(SOVOL SV08) Bambu Labs X1C Print Quality In Half The Time???
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- Опубликовано: 22 май 2024
- Quick video showing print quality of the SV08 after calibrations against the Bambu Labs X1C.
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Would love to hear more about what you decided to upgrade and why, also a video on installing the new fan since every owner is going to have to do that lol.
This is the news I was wanting for. Luckily, I fell appon your video and have now subscribed to your channel. I like what you are doing, and hopefully, will you release more on the Solvol sv08 VERRY soon. I have the sv08 on order and am jennuly excited about it. I'm looking forward to seeing you soon.
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Thanks for watching and subscribing! More to come on the SV08 very soon!
Thanks for the comparison .This seems to be a pretty decent printer. I watch just about every review and test of this machine.
I'm more interested in accuracy than speed, especially as Z height increases. Would it be possible for you to do a test to explore this? Some narrow cylinders and square columns at different sizes in vase mode would do it! Maybe 5mm, 10mm and 20mm in diameter - and at different speeds too.
You will always have innacurracies on an FDM printer, you can get close but never perfect. Calibrate steps and that's it.
If you want tight and small, try resin.
@@Splarkszter I'm well aware of the capabilities of resin printers - and their limitations.
You don't seem to understand the question. Calibration is not my concern here, more consistency and construction.
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Everytime!
Nice thanks for the video. As i said earlier in FB will you share the settings?
Just calibrate with orca slicer. These settings are different depending on filament ect.
Can you show some more prints? Bambu printers have terrible banding at lower speeds especially for PETG.
What slicer are you using and how are you tuning the cooling? Banding is not a printer anomaly, it's a layer time cooling logic anomaly. You have to slice banding out of the profile. If you get banding on a part and then use the exact same profile and filament settings but for another printer you will still get banding.
Was input shaper calibration done before benchy?
Yes
My unit is set for June delivery, The only real question I have is, will they release a hardened steel nozzle? Or will a 3rd party make one?
Revo 3d is working on something!
I'm really interested in this too, there will have to be a harded option available from somewhere.
Could you please share the orca slicer PetG profile you used for the video
Profiles on the Sovol SV08 wiki!
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58 minutes to print a PETG benchy on an X1C? Is that using the overly conservative Generic PETG profile Bambu has? Bambu is really conservative with their generic profiles and some of the max flow rates are half of what the filament is actually capable of. When I loaded my Creality PETG profile into Orca, I got a 30 minute total print time with the X1C.
Stock everything, Bambu PETG Basic profile, 59mins 17s
@@Lost3DPrints That's the issue. Bambu's generic material profiles are so ridiculously over conservative that it adds unnecessary time to the print. I did the max flow rate tests in Orca slicer and found that many of the Bambu generic profiles can have their maximum flow rate increased by at least 40-50% even with the cheapest filament I can find on Amazon. That's after reducing the max flow rate by 10% for a margin of safety. I have several 3D printers and was shocked at how conservative Bambu is with their filament profiles in terms of max flow rate for non Bambu filament compared to some slower printers. Orca slicer uses many of the filament profiles as Bambu slicer so it has the same issue.
@@Mildly_Amused I think Bambu purposely tunes slow enough to allow you to turn speed up 66% (for ludicrous speed setting) so anyone can turn the speed up without having to reslice or have issues. I keep my Voron's tuned so close to the edge you add 15% and will hit issues, but on my wife's Bambu I can take any print, crank the speed up 66% and it prints the same, telling me the stock profiles are printing way slower than needed.
@@crashingsux This could be the case but in the past when I tried ludicrous on my X1C the print quality took a big hit.
@@crashingsux That's not how the ludicrous speed setting works. Ludicrous speed is still limited by the same max flow rate for the filament profile in the slicer. Compensating for Ludicrous speed has nothing to do with the overly conservative max flow rates that Bambu uses.
You can have the same result with Ender 3 V3 in 14 minutes! I tried it! (0 stringing... Though... I did it with HyperPLA... not PETG!)
Was this with a stock Benchy STL from printables or the speed benchy file that comes from Creality?
@@Lost3DPrints Speed Benchy GCODE that came with the printer (Ender 3 V3 Plus). When I sliced it myself, I got the 33 minutes with Generic PLA. Standard profile 0.25 layers. Tried to slice for Generic PETG and got 38 minutes with the same settings. All those are default settings as I just got the printer and am not yet inclined to experiment since I'm SOOO happy with the results as is! I had heavily moded E3 Pro with Sprite and 1mm nozzle before, mostly printing at 0.7 layer... adjusting profiles to get a good and fast print was nightmare for this setup. E3 V3 Plus is faster with standard settings... better looking and supports are breeze to take down! Love it!
That's not really the same result, that's 2 different tests.
@@EatingCtrlV Yes I believe the SV08 does a 12 min speed benchy but this is comparing the stock benchy file for speed with quality. I sell printed parts they need to look good and the faster I can print them the better.
So this is not a fair out of the box comparision? then why do you compare it - almost an hour is painfully slow on an X1 or P1 series, this is possible way faster as others have already suggested
you do something terribly wrong - Benchy with SpeedBoatRace Parameters on my Bambu Lab Printer slices with stock settings and the generic PETG profile (which is painfully slow, because it has a crippled flow rate) just over 40 minutes
This is both printers on stock profiles! All I’ve tuned on the SV08 is filament calibrations on Orca! I used the Bambu Basic PETG profile on the X1C , I’m not changing any speeds.
@@Lost3DPrints doing calibrations in orca is the exact opposite of using stock settings! Come on man everyone knows this and no other RUclipsr compares printers in this manner. You are buying a Toyota and comparing it to a Honda but the Honda has been to the speed shop for ecu improvements. Not a proper comparison. This does not mean the sv08 isn't a great printer at a great price, it just means you're inaccurately representing an x1c.
@@phasesecuritytechnology6573 The X1C has had filament calibration done also! I perform filament calibrations on all my printers in Orca slicer. The SV08 filament profiles are definitely half baked as the printer just released and most have not received one.
@@Lost3DPrints then you did an exceptionally bad job when your printer is 20 minutes slower than mine with exactly stock settings
@@Lost3DPrints you don't need to change the speed, all slic3r based slicers including orca and Bambu studio derive the speed indirectly from the volumetric flow, so filament calibration makes the printer indirectly faster
This is what ive been telling people. The newer printers that cost 1/3 the price have surpassed or matched the Bambu printers. They have all the features and are faster....Buying a Bambu now is just stupid
I still think the A1 and A1 mini are very good printers. Plenty of other amazing reliable options though.
@@Lost3DPrints The A1 and A1 mini are over priced for what you get. Bambu needs to realize the golden era of them at the top is coming to an end and now they need to compete
@@anthonylong5870literally thumbs up for the dumbest comment here.
This is not really an Apples to Apples comparison be cause bamboo supplies you with a basic petg profile which is not tuned and then you comparing it to a printer that has no petg profiles shipped with it so you have to create your own which is automatically going to be tuned better because you're starting from scratch.
Not true I used the PETG profile on Sovol SV08 Wiki, all I’ve done on the SOVOL to get these results is Calibrations in Orca.
@@Lost3DPrints my point exactly. There are no profiles in orca for this printer as of 2 weeks ago. You went to a third party site, got some optimised settings and then did orca call which further tunes everything perfectly. Now do the same for your x1c and watch what happens. You will not be using 12mm vfr, it will top out at more like 20-22. If you want to compare what average consumers get from out of the box settings this did not do that. An average user will not be buying an sv08. They will be buying a ready to run printer so compare two of those and start from there.
@@phasesecuritytechnology6573I could be mistaken but I’m pretty sure sovol themselves is the one posting the profiles. They weren’t out initially but still posted by them. Either way it isn’t completely tuned
My p1s dies it in 14mins
yes that is the built in over optimalised hacked gcode but not what avarage joe got from the slicer
My A1 is fairly better than this to be honest and for the same price you have the AMS lite so ... good try : )
A1 has a much smaller print volume. Closed source design. Closed source firmware. Bambu is the leader in multi-color at the moment, but that may change, in time. This printer is better compared to the P1P, in it's (SV08's) open form.
Sovol has done something that a lot of people have been waiting for. A ready made Voron. They also released all of the files for the design of the printer. This thing is bound to have tremendous community support.
Bambu is not going anywhere and has nearly made 3d printers standard, easy to use appliances rather than hobby machines. A few years ago, I would have said the Prusa MK3s+ was the best consumer ready printer. Bambu, imo, has certainly taken that spot and will remain there for a long time.
@@Scr00ples Thanks for this comment, I'm tired of responding to these comments.
My bambulab A1 does the same quality in 30 minutes and with half the noise, good try for the sale. ha ha ha
You can print it in 17mins
The A1 prints a stock benchy stl in PETG in over an hour.
A misleading comment. A stock profile for a generic filament that has unknown properties is not a good point of reference. As others mentioned. Generic profiles on ANY printer will be extremely conservative.
@@phasesecuritytechnology6573 This was using the Bambu Lab Basic PETG profile.
Buy a tripod.
You shake more than an grandma with Parkinson's
Could you please share the Sovol SV08 Orca Slicer PetG profile you used for the video
Profiles on the Sovol SV08 wiki!
Did you use Sovol’s default profile?@@Lost3DPrints
@@Lost3DPrintsin the video you commented that you did several previous calibrations and adjustments to improve quality, you can say you did please