Check your local code for the water hammer tube. It’s sometimes forbidden because they fill up with water over time and that water is stagnant and bacteria can grow. Cheers !
@@benjaminpauza159 yes but over time, water will slowly work it’s way in. Really anytime there’s water hammer it has potential to push a little air out. Also they’re not really needed here. Most people don’t close they valve fast enough to create much hammer and pex is flexible enough to handle any small amounts that due happen. I bet he learned from an older plumber because this was a pretty standard practice with copper for many years.
@wesman7837 you've never turned off a long copper pipe then, if you slam the valve closed the pipe jumps all the way back to where it comes into the building, too many of those and you've got a big leak
1/2" Aquapex (Uponor Pex-A) should be 5 expansions, and the expander head should be going in straight and evenly into the tube / expansion ring; upon which, the tube will reach the shoulder of the 1/2" expansion head. The majority of Pex-A leaks are due to people using Pex-B fittings, or no-name knock-off china Pex-A fittings. Improper tool usage, or using a tool without a rotating expansion head, would be the cause for the rest of the leaks. Also, the Blue and Red Aquapex has manufacturing issues and should be avoided. The clear/white Aquapex has had no issues.
@@naro1213 there was a problem with the red and blue tint in UPONOR pex years ago where it degraded the poly. There was a huge law suit against them. They changed the formula. I’m not sure how long ago this was but it was years ago. I’m sure you’re fine.
I could write you a book, and I'm not saying anything about Pex is bad or good, but if you see everything from a Newtonian Physics, and as well as a mechanical stand point, there's a lot of fantastically interesting info out there. Best wishes and best of luck. Your vibe is your "Stsnd Up". I'm rarely wrong!!!
compared to the other available types of PEX, Uponor is the best. Here is why: the Inner Diameter of the pipe with fittings is 1/2", not 3/8". The other types chokes the water down at each fitting.
@nolantanaka565 ive heard about the fully colored red and blue uponor piping failing, but they recalled all of it and started using the white piping with red and blue lettering.
No special tools required? Torch, flux and brush, copper cutter, sand paper, fitting brushes, maybe something to prevent or put out a fire, solder. Installing Pex requires expansion tool and cutter. Nothing else. And it is a proven technology in other countries where it has been in use for decades. US is slow to adopt new plumbing technology
@@digi3218 or just crimp that pipe. Pex A isn’t only expansion. Pex B fittings will work fine with pex a. Just don’t try to expand pex b. Actually watts had a pex b expansion. I don’t know how it worked or if it even did but they had it. I’m guessing it didn’t work well because I was told about it once and then it disappeared.
If you're not using this type of pex you're not profiting the most you can for your business. Most reliable and efficient pex you can use. Not to mention if strategically placed you can avoid and fittings cause it bends without creasing. Just some plastic 90° bends and never worry about fittings in-between walls or ceilings
I have pex- a running to a spigot in the wall. Its leaking, and I need to fix( obviously). I haven't done plumbing since it was copper being used. How do I fix this without buying all the expensive tools?
Friend is finishing up recalled PB water replacement. His system had all those plastic tees were breaking upstairs and flooding his flat. Whats your experience. I prefer brass fittings here.
They might have to be 12” on the arresters. If it starts to hammer drain the whole system and fill it up to recharge it, it should be done annually. Also pex pipe will never melt if in a fire as long as water is in it!
I have used Uponor for several years and its the standard where i live. But i switched over to Sanipex and its the Rolls Royce of pex systems. You get the security of Uponor and the conveniance of a compression fitting. Super easy to install and service. Pluss you dont need batteries and no noise🦾
Love pex for reroutes or running a lot of pipe overhead or something but a wide open wall for a shower valve should be done in copper. This is Lazy plumbing
Copper is the best plain and simple. Naturally occurring antifungal properties, and rodent proof mostly. Was working on a rental property and the tenant had a rodent issue...one of the mice chewed right in to a pex line, ended up with a 12ft stream of water shooting out of the line.
If your water distribution system is designed for a maximum flow rate of 8ft/sec you don't need water hammer arrestors. Also it's in the name P E X = Poly Ethylene Cross linked, it expands which is what you're doing to it to make a connection but will shrink back to it's original diameter. Take a minute, read the manufacturer specifications and don't make a fool out of yourself.
They leak all the time. Pex-A and shark bit are our biggest money maker. Because they fail all the time. I love plumbers like him they keep me busy. Keep doing what your doing.
If you do it right pex a is the better the the crimp style. I've installed plenty of it with no issues and still doing great with 0 issues. Shark bite on the other hand makes me nervous, more of a temporary fix in my opinion. The only problem I can forsee with any pex is if you live in an area where it freezes and you don't have it insulated well, the bands could possibly swell when it expands and come loose from the fittings as it thaws but again if you do it right no worries
I install pex all day long and haven’t had a recall in 3 years. It’s flexible so you use less fittings which means there’s less chances of leaks. Also I don’t do it as casually as this video shows. I make sure to hold that connection tightly until I’m certain it has sealed. Shark bites I kind of agree with you there because I’ll never use them on a new install but sometimes they really come in handy for repairs.
Not sure what you’re talking about. I’ve used pex for two decades and haven’t had any call backs from pipe or fitting failure, other than maybe an error in installation.
I heard there’s a problem with these kinds of fasteners on uponor plumbing that they crack and leak. Has this been resolved as I like this better than the clamping o rings?
If that happens to freeze, the crushed ring will expand and give a loose fitting. Pex A is constantly trying to shrink to it's proper size, so if it freezes and expands, it will also shrink back and not leak.
@@MrImmortalsounds There's real value in being able to quickly identify hot/cold water lines and just because we haven't been able to with in the past doesn't negate that. Building methods have improved over time.
@@tacklebox6239 It's the same story in electrical, you see people who just buy black NM and then tape it white or tape it red, instead of just buying the right color. It's about installing things in a neat and workmanlike manner. You can install things like a bargain handyman or you can install things like a professional.
Yes holds tighter and doesn't corrode. They do have stainless bands but this is better in my opinion. I won't use anything else and it's really fast. Just don't get crazy with the stretching.
@@mikenunya5606 yep, and the connections will get better as time goes on because that pipe is forever trying to return to its original state. It’s also great for tight places. It’s not ideal but you can kink it to get in a tight spot then just heat it and the kink will go away. As for the over stretching, I don’t think it hurts other than slowing you down. I had this apprentice who was lazy as hell. After a year he was coming around and turning into a good hand but then left. Anyway, he had to leave early one day. He was on a ladder putting together 1 1/2 pex. I saw that it was the time he had to leave so I reminded him. He got off the ladder and left and I went back to doing what I was doing. He didn’t even finish the connection he was working on. He left the tool expanded and stuck in the pipe. It’s like as soon as I told him, he immediately stopped and left. Anyway over an hour later I walked in there and noticed the tool and pipe hanging. Out of curiosity I thought I’d see if it would go shrink down. It took something like 10 minutes before the fitting would stay in. It was in an easy are to fix it so I marked it so I’d know where to check if the air test failed. It held and you’d have never known that it was done any different than the other fittings
if you want to reduce water hammer, throw a dual check valve in by the service and install an expansion tank. your method is ancient and does not work. pointless to have even wasted the extra pipe and fittings.
For diy, you can either rent one at a plumbing supply house or get the cinch rings and tool. They sell it at Home Depot and Lowe’s. With it the tool grabs one part of the ring and crimps it so one tool does all sizes. I don’t know about the quality of connection but it’s still in use so it can’t be terrible but I think it’s the best option for diy other than rental
Those water hammer tubes are the stupidest thing you could have done as an outdated probably no license wannabe plumber, those are outdated and really don’t need those at all anyway some places forbid them, you shouldn’t even be allowed to touch plumbing.
Sealed tighter than a frogs ass when it shrinks back! I saw this being used about 20 yrs ago and couldn’t believe it! After sweating copper while a plumber, it got me to reconsider different methods. Still no leaks on that job!
Innovation isn’t so blue collar workers can sit home on the couch and install your sink, it’s so they can more efficiently complete the jobs to keep up with cost of inflation, cost of living, and overhead
And expansion fitting will never be as good as compression fitting. That's just nature. Atleast for plumbing rock climbing might bear different results.
Check your local code for the water hammer tube. It’s sometimes forbidden because they fill up with water over time and that water is stagnant and bacteria can grow.
Cheers !
Will it still fill up if it’s vertical like that?
@@benjaminpauza159 yes lol water has pressure it’s not all just rolling downhill
@@IRoYaILTY I know that but isn’t it air locked?
haven't seen hammer tube sense copper
@@benjaminpauza159 yes but over time, water will slowly work it’s way in. Really anytime there’s water hammer it has potential to push a little air out. Also they’re not really needed here. Most people don’t close they valve fast enough to create much hammer and pex is flexible enough to handle any small amounts that due happen. I bet he learned from an older plumber because this was a pretty standard practice with copper for many years.
Water hammer tubes like that are outdated. They fill with water in a week or two and don't do anything but trap stagnant water.
They're also against code in a lot of places.
Best way to prevent water hammer is proper valve/spigot/faucets that don't allow the user to slam them shut
@@TheSamba37 for those very reasons
@Riley Mannion I've never heard of water "hammer" because of shutting off the water too fast.
@wesman7837 you've never turned off a long copper pipe then, if you slam the valve closed the pipe jumps all the way back to where it comes into the building, too many of those and you've got a big leak
1/2" Aquapex (Uponor Pex-A) should be 5 expansions, and the expander head should be going in straight and evenly into the tube / expansion ring; upon which, the tube will reach the shoulder of the 1/2" expansion head.
The majority of Pex-A leaks are due to people using Pex-B fittings, or no-name knock-off china Pex-A fittings.
Improper tool usage, or using a tool without a rotating expansion head, would be the cause for the rest of the leaks.
Also, the Blue and Red Aquapex has manufacturing issues and should be avoided.
The clear/white Aquapex has had no issues.
all truth. sometimes you gotta do an extra expansion or two depending on the temperature
2 years ago I had my home repiped with red and clear. Should I redo the red with the clear?
@@naro1213 there was a problem with the red and blue tint in UPONOR pex years ago where it degraded the poly. There was a huge law suit against them. They changed the formula. I’m not sure how long ago this was but it was years ago. I’m sure you’re fine.
Not true at all, I literally just had an uponor training from them their self yesterday as long as you get the pipe all the way down it’s fine
I guess that rules out using barbs for Pex A
"Hey boy, you better watch that water hammer"
I could write you a book, and I'm not saying anything about Pex is bad or good, but if you see everything from a Newtonian Physics, and as well as a mechanical stand point, there's a lot of fantastically interesting info out there. Best wishes and best of luck. Your vibe is your "Stsnd Up". I'm rarely wrong!!!
Air hammers should be made with a sliding divider to hold air, keep water from getting stagnant.
compared to the other available types of PEX, Uponor is the best. Here is why: the Inner Diameter of the pipe with fittings is 1/2", not 3/8". The other types chokes the water down at each fitting.
Zurn is the best. Upnor has a class action lawsuit going on w chemicals leeching from it. Forget that
PEX is for rentals. I cringe everything I see it in high dollar homes. Copper Pro Press is the sh*t!
@@richaftanas9609 and pure flow
"Choked down " actually creates pressure not lessens it. Fluid principles, providing there is volume headed towards the "choked down area"
Sanipex is the Rolls Royce of pex systems
gotta love Uponor.. been using it for over a decade and it never dissapoints.
Right, trust Uponor more them this toy
Good luck … the are just starting to fail everywhere
@nolantanaka565 ive heard about the fully colored red and blue uponor piping failing, but they recalled all of it and started using the white piping with red and blue lettering.
@@Pitbulls_and_Plumbing thx for that info, now i see why the store was selling it for cheaper lol
I just installed a new shower, all soldered copper. No special tools required, and proven method.
No special tools required? Torch, flux and brush, copper cutter, sand paper, fitting brushes, maybe something to prevent or put out a fire, solder. Installing Pex requires expansion tool and cutter. Nothing else. And it is a proven technology in other countries where it has been in use for decades. US is slow to adopt new plumbing technology
A lot of these guys are endorsing or
indirectly selling what they use.😮😮
Finally... the pipe stretcher!
😂
Very good one 😂
OMG that is X rated! This shouldn’t be available for just anyone to watch!
Gonna have people thinking they can do their own plumbing giving themselves legionnaires
Seems like a slower process than crimping rings, to be honest. Definitely prefer my Milwaukee propress/ with copper & pex heads
Yeah no one steals pex, and copper rust. So maybe pex ain't that bad...
It's about sixes on time... I've done both. As far as reliability and longevity I think they're both the same
@@D1rtyharold good to know
@@webthewebcopper rusts ?
@@webtheweb Copper does not rust.
Here another tip if u do not have a tool like that dip the nylon pipe in very hot water it will soften up
Here's a better tip if you don't have the tool.. they have a manual one I think or use Pex-B
@@digi3218 or just crimp that pipe. Pex A isn’t only expansion. Pex B fittings will work fine with pex a. Just don’t try to expand pex b. Actually watts had a pex b expansion. I don’t know how it worked or if it even did but they had it. I’m guessing it didn’t work well because I was told about it once and then it disappeared.
Gerald Hague good idea for dipping Pex in hot water to soften it up 🙂
Would you be interested in 7 clicks for 1/2”?
If you're not using this type of pex you're not profiting the most you can for your business. Most reliable and efficient pex you can use. Not to mention if strategically placed you can avoid and fittings cause it bends without creasing. Just some plastic 90° bends and never worry about fittings in-between walls or ceilings
finally a video of someone using good pex. too many people crimping
We def crimping over here
I have pex- a running to a spigot in the wall. Its leaking, and I need to fix( obviously). I haven't done plumbing since it was copper being used. How do I fix this without buying all the expensive tools?
you can rent a crimper at home depot and just crimp it
@@RikoRey92 Crimping is for Pex B.
OP stated they have Pex A.
There is a manual handheld expander only like $200
Rent a expansion tool, or use a crimp ring on the pex-a, easiest method would be to look up "sharkbite" fittings.
It’s called legionnaires disease, if you’re wondering. I
Friend is finishing up recalled PB water replacement. His system had all those plastic tees were breaking upstairs and flooding his flat. Whats your experience.
I prefer brass fittings here.
Polybutylene (PB) is not what this is. This is pex (crosslinked polyethylene)
They might have to be 12” on the arresters. If it starts to hammer drain the whole system and fill it up to recharge it, it should be done annually.
Also pex pipe will never melt if in a fire as long as water is in it!
Just get the purpose built water hammer arresters they won’t stop working and they won’t create stagnant water 👍
so nice and easy 👍👌🙏
I have used Uponor for several years and its the standard where i live. But i switched over to Sanipex and its the Rolls Royce of pex systems. You get the security of Uponor and the conveniance of a compression fitting. Super easy to install and service. Pluss you dont need batteries and no noise🦾
The short dead leg tubes are for water hammer? They should be 2 ft long to get more cushion.
Finally a pex-a video I love this stuff but stretching it way to many times after it's already to size can cause it to leak.
Love pex for reroutes or running a lot of pipe overhead or something but a wide open wall for a shower valve should be done in copper. This is Lazy plumbing
Why wouldn't you put the plug in first and then pit it on the t fitting? I'd think it would be easier
because of the camera setup. it's easier to film this way
Copper is the best plain and simple. Naturally occurring antifungal properties, and rodent proof mostly. Was working on a rental property and the tenant had a rodent issue...one of the mice chewed right in to a pex line, ended up with a 12ft stream of water shooting out of the line.
lmao you can only imagine a rats surprise and rushed evacuation 😂
Motor home plumbing in houses
Sounds like they’ve got a rodent issue not a plumbing issue.
@@BIKEBLADESKATEif it’s leaking as a result, there’s a plumbing issue, period.
If your water distribution system is designed for a maximum flow rate of 8ft/sec you don't need water hammer arrestors. Also it's in the name P E X = Poly Ethylene Cross linked, it expands which is what you're doing to it to make a connection but will shrink back to it's original diameter. Take a minute, read the manufacturer specifications and don't make a fool out of yourself.
Pex type A is upinor. Under many many lawsuits. Hardly the best
Funny seeing a guy promote Pex-A and forget the hammer arrestors 😂 handymen at their best keep it up
They leak all the time. Pex-A and shark bit are our biggest money maker. Because they fail all the time. I love plumbers like him they keep me busy. Keep doing what your doing.
That is not a shark bite
What about Pex B? You see a lot of issues with PEX B?
If you do it right pex a is the better the the crimp style. I've installed plenty of it with no issues and still doing great with 0 issues. Shark bite on the other hand makes me nervous, more of a temporary fix in my opinion. The only problem I can forsee with any pex is if you live in an area where it freezes and you don't have it insulated well, the bands could possibly swell when it expands and come loose from the fittings as it thaws but again if you do it right no worries
I install pex all day long and haven’t had a recall in 3 years. It’s flexible so you use less fittings which means there’s less chances of leaks. Also I don’t do it as casually as this video shows. I make sure to hold that connection tightly until I’m certain it has sealed. Shark bites I kind of agree with you there because I’ll never use them on a new install but sometimes they really come in handy for repairs.
Not sure what you’re talking about. I’ve used pex for two decades and haven’t had any call backs from pipe or fitting failure, other than maybe an error in installation.
That's not plumbing if it was plumbing there would be a torch and solder involved
Tf are u on.
@@youtub3726 go back to your video games and move on
times are changing old man
Check water pressure? Xould you use a 90?
Disagree, Pex B is best, using pex A fittings and compression collars with expansion tools
Naw, I love the evo pex, it connects like a shark bite, the only tool that requires is a pair of cutters. 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Electric or battery powered
Battery
I heard there’s a problem with these kinds of fasteners on uponor plumbing that they crack and leak. Has this been resolved as I like this better than the clamping o rings?
Is there any proof this is any better than the metal ring that gets crushed?
If that happens to freeze, the crushed ring will expand and give a loose fitting. Pex A is constantly trying to shrink to it's proper size, so if it freezes and expands, it will also shrink back and not leak.
if a water hammer tube it useless especially that small. The only thing that is good for is possible stagnant water and bacteria growth.
I really enjoy using pex a . Every time I use it I realize that pex b tools really suck in tight spaces
Unless its pex b zurn
Do you still have to use the copper crush ring with this style or how does this work?
I hope we don't have all the failures we had with PB
Uponor Pipes have issues with degrading inside.
Hey boy, back in my day we installed wooden waterlines..😂 Matter of fact, I still have some in my showcase.
Red/blue PEX not in the budget?
Extra material. Why carry two spoils of pipe around. Copper isn’t color coded. CPVC is not color coded. Galvanized Is not color coded.
@@MrImmortalsounds There's real value in being able to quickly identify hot/cold water lines and just because we haven't been able to with in the past doesn't negate that. Building methods have improved over time.
@@mr.g937 what value? If you can trace down the source of a water line you shouldn’t be plumbing. Maybe you want the pipe to match your purse
@@tacklebox6239 It's the same story in electrical, you see people who just buy black NM and then tape it white or tape it red, instead of just buying the right color. It's about installing things in a neat and workmanlike manner. You can install things like a bargain handyman or you can install things like a professional.
You don’t need to color code in some states or area’s!
Is this better than crimping?
Yes holds tighter and doesn't corrode. They do have stainless bands but this is better in my opinion. I won't use anything else and it's really fast. Just don't get crazy with the stretching.
@@mikenunya5606 yep, and the connections will get better as time goes on because that pipe is forever trying to return to its original state. It’s also great for tight places. It’s not ideal but you can kink it to get in a tight spot then just heat it and the kink will go away.
As for the over stretching, I don’t think it hurts other than slowing you down. I had this apprentice who was lazy as hell. After a year he was coming around and turning into a good hand but then left. Anyway, he had to leave early one day. He was on a ladder putting together 1 1/2 pex. I saw that it was the time he had to leave so I reminded him. He got off the ladder and left and I went back to doing what I was doing. He didn’t even finish the connection he was working on. He left the tool expanded and stuck in the pipe. It’s like as soon as I told him, he immediately stopped and left. Anyway over an hour later I walked in there and noticed the tool and pipe hanging. Out of curiosity I thought I’d see if it would go shrink down. It took something like 10 minutes before the fitting would stay in. It was in an easy are to fix it so I marked it so I’d know where to check if the air test failed. It held and you’d have never known that it was done any different than the other fittings
what everyone else said and the fittings for this pex have less restriction in the water flow. expansion pex is better in every way
Planning on putting in a 2nd mixing valve? Wtf is going on here 😂
What Pex brand are you using ?
That’s uponor
The best plumbing for water pipe is copper hands down.
Yeah it looks alot cleaner and more professional
I'll stick to copper and solder---thanks.
I'll bet you can get one of those tools dirt cheap at any Street Corner in San Francisco
Why not use compression rings?
And this is how you make a water powered rocket inside your wall.
8 expansions on the that cap , sheesh I do 6 and I feel that’s way to much
I don’t see how the joint is more seal than a stainless crimp band… good stuff though. I’ve used it.
Definitely expanded to wide
And it gots the air chambers boy!
It sucks to install when it’s cold out
PVC sucks do copper last longer
The end! 😲
Been there done that
Oh I'm cool. I use hammer arresters while nobody else does!
Why they make actual arrestors now.
Why not elbows?
How do you remove a fitting if you need to ?
You just have to heat it up.
This makes my heart sink. Maybe I'm some sort of plumbing dinosaur, but that all looks so wrong. Where's the copper pipe, solder, flux and torch?
Hanmer arrestor if needed usually on a pex system you shouldn't need much if any
This company has a lawsuit against them.... The plastic developed stress fracture on expansion
Really?
I use pex b
if you want to reduce water hammer, throw a dual check valve in by the service and install an expansion tank. your method is ancient and does not work. pointless to have even wasted the extra pipe and fittings.
Tell me you not a plumber without telling me you not a plumber.
each time it expands you’re supposed to rotate the gun
Gun rotates it’s self
Takes all the skill out of the trade, not a plumber but if a homeowner can do it then yeah
Did anyone else out of habit start counting as soon as they heard the first expansion
No
Yes lolol
Bet it leaks quicker than a thread pipe
smart enough to use pex-A. not smart enough to realize the hammer tubes will soon be useless
That tool is way to expensive for this DIYer
The manual tool is less than 100 dollars and comes with a case and 1/2 and 3/4 inch tips
I’ve used it - on a repipe on a rental; wished I had the tool instead of the manual would have saved me a lot on time
For diy, you can either rent one at a plumbing supply house or get the cinch rings and tool. They sell it at Home Depot and Lowe’s. With it the tool grabs one part of the ring and crimps it so one tool does all sizes. I don’t know about the quality of connection but it’s still in use so it can’t be terrible but I think it’s the best option for diy other than rental
Pro tip: Do not put tool in pee hole.
don't look now but you got three leaks
Those water hammer tubes are the stupidest thing you could have done as an outdated probably no license wannabe plumber, those are outdated and really don’t need those at all anyway some places forbid them, you shouldn’t even be allowed to touch plumbing.
Looks like a good tool!
Oh that's a pipe stretcher!
It's cakes upanor.
PEX-A fittings sure take a long time to install.
Copper Pro Press is my favorite.
You ever solder? That's pretty time consuming
👍🏾
...warum bauen die links und rechts Totleitungen ein?
I’m finding it hard to trust this, call me old school I guess
In sf you have to have air chambers or you won't pass inspection. Rats chew pex to get water.
Not a plumber here. But is that even sealed? I feel like the water pressure is going to blow the pex off .
Sealed tighter than a frogs ass when it shrinks back! I saw this being used about 20 yrs ago and couldn’t believe it! After sweating copper while a plumber, it got me to reconsider different methods. Still no leaks on that job!
I'm with you Ray.
It is sealed. The PEX shrinks down, that's why there's the white ring on it. That clamps down on the fitting. Plumber here btw
Nope…..
Copper is the best no cap
yeah if you wanna finish by the end of the week 😂😂😂
Ok boomer
Would have put that cap in first. ..😂😂
All these old heads mad
how would disassembly occur? you would be cutting a lot of pipe if you have to change anything
Could have done 10 pex rings in that time without some huge clunky tool doesn't fit in tight spaces.
Given the fact that technology has made life easier for plumbers, maybe they should give us a break on their services?
Nah. Given that they have to pay for the tools and there's less blue collar workers, pay up or use buckets.
Innovation isn’t so blue collar workers can sit home on the couch and install your sink, it’s so they can more efficiently complete the jobs to keep up with cost of inflation, cost of living, and overhead
Wait wait wait,m that should be able to withstand pressure? How. Especially the cap at the end
Can withstand hundreds of psi
@@Jman.798 looked it up by now and I find them trough amazing👍🏽😅
💓
My torch wants to say hello
And expansion fitting will never be as good as compression fitting. That's just nature. Atleast for plumbing rock climbing might bear different results.
Illinois at its best.
Lol. This is a sign of someone stuck on their ways. Don't do this unless you like legionnaire disease