Believe it or not but the Chalice Shortcut has gotten even shorter. I'll link a spreadsheet here for those who want a look at the new process: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TiNyY_kIva9fW2Xt40aNs01rRNYl_UnbkOPs1qIerg8/edit#gid=137014422 Also while I'm here, I'll answer some common questions I've noticed over the past year: _Does this shortcut require Online?_ In order to connect with other players and their chalice glyphs, you both need Online and be subscribed to Playstation+. Once you have connected with a player's glyph, you will have access to that glyph while you're offline (and after your PS+ sub expires) provided you don't delete the chalice. _I don't understand a lot of this jargon, is there a simpler guide to chalice dungeons?_ I'm glad you asked. I'm in the process of making a Chalice Dungeon 101 video and I will explain, as simply as I can, what the purpose of the chalices are and how they could actually hold a lot of appeal for some of you out there. The point of chalices isn't just to be a grind but we'll touch on that soon enough. I hope the new decade has been treating y'all well so far. Here's to the next day!
Great video. Really, amazingly well-made. Just a note: I didn’t realize that the false depth dungeons are considered “cheating” by some, including the Reddit admins. I had a post deleted from Reddit for asking about these. Just a note of caution to anyone trying to learn more.
Reddit is sjw garbage anyways. You still need to kill depth 4-5 bosses, and farm depth 5 bosses with your hp halved in the frc's to get what you want. Hardly any cheating going on there. Its not like you are saveediting or anything.
@@lettuceprime4922 You act like, lets say, people dont get banned in 5 minutes tops for merely mentioning Jawbreakers or Cyberfrog in the comicbooks sub, or that the creators got banned as well though they didnt even post anything at all.
@@metalliclark86 1. that's one sub lol 2. deserved in the case of Jawbreakers. that writer is lucky he hasn't gotten sued for libel yet. 3. don't pretend like those comics haven't surpassed their indiegogo targets _because_ of the bullshit politics of their creators.
@@lettuceprime4922 Libel? How so? They have tried to made zack and ethan look bad in ms media and failed, if they had a solid ground to stand on they wouldve used it already. Bullshit politics? Lol, the whole movement is to create quality CB deprived of them. Even normies are tired of it, batman is lucky to move 40-50k copies a month, and thats what the friggin squirrel girl used to move a couple years ago. You made claims with no proof. Ive already got the most debate out of you, lets keep Bloodborne politics free, since they just released an article in kotaku about how dark souls' messages are sexist, this is the only one left lol. Good day.
@@notsogrand2837 Any exclusive would do better if they weren't exclusive, but exclusives sell consoles and from software we're approached by Sony then funded by them back in 2012.
@@your3rdgrandma994 The problem is that it's always going to be on that system forever until either and emulator comes out or the owner of it decides to resell it on a new system. Timed exclusives are the simple solution here.
Usually you have to beat ebrietas (normal game) to get the great isz chalice. Then you have to offer pearl slug 3, arcane haze (25!), ritual blood 9 and 11'500 echos to open that chalice. Instead of that type zwmn9yzn and you open the great isz chalice without offerings or beating ebrietas in normal game. just watch his spreadsheet. there are many glyphs you can do by beating pthumeruh boss 1 and 2. after that you can already farm for glyphs that powers you up. My saw cleaver+7 does 535 dmg already. The point is.... you need that if you want plat the game or pvp. But pvp is pretty dead. If you don't want platinum (queen) then no need to touch the chalices. Most ppl do that for fast 200 bl builds or even 300.... but that is another story.
@ws01 nn You are right. Bloodborne is gorgeous and a bit horrifying. Unfortunately pvp was never its great strength. Somewhat like DKS 3. Why else are there private servers to make pvp in demon's souls still possible?? After 11 years of its release?? But you need an asian copy and some contacts. I'm lucky I have both. And on weekends we still fight like crazy. demon's only. dark souls is pretty dead either. sry for my limited english ^^ Last but not least - I love Bloodborne. Never spent so much time fighting enemies /environment. Well Dragon's Dogma comes pretty close. But you have to dig deep into combat tactics. It is awesome. Here a vid from a "pro" DD gamer. He plays every class in several ways. link: ruclips.net/video/hkzEvedGcJs/видео.html
Alright let’s get to the chase ....”thebro”. Thank you, for being a voice on RUclips for the Bloodborne community and sharing this information along with the build making guide. It’s such a beautiful game and you’re right, some people get turned away by the amount of work you need to do in order to make a build and or prep for gem farming. Hopefully this will encourage some more players to try out the meta pvp or in the least just sparks an interest to pick up Bloodborne again. Thanks for what you do man, and Xtrin, I appreciate you cutting our chalice Hell time in half 👋🏻
The false depth dungeons have been out for about a year now, and I've fully explore all the layers of all the dungeons. There's a Blood Rock on layer 3 of jgn2kkw (have to go through a Maneater Boar and Beast-Possessed Soul) and of p2tbyrh2 (have to go through a Maneater Boar and Undead Giant). Not to mention the first room of the p2tbyrh2 labyrinth I've found to be the best for leveling up fast to meta or higher, and I went in there with just a +6 weapon and like... +5% gems and no armor, so it's doable. Granted that was my second character and I was used to running the dungeons (fully clearing them out) on my previous one... but just doing more damage. What I *didn't* know was that there were enemies worth farming for anything higher than +14% gems in those dungeons. Granted I already had 3 perfect cursed droplet gems for every one of my weapons from the Winter Lanterns. From layer 3 of dtx7qxbq there is a guaranteed cursed radial gem with +22.5% physical Atk and an increase stamina cost. If someone's doing a fire build, there's a +20.3% waning fire gem from layer 2 of dgt23fwp. I have a video showing where to find the Blood Rock of p2tbyrh2. If Blood Stone Chunks can be farmed from any of the accessible chalice bosses, it could be possible to have a +10 weapon with good gems by Vicar Amelia. Also if someone can't brave the false depth chalices, they can farm the Watcher guarding the boss lever on layer 2 of Lower Pthumeru for up to +20.6% cursed gems, though getting to it would take a bit longer, but you're not forced to do the Defiled Chalice for them. These are usually radial, and it *can* drop bolt, fire, and arcane gems of the same value. I believe the adept gems go up to +24.5%.
Shinku no Yami just a question, theres no way to get a Pthumeru ihyll root from false depths right? I did everything in the video and got an frc isz but i need is the ihyll root
That's an interesting question, because I left another comment with a link to my fight with the Ebrietas from p2tbyrh2. It wasn't just my first time fighting Ebrietas from that dungeon, but my first time fighting Ebrietas in the game period. No Izs Root Chalice dropped. I haven't gotten a single chalice from them. I only have the chalices you get for doing Pthumeru, Central Pthumeru, Lower Pthumeru, Hintertomb, and Lower Hintertomb. These are the dungeons I've fully explored, and what drops I've found/bosses I've fought on each layer (bosses in parentheses, layers separated by a comma, and any drops that were just Great One's Wisdom (meaning I already had the loot) are "???"). *nzzn259g* - Uncanny Burial Blade (Beast-Possessed Soul), Dissipating Lake (Loran SIlver Beast - Crawling), Clear Deep Sea (Pthumerian Elder) *5jne4scm* - Logarius' Uncanny Wheel (Keeper of the Old Lords), Uncanny Chikage (Maneater Boar), ??? (Amygdala) *9nheuvvz* - Lost Chikage (Keeper of the Old Lords), ??? (Watchdog of the Old Lords), Red Jelly (Headless Bloodletting Beast) *dgt23fwp* Anticlockwise Metamorphosis (Loran Silverbeast), Waning +20.3% Fire Damp Blood Gem (Beast-Possessed Soul), Fading Lake (Loran Darkbeast) *jgn2jkkw* - Clockwise Metamorphosis & Oedon Writhe (Maneater Boar), Ring of Betrothal (Beast-Possessed Soul), Blood Rock (Bloodletting Beast) *agh38eit* - Clawmark (Blood-Starved Beast), Red Jelly (Loran Silverbeast - Crawling), ??? (Abhorrent Beast) *dtx7qxbq* - Blood Rapture (Merciless Watchers), Ludwig's Uncanny Holy Blade (Keeper of the Old Lords), Lake & Radial +22.5% Cursed Tempering Damp Blood Gem w/Stamina Cost (Pthumerian Descendant) *xc284ugx* - Communion & Formless Oedon (Beast-Possessed Soul), ??? (Undead Giant - Twin Blades), Lost Reiterpallasch (Headless Bloodletting Beast) *p2tbyrh2* - Eye (Maneater Board), Triangle +43.8 Odd Arcane Blood Gem (Undead Giant - Twin Blades), Blood Rock (Ebrietas, Daughter of the Cosmos) Most of these are 100% accurate, but some like the different Lake runes or a gem or two might be mixed up. I wasn't keeping a checklist while running the dungeon, but was more by memory after doing 2 or 3, so the Lake runes and gems might've gotten mixed up. I decided to go with what the wiki said, but in case it's wrong, this is where I have it written I found them: Fading Lake - Layer 2 of *nzzn259g* Dissipating Lake - Layer 2 of *xc284ugx* And I don't remember getting that Triangle Odd Arcane gem from *p2tbyrh2* , but I DO have that gem, so it could've come from there. Otherwise, the rest is what I had written down. The Blood Rock from *p2tbyrh2* is on video, as is the Eye rune, and the Ring of Betrothal, and I pretty much recorded every fight I did with the layer 3 bosses, showing their drops, and a few of the other layer bosses. No chalices were dropped from any of the dungeon glyphs I listed. There were some rare materials from coffins and chests. I do remember some Yellow Vertebrae, but I just didn't list them all. So you will find more than what I listed. These are just all the weapons, runes, and gems I remembered... and some materials. Also, aside from the Clawmark which is tier 2, the rest are tier 3. I believe even the Lake ones are their strongest.
The Root chalices do not drop in every false depth where you can fight these bosses. You need to kill them in specific glyphs. These are 3aqbyx95 for Ihyll Root, zqxwj9g4 for Lower Loran Root, and zwmn9yzn for Isz Root, as the video says.
Well, Ali Sleeq said they did everything in the video, but still needs the Ihyll Root. I haven't really been looking for those chalices personally, but I don't know what to say to him then. At least it's good to know it's not that the dungeons have changed.
I really wish you didn't need PlayStation plus for this. I don't use my PS4 for multiplayer so it's really not worth the money for me. It'd still be cool to get some of these crazy gems on single player characters.
Make a ps acc and start the free trial, you only need a payment method, which it works with a gift card so you don't really have to put your credit card
Amazingly well put together, I really appreciate the amount of work put into this video, it was a pleasure to watch. :) I'm hoping this will help reinvigorate the Bloodborne PvP scene, or even encourage players who haven't dived for top tier gems until now to try depth 5 root chalices - this is where the real fun begins after all! Thank you for this helpful guide~
Hopefully this helps some people at least try the pvp. Good vid man, thank you for actually listening to the bloodborne pvp community... most of the youtubers don’t even bother doing that. Because unfortunately we are not as big and vocal as the ds community, which is why I am so vocal at times(a little too vocal at times). Anyhow this video is very helpful to the new and some of the old alike. Thanks for doing this vid. Cheers!
The last time i tried pvp with a completed build i died from a single light attack... Whats the recommended points for HP? Because apparently 40 isn't enough
@@zytha2890 If its around the 120-150 Level meta, 50 Vitality and the best clockwise rune you have (+% HP). Otherwise, for anything less...a lot. HP is a vastly underrated stat for many first getting into PvP. I'd say if you're going to outfit your PvP weapons with the best cursed blood gems you can get from depth 5 chalice dungeons, you may as well boost your vitality as much as possible after reaching each of your damage stat soft caps. For PvP under level 80, getting 25 in your main damage stat (strength, skill, bloodtinge, arcane) is good enough and you can then focus on farming your gems and boosting your vitality. The only real difference beyond that is if you are running an arcane build and need to hit certain thresholds to use your desired hunter tools. tl;dr, get as much HP as you can in Bloodborne via stats and runes. In PvP, you can always farm better gems to boost your damage once you hit your damage stat soft cap(s) (25 and 50).
Hytha Telice aye I just saw this, meta is 120, you want to have at least 47 vit and up... but I generally never go below 50. 50-70 vit I where you want to be. Vit gouge is very effective in this game.
This is without a doubt the easiest to understand and most comprehensive guide out of all of the ones I have seen. Really good job, thanks for helping your fellow Hunters out by giving actually helpful tips.
'Seriously. What the fuck are you on about mate?' was statistically the most used phrase at From when explaining what he had in mind when he wanted to include Chalice Dungeons in this game.
Saint riot talked about FD chalices last October. After some searching I finally found glyphs. I use them to get endgame runes and 21% gems, but I didn't know you could get depth 5 root chalices. Thank you so much for putting out a guide on these highly obscure parts of the game!
Honestly, as a new player to Bloodborne and Souls games in general, your channel has been incredibly helpful. I'm hesitant to start dungeon diving atm, but I'll definitely be revisiting this video in the near future and I'm just glad it's a thing to help noobs like me.
I have spent 1 week and a 1/2 Google searching and trying to find all of this. And I couldn't t find anything, but this man explained it all. Thank you very much
Thanks for getting the word out about these dungeons. Hopefully we can keep working with XTrin and the Prospectors to further improve the farming slog. It's so nice being able to farm radial elemental gems. Maybe this will bring some people back to the community. And get some people off their asses to try an arcane build for the first time since it's actually a fairly reasonable farm now XD
Your videos were the final push for me to pick up a PS4 and this game. Have been absolutely in love with it for the month or so that I've had it. Thank you fam. Here's to hoping the static dungeons get expanded to make new builds easier.
I encountered one of those false depth chalices today by accident by searching through online chalices. I was so confused why a pthumeru layer 1 chalice showed up as a loran chalice and assumed I just didn't understand how the search worked. Glad this video showed up in my recommendations, this is great to know!
One thing i always kinda hated was how they forced you to play through the chalice's, this doesnt seem half bad for those of us who, have no problem with the difficulty of the higher tier dungeons, but just find it an absolute snooze fest to slogg through them all, the chalice dungeons seem awesome your first couple playthroughs, but by your 25th your really hating the idea. Least for me.
@@BullFrogFace it's actually pretty fun the first like 45 mins or so, or even your whole first playthrough if you find that kind of gameplay loop to be fun. But after your 25th time it starts to get pretty tedious, but I can replay the base game and dlc over and over and never get bored.
@@LIBERTYorD34TH I used the game guide and spedran the dungeons for the ritual mats and the beast claw, even at max speed it is NOT worth going thru all of that for the pthumerian queen.
This game can get tough Dungeons 4-5, so this is a Great Guide for those travelers. I am not so good, skillwise, made it to Level 4 Dungeons on first playthrough at launch, I do play offline and I stopped playing when there just one or two Blood Rocks available. That Pissed me off. Put game aside until very recently. Downloaded DLC upgraded ALL good weapons to +10 and I am revisiting, Due to Offline Play I cannot take advantage but thanks for a Well Made Video!!! Oh and This game could be my Favorite Soulsborne Games, due to fast pace and NO Shields!! This game really Holds Up!!!
You can get 3 blood rocks from one chalice dungeon with entering a "low level" glyph, that is, a glyph you can enter when you have pthumeru chalice 1 from Blood starved beast.
Marvelous, just utter beauty. You're doing gods work Jim by actually making an informative and reasonable guide to one of the most hated parts of Bloodborne. If it wasn't for RUclips I would probably abandon Bloodborne's pvp and never come back. Thank you so much, keep up the good work man.
this is a perfect tutorial made confusing only by nomenclature from the game. not your fault; in fact, you’ve done great defining these obscure terms and presenting advice in a cohesive and concise manner. you absolute madman
I'm a total noob highly enjoying this game in 2020 (better late than never!) This is the most concise guide that gave me clarity on how Chalice Dungeons works and how to get stronger - believe me i've searched for hours. Thanks and I really appreciate it!
This is a beautiful beautiful piece of content thank you & all the other peeps for making this happen! 1 of my favourite games ever just got 10 times better! Time to get a Blood tinge build going 😁🙏🏻
Also had a good bit of luck with the makeshift altar chalice. It’s been constantly giving me zullies glyphs as well as elias and such. Such wonderful human beings. Happy hunting!
Thank you for uploading another video JM, i really like the fact that even when everyone is putting their attention onto Sekiro, you're still just doing your own thing and keep the fun train going. And even if i don't play Bloodborne, i really do like your content because of you made it. Thank you JM.
I wonder if he's been into Nier: Automata lately with all these songs from it d; love the video, I'll be sure to use this next time I delve back into BB! :)
This has been immensely helpful. I'm fairly close to finishing 2 of my primary builds with much time saved. Going for build #3 and perhaps a different one (or two) for PVE co-op too. I appreciate the help, Jim. Same goes to all of the Tomb Prospectors as well.
Awesome! You and the Tomb Prospectors are credit to this community. This is my first time playing Bloodborne so I will need your advice, but I already know the next time I will really appreciate being able to skip chalice dungeons.
For early triangles, use False-Depth Glyph 258eatgn and farm the watcher in the bonus room before second lantern. Climb the ladder, drop down into the square room, then go into the circular room and run to the left. He's at the top of a staircase in front of a sarcophagus. His drop rate is abysmal but he gives up to 25.3% Tempering.
This is by far the best way to play through the chalice dungeons, the dungeon charts makes gems worth farming and also make them diverse enough to not get bored because you choose whitch one you want to go to
Chalice Dungeons were a mistake. You also forgot to mention the most important part, pay Sony extra money to be allowed using your own internet connection after buying their product.
Welp, here I am at Return to Yharnam 2019, finally learning about this False Depth extravaganza! This will make things SO much easier, and faster! Thank you for this beauty of a video! ♥️👌 Gonna' start delving now..
This is some seriously great info. I've heard of these false depth dungeons before, but never really knew what they were. Hope you continue making these Bloodborne videos!
Great video. Forcing players to endure this much trauma just to be competitive in PVP is just terrible game design. It's a damn shame because in every other way Bloodborne is a brilliant game.
This video is great; i would only argue about this "make build fast"...it´s faster than doing all story Chalice progression but still you need a good BL ( 70+/-) in order to take those depth 5 dungeons down
before i lost my PS4 ~6 years ago, the thing i fantasized about most was taking the parasite to the next level and tricking it out with all the best gems possible. i'd still think about it on and off whenever i yearned for this game. last month, my buddy gave me his old PS4, and with the help of this vid, i took the plunge. and less than three hours of savescumming later, i had the three best possible gems (short of off-shape) with the highest values possible on both positive effects, with my preferred negative effect. i have never felt so blessed by RNGeezus and somehow i feel indebted to you too because this shit is so convoluted to someone with only a fragmented memory of it. thank you
Thank you for taking the time to do this! Honestly, I think this helps an incredible game to maintain its players and maybe encourage new ones to try pve and even pvp :). Also, NieR: Automata music
Thank you based JM! This is a great guide that I look forward to using very soon. I’m glad you included the thing about getting the sinister lower loran too. Not enough people know about that.
Wow that is awesome. I wish you uploaded this like two weeks ago though, my arcane build that I finally got around to doing took about 20 hours in the chalices. Never again!
I actually love the Chalice dungeons... which is weird because I get really sick of dungeon diving shit like Diablo games, but I guess the soulsborne combat system combined with it is what makes it fun for me. That said, still happy about you guys putting these shortcuts out there. I've been grinding through every dungeon which is fun, but I do want to actually play the rest of the game sooner rather than later. ty!
I know this is an old comment, but for anyone wondering: The dungeons contents/loot can not be changed with Save Editor. Your PS4 wouldn't be able to recognize a truly "hacked" dungeon someone with a jailbroken PS4 might make.
Holy shit this is huge just started my quaterly new playthrough of bb and was dreading having to do all the chalice dungeons again due to how long it takes. Thanks so much for this
Don't know if im just stupid as hell, (who am i kidding, ofcourse i am) but i found this guide very confusing for me as a newer player. I have completed most of the main game, but all of these glyphs, paths and whatsoever seems confusing as hell. Probably very good video and guide, but sorry, im too stupid to understand
Invisius1 i am also new to this game...tbh, i am also a bit confused. I thought playing this game was like going along with the story & progression , but there were much more
You know, I swore to myself I'd never set foot in those blasted dungeons again, but I just recently started a new game for The Old Hunters DLC, and this might be worth doing.
Believe it or not but the Chalice Shortcut has gotten even shorter. I'll link a spreadsheet here for those who want a look at the new process:
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TiNyY_kIva9fW2Xt40aNs01rRNYl_UnbkOPs1qIerg8/edit#gid=137014422
Also while I'm here, I'll answer some common questions I've noticed over the past year:
_Does this shortcut require Online?_
In order to connect with other players and their chalice glyphs, you both need Online and be subscribed to Playstation+. Once you have connected with a player's glyph, you will have access to that glyph while you're offline (and after your PS+ sub expires) provided you don't delete the chalice.
_I don't understand a lot of this jargon, is there a simpler guide to chalice dungeons?_
I'm glad you asked. I'm in the process of making a Chalice Dungeon 101 video and I will explain, as simply as I can, what the purpose of the chalices are and how they could actually hold a lot of appeal for some of you out there. The point of chalices isn't just to be a grind but we'll touch on that soon enough.
I hope the new decade has been treating y'all well so far. Here's to the next day!
How the hell did I miss this video
ymfah 😉
Now do chalice dungeons 🅱️L4
@@yeetme3032 he has done it
@@yeetme3032 not
ymfah Right? I can't believe i just found this.
Great video. Really, amazingly well-made. Just a note: I didn’t realize that the false depth dungeons are considered “cheating” by some, including the Reddit admins. I had a post deleted from Reddit for asking about these. Just a note of caution to anyone trying to learn more.
Reddit is sjw garbage anyways. You still need to kill depth 4-5 bosses, and farm depth 5 bosses with your hp halved in the frc's to get what you want. Hardly any cheating going on there. Its not like you are saveediting or anything.
@@metalliclark86 - lel. bad so they're sjw. right.
@@lettuceprime4922 You act like, lets say, people dont get banned in 5 minutes tops for merely mentioning Jawbreakers or Cyberfrog in the comicbooks sub, or that the creators got banned as well though they didnt even post anything at all.
@@metalliclark86
1. that's one sub lol
2. deserved in the case of Jawbreakers. that writer is lucky he hasn't gotten sued for libel yet.
3. don't pretend like those comics haven't surpassed their indiegogo targets _because_ of the bullshit politics of their creators.
@@lettuceprime4922 Libel? How so? They have tried to made zack and ethan look bad in ms media and failed, if they had a solid ground to stand on they wouldve used it already. Bullshit politics? Lol, the whole movement is to create quality CB deprived of them. Even normies are tired of it, batman is lucky to move 40-50k copies a month, and thats what the friggin squirrel girl used to move a couple years ago. You made claims with no proof. Ive already got the most debate out of you, lets keep Bloodborne politics free, since they just released an article in kotaku about how dark souls' messages are sexist, this is the only one left lol. Good day.
It's great to see a game made in 2015 and not as popular as dark souls get so much praise... praise
*PRAISE THE SUN*
Nah, fear the old blood and grant us eyes.
Praise the blood give into it and become the pale moon
Would've done alot better had it not been a PS4 exclusive
@@notsogrand2837 Any exclusive would do better if they weren't exclusive, but exclusives sell consoles and from software we're approached by Sony then funded by them back in 2012.
@@your3rdgrandma994 The problem is that it's always going to be on that system forever until either and emulator comes out or the owner of it decides to resell it on a new system. Timed exclusives are the simple solution here.
Am I the only one who's completely lost understanding how the hell this works
Usually you have to beat ebrietas (normal game) to get the great isz chalice. Then you have to offer pearl slug 3, arcane haze (25!), ritual blood 9 and 11'500 echos to open that chalice. Instead of that type zwmn9yzn and you open the great isz chalice without offerings or beating ebrietas in normal game. just watch his spreadsheet. there are many glyphs you can do by beating pthumeruh boss 1 and 2. after that you can already farm for glyphs that powers you up. My saw cleaver+7 does 535 dmg already.
The point is.... you need that if you want plat the game or pvp. But pvp is pretty dead. If you don't want platinum (queen) then no need to touch the chalices. Most ppl do that for fast 200 bl builds or even 300.... but that is another story.
Sr Leigh nope, you’re not alone friend. :(
@ws01 nn You are right. Bloodborne is gorgeous and a bit horrifying. Unfortunately pvp was never its great strength. Somewhat like DKS 3. Why else are there private servers to make pvp in demon's souls still possible?? After 11 years of its release?? But you need an asian copy and some contacts. I'm lucky I have both. And on weekends we still fight like crazy. demon's only. dark souls is pretty dead either.
sry for my limited english ^^
Last but not least - I love Bloodborne. Never spent so much time fighting enemies /environment. Well Dragon's Dogma comes pretty close. But you have to dig deep into combat tactics. It is awesome.
Here a vid from a "pro" DD gamer. He plays every class in several ways. link: ruclips.net/video/hkzEvedGcJs/видео.html
@@fallenclouds3281 I get invaded all the time, even at odd times as night. Not sure if dead is the right word.
@@Raezor85 I dont get invaded, what level are you?
Alright let’s get to the chase ....”thebro”. Thank you, for being a voice on RUclips for the Bloodborne community and sharing this information along with the build making guide. It’s such a beautiful game and you’re right, some people get turned away by the amount of work you need to do in order to make a build and or prep for gem farming. Hopefully this will encourage some more players to try out the meta pvp or in the least just sparks an interest to pick up Bloodborne again. Thanks for what you do man, and Xtrin, I appreciate you cutting our chalice Hell time in half 👋🏻
The false depth dungeons have been out for about a year now, and I've fully explore all the layers of all the dungeons. There's a Blood Rock on layer 3 of jgn2kkw (have to go through a Maneater Boar and Beast-Possessed Soul) and of p2tbyrh2 (have to go through a Maneater Boar and Undead Giant). Not to mention the first room of the p2tbyrh2 labyrinth I've found to be the best for leveling up fast to meta or higher, and I went in there with just a +6 weapon and like... +5% gems and no armor, so it's doable. Granted that was my second character and I was used to running the dungeons (fully clearing them out) on my previous one... but just doing more damage.
What I *didn't* know was that there were enemies worth farming for anything higher than +14% gems in those dungeons. Granted I already had 3 perfect cursed droplet gems for every one of my weapons from the Winter Lanterns. From layer 3 of dtx7qxbq there is a guaranteed cursed radial gem with +22.5% physical Atk and an increase stamina cost.
If someone's doing a fire build, there's a +20.3% waning fire gem from layer 2 of dgt23fwp. I have a video showing where to find the Blood Rock of p2tbyrh2. If Blood Stone Chunks can be farmed from any of the accessible chalice bosses, it could be possible to have a +10 weapon with good gems by Vicar Amelia.
Also if someone can't brave the false depth chalices, they can farm the Watcher guarding the boss lever on layer 2 of Lower Pthumeru for up to +20.6% cursed gems, though getting to it would take a bit longer, but you're not forced to do the Defiled Chalice for them. These are usually radial, and it *can* drop bolt, fire, and arcane gems of the same value. I believe the adept gems go up to +24.5%.
Shinku no Yami just a question, theres no way to get a Pthumeru ihyll root from false depths right? I did everything in the video and got an frc isz but i need is the ihyll root
That's an interesting question, because I left another comment with a link to my fight with the Ebrietas from p2tbyrh2. It wasn't just my first time fighting Ebrietas from that dungeon, but my first time fighting Ebrietas in the game period. No Izs Root Chalice dropped.
I haven't gotten a single chalice from them. I only have the chalices you get for doing Pthumeru, Central Pthumeru, Lower Pthumeru, Hintertomb, and Lower Hintertomb.
These are the dungeons I've fully explored, and what drops I've found/bosses I've fought on each layer (bosses in parentheses, layers separated by a comma, and any drops that were just Great One's Wisdom (meaning I already had the loot) are "???").
*nzzn259g* - Uncanny Burial Blade (Beast-Possessed Soul), Dissipating Lake (Loran SIlver Beast - Crawling), Clear Deep Sea (Pthumerian Elder)
*5jne4scm* - Logarius' Uncanny Wheel (Keeper of the Old Lords), Uncanny Chikage (Maneater Boar), ??? (Amygdala)
*9nheuvvz* - Lost Chikage (Keeper of the Old Lords), ??? (Watchdog of the Old Lords), Red Jelly (Headless Bloodletting Beast)
*dgt23fwp* Anticlockwise Metamorphosis (Loran Silverbeast), Waning +20.3% Fire Damp Blood Gem (Beast-Possessed Soul), Fading Lake (Loran Darkbeast)
*jgn2jkkw* - Clockwise Metamorphosis & Oedon Writhe (Maneater Boar), Ring of Betrothal (Beast-Possessed Soul), Blood Rock (Bloodletting Beast)
*agh38eit* - Clawmark (Blood-Starved Beast), Red Jelly (Loran Silverbeast - Crawling), ??? (Abhorrent Beast)
*dtx7qxbq* - Blood Rapture (Merciless Watchers), Ludwig's Uncanny Holy Blade (Keeper of the Old Lords), Lake & Radial +22.5% Cursed Tempering Damp Blood Gem w/Stamina Cost (Pthumerian Descendant)
*xc284ugx* - Communion & Formless Oedon (Beast-Possessed Soul), ??? (Undead Giant - Twin Blades), Lost Reiterpallasch (Headless Bloodletting Beast)
*p2tbyrh2* - Eye (Maneater Board), Triangle +43.8 Odd Arcane Blood Gem (Undead Giant - Twin Blades), Blood Rock (Ebrietas, Daughter of the Cosmos)
Most of these are 100% accurate, but some like the different Lake runes or a gem or two might be mixed up. I wasn't keeping a checklist while running the dungeon, but was more by memory after doing 2 or 3, so the Lake runes and gems might've gotten mixed up. I decided to go with what the wiki said, but in case it's wrong, this is where I have it written I found them:
Fading Lake - Layer 2 of *nzzn259g*
Dissipating Lake - Layer 2 of *xc284ugx*
And I don't remember getting that Triangle Odd Arcane gem from *p2tbyrh2* , but I DO have that gem, so it could've come from there.
Otherwise, the rest is what I had written down. The Blood Rock from *p2tbyrh2* is on video, as is the Eye rune, and the Ring of Betrothal, and I pretty much recorded every fight I did with the layer 3 bosses, showing their drops, and a few of the other layer bosses. No chalices were dropped from any of the dungeon glyphs I listed. There were some rare materials from coffins and chests. I do remember some Yellow Vertebrae, but I just didn't list them all.
So you will find more than what I listed. These are just all the weapons, runes, and gems I remembered... and some materials.
Also, aside from the Clawmark which is tier 2, the rest are tier 3. I believe even the Lake ones are their strongest.
The Root chalices do not drop in every false depth where you can fight these bosses. You need to kill them in specific glyphs. These are 3aqbyx95 for Ihyll Root, zqxwj9g4 for Lower Loran Root, and zwmn9yzn for Isz Root, as the video says.
Well, Ali Sleeq said they did everything in the video, but still needs the Ihyll Root. I haven't really been looking for those chalices personally, but I don't know what to say to him then.
At least it's good to know it's not that the dungeons have changed.
You should do a good vid on all these, or at least publish a good doc or spreadsheet.
One small error: The Sinister Lower Loran is in the 3rd LAYER of the Lower Loran, not the 2nd Layer.
;_; not on steam
invisiblesurge44 Who cares? Find yourself a console peasant, fam.
And if you already have the base game, the dlc is on sale for 6 dollars.
@@o.o.4238 ive owned since release, bought the dlc a couple weeks ago, just sad i cant have it on steam instead.
is this is legit strategy for all achievements speedruns? I mean it should be, there is no online interaktion happening after all.
I really wish you didn't need PlayStation plus for this. I don't use my PS4 for multiplayer so it's really not worth the money for me. It'd still be cool to get some of these crazy gems on single player characters.
Make a ps acc and start the free trial, you only need a payment method, which it works with a gift card so you don't really have to put your credit card
@@wonderboy3525 And just continue to make more accounts with that payment method and set the ps4 as primary. You'll never have to pay for ps plus!
Ya gotta to pay to play online, get used to it
@@lieutenantgonads too much work, I'll just pay
me too :/
Amazingly well put together, I really appreciate the amount of work put into this video, it was a pleasure to watch. :) I'm hoping this will help reinvigorate the Bloodborne PvP scene, or even encourage players who haven't dived for top tier gems until now to try depth 5 root chalices - this is where the real fun begins after all!
Thank you for this helpful guide~
Thank you for figuring stuff like this out. I can finally make a pvp build now.
Thank you Trin for all that you've done.
yes
You should start a religion man
Hopefully this helps some people at least try the pvp. Good vid man, thank you for actually listening to the bloodborne pvp community... most of the youtubers don’t even bother doing that. Because unfortunately we are not as big and vocal as the ds community, which is why I am so vocal at times(a little too vocal at times). Anyhow this video is very helpful to the new and some of the old alike. Thanks for doing this vid. Cheers!
Hey add me on psn bro I'm trying to get to meet the BB community and give the PVP a real try. My psn is Ze666ro420.
The last time i tried pvp with a completed build i died from a single light attack...
Whats the recommended points for HP? Because apparently 40 isn't enough
@@zytha2890 If its around the 120-150 Level meta, 50 Vitality and the best clockwise rune you have (+% HP). Otherwise, for anything less...a lot. HP is a vastly underrated stat for many first getting into PvP. I'd say if you're going to outfit your PvP weapons with the best cursed blood gems you can get from depth 5 chalice dungeons, you may as well boost your vitality as much as possible after reaching each of your damage stat soft caps. For PvP under level 80, getting 25 in your main damage stat (strength, skill, bloodtinge, arcane) is good enough and you can then focus on farming your gems and boosting your vitality. The only real difference beyond that is if you are running an arcane build and need to hit certain thresholds to use your desired hunter tools.
tl;dr, get as much HP as you can in Bloodborne via stats and runes. In PvP, you can always farm better gems to boost your damage once you hit your damage stat soft cap(s) (25 and 50).
Hytha Telice aye I just saw this, meta is 120, you want to have at least 47 vit and up... but I generally never go below 50. 50-70 vit I where you want to be. Vit gouge is very effective in this game.
Because bloodborne pvp is a dumpster fire of oneshot builds and vial spam.
Ive never seen anyone mention both rehvion And yhmfah in one vid... I love both so yay😁
You're one of the most interesting and informative dark souls/bloodborne youtubers out there. Keep up the good work lad.
This is without a doubt the easiest to understand and most comprehensive guide out of all of the ones I have seen. Really good job, thanks for helping your fellow Hunters out by giving actually helpful tips.
'Seriously. What the fuck are you on about mate?' was statistically the most used phrase at From when explaining what he had in mind when he wanted to include Chalice Dungeons in this game.
And then they smoked the same shi and said hell yeah
Saint riot talked about FD chalices last October. After some searching I finally found glyphs. I use them to get endgame runes and 21% gems, but I didn't know you could get depth 5 root chalices. Thank you so much for putting out a guide on these highly obscure parts of the game!
NieR: Automata music
What’s even better about the 8-bit versions of the NieR: Automata OST is that they’re official tracks from the OST. 👌
Instalike just for the sound, NieR:Automata is a great game. But also big thanks for this trick, it ll be very helpful for me)
10/10 video. I've been slogging through depths 1-5 for YEARS until I found this video yesterday. Well deserved bump.
I love how this video halfway switches into another language that probably only the old ones understand
Honestly, as a new player to Bloodborne and Souls games in general, your channel has been incredibly helpful. I'm hesitant to start dungeon diving atm, but I'll definitely be revisiting this video in the near future and I'm just glad it's a thing to help noobs like me.
I have spent 1 week and a 1/2 Google searching and trying to find all of this. And I couldn't t find anything, but this man explained it all. Thank you very much
Thanks for getting the word out about these dungeons. Hopefully we can keep working with XTrin and the Prospectors to further improve the farming slog. It's so nice being able to farm radial elemental gems. Maybe this will bring some people back to the community. And get some people off their asses to try an arcane build for the first time since it's actually a fairly reasonable farm now XD
It was pretty fun going Hunter's Torch Glass Cannon.
Your videos were the final push for me to pick up a PS4 and this game. Have been absolutely in love with it for the month or so that I've had it. Thank you fam. Here's to hoping the static dungeons get expanded to make new builds easier.
i’ll never understand what they were thinking adding in this chalice and blood gem bullshit
Always come back to your video every time I go back to BB. You have provided so much value with this video
Thanks for the help, thanks for the NieR Automata ost for making it sweeter.
One of my favorite videos on RUclips.
I encountered one of those false depth chalices today by accident by searching through online chalices. I was so confused why a pthumeru layer 1 chalice showed up as a loran chalice and assumed I just didn't understand how the search worked. Glad this video showed up in my recommendations, this is great to know!
One thing i always kinda hated was how they forced you to play through the chalice's, this doesnt seem half bad for those of us who, have no problem with the difficulty of the higher tier dungeons, but just find it an absolute snooze fest to slogg through them all, the chalice dungeons seem awesome your first couple playthroughs, but by your 25th your really hating the idea. Least for me.
Yea, I have 5 different characters and Im dreading doing all of that 5 times
I haven't even done the chalice dungeons and I dread having to. I've played through the game and dlc 3-4 times
@@BullFrogFace it's actually pretty fun the first like 45 mins or so, or even your whole first playthrough if you find that kind of gameplay loop to be fun. But after your 25th time it starts to get pretty tedious, but I can replay the base game and dlc over and over and never get bored.
@@LIBERTYorD34TH I used the game guide and spedran the dungeons for the ritual mats and the beast claw, even at max speed it is NOT worth going thru all of that for the pthumerian queen.
This game can get tough Dungeons 4-5, so this is a Great Guide for those travelers. I am not so good, skillwise, made it to Level 4 Dungeons on first playthrough at launch, I do play offline and I stopped playing when there just one or two Blood Rocks available. That Pissed me off. Put game aside until very recently. Downloaded DLC upgraded ALL good weapons to +10 and I am revisiting, Due to Offline Play I cannot take advantage but thanks for a Well Made Video!!! Oh and This game could be my Favorite Soulsborne Games, due to fast pace and NO Shields!! This game really Holds Up!!!
You can get 3 blood rocks from one chalice dungeon with entering a "low level" glyph, that is, a glyph you can enter when you have pthumeru chalice 1 from Blood starved beast.
Anyone else count how many Soulstuber references Jim made in this video?
I noticed the rhevion one
Marvelous, just utter beauty. You're doing gods work Jim by actually making an informative and reasonable guide to one of the most hated parts of Bloodborne. If it wasn't for RUclips I would probably abandon Bloodborne's pvp and never come back. Thank you so much, keep up the good work man.
"...so unless you're into S&M, in which case I don't judge, I am too..."
Ah, I See You're a Man of Culture As Well. *wink wink*
Whip whip**
I don't get it
@@octupleye3489 That's good. Now get a juice box and sit with the other children.
Dastardly_Duo is S&M the same thing as BDSM? I’m assuming it’s the same
Waste place I cant tell you the details cuz im no expert, but I can safely say that all S&M is in BDSM, but not everything in BDSM is in S&M, i think.
thanks, nice to see the game is not being forgotten and a lot of people still play it and make videos about it
From should rename the Maneater Boar in the Hintertomb chalice to Rehvion
If they did, it would boost my self esteem. It sounds much less pathetic to lose to Rehvion then Maneater Boar.
@@LCHIGO420 wait
did you die to Maneater Boar
this is a perfect tutorial made confusing only by nomenclature from the game. not your fault; in fact, you’ve done great defining these obscure terms and presenting advice in a cohesive and concise manner.
you absolute madman
Wtf???? This is the greatest video I’ve never seen. Praise the su- I mean the good blood!
I'm a total noob highly enjoying this game in 2020 (better late than never!)
This is the most concise guide that gave me clarity on how Chalice Dungeons works and how to get stronger - believe me i've searched for hours.
Thanks and I really appreciate it!
This is a beautiful beautiful piece of content thank you & all the other peeps for making this happen! 1 of my favourite games ever just got 10 times better! Time to get a Blood tinge build going 😁🙏🏻
Also had a good bit of luck with the makeshift altar chalice. It’s been constantly giving me zullies glyphs as well as elias and such. Such wonderful human beings. Happy hunting!
absolute MADLAD with the Madmans build! great vid!
Congratulations for this platinum journey! I just got my own platinum today! It was very satisfying 😎
Awesome vid dude, bloodborne is my favorite game and this made it even better
Thank you for uploading another video JM, i really like the fact that even when everyone is putting their attention onto Sekiro, you're still just doing your own thing and keep the fun train going. And even if i don't play Bloodborne, i really do like your content because of you made it. Thank you JM.
I wonder if he's been into Nier: Automata lately with all these songs from it d; love the video, I'll be sure to use this next time I delve back into BB! :)
This has been immensely helpful. I'm fairly close to finishing 2 of my primary builds with much time saved. Going for build #3 and perhaps a different one (or two) for PVE co-op too. I appreciate the help, Jim. Same goes to all of the Tomb Prospectors as well.
I wish this was an option before I finished all 10 of my builds ;-;
True :'(
Awesome! You and the Tomb Prospectors are credit to this community. This is my first time playing Bloodborne so I will need your advice, but I already know the next time I will really appreciate being able to skip chalice dungeons.
For early triangles, use False-Depth Glyph 258eatgn and farm the watcher in the bonus room before second lantern.
Climb the ladder, drop down into the square room, then go into the circular room and run to the left. He's at the top of a staircase in front of a sarcophagus. His drop rate is abysmal but he gives up to 25.3% Tempering.
Thanks
😅😅
This is by far the best way to play through the chalice dungeons, the dungeon charts makes gems worth farming and also make them diverse enough to not get bored because you choose whitch one you want to go to
Chalice Dungeons were a mistake. You also forgot to mention the most important part, pay Sony extra money to be allowed using your own internet connection after buying their product.
I literally zones out of every single word you said at the end because of that amazing 8 bit version of Weight of the world. Amazing
Literally almost asked if this worked on ps4 cause you said game code editing. Caught myself lol
Welp, here I am at Return to Yharnam 2019, finally learning about this False Depth extravaganza!
This will make things SO much easier, and faster! Thank you for this beauty of a video! ♥️👌
Gonna' start delving now..
This stuff mad confusing
This is some seriously great info. I've heard of these false depth dungeons before, but never really knew what they were. Hope you continue making these Bloodborne videos!
Great video.
Forcing players to endure this much trauma just to be competitive in PVP is just terrible game design. It's a damn shame because in every other way Bloodborne is a brilliant game.
@@flash1face1 That's like saying that nobody is _forcing_ a runner to use his legs to compete. Technically correct, but in context complete bullshit.
I love the grind of this game, yet i still do the chalice skip, i hate the amount of work needed just to get the FRC Chalice.
This video is great; i would only argue about this "make build fast"...it´s faster than doing all story Chalice progression but still you need a good BL ( 70+/-) in order to take those depth 5 dungeons down
"How to skip chalice" meanwhile all this video is about going thtu chalices😭😭😭😭
Dude please make more bloodborne content. You're doing a fantastic job and this game is very much still alive!
I don't mind the dungeons until the Defiled Watchdog and the Abhorrent Beast
before i lost my PS4 ~6 years ago, the thing i fantasized about most was taking the parasite to the next level and tricking it out with all the best gems possible. i'd still think about it on and off whenever i yearned for this game.
last month, my buddy gave me his old PS4, and with the help of this vid, i took the plunge. and less than three hours of savescumming later, i had the three best possible gems (short of off-shape) with the highest values possible on both positive effects, with my preferred negative effect. i have never felt so blessed by RNGeezus and somehow i feel indebted to you too because this shit is so convoluted to someone with only a fragmented memory of it. thank you
Literally everyone: Write that down. WRITE THAT DOWN!
Sitting here about to start a new character, decide to RUclips some builds, this pops up.
Hell. Yes.
So complicated when I just want weapon dmg number go up
I’ve recently started doing the chalice dungeons, this video has helped a lot.
NIER: automata sountrack (8-bit):
"Birth of a Wish"
Banged my head against Defiled Amygdala for an hour last night before going to bed, woke up to this. Thanks a ton. :)
This video is a GEM that needs more Blood splattered all over it.
I'm doing my first bl4 run right now and this is going to help a lot!
Jesus I just made one and am already suffering hahahaha
Thank you for taking the time to do this! Honestly, I think this helps an incredible game to maintain its players and maybe encourage new ones to try pve and even pvp :). Also, NieR: Automata music
This makes the game actually fun to play.
I fucking HEARD that Nier soundtrack, you can't hide it
Great info, JM. This is great to hear! This is actually making me consider leaving low level PvP. Temporarily of course.
16:02 Where’s the “Smash” button. I want to “Like” it.
Thank you based JM!
This is a great guide that I look forward to using very soon. I’m glad you included the thing about getting the sinister lower loran too. Not enough people know about that.
Great work Jim! I hope these dungeons will allow more people get their feet wet with PvP, especially at meta level (bl120!)
See you around Hunters 👋
I come back to this video every 2 years I get the itch to come back to bloodborne. Thank you
11:25
Why you gotta be killing my man saints riot like that
Wow that is awesome. I wish you uploaded this like two weeks ago though, my arcane build that I finally got around to doing took about 20 hours in the chalices. Never again!
Still too complicated
Wow don't even play the game at that point
Is it quit, stop it get some help
I actually love the Chalice dungeons... which is weird because I get really sick of dungeon diving shit like Diablo games, but I guess the soulsborne combat system combined with it is what makes it fun for me. That said, still happy about you guys putting these shortcuts out there. I've been grinding through every dungeon which is fun, but I do want to actually play the rest of the game sooner rather than later. ty!
I wonder if it's possible to include OP gems in chests via coding, that would make it even better lol.
I know this is an old comment, but for anyone wondering: The dungeons contents/loot can not be changed with Save Editor. Your PS4 wouldn't be able to recognize a truly "hacked" dungeon someone with a jailbroken PS4 might make.
This is an excellent guide, I have no idea why it doesn't have more views.
"Like that smash button" awsome :D
Have I ever told you how much I appreciate you?
A like for the Nier Automata song.
Luan Alves Neves A like for the hollow knight profile pic
@@alienplatypus7712 thanks, I made this cardboard mask for my nephew, but I liked it more than him. Lol
Holy shit this is huge just started my quaterly new playthrough of bb and was dreading having to do all the chalice dungeons again due to how long it takes.
Thanks so much for this
I accidentally deleted a character that had all the bloodgems I needed, this will save me so much effort
Thank you for the Nier Automata music, really caught me off guard and I was pleasantly surprised.
False depths are considered cheating? That sounds like jealousy from plebbit. I have a lovely ‘depth 1’ depth 5 glyph I keep reusing 😂.
Am I the only one who like just cause of the amount of effort this guy put into this?
What level is a good level for low-level PVP in blood-borne
And sorry for all the levels
4
Paytopia you cant be invaded until you're level 30, so I do bl43. Let's you invade the lowest level possible and all the way up to around bl70ish
realized what the backround music was half way through. you just got a sub.
I don't understand any of this slang
This will help with making a different build since my previous builds needed to go through the entire slog prior to seeing this video
Thanks so much
Don't know if im just stupid as hell, (who am i kidding, ofcourse i am) but i found this guide very confusing for me as a newer player. I have completed most of the main game, but all of these glyphs, paths and whatsoever seems confusing as hell.
Probably very good video and guide, but sorry, im too stupid to understand
Invisius1 i am also new to this game...tbh, i am also a bit confused. I thought playing this game was like going along with the story & progression , but there were much more
I'm NOT new to this game at all and don't undertstand this shit either
I can help explain to you guys, if you would like. Just ask, I'd be glad to!
@@stockingsstuffer6302 you have discord man bc I didn't get this if you still play this game my discord is tyronsosa11 #6153
@@tyronsosa4616 sure man! mine is it's moonpie#2391
Excellent video, especially since the Old Hunters DLC is causing a nice little bump of players. Thanks for keeping up to date.
You know, I swore to myself I'd never set foot in those blasted dungeons again, but I just recently started a new game for The Old Hunters DLC, and this might be worth doing.
"Skip Chalices"
So uh, what if I don't have PS Plus
*raughs*
Then there's no reason for you to make a pvp build.