The Mystery Flaw of Solar Panels

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  • Опубликовано: 25 сен 2020
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  • @winterloggan
    @winterloggan 3 года назад +2828

    Seeing a solar cell on top of a roof in the late 1800s and on a Baker Electric Car in the early 1900s looks straight out of science fiction

    • @frogga67
      @frogga67 3 года назад +9

      Hi

    • @alwynwatson6119
      @alwynwatson6119 3 года назад +33

      The only way to cool solar panels is actively don't fall for thisruclips.net/video/HMFFkIj6uo0/видео.html fake news. Batteries are the only way to store energy. Don't fall for this highviewpower.com/ fake news. Also the solar panels are just for show because if they worked they would do this ruclips.net/video/WYtRuOz4Wvw/видео.html
      When did you notice I was joking?

    • @jj0493
      @jj0493 3 года назад +15

      Alwyn Watson what do you mean joking it’s true look m.youtube.com/watch/dQw4w9WgXcQ

    • @lizardlegend42
      @lizardlegend42 3 года назад +47

      @@alwynwatson6119 Ok bot

    • @alwynwatson6119
      @alwynwatson6119 3 года назад +16

      @@lizardlegend42 Beep beep hoxs beep

  • @thomaslauermann2494
    @thomaslauermann2494 3 года назад +2544

    I worked with three of the cited authors in this video on Gallium vs Boron doped Si to eliminate this degradation in my PhD thesis. Lovely to see it acknowledged and explained eloquently on RUclips 8 years later :-) Awesome channel, keep up the great work!

    • @OklahomaLubeDude
      @OklahomaLubeDude 3 года назад +40

      Would this be avoidable if the production was done in a straight nitrogen environment? May be a stupid question, but I know it works in reducing oxidation of hydrocarbon lubricants.

    • @Ak3rf3ldt
      @Ak3rf3ldt 3 года назад +16

      What is the best solar panel to use currently?

    • @thomaslauermann2494
      @thomaslauermann2494 3 года назад +54

      @@Ak3rf3ldt Silicon based technologies are still king

    • @MeatandTatersGaming54
      @MeatandTatersGaming54 3 года назад +24

      Everything I've ever read about solor panels has talked about basically just one frequency , many modern military industrial complex weapons can see and target in multiple wave lengths of light at once so could there be some kind of hybrid silicone we could try that might be able collect electrons from non visible light???

    • @Rotem_S
      @Rotem_S 3 года назад +20

      @@MeatandTatersGaming54 You may be able to separate the infrared to a different panel but you'd need a lot of resources for it to be worth it for just 18% of the solar energy

  • @adodoes8770
    @adodoes8770 Год назад +51

    I'm an EE student and I'm literally studying a subject with semicondoctors, diodes and transistors now. I'm really glad to actually see all of the theory in play. Your explanation was spot on for understanding the basics. Another great video from one of my favorite youtubers

    • @slevinchannel7589
      @slevinchannel7589 Год назад

      No Solarpanel-Flaw is bigger than BUREAUCRACY. Theres some real 'Accident-Scandals' where good People just wanted to give back Stuff and arent allowed for nonsense-reasons.

    • @KimoKimochii
      @KimoKimochii 7 месяцев назад +1

      what’s a semicondoctor

  • @jeromebarry1741
    @jeromebarry1741 2 года назад +9

    Thank you! I'd been a tech helping design semiconductors since 1983 and 16 months after you published this video I saw and for the first time learned of "shallow acceptors".

  • @BenQuigley
    @BenQuigley 3 года назад +2513

    I have to say, I think the presentation on this one is one of the best yet. And I've always rated you very high up that list already.

    • @1rstTry
      @1rstTry 3 года назад +34

      I couldn’t agree more. I was a little worried a few months back but this video is outstanding. Niche point but, I watched it on my new oled tv and the video quality is stunning. A LOT of work went into this and it shows. Bravo

    • @arnefines2356
      @arnefines2356 3 года назад +5

      @@1rstTry "A liitle worried", the Nikola video had me unsubscribe in desperation.

    • @flymypg
      @flymypg 3 года назад +34

      Agreed! Such a well-made video. And the segue to Brilliant was also one of the best I've ever seen, doing much to convince me Brilliant can be a truly useful tool, beyond supporting idle curiosity or entertainment.
      The tragic coincidence of Nicola's troubles occurring so soon after the Real Engineering video encouraged me to re-watch the video: All it's major points still stand, despite using Nicola as the example. The biggest risk, also mentioned, concerns the source of Hydrogen, which prior Real Engineering videos have covered quite nicely. Covering both the uses of Hydrogen and its sources are important: We can only hope they meet well enough to make a functional infrastructure possible.

    • @mattpeacock5208
      @mattpeacock5208 3 года назад +2

      Agreed, well put.

    • @krzysiekb.3439
      @krzysiekb.3439 3 года назад +5

      I could not agree more. Incredible video. The amount of knowledge transferred was impressive, but also the quality of animation.

  • @speddelic8742
    @speddelic8742 3 года назад +698

    That has to be one of the cleanest brilliant adverts yet

    • @feruchio599
      @feruchio599 3 года назад +19

      quite annoying tho

    • @voxelfusion9894
      @voxelfusion9894 3 года назад +40

      Whenever youtubers talk about learning new things, I always know it'll be brilliant haha

    • @feruchio599
      @feruchio599 3 года назад +19

      @@voxelfusion9894 or skillshare

    • @zaidahmed5464
      @zaidahmed5464 3 года назад +13

      clean so much that made me see it and didn't skip

    • @arunpillai3007
      @arunpillai3007 3 года назад +8

      @@voxelfusion9894 or Audible

  • @gerryjamesedwards1227
    @gerryjamesedwards1227 2 года назад +14

    I think that the idea of floating solar panels, for use in pumped-hydro reservoirs, is a good one. The panels are cooled, and evaporation of the water decreases as more surface area is covered by the panels. Also, the infrastructure for distributing the power produced is nearby in the hydro plant.

    • @DownWithBureaucracy
      @DownWithBureaucracy 6 месяцев назад +1

      Except the toxic substances that come off the solar panels over time, specifically heavy metals.

  • @brucemccall6539
    @brucemccall6539 2 года назад +19

    SOLAR HEAT FROM 1943: My house, in Florida, had a solar powered water heater installed in 1943. The solar unit was a steel box, about 3 inches deep, with a sheet glass on the face. (This box was about 12 feet long and 2 feet wide, but these dimensions can be as big you want.) This box had a 1 inch copper pipe that zigzagged though out the box, with about 3 inches between the rows. There was also a sheet of copper lining the back side of the box. Both the pipes and the coper sheet were painted black so as to absorb the heat of the sun.
    The box was placed at a 45 degree angle, facing to the south. The pipe then went to a normal electric water heater, which heated the water on cloudy days. This was a simple, but efficient, system that was still in use when the house was sold in 2009.

    • @kylemilford8758
      @kylemilford8758 6 месяцев назад +1

      We had a pool heater like this, basically an analog solar panel 😂

    • @xithappens
      @xithappens 4 месяца назад +1

      Not at all what's being explained in the video, but sure, cool.

  • @jonathonharwell1764
    @jonathonharwell1764 3 года назад +472

    As someone who designs and makes solar cells for a living I have to say I'm really impressed with how well you covered this topic! It's a complicated subject with a lot of subtleties and you did a great job explaining it to a general audience! Nice work!

    • @peterfrying4933
      @peterfrying4933 3 года назад +7

      Jonathon Harwell Would love to know your story and how you got into your field!

    • @pwnmeisterage
      @pwnmeisterage 3 года назад +7

      @ Substances like glass and semiconductors generally aren't recycled. Because it usually takes more energy to melt them down and separate their elements than to just make a new batch. Most electronics recycling is actually concerned only with recovering the gold, silver, copper, and rare earths - the precious stuff - while the rest of the toxic plastic metal silicon garbage is discarded.

    • @jonathonharwell1764
      @jonathonharwell1764 3 года назад +30

      @@peterfrying4933 I'm a physicist by trade and now I work in academia researching new materials and designs of solar cells. I did a degree in physics and basically looked for any research group I could find who worked on solar cells and did a PhD with them (it's surprisingly easy to get into a research group as a phd student as you are essentially free labour. Getting funding is the hard bit!). Now I have a PhD I am (slowly) trying to get my own research group started. It's a tough field to work in and there is a lot of competition, but it does at least have job satisfaction!

    • @furripupau
      @furripupau 3 года назад +10

      There is no comparison really, because the extraction, transportation, and storage of coal creates a great deal of waste, and then there is the consequent removal and disposal of ash. Consider also that solar power does not necessarily mean photovoltaic panels, solar thermal plants work on basically the same principle as any fossil fuel powered plant, except the boilers are replaced by solar troughs and heat exchangers. Since solar generation does not require the transport, delivery, and storage of fuel stock, and consequently no rail sidings, docks, etc. (and the carbon emissions associated with all those ancillary activities) all that doesn't even enter into the picture.

    • @jonathonharwell1764
      @jonathonharwell1764 3 года назад +43

      @ TLDR - About 90 % of silicon solar cells go to landfill right now, but this is a big field of research right now so it is likely to improve a lot in the future.
      -By most metrics solar power wins by about a factor of 10 in terms of lifetime costs of energy production, but this can vary a lot depending on what factors you take into account.
      Full disclosure - I work mostly on prototyping new materials and designs on the small scale rather than dealing with the large, industrial-scale issues. However I can give you what I have learned at conferences etc. The energy costs of production can vary massively depending on the type of solar panel you are describing, but I shall assume you want to know about monocrystalline silicon since that is the most common kind of solar cell. Thin-film technologies use about 1000 x less material to produce than a silicon cell so they have the potential to improve upon the below stats, but they come with their own problems which i won't go into.
      Silicon cells are made of about 75 % glass, 10 % polymers, 8 % aluminium, 5 % silicon, and the rest is small amounts of copper, silver, and other metals. There is also a small amount of toxic lead and tin because solar panels are allowed to use leaded solder (unlike most other electronics) so this is obviously also a concern. Currently there are no regulations on disposing of solar cells outside of europe, so about 90 % go to landfill because it's currently not profitable to recycle them. There is a lot of research going into this though because it's a potential goldmine if you can make it profitable. The detailed recycling processes are often closely guarded secrets, but the basic process is you heat the cell up and then peel off the glass panels which make up the bulk of the cell, then you burn away the polymers using sulfuric acid and hydrogen peroxide, and finally you use various acids and chemicals to selectively dissolve all the remaining materials one by one. Hence you can recycle them, but the materials you get out of them are currently worth less than the costs of recycling. Regulation and further research is expected to help with this.
      It is hard to find unbiased data on lifetime carbon footprints, and it is easy to skew the data by conveniently forgetting certain parts of the life cycle (e.g. the mining costs for coal or the production costs for solar.). Burning coal, you fundamentally get about 340 g of CO2 per kWh of electricity, purely based on how much energy is in coal per molecule and the efficiency of a power station. This does not take into account mining costs or whether you capture the carbon (most places dont capture carbon). A 1 kW solar panel takes between 400 and 500 kg of CO2 to manufacture, and should probably assume that it will only produce an average of about 10 % of its rated output over its lifetime (accounting for night, clouds etc.). Hence this panel will produce about 17,000 kWh over its 20 year lifetime, which works out to about 29 g per Kwh. This ignores the installation costs, space costs, and costs of recycling, but even if these triple the impact then solar still wins. Plus this also doesn't take into account the other pollutants and environmental damage assosciated with coal, so in my view it's hard to argue that solar is worse than coal environmentally. However I'm obviously biased so you should probably look at the arguments I make rather than my own opinion. Solar panels have their own version of Moore's law called swanson's law, where the costs of making them halve roughly every 5 years, so hopefully it won't be long before solar power is no longer a political issue and just one which makes good financial sense. They are already profitable without subsidy in certain places, and once they get cheap enough there will be basically no reason not to integrate them into a new building or whatever (why would you turn down free cash?). It looks like we are approaching that day pretty quickly too! :)

  • @alexanderkrneta8032
    @alexanderkrneta8032 3 года назад +1134

    This is the best brilliant advert I have ever seen.

    • @EchoBuildsThings
      @EchoBuildsThings 3 года назад +53

      *most brilliant? 😁

    • @styx5062
      @styx5062 3 года назад +30

      Asa9 I think he’s talking about the website brilliant

    • @WokerThanThou
      @WokerThanThou 3 года назад +21

      Yes, but ... I can't take a product seriously when it uses the "first x amount" of people get extra stuff scam.

    • @_Amilio_
      @_Amilio_ 3 года назад +14

      a most perfect segway

    • @PunzL
      @PunzL 3 года назад +14

      @@_Amilio_ *segue

  • @roberttai646
    @roberttai646 2 года назад +3

    This video is one of the very best explanations of the workings of solar cells I have ever seen. I teach teachers how to teach science to tiny kids in an elementary teach education program and this video has helped me understand how solar cells work better than anything else I have come across. I'm excited about sharing this information with my students and helping them develop the confidence to share it with their students.
    (Just a thought.) There is one thing that should be considered in my opinion. The word, "holes." The understanding that most people have about "holes" is a lack of something in a body of something. A hole in a sheet of paper. A hole in a field of grass. A hold in a wall. "Moving holes" is a concept that does not resonate with many people. No one has ever had a hole in a sheet of paper move to a different part of a sheet of paper. Etc. I know that "holes" are a term used as a short cut for a "position" in the semiconductor lattice that has an overall positive charge. But a student trying to understand this information for the first time can get completely turned around on just this one critical term. I think "holes" needs to be replaced with something else that doesn't have so much conflicting baggage.

  • @jz-ez7wx
    @jz-ez7wx 2 года назад +1

    Very cool to see the robot arms I used to teach the wafer loading and handoff positions in action, the semiconductor industry has really opened my eyes and encouraged me to pursue a more rewarding career in the industry

  • @dan_draft
    @dan_draft 3 года назад +1067

    8:23 My name is Bond... Covalent Bond.
    I'll let myself out.

  • @thelistener1268
    @thelistener1268 3 года назад +1459

    That was THE BEST transition into a sponsor I've ever seen.

    • @cupiduspacis4209
      @cupiduspacis4209 3 года назад +54

      Indeed, it was pretty impressive! It worked too, as I'm now inspired to check it out.

    • @alainspecteur1
      @alainspecteur1 3 года назад +101

      yes, it was "Brilliant"

    • @TristanVash38
      @TristanVash38 3 года назад +40

      This was the perfect rick roll that I watched all the way through. I clutched my chest and said, "omg he got me at 100% efficiency to watch the ad versus 18% with Linus Tech Tips."

    • @anthonybomberry9935
      @anthonybomberry9935 3 года назад +2

      Amen

    • @anthonybomberry9935
      @anthonybomberry9935 3 года назад +1

      Amen

  • @solargoat
    @solargoat 3 года назад +11

    Pretty cool to take a time machine back to see how old solar panels used to work. All the stuff I install now is boron free in the doping process and doesn’t have light induced degradation.

  • @jcgoogle1808
    @jcgoogle1808 3 года назад +2

    That was the smoothest continuous segue into and ad I have ever seen.
    I mean the ones you typically get hit with come at you with cheap slap stick cliches you can see coming from a mile away.

  • @sayethwe8683
    @sayethwe8683 3 года назад +180

    Already watched it on nebula, but giving you those interaction points here too.

    • @hkr667
      @hkr667 3 года назад +1

      I really don't like Nebula that much and still watch all the videos on youtube.

    • @renanmendes1299
      @renanmendes1299 2 года назад

      @@hkr667 You can abuse the free trial on nebula tho

  • @Fabelot1
    @Fabelot1 3 года назад +257

    This is the best visualization and explanation of semi-conductors that I've ever seen! Thanks for always bringing interesting topics :)

    • @zaidahmed5464
      @zaidahmed5464 3 года назад +6

      actually I have this topic in high school never understood it like he did explain also when he's talking about fermi level I strangely understood it, the way he explaining things are "brilliant"

    • @z3lop59
      @z3lop59 3 года назад +5

      But it's not quite right, he misses a few points in the pn transition.

    • @jaketyler7088
      @jaketyler7088 3 года назад +5

      @@z3lop59 It's good enough for a short solar video. There are entire college courses devoted to semiconductors; not the easiest to fully explain in three minutes.

    • @ReachOutToWilliam
      @ReachOutToWilliam 3 года назад

      @@zaidahmed5464 Quick, Watson! The vomit pail!

    • @AstralS7orm
      @AstralS7orm 3 года назад +2

      This is high school chemistry level presentation though. The physics is not actually fully known here. (Go ask about Quantum Hall effect, and that's the more known part.) The electron-hole model is known to be an invalid approximation.

  • @llindamarisol
    @llindamarisol 2 года назад +6

    I really love absorbing as much information as I can on these solar panels. It’s a great industry to be a part of

  • @sciuresci1403
    @sciuresci1403 3 года назад +8

    I like how no one mentions the damage done to the environment during the production of solar panels. Nuclear is way more reliable and clean. And thorium is safer compared to uranium. There is a relentless lobbying against research regarding plants using thorium for fuel..

    • @markchidester6239
      @markchidester6239 2 года назад

      Until something goes wrong with the nuclear power plant. How much pollution is created then? How much pollution is created with nuclear waste? Where do we put it?
      Seems that no matter what we do, there is a problem with it.

    • @Slicerwizard
      @Slicerwizard 2 года назад +1

      @@markchidester6239 Meanwhile, well run plants don't "go wrong".

    • @markchidester6239
      @markchidester6239 2 года назад

      @@Slicerwizard
      Well the one in Japan sure did. Mother nature didn't seem to like it.

    • @Slicerwizard
      @Slicerwizard 2 года назад +1

      @@markchidester6239 Oh, the one where TEPCO didn't bother to protect the backup generators from a tsunami - in a major fault zone? That's your idea of a well run plant? Meanwhile, a dam failure triggered by the earthquake killed more residents than the nuclear plant did. Guess you should start crying about dam construction as well.

    • @markchidester6239
      @markchidester6239 2 года назад +1

      @@Slicerwizard I never said it was well run.
      My point was that it polluted the planet. YOU said that a well run nuclear power plant doesn't pollute if it is well run.
      I don't understand how nuclear waste isn't pollution, but what ever. You know all.

  • @palapafox1268
    @palapafox1268 3 года назад +255

    12:04
    Nature:
    you couldn't live with your own failure and where did that bring you? back to me.

    • @BrutuxMusic
      @BrutuxMusic 3 года назад +3

      "Failure" I'd like to see anyone or anything do better

    • @electronresonator8882
      @electronresonator8882 3 года назад +1

      ​@@BrutuxMusic watch this video ruclips.net/video/BickMFHAZR0/видео.html "How Trees Bend the Laws of Physics"

    • @TheIcyhydra
      @TheIcyhydra 3 года назад +5

      look at that worm eating the leaf....that's called natural selection

    • @carso1500
      @carso1500 3 года назад +1

      We take a lot of inspiration from nature, taking what it has created learning from it and perfecting it

    • @TheIcyhydra
      @TheIcyhydra 3 года назад +1

      @Renato A dude, nobody mentioned chineses, i think you can rest assured...lolol

  • @pace7746
    @pace7746 3 года назад +157

    That was a Brilliant transition into the sponsor.

    • @godfreypoon5148
      @godfreypoon5148 3 года назад +1

      @Renato A oh yeah, totally

    • @nofthet5548
      @nofthet5548 3 года назад

      @ 0.1% .....who hurt you ?

    • @thedude4039
      @thedude4039 3 года назад

      Kind of ironic huh?

    • @richardnixon5710
      @richardnixon5710 3 года назад +1

      @01 % ok ok m8 this was about solar cells and advertising you might be on wrong site i think you might be looking for UP IN SMOKE by Cheech and Chong or some other more " plant " based site

  • @DrinkingStar
    @DrinkingStar 2 года назад +8

    I thank you for explaining quite nicely and simply how solar cells work. I will be viewing your video several more times so as to catch some of the things that I know I missed on just this 1st viewing. Because of the future of and need for "green" (= carbon free) energy, I have been doing much research ( reading and viewing videos) on solar cells and hydrogen fuel cells(batteries). From what I can tell, the energy created using solar cells can be use to release hydrogen from either water or ammonia. Ultimately, the energy associated with this free hydrogen can be stored in fuel cells. Fuel cells batteries can store more energy than lithium based batteries. Lithium is considered "grey" energy and because of mining, it is environmentally destructive. The same cannot be said about water and ammonia which are considered green energy. As a result I have been investing/speculating in both types of ventures(solar cell and fuel cell manufacturing). Below is an excerpt of a news article that relates to the current efficiency of solar cells.
    Zacks Equity Research
    Fri, July 16, 2021, 8:44 AM
    In this article:
    JinkoSolar Holding Co., Ltd.’s advanced high-efficiency solar module recently set a new record by attaining the highest conversion efficiency at 23.53%. Its large-area N-type monocrystalline silicon solar cells have also set a test record of 25.25%.
    P.S. JinkoSolar is one of the companies in which I invested.

  • @charlesdomalewski7817
    @charlesdomalewski7817 3 года назад +2

    That was the most incredibly subtle, efficient segway to an ad I've ever seen. Kudos! Well done.

  • @ThomasLee123
    @ThomasLee123 3 года назад +133

    Love your description of basic electronic theory. P-N junctions are what makes transistors and other devices work and almost no one in our population knows this basic information. Thanks again.

  • @ChillinwithLandD
    @ChillinwithLandD 3 года назад +603

    Irish people say “t’reshold”. Hmm, interesting

    • @James-cb7nb
      @James-cb7nb 3 года назад +22

      M'lady

    • @nizm0man
      @nizm0man 3 года назад +11

      I see/hear nothing too unusual

    • @dell899
      @dell899 3 года назад +6

      they are also scared of heighth

    • @johnc7385
      @johnc7385 3 года назад +31

      Irish people swallow the h on most words. Thanks becomes t'anks, three, t'ree, think, t'ink and so on.

    • @Hissmannen
      @Hissmannen 3 года назад +24

      First, second, turd...

  • @sarahmandel7179
    @sarahmandel7179 2 года назад +1

    Very nicely explained. The Brilliant segue was so smooth. I managed to catch it as it was happening. That's always the bonus part of the video. Thumbs up.

  • @danpacleb790
    @danpacleb790 2 года назад +13

    Nicely done. I applaud you for providing insight and understanding. Question - as solar technologies age (panels) and are replaced, these old panels...how are they disposed of? Do they provide a real hazard to us and the environment. Much like the disposal of CRT tvs and computer screen, computer components themselves, nuclear fuel and even the cars and its components, we've learned its disposal provides hazards. For all its good intended values do the solar technology components have a 'dark side' in its after life.Is this too being managed?

    • @thefeds7462
      @thefeds7462 Год назад

      No one really recycles old panels as they are past use by dates. So, disposing of panels is a massive future issue. Not to mention 2 things the Greenies will not mention. 1. The resources needed from the planet to build them. Simply put we need to rape and pillage the earth so it is probably more environmentally friendly to stick with coal fired plants or nuclear 2. And destroying acres of land to put solar farms is just dumb and defeats the purpose. Then to this add electric car manufacturing. What a environmental catastrophe that is. Refer to recent talks from Manhattan Institute。

  • @italianbillclinton5582
    @italianbillclinton5582 3 года назад +234

    Would love a video about why solar cells do poorly in heat if you’re up for it

    • @RealEngineering
      @RealEngineering  3 года назад +334

      As soon as explanations go into quantum physics, my brain is incapable of understanding. Not smart enough for that shit

    • @gabrielbloch8837
      @gabrielbloch8837 3 года назад +104

      @@RealEngineering understandable, have a nice day

    • @craigwall9536
      @craigwall9536 3 года назад +78

      @@gabrielbloch8837 Silly. Increased temperatures mean increased electron energies which mean increased chances of electron _tunneling_ across otherwise insulating junctions. IOWs, increased temperatures mean the damn thing gets "leaky" in places where that leakage loss should be low. Put another way, it starts to _hemorrhage_ electrically.

    • @tommegg8486
      @tommegg8486 3 года назад +33

      @@RealEngineering well that does mean you should go back to that Brilliant course

    • @MrSparker95
      @MrSparker95 3 года назад +12

      @@craigwall9536 Thanks for explanation. Silicon devices degrade with temperature a lot (exponentially!), one can check a datasheet of any seniconductor device (diode or transistor) to see. No surprise it also affects the solar panels.

  • @renownerd.276
    @renownerd.276 3 года назад +584

    Is it just me or is he talking slower?

    • @RealEngineering
      @RealEngineering  3 года назад +870

      I hosted a TV show in Ireland and I think they may have knocked the fast talking out of me.

    • @WarrenGarabrandt
      @WarrenGarabrandt 3 года назад +197

      @@RealEngineering It's a difficult balance of talking fast enough to not drag on, and not talking so fast that people can't understand you. I think you're struck a pretty good balance here. You might be able to go up be 20% or so, but I definitely wouldn't go any slower. Thanks for the quality content though. :D

    • @renownerd.276
      @renownerd.276 3 года назад +47

      @@RealEngineering Video was still great and informative, so it didn't really detract from the experience.

    • @victorang928
      @victorang928 3 года назад +9

      @@RealEngineering woahhh

    • @Redstoneghost133
      @Redstoneghost133 3 года назад +55

      play it at 1.25x speed

  • @NickRoman
    @NickRoman Год назад +3

    This explained how solar cells work in a way I don't think I've ever heard before. It's interesting that your intention was to explain a certain flaw, but better explained the fundamental functioning better than anyone else (that I know of).

  • @patmaloney5735
    @patmaloney5735 2 года назад +2

    Im really grateful for channels and individuals such as real engineering.

  • @IncroyablesExperiences
    @IncroyablesExperiences 3 года назад +931

    All is extremely well explained, thanks!
    I thought the 19th century solar panel was a joke, it blows my mind! Way before the photoelectric effect was explained by einstein. I love old innovations of the late 1800s, they just tried everything about energy vs mobility (trolley, comprenssed air, kinetic, and so on.)

    • @TheOneG36
      @TheOneG36 3 года назад +29

      Becquerel and Hertz discovered it decades before Einstein, what Einstein did was the Planck constant
      with you guessed it Max Planck.......... (the quasi scale for Quantum Mechanics)

    • @RandomGuy0400
      @RandomGuy0400 3 года назад +10

      Well the 1800's solar panels were real, you aren't wrong in thinking they were a joke; they actually kinda were, having an efficiency of only around 1%

    • @AD-kv8iu
      @AD-kv8iu 3 года назад +53

      @@RandomGuy0400 I think not appreciating their curiosity and innovativion is a tasteless joke .
      Now that your armed with a lot more info it seems that way.
      Think about it
      If you were to meet yourself a 100 years later you can go on ranting you could have done this and that and what not but the fact is that was the start .
      At that time the electron was not experimentally verified ...
      It was a different era .
      Electromagnetism was just picking up the pace .

    • @michael.forkert
      @michael.forkert 3 года назад +14

      Exactly(!), the great masquerade begun at the beginning of the 19th century, which transformed planet’s societies into what they are now. It transformed Monarchies into Republics, which replaced all monarchs, convincing peoples on earth, through misleading propaganda, that even the good monarchs were blood thirsty plutocratic tyrants. The great masquerade led initially to the First World War, which began 1914 and ended in 1918, and during this period of caos, the Soviet Communist Revolution (1917) was also achieved, by the Bolsheviks led by Lenin, Trotsky et caterva. The great masquerade did not replace the totality of European Monarchies with democracies. In reality it transformed monarchies into communist, nazi or fascist dictatorships, what lead to the Second World War. After the end of WWII, began the implementation, and consolidation of communist regimes throughout the world, (e.g. Iron Curtain, China, Korea, Vietnam, Cuba, just to mention the most important), which was achieved by a blood bath never seen in beforehand in the planets history.

    • @danecrude
      @danecrude 3 года назад +5

      @@RandomGuy0400 100 % better than the one they try just before the one that worked

  • @jansenart0
    @jansenart0 3 года назад +77

    Still waiting on the rest of that Space Elevator analysis.

    • @CaptainSeamus
      @CaptainSeamus 3 года назад

      A space elevator would be great!!!
      Just read the Red Mars, Blue Mars, Green Mars trilogy to see just how "great" they could be...

  • @paulfiore850
    @paulfiore850 3 года назад +3

    Excellent article. In Upstage NY I see solar farms covered in snow on bright, sunny days. I'm completely off grid and I can tell you that there is zero power produced when panels are snow covered. Must lose enormous amounts of energy after a snowstorm

    • @freetvable
      @freetvable 2 года назад +1

      I'm in Northeast, we mounted panels on our south facing walls! No snow! Plus snow reflection causes massive power. We are offgrd also 12+ years.

    • @paulfiore850
      @paulfiore850 2 года назад

      @@freetvable Where in NE? I'm in Southern Adirondack mountains upstate NY

  • @Pingviinimursu
    @Pingviinimursu 2 года назад +40

    Finally an excellent way to tie in the sponsor. I saw it coming before you mentioned brilliant, but that didn't matter. What mattered, is that for the first time I've encountered, you showed an actual problem that you solved with the help of brilliant. This might not be a problem I'm facing, but this type of tie in still deserves a ton of more respect than the usual bad puns that are so common with sponsors. Good job!

  • @Bob_Adkins
    @Bob_Adkins 3 года назад +45

    Dust is a highly underrated problem on solar panels that I never see mention of in panel efficiency. It necessitates very hard, very expensive labor to keep up with dust settling. Simply rinsing is not enough, the panels must be rinsed with distilled water or well dried to prevent lime deposits. Improperly drying panels with tap water will make them lose efficiency permanently, so workers must be well supervised.

    • @KarldorisLambley
      @KarldorisLambley 2 года назад +9

      must the worker's supervisors be supervised too?

    • @robinspat
      @robinspat 2 года назад +2

      Now consider solar panels on liveaboard boats, sea water ;)

    • @Bob_Adkins
      @Bob_Adkins 2 года назад

      @@robinspat Good thinking!

    • @RevAnakin
      @RevAnakin 8 месяцев назад

      I recommend visiting any other power generation plant. The sheer volume of skilled workers is significant compared to the few people needed to "wash the car".

    • @Bob_Adkins
      @Bob_Adkins 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@RevAnakin There's one just down the road from me, and yes it does have a lot of highly paid, happy, skilled workers with 401Ks.

  • @IsmaelAlvesBr
    @IsmaelAlvesBr 3 года назад +124

    Yes guys! Photovoltaic cells are just diodes with the sun

    • @philipschloesser
      @philipschloesser 3 года назад +22

      I mean... They're also just diodes

    • @kraziecatclady
      @kraziecatclady 3 года назад +1

      I've been saying that for a pretty long time now.

    • @gelatinocyte6270
      @gelatinocyte6270 3 года назад +25

      They're LEDs in reverse

    • @ColinTimmins
      @ColinTimmins 3 года назад +14

      If you power the solar cell, it can work as a very crude LED, providing IR I believe...

    • @philipschloesser
      @philipschloesser 3 года назад +12

      @@ColinTimmins not if it's made of silicon. Silicon has an indirect band gap, which makes it unusable for LEDs

  • @sicknic715
    @sicknic715 3 года назад +7

    I sit and watch things like this and I can not help but laugh at how dumb I really am compared to the people working on these problems.

  • @abhijitborah
    @abhijitborah 3 года назад +2

    Kudos: Great video. Band gaps to knowledge gap to becoming brilliant was in a never seen or heard before method.

  • @altoticket
    @altoticket 3 года назад +44

    There's actually lots of deep research for this video, what a treat you presented us with! Thanks!

  • @DiracComb.7585
    @DiracComb.7585 3 года назад +23

    I did a paper on photovoltaic cells for a class I had this summer, gotta say, kinda wish this video was released then, still, great work

  • @pieteruys2032
    @pieteruys2032 3 года назад +4

    You need to discuss the vast tracts of land that have to be given over to the renewable power sources. What is the lifespan of the panels and how will aged panels be disposed of?

  • @sunshine7453
    @sunshine7453 2 года назад

    This is the best explanation of solar cell together with the graphics. It takes a lot of efforts. Thank you!

  • @creator8101
    @creator8101 3 года назад +136

    15:18 wow that is the smoothest transition to sponsor I've ever seen

    • @nobodyisn0tdead
      @nobodyisn0tdead 3 года назад +8

      @dustybroom16 Last time I checked, smoothest didn't mean unexpected...
      A transition can be smooth and predictable.

    • @csanton3946
      @csanton3946 3 года назад

      Polymatter is much smoother, that dude always caught me by surprise

  • @EXtREMeBuLLsHyTS
    @EXtREMeBuLLsHyTS 3 года назад +9

    I am a PhD student working on semiconductors, specifically on large area electronics (PV solar cells are in this group) and i totally recommend this video on this topic. Well done Real Engineering! Big thumbs up from me! 👍🏻 (Also subscriber of your Nebula channel)

    • @andrewdavis6012
      @andrewdavis6012 3 года назад

      Germany is held up as the world’s solar and wind capital by “renewables luvvies” but Germans are freezing through winter due to “millions of solar panels blanketed in snow” and turbines sitting idle,no wind this is happening now

  • @ADEpoch
    @ADEpoch Год назад

    You explain why we need your sponsor better than most other Channels (even for the exact same sponsor!), probably because you are being honest about what you know and don't. Thanks.

  • @zorro19934
    @zorro19934 3 года назад +1

    Great video! Very informative. And the solar energy course on Brilliant is also very good and helpful.

  • @nicoz4122
    @nicoz4122 3 года назад +62

    Amazing content. Super clear ! The PV panels are a complicated matter that mixes mathematics, Physics and some chemistry. This content is important to explain in less than 15 minutes what is the current state of the PV panels, the limitation, efficiency and even a little bit the possible future evolutions. Great content ! Keep on the good work !

  • @ororc
    @ororc 3 года назад +5

    I've worked and researched in solar in several years and I'm super impressed that you were able to create such and excellent and detailed introduction to photovotaics after a couple weeks of research. This is so clear without skipping on vital details.
    There only thing that bothered me was that silicon does not balance spectral constraints the best. Thr ideal bandga0 for a solar cell is 1.3-1.5 eV

  • @This_is_my_real_name
    @This_is_my_real_name 2 года назад +8

    Instead of anti-reflective surface treatment to _block_ reflected light, what I'd do is _enhance_ its reflectivity -- but do so selectively.
    I'd use a dichroic reflector that would _pass_ that part of the spectrum for which silicon cells are most effective (blue), and _reflect_ the _rest_ of the spectrum (green, red, infrared) -- which would have two benefits: It would prevent the photocells from heating up so much, and, it would allow the heat to be _captured_ for a _secondary_ power generation system (i.e., the central _"molten salt tower"_ concept as used in the Sahara).

    • @vikraal6974
      @vikraal6974 Год назад

      Lmao, using only blue light makes the problem worse. You'd be getting even lesser than 10% efficiency

    • @This_is_my_real_name
      @This_is_my_real_name Год назад +2

      @@vikraal6974 -- Yawn... then pick the best color. Case Closed.
      PS: Decades ago, when I had a camera repair store/shop, silicon photocells were introduced as a replacement for the then-universal CdS (resistive) photocells. They were as I recall described as "silicon blue" cells that required filtration to counter the silicon photocell's blue sensitivity.
      I guess the technology has changed in the past nearly half-century. Go figure.

    • @thomaswinstonmontague9272
      @thomaswinstonmontague9272 Год назад +1

      @@This_is_my_real_name "prevent the photocells from heating up so much" Photocell heat is not a problem in real-world installations.
      "Yawn...Case Closed" Your imagination isn't the final arbiter.
      "photocell's blue sensitivity" So the blue light was filtered OUT, while you want to filter red and green light OUT. Nonsense.

  • @bergfpv6486
    @bergfpv6486 2 года назад +1

    Your segway into the "Brilliant" ad was brilliant. Great video.

  • @SnowyValk
    @SnowyValk 3 года назад +32

    I tried to tak a course on brilliant on solar energy but i just started 8th grade so i didn't understand most of the things there but you managed explain in a way that even i can understand some of it you are amazing

  • @bobgreene2892
    @bobgreene2892 3 года назад +3

    I just discovered this channel, and am amazed you do not "water down" the content like so many other, popular video course streams. We not only need, but seek a challenge, and this approach animates everything about Real Engineering-- there is always a rewarding surprise, in store.

  • @Eat_Ride_Sleep
    @Eat_Ride_Sleep 3 года назад +1

    This was an excellent, digestible explanation. Nice work.

  • @ryuuguu01
    @ryuuguu01 2 года назад

    I enjoyed this and it was the first Brillant ad I have seen that made it sound useful. Usually, ads talk about teaching basic stuff to people with no science or math background.

  • @amcluesent
    @amcluesent 3 года назад +200

    TBH the sun is a bit overrated. At least the moon gives a bit of light off at night. The sun only shines in daytime, when it’s light outside anyway so it is.

    • @123pathTube
      @123pathTube 3 года назад +14

      Lol

    • @YodaWhat
      @YodaWhat 3 года назад +42

      Very droll. For your next one, try the student trip to the Sun. They have to go at night, when it's cooler.

    • @ayushagarwal7631
      @ayushagarwal7631 3 года назад +18

      "iT Is LiGhT oUtSiDe DuE tO tHe SuN oNlY aNd ThE mOoN rEfLeCtS tHe LiGhT oF tHe SuN. tHe SuN iS tHe SoUrCe Of AlL EnErGy DuMbAsS"
      - Someone probably

    • @ileksoku
      @ileksoku 3 года назад +3

      Nicely done sir

    • @e1123581321345589144
      @e1123581321345589144 3 года назад +22

      @@ayushagarwal7631 there is much power in the light of the moon, for 'tis only under the pale silver light that we can unlock our true nature. The sun sits out more energy, yes. But it's energy is destructive to us. It interferes with he bio-chemical bounds which enables our transformation.
      - some werewolf

  • @michaos1
    @michaos1 3 года назад +7

    I truly like how you put your sponsor messages. It's even fun to watch so I won't skip.

  • @nickbaires2864
    @nickbaires2864 2 года назад

    Thanks from Buenos Aires Argentina. I subscribed to your channel. My calification is genius level. And the information you provide in this video is a guide to buy the better technology in solar cells to install in houses and facilities or even vehicles. This year I'm gonna buy a system to install in my house. Of course there are another components like batteries, charge regulators, power and voltage converters, large section diameter copper wires, installation in combination with public power supply.

  • @bullettube9863
    @bullettube9863 2 года назад +3

    I still have a solar cell I used on a crystal radio I made in high school in 1967, it's output is hilariously puny compared to the solar cells recharging the batteries on the garden lights on my balcony. But I learned the basics of both solar technology plus how radios worked. I later made my own transistor radio, I had to make the printed circuit board, install the transistors, and fit it all into a small plastic storage box. The speaker and battery were the biggest parts, plus some space set aside for the ear bud. It worked and a couple of years ago I took it out, installed a new battery and let my grand-daughter play with it. My question is, why did schools do away with industrial arts, or as we called it; shop?

    • @markchidester6239
      @markchidester6239 2 года назад +1

      I wish the highschool I went to had a program like that. I would most likely be in a better position now.

    • @BaltimoreAndOhioRR
      @BaltimoreAndOhioRR 2 года назад +2

      They had to make room for Gender Studies and Critical Race Theory, that's why.

    • @bullettube9863
      @bullettube9863 2 года назад

      @@BaltimoreAndOhioRR No that is not the reason. Critical race theory is not taught in high school, it is an optional course in college only. Too many people thought that the future was in computer use. I told the local board of education in 1980 that in the future everyone would be able to use their own computer and professionals would not be needed. They didn't listen to me and continued to teach data processing which soon became useless. While math and science are very important, not all students are Einsteins. History, music and art are also important, and kids should learn basic skills in using tools and how things work. Thankfully more and more schools are coming around to this idea and bringing back industrial arts and vocational training. AND in addition learning how to be tolerant of people who aren't like them.

    • @stopvoting4oldppl952
      @stopvoting4oldppl952 Год назад

      Education budgets keep getting cut. Your only gonna find shoo available in upper class neighborhoods and charter schools

  • @cdl0
    @cdl0 3 года назад +73

    N.B: selenium cells generate electricity by the photoelectric effect, which is not the same as a in a photodiode. An important factor not considered in this video is that silicon has an indirect bandgap; thus, the generation of an electron is necessarily accompanied by a phonon (lattice vibration) which represents another source of inefficiency. This is a fundamental property of the material which cannot be altered. Also note that oxygen is an intentional impurity in silicon made by the Czochralski method, which makes the wafers stronger. Without oxygen, large wafers would be too weak to handle during the manufacturing process.

    • @Blue1Sapphire
      @Blue1Sapphire 3 года назад +4

      If only I understood u.

    • @gamesbond2733
      @gamesbond2733 3 года назад +9

      @Renato A wtf ! We were taking about solar cells

    • @msb3235
      @msb3235 3 года назад +3

      Yup you're correct. That's why now we (Solar cell researchers) are moving on from Silicon based Solar Cell to 2nd Generation thin-film and 3rd Generation organic Perovskite Solar Cell. Both are direct bandgap and can be built thinner and more flexible.

    • @EXtREMeBuLLsHyTS
      @EXtREMeBuLLsHyTS 3 года назад +4

      @@msb3235 true. But the organics and perovskites are way too sensitive to atmospheric conditions. Exposure to the air and humidity instantly kills them. They need proper encapsulation which further reduces efficiency and increases cost and manufacturing complications. Inside labs these materials are only worked on in a glove box. Sadly we have yet to reach a breakthrough. Cuprous oxide was once thought of as a good candidate but seemed like that research direction is no longer present.

    • @cdl0
      @cdl0 3 года назад +1

      @@EXtREMeBuLLsHyTS & @MS_B Both true! It is a really tough problem. Silicon, as you well know, is cheap as chips, and it works, so if you have the space, then it is not a great hardship to add some extra solar panels to compensate for low efficiency.

  • @v.gedace1519
    @v.gedace1519 3 года назад +28

    Very nicely made video! Would like to give you a second thumb up for the fact that you clearly say that you have some missing knowledge to explain it 100%. This makes you likeable! And you explained it well enough to have now a much much better understanding whats going on in these cells! Thank you very much!

    • @gangleweed
      @gangleweed 2 года назад +1

      Yes, but without the complicated explanation of how the things work, the fact that they do work in large numbers even with some deficiencies means the future with them is still very bright.

  • @Dr_Larken
    @Dr_Larken 2 года назад

    As I collect the comments I notice the listener noting that to him realize that was also the best transition into the sponsor! It actually maintained my attention long enough to realize how awesome it was!

  • @chrisbusenkell
    @chrisbusenkell 2 года назад +1

    another great video, thanks so much for all your hard work. it is most appreciated.

  • @miked7923
    @miked7923 3 года назад +4

    I'm taking a solid state devices class right now and you are 100% correct in the fact that they assume you already know advanced topics and skip over steps.

  • @NotAverageAfro
    @NotAverageAfro 3 года назад +140

    Linus would like to know where you get your segways from.

    • @c.j.hatton
      @c.j.hatton 3 года назад +7

      he would haha

    • @snorttroll4379
      @snorttroll4379 3 года назад +1

      prolly not lttt store

    • @DeathBringer769
      @DeathBringer769 3 года назад +1

      The word is segue. "Segway" is just a type of brand of those auto-balancing "scooter" type things, lol.

    • @NotAverageAfro
      @NotAverageAfro 3 года назад

      @@DeathBringer769 Cheers

  • @TheRoidemortetfleur
    @TheRoidemortetfleur 3 года назад

    I saw one video that added groves. A row of plant then solar then plants. The sweating of the plants keeps the area cooler.
    similar to adding a fountain to an outside area

  • @richardmarkham8369
    @richardmarkham8369 2 года назад +1

    Great video. I learned a lot. No mention of the different crystal types in solar panels?

  • @thomaslebreuilly7891
    @thomaslebreuilly7891 3 года назад +46

    Great video, on an important topic applicable to the vast majority of currently available PV modules (mostly mono PERC). Just a small correction : typical LID of modern PV modules is 2%, meaning that after initial sunsoaking the PV module performance would be 98% of its initial one. So 98% of the initial ~20% efficiency. Which means a 0,4% decrease of efficiency, not 2% decrease. In terms of energy production the loss due to LID is then 2% and not 10%.

    • @foxyvisionsvideographer
      @foxyvisionsvideographer Год назад

      that's right, just after 30 years it reduces to 18%

    • @deus_ex_machina_
      @deus_ex_machina_ Год назад

      @Randy Alvarado But that drop-off is almost certainly not linear, is it? That doesn't really mesh with what we see elsewhere.

    • @thomaswinstonmontague9272
      @thomaswinstonmontague9272 Год назад

      @@deus_ex_machina_ The loss is .5% of the remaining efficiency, meaning multiply .5% times the current year's efficiency, and subtract that amount to get the next year's efficiency. So it is exponential decay, not linear.

    • @thomaswinstonmontague9272
      @thomaswinstonmontague9272 Год назад

      @@randyalvarado6401 The solar expert meant to say "the panels would have 50% of their initial efficiency" or they would be only half as efficient as when they were new.

  • @jessecooper9093
    @jessecooper9093 3 года назад +113

    That was a masterclass in how to transition into an ad. Hooked me so well I wasn't even upset I had just watched an ad, not gonna lie.

    • @davidbruce2159
      @davidbruce2159 3 года назад +2

      Commercial solar power is a CANCER on the planet. The technology when paired with the use of FAKE money causes a wealth transfer from the working class to the elite class. Be careful of what you wish for.

    • @davidbruce2159
      @davidbruce2159 3 года назад +3

      @@zucadasilva937 Solar panels cause Toxic waste during their manufacture. The resources that go into the manufacture and installation of solar panels, require mining companies to pollute and burn hydro carbons, like diesel and gasoline. The mining companies dig holes that don't need to be dug. The panels have a 25 year operating life span, then part of the solar panel ends up in the land fill forever. YUCK, I don't like toxic waste.

    • @listerdave1240
      @listerdave1240 3 года назад +1

      Perhaps you need to compare that toxic waste against the amount of toxic waste that is prevented by reducing the amount of electricity that needs to be generated by other means.

    • @davidbruce2159
      @davidbruce2159 3 года назад

      @@listerdave1240 Let's not forget that the main ingredient, silica, is made by Mining high purity quarts and mixing it with coking coal, and then firing the mixture in a electric blast Furness. I also submit that the thermo/electrical energy consumed is also greater that the pannel will ever produce in the pannels life cycle. You people need to come to your senses. You are destroying the planet when think that your helping it.

    • @listerdave1240
      @listerdave1240 3 года назад +10

      @@davidbruce2159 I think you may need to recheck and/or update your calculations with regards to how much energy PVs produce compared to the energy needed to produce them. What you state would have been true about forty to fifty years ago. Today it takes well under a year for a typical PV to offset its carbon footprint.
      Also, if you were to consider the carbon footprint of building a standard thermal power plant (coal/oil/gas) you will find that even building the thermal plant has a higher carbon footprint per megawatt of capacity even before it starts consuming fuel to produce electricity. Thermal power plants need vast amount of steel, concrete and other materials produced in blast furnaces, kilns and such.
      The only issue with solar panels is that they currently only offer a partial solution and therefore can only be used to substitute part of the fossil fuel production rather than all of it. That is likely to change very soon though with the introduction of liquid metal batteries and possibly other storage systems.

  • @101personal
    @101personal 2 года назад

    Great video. I am subscribing to Brilliant thanks to your sharing of your learning progress needed to make this video. Thanks again

  • @tomwebster2494
    @tomwebster2494 2 года назад

    Superb video and what a fantastic advert for Brilliant. I've never been tempted to actually look into a sponsor before, but I'm heading to the Brilliant website now.

  • @sharpfang
    @sharpfang 3 года назад +161

    Intro ends at 12:40. Sponsored message starts 14:20. meaning there's 1:40 of actual content in this almost 17-minute video. That means this video has under 10% efficiency.

    • @killthemwithfirelol
      @killthemwithfirelol 3 года назад +5

      @Pete is never wrong not an achievement in the slightest.

    • @killthemwithfirelol
      @killthemwithfirelol 3 года назад +1

      @Pete is never wrong nope

    • @killthemwithfirelol
      @killthemwithfirelol 3 года назад +3

      @Pete is never wrong your coping mechanism is idiotic.

    • @graveripper69
      @graveripper69 3 года назад +4

      Just unsubscribed!

    • @killthemwithfirelol
      @killthemwithfirelol 3 года назад +3

      @Pete is never wrong You could make infinite responses and it'll be the same as if there were zero, the only difference being the amount of your brain damage on display.

  • @shaqibkhan5392
    @shaqibkhan5392 3 года назад +8

    10:45 slight correction here, actually electrons move from n-type to p-type and also from +ve terminal to -ve terminal. What you have shown is direction of flow of current, electron flow is in reverse direction of current flow.

    • @w0ttheh3ll
      @w0ttheh3ll 3 года назад +1

      actually the animation shows exactly what you just described.

  • @DrakeyC
    @DrakeyC 2 года назад +1

    Excellent video, I appreciate the in-depth explanation of how solar panels work. My takeaway is that another area we should look at; if the grid-design for solar cells is causing an 8% loss of efficiency, then we're only tapping 2/3rds the power we could from solar cells. A more economic way to create more efficient patterns for the metal could be a solution, but perhaps a conductive material that is semi-transparent could also reduce the loss. Of course, I'm no engineer or scientist, etc., so I've no idea if the latter could even be done.

    • @waylandsmith
      @waylandsmith 2 года назад

      It's 8% of the total 80% loss, not 8% of the 20% remainder. So improving it would definitely be of value, but would not reduce efficiency losses by 1/3rd as you imply. And there do exist transparent conductive films (TCFs) but what's holding them back from wide usage in PV cells are cost, but apparently that is improving.

    • @DrakeyC
      @DrakeyC 2 года назад

      @@waylandsmith That's what I meant with the 2/3rds comment - if we could tap that 8% successfully, we'd achieve 28% total efficiency, compared to 20% now.

    • @jimmyhack7336
      @jimmyhack7336 2 года назад

      Some high efficiency solar cells get around this problem by putting all of the metal grid on the back side. But this doesn't work if you also want to collect light that hits the back side (which is becoming more popular). There is also a lot of work using transparent conducting materials, but most silicon cells still use a metal grid.

  • @hairyhothead3006
    @hairyhothead3006 Год назад +1

    We are currently looking into covering our roof with solar panels, apparently you can buy solar panels that are cooled, which in combination with a heat pump can also contribute to heating the home for a significant amount.

    • @iHelpSolveIt
      @iHelpSolveIt Год назад +1

      Hybrid panels also help keep the panels cool, this improves the solar panel efficiency. Remember to get individually rectified panels, smaller cells also help when panels fail and to cover more of the roof

  • @marcozorzi6770
    @marcozorzi6770 3 года назад +44

    20% efficiency is for panels installed on a dual axis solar tracker. In a fixed position installation a realistic efficiency conversion rate is around 14% , taking into account the incident angle modifiers, plus losses due to external temperature, cables and inverter.

    • @lorenwilson8128
      @lorenwilson8128 3 года назад +2

      All solar cells underperform their stated (nameplate) power generation rate. Typical actual production rates are about half of what the solar cell is rated to produce. This does not include the fact that they only work about half the time. They also slowly degrade over time. While they are appropriate in locations where more reliable power is expensive (islands without fossil fuel resources) they are still much more expensive than a gas turbine or coal-fired power plant.

    • @pbajaj
      @pbajaj 3 года назад +3

      the 14% is history long ago. panels are now delivering 19% efficiency on static/fixed tilt systems.

    • @marcozorzi6770
      @marcozorzi6770 3 года назад +1

      Prem Bajaj sure, this could be possible using a premium brand and panels that are at the top of the range, which possess the best efficiency rate, low degradation over time and longer longevity. Certainly these premiums come to a higher capital costs compared to the average panel used in commercial applications.

    • @marcozorzi6770
      @marcozorzi6770 3 года назад +1

      Loren Wilson good points! We have come a long way but we certainly need to improve their quality, conversion efficiency and reliability! Let’s hope we can achieve that in the near future as we really need to move away from all forms of fossil fuels.

    • @pbajaj
      @pbajaj 3 года назад +1

      @@marcozorzi6770 Hi Marco. Knowing fully well a 25 year production outlook. and minor variance in price/kw, but much superior efficiency and generation, lower degradation levels - think the price setoff on cheaper panels doesn't cut the objective of transition for those getting later into the market. Lets not forget, todays market, installing poly 300-330W panels, is already a 5 year old technology (why carry forward another 25?). Surely there are regions where they can be utilised - but not in enterprising / dynamic economies. This' like continuing sales of ICE vehicles thru till natural downfall - which just may not happen?

  • @timmonapier8832
    @timmonapier8832 3 года назад +3

    You are a great advert for the course. Thank you for taking the time and effort to produce this vid.

  • @ronnyvbk
    @ronnyvbk 2 года назад

    There is a belgian company ilumen selling the PID box that reverses the degradation process, it has to stay in the circuit and regularly applies some reverse voltage on the cells to refresh them to factory state and avoids the efficiency drop.

  • @mcpr5971
    @mcpr5971 8 месяцев назад

    Can you capitalize on the heat by a secondary system that used a thermocouple? Every panel creates shade which is cooler than the panel. Or if you isolated the hot and shaded sides using a tube, in these massive installations you might be able to run a turbine and harvest a bit more power.

  • @KemoTherapy69
    @KemoTherapy69 3 года назад +332

    Answer: night bad, day good

    • @spartendeath
      @spartendeath 3 года назад +19

      Well something has to be bad for another to be identified as good.

    • @Marahute0
      @Marahute0 3 года назад +7

      You replied with a snarky comment without even watching the video. That makes you seem less smart, not more smart.

    • @omarakhtar3075
      @omarakhtar3075 3 года назад +12

      Actually, vampires and other nocturnal species think night good, day bad. It's a matter of perspective my friend

    • @satelliteprime
      @satelliteprime 3 года назад +16

      @@Marahute0 It was a joke. A simple silly joke, you walking humor deficiency. You seem to be having either a very bad day or are very insecure, but I do hope your day improves if it's the former. Hopefully if it does you'll stop policing comment sections for inaccuracies or lighthearted humor like an anemic, constipated killjoy.

    • @gnomsrepnay
      @gnomsrepnay 3 года назад +3

      @@satelliteprime the comment isn't the answer though...

  • @stevenalcantara1451
    @stevenalcantara1451 3 года назад +5

    I can feel the satisfaction from how you first said the energy (Si = 1.1eV) needed to push out an electron from it’s valence band to it’s conduction band then, later revealed that it was a surprise to you when you first read “band gap”. ❤️💯
    For those asking, a simple explanation of band gap is the distance (in terms of energy) of the valence band to the conduction band. Think of the valence band as the ground state of an electron around an atom and conduction band is when that electron is energized out of the shell “ENOUGH” for us to be able to use it.

  • @jimgraham6722
    @jimgraham6722 2 года назад

    Thankyou. I have noticed my solar panels get lighter in colour as they age. It seems UV is bleaching them. That said I have found they get twenty years useful service at 80%+ rated power. They do accumulate damage though. Hail, lightning (both flash and strikes) cracked wafers and cracked covering glass, corroded frames take their toll. By twenty five years most have a fair bit of damage and need replacing.
    My oldest panels still working are thirty years old. I have one that is thirty five years now being used as top of a coffee table.

  • @syntaxmsi
    @syntaxmsi 2 года назад +7

    This is a terrific video. You have a talent for explaining complex concepts very clearly. Thank you!

  • @castsmith6783
    @castsmith6783 3 года назад +52

    Well i guess we shouldn't take this problem "lightly"

  • @mohammadaghajani7666
    @mohammadaghajani7666 3 года назад +69

    Now that's some futuristic happening right there
    Just how will it look 5 years from now...
    Awesome as always

    • @hshs5756
      @hshs5756 3 года назад

      Five years from now commercialized installations of the SAFIRE Project will have begun to render large solar panel farms uncompetitive. Small solar devices will remain valuable for their portability, but solar panels to feed the grid will be a footnote. ruclips.net/video/7GFFfmBGb5U/видео.html

    • @VinceroAlpha
      @VinceroAlpha 3 года назад +1

      @@hshs5756 Although the SAFIRE Project looks promising and I hope it makes it to the market, you're assumption that this will render large scale solar farms "obsolete" is incorrect. There are an exponential number of factors that you haven't considered and are jumping to conclusions. SAFIRE is still going the the testing phase and while it has demonstrated a working proof of concept that the technology works, it still has many more tests and hurdles to see if it's commercially viable. Will it be actually be cost effective to build or will it be like the petroleum industry in which the FOP (Factors of Production) keep the costs high and the only way to turn a profit is to constantly produce energy which would put unnecessary strain on the reactor. Years of safety tests and demonstrations still need to be done to ensure potential investors, governments and the average person that this is a technology that is genuinely safe for us to use. Then there is the regulations that will have to be created to protect which ever countries implement this technology. Which also address the elephant in the room, those who would see this technology not come on to market and change the status quo via political entrepreneurship( If you can't innovate, legislate basically). Also, you think solar technology will just stand still or become more efficient at the current pace? As technology gets more advanced, so does the implementation of it and while SAFIRE will probably gain traction, keep in mind that solar technology already has that same tech advancement edge plus the benefit of being available to the masses. Is SAFIRE better as a central technology similar to coal plants as the focus on the grid? Or can their be regional smaller power plants located within city limits? Because many average people will interpret it as the current electric company monopolies as a way of keeping their power over them.
      I'm not saying I hope SAFIRE fails, I've just seen a lot of "game chaining energy sources" not come to market because a whole host of factors people never considered.

    • @Buran01
      @Buran01 3 года назад

      @@hshs5756 Let me guess, they are asking funds to produce their reactors...

    • @hshs5756
      @hshs5756 3 года назад +1

      @@Buran01 Actually, SAFIRE is extremely well-funded already. There's no shortage of big-money backers who can see where this is going.

    • @hshs5756
      @hshs5756 3 года назад

      @@VinceroAlpha Watch the recent documentary _Planet of the Humans_ and pay particular attention to the solar segments of it, keeping in mind that the film was made by a life-long environmentalist and alternative energy backer. I seriously examined putting solar on my house a year ago until it became apparent that the numbers were not there. The systems are too expensive and have too short a lifespan to even begin to compete with coal-fired grid electricity. Every new technology has teething problems and I expect that for plasma energy. But solar (and wind, and biomass) have had years to work out their problems and so far can't even prove they have a positive EROEI.

  • @jazmynkizzar4713
    @jazmynkizzar4713 Год назад

    Thank you so much for citing where you got your information from!

  • @Redsson56
    @Redsson56 3 года назад

    Great job. I am also an Engineer and am a believer when serious technical resources are applied in several places consistently there will be progress. Apparently more than $200B/yr will be spent on photovoltaic by 2026. Question: how much land area will be dedicated to solar energy?

  • @Lostsage01
    @Lostsage01 3 года назад +13

    Great video, and this has been a strange problem. Although I would add that the biggest issue with solar power isn’t panel efficiency (although improving it would certainly help) but actually storage technology since power production is intermittent throughout the day. If we can develop a better battery that doesn’t have the limitations of lithium ion tech, etc., that would allow us to to build economical utility-grade storage plants that could supply on-demand power needs at all hours. Until then, the limiting factor of a 100% renewable grid in the US is still the need for stable baseload power, which means either fossil fuel sources or nuclear.

    • @1SmokedTurkey1
      @1SmokedTurkey1 2 года назад +3

      Yep. I'm an Electrical Engineer. We care less about efficiency and more about storage when it comes to practical applications. After all, batteries are much more expensive than solar panels and solar panels are efficient enough these days.

    • @elgracko
      @elgracko 2 года назад

      what about using all that surface area to sandwich an insulating material between two conductors to create a parallel plate capacitor behind the solar panel?

  • @daalhead1098
    @daalhead1098 3 года назад +64

    "The problem solving website that teaches you to think like an engineer" - oh man, great! I really want to get a buzz out of writing a risk analysis of breathing

    • @googiegress7459
      @googiegress7459 3 года назад +5

      A risk analysis of risk analyses will really shut them up though

    • @1SmokedTurkey1
      @1SmokedTurkey1 2 года назад +3

      Think like an engineer= develop anxiety and overthink everything. Not recommended.

    • @bernardwatts5339
      @bernardwatts5339 2 года назад

      Risk analysis on breathing. Have you ever worn a mask in a dusty environment?

    • @xiro6
      @xiro6 2 года назад

      I hope Engineers know a loss from 20% to 18% is not a 10% loss. 01:00

    • @PersonalTrainerLamar
      @PersonalTrainerLamar Год назад

      @@xiro6 Not an engineer (just a thinker), but I'm thinking that would be a 2% loss...
      But I also completely understood what he was getting at, and isn't THAT what truly matters in our interactions with one another (not nitpicking innocuous malaprop or semantic paraphasia)?

  • @dieselhead24
    @dieselhead24 3 года назад +13

    The smoothest and most seamless transition into a sales plug I have ever witnessed. Simply ... BRILLIANT

  • @nharlow_4303
    @nharlow_4303 2 года назад

    I cannot get over how smooth that sponsor transition was. (Seriously, though, I'm actually considering trying Brilliant.)

  • @nicodiveira
    @nicodiveira 3 года назад +5

    What an amazing video. I'm an Electrical Engineer and I did a course during my graduation about photovoltaic energy generation and yet I didn't knew about all of this theorical limitations of the so photovoltaic cells. I use to thought that the low efficiency was due to technological limitations. So, can we all agree that fission nuclear power plants are the best way to produce clean energy by far?

  • @uss_04
    @uss_04 3 года назад +13

    Feels like we’re going to have a major reckoning when PV panels have to be recycled. Electrification is great but there are a lot of intermediate steps to take place

    • @FloryJohann
      @FloryJohann 3 года назад +4

      Don't have to worry for another 40 years or so.
      glass and crystalline and the frame can be recycled and the back coating may also find a way to be reused.

    • @sladeoriginal
      @sladeoriginal 3 года назад +3

      reckoning already here. you wont hear the negative side of all the wasted materials, it heresy to speak against renewables.

    • @sladeoriginal
      @sladeoriginal 3 года назад +1

      @@FloryJohann you make it sound so simple. solar panels have been helping fill landfills for the past 15 years. cheaper to make new.

    • @motor2of7
      @motor2of7 3 года назад +1

      The same reckoning is coming for all the electric vehicle batteries

    • @m2heavyindustries378
      @m2heavyindustries378 3 года назад

      @BRAVOZULU DWEST boathouse Nice boat boomer, why don't you go and complain about your exwife on a fucking gold course

  • @johnduff-tytler3548
    @johnduff-tytler3548 2 года назад

    The brilliance of your knowledge being passed down to us , is astounding and beyond being one.s capacity.

  • @brianmuhlingBUM
    @brianmuhlingBUM 2 года назад

    YOU'RE MAKING IT UP!
    WOW! I could not believe the complexity of PVC until I watched this great or should I say BRILLIANT explanation. It is well above my intelligence.
    Here in Western Australia the uptake of PVC's is huge because of our many hours of cloud-free daylight each year. Soon all new houses, factories and offices will have PVC energy. Regretfully, I won't be around to see it happen ..but it will?

  • @shreysharma726
    @shreysharma726 3 года назад +37

    smoothest transition brilliant ad ever .....

    • @mikerobertson6663
      @mikerobertson6663 3 года назад

      They got me too!

    • @iwantitpaintedblack
      @iwantitpaintedblack 3 года назад

      its as if the band gap between Videoband and Adband is decreasing, video is doped with Ad. its nice for new comers but someone whos an old subscriber not earning shit and unable to pay for such things and seeing it on every video its kinda annoying.

  • @mikaxms
    @mikaxms 3 года назад +81

    Are you going to revisit Nikola after what has happened recently?

    • @caorusso4926
      @caorusso4926 3 года назад +10

      What happen? Did the bubble burst? Or they are a scam?

    • @RealEngineering
      @RealEngineering  3 года назад +84

      Maybe. The video's information is still accurate. This is an engineering channel, so I don't really know what I could add to the conversation. I avoided talking about Trevor Milton in the video, despite my apprehension about the guy.

    • @mikaxms
      @mikaxms 3 года назад +25

      @@caorusso4926 Yeah the bubble bursted. Stocks are way down and Trevor Milton stepped down as ceo.

    • @PrograError
      @PrograError 3 года назад +16

      @@caorusso4926 a "scam" was discovered.

    • @arnefines2356
      @arnefines2356 3 года назад +11

      @@RealEngineering Most might be accurate. But there are many relevant issues brought up in the comments, that you have decided not to address. Limits on weight vs volume where storeing hydrogen fx.
      I understand that the feedback was overwhelming, but still there are so many comments that goes directly to the engineering there.

  • @bob_greene
    @bob_greene 3 года назад

    this is a good video to explain transistor construction, too (n-type & p-type topic)

  • @adihus67
    @adihus67 2 года назад

    Very nice and clear explanation.
    Thanks a lot. God bless you.