An 'Almost New' Ex-VIP Boeing 787 Will Be Scrapped For Spare Parts
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- Опубликовано: 2 май 2024
- It feels like ‘just yesterday’ that the Boeing 787 emerged as a brand new aircraft type with cutting edge technologies meant to lower costs for airlines while enhancing the long-haul travel experience for passengers. In many ways, the 787 is STILL an aircraft that employs the latest technologies but it looks like the type’s older examples are getting scrapped.
In this video, we’ll look at the specific 787 airframes and the reasons why they are being dismantled…
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Can't remember the last time we got some positive news from Boeing
You can't get positive news from a company that refuses to do good practices.
Do orders for Boeing aircraft count as good news for Boeing? Just asking
@@EuropeanRailfanAltyea
@@EuropeanRailfanAlt they're lucky to be getting orders
@@EuropeanRailfanAlttrue
An interesting story. Maintenance is what keeps aircraft flying. I’m not surprised to hear about the scrapping of the 787. Recycling aircraft components has been a big business for some time.
The early 787's were all overweight, and the first ANA aircraft were confined to domestic routes because the extra weight canceled out the supposed fuel savings. Boeing scrapped several in a remote corner of Paine Field and there were a bunch of them that had "issues" and sat at Everett for years until finally being reworked. At Boeing, we called these Legoliners "teenagers".
$25 million for a 787? Now that's depreciation on another level. And those engines at that price? Quite the bargain
Worked on a bunch of those...... they were total garbage. Below LN 10 they were complete 💩 LN6 was flooded, and had black mold growing in the carbon fiber.
But isn‘t LN6 still in service?
@@jaky2484 It was sold to the Mexican gov't as a BBJ.
"and had black mold growing in the carbon fiber."
I had no idea it was possible!
"But isn‘t LN6 still in service?"@@jaky2484
As VIP for mexico I belive
They are called terrible teens and are not conform with the type design.
Even the Tupolev Tu-114 lasted more than the first 787s
"lasted" meaning?
@@CubicSpline7713 stayed in commercial service
Only 32 Tu-114 were built, 1,118 787 have been built so far. Great comparison.
It was much more heartbreaking when a 747-8 with less than 100 hours of flight time was scrapped (N458BJ). What a stupid waste of money.
I believe it had less than 30 hours
And resources… they should fine them for the waste!
@@khalidabdulghani This plane may still beat that dubious record. It's seven years old and has been in storage for seven years so chances are it's only flown five hours from South Carolina to California and then two or three hours from California to New Mexico. That's less than 10 hours.
"747-8 with less than 100 hours of flight time was scrapped"
!! do we know why?
Was this the 1st -8?
If it was that explaines it.
Goodness - makes the scrapped A380s seem positively ancient!
Boeing B52s flying for 70 years
Boeing 787s "flying" for 7 years 😂
Save the door plug bolts.
I'm not sure why this is news.
"Also, water is wet. The wild story, coming up at 7. Back to you in the studio, Todd."
It's pretty early to start scrapping these
Half of the world's flyable DC3's are gone in the last 20 years. Worth 3X as parts on Ebay.
Due to the many problems with Boeing including delays of delivery of new 787,s it stands to reason scrapping older less used examples are going to be big business as spares are going to be in very short supply. Now we could go into the many reasons why they are being scrapped such as a tax loss on a capital procurement to the airline going out of business but no aircraft especially one so reliant on electrical power do well standing out of use and the cost to get them started back as a flying examples cost would be prohibitive.
While somewhat rare, new, almost new and low time airliner airframes do get retired and scrapped. A 747-8 international (passenger version) has been sold and moved to a location where it is to be scrapped. This was an expensive executive conversion which had somewhere around only 100 hours on it. I was surprised to hear it was being scrapped instead of sold and modified for a new life elsewhere.
waiting for the 737 max to get scrapped one day
Me too
Give it another year or so lol
Then ya gotta wait another decade or so until Boeing decide to create a new clean sheet aircraft
You read my mind; the 737 Max program needs to be scrapped !!! Bring back the 757 and put a " flex wing on it!!! Problem solved !!! "Too much like right, " as they say here in Philly. 😮
Maybe the first MAXes, delivered in 2017, might get scrapped in 2032, 15 years after they entered service with Malindo Air (now Batik Air Malaysia)
Air NZ has had years of problems with the 787 with Trent 1000 engines.
Should have bought 🇺🇸GE engines
There may be some bolts that are unavailable.
Bolts, we don't need no stinking bolts. On the up side their plains are more stealthy now.
Sad to see. The 787 is a magnificent machine, and has never suffered a fatal accident since its first delivery in 2009, a testament to its excellent design.
Too bad that Boeing have lost their way lately, if only they could come back to their senses and resume production under strict quality control measures, we would be able to enjoy these great aircraft for much much longer.
Notice you wrote fatal accident. It has had plenty of accidents and was a literal dumpster fire at launch with several burning down.
@@zeitgeistx5239 It's hard to make the first models of something as innovative as the 787 work perfectly when they are new. Airbus still hasn't matched many of the 787's new features.
The “Terrible Teens” sound like the aviation equivalent of factory seconds. Perfectly well and good for a frying pan or a pair of slacks, but an _airplane_ ?
Some 787s do need parts so this will help ✈️
A parts shortage incentivizes bad actors to create counterfeit parts and try to sneak them into the supply chain for sale. We've seen this time and time again. There was one busted last year of doing this.
So while it's sad to see these beautiful girls being parted, at least we know the parts will help with the shortages and help disincentivize counterfeit parts.
What a joke... 1,000 cycles? American airlines had a GE CF-6 stay on-wing for over 40,000 hours!
But you never know when it's going to toss a stator across the ramp at LAX!
All while we need a massive overhaul of A&P mechanic training programs. This aircraft could be an entire modern training aid with classrooms attached... Or, scrap it.
I am interested to know what happens to the fuselages and wings as they are all composite.
They sell them duuuh
@@Choosewiselyeye To whom? It's not like aluminum aircraft where the metal can be recycled. Airlines aren't replacing whole barrel sections and it's already been proven that the barrels can be repaired. I can see selling access doors, control surfaces, etc. but you aren't going to sell the main parts of the barrels or wings. So...one more time...what are they going to do with them? FYI, I kinda know a thing or two about these aircraft and how they are assembled because I was there and I saw it.
They will get thrown out
@@CineZoneYT but HOW are they disposed of? Come on, people...I didn't think my question was THAT cryptic!
@@rocketsurgeon11 the parts of the fuselage will get broken up into smaller pieces and put in dumpsters.
I'm yet to fly the 787. Hopefully I soon will.
I'll pray it doesn't nose dive while you're on board
@@wadehiggins1114 I'll pray you stop lying.
Don’t bother it’s a piece of shit
aim for Asian carriers for minimal disappointment
@@osasunaitor I'll pray you come out the closet
At last, a Boeing being used for its intended purpose.
How is that it's intended purpose? The 787s are great planes and outperform the competition from Airbus :)
New jets are always worth more parted out as whole.
One of the most, if not the most uncomfortable planes I've flown with.
How? Pretty much all planes are the same in economy. Most likely you chose a cheap airline 🙂.
I found the 787 uncomfortable, I sat on the starboard side window seat DC to Istanbul
I wonder if you removed all the wings vertical stab and figure out a stable platform to turn into a house
Wow good
How?
787 ‘s are a computer nightmare
Scrapped for parts isn’t a correct term. The correct word would be cannibalised, no cannibalism isn’t just about eating your own species, it’s also used to describe the act of using a disabled/incapacitated/non-completed vehicle or object, stripping its parts that are usable and reusing them on another object or vehicle which is either in need of repair or maintenance (but is in reach of being serviceable).
So you would be correct to say that whenever you strip the pieces of a car that’s going to the scrapyard and reuse them as spare/replacement parts, you’re cannibalising.
It feels like 787 just realsed today and are getting scarped tommorow 😢rest in peace to 787s msn 35507 msn 40694 and all 787 that are getting scraped😭😭 rest in peace🫡🫡
Last flew in 787 8 2019 or 2018
We will see more news like this.. Lifecycle time is reduced
Are you an aircraft designer, perhaps?
So the Plastic Fantastic scrapping after 12 years?
i saw the B787-800 as a short haul aircraft to replace the B767 non etops A/C
The first 787 going into its grave together with the whistleblower.
Sort of ironic and sad.
It's the 3rd of the type being scrapped....
im thankful that my normal route is handled by 787s, rather than MAXs.
i remember LN 5. it was my first 787. no matter what is being said or done, we still building.
Are there a 787 in The company Air links in Brazil?
Lots of 787 at GRU every day
So sad that this has to happen to a beautiful airplane. It's very unfortunate.
The word you’re looking for is salvaged. Not scraped
When the carbon fiber fuselage and lighting mesh is exposed to the elements that is a serious problem! -- Aluminum fuselage planes don't need to have lightening mesh wrapped around them. Boeing’s 777X version will has an aluminum alloy fuselage (aluminium-lithium) "which is cheaper than carbon fiber and better than previous aluminum alloys. As a result, Al-Li alloy-intensive aircraft have better fuel efficiency and LOWER MAINTENANCE COSTS!!!" -- see: AI, Aluminium Insider, May 3, 2022. Aluminium-Lithium Alloys Fight Back.
17's an unlucky number, at least to the Italians. In Roman Numerals it'd be written as XVII. Rearranging that gets VIXI, or "I lived" - implying it's dead. Guess the same will be said about this serial number of the 787 too. At least the engines will go to good use, the GEnx are proving to be very capable!
I don't know what Boeing is going to do. In some ways they are fucked, but there is too much riding on them to be *ALLOWED* to be fucked.
Reminds me of a joke I heard at an airport bar (yes, really) the other day.
A United airlines Boeing 737 is approaching a far away airport:
Pilot: Have you got spare parts for the 737Max?
Controller: Sorry we don't.
Pilot: Well, you will soon.
I don't get the joke? The 737 max is very popular and fuel efficient, they will be around for a long time.
@@CineZoneYT jokes are better when they have to be explained lol
There has to be a significant problem with the terrible teens allied to a high value and low availability of spares to make this situation viable which it clearly is as three frames have been or are about to be parted out.
In comparison the A350 which first flew in June 2013 is approaching the same age as the parted out 787’s but, apart from pre-production test airframes no commercial airframes have been parted out.
More than a few of the Terrible Teens are refurbished pre-production airframes. The difference is that Boeing decided they could be sold at a discount instead of being scrapped.
The a350 sticks to older technologies, while the 787 uses many new systems. If Airbus was capable of making something like 787, they would also have some failures :)
They're 21000 lbs overweight
Seems the main problem is a shortage of parts especially change over engine stocks.
My favourite Boeing, after the Queen of the skies... So quiet...
As a passenger, I loved the 787. To bad that the companies using the 787 had so many problems with it that they stopped using it for long-haul flights. Today if I want to fly from Scandinavia to Asia I can only choose Airbus 350.
The 787 and a350 are in different markets. The 777x competes with the a350, and it is actually more popular than the a350!
airbus fan-gal's channel never get late to post anything about boeing
One less nightmare to deal with
hallelujah
@@swagathshettypraise the lord 😂👍🏿
*nightmareliner😂
@@wadehiggins1114 Fact: not a single 787 has ever suffered a major accident yet. You're just a propagandist and a scaremonger. The 787 is a good aircraft despite Boeing's current malpractices.
@@osasunaitor are you forgetting all the fires that grounded it years ago?
the B787-9 BBJ & B787-10 BBJ is the ultimate expression of high-end air travel at a level few can only dream of . . . personally i prefer the B787-10 BBJ with a lavishly appointed functional cabin, good for 38 - 43 paxs + 8 crew . . . able to fly Hyderabad (HYD) - Washington D.C. (IAD) non-stop or Hong Kong (HKG) - Dublin (DUB) . . . don't really like the bedroom concept on large business jets like the BBJ2 & ACJ321 Neo . . . bedrooms are for homes & hotels not some aircraft . . . if Boeing is to sustain in the commercial air travel market the company should stop pursuing the B777-9X program & revert back to making the B777-300 ER wide body jets with new GE90 engines . . . enough time & money has been wasted in the past few years, starting with the B737-MAX debacle followed by the uncertainty over the introduction of the B777-8X & B777-9X . . . infact the B777-9X was supposed to enter revenue services by 2021 - 2022 followed by the B777-8X in 2023 . . . had Bill Boeing been alive today, he'd be very disheartened & sad . . .
actually... that'd be the top of the line business jets of Gulfstream or Bombardier. They're faster, fly higher, and lands at more airports which means shortest possible flight times.
That is fuel efficient and smooth flying due to air blending wing,No reason to scrap.
Rolls-Royce at it again with their trash amount duty cycles both on the 787 and A350
What are you talking about?
The aircraft being dismantled has 2x GE NX engines, manufactured by GE.
@@CubicSpline7713not the case for air new Zeeland also mentioned in the video
@@f0x4nn3
"ZEELAND" is in the Netherlands, nothing to do with ANZ. You're all over the place
with your anti RR rant..........
THEY NEED TO WAIT ANOTHER LIKE 30 YEARS
Last year, I flew on a 787 for the 1st time. I loved it. However, in light of current Boeing news, I am not so sure about putting my trust in Boeing.
*_"An 'Almost New' Ex-VIP Boeing 787 Will Be Scrapped For Spare Parts"_*
Why? Anticipating on the near future when Boeing will no longer produce airliners and sell spare parts? Somebody is gonna make a lot of money by offering almost new second hand Boeing parts within the decades to come. Wanna bet?
Does Boeing make parts?
A lot of subsidiary-companies do. They will be the winners
@@aaltvandenham
Let's say that the water pump from the aft toilet makes a funny noise and protocol demands a replacement. Who are you gonna call? Boeing or the subsidiary? (if you can find the right part and phone number)
Keeping stock is expensive. Especially where airplanes are concerned.
Why would an outsider company with a contract to produces a number of airplane toilet pumps do that? It's dormant capital, They are sleeping assets.
But I'm sure you can provide the facts better than I can.
So please, fill me in.
Je hebt trouwens wel een heel erg Nederlandse naam. Ook op weg naar Koningsdag 2024? Fan van Fokker?
En nu we het tóch over Fokker hebben, waar zou je nog steeds Fokker onderdelen kunnen krijgen? Ik heb namelijk nog een ouwe Friendship bij Eindhoven staan waarvan de asbak vol zit.
BRO THIS SCRAPPING IS WAY TO EARLY
Hahaha
Dreamliner? More nightmare bus.
With what? 0 fatal incidents? Near flawless safety record? Incredible fuel efficiency while also being a revolutionary aircraft?
@@jagermain4207You obviously haven't seen the undercover investigation asking the workers assembling the things if they'd fly on them or not. It's made of cost cutting by cutting corners.
I thought anything with the name Boeing on it would automatically be "terrible".
Then why is the 787 more popular than the a330 neo, and the 777x is more popular than the a350?
@@CineZoneYT Sometimes airlines are just as stupid as people when they buy cars.
@@rollvideo Are you just a salty Europoor mad that you can’t beat US tech?
Lol Beta production models are getting scrapped.
Sell 'em before one pops open in flight! Just say no to plastic airliners! ( Especilaly Boeings from South Carolina!)
They are just not made like they used to …..
All that carbon fiber won’t be recycled. That will eventually become an environmental problem.
Obviously,B787 is an overrated aero planes. They are not as good as Boeing said .
elaborate the statement
You should have told Hawaiian Airlines. They recently received their first of 12 nice new B-787s.
yea, because they haven't had the experience of maintenance with these yet @@fomfom9779
They still being delivered, Hawaiian just got some.
do you perhaps own an airline or are you an airline pilot? if you're neither then shut the fuck up.
"Anyways"???? FFS, learn English.
Boeing is building garbage aircraft and it's sad.
Is this fake news?
airbus fangals channel and followers forgot about AIRBUS 380 disaster😆😆😆
787= Beechcraft starships dismantle the whole lot.