Build more mangroove trees around the coast instead of hotels. Mangroove trees will filter the salt out and keep the sea level at bay. You wont need to build any machine plants or spend any electricity with this. It will be carbon negative as well
Fixing leaks. What a concept! That is the best solution I have ever heard of! As a Canadian, I would add adapting to your environment too. Particularly in western Canada/USA so many people have moved there from the east coast or Europe where it is much more wet and they consume water like they used to. Moving and traveling is fine but please adapt to your new environment. If your front yard is a sand dune, don't water it till your lawn grows while your river dries up!
I think the water lost through leaks would eventually make it back into the local water cycle, so it might not be as bad as it may seem. Definitely worth fixing however!
lol where in the area of western canaidia and usa is there a water shortage? in the area where these two meet there are plentiful snowcaps/pack and mountain lakes. bc and the pnw are fine einstein
I reported a water leak beside our road - still isn't fixed, over one year later. Fog nets are effective, as I've seen when using fine gauge nets to protect my own fruit crops. But when the plastic net starts to break down, going to have microplastics blowing everywhere (nets lasting 1-3 years depending on the amount of sunshine). So, they might be just a bit too expensive for some communities to keep replacing. Maybe researchers need to start having something a bit more environmentally friendly? A fibrous plant these communities can grow, process, and then weave into the fine gauge nets themselves.
My issue with “unconventional sources” like this is that all that new fresh water goes right into our already horrible system of usage. Maybe we will need crazy ideas like this eventually, but first we should do the much less crazy stuff like start recycling almost 100% of our water, and become ok with using nonpotable water for things such as watering crops. There’s also huge gains we can make immediately in agriculture by switching to “conservation agriculture” and cutting down on the ridiculous amount of beef that we eat which in turn will cut down on water used to grow feed crops. I’d like to see us make more progress on those initiatives before we start trying outlandish stuff like what you describe in this video.
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When I found out about the problems with cattle+water+Methane I was literally like ~"is humanity on crack" we could hardly farm a worse creature unless it was a field of gigantic spiders that only spoke in Tucker Carlson gibberish.
Removing icebergs may further effect the Atlantic/oceans circulating systems. The cold water may just melt in the ocean, but that's not wasting it as it has more than one use beyond our use.
I was thinking the same thing. All the ecosystems on this planet are often fine-tuned beyond our comprehension. Breaking one link in the system may trigger a whole series of events that we may not have even accounted for at all.
Fascinating & very worrying. In the UK the policy of the water companies is "If the cost of repair is more than the value of the water lost, do not repair"! which is absolutely ridiculous & shameful.
I mean, that makes sense. Auto aligning solar installations have the same concept. Each adjustment wastes power. So if you adjust for every little cloud or shade, it'd just be inefficient. Though over time, the leaks could eventually cost them more.
Morroco has been using humidity harvesting (called fog farming) for some time. It does not affect rainfall. Makes a difference for Morrocans that use it. Only a small number use it however it shows potential. 88% of water use in Morroco is for agriculture. Drought affects them as they occupy the edge of the Sahara desert.
I'm shocked to see a whole segment on iceberg transport without a single mention of how this would affect the environment. I would guess that these icebergs floating close to the poles contribute to maintaining both the temperature and the salinity level of the water at the level required to sustain the (quite enormous, in case you missed it) ecosystem of the regions. Even supposing our greed will be contained in simply harvesting those rogue icebergs and not, say, to chopping off parts of the permafrost for a quick freshwater fix (what could possibly go wrong there, I wonder?), the implications for the biodiversity of the region and, by extension, the planet seem pretty huge for you to gloss over like you did just now.
Hey there! 🌈Every year, 100 000 icebergs break up in Antarctica. Experts from the video confirm that taking around 1-10 icebergs has no real impact on water salinity and should not harm the environment. In fact, global warming is causing ice to melt in huge quantities where it should not melt in the first place. Currently, there are too many melting icebergs. The idea is rather to lead them to melt somewhere where it would be beneficial.
great idea, after harvesting everything that grows, mining everything that’s in the ground and dumping waste on land in the water and the air, we start collecting polar ice as if the ice sheets would not melt fast enough already.
Thank you for commenting. 🍀 Focusing on overconsumption and the excessive use of water as well as good water management are the first things. The solution to ice harvesting suggests that ice already fractured in the Arctic could be harnessed and entire icebergs could be hauled from the Antarctic Ocean. However, icebergs are an important part of the flora and fauna of both polar regions, no denial.
@@DWPlanetA "Iceburgs are an important part of the Flora And Fauna." That's the most Ignorant and Retarded statement I've heard in quite a while. Go ahead and explain what that's supposed to mean exactly..
Water harvesting using fog now that's a good idea, even for places that receive a lot of water. In the Philippines in the mountain area, I see water trucks delivering water to homes and businesses at the tops of mountains. I wonder if those activities could be replaced with those harvested instead?
Hey there! Yes, scientists investigated the potential of fog harvesting in the mountain area of Atok, Benguet, Philippines. They conclude that it is feasible. If you want to check out the details of this study, you can find it here 👉 www.researchgate.net/publication/336044998_The_potential_of_fog_harvesting_in_tropical_highlands_as_an_alternative_water_resource_the_case_of_Atok_Benguet_Philippines
I've heard of how wide spread leaking pipe infrastructure is. I had no idea such a solution to identify these leaks existed. That is amazing. From the sounds of the locations that are impacted the most, this isn't going to solve a water crisis in areas in the most need. But with the direction climate is going, getting started on fixing these problems could prevent a future water crisis in the areas impacted.
Where would the water from the iceberg go after it has been used? To the ocean? So it's a way to speed up melting of the ice and raise the water level?
@@AchiraDasgupta No more than 65% of wastewater can be recycled according to the University of Arizona's Water Resources Research Center. So they idea is crazy. It would only speed up the rise of the sea level.
I'm sort of not into idea of melting even more of icebergs. But leaks detection, desalination or catching air humidity seems better solution then changing and draining rivers and lakes.
Another good video. Best fog harvesting apparatus is organic. It's called a tree, the bonus is in a pristine forest, trees requestor CO2 and provide complex ecology supporting orders of magnitude of life giving diversity. Sad thing, about any old growth forest, once of its stripped, of its natural diversity it takes up to 10,000 years to regain its full ability to sequester CO2.
I put a 55 gallon barrel on the downspout of my rain gutter. First day we didn't even get rain, we got mist. That drum was filled. I used that water for watering my plants and the lawn, washing the car with just water and cleaning off garden tools. I could see that water being used for washing the laundry, toilets and maybe with some treatment showering. In the mid-atlantic states of north America there was plenty of rain to reduce the amount of treated water from the municipality.
Actually I should apologize for my earlier comment. The iceberg thing was so ludicrous that I found it hard to listen to the rest of the video haha. In reality, the nets and leaks make a lot of sense and we definitely need to go forward with them. I still stand by that we have major usage issues which need addressed at the same time though!
Agriculture and our consumption habits are the worst. We cut down forests to grow produce that empties the water sources only to throw half the food away 🤦♂️
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I don’t think having gallons of freshwater columns dragged over the top of saltwater is a very good idea. Might kill off the oceans especially since we know how much a tiny change in ph can alter habitats.
I wonder why the second most efficient method (water recycling) was not talked about more than that it's cheaper to fix pipes in the USA than water recycling. In the context it was mentioned it also appears it's usually The cheapest solution.
Such an interesting video! This is the first time hearing about monitoring leaks from space, I wonder what other technologies could help with leaky pipes
My worry with the fog nets is that, if these would be up-scaled to an almost industrial amount, the mist and clouds would be heavily diminished after passing through the heavily populated coastal regions, hampering both the rainfall and humidity levels crucial to all life in the more arid hinterland.
Hey. 🌱 Your concern seems to be very valid. Although, fog harvesting is typically done on a smaller scale in remote areas, away from heavily populated coastal regions. The communities that could benefit from this technique the most are also located in those areas.
There are plenty of places where water is over abundant, so why don’t we find an environmentally friendly way to bring that water to places where water is scarce? We could probably do so without wiping out our already depleting glaciers. The oceans are a great source of water. We can use the salts from the oceans to make batteries, and use the water for communities that lack freshwater. Let’s discuss how water can be transported without relying on pipelines to transport water across large distances. If we concentrate light onto the water where it is over abundant then it can heat up the water to evaporation temperatures. The water will likely form clouds that can travel hundreds or thousands of miles before releasing the water again in the form of rain. This would also help cool the earth by reflecting more radiation from the sun back into space. If we were to pump the water into troughs to utilize the afore mentioned process then we would avoid killing as much aquatic life in the process and have a means of collecting salts for batteries and for food consumption.
But what I don't understand is. If we take this water or humidity from one place, won't it start lacking? Even in North Pole surely the icebergs are also important aside from local fauna. Leaky pipes also end up dropping water somewhere, even if humans don't end up drinking it? Isn't the main problem that we just use too much?
Hey Bart. As for icebergs - they are definitely part of the fauna of the polar regions and provide living conditions for different species. 🐻❄️ Overconsumption, heating planet and also bad water management are the issues we need to tackle - we need to find ways to over all _use less_ .
The iceberg idea would eradicate polar bears in no time. NO NO No NO NO! But I love the humidity idea. I live in a humid climate and I need to use a dehumidifiers and it collects 16 l. in a day or two from a closed room. Absolutely brilliant. Imagine how much a much bigger machine could collect in an open area.
Maybe using thirsty concrete to reduce flooding and sand mining reducing river erosion. Maybe planting native plants shrubs and trees Maybe cactus and other succulents in dry hot places to reduce flooding heat wind erosion and reduce noise air and ground pollution.
Please don't use those bell sound effects. It's extremely loud in comparison to the rest of the video (very noticeable when listening through phone speakers). You can also adjust the volume of the effect if you want to use it.
The better solution is to use the sun's heat to produce water vapor or even steam (which could be used to generate electricity) and then condense the vapor back to distilled water. The condensation can be done by freezing seawater in large flat underground facilities taking the layer of ice that first forms on top of the seawater which is largely salt free and moving it to V shaped tanks where as they melt the vapor from the sun heated seawater condenses on the outside of the tanks. The water harvesting on the outside of the tanks can be sped up with windshield wiper like things that scrape the pure condensed water off the outside of the V tanks and as the ice melts it fills the V tanks with cold pure mostly desalinated water. That water can then overflow and be mixed with the condensed water. This can all be powered by photovoltaic solar panels to run the heat pumps to freeze the water and solar water heaters to boil the seawater. You can keep boiling the seawater and brine until all you are left with is nearly dry salt. You can move this salt to existing salt flats that have been deteriorating because of climate change.
Water desalination seems the more obvious choice here. Make salt water into clean drinkable water. To do that on massive scale you need energy, alot of it. So, right now it seems (to me) more logical to solve the energy problem first. In the meantime, you can import drinking water from other countries etc. Catching water from the air is also already done in certain places, and it seems to work. Nothing that awesome on a grand scale, but it works in smaller scale.
Yeah, all you have to do, is get an iceberg, tow it to a dry dock, pump out the old water, let the iceberg melt and look, fresh water! Simple and SOOO easy! LOL An easier way is just to turn every faucet half close. When most people wash their hands, most off the water splashes off the hands and goes down the drain! Turning the water down, allows more of the water to actually go over your hands. I suggested this back in Iraq in 2018 and my supervisors asked if I was an water engineer? Some people are just have too stupidity. I calculated we would save over 30,000 gallons per months if we did that.
sprain water into the air in frontal Coast areas can transfer 30% or more water to the air,salt will drop back to the Ocean and wind will transport the humid colder Air inland, using retire wind mill or solar .
We can capture water, regenerate aquifers with proper vegetation and removing asphalt. Most of the water waste is for agriculture, for beef feed (grass is much better for the environment), and making high fructose corn syrup. Ponds can be part of the solution. Here's an example: ruclips.net/video/43bmtqKDhBE/видео.html
With regard to the fog harvesting, isn't this just messing with the water cycle? The fog would eventually come down as rain anyway. I can see the benefit though if there's no need for water processing plants using this method.
I did listen to the rest, and water access is well addressed, as DW always does. Thank you. Pluvicopia addresses availability. We can flood any area of the planet with the natural water cycle; the book Pluvicopia shows the details of how.
How would you tow an iceberg mountain, considering that they flip when sufficiently much of the bottom or top melt? A mountain of 125 million tonnes would drag absolutely everything imaginable under with it during an accident, not to mentionthe tidal wave that could be caused if it flipped close to a habour or something. Another solution that would help is changing how we farm crops, we waste absolutely massive amounts of water with inefficient farming.
Plus, if Saudi Arabia and the UAE want to bring them down from the Arctic to the Arabic region - they will be crossing the Gulf Stream, which will warm it and melt it faster (especially now the sea is warmer than back in the 1970's). Also, what about the Polar Bears and the seals? They need all that ice for their cruising, fishing, pup nurseries, etc. I'm sure they're not going to appreciate ships chugging all the way up there and towing their ice away. If the Arabic regions should be getting ice from anywhere, it should be from Thwaites Glacier, since bits keep breaking off of it. I'm sure the country that owns the area won't mind selling them chunks of it. But as you say, icebergs roll. Towing ships are at risk. The safer way would be to attach a couple of remote controlled engines with boat propellers to the back and turn the berg into an unmanned ship.
@@debbiehenri345 As much as I would like for the UAE to care about polar bears and seals, I highly doubt they'd actually prioritise them if it came down to it. I find it way more likely to be honest, that someone puts a factory in the arctic that harvests ice in small units, and uses regular container ships to transport them, or just makes an insulated pipe to transport it as water. Even with that said though, I don't consider either of them to be truly likely, doing so is most likely significantly harder than to make a more efficient process for desalinating sea water, and sea water is right next to them.
it's odd to me that there was no mention of desalination.... that said, if we don't fix the underling issues of how we as a species waste our fresh water, it wouldn't matter if every continent was ringed with desalination plants.
Reverse osmosis desalination is a very costly way to produce fresh water from seawater, plus it comes with a variety of problems such as what to do with the filters that need replacing often, these systems need lots of energy (typically electric) to create the high pressure to get the seawater through the filters and the problem of the large amount of high salinic water or brine produced by the process that is an environmental hazard often just dumped back into the sea. The better solution is to use the sun's heat to produce water vapor or even steam (which could be used to generate electricity) and then condense the vapor back to distilled water. The condensation can be done by freezing seawater in large flat underground facilities taking the layer of ice that first forms on top of the seawater which is largely salt free and moving it to V shaped tanks where as they melt the vapor from the sun heated seawater condenses on the outside of the tanks. The water harvesting on the outside of the tanks can be sped up with windshield wiper like things that scrape the pure condensed water off the outside of the V tanks and as the ice melts it fills the V tanks with cold pure mostly desalinated water. That water can then overflow and be mixed with the condensed water. This can all be powered by photovoltaic solar panels to run the heat pumps to freeze the water and solar water heaters to boil the seawater. You can keep boiling the seawater and brine until all you are left with is nearly dry salt. You can move this salt to existing salt flats that have been deteriorating because of climate change.
Bad idea, imho. All living things have a homeostasis that is necessary to sustaining those things living. Sea water has an optimal pH that is regulated and maintained by melting arctic ice. The rapid rising trend of man-made desalination plants around the world are causing a shift in pH towards the acidic range thus triggering increased deglaciation. I know how important it is to have fresh drinking water, but don’t have to torture or kill our living planet for a drink, or for a car wash, or for laundry, etc. The safe method of desalinating ocean water is to store the brine by-product i(currently being dumped back into sea) n shallow pools and allow to evaporate under the sun. The resulting precipitate is potash, a powerful fertilizer for plants, or with additional processing, can be utilized for battery manufacturing. We can still save our living planet, if we all pulled together as one consciousness, one tribe of humanity!
What you do, it drill a large ⛵ ⛵ and sail it to the coast where you need it, then chop it up and sell it to independent shippers who ship it to their destination.
Kalimera/Good morning from Nea Peramos of Attica in Greece, an area that has gotten so arid that we call it affectionately 'our little Sahara'.. The iceberg idea seems naive. If we were to exploit arctic/antarctic water, the tankers would mmor on the ice float, carve pieces of ice and fll their tanks. N waste & much less energy needed for transportation. The mesh idea is better but only for areas that are away from the cities,otherwise it soaks in a large amount of atmospheric pollution, too. Solar-powered desalination of seawater is the future for me after we solve the problem of what to do with the excess salt (more efficient sodium batteries maybe?).
fog harvest should divert a %to planning tres that when they grow will became harvester themselves, coffee plants benefits from this big plants that caches water and can go months without rain, that's how river keep running all year without snow melting.
I see two major ways to help fix water issues beyond these ideas rebuilding borders to account for watersheds and making water based packs on water use if that is not an option the USA refitting their internal state borders would solve most there issues concerning water
It will just act as a natural population deterrent. Despite the world's water problems there is still plenty of places with more water than they know what to do with... It's just that those places aren't the mega cities everyone knows.
@@DWPlanetA : Thanks. I've re-watched that video, and it doesnt seem to mention anything about freeze desalination, which is a new thing being worked on by scientists, and incidentally the south and north poles have been doing this for millenia without humans. It's a promising new technology, as it takes much less energy.
Hey there! Yes, that is an issue. There are several studies that show that bacteria is stored in the ice and is released into the environment when melting occurs. This is one of them if you want to find out more detailsroyalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rspb.2022.1073
Let's really start thinking of the concept of moving icebergs to the desert areas ?.. I am sure that the money will be there just like the money was and is there when the construction(s) started for all those tall buildings. And now there is the problem of water for those inhabitants. Israel, in this case, is a great example of smart use of getting drinkable water. When people settled in the drier ares, they started changing that desert into a livable area. Desalination of seawater etc...
Do you know of more ideas to fight the water crisis?
Recycle and desalination
Climate change makes Arctic regions calm enough to live.
Exodus and refugee support are the only answer, I think
Desalination, veganism, minimalism.
Stop procreating 🤰🤱
Build more mangroove trees around the coast instead of hotels. Mangroove trees will filter the salt out and keep the sea level at bay. You wont need to build any machine plants or spend any electricity with this. It will be carbon negative as well
Fixing leaks. What a concept! That is the best solution I have ever heard of!
As a Canadian, I would add adapting to your environment too. Particularly in western Canada/USA so many people have moved there from the east coast or Europe where it is much more wet and they consume water like they used to. Moving and traveling is fine but please adapt to your new environment. If your front yard is a sand dune, don't water it till your lawn grows while your river dries up!
I think the water lost through leaks would eventually make it back into the local water cycle, so it might not be as bad as it may seem. Definitely worth fixing however!
lol where in the area of western canaidia and usa is there a water shortage? in the area where these two meet there are plentiful snowcaps/pack and mountain lakes. bc and the pnw are fine einstein
Yes.. so obvious. 👍
@@byloyuripka9624 Drum Heller
I live in Canada and can see Lake Superior out of my window while it is pouring rain outside.
I reported a water leak beside our road - still isn't fixed, over one year later.
Fog nets are effective, as I've seen when using fine gauge nets to protect my own fruit crops. But when the plastic net starts to break down, going to have microplastics blowing everywhere (nets lasting 1-3 years depending on the amount of sunshine).
So, they might be just a bit too expensive for some communities to keep replacing.
Maybe researchers need to start having something a bit more environmentally friendly? A fibrous plant these communities can grow, process, and then weave into the fine gauge nets themselves.
Hemp?
My issue with “unconventional sources” like this is that all that new fresh water goes right into our already horrible system of usage.
Maybe we will need crazy ideas like this eventually, but first we should do the much less crazy stuff like start recycling almost 100% of our water, and become ok with using nonpotable water for things such as watering crops.
There’s also huge gains we can make immediately in agriculture by switching to “conservation agriculture” and cutting down on the ridiculous amount of beef that we eat which in turn will cut down on water used to grow feed crops.
I’d like to see us make more progress on those initiatives before we start trying outlandish stuff like what you describe in this video.
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When I found out about the problems with cattle+water+Methane I was literally like ~"is humanity on crack" we could hardly farm a worse creature unless it was a field of gigantic spiders that only spoke in Tucker Carlson gibberish.
This is madness, we need all ice in ocean to help reflect extra sunlight to cool the planet. We need the Albedo effect.
Fresh water availability more important than ice albedo effect
Removing icebergs may further effect the Atlantic/oceans circulating systems. The cold water may just melt in the ocean, but that's not wasting it as it has more than one use beyond our use.
I've seen the nets before. Love them!
Yea...the Whales.. 🐋 😢
I was thinking the same thing. All the ecosystems on this planet are often fine-tuned beyond our comprehension. Breaking one link in the system may trigger a whole series of events that we may not have even accounted for at all.
Fascinating & very worrying.
In the UK the policy of the water companies is "If the cost of repair is more than the value of the water lost, do not repair"! which is absolutely ridiculous & shameful.
I mean, that makes sense. Auto aligning solar installations have the same concept. Each adjustment wastes power. So if you adjust for every little cloud or shade, it'd just be inefficient.
Though over time, the leaks could eventually cost them more.
There should be a fee for the water companies that they have to pay extra for all the water which is wasted before it arrives to the households
Humidity harvesting is such a great idea
Oh hell nah
But on a mass scale it would reduce rainfall.... I guess...
@@ascra1693 I didn't know that. Thank you
Couldn't you just catch rain?
Morroco has been using humidity harvesting (called fog farming) for some time. It does not affect rainfall. Makes a difference for Morrocans that use it. Only a small number use it however it shows potential. 88% of water use in Morroco is for agriculture. Drought affects them as they occupy the edge of the Sahara desert.
Do you guys not know that iceberg’s are wider below the surface of the water?
Leaks! Wow! I mean the iceberg but is absurd but the leaks. Wild.
I'm shocked to see a whole segment on iceberg transport without a single mention of how this would affect the environment. I would guess that these icebergs floating close to the poles contribute to maintaining both the temperature and the salinity level of the water at the level required to sustain the (quite enormous, in case you missed it) ecosystem of the regions. Even supposing our greed will be contained in simply harvesting those rogue icebergs and not, say, to chopping off parts of the permafrost for a quick freshwater fix (what could possibly go wrong there, I wonder?), the implications for the biodiversity of the region and, by extension, the planet seem pretty huge for you to gloss over like you did just now.
You are a clueless fool.😂
Yes !
Hey there! 🌈Every year, 100 000 icebergs break up in Antarctica. Experts from the video confirm that taking around 1-10 icebergs has no real impact on water salinity and should not harm the environment. In fact, global warming is causing ice to melt in huge quantities where it should not melt in the first place. Currently, there are too many melting icebergs. The idea is rather to lead them to melt somewhere where it would be beneficial.
@@DWPlanetA "100 000 icebergs break up in Antarctica" averages 22 million tonnes per iceberg then.
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great idea, after harvesting everything that grows, mining everything that’s in the ground and dumping waste on land in the water and the air, we start collecting polar ice as if the ice sheets would not melt fast enough already.
My though aswell, we are so fixated on finding quick fixes of the symptoms instead of actually dealing with the real problem.
Thank you for commenting. 🍀 Focusing on overconsumption and the excessive use of water as well as good water management are the first things. The solution to ice harvesting suggests that ice already fractured in the Arctic could be harnessed and entire icebergs could be hauled from the Antarctic Ocean. However, icebergs are an important part of the flora and fauna of both polar regions, no denial.
@@DWPlanetA "Iceburgs are an important part of the Flora And Fauna."
That's the most Ignorant and Retarded statement I've heard in quite a while.
Go ahead and explain what that's supposed to mean exactly..
Water harvesting using fog now that's a good idea, even for places that receive a lot of water. In the Philippines in the mountain area, I see water trucks delivering water to homes and businesses at the tops of mountains. I wonder if those activities could be replaced with those harvested instead?
Hey there! Yes, scientists investigated the potential of fog harvesting in the mountain area of Atok, Benguet, Philippines. They conclude that it is feasible. If you want to check out the details of this study, you can find it here 👉 www.researchgate.net/publication/336044998_The_potential_of_fog_harvesting_in_tropical_highlands_as_an_alternative_water_resource_the_case_of_Atok_Benguet_Philippines
I've heard of how wide spread leaking pipe infrastructure is. I had no idea such a solution to identify these leaks existed. That is amazing. From the sounds of the locations that are impacted the most, this isn't going to solve a water crisis in areas in the most need. But with the direction climate is going, getting started on fixing these problems could prevent a future water crisis in the areas impacted.
Where would the water from the iceberg go after it has been used? To the ocean? So it's a way to speed up melting of the ice and raise the water level?
We could drink it to live, animals could drink it, we could grow crops and most of the wastewater in the city is recycled.
@@AchiraDasgupta No more than 65% of wastewater can be recycled according to the University of Arizona's Water Resources Research Center. So they idea is crazy. It would only speed up the rise of the sea level.
4:40 "These are all the problems apart from [all the other problems]"
I'm sort of not into idea of melting even more of icebergs. But leaks detection, desalination or catching air humidity seems better solution then changing and draining rivers and lakes.
Another good video.
Best fog harvesting apparatus is organic. It's called a tree, the bonus is in a pristine forest, trees requestor CO2 and provide complex ecology supporting orders of magnitude of life giving diversity. Sad thing, about any old growth forest, once of its stripped, of its natural diversity it takes up to 10,000 years to regain its full ability to sequester CO2.
I put a 55 gallon barrel on the downspout of my rain gutter. First day we didn't even get rain, we got mist. That drum was filled. I used that water for watering my plants and the lawn, washing the car with just water and cleaning off garden tools. I could see that water being used for washing the laundry, toilets and maybe with some treatment showering. In the mid-atlantic states of north America there was plenty of rain to reduce the amount of treated water from the municipality.
This is very interesting and and very important. Great job, guys!
Extremely short sighted approach to tackle climate crisis😮
Actually I should apologize for my earlier comment. The iceberg thing was so ludicrous that I found it hard to listen to the rest of the video haha.
In reality, the nets and leaks make a lot of sense and we definitely need to go forward with them.
I still stand by that we have major usage issues which need addressed at the same time though!
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It worked in Brewster's Millions. 😂
Viva DW Planet A!
Really love documentaries like these
Agriculture and our consumption habits are the worst. We cut down forests to grow produce that empties the water sources only to throw half the food away 🤦♂️
Great job, Tim and Planet A. Love all your work Planet A - oh, and Planet A, you should use Tim as the narrator of all your stuff! He's got a great, whimsical German-accented English. It keeps you listening/watching. Signed, a European-American for almost 20 years (from Chicago - you can guess my European roots...) MTG
I don’t think having gallons of freshwater columns dragged over the top of saltwater is a very good idea.
Might kill off the oceans especially since we know how much a tiny change in ph can alter habitats.
The humidity or air Fogg is very helpful for the crops and other big plants if these crops are not affected by this then it is a very good idea 😀 👍
I wonder why the second most efficient method (water recycling) was not talked about more than that it's cheaper to fix pipes in the USA than water recycling. In the context it was mentioned it also appears it's usually The cheapest solution.
Rain water harvesting is also a very good technique to overcome water scarcity.
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Such an interesting video! This is the first time hearing about monitoring leaks from space, I wonder what other technologies could help with leaky pipes
The only time I have heard of this is from an old Richard Prior movie called Brewster's Millions.
Canada is home to 2 Million fresh water lakes. No shortage of fresh water any time soon.
Here in Newfoundland... we make BEER AND VODKA FROM ICEBERG WATER!
All three ideas are good but we should begin with the most feasible one - fixing water leaks!
This is absolutely insane. There is no way towing icebergs is cheaper than than desalination ocean water. 😂
Wow. Great ideas with good animation...enjoyed
My worry with the fog nets is that, if these would be up-scaled to an almost industrial amount, the mist and clouds would be heavily diminished after passing through the heavily populated coastal regions, hampering both the rainfall and humidity levels crucial to all life in the more arid hinterland.
Hey. 🌱 Your concern seems to be very valid. Although, fog harvesting is typically done on a smaller scale in remote areas, away from heavily populated coastal regions. The communities that could benefit from this technique the most are also located in those areas.
Nîmes in France wastes 50% of drinking water in pipe leaks
There are plenty of places where water is over abundant, so why don’t we find an environmentally friendly way to bring that water to places where water is scarce? We could probably do so without wiping out our already depleting glaciers. The oceans are a great source of water. We can use the salts from the oceans to make batteries, and use the water for communities that lack freshwater.
Let’s discuss how water can be transported without relying on pipelines to transport water across large distances. If we concentrate light onto the water where it is over abundant then it can heat up the water to evaporation temperatures. The water will likely form clouds that can travel hundreds or thousands of miles before releasing the water again in the form of rain. This would also help cool the earth by reflecting more radiation from the sun back into space.
If we were to pump the water into troughs to utilize the afore mentioned process then we would avoid killing as much aquatic life in the process and have a means of collecting salts for batteries and for food consumption.
If every country invested in catching rain water it would help. Tons of water that just goes to waste.
The thought of microwaves beaming down on everyone, searing through our fragile atmosphere, whilst looking for leaks, is quite unsettling.
But what I don't understand is. If we take this water or humidity from one place, won't it start lacking? Even in North Pole surely the icebergs are also important aside from local fauna. Leaky pipes also end up dropping water somewhere, even if humans don't end up drinking it? Isn't the main problem that we just use too much?
Hey Bart. As for icebergs - they are definitely part of the fauna of the polar regions and provide living conditions for different species. 🐻❄️ Overconsumption, heating planet and also bad water management are the issues we need to tackle - we need to find ways to over all _use less_ .
It boggles my mind we are not learning from Singapore or Vegas (yes Vegas) for their ultra efficient management system in rich countries
Fog harvesting is pretty cool.
The iceberg idea would eradicate polar bears in no time. NO NO No NO NO! But I love the humidity idea. I live in a humid climate and I need to use a dehumidifiers and it collects 16 l. in a day or two from a closed room. Absolutely brilliant. Imagine how much a much bigger machine could collect in an open area.
Maybe using thirsty concrete to reduce flooding and sand mining reducing river erosion.
Maybe planting native plants shrubs and trees Maybe cactus and other succulents in dry hot places to reduce flooding heat wind erosion and reduce noise air and ground pollution.
Somebody watched Richard Pryor investing in Brewster’s Millions and thought “that’s a good idea”.
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Please don't use those bell sound effects. It's extremely loud in comparison to the rest of the video (very noticeable when listening through phone speakers). You can also adjust the volume of the effect if you want to use it.
The better solution is to use the sun's heat to produce water vapor or even steam (which could be used to generate electricity) and then condense the vapor back to distilled water. The condensation can be done by freezing seawater in large flat underground facilities taking the layer of ice that first forms on top of the seawater which is largely salt free and moving it to V shaped tanks where as they melt the vapor from the sun heated seawater condenses on the outside of the tanks. The water harvesting on the outside of the tanks can be sped up with windshield wiper like things that scrape the pure condensed water off the outside of the V tanks and as the ice melts it fills the V tanks with cold pure mostly desalinated water. That water can then overflow and be mixed with the condensed water. This can all be powered by photovoltaic solar panels to run the heat pumps to freeze the water and solar water heaters to boil the seawater. You can keep boiling the seawater and brine until all you are left with is nearly dry salt. You can move this salt to existing salt flats that have been deteriorating because of climate change.
Water desalination seems the more obvious choice here. Make salt water into clean drinkable water.
To do that on massive scale you need energy, alot of it. So, right now it seems (to me) more logical to solve the energy problem first.
In the meantime, you can import drinking water from other countries etc.
Catching water from the air is also already done in certain places, and it seems to work. Nothing that awesome on a grand scale, but it works in smaller scale.
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That’s literally an episode of Futurama
Yeah, all you have to do, is get an iceberg, tow it to a dry dock, pump out the old water, let the iceberg melt and look, fresh water! Simple and SOOO easy! LOL An easier way is just to turn every faucet half close. When most people wash their hands, most off the water splashes off the hands and goes down the drain! Turning the water down, allows more of the water to actually go over your hands. I suggested this back in Iraq in 2018 and my supervisors asked if I was an water engineer? Some people are just have too stupidity. I calculated we would save over 30,000 gallons per months if we did that.
So the ice in the poles is already melting and people want to take more icebergs as well! Great we’re all saved!
sprain water into the air in frontal Coast areas can transfer 30% or more water to the air,salt will drop back to the Ocean and wind will transport the humid colder Air inland, using retire wind mill or solar .
i havent watched all the way yet, but the title and thumbnail give me big FUTURAMA vibes.
We can capture water, regenerate aquifers with proper vegetation and removing asphalt.
Most of the water waste is for agriculture, for beef feed (grass is much better for the environment), and making high fructose corn syrup.
Ponds can be part of the solution. Here's an example:
ruclips.net/video/43bmtqKDhBE/видео.html
I was fully expecting a Brewster's Millions reference.
Is desalination became cheaper then unlimited water
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With regard to the fog harvesting, isn't this just messing with the water cycle? The fog would eventually come down as rain anyway. I can see the benefit though if there's no need for water processing plants using this method.
Not all fog ends up n rainfall ... Quite a lot of it remains hovering about as atmospheric humidity.
Oh look the ice ain't melting fast enough, lets harvest it!
I did listen to the rest, and water access is well addressed, as DW always does. Thank you. Pluvicopia addresses availability. We can flood any area of the planet with the natural water cycle; the book Pluvicopia shows the details of how.
How would you tow an iceberg mountain, considering that they flip when sufficiently much of the bottom or top melt? A mountain of 125 million tonnes would drag absolutely everything imaginable under with it during an accident, not to mentionthe tidal wave that could be caused if it flipped close to a habour or something.
Another solution that would help is changing how we farm crops, we waste absolutely massive amounts of water with inefficient farming.
Plus, if Saudi Arabia and the UAE want to bring them down from the Arctic to the Arabic region - they will be crossing the Gulf Stream, which will warm it and melt it faster (especially now the sea is warmer than back in the 1970's).
Also, what about the Polar Bears and the seals? They need all that ice for their cruising, fishing, pup nurseries, etc. I'm sure they're not going to appreciate ships chugging all the way up there and towing their ice away.
If the Arabic regions should be getting ice from anywhere, it should be from Thwaites Glacier, since bits keep breaking off of it. I'm sure the country that owns the area won't mind selling them chunks of it.
But as you say, icebergs roll. Towing ships are at risk. The safer way would be to attach a couple of remote controlled engines with boat propellers to the back and turn the berg into an unmanned ship.
@@debbiehenri345 As much as I would like for the UAE to care about polar bears and seals, I highly doubt they'd actually prioritise them if it came down to it. I find it way more likely to be honest, that someone puts a factory in the arctic that harvests ice in small units, and uses regular container ships to transport them, or just makes an insulated pipe to transport it as water.
Even with that said though, I don't consider either of them to be truly likely, doing so is most likely significantly harder than to make a more efficient process for desalinating sea water, and sea water is right next to them.
Letting corporations pump out as much water as they want and putting water on the #StockMarket not such a good idea after all... 🤦🤬
@3:21 …and melts into the ocean, going to waste. Illustrated with picture of polar bear and cub hunting food from floating ice.
it's odd to me that there was no mention of desalination.... that said, if we don't fix the underling issues of how we as a species waste our fresh water, it wouldn't matter if every continent was ringed with desalination plants.
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Maybe we could submerge iceberg totally. Easier to move???
Harvesting iceberg is just too much
Reverse osmosis desalination is a very costly way to produce fresh water from seawater, plus it comes with a variety of problems such as what to do with the filters that need replacing often, these systems need lots of energy (typically electric) to create the high pressure to get the seawater through the filters and the problem of the large amount of high salinic water or brine produced by the process that is an environmental hazard often just dumped back into the sea.
The better solution is to use the sun's heat to produce water vapor or even steam (which could be used to generate electricity) and then condense the vapor back to distilled water. The condensation can be done by freezing seawater in large flat underground facilities taking the layer of ice that first forms on top of the seawater which is largely salt free and moving it to V shaped tanks where as they melt the vapor from the sun heated seawater condenses on the outside of the tanks. The water harvesting on the outside of the tanks can be sped up with windshield wiper like things that scrape the pure condensed water off the outside of the V tanks and as the ice melts it fills the V tanks with cold pure mostly desalinated water. That water can then overflow and be mixed with the condensed water. This can all be powered by photovoltaic solar panels to run the heat pumps to freeze the water and solar water heaters to boil the seawater. You can keep boiling the seawater and brine until all you are left with is nearly dry salt. You can move this salt to existing salt flats that have been deteriorating because of climate change.
Bad idea, imho. All living things have a homeostasis that is necessary to sustaining those things living. Sea water has an optimal pH that is regulated and maintained by melting arctic ice. The rapid rising trend of man-made desalination plants around the world are causing a shift in pH towards the acidic range thus triggering increased deglaciation.
I know how important it is to have fresh drinking water, but don’t have to torture or kill our living planet for a drink, or for a car wash, or for laundry, etc.
The safe method of desalinating ocean water is to store the brine by-product i(currently being dumped back into sea) n shallow pools and allow to evaporate under the sun. The resulting precipitate is potash, a powerful fertilizer for plants, or with additional processing, can be utilized for battery manufacturing. We can still save our living planet, if we all pulled together as one consciousness, one tribe of humanity!
They should install giant sales on the iceberg and let it sail to its destination 🤯
Wasn't this brought up in Brewster's Millions.
Desalination plus renewable energy plus VRFBs perhaps?
What you do, it drill a large ⛵ ⛵ and sail it to the coast where you need it, then chop it up and sell it to independent shippers who ship it to their destination.
this idea was also a joke in the movie Brewsters Millions - Richard Pryor, John Candy -
I came for the water. Stayed for the puns.
Kalimera/Good morning from Nea Peramos of Attica in Greece, an area that has gotten so arid that we call it affectionately 'our little Sahara'..
The iceberg idea seems naive. If we were to exploit arctic/antarctic water, the tankers would mmor on the ice float, carve pieces of ice and fll their tanks. N waste & much less energy needed for transportation.
The mesh idea is better but only for areas that are away from the cities,otherwise it soaks in a large amount of atmospheric pollution, too.
Solar-powered desalination of seawater is the future for me after we solve the problem of what to do with the excess salt (more efficient sodium batteries maybe?).
fog harvest should divert a %to planning tres that when they grow will became harvester themselves, coffee plants benefits from this big plants that caches water and can go months without rain, that's how river keep running all year without snow melting.
Desalination Is an option too.
Ice bergs can literally be the size of or larger than some states in the US. The fact that towing them was ever proposed is nuts
Probably a dumb question but with a high enough volume of this over a period of 1000 years you can cause additional global warming right
How is extracting hydrogen from water to use in place of petrol and diesel going to impact this water crisis.
I see two major ways to help fix water issues beyond these ideas rebuilding borders to account for watersheds and making water based packs on water use if that is not an option the USA refitting their internal state borders would solve most there issues concerning water
There will be a time when the high price of desalinating water won't matter anymore.
It will just act as a natural population deterrent. Despite the world's water problems there is still plenty of places with more water than they know what to do with... It's just that those places aren't the mega cities everyone knows.
freeze desalination is a much better idea, that can be done locally on coastline.
That is actually a decent idea
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@@DWPlanetA : Thanks. I've re-watched that video, and it doesnt seem to mention anything about freeze desalination, which is a new thing being worked on by scientists, and incidentally the south and north poles have been doing this for millenia without humans. It's a promising new technology, as it takes much less energy.
What about towing an iceberg to that warm El Niño causing patch of water that's happening in the pacific right now?
But that creates a new problem, what happens to everything in the ice like diseases
Hey there! Yes, that is an issue. There are several studies that show that bacteria is stored in the ice and is released into the environment when melting occurs. This is one of them if you want to find out more detailsroyalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rspb.2022.1073
Japan seems to have an abundance of rainwater and seldom has droughts. Possibly in the near future they will trade oil for water.
Fog is way more sustainable since they are evaporated water from the afternoon before
Let's really start thinking of the concept of moving icebergs to the desert areas ?..
I am sure that the money will be there just like the money was and is there when the construction(s) started for all those tall buildings. And now there is the problem of water for those inhabitants.
Israel, in this case, is a great example of smart use of getting drinkable water. When people settled in the drier ares, they started changing that desert into a livable area. Desalination of seawater etc...
Is this the narrator from @AthleticInterest?
how about erecting cloths on a hanger for arresting fog as a economical ways of harvesting water?
And also, add capital letters when you start a sentence.
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i think the disruption of natural water cycle is a wonderfull idea
why u wanna drag icebergs when u can make fresh water out of the see next to u ?
Just build wind-traps from the Dune
They should bring a bunch to the ocean and let them melt. Then everything would be fine