Doesnt do any favours for small indie shops (like mine) that have always heavily supported BN since the start of the Tone Poet & Classic series started.
Folks, with the economy, be glad that Tone Poet are not having to make the entire thing a subscription based product. Seems fair to me, different options for all. Very excited about this list! I think its stellar. Thanks for the update guys🎺✌🏻
They have announced a balanced and interesting list, showing exactly what the series is about. Curation, discovery. People can choose either subscribing or buying individuals, so plenty of options. Let's see how distribution will happen. Thanks for watching! F
I signed up immediately. As Felipe said. No worries about Blue Note for the next year. The exclusives are nice but as you have shown, there are other copies available. It's not the end of the world. It may even reduce my conspicuous consumption knowing that I have locked in new tunes on a monthly basis. At least, I can hope.
For me, the Pepper, Edwards, Moncure, Chaloff, Jordan and Byrd album releases may be worth considering though, at least two or three of them depending on the reviews.
A nice presentation of the concept and the releases - well done, Bums 👍 Also nice to see just the 3 of you together 🙂 Living in Denmark/Europa, I'll wait and see what the conditions will be for non-US-buyers (shipping, VAT). And I'm very happy to see that Blue Note hasn't gone "Let's-put-everything-out-on-45-rmp"-crazy with this series but respects the original format. My favorite picks would be • Art Pepper, • Curtis Amy & Frank Butler • and probably Dexter Gordon (must have recorded this just before he moved to Denmark). (got the Horace Silver and Duke Jordan in great soundings Japanese versions already - the would candidate if not). See you - Claus
The Horace Parlan albums witht the Turrentine brothers are amazing. Stanley is definitely underrated. The sessions that I was really hoping we're coming out although probably more likely to be a classic series or the up at Minton's sessions with Grant Green
I wait until their parents company has their quarterly sales and yearly monster sale - with free shipping - 20% to 30% off. Way provide your money up front - poor financial management.
I don't understand why Felipe is so flippant about the subscription thing. What about international buyers? They can't go out and buy those exclusive (to Tier subscribers) releases.
Have the Parker & Turrentine LTs and both are great music. For me - Sunset Eyes, Blue Serge and Flight to Jordan, honorable mention is Half Note Vol 2 solely cause only have Vol 1 bugs the heck out of me.
Chris, that Art Pepper is a promo white label, hence the generic label. Maybe you know but didn't say in video. I have the same copy, and it sounds very good.
That white Japanese blue note label looks like a promo label. There’s likely a non-promo release at the same time just after a more typical blue label.
I don't view the subscription-based model as a sign that vinyl is losing momentum. Tiered subscription models reflect the current trends and their effectiveness. To me, it signals that vinyl distributors are staying attuned to the market and making efforts to adapt, which is a positive thing The certainty of knowing exactly what you're getting (aside from the quarterly exclusives) is a significant advantage. It's also reassuring that consumers retain the option to purchase only the titles that truly interest them. While memberships may pose challenges for brick-and-mortar stores, I hope their impact remains minimal, allowing the mom-and-pop supply chain to continue thriving with a steady flow of products and buyers. There are some great titles on this list! I won't be subscribing, but I will pick up a handful of these titles for the collection.
Agreed, the doom and gloom of vinyl sales plummeting seems premature. I guess everyone expected it to keep growing exponentially like it did during the pandemic or something. While I agree that it sucks for fans outside of the US, I think it is a pretty well thought out subscription service. - Chris
Getting 50 year old records 2 weeks early? I’m sure I can wait another 2 weeks and just save money and get the titles I want which is significantly less this year 👌🏻
Can't wait to see all the hate videos about this! Like when people sign up to get the exclusives - and then they come out with non numbered editions (to sell to Europe) that can be bought at amazon for $25. I can hear the angry vinyl collectors now! I should make a video bitching about it - it would probably get 20K views!.....🤔
Only a matter of time until they figured out how to go direct to consumer .. I am just going to pick and choose , I don’t need them all and Amazon has free shipping anyway
really interested in: Blues in trinity Up & down Jacknife Flight to Jordan And the Teddy Edwards I mean if i could I'd buy them all but my budget is limited
Strange they are doing a hybrid of the struggling VMP. However a big kick in the teeth for the very many UK, European and Other Iinternational loyal customers .
An insult to loads of people overseas that have supported BN. From customers to shops. Based in UK, the BN store is terrible. Never get any discounts. And this is just another brush off. Great 2025 list though 😅
Tone Poet Society is all fine and dandy (discount, early shipping, merch, autographs, phone calls) OTHER than the quarterly release lockout. That rubs me the wrong way. I'm a huge fan and supporter of the series (and have spent a ton of money on them the past few years), but simply can't afford to buy every title. I have to be selective with my finances which I'm sure many of you are in the same boat. Hopefully the quarterly exclusives are fairly obscure titles and they don't lock highly desirable titles behind the paywall which would just be a bit of a screwing to a majority of the fans.
As always, there are some really cool titles coming up. But I'm definitely not a fan of the exclusive subscriber titles. Like - I guess - most other people I do not have the space, money, interest and listeningtime to buy every single record of this series. I always have and will continue to buy just the titles I'm really interested in. Walter Davis jr. would be one of the titles of interest for me. But now I will not be able to get it. Let alone, I live in Europe...
Interesting! I guess it’s not relevant for TP fans outside America. Maybe Europe is no longer important enough:-) Still it’s a smart business model to plan forward and secure ongoing purchases in the declining vinyl lp market. I will continue to buy only their releases I am excited about with my excitement getting smaller since some time. Is it maybe the swan song of the series? Still, they did an amazing service to us jazz fans which we should be grateful for. Time for reinventing themselves?
Nice survey fellas...deep bow! Fun fact: Sheila Jordan and Duke Jordan were married between 1952-1962.
Membership model is another sign things are on the way down for vinyl.
That means more for me, for now time to find more space.
What are the other signs?
@@JazzBums💯 Seems the vinyl industry is fine .
I think the last thing I subscribed to was a Snowboarding magazine in 1991. lol
Doesnt do any favours for small indie shops (like mine) that have always heavily supported BN since the start of the Tone Poet & Classic series started.
They just did record stores a favor by releasing the classic series as the 85th anniversary
You have the exclusive 2024 B&M/Retail BN85 series, correct? AAA, blue vinyl, and many TOP 25 BN titles (IMO).
@@dustinshaver3173LOL, I just commented the same before I read your reply.
Agree. They knew that silly Blue thing wouldn’t sell well.
Folks, with the economy, be glad that Tone Poet are not having to make the entire thing a subscription based product. Seems fair to me, different options for all.
Very excited about this list! I think its stellar.
Thanks for the update guys🎺✌🏻
They have announced a balanced and interesting list, showing exactly what the series is about. Curation, discovery. People can choose either subscribing or buying individuals, so plenty of options. Let's see how distribution will happen. Thanks for watching! F
Why would the economy force them to make their obviously successful series only be subscription only? - Chris
I signed up immediately. As Felipe said. No worries about Blue Note for the next year. The exclusives are nice but as you have shown, there are other copies available. It's not the end of the world. It may even reduce my conspicuous consumption knowing that I have locked in new tunes on a monthly basis. At least, I can hope.
First…been waiting for this one
Exclusivity runs counter to the ethos of Tone Poet imo, but if it keeps the series going I’m for it.
For me, the Pepper, Edwards, Moncure, Chaloff, Jordan and Byrd album releases may be worth considering though, at least two or three of them depending on the reviews.
The Stanley Turrentine is a great record. Don't sleep on that one!
A nice presentation of the concept and the releases - well done, Bums 👍
Also nice to see just the 3 of you together 🙂
Living in Denmark/Europa, I'll wait and see what the conditions will be for non-US-buyers (shipping, VAT).
And I'm very happy to see that Blue Note hasn't gone "Let's-put-everything-out-on-45-rmp"-crazy with this series but respects the original format.
My favorite picks would be
• Art Pepper,
• Curtis Amy & Frank Butler
• and probably Dexter Gordon (must have recorded this just before he moved to Denmark).
(got the Horace Silver and Duke Jordan in great soundings Japanese versions already - the would candidate if not).
See you - Claus
Thanks for watching Claus!
The Horace Parlan albums witht the Turrentine brothers are amazing. Stanley is definitely underrated. The sessions that I was really hoping we're coming out although probably more likely to be a classic series or the up at Minton's sessions with Grant Green
I wait until their parents company has their quarterly sales and yearly monster sale - with free shipping - 20% to 30% off. Way provide your money up front - poor financial management.
The Jazz Crusaders were from Houston Texas hence the state on the cover.
Ah that makes sense, did not know that. Thanks! - Chris
Top 3: Andrew!!!, Some Other Stuff, and Blues in Trinity
I don't understand why Felipe is so flippant about the subscription thing. What about international buyers? They can't go out and buy those exclusive (to Tier subscribers) releases.
Going international presents a challenging logistics, but they are working on it and new should be announced soon. Thanks for watching. F
it could be ok if they keep the free international shipping. or Blue note could make amazon their international distributer
Have the Parker & Turrentine LTs and both are great music. For me - Sunset Eyes, Blue Serge and Flight to Jordan, honorable mention is Half Note Vol 2 solely cause only have Vol 1 bugs the heck out of me.
Insane line-up, especially Montara. I’ve purchased almost every Tone Poet so far so I’ll go Tier 1.
Chris, that Art Pepper is a promo white label, hence the generic label. Maybe you know but didn't say in video. I have the same copy, and it sounds very good.
Thanks for the info! That makes sense.
If you are doing any tier other than highest tier you should be able to choose what tone poets you want.
That white Japanese blue note label looks like a promo label. There’s likely a non-promo release at the same time just after a more typical blue label.
For me: Parlan, Pepper, Chaloff, Silver, Hamilton
which Challof Blue Serge on Capitol??
I don't view the subscription-based model as a sign that vinyl is losing momentum. Tiered subscription models reflect the current trends and their effectiveness. To me, it signals that vinyl distributors are staying attuned to the market and making efforts to adapt, which is a positive thing
The certainty of knowing exactly what you're getting (aside from the quarterly exclusives) is a significant advantage. It's also reassuring that consumers retain the option to purchase only the titles that truly interest them.
While memberships may pose challenges for brick-and-mortar stores, I hope their impact remains minimal, allowing the mom-and-pop supply chain to continue thriving with a steady flow of products and buyers.
There are some great titles on this list! I won't be subscribing, but I will pick up a handful of these titles for the collection.
Agreed, the doom and gloom of vinyl sales plummeting seems premature. I guess everyone expected it to keep growing exponentially like it did during the pandemic or something. While I agree that it sucks for fans outside of the US, I think it is a pretty well thought out subscription service. - Chris
Getting 50 year old records 2 weeks early? I’m sure I can wait another 2 weeks and just save money and get the titles I want which is significantly less this year 👌🏻
Not a fan of the subscription service idea. But the list of releases is as exciting as ever!
The Walter Davis is $38.98 with free shipping. Releases 12/10.
Can't wait to see all the hate videos about this! Like when people sign up to get the exclusives - and then they come out with non numbered editions (to sell to Europe) that can be bought at amazon for $25. I can hear the angry vinyl collectors now! I should make a video bitching about it - it would probably get 20K views!.....🤔
Grachan Moncur for sure!
Only a matter of time until they figured out how to go direct to consumer .. I am just going to pick and choose , I don’t need them all and Amazon has free shipping anyway
Tier 1 makes sense for my buying habits.
I can’t imagine a worse premium than a phone call from anybody.
really interested in:
Blues in trinity
Up & down
Jacknife
Flight to Jordan
And the Teddy Edwards
I mean if i could I'd buy them all but my budget is limited
Strange they are doing a hybrid of the struggling VMP. However a big kick in the teeth for the very many UK, European and Other Iinternational loyal customers .
An insult to loads of people overseas that have supported BN. From customers to shops.
Based in UK, the BN store is terrible. Never get any discounts. And this is just another brush off.
Great 2025 list though 😅
Tone Poet Society is all fine and dandy (discount, early shipping, merch, autographs, phone calls) OTHER than the quarterly release lockout. That rubs me the wrong way. I'm a huge fan and supporter of the series (and have spent a ton of money on them the past few years), but simply can't afford to buy every title. I have to be selective with my finances which I'm sure many of you are in the same boat. Hopefully the quarterly exclusives are fairly obscure titles and they don't lock highly desirable titles behind the paywall which would just be a bit of a screwing to a majority of the fans.
Same dude. SAME
I will do the Tier 1 since I get 99% of them in the past.
As always, there are some really cool titles coming up.
But I'm definitely not a fan of the exclusive subscriber titles. Like - I guess - most other people I do not have the space, money, interest and listeningtime to buy every single record of this series. I always have and will continue to buy just the titles I'm really interested in.
Walter Davis jr. would be one of the titles of interest for me. But now I will not be able to get it. Let alone, I live in Europe...
Interesting! I guess it’s not relevant for TP fans outside America. Maybe Europe is no longer important enough:-)
Still it’s a smart business model to plan forward and secure ongoing purchases in the declining vinyl lp market.
I will continue to buy only their releases I am excited about with my excitement getting smaller since some time.
Is it maybe the swan song of the series?
Still, they did an amazing service to us jazz fans which we should be grateful for.
Time for reinventing themselves?
International subscription will be added. Thanks for watching! F