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AMT vs CVT vs DCT vs AT | Which automatic to choose?
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- Опубликовано: 14 авг 2024
- In this video you can expect to understand the various types of automatic transmission that exist in the modern-day automotive world, and how they differ from each other. We will compare AT (Torque Converter) vs AMT vs CVT vs DCT/DSG. At the end of the video, we will tell you which type of automatic transmission to look for based on your specific needs.
Timestamps-
0:00- Intro
0:42- Types of automatics
1:00- Torque converters
2:00- AMTs
3:28- CVTs
4:37- DCTs
5:50- Which to choose?
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a great no-nonsense informative video. I have a Honda Jazz seven speed CVT with paddle-shifters and I can totally relate to what's been said about the CVT gearbox in the video. From my end, thumbs-up
Thank you! Your feedback is encouraging :)
@@Automowheels - He says you get the highest mileage in CVT but I feel AMT wins in mileage section! What's your call?
@@Live_Loud there is no use of buying amt cvt is advanced as compare to amt & amt is not automatic transmission it is like a manual transmission
Good to hear that customers' are learning.
Does your Jazz CVT transmission use computers or is the whole assembly totally mechanical
As with all the pros and cons of each of those transmissions - the one people should choose is the one which fits the most their needs, driving style and location they drive in.
I live in Switzerland and as an Alpine country it has a LOT of hilly bending roads. Actually I spent around 70-80% of my driving time on such roads.
Previously I had Mazda CX-5 with classic Automatic Transmission. I loved that car for its responsiveness and the fact that such a compact AWD car was pulling me out of deep snow every time I needed (thanks to 21cm of ground clearance and good AWD).
At the same time its "choppy" automatic transmission was driving me crazy so often on those hilly windy roads that I used MT most of the time - which I loved, as it gave me always a feeling that i have control over car which, as you can imagine is super important on "serpentines".
Then we bought a car with DCT (DSG) and boy it made such a huge difference! No more chopping while changing the gears, it always knows when to increase or decrease them.
The comfort of driving with DCT in such places is incomparable (I drove cars with CVT too).
But I do realise that risk of something getting wrong with this type of transmission is much higher due to its complexity...
Oh well... that's the risk we have to take to drive far more comfortably and that's why I always ask for additional checks of my transmission every year.
Ich fahre gerade nen Mazda und leider mit Automatik (wollte eigentlich Schalter) und der kann ganz sanft die Gänge wechseln. Nur manchmal muss ers ruppig machen. Keine ahnung warum. Hat auch nix mit der Geschwindigkeit zu tun oder wie viel gas ich geb.
Thanks for your contribution 👍
And your English is verbalized we'll for an international audience too.
Best.
Thanks!
I have been looking to understand this from so looong. Best video ever. Thanks
😊
Simple, short, straight to the point and informative. Thank you!
I repeat what the most upvoted comment says.. "a no nonsense video"...Much Thanks! 😇
Thank you!
I love the CVT on the Lancer Ralliart, it handles track days with no issue, just be on top of your maintenance at all times(Plus installing a reputable aftermarket intercooler will help prevent overheating).
Cvt- fuel and smooth
Auto- for social norms
Manual- to feel engaged with the car
Dct- for fuel efficiency and for performance. (Basically a manual 2.0)
Additional pointer, DCTs are not smooth at a lower speed such as congested city speed/car park etc. They tend to roll back as they lack vehicle creep function like the traditional autos with a torque converter. DCT I feel are more suited for endless highways but not city drive.
Delighted to see a world class video on the topic from an Indian channel. It was simple and straightforward. Thanks a lot 🙏
Glad you liked it 😊
I have a toyota vitz CVT 1000cc. Eventhough car weigh over 970kg It delivers 12.5kmpl in traffic and 20+ kmpl in Highways! Yes Acceleration is slow and rubber band effect hurts at times but in overall Its a great reliable car
Torque converters are the best...it's a all rounder...smooth shifts... economy and cost effective
I am using torque converter, the only issue with AT is a bit more fuel conception than others. I love the smooth gear shift and heaviness when you give more gas. However, I cannot drive a CVT without paddle shift as it gives me the rubber band effect, DCT on the other hand kills me with the performance and its sportiness but it is costly in terms of price of the vehicle and maintenance.
@@sarathbabuthulasibhavanamr7749 CVTs are more efficient with Infinite Gear Ratios.
Have owned dct, cvt and traditional tc auto. On congested roads, dct will make you pull your hair out though, its wonderful on uncongested highways. Cvt is okay for your day-to-day errand run but not suitable, if you're in a hurry or are someone who enjoys a little enthusiastic driving. In my view, tc auto is the way to go in any type of traffic situation or drive style. It does consume a tad more fuel but its so so much worth driving this all rounder transmission.
as someone who only knows manuals, its a new revelation for me that what I thought was a purely automatic cars were actually just AMT cars.
I'd pick AMT. But I never heard of seen them in the US at all and think they might never come here to be honest. But thank you for the informative video.
Thanks from U.S. resident, excellent comparison with 100% substance, no fluff, and relevant to Passat being sold here.
No matter what comes and goes in the market, I stick to Manual car, as it is the best car and one can feel the drive.
The traffic situation in the cities are breaking the legs and backs of people .....automatic is the way forward
DCG is the smoothest for sure but beware, if they go bad then either it’s curtains for your car or a very very hefty repair cost. A piece of advice will be stay away from VW DSG‘s. They are notorious for getting damaged without any prior warning. Rest, everyone has his own personal opinions. Anyways, a very informative video.
The way you present the videos is excellent... but kindly avoid the background music which is disturbing a lot....
Wonderful finally explained well.. im into fuel efficient cars since i live in a traffic country... Got a city CVT. YEAH And i notice it is really fuel efficient unlike my other automatic cars.
Thank you!
Now DCT is affordable through Hyundai venue. Unbelievable performance from a 1L DCT engine.
A proud owner of Hyundai Venue
👍🏻
What's the mileage u are getting?
@@kpvineeth7 Mostly driving in town areas where having traffic congestion. There i'm getting 11-12 and in highways i'm getting 14
This is probably the best comparison video I've ever watched, simple, quick and precise! Great work!
Thanks a lot!
DCT is lighter than AT in term of weight and also compact means it saves more space in engine bay. The cost of manufacturing is not as expensive as AT with same number of gears (6AT is expensive than 6DCT). The downside of DCT is the freaking high maintenance cost. The gearbox is robust but the clutch pack is wear and tear item which designed to last about 250k km. When the clutch slipped it need a replacement. Cost is about USD 600-1000.
AMT is the least applied by car manufacturer as it is the least comfort while shifting and cost is slightly cheaper than DCT. DCT is considered 2 sets of AMT (same machinism) in 1 box which overcome the shifting smoothiness problem meanwhile provides greater fuel efficient and faster gearshift than AMT.
Among AT, CVT, AMT and DCT the best gearbox is AT as it is extremely reliable and smooth. DCT comes second as it is fastest shifting and most fuel efficient but high maintenance and less reliable. Third place is CVT, a gearbox designed for ultimate smooth riding, very fuel efficient and least components applied but accelerating is horrible. AMT is last place, it is cheap for manufacturing, compact size but it is least comfort and most car manufacturers move on to add a set of gear to become DCT. With exist of DCT it almost have no reason for AMT to stay on.
Nicely explained. Your language and delivery is very good
Thanks a lot
I don't want a computer to shift gears in my driving. Standard Manual Transmission is always the best. It is cheap, reliable, fuel efficient and easy to repair.
It cost high & the torque converter is not efficient as the clutch.
Conventional automatic transmission have gone a long way from previous makes. Sure its "less efficient" but the fuel consumption numbers compared to manual transmission has gotten closer and closer with each advancement made. Moreover, AT are more practical than MT nowadays and manufacturers are focusing their R&D more towards automatic transmission.
Indian mentality
Low
Use keypad phone not touched phone
I wonder why you watch the video. My personal view is why sit there prodding a clutch pedal and shoving a gear lever about if you don't have to? Of course you like to make noise when you drive vroom vroom . Me I'm like a lot of people that watch this video I want to get in a car and go from A to B in an easy, leisurely manner. They gave me a manual courtesy car when mine went in for a service. Hated it kept flashing numbers at me to change gear wtf I'm supposed to be in charge glad to get rid at the end of the day.
I’m so glad that good knowledge of cars is spreading throughout the world. I haven’t really delved into the car scene in India but I can assume that it’s quite different than the USA. Awesome to see
Thank you! 😊
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your video is the besta mong all other videos where i gathered nothing..thanku thanku
Thank you 🙏🏻
Thanks,
I choose Manual ones👍
Lol
Mercedes Benz
Great!!!! that’s a man product.....
Hahaha. Nice one.
@@kashifshuja4892 kids drive automatic..
Dct transmissions tend to get in alot of problems in time and fixing them means emptying your bank a/c. Cvt is best in my opinion never felt slow in acceleration maybe depends on different vehicle models or makers.
CVTs are being phased out as they are unreliable and expensive to replace the belt.
@@fivish i have used the car for 6yrs you just need to take care of your car that's it and use the right transmission oil.
You haven't told about pro's & cons of Torque converters 🤔😎
great explanation without wasting too much of my time. thanks
Thanks bro
Thanks, I am a spanish speaker with a small english knowing and I had could understand, your explanation was simple and easy, very good video.
That is so good to know. Happy i could be of help
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Finally, A Well Explained Video, Clearing all d Doubts..That too from a Fellow YCCEian..
Great Job wid all d Animations Bro..
SUBed..!! 🙂
Thanks bro, hope you're doing good! 😊
@@Automowheels Doin Great..
All d Best..!! 👍
4:00 "premium cars like the Hyundai i20" lol, that's endearing :-)
I like your video though. It's a comparison I was looking for.
Proud Owner of Honda Jazz VX CVT... :)
@Tony King I drive 99% in City Conditions in Delhi NCR , so big relief for me. Getting an average of 13.5 kmpl in moderate City Conditions with A/C On.
Tony King Did your car not have engine braking? My current car has a CVT and will engine brake.
@Tony King the availability of paddle shifters in Honda jazz cvt make it very easy to use the engine braking and it works perfectly
howz jazz cvt?
@@prajith2648 It's amazing until and unless you push your car too much during acceleration. Bit underpowered on Hinghways with 5 people on board. Otherwise a superb car, Petrol Engine is butter Smooth and refined, they are extremely reliable, CVT Transmission is extremely reliable but having a Rubber-band effect if pushed hard. The paddle shifters come handy in such scenario. Drive it to believe it. I find Japanese Cars like Honda and Toyota much reliable and long lasting. They might not be offering great on features but its a car you can drive smoothly for next 10-15 years.
Wonderful explained🙌 you saved ton of my time.
Thanks bro
Shankar Anna neenga la.. puthu car vanga poringala !!!
Watch motoroctane vdo for this that vdo is more informative than this
DCT for sure
Thanks for the simple, informative video!
Pick the car you like, want,buy. The transmission you.get you GET!
Wow! I bought the new 2018 Elentra with the dual clutch 7 speed automatic, primarily because it didn't have the CVT / IVT style transmission. I love it! Its characteristics are somewhat like a manual that you don't have to shift yourself. And boy is it quick for a 1.6L. When I buy again, I guess I'll be searching another model or manufacturer that doesn't install these transmission. ...Isn't it an Oxymoron to install a CVT / IVT transmission into a car that badges "Sport"? Though it appears Hyundai isn't doing it with their 2020 Sport model, I do believe many other manufacturers are. There is little chance these transmissions will survive very many hard starts that younger generation put these cars through, especially in hilly locals. I'll gladly give up a mpg or two for a reliable transmission. Once out of warranty, the car owner is in for a real shocker as these transmissions being to fail! $$$$$$
The CVT is a very bad idea as is the automated manual. Both are being discontinued due to early wearout. The DCT is also a bad idea as it has clutches which wear out and are hugely expensive to replace. The torque converter auto box has no downside is likely to last the life of the car. A modern AT will have 37mpg compared to its manual equivalent with 38mpg.
I choose cvt
4k to replace
DCT and CVT are notoriously problematic...they are not robust enough and are costly to repair. If you want reliability then traditional torque converter automatics are the best. The problem is many car producers no longer offer them.
CVT's for daily driver and DCT's for sports cars 👌🏼
Wonderful video! Super informative and easy to comprehend!
Higher price is always best because it best.. Im going to DCT
Fantastic presentation to judge which type of car to be purchased .
Thanks! 😊
Awesome video. Keep up the good work. All the best.
Thanks! :)
perfect and best video I watched tonight!
Nice and informative video. Keep it up, bro!
Thanks! :)
You said AMT offers fuel efficiency at par with manual, and also say CVT gives best possible fuel efficiency: so are you saying CVT will offer better fuel efficiency than manual gearbox?
Yes, cvt offer better fuel economy than manual.
Crazy what a sporty car is in India vs North America !
Cvt’s are still many years away from being reliable and lasting (200,000+miles)
Stick to the regular geared automatic transmissions or manual transmissions,both are proven.
How about the VW automatic transmission DSG?
So the conclusion..which one is better ?
Modern torque converter automatics almost always come with lockup clutches which locks the 2 parts of the torque converter together to prevent power loss. It only opens during gear changes making torque converters just as or even more efficient than manuals due to keeping the car in the optimal gear.
Good one .. explains well. Have experienced the power acceleration of Skoda car ... outdoing even a quick manual shift. But if the DSG unit ( a mechatronics device) fails, which is a rarity , then the vehicle has to be towed and expenses substantial if not covered specifically under the insurance policy . This had been my experience in Melbourne Australia.
I love dsg transmission of vag cars. I drive a 2019 polo and my dad has a 2020 superb, both have dsg. Its very quick to shift and their engineering has become very advanced in the last years and with proper care they will last
Very Well explained..Cheers
Thanks bro
Good video sir about different mechanisms.... Got some knowledge about from u r video.. Thank you sir
Most welcome! 🙏🏻
I have a 2009 toyota aygo with AMT. It‘s horrible in comparison to a „real“ automatic. The shifts are rather slow. But for me, it works just fine. I live on the countryside and dont need to shift a whole lot. And i have 120‘000km without ever having to replace the clutch. So it is rather reliable.
You should re do your video on which transmission is the cheapest one to last the warranty period by a manufacturer.
Soon DCT getting more common and the complexity of it lessens gradually due to more advanced technology in the future. Thus it will become more economical to maintain.
I own DCT
y u dont like the rubberband effect? 😀 its nice, feels like warp speed in old star trek movies hehe
Great video which explains the types of automatic gear box. DO IT IN HINDI ALSO
A very good and easy to understand informative video 👍
Thanks :)
dsg if you wanna fast and smoth gear change, cvt if you wanna fuel saving but not that much acceleration
I drove cvt and found to quite good in acceleration
@@gopiramanujam1060 which one bro
@@ylmazylmaz3779 Magnite. Test driven yesterday and I liked it
used clio cvt its more like no more tork when change the gear need a electric motor the no lack of acceleration
Manual beats the lot - Gives better control, lighter, easier to fix and great to use.
Also feel fun
Can't drink coffee and text while you drive though.
Audi a4 2004 1.9 CVT Multitronic 200.000 miles, and it's amazing, fast shift, very economical, smooth
The Multitronic box on my A4 2.0 LFSI lasted 60K miles. Tiptronic on my A6 2.4 lasted forever.
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I'm proudly using manual..
nothing to be proud of lol
@@jagathjayakumar9634 because u can't drive manual.. That's why talk shit..
But why so hassle in heavy traffic? 😭
Thanks for the useful, to the point info which is easy to understand for the not so tech savvy fellows as well.
Thank you :)
@@Automowheels Well I am a tech savvy person for my part and would like to see a video about 4 wheel drive and All wheel drive vehicles and related jargon like differentials, etc.
Nice presentation but in the end you don't recommend the classic automatic gearbox for any condition. In my opinion it's the best all-around option. It has the most advantages (smooth, reliable) and with the latest technology advances almost none of its former disadvantages. It's much quicker now and with good fuel efficiency. Sure, it's not as fast as dual clutch but it's still fast. Not to mention that dual clutch are quite unreliable and very expensive to fix if something goes wrong. Personally I'd choose classic automatic for all scenarios unless I wanted top performance. In such case it would mean that I could afford a very expensive car in the first place so I wouldn't mind for high maintenance costs of the gearbox (or any part of the car).
All of the above i have a BMW with ZF8hp auto which is reguarded as 1 of the best gear boxes ie fast manual change , smooth auto and good fuel efficiency over a manual.
@@robertebob3596 ZF8HP is such a transmission. You can literally go 200 km/h and have your car be quiet, or accelerate quickly on gears 1-6
@@satsumagt5284 Exactly , i love my car and the best part is the auto box
@@robertebob3596 which car it is, exactly?
@@satsumagt5284 M135i
DCT is the future but the design must be improved further. The DCT cars break more often and fixing them cost a fortune but performance wise, they are the best.
Very expensive to replace the clutches as main dealer only due to need for specialist equipment.
I prefer direct shift cvt
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DCT is my personal choice.
If you get a car with a regular AT and program the PCM/ECM to lock up the torque converter clutch as soon as the car shifts into 2nd gear fuel economy will be much better.
I always go for only manual
MT (Manual transmission ) is all time best with our own control and the best savings of fuel consumption
Bmw zf8 is more economical than the manual version
Thank you. Great info explained in one place.
Happy to help!
Alfa Romero was the first to use AMT , called Salespeed , now it's been made by Magneti Mareli, I wonder how much difference are there between the Suzuki and Fiat's
Add Toyota's MMT (Multimode Manual Transmission) to the list and I guess technology between these models is so similar.
Great video love the manual even in semi-trucks.
I am choosing DCT model
Great explained easy to understand 👍
Thank you 😊
Excellent - simple and clear!
What a great video! I have a TC in my C class. I find the DCT is very jerky in stop/start traffic
AM it’s because you’re not suppose to inch forward in stop and go traffic with a dct. You have to essentially drive it like a manual with no clutch pedal. So as you go to inch forward the clutch can’t fully engage the 1st gear which leads to clutch slip which can destroy your transmission.
Manuel Thodos so how is one supposed to inch forward? 😂
Yup agree on the jerkeyness part. If comfort is what you want go for a TC auto. If you do lots of highways then a DCT should be fine. Never recommend anyone a DCT on congested city roads. It will drive you crazy, if you're not used to it.
Modern DCTs have improved on that issue pretty much. Although wear-and-tear might be higher in order to achieving that.
Thank you for uploading this video.
Most welcome!
EXCELLENT WORK sir, EXCELLENT.
10/10.
THANK You.
( Greetings from 'OZ' )
Many thanks!
The problem with some modern planetary transmissions are mechatronics, needing a TCM reflash for changing a solenoid, it's just too much for me. CVT : no thanks, knowing Nissan (and other brands) history is enough for me. DCT and AMT transmissions are close related in control principles, nevertheless I prefer AMT because the mechanic systems are so simple (like manual transmissions) and AMTs have been used in heavy trucks since some years ago. Well, but honestly, I will choose an AMT only in heavy trucks with a lot of speeds, because in all light cars and trucks, definitely my choice are manual transmissions. Most of the fatigue driving a manual is because the clutch, but when clutch is soft is ok for me, ooh, and a high first gear ratio is really helpful, because you can crawl in traffic jams.
Is cvt a reliable transmittion?
Good video thanks! I'm a fan of the CVT gearbox, it's great especially for smaller/lighter cars.
My 2007 outlander is a cvt transmision but it has a dual clutch
Thank you for sharing valuable information
Thanks for your reference you guide me nice . But I like only Manual
Solid!!!!!
Yeah, your mother is solid
Great guide, thank you
From this video we can tell that the best one is cvt
I beg to differ, it relies on belt drive which cannot handle large amount of load or power. And it has tendency to break when power is demanded immediately!
Durability and reliability for Common AT
Great video... Quick info...
Thank you! Happy to help
Great video! Keep it up!
Thanks! :)
Tata Altroz with DCA is a good option. Just it's average is a bit matter of concern
The summary did not mention the conventional AT. It’s reliability makes it the lower standard cost option over the life of the vehicle. Modern ATs with 6, 8, or even 10 speeds and torque converter lockup can equal or exceed the fuel economy of manuals, AMTs, and CVTs.
I'm not very happy with the choices that are available in cars nowadays. I don't find the options presented in this video appealing at all. There's nothing else to choose from. Guess I just stick with my automatic with low mileage for now.
Is ZF gearbox DCT or Torque converter
8 speed ZF (which is used in BMW) is Torque Converter.
The EAT 6 and EAT 8 which PSA Group use are also Torque Convertor.
EXCELLENT.
10/10.
I have i20 N8 DCT car. Can I change from D mode to S mode in running condition? Will gears change automatically in S mode or have to be shifted manually?
Very informative and good presentation
Thank you :)