I Wish I Had Better News - Sovol SV08
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
- Welcome to my unboxing and first impressions of the Sovol SV08 3D Printer! In this video, we'll take a close look at the features, setup process, and performance of the SV08. Whether you're a beginner or a seasoned 3D printing enthusiast, this review will help you understand what this printer has to offer.
In This Video:
Unboxing and Assembly: We'll start with a detailed unboxing and step-by-step assembly guide to get you up and running quickly.
Features Overview: Discover the key features that make the SV08 stand out, including its large build volume, dual Z-axis design, direct drive extruder, and silent motherboard.
Software and Settings: A walkthrough of the software setup and recommended settings to achieve the best print quality.
Test Prints: Watch as we put the SV08 to the test with a variety of prints, showcasing its precision, speed, and reliability.
Pros and Cons: An honest discussion about the strengths and potential drawbacks of the SV08, based on my hands-on experience.
Final Verdict: My overall thoughts and whether I think the Sovol SV08 is worth the investment for your 3D printing needs.
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To answer a few questions, I was wrong that it doesn’t save the Z offset. It does, but just resets it back to zero. Both of my other Klipper printers don’t behave this way and that’s why I said what I said.
I have also contacted Sovol about the grinding noise. I have since taken apart the printer and examined the Z4 corner further. And sadly I found what appears to be metal shavings from the pulley connected to the motor. Sovol responded the same day and even shipped out a new Z4 module (I hope it’s the whole corner piece) the same day. I will most likely post a short video later on explaining this more. Thank you for listening to my tech talk. 🤓
And make sure to run the resonance tests for X/Y, they now have values that make printing worse instead of better. (the resonance frequency is off by a mile) it's better to use no filter than to use a wrong resonance frequency.
gerGO Print had a similar issue with the grinding noise with all of his Z corners. He was in contact with Sovol support and got it sorted without spare parts - you should probably check out his videos about the SV08.
@@TNX255 I think gerGo said his grinding was actually the threadlock being applied too liberally from the factory causing it get on the motor gears and making friction on the belts. He cleaned it off and it went away.
@@rastercaster Yes, like I said, no spare parts were necessary :)
The clicking noise on your z4 drive is because of too much thread locker used and it got in the belt teeth, you need to take the upright off to gain access to the z drive belt and clean it off.
Small correction. When you save the config for the z-offset, either by clicking the save button in the web interface or on the mounted display, it will get save to the printer.cfg file and that becomes your new z=0 position after restart. Hence the z-offset got reset to 0.
I doubled checked and yes you are 100% right, but that is a very odd way to do it. It definitely confused me and probably others as well.
@@EdsTechTalk94my first week with klipper I went nuts trying to figure out why "it kept resetting to zero". There certainly is a learning curve.
@@EdsTechTalk94 It is a quirk of the Klipper Firmware. As the computing is done on a different chipset (often on a completely different board, like the Pi), the way the way the offset values are saved as they are just happens to be the simplest way to do so across power cycles.
That is not to say it is impossible to make it behave like what we expected of traditional RepRap or Marlin firmware. However, much like installing apps from the Window app store, it is not what Klipper users are used to. So, they will catch far more flags than it worth, if they were to try chancing it.
But my other printers running Klipper keep the Z offset in the spot even after a save and reset 😅
@@EdsTechTalk94 which one? - that is not the default behaviour for Klipper, so they definitely made changes. Either way, it doesn’t really matter.
Remove glue residues from the strips with isopropanol
Took me 30 minutes to assemble, but i have built multiple printers including Vorons, Instructions were super clear to me. Look up how to adjust z offset, do it through the browser and save it to the config. The profiles for the most used materials are on the website as well as a version update. That bed runs hot , for PLA it will warp it if you try to pull it off without waiting to cool some. There are also other calibrations and tunning you can do.
Thanks for the honest and well thought out video. I am subscribing based on it.
I've had major problems with every printer I have bought over the years, until my latest one. But had I bought the exact same printer that works amazingly well (most of the time), right when it first came out, it would have almost definitely been a horrible experience. I base that on reading the forums and seeing what so many people went through, and then seeing as each of the issues were fixed via firmware or other methods.
This may be a good printer a year from now, but for me, I can't afford the time suck, nor the frustration to get one now.
Even if the next printer I get is from the same company that made the one I am happy with, I will still probably hold off for at least 6 months from when it comes out so I can focus on designing and making things and not on constantly fixing a printer that the company should have refined more before putting out to market.
Please update with Solvols response and thank you for your review! Keep it coming.
I emailed this afternoon and will let you know!
@@EdsTechTalk94so... did you get a response
They did! They sent me a new motor and bottom pulley assembly. But they told me it was going to be a while, then it random showed up like 2 weeks after they told it was on hold.
@@EdsTechTalk94 Will you do an updste on the fix and also the "mistakes"? I mean the corrections some people made in the comments.
I'd love to see an update as soon as possible, even better if you find something else broke by hoping you kept using/testing it.
Z-offset will save if you click the big GREEN SAVE button after you're done adjusting it AND it doesn't reset it back to 0. Once the offset is saved, THAT value then becomes the Z0 position to the printer.
Crazy how it’s different from one Klipper firmware to another 🤯
@@EdsTechTalk94 maybe an older klipper vs new? I installed Klipper last week and it does this. and it does SAVE it, just doesn't display the set value.
My Neptune 4 plus isn’t that old 🥺
@@EdsTechTalk94 To be fair, the version of cura that comes with the Neptune's isn't "that old" either lol. it's just 3-4 versions behind, and you know that 1 update can make the difference. It's more of a preference at this point really. I wouldn't care if it didnt' even display it as long as that first layer is going down like butter.
Truuuuuue just didn’t know that some printers reset it and some don’t. Hope we all learned something new. 😂
I have configs for .2 through .8 in Orca Slicer. Also, did you upgrade to firmware 4.27 firmware? It's been out since May 10th? If not, you didn't do much research to help your viewers.
This was to demonstrate what sovol shipped to first round customers, I did say “they shipped it with only 2 profiles” which is true, and I was planning on doing a video on how to update and so on later but considering my machine arrived with problems I’m kinda on a hold with it.
You are right, I should have have said they do have more but wanted to save it for another video. I will add a link to the Google drive for others to get now.
Dim the background music a little maybe make your voice slightly louder but other than that pretty good video bud 👍 can see you having a decent channel with a good base.
Thanks for the feedback! Will consider all that when editing my next video!
Honestly this is like the printer that I'm looking forward to buying the most because that I've wanted to purchase a boron but I just didn't think I'd have the time or effort to build one
I’d would say wait a couple months for them to catch up on demand so quality can improve.
@@EdsTechTalk94 that was my plan honestly wait for them to catch up on demand and the community to make some good stuff for it
The "grinding" noise has been reported by others as caused by excess loctite that got on the belts. Use isopropyl alcohol to clean it off, and no more noise.
you are the first review ive seen who actually bought the printer for themselves and as such didnt get a review sample which is guaranteed to be better QCed.
It’s the first round of a new machine. It’s gonna have issues. I just wanted to point them out, so new buyers are aware of the situation. I love the printer just had to disassemble it after I just assembled it 😅
Your first layer test print is only supposed to be one layer, you have 2, that will mask any errors typically showing up on the first layer.
Thank you for the remark. I honestly didn’t notice. I will keep that in mind for next time!
Sovol cut its cost in the last step of software optimization. So they left it to the community. Good thing everything is opensourced.
They are although posting software updates very frequently and as far as i know already solveld all the problems mentioned in this video
Check the gear on z4 it might have locktite residue on it that can be cleaned up.
I lucked out mibe doesnt make that noise. My only grip with the machine is how hot the z steppers run. I purchased heat sinks for them
I pulled my printer apart and it’s the smaller belt and pulley connected to the motor making the noise. It looks like it’s skipping too, but what’s worse is that I found metal shavings by the pulley and belt 🥲
@EdsTechTalk94 check the fully and gear for residue. Other content creators have found residue build up from locktite, causing that exact sound from your z4
Will do!
Please take down this video and make corrections to it before dissing bad info.
Your opinions about assembly are valid, especially your gap issues, but don't spread info about not auto saving z offsets. That's not how it works.
If you also do more looking into the printer config, the start print gcode doesn't run auto z offset.
Again, please take this video down as it is a poor representation of what klipper can do. Please study the firmware, printer, config, and come back with new findings
It’s not misrepresentation when 2 of my other Klipper printers both save the Z offset and still show it. It’s a difference in firmware. And yes I was wrong that it doesn’t save it but I wasn’t wrong that it doesn’t show it like other Klipper printers, making it a misleading representation on the current Z offset.
@@EdsTechTalk94 It's not a difference in firmware... It's still running klipper. You don't know how to proper use the auto Z offset and you don't understand how to save the z offset. I will go toe to toe with you all day on this.
Understand the klipper firmware better and make changes. I have been able to update the start_print macro to account for a fresh z offset on every print.
Hey dude, I never claimed to be an expert. In fact, in one of my previous videos. I even said “im far from an expert” it must be nice to be such a perfect person like yourself. You should start your own channel! 🤓
@@ss1gohan13 lighten up Francis
That rattling sound is probably the famous loctite thing
It is but I also have some nasty grinding going on that caused metal shaving to appear underneath, so Sovol is sending me replacement parts 🥲
I can’t even print anything 😭
What do you think about the injection molded parts on the gantry? Because to me that't the deal breaker woth this printer. Until someone make a metal replacements for those. (perhaps in black too :D )
They seem rigid, I don’t think they will fail but I also don’t want to even try to take one apart right now 😅
So many screws, belts, and pulleys I don’t want to mess something else up 😅
Don’t get me started on the color 🙄😂
@@EdsTechTalk94 :D you dont have to.... I feel you :D
Do you currently prefer your SV08 or your Neptune 4 Plus?
Because I returned my 4 Plus and now ordered a SV08
That’s hard to answer right now. Considering my SV08 is currently waiting on a new part. So I can’t really push it to its limits.
But what I have noticed is a lot faster print times compared to the Neptune. But an ender 3 can print something with just as good quality as any other machine. It’s just based on how well tuned your printer is.
What a crybaby
Thanks 🤓
Most of your problems will go away if you use a more stable surface. You are killing it rocking it around like that. That is also why the filament is shaking off the spool.
Yea it's only on that table for filming purposes, I'm not complain on the print quality so much as it doesn't have any profiles. But it still doesn't fix my broken corner (z4). I took it apart today and found metal shavings, one of the gears is grinding on the pulley making it skip a lot.
I also have seen more then myself have issues with the spool holder, so I don't if moving it will fix that issue.
Seriously, all you young people complain about a bit of fan noise - try an overnight print job on a dot matrix printer 😉
Probably send you all to therapy 🙃🙃
Aye what a time to be alive 😂
Plus I’m 30, my internet use to make a lot of noise just connecting 🤣
Try “saving” a program on a teletype terminal.
About that gear sound: watch the video from Gergo, he had a very similar issue, it was fixed by some cleaning.
Check gergo 3d prints reviews;-)
Sadly to see u still got the same issues all pre-series machines had
Please mix upp the music! The same song over and over distracts from the content, content is solid tho!
No song is used back to back. Plus only so many good copyright free stuff too use 😅
@@EdsTechTalk94 Didn't think about the copyrights🙃. Try clicking around in the ASUS ROG ally unboxing VS How much flow can you handle. And you'll hear what i mean. Again the rest is spot on keap upp the good work! 😁👍
I’ll look into it. Thanks again for the suggestion! Always greatly appreciate feedback!
The rattling of that one Z belt is probably excessive lock-tite ooze which dried up on the belt. Clean it with some pure alcohol and you should be good to go
It’s been fixed but sovol sent a replacement part due to metal shavings appearing under that same pulley.
@@EdsTechTalk94 Alright, some other issue then after all... Glad it's been fixed
Is there an update on your machine did they make it right is it printing perfect or at all
They sent me a new motor to replace my faulty one. Which fixed the grinding noise.
Other than that it has been working perfectly fine. I did convert it to mainline Klipper to add the Eddy sensor but that was me being a tinkerer.
@@EdsTechTalk94 awesome glad to hear
Yea it’s been a great printer. A lot of mods available for it. It beats building a voron if you don’t have the time or money really.
The build seemed straight forward, there didn't seem to be directions on the steps to calibrate. I didn't get the WiFi to work, adding a Klipperscreen to the SX08 I could select the WiFi hotspot but it would not ask for the password, it would just start connecting without the password and fail, tried the wifi.cfg method, no luck and finally plugged a ethernet cable in but still failed to connect. Another Makerbase POS with fans trying to keep the overheated controller cool.
Sounds like a bad board if it won’t accept the WiFi info. I’d contact support for some help. I have no advice for you on this one sadly.
in Klipper, if you save the z-offset it will then show as zero but it is saved. You're just at your "new zero"
I’ve come to find that out. My only concern is that every other printer I have using Klipper doesn’t reset the offset to zero after it saves and resets.
@@EdsTechTalk94 I'm curious, are they machines you switched over to klipper or machines that came with Klipper? My Sv06+ and Vyper both change the new value to 0, but you can see the actual value in the printer.cfg.
Ender 3 is running off a pi 4 so that’s obviously not stock. But my Neptune 4 plus is stock with Klipper.
The grinding noise is nothing to do with the hardware. It is an assembly problem in the factory where the threadlock lock residue splashed on to the drive belts. You just need to use IPA and clean it. This noise is the "ticking" noise issue. Another YTer had the same problem with a noisy drive mechanism. And it was diagnosed the same. The printer is moslty pully belt reduction. So cleaning the threadlock will do the job. The belts are all high quality Gates manufactured.
My only concern is that I also found metal shavings under the pulley 😳
I don't understand the criticism that you have to save the Wifi access data on a USB stick and then plug it in? I find this much more convenient than having to enter a long wifi password on a small touchscreen and much more privacy-friendly than having to install an extra app to send the wifi credentials to the printer.
I just found it difficult for something that should have been so easy. I had to try 4 different times for it grab the WiFi info. Didn’t change anything on the usb, but had to restart it several times. I thought it was broken at first. That’s why I have such a big deal with it.
Yeah and especially with this printer, there even isn't a touchscreen but a small knob screen! How annoying would it be to use that to enter your wifi password :D
Let’s be real, this should have shipped with a touchscreen 😅
@@EdsTechTalk94 And add a 100 bucks to the cost for something you don't need once you have wifi connection to your PC/laptop
ofcourse the Z-offset dosent save you didnt press the save button
When you run the z offset calibration off the printer it does save it just under the printer config file and the reset it back to zero on Klipper
hm... it still looks nice...
how would you rate the quality of the prints? compared to lets say bambu labs
I do not own a Bambu but a print is only going to come out good if you a tuned profile and printer. And ender 3 can produce the same quality print as a bambu, it’s just the speed and features that are different.
My prints came out good. Only a few rough spots on the test prints but since it’s kinda broken I don’t want to run it at the moment.
still 0 out 0f 5 video you are just nippicking weird stuff
I’d love to your review on the SV08, tag me on X!
You mean you don't value his input on the printers color or choice of frame texture? LOL
@@Posey3DStudios nope and his weird obsession with the manual and taking points off, becorse some of the wordings are being weird, and then complaining about the print it does for the z ofset witch is actually stated in the manual meaning he didnt even read the manual yet still complains about it.
And the z ofset not saving witch is a klipper thing not a printer thing as klipper saves the ofset to the config and resets the ofset to zero on all the klipper printers i got it only shows if it has been live adjudsted and not saved yet.
and complaining about the display being small is a weird thing to nitpick about.
when a display isnt needed as one controls klipper via network, the screen is just there to make some things easyer and everything dont need a touch screen and that will also increase the price of the unit.
and complaining about there only being 2 profiles when he didnt even update the printer.
and checking for new updates and updating anything one just has unpacked is standard practice.
and complaining about the profiles not being tuned for HIS own silk filament like what.
the included profiles has been tune for Sovol filament so some tuning is required when using diffrent filament thats just simple logic.
and complaining about having to put the wifi info on a usb whats so wrong about that, its a bit easyer then the way some others do it.
it honest just seems like he wants it to be bad and then just complains about very weird stuff that mostly is his own opinion and makes that a fact
You should start a RUclips channel! 🤓
@@EdsTechTalk94 no i got a real job
Is your machine square? It looks like the right side is a lot higher than the left.
That might be the framing of the video. I think my floor is uneven.
Do a video on how to import the profile into Orca. Would be useful to some.
I’ll try to do a short on that tomorrow!
there is a very easy and clear description linked at the downloadpage of the sovol profiles
I agree but some people like a visualization
You could do with some concrete paving slabs for the printer to sit on, for my X1 Carbon I used a standard size paver, for my Ender 5 Plus printers I used some slightly smaller pavers on each corner, I sprayed the pavers with Plasticoat so they did not scratch my table tops.
they work great and stop lots of the vibrations.
That table is only for my videos, I have a more stable work bench for my printers but I do plan on adding some for all mine as I’ve heard it helps put a lot!
I am having some grinding noise issues and of course the Wi-Fi doesn't work
Contact support! I have already sent my email today about my machine sadly.
My wifi didn't work because it didn't like the USB stick I used. I reused the one that came with it and updated the firmware and it went fine.
That’s really odd it didn’t like the included usb 😂
Feels like overly nit picking to me
Who is leslie that you talk so much about?
Come again? 😅
@8min "P.I.E. sheet"
😅 it happens
Skill issue
What a weird comment :D How is anybody to know what you are even referring to :D
My assembly experience by comparison was a breeze. Despite the manual suggesting screwing each leg in one at a time, I socketed them all in before screwing. Then it only took the lightest amount of pressure to seat them. The only real issue I had was that my nozzle came clogged from the factory. Luckily the included cleaning tools were exactly what I needed to deal with it.
Glad its not all the printers with the fitment issue. I luckily did not have a clogged nozzle!
Regarding your negative points:
The front leg brace alignment thing, with a gap on the right side and a flush fit on the left, is normal on the SV08. Yeah, it's annoying for OCD types but doesn't hurt anything.
The color is certainly subjective. I also think it looks extremely cheap and reminds me of extremely cheaply made China plastic waste. But it's the Sovol color.
The Z offset shown on the front page in Mainsail or Fluidd is a live Z adjust. If you actually calibrate Z offset (such as built-in calibration in Fluidd, not sure what Mainsail has for this), this is saved to the printer config.
As for the corner clicking, that seems to be normal for the SV08 so far. Hope this gets fixed in production soon. All 4 corners of my machine do it to varying degrees.
I’m glad it’s not just my machine that had the gap. It sucks it’s so common though.
The color is definitely a personal preference thing. I understand the color they picked, just wished they would consider what people might prefer. I’m also noticing how cheap the injection molding is. I found one side to have a heat press either missing or it got press way too far down compared to the other side. (Just noticed last night)
I’ve come to learn that about the Z offset, and definitely won’t forget that one 😅
As for the pulleys making the awful noise, it’s the lock tight getting on the belts. But even after cleaning it with IPA, it did stop making the noise for like 5 minutes then it returned sadly.
@@EdsTechTalk94 I’ve tried cleaning mine and while it helped the clicking, it didn’t eliminate it. One axis now makes a horrible noise. Early adopter issues…
Have you contacted Sovol on replacement parts?
@@EdsTechTalk94 Yes, I have sent emails since receiving my unit a couple weeks ago. A friend who ordered his and hasn’t received it yet also sent an email. No response from Sovol yet.
I'm sorry to hear that, but don't feel bad. I got a response saying they were going to send me a new Z4 module. Then like 12 hours later got another email saying its going to be delayed an unknown amount of time.
They should have replacement parts on hand for this reason.
ed i like your energy in this video. would love to see a video of this with a 0.8mm nozzle
I plan on doing a whole video on just upgrades and stuff like that!