Radeon RX 7900 GRE, Now With Memory Overclocking!

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  • Опубликовано: 2 фев 2025

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  • @chj8010
    @chj8010 10 месяцев назад +1521

    Radeon RX 7900 G'RE' RE-RE-RE-'RE'VIEW

    • @diamonshade7484
      @diamonshade7484 10 месяцев назад +35

      Let's go 😂

    • @mastoner573
      @mastoner573 10 месяцев назад +46

      Where 7900 stands for the amount of re reviews

    • @AndyViant
      @AndyViant 10 месяцев назад +59

      GRE = Gigantic amount of REviews

    • @nekogami87
      @nekogami87 10 месяцев назад +7

      G being the 7th letter of the alphabet, probably 7 review in total, it all make sense ! [tinfoil hat off]

    • @InnuendoXP
      @InnuendoXP 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@AndyViant Giga-REview, they ain't done yet

  • @devjitdutta5670
    @devjitdutta5670 10 месяцев назад +261

    I ordered the Sapphire Pure 7900 GRE yesterday. I was torn between this and the 7800 XT but I’m glad that I went with the GRE at $500.

    • @otakuchan3173
      @otakuchan3173 10 месяцев назад +50

      same here bro.. I'm so happy I waited for the GRE, just $50 diff for huge perf gap.. I'm going for the Sapphire nitro + version

    • @xgearheart8592
      @xgearheart8592 10 месяцев назад +31

      Where did y'all get it for 500$?

    • @devjitdutta5670
      @devjitdutta5670 10 месяцев назад

      @@otakuchan3173 I think the nitro plus will cost you a bit more than a standard one but the cooler on the nitro plus is just insane…..you won’t regret the purchase

    • @devjitdutta5670
      @devjitdutta5670 10 месяцев назад

      @@xgearheart8592 wait for some discounts…Microcenter frequently has discounts on their end but you won’t get the nitro plus or the hellhound at $500.

    • @roki977
      @roki977 10 месяцев назад +4

      Pulse is not Nitro

  • @bulutcagdas1071
    @bulutcagdas1071 10 месяцев назад +553

    The 7900 GRE, the gift that keeps on giving.

    • @NeverSettleForMediocrity
      @NeverSettleForMediocrity 10 месяцев назад +20

      600 euro ? what a gift...

    • @nipa5961
      @nipa5961 10 месяцев назад +80

      Best card this generation with this new driver and a little overclock.

    • @BlackParade01
      @BlackParade01 10 месяцев назад +4

      I would genuinely consider this card but I need an Nvidia card.....

    • @OnlyAnOpinion20
      @OnlyAnOpinion20 10 месяцев назад

      @@NeverSettleForMediocrity 560 euro for a Sapphire pulse on Mindfactory, find me a card for that price offering this kind of performance??

    • @bulutcagdas1071
      @bulutcagdas1071 10 месяцев назад +12

      @@NeverSettleForMediocrity I was half joking with the RUclips channel, as Steve got to make, I believe 3 or 4 videos out of this card alone :D Price wise, it will ofcourse depend on your region but generally speaking the 7800 XT seems to be the sweet spot.

  • @mrmarecki1
    @mrmarecki1 10 месяцев назад +172

    I miss the times when AIBs could just give cards different memory chips, with 24 Gbps it would be a beast for a minor price premium.

    • @kawafahra
      @kawafahra 10 месяцев назад +33

      RDNA3 is also massively more restricted BIOS wise.
      RDNA2 with Red Bios Tool would let you try anything.
      RDNA3, everything hardlocked, completely sealed from the getgo except for Wattman.

    • @vigilant_1934
      @vigilant_1934 10 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@kawafahraI wonder if it has to do with chiplet power consumption? RDNA 4 should be monolithic so maybe it'll have the same customization options as RDNA 2.

    • @filas312
      @filas312 10 месяцев назад +7

      ​@@vigilant_1934 more likely RDNA3 is locked down with crypto security for BIOS etc. so that AMD can show due dilligence with export lockdowns regards peformance etc.

    • @Jasontvnd9
      @Jasontvnd9 7 месяцев назад +1

      Why would having 24gb improve it?
      16GB is plenty on what is a 1440p card.

    • @prycenewberg3976
      @prycenewberg3976 7 месяцев назад +11

      @@Jasontvnd9 I think you may have misread OP. He said, '24 Gbps' which means twenty-four Gigabits-per-second. Not Gigabytes. He was referencing the memory speed, not its amount.

  • @Tainted79
    @Tainted79 10 месяцев назад +799

    Can we all just acknowledge, how messed up the naming of this generation of cards are from both companies.

    • @Eleganttf2
      @Eleganttf2 10 месяцев назад +11

      Indeed

    • @Birdman._.
      @Birdman._. 10 месяцев назад +35

      The difference between 4070 and 4070 super is bigger than the difference between rtx 3080 and rtx 3090
      I doubt it's bad tho lmao

    • @decorator21
      @decorator21 10 месяцев назад +67

      Nope, it's not messed up. It's just corporate greed.
      7800xt should be named 7800 (like 6800)
      7900gre should be named 7800xt
      AMD pushed the core count down for a higher price. Same like Nvidia. I have 7800xt and sometimes this card is slower than 6800xt.

    • @vmafarah9473
      @vmafarah9473 10 месяцев назад +10

      GRE- G0LDEN "RABID" EDITION 😆

    • @Peter.H.A.Petersen
      @Peter.H.A.Petersen 10 месяцев назад +25

      I don't give a s... about the names, they can call them whatever!. It's the prices that makes them bad value ...

  • @Nexx
    @Nexx 10 месяцев назад +37

    The hightlighted result bars are such a great quality of life. Good stuff!

    • @iikatinggangsengii2471
      @iikatinggangsengii2471 7 месяцев назад

      can we stop doing 'hurt others to prove my point' method been done here, its a very low and bad practice no one even should do, but its normalized nowadays

  • @romuluxb
    @romuluxb 10 месяцев назад +180

    That does it, the 7900GRE with unlocked memory OC is THE best value on offer for mid to high end gaming shoppers, great sweet spot from AMD!
    Mind you the 7900XT is only 7 8% faster with the 7900GRE OC in mind, you can save alot of cash for a very close performer!

    • @otakuchan3173
      @otakuchan3173 10 месяцев назад +5

      agree bro

    • @matheussantos9367
      @matheussantos9367 10 месяцев назад +14

      Yeah, got mine for only $30 more than the 7800XT Nitro+, definitely a good deal

    • @leonro
      @leonro 10 месяцев назад +30

      It depends a bit on how the 7800XT and 7900XT overclock, because comparing stock to overclock is pretty stupid. Still, they won't go nearly as high as the 7900GRE, given that this GPU uses the same VRAM chips but clocks them lower. I assume that the original Chinese launch used lower quality chips and AMD kept the clocks the same in order to not create yet another new SKU.

    • @GoolagCEO
      @GoolagCEO 10 месяцев назад +2

      I bought the 7800 XT Nitro+ some time ago. Now I'm sad that I didn't wait a bit longer, 7900 gre will pull ahead on 4K games that aren't bottlenecked by memory maybe 15-20%
      but 1440p and bellow its more like 10% if you compare Nitro+ models

    • @matheussantos9367
      @matheussantos9367 10 месяцев назад +11

      @@leonro it’s a great card bro, no reason to be sad! Enjoy your rig!

  • @jinmail3294
    @jinmail3294 10 месяцев назад +4

    Thanks to the video, I ordered Powercolor Hellhound RX 7900 GRE OC for my wife yesterday! I'm so excited for it to arrive!

  • @ramez3
    @ramez3 10 месяцев назад +254

    Imagine this 550 dollars gpu overclocked is same performance as freaking 800 gpu in 4 k thats insane thats why overclock is sometimes worth it good video !!❤

    • @Jtq-y4n
      @Jtq-y4n 10 месяцев назад +27

      Prices have fallen for 7900xt but yes it is quite a leap. Would be interested to see OC potential of 7900xt.

    • @12coco100
      @12coco100 10 месяцев назад

      ​​@@Jtq-y4n I have a 7900xt too. I'm curious on how much performance I could get outta this

    • @NeverSettleForMediocrity
      @NeverSettleForMediocrity 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@12coco100minimal you already saw the review

    • @vishalpal1200
      @vishalpal1200 10 месяцев назад

      @@12coco100 You can check techpowerup review for your specific model. The sapphire pulse model gets around a 12% perf increase. Which would make it similar to a 4080 super in rasterization and within 10% of 7900 xtx. Still impressive I’d say considering it has dropped to around 700$

    • @abibirawa4119
      @abibirawa4119 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@Jtq-y4n maybe he meant the rtx 4070 ti super

  • @cairnex4473
    @cairnex4473 10 месяцев назад +618

    Never underestimate the Radeon division's ability to shoot themselves in the foot...

    • @Hardware1906
      @Hardware1906 10 месяцев назад +16

      well, amd x3d cpu also shoot back at amd non 3d cpu in term of gaming performance, i guess amd shooting themselves is something common

    • @InnuendoXP
      @InnuendoXP 10 месяцев назад +38

      @@Hardware1906 yeah but in the CPU market the DIY gaming market is a sideshow, and aside from the brief release of the 5600X3D, they aren't undercutting any of their own stack with the 3D Vcache models on price except for the high core count models which don't benefit gaming anyway.

    • @sinom
      @sinom 10 месяцев назад +54

      ​@@Hardware1906at least in that case the foot shooting is pro consumer though

    • @thestoicwhinger
      @thestoicwhinger 10 месяцев назад +32

      These copy paste comments are lame af

    • @cosmicusstardust3300
      @cosmicusstardust3300 10 месяцев назад +4

      For a company that is over 50 years old you would think by now they would approach things in a less amateur way lol

  • @Kodi_Nikola
    @Kodi_Nikola 10 месяцев назад +114

    Can we just take a second to appreciate that the GRE is trading blows with the 4070ti in many cases?
    It's matching a card that costs 150usd more on average. (Which is a bit like the original 7900xtx vs 4080 situation but with a higher discrepancy in price percentage-wise)

    • @ZeroZingo
      @ZeroZingo 10 месяцев назад +8

      Either compare stock to stock, or overclock to overclock...

    • @nipa5961
      @nipa5961 10 месяцев назад +61

      It even ties the 4070TiS in 4k which is 280€ more expensive.
      The 7900GRE is by far the best card this generation now.

    • @geekmechanic1473
      @geekmechanic1473 10 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@ZeroZingomy problem with oc is that some cards will do it better than others and as such not reliable

    • @Glubbdubdrib
      @Glubbdubdrib 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@geekmechanic1473even then, with OCing, you gotta hit the silicon lottery. Not every 7900GRE will overclock the same. I remember when I was into OCing with the 2080ti and my buddy’s card would fall behind a little bit when we would do the same stuff.

    • @PineyJustice
      @PineyJustice 10 месяцев назад +14

      @@GlubbdubdribEvery RDNA3 card I know of with my friends, as well as mine overclock very well, RDNA2 overclocks like a demon too. Second, this is memory overclocking, the 7900gre comes with the vram clocked very slow, getting it up to a way more reasonable speed is basically guaranteed overclocking

  • @James-lz6eh
    @James-lz6eh 10 месяцев назад +5

    Made my day since I ordered one this weekend in anticipation of the fix!

  • @Lazarosaliths
    @Lazarosaliths 10 месяцев назад +197

    Can't wait for the
    "2025 one year review of RX 7900 GRE"
    And the upcoming:
    *2028 looking back at RX 7900 GRE review "

    • @florianradu7750
      @florianradu7750 9 месяцев назад +3

      Yes, looking back on the 12GB buffer of the 4070 series, like nvidia destroyed the 3070 series.

  • @Jojo_Tolentino
    @Jojo_Tolentino 10 месяцев назад +329

    AMD knew putting 20Gbps memories on the GRE would cannibalize the RX 7900XT

    • @flimermithrandir
      @flimermithrandir 10 месяцев назад +35

      Yeah thats the really sad Thing i see as well. Many ppl are liking this because they can Overclock now and yes… thats cool i guess but like… the Issue really is that this was done by Design… and thats really not a great Thing. Its not as worse with just plainly not giving enough VRAM to begin with but its still kinda BS.

    • @leonro
      @leonro 10 месяцев назад +65

      ​@@flimermithrandirEh, it was standard practice in the past to release inferior variants of products that could get overclocked to a higher end part. Heck, back in the day, AMD's three core Phenoms could often have their disabled 4th core unlocked via software. I don't see this as a bad thing.

    • @skilletpan5674
      @skilletpan5674 10 месяцев назад +32

      ​@@flimermithrandirit wasn't made for the western market. The GRE is a chinese domestic market product. Asian markets are highly dollar consious. Even $10 to $50 price difference can influence buying decisions. Also the import issues/bans from the USA influenced the card.
      The other reason is this is clearly a card that has throwaway/defective/subpar chips in it. It's better for AMD and the consumer to be given a cheaper alternative to the 7900XT than not.

    • @tuckerhiggins4336
      @tuckerhiggins4336 10 месяцев назад

      Not enough of them exist for that to be true

    • @happybuggy1582
      @happybuggy1582 10 месяцев назад

      nah its a bug

  • @Qvcpvc909
    @Qvcpvc909 10 месяцев назад +27

    In my country it's pretty much the same price as 7800xt, I didn't know the 7900gre existed 😮

  • @GewelReal
    @GewelReal 10 месяцев назад +217

    It's so weird to me that they limited the GDDR6 speed to 18Gbps out of the box, when all GDDR6 chips today easily hit 20Gbps

    • @petrkubena
      @petrkubena 10 месяцев назад +67

      price. even memory chips are being binned. they could've easily bought some not-quite good enough memory chips for very low price and used them for this product. after all this is that kind of product made of (highend) scraps.

    • @stevenwest1494
      @stevenwest1494 10 месяцев назад +33

      All the rumours are pointing at RDNA 4, using only GDDR6, and not even 6X. I think AMD are just doing what comes naturally to them and holding the hammer by the head and wondering why the handle hits so poorly.

    • @DragonOfTheMortalKombat
      @DragonOfTheMortalKombat 10 месяцев назад +10

      Especially given that this GPU is limited by memory bandwidth. Should have used 20Gbps or better out of the box for optimal performance.

    • @Jtq-y4n
      @Jtq-y4n 10 месяцев назад +18

      4060 Ti does the same thing. No clue why, maybe they deemed the performance too high with 20gbps.

    • @bulutcagdas1071
      @bulutcagdas1071 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@stevenwest1494 lmao

  • @filas312
    @filas312 10 месяцев назад +85

    IT IS NECESSARY TO POINT OUT that there are multiple reports of 7900GRE not handling memory speed over 2400MHz (mine included), despite memory chips being specced at 2500MHz, so YMMV. This might be a good question to ask AMD whether they binned the Navi chips based on Mem Controller quality or not.

    • @olereimers4623
      @olereimers4623 10 месяцев назад +19

      im pushing 2540mhz on mine now. a Sapphire Radeon RX 7900 GRE NITRO+. have not had time to try and push i farther. also running undervolt on it at 950mV

    • @MyHeIl
      @MyHeIl 10 месяцев назад +17

      Yup. I have Sapphire Pulse, and after 2414MHz it becomes highly unstable, resulting in PC restarts and game freeze. No matter what I do (lowering core clock, undervolt). Cross the 2414MHz and my card is done. The adrenaline safe VRAM test indicates that the safe OC is 2390MHz, and the card is fine when using that speed.

    • @NootNoot.
      @NootNoot. 10 месяцев назад +8

      What card do you have? Some are reporting not being able to OC much due to Samsung memory vs Hynix

    • @flipntap09
      @flipntap09 10 месяцев назад +4

      set mine at 2590mhz and it averages at 2577mhz. Anymore than that, any game and benchmarking tools crashes. Hellhound gre

    • @filas312
      @filas312 10 месяцев назад +7

      @@NootNoot. Steel Legend from AsRock, I'll look for chip name in GPU-Z later. According to TPU Review, Samsung is also specced ar 2500MHz but I cannot set over 2400...

  • @TheGympert
    @TheGympert 3 месяца назад +6

    I went from Intel and Nvidia to a new complete AMD build and I don't regret it at all. Did a complete white build and got the Sapphire RX 7900 GRE PURE and this card is really a beast for it's price. Undervolt it , overclock the memory and you will get so much raw power. I personally don't really care about RT, frame generation or upscaling. This cars is supposed to be a 1440p card but I play almost all my single player (open world) games @4k at high settings and 60fps. I'm really impressed by this card for it's prize. I also don't have to worry about fps in my competitve games at all. You can easily hit the refresh rate of ur monitor with this card. Also the cooling on this card is very impressive. it never ran above 69 degress celsius and I have never ever heared the fans of my gpu. My system is completly silent. I build this system for 1300 euro (with a ryzen 7600x ) and it's a great 4k build not 1440p!!

    • @danilo6992
      @danilo6992 2 месяца назад

      Would you share your complete configuration? I have a similar budget and am considering going full AMD.

    • @TheGympert
      @TheGympert 2 месяца назад

      ​@@danilo6992 cpu: ryzen 5 7600x, mobo: Gigabyte B650 Gaming X AX V2, cpu cooler: thermalright frozen notte 360, ram: 32 gb Kingston Fury ddr5 5200Mhz, Gpu: Sapphire RX 7900gre Pure, psu: Corsair RM850e and Case: Montech Air 903 Max. Edit: you dont need to go for a 850w psu. 750w would be enough but its just a personal preference to have a little more headroom.

    • @Boringwatching-w6f
      @Boringwatching-w6f 2 месяца назад

      Yup, please share your full build config

  • @themachine4008
    @themachine4008 10 месяцев назад +66

    Question......what is the power draw after the overclock?

    • @WENEVERLEFT
      @WENEVERLEFT 10 месяцев назад +16

      powerdraw after memclock usually not as big as, when you OC GPU.

    • @skyryudo311
      @skyryudo311 10 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@WENEVERLEFTyeah but I guess you probably need to uplift the card to 15% for the oc to be stable right ? I have no idea actually how stable it would be with no power limit enabled. So I guess at worst 300w ish max

    • @Petch85
      @Petch85 10 месяцев назад +2

      Probably close to 330W.
      If you hit the limit you can reduce the voltage and gain a little more performance.

    • @Petch85
      @Petch85 10 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@WENEVERLEFTjust to be clear, he also OCed the core clock.

    • @AndyViant
      @AndyViant 10 месяцев назад +11

      about 300w depending on the variant. Still seems a limit with the board. An undervolt to about 960mv will bring that down as low as about 260w, depending on which variant and your ticket in the silicon lottery.

  • @devonjohnson7501
    @devonjohnson7501 10 месяцев назад +2

    Thanks for the update Steve, hope you had a good vacation. I think the GRE is the most interesting card in the "mid-range" segment so I appreciate this video a lot.

  • @KingTaterSupreme
    @KingTaterSupreme 10 месяцев назад +16

    I picked up the Steel Legend 7900 GRE... it's my 1st AMD card, I don't don't care for raytracing. I upgraded from a 3060ti 8gb & also wanted a white card for my all white build. I gotta say, I'm never gonna overlook other brands again, I'm in love with this card, especially paired with my AORUS fo48u. Me taking a chance on a different brand has definitely changed my perspective on future PC components.

    • @andersjjensen
      @andersjjensen 10 месяцев назад +7

      I switched 20 years ago and never "came back". All the negative crap comes from Nvidia users who need constant validation that they "made the right choice".

  • @nipa5961
    @nipa5961 10 месяцев назад +7

    Wow, from a 4070S competitor to a 4070TiS competitor just with a free overclock.
    Awesome card!

  • @potatoes5829
    @potatoes5829 10 месяцев назад +23

    I think it could be interesting to see the difference between the 7800 xt and 7900 gre when memory bandwidth normalized (I.e., both with 20gbps memory), seeing as they both have 256bit bus.

    • @FreshPanda97
      @FreshPanda97 4 месяца назад

      same....most reviews are outdated when it comes to the 7900GRE because it was before the OC potential got unlocked

  • @Jeshhhhhh
    @Jeshhhhhh 10 месяцев назад +7

    Great work! Thanks for the quality content

  • @MartindeBoer2
    @MartindeBoer2 10 месяцев назад +4

    Good video. Not interested in overclocking personally, because of stability concerns. But I like to watch others overclock, to see what is possible. So keep making these videos.

  • @Abrasive-Heat
    @Abrasive-Heat 10 месяцев назад +6

    That little push on the memory was all it needed to actually be a pretty good deal.
    Especially if you’re gonna play games at 4k.

  • @AH-video
    @AH-video 10 месяцев назад +30

    this card is in a sweet price performance point ... good to see this has gone global only thing which would have made it better would be 20gbps memory

    • @andrewcross5918
      @andrewcross5918 10 месяцев назад +14

      Pretty sure the actual chips are 20gbps, they are just down rated for the stock config.

    • @Jtq-y4n
      @Jtq-y4n 10 месяцев назад +8

      @@andrewcross5918 4060 Ti is like this as well no clue why. If 4060 Ti had a 256 bit bus and the VRAM was set at it's rated speeds it would have been a great release ( albeit drawing more power ).

    • @manoftherainshorts9075
      @manoftherainshorts9075 10 месяцев назад +2

      AIB cards feature 20gbps memory modules.

    • @AH-video
      @AH-video 10 месяцев назад

      @@manoftherainshorts9075 this makes sense

    • @AH-video
      @AH-video 10 месяцев назад

      @@andrewcross5918 i don't doubt you on this but seems like bit of a own goal

  • @Wutwut1n1
    @Wutwut1n1 8 месяцев назад +4

    Should put the OC settings in the video description, thank you for your hard work! 🙌

  • @Pawcio2115
    @Pawcio2115 10 месяцев назад +9

    Apparently the 7900 GRE will be my next GPU ✌🏻

  • @AlekseyDegterev
    @AlekseyDegterev 9 месяцев назад +2

    Thanks for the amazing graphics, everything is clear without translation👍

  • @mitchjames9350
    @mitchjames9350 10 месяцев назад +24

    Should have had the memory bandwidth higher and called it the 7800 XTX or 7850 XT.

  • @raycasta10
    @raycasta10 10 месяцев назад +25

    The gap price between the rx 7800xt and 7900 gre in my city is so close, i feel regret getting the 7800xt 😢 but im still on my 1080p monitor so iguess im still fine with it

    • @Qvcpvc909
      @Qvcpvc909 10 месяцев назад +1

      I didn't know 7900 gre was better with almost same price as 7800xt, Almost did your mistake haha

    • @XXlegovidXx
      @XXlegovidXx 10 месяцев назад +2

      When did you purchase it cus surely you could send it back?

    • @GoolagCEO
      @GoolagCEO 10 месяцев назад +1

      yeah same thing got it end of last year, feels bad man
      GRE will pull ahead on some games especially on 4K

    • @HYDRAdude
      @HYDRAdude 10 месяцев назад

      AMD releasing this card right when the 7700/7800xt launch window ended, right when the return window closed, was extremely dirty of them. Even nvidia doesn't hate their own customers this much.

    • @HYDRAdude
      @HYDRAdude 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@GoolagCEOJust remember to vote with you wallet next time and go either nvidia or even Intel next time.

  • @danieloberhofer9035
    @danieloberhofer9035 10 месяцев назад +92

    As I've already said when the GRE was a niche OEM only product in the West: Best OC card this gen. The way it's built, it's a tinkerer's product.
    Now, in a perfect world, they would have ditched the GRE branding, given it 20 Gbps memory from the start, called it the 7900 without XT or 7800XTX and would probably have gotten much better reviews - but that's AMD doing AMD things, again. They just can't help shooting themselves in the foot over and over again.

  • @Joeyratatouille
    @Joeyratatouille 10 месяцев назад +2

    I picked up a 7900 GRE this week finally upgrading from a gtx 1070 that I was squeezing every last bit of performance out of. I am really happy so far after figuring out some issues fixed by cleaning out old nvidia drivers. I am pretty happy with it. Other than tinkering with the memory, if anyone knows any optimization tips for these newer radeon cards let me know! I have been out of the loop for a lot of the newer cards and I feel like I am still leaving a lot of performance on the table.

  • @Firing0
    @Firing0 10 месяцев назад +157

    the re-re-re-review

    • @DarkNia64
      @DarkNia64 10 месяцев назад +1

      Conspiracy theory: AMD intentionally held back performance on this thing, knowing a post-launch performance patch would garner more attention.

    • @smugmode
      @smugmode 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@DarkNia64yeah I think something fishy, but it's hard to complain now when I'm beating 4070 Ti Super in Time Spy thanks to the new drivers

    • @DarkNia64
      @DarkNia64 10 месяцев назад

      @@smugmode How's the power consumption with that new update?

    • @smugmode
      @smugmode 10 месяцев назад

      @@DarkNia64 305W constant, I've recorded about 400W peak. It runs fine at max power even with my dual fan AsRock Challenger, ~70C core and ~82C mem (60% fan speed, side panel off)

    • @DarkNia64
      @DarkNia64 10 месяцев назад

      @smugmode Damn! The performance is certainly impressive, but I wonder how much more efficient it would run with, say, a 10% clock speed reduction.
      I run my 6900xt underclocked simply because it nearly cuts the power draw in half. Out of the box, at 2524MHz, it sits at ~290W, but a slight undervolt and capping the clock to 2250MHz reduces the power draw to a comfy ~160W!

  • @marks9233
    @marks9233 9 месяцев назад +1

    FYI, see also the step by step to overclocking the 7900GRE in more detail by "Ancient Gameplays": ruclips.net/video/MAkBvkbne_E/видео.html

  • @Paakli
    @Paakli 10 месяцев назад +4

    Impressive results

  • @xgearheart8592
    @xgearheart8592 10 месяцев назад +2

    I wanted to say thanks for including a 4070 oc for perspective. Many reviewers I follow did not do this.
    This was a good decision since OC review was a popular demand by the community even though it's not the traditional approach to these benchmarks.

  • @WrexBF
    @WrexBF 10 месяцев назад +10

    The issue is that AMD GPU overclocks never stick. Once a week the driver crashes (black screen for 2 seconds) and all OC settings get reverted back to default.

    • @livingplasma
      @livingplasma 10 месяцев назад +5

      I only use Adrenalin to tweak fan curves and still get "Default Radeon WattMan settings has been restored due to unexpected system failure"

    • @KlaweKlapki
      @KlaweKlapki 10 месяцев назад

      Bullshit

    • @WrexBF
      @WrexBF 10 месяцев назад +4

      @@KlaweKlapki Look it up if you think I'm bullshitting. This issue has been around since Polaris.

    • @Kryptic1046
      @Kryptic1046 10 месяцев назад

      @@WrexBF - Facts. I have a 7900 XTX and the driver resets OC settings for literally any reason or no reason at all about once a week. I have the settings exported to a file, so it's easy to change them back again, but you are right that AMD's software loves resetting your tuning settings.

    • @JesManVP
      @JesManVP Месяц назад

      ​@Kryptic1046 been doing that for me too but I memorized the settings

  • @TechGuyBeau
    @TechGuyBeau 10 месяцев назад

    I picked one up to do game testing and requests. I haven’t been interested in a gpu since the a770 to do proper coverage of. Feels nice

  • @XBnPC
    @XBnPC 10 месяцев назад +4

    Wow, that's the best performance & value GPU I've seen in the mid-range in a while

  • @GONZA10X
    @GONZA10X 10 месяцев назад +2

    Liking my GRE! Upgrading from a 5700 XT, and that was noticeable on tekken 8; even though they have the 5700XT as recommended. :/ also I can now game at a healthy 60 fps at 4k. So that is a plus.

  • @stefensmith9522
    @stefensmith9522 10 месяцев назад +4

    Holy Crap!! That's amazing!! You have a $500 amd card stomping a $800 NVIDIA card.... Just from a driver update!!!! NVIDIA has NEVER been able to pull off sometime like this

  • @mickd1368
    @mickd1368 4 месяца назад

    just built a pc a micro center. 7600x3d bundle and 7900 GRE and i love it. love micro center too.

  • @Jtq-y4n
    @Jtq-y4n 10 месяцев назад +7

    Impressive I would be interested to compare 7800xt OC results. Also 4060 Ti is crippled to 18gbps while using 20gbps chips ( at least in my gpu) , no clue why nvidia did that.
    Edit: Seems some have 18gbps and some have samsung 20gbps. If you use GPU-Z and see samsung it is running 20gbps chips.

    • @PC_Ringo
      @PC_Ringo 10 месяцев назад +2

      Probably not the only thing we have no clue about wrt NVIDIA and the 40 series in general 😅

  • @wertywerrtyson5529
    @wertywerrtyson5529 10 месяцев назад +2

    GREat to see a modern card having decent OC capability. We have seen so few of those for a long time.

  • @manoftherainshorts9075
    @manoftherainshorts9075 10 месяцев назад +23

    Fixed memory OC makes it the most exciting card this generation.
    This is what 7800xt should have been from the start.

  • @fateunleashed9680
    @fateunleashed9680 10 месяцев назад +2

    This is so interesting to see such an nice lil bump. I'm now really interested in the gap above the 7900XT and the 7900XTX... is that decently large gap there to slot the 8800XT in? Or could the average partner card make up some ground? Even with the lowered price of the 7900XTX now at $899 that's a $200 difference for ~18% improvement based on checking our your 4080S 1440p average section of the review. Did this GRE unlock accidentally add any boosts to the higher end cards' OC ability? Would be interesting to see! At least for me. Cheers.

  • @RazvanMGH
    @RazvanMGH 10 месяцев назад +31

    7800xt overclocked vs 7900 gre overclocked would be interesting

    • @HenrikPflanz-o4d
      @HenrikPflanz-o4d 10 месяцев назад +5

      the 7800xt is pushed to the limit more than the gre, so when overclocked the 7800xt would probably only gain 4 percent

    • @roki977
      @roki977 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@HenrikPflanz-o4d 7800xt overclocks well esc Nitro or Red devil, over 10%

    • @kawafahra
      @kawafahra 10 месяцев назад +5

      7800 XT has 60CUs, same as 6800 non XT. OC about base spec GRE.
      6800 XTs has 72 Cus, OCs about the same as 7800 XT.
      The bigger chip makes up for the older architecture.
      7900 GRE has 80CUs, which is the reason why it scales well compared to 4070 supertitty, again its a big chip.
      If you want higher resolutions and / or RT, get the GRE and OC the memory.

    • @roki977
      @roki977 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@kawafahra I owned 6800. for last 6 months i own 7800 xt hellhound and i no one can tell me that that gpu dont overclock or scale well, its a beast. I can get my xt over 3ghz for benchmarks, 2.9 for 1440p, well over 10% gain over ref. clocks.. If you are unlucky and run into Samsung memory on any of those gpu you wont see much memory overclocking.. These guys are testing top notch model with extra power phases and higher power limit which is low on ref gre and all of them are power limited..

    • @kawafahra
      @kawafahra 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@roki977 Thats where RDNA 3 made the jump up a class.
      6800 and 7800 XT share market segment, price bracket, and number of compute units, 7800XT is way faster out of the box.
      7900GRE is an afterthought, an extra pcb layout neither based on XTX, nor 7800 downwards, but mobile 7900.
      Why they brought it into mass production, no one knows.

  • @julfy_god
    @julfy_god 10 месяцев назад +1

    thanks guys for this video!

  • @blackwidow7804
    @blackwidow7804 10 месяцев назад +6

    I dont think it was a bug. AMD did that on purpose becouse the OC GRE trades blows with 7900XT in some cases. But after they were called out its supposedly a bug.

    • @magikarp2063
      @magikarp2063 10 месяцев назад

      Yup. The fact they are using slow memory gives it away.
      Feels like they would do anything to shoot themselves in the foot.

  • @wizardddy3023
    @wizardddy3023 7 месяцев назад +2

    I was about to buy a 7800xt, but at the last moment I noticed that the 7900gre was €30 cheaper where I live.
    That seems like a no-brainer, right?

  • @NANOTECHYT
    @NANOTECHYT 10 месяцев назад +5

    Be aware, some people's cards have Samsung/Hynix memory and thus they can only hit the high 2300 MHz range for memory OC which is paltry, rather than the high 2600 MHz range like Steve did. It really is luck of the draw as to how well your card can do. I mean I know OCs have always been a per card/chip thing, but for memory OC I've never seen such a large difference, usually all VRAM OC's within 100 MHz of another card, even golden samples.

    • @DavidHHH99
      @DavidHHH99 10 месяцев назад +1

      Damn. I have the Gigabyte OC model, and GPU-Z is reporting that it's Samsung memory. I got it because it has the highest core factory OC of the models selling for $550, but I guess we're getting shafted with the RAM. Oh well...

  • @eclampsium
    @eclampsium 6 месяцев назад +2

    Did you tested different GRE models? Wich one overclocked how much?

    • @eclampsium
      @eclampsium 6 месяцев назад

      And that steel legend!!!? I’m thinking about that white babe… but if the sapjone nitro goes further…

    • @benegesserit9838
      @benegesserit9838 6 месяцев назад

      Hellhound is the best gre

    • @gt1man931
      @gt1man931 6 месяцев назад +1

      It is the silicon lottery.
      It doesn't make any difference except for the one that you end up with. You might buy a Pure and Nitro+ and the Pure OCs better.
      Just buy the one that appeals to you that is also available to you.
      I found a hellhound at a small electronics shop for 485 U.S., I could not say no even if it is a couple % less OC than the Nitro+ reviewed here, as the HWU guy said, all of the four he had were within a couple % of each other. It is still in UPS somewhere so I haven't tested.

  • @hasancreed248
    @hasancreed248 10 месяцев назад +8

    So basically this is what the RX 7800 XT should have been.

  • @Melan_B
    @Melan_B 10 месяцев назад

    I'm so happy to be watching this fresh review of this new graphics card that has never been done before. I hope to see a re review sometime soon!

  • @rgstroud
    @rgstroud 10 месяцев назад +3

    Great update. Please add cost per frame comparison graph update. That would be cool!

    • @Hardwareunboxed
      @Hardwareunboxed  10 месяцев назад +28

      Can't really do cost per frame for an overclock, that would be a bit misleading.

    • @ItsJustVV
      @ItsJustVV 10 месяцев назад +4

      @@HardwareunboxedBut you should have added the horrible perf/watt graph & power draw for both OC-ed GPUs showing how much more efficient nvidia is even OC-ed. Not to mention how it destroys Radeon in heavy RT/PT games.

    • @PJSM94
      @PJSM94 10 месяцев назад

      Bring the fanboyism down a few points, man. ​@@ItsJustVV

    • @woldemunster9244
      @woldemunster9244 10 месяцев назад +8

      @@ItsJustVV Fanboy much?

    • @AndyViant
      @AndyViant 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@ItsJustVV AMD respond REALLY well to undervolting. So much so that you can often overclock even further after undervolting.
      Like cost per frame with overclocking, performance/watt is also kind of misleading. It comes down too much to your skill and patience in getting the outcome.

  • @kenshirogenjuro873
    @kenshirogenjuro873 10 месяцев назад

    Nice to finally see this GRE re-re, re-re-re, re-review.
    So a card that was originally vanishingly faster than their own 7800XT was capable of some pretty substantial gains after AMD got out of their own way, often able to perform more akin to the 7900XT and I particularly think breaking even with the 4070ti Super in 4K was significant.
    Personally, I think merely naming it the 7900 for the world market would have been best.
    Also fantastic to include OC results for the 4070 Super right off the bat since potential buyers should naturally be curious what they might be able to extract there as well.
    Can’t wait for a re-re, re-re-re-review of the 13900, now wearing the “14900KS” moniker.

  • @_bacterio
    @_bacterio 10 месяцев назад +6

    Impressive!

  • @Markuzila
    @Markuzila 10 месяцев назад +1

    Good news! From your guys testing, you should use perhaps the PowerColor Hellhound, that had lower temps, perhaps you would even get better results!

  • @SiCSpiT1
    @SiCSpiT1 9 месяцев назад +5

    I'm not a China phile, but Golden Rabbit Edition is one of the best GPU names on the market!

  • @aidenworth8186
    @aidenworth8186 10 месяцев назад +1

    When talking about overclocks I feel like it’s really important to not forget power draw. Overclocking my 7900xt can add 75 watts to TBP which is massive. Undervolting is another area that’s not often talked about either since it allows more clocks. Would love to see more testing here for red and green cards! I can overclock my 7900xt to stock 7900xtx performance but decide to undervolt instead to reduce power significantly while keeping just above stock performance.

    • @PineyJustice
      @PineyJustice 10 месяцев назад

      The 7900gre needs a memory overclock, not a core overclock so power would be largely unaffected. Secondly, maybe a partner 7900xt can hit a MBA 7900xtx, but a partner 7900xtx stock is going to be well out of the range of a 7900xt, and the partner 7900xtx cards can overclock pretty well too.

  • @Peter.H.A.Petersen
    @Peter.H.A.Petersen 10 месяцев назад +3

    Great content, but I'm missing power consumption increases for the OC's ...

  • @thepatriot6966
    @thepatriot6966 10 месяцев назад +1

    I am curious. When reviewers say what the maxiumum and/or sustained clock speed of the AMD 7000 cards. Are they quoting the front end clock or the shader clock?

  • @miladh1859
    @miladh1859 10 месяцев назад +8

    A+++ FOR AMD❤❤❤

  • @Maldark404
    @Maldark404 10 месяцев назад +1

    I'm curious, what kind of power was it drawing at those speeds? Does it scale better in ray tracing with the extra cores?

  • @AlexHusTech
    @AlexHusTech 10 месяцев назад +5

    *Nice, looking for a GRE for my next upgrade*

  • @AshtonCoolman
    @AshtonCoolman 10 месяцев назад +1

    Here in Houston, TX the 7900 GRE is about the same price as 7800 XTs at Microcenter. I want one for my 2nd gaming PC.

  • @bosquejo72
    @bosquejo72 10 месяцев назад +18

    Superior even to 4070 Ti Super. 400$ less...

  • @earthtaurus5515
    @earthtaurus5515 10 месяцев назад

    Thanks for covering this Steve, the driver also enabled Windows HDR to work on the QN90C as now able to set Colour depth to 12 bpc with Pixel Format RGB 4:4:4 under display in Andrenalin (AMD's GPU control panel for the average joe) using a HDMI cable capable of handling the signal. So, now I can enjoy Freesync HDR in games that don't auto force the TV to use Freesync HDR. Man, games even look amazing at 4096 x 2160 with Freesync HDR. I bought the TV on monthly payments before everything happened with Samsung TVs warranty scandal - where a repair tech knifed a customers TV....

  • @benfr2744
    @benfr2744 10 месяцев назад +5

    Vs 7800 XT OC 🤔?

    • @VoldoronGaming
      @VoldoronGaming 10 месяцев назад

      Steve said there are similar overclocking results for the 7800 xt

    • @AndyViant
      @AndyViant 10 месяцев назад +1

      You'd expect it destroys it. There's a 33% more cores. The issue with the GRE was simply how crippled it was by the memory clocks.

    • @benfr2744
      @benfr2744 10 месяцев назад

      @@VoldoronGaming ok thanks, I just saw 😉

    • @__Pathfinder__
      @__Pathfinder__ 10 месяцев назад

      @@AndyViant Memory Bandwith is to low. It bottlenecks it's potential by design. So OC gains are now very similar to the 7800XT. Memory OC is not that big benefit on AMD cards. You get +0,5% performance for +50 Mhz. I tested it with the 7800XT.

    • @twanheijkoop6753
      @twanheijkoop6753 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@__Pathfinder__really depends on the card you have, my 6600xt sees about 8% from 2000 to 2300mhz.
      Which is about the same gains as going from 175 to 300w in average power draw.
      (2700mhz@1.05v vs 3000mhz@1.2v)

  • @Steve30x
    @Steve30x 10 месяцев назад +1

    The XFX 7900gre I got today boosts to 2.6ghz at default setting.

  • @nelsonmejiaslozada9362
    @nelsonmejiaslozada9362 10 месяцев назад +4

    So the 4070 TI is a barely faster 4070 super and let's remember it is originally the 4080 12 GB.
    Nvidia care for gamers.

  • @johnwhan7288
    @johnwhan7288 7 месяцев назад

    Always considered you an nvidia fanguy. This was a good overclock on your part. The same overclock Techpowerup was able to achieve. 16% is quite impressive.

  • @REgamesplayer
    @REgamesplayer 10 месяцев назад +6

    So let me get this straight. AMD just released an amazing product for OC which delivers insane value to enthusiasts AND they had this feature locked during initial release and all day 1 reviews? Just AMD things. This company never misses to miss the opportunity.

  • @gxmcdg
    @gxmcdg 10 месяцев назад +1

    79090xt was cheaper than the GRE here so I just went up and bought the first one. My doubt: are there similar room for improvement with 7900xt's memories?

  • @anthonyc2159
    @anthonyc2159 10 месяцев назад +3

    It is more than obvious that they gimped it on purpose so it would not cannibalize 7900XT sales.

    • @sabinopereira1631
      @sabinopereira1631 10 месяцев назад +2

      Which is stupid, given the price difference. People who wanted a high 1440p to mid 4k card would go for the 7900 xt anyways.

    • @anthonyc2159
      @anthonyc2159 10 месяцев назад

      @@sabinopereira1631 Actually, the 7800 XT is more than enough for 1440p. My brother has one and he easily gets 100fps and 60fps at 4k

  • @doumanseiman2645
    @doumanseiman2645 10 месяцев назад +1

    Can the limited memory difference between the 7900gre and the 7800xt make a difference somewhere down the line similar to what happened with vram?

  • @Petch85
    @Petch85 10 месяцев назад +10

    7900 GRE is the best OCing GPU we seen in a long time now.😊

  • @00AfterBurner
    @00AfterBurner 10 месяцев назад

    As someone who just bought a 7900 GRE, I actually really appreciate the coverage you have done about this GPU. Really happy about my purchase knowing i spent $579 on a GPU that performs like a $700+ GPU. Thank you

  • @zodwraith5745
    @zodwraith5745 10 месяцев назад +5

    The problem with relying on overclocking to make a product not suck, is it's going to vary wildly from model to model, and even card to card. Then you have to account for using "premium" AIB models like the Hellhound and Nitro for your best results, which are _never_ sold at MSRP, ruining any price advantage over the 4070 Super which is available for $20 _below_ MSRP.
    Then you still have the elephant in the room that this video skipped over completely, and that's raytracing. I wanted to see how much better the GRE was in RT considering is has far more RT cores than the 7800xt, but of course would have been beaten badly by the 4070 super.

    • @JustMyFish
      @JustMyFish 10 месяцев назад +1

      You can just take it out the box plug it in play your games it does not suck. It’s perfectly fine off the shelf.

    • @zodwraith5745
      @zodwraith5745 10 месяцев назад

      @@JustMyFish Considering all the hoopla that's come with this launch between reviewers and AMD fanboys upset that they didn't cherry pick premium models that _aren't_ MSRP and overclock it to put the card in it's best possible light? Yeah, it sucks, and it's mediocre at best. The only thing going for it is everything else pretty much sucks too, so the Gimped Rabbit fits right in.

  • @OfSheikah
    @OfSheikah 10 месяцев назад +2

    THANK YOU FOR NOT OVERSELLING THE CARD
    dont wanna have another RTX 3070 sold out situation

  • @Birdman._.
    @Birdman._. 10 месяцев назад +14

    Guess we're gonna get 7900 gre have better performance than Rtx 4080 super at the next fix

    • @Ragssssss
      @Ragssssss 10 месяцев назад +2

      This is satire right?

    • @Birdman._.
      @Birdman._. 10 месяцев назад +7

      ​@dominatortitaniumsarcasm

    • @skythundersky1544
      @skythundersky1544 10 месяцев назад

      It depends on the game and the use case

    • @Eleganttf2
      @Eleganttf2 10 месяцев назад

      What a joke

  • @cppctek
    @cppctek 10 месяцев назад +1

    Nice little free uplift in performance. Good value to be honest

  • @Conrad75
    @Conrad75 10 месяцев назад +1

    I have an asrock challenger 7900 gre and any time I mess with the memory oc it creates stuttering in games to the point where I have to uninstall and reinstall the drivers. Setting everything back to default doesnt work. It also makes my 2nd monitor stutter when watching videos (which is odd seeing as that monitor is running off the iGPU)

  • @nashaeshire6534
    @nashaeshire6534 10 месяцев назад

    Thanks for the bench. Could you tell me what GPU stable values did you ended with?

  • @firstlast-cs6eg
    @firstlast-cs6eg 10 месяцев назад +1

    Disappointed you didn't test OC non-nitro 7900gre. Nitro version adds a fair amount to price. Possibly using the nitro for OC testing but regular gre for pricing consideration
    Have they fixed the issue with power consumption with video play with 7900gre?

  • @Albert41122
    @Albert41122 9 месяцев назад

    yeee, but did they fixed wattman bsods and drivers crashes ??

  • @lifeisinserthere
    @lifeisinserthere 9 месяцев назад +1

    Does this make the 7900 XT not worth spending the extra $150-ish on now? Would the additional 4GB of VRAM if not much else be worth it?

  • @decibellone696
    @decibellone696 8 месяцев назад

    So, I have this card... i think what i love about it... it does heave lifting, and makes the subttle things look good as well, things like vids, and pics.

  • @tobitobend6723
    @tobitobend6723 10 месяцев назад +1

    Got mine yesterday - 7900 GRE Pure Edition Sapphire - 960 mV - 2603 Mhz Core Clock - 2312 Mhz Memory Clock - average 10% more FPS and thanks to UV it only draws 245 Watts. Was the same price as the 7800xt in my country.

    • @danieldellemonache2133
      @danieldellemonache2133 10 месяцев назад

      At 925mv is it stable? if so you would have a gold chip that is difficult to replicate by other boards

    • @tobitobend6723
      @tobitobend6723 10 месяцев назад

      @danieldellemonache2133 ​Seems like it, 10 mins Stresstest in AMD Adrenaline and Furmark

    • @tobitobend6723
      @tobitobend6723 10 месяцев назад

      @@danieldellemonache2133 nope unfortunately it only runs stable at minimum 960 mV (after some gaming - f.e. Horzion Forbidden West) and i lowered the VRAM Clock to 2312, cause i didn't see a huge increase of fps in a lot of games, the only increase i saw was in the fan speed and in the temps - benchmarks are the only exception.

  • @noursmair3239
    @noursmair3239 3 месяца назад

    What do you think about the Asrock challenger OC 7900 the dual fan gre edition? Is there problems in the tempreature

  • @sparkplugbarrens
    @sparkplugbarrens 10 месяцев назад +1

    In which software did you overclock the software and could you post a more detailed overclocking guide?
    These are the values, which I got from the video, are these correct?
    Operating speed: 2600 mhz
    Memory speed: 21.2 g/bits per second
    Max. Power Limits: + 15 % Max power limits
    Core clock frequency: 2.7 ghz core clock frequency

  • @straysheep5312
    @straysheep5312 10 месяцев назад +1

    I definitely want to purchase the GRE for the best price/performance, but I love the reference card that only comes for the 7900 xt. I'm absolutely wished they made a reference card with the GRE. I'll just wait until the 7900 XT drops to $650 in the future.

    • @andersjjensen
      @andersjjensen 10 месяцев назад

      I had a Reference 6700XT. It was too noisy and hot for me, so I returned it and up-paid to a Red Devil 6700XT. After seeing the reviews of the Reference 7900XTX I went directly for a Sapphire Pulse 7900XTX. I still vastly prefer the look of the Reference cards, but the vapour chamber approach is just not idea.

    • @slayridah
      @slayridah 6 месяцев назад

      Btw I think the 7900 XT is $650 now. At least it was earlier today

  • @TheShadDrag
    @TheShadDrag 10 месяцев назад +1

    How about power usage when OC? That would've been interesting to see.

  • @beowulf2146
    @beowulf2146 10 месяцев назад +2

    Can you do a how to overclock the gre for the people that have never done it?

  • @rogert250
    @rogert250 10 месяцев назад +1

    Would be interesting to compare against 7900 xt oc. Overall great performance for the 7900 gre now!

  • @nathanpose8607
    @nathanpose8607 10 месяцев назад +2

    Man, kinda want it but also kinda want to wait for 8000 series.

  • @maxdamage4919
    @maxdamage4919 9 месяцев назад

    This is similar to the old ATI 2900PRO and XT era. The ATI 2900 pro, you could convert it into an XT, by touching a few parameters, and it performed the same as the XT version

  • @ryangardinerusa2753
    @ryangardinerusa2753 10 месяцев назад

    Love the VLDL figurines. 🤙