Chapters: 0:00 - Beginning of the Speed up SSD Windows 10 Video 0:07 - Baseline the speed of your drive first to Speed up SSD Windows 10 0:55 - shows the speed of your drive 0:59 - Manual optimizations 1:46 - Additional optimizations (May take a while to Speed up SSD Windows 10) 2:09 - Checking Speed up SSD Windows 10 via the task manager 2:36 - on my newer SSD which is a NVMe SSD 3:40 - Credits
@@ShinyTechThings Great video and voice. I have Samsung EVO 970 Plus 500GB SSD that I installed on an Inspiron 5570 with 32B RAM (max Read 1800 MB/s due to Dell BIOS bottlenecking restriction). After less than a year, writing (specifically saving a picture from the net or moving a file from one folder to another or even renaming a file was painfully slowwwww, up to 30 seconds, at times). I thought I should never defrag an SSD. It shortens the life, as you cautioned us, but also I thought it was totally unnecessary, even though Samsung Magician has an Optimize function that I have never used. Still, I followed your instructions. I felt once a year should be harmless with low impact on TBW. With /O, and a ew seconds later, free space went from 238.52 GB to 242.66 and 64-bit write speed went up from 1306 MB/s to 1380 MB/s. With /X, fragmented space was a whopping 18%. An hour has passed (not 9:42 minutes for 3% fragmentation as it shows in your video). The odd thing is that write speeds in the Task Manager on your video show (partial view) write speeds in the range of 50 MB/s (or 500?), while I was getting write speeds around 1 MB/s and below (bizarre). I will update when the defrag is completed.
@@myemperor the read and write speeds will be small to large speeds as it's testing different methods and speeds. So a large file written will write faster than a bunch of small files equalling the same size as the large file. If the total performance doesn't at least return to the original speeds or close to it then I'd look into what other items like antivirus that may b interfering with the drive. Do you have the latest firmware installed for the drive and Samsung's driver for NVMe? Also if the machine is limited to PCIe 2x instead of 4x the drive will always perform slower than 2000MB/sec.
@@ShinyTechThings Yes... Inspiron 5570 is limited to PSIe 2x... and DELL are too lazy to update the BIOS and solve this problem. Update: It took around 3 hours to complete... The post defrag left the SSD 18% fragmented... So, basically, the defrag was not needed... I ran winsat disk, and the read speed went down to 1276 MB/s. The Read speed is 1748 MB/s is apparently unaffected by the defrag...
@KillerRiceCracker glad I could help. This also means that the controller on the drive most likely isn't running garbage collection and or or TRIM correctly or as often as it should. If it's a OEM drive I expect it but if you paid for a drive and upgraded yourself to it then check to see if there's a firmware update. What drive do you have and how long has it been since you installed the OS?
@@KillerRiceCracker Pull up the task manager using Ctrl+Shift+Esc then click on more details on the bottom left if you've never clicked on before. Then click on the performance tab and select the disk. It should show you on the right side a model number of the drive.
@carlosvfxart I suspect it's from TRIM refreshing the cells after shuffling around the data. The controller supposed to do all this transparently but for whatever reason lots of drives even high end ones seem to behave less than perfect.
DO NOT DEFRAG YOUR SSD PEOPLE! Such aweful advice. Please just type "should you defrag an SSD" or something into RUclips and make your own mind up on if you should do this or not.
@@KaganRustem bruh unless you have an old pc which was never updated since launched then you are right because only an old Windows will defrag an SSD or NVME else rest will only allow to optimise/trim the drive and that's what we can see in the video. "GET SOME KNOWLEDGE BEFORE SPITTING IT OUT"
@BILAL_HACKER I defrag *and* trim on windows 11. /O is optimize so that means TRIM on a SSD and /X is /FreeSpaceConsolidate so yes, you can defrag a SSD. This will shuffle the files around on the SSD's cells using the defrag utility. Should I do a video going over all of the options for the defrag utility?
And trim won't affect m.2/SSD because it will just check those blocks and tell SSD to ignore invalid stuff which can "improve performance" at some point
@BILAL_HACKER TRIM just tells the drive to do what it supposed to do already but the /X does shift things around on the drive it does cause wear but most consumer SSD's still have more TBW (terabytes written) than what most people would ever write themselves. I do always recommend having a good backup of anything important because Hardware can fail anyways without notice.
Thanks it helped a bit when I tried it on one system and a lot on another but on my newest it was already pretty fast so it didn't make any difference but my older laptop and desktop it did. Thanks for making this mister shiny Guy!
Glad it helped. Mileage will vary from system to system and drive to drive. Overall it's helped me on countless systems I've worked on over the years. 👍
@Ryland Gallanosa if it's a regular spinning hard drive, yes it can take many hours to run especially if it's never been defragged and it also depends on the rotational speed of the disk. E.G. a 7200 RPM HDD it will take less time than a 5400 RPM HDD would.
That model number looks like it is a 1 terabyte so it is more designed for lots of storage at a inexpensive price rather than speed like a SSD but after defragmenting you can run a benchmark to see how fast it performs. It may take several times of defragmenting to get it to go as fast as possible depending on how full the hard drive is and how fragmented it was.
@GeoDen it may be that your drive for whatever reason isn't running TRIM as often as it supposed to. Did you upgrade to a SSD and image over or did it always have a SSD? What drive do you have?
@axebeetle I'm glad it helped you out. I don't know why Microsoft doesn't force something like this in the background to keep things running smoothly. I do on my own machines at least several times a year and it's usually a noticeable difference afterwards. One of the things to keep in mind is you don't want to have your SSD completely filled up as that will slow it way down because it can't shuffle the cells around as efficiently to do wear leveling.
@@ShinyTechThings Yeah, wish Mircosoft would force this, it would help tons of people. But hey for the time being, it's a good thing your here with the easy great video, I bet it will helps tons!
Oh yes that's right, in 2 years, 2 months and 10 days later, I finally fixed my issue, fixed the lag, stutter issues on my Samsung portable solid state drive t7 shield external drive to speed up while gaming since I got my Samsung portable ssd t7 shield on Christmas in 1 month and 9 days now, since the night before.
@Insanity Prevails the only thing I can think of on why it could perform slower is that something else was consuming disk I/O at that time. If you run the benchmark again after the system is idle for a while how does it perform? Is TRIM enabled? What motherboard do you have or what system is it on? You could also temporarily uninstall any antivirus software as those write speeds seem like you don't have AHCI enabled on the motherboard or something like antivirus is crippling it with a corrupted update or take too much resources for it to perform.
@WJK I already made a video on that, check it out and let me know if it helps you out or if you have any questions. ruclips.net/video/7rSHM5--HBs/видео.html
@halowalker does it run that slow copying a single large file? Do you know if TRIM is enabled? What computer is this in? In the bios, do you know if it is set to AHCI or IDE? Don't make a change in the bios without having a backup of your machine because it could cause windows to not boot. But if we need to go down that path I can point you in the direction of how to hopefully avoid all those headaches.
Correct, but unless you are running a really old or really cheap SSD then there is very limited risk involved. As always I highly recommend having a backup of all of your important data and if you don't have a backup already I cannot stress how important it is to do so. Even if it's just putting critical documents somewhere on the cloud under a free storage tier and if you don't trust the cloud then encrypt your files before putting them into the cloud.
@@ShinyTechThings this is objectively bad advice, and goes directly against what SSD manufacturers advice. Unless we are talking about a mechanical drive, there is 0 advantage to defragmenting a drive, literally only drawbacks. Please stop perpetuating this misnomer.
@@KaganRustem It's not misinformation and if you understand how SSD's work and you don't hammer the snot out of your consumer SSD with a heavily used database by taxing it's TBW then a defrag here and there is nothing. Good quality SSD's have additional storage that you can't access that is swapped out under the hood as part of the wear leveling of a disk. If you want an extended life to your SSD, just overprovision it and it does the same concept with the unpartitioned space with the active partition. So to determine what will actually occur I'll buy a consumer SSD that I'll load up and defrag for a month 24/7 and see what the health stats tell us. I've mined chia and have some interesting stats on that but that will be in a future video as well. You might be surprised, but either way I think it would make a good video on if we can kill a drive in 30 days of constant defragmentation. Should I go NVMe or SATA based SSD for this test?
Yes and no. It does decrease teh lifespan but unless you have a really old SSD they are able to handle more write cycles than most consumers will ever abuse the drive with.
@@ShinyTechThings how can i revert?, i defraged and saw this right after, any way of reverting?, not looking foward to shortening the life span of my ssd...
@Kelo SSD's are designed to behave this way. Most manufacturers have free software utilities to be able to tell you the status of the life span of your SSD. Under normal use (not crypto mining Chia) most SSD's will outlive the lifespan of most home and business users. Doing a defrag although does decrease the life span slightly in most cases restoring speed is more of the desired affect. One can also over provision their SSD to help increase the life span. This is where say for example you have a 500GB SSD but only create a partition of 480GB. By leaving the remaining 20GB the controller performs what's called wear leveling where it basically changes what cells it is using inside of the drive over time to provide the best performance as well as lifespan to the drive. Most manufacturers include a little bit of extra space inside of the drive that you can't see just for this case. If you are concerned about the lifespan of your drive then again I recommend using the manufacturer tools to look at the estimated lifespan of the drive and also be sure to have a good backup system in place in the event of a failure.
@Antoine Finch it depends on what's causing the slowdown. Be sure to clean up temporary files and free up as much space as you can so the drive can run more efficiently. Let me know the final results when you get a chance. 👍
@Shiny Tech Things #question i am using a external ssd (crucial ssd+ usb 3 enclosure) Should i keep the ssd in mbr or gpt ? Which is faster ? (i also use the ssd with phone )
@stormbreaker82 GPT keeps backup copies of the partition table so it can be checked for corruption but with your phone you would have to just test and see if it works and how it performs but please let me know your results. As for the speed I've read it helps but I've never benchmarked it and haven't noticed any raw speed differences. GPT allows you to use larger than 2TB disks.
I always reply, the exception to that is if the comment gets buried in a thread and I don't see it. But if you post a new comment I always respond if it's a question.
@@ShinyTechThings let me be honest :) naah (cause ur video was the first one in the list hehe (if u are asking about the like part i said that u video had 998 likes and i liked and made it 999 :)
@HARSHITCHANDRA2008 oh WOW I didn't even check that and I see now your original comment literally says that. Thanks for clarifying and for your support with the likes! It truly does help support the channel at no cost other than a click or a tap. If you have any technical questions feel free to ask in a comment as I respond to all questions.
@HARSHITCHANDRA2008 thank you! What types of content do you enjoy watching that my channel might have already made or may make in the future? I had a post asking people as a community post if you want to take a look at that. I think it was a few weeks ago? And go ahead and vote and drop a comment of anything specific if you like. Thanks in advance!
@RickTech-wx6oj I disagree with that to a degree. Yes it decreases it's lifespan though the use of writes, however if you have a good SSD most have TBW (terabytes written) lifespans that far exceed the use of most people out there. What SSD do you currently have and what speeds are you getting?
Is there a reason why my SSD is detected as a HDD on task manager, the shape and sticker info on the drive literally says it's an SSD edit: I think it's a WD digital blue 1TB SSD, and how long should the optimization defrag take, and should i even do it if i have this problem?
I have seen this a few times in task manager and the defrag seems fine but before doing it's always best practice to back up anything that is important. I have not gone down the rabbit hole yet on how to change it from HDD to SSD if that's even possible, but from my understanding it is just a bug in the OS. When I spoke with an OEM about it they claimed it was only cosmetic and if it really bothered me to just rebuild the system. I'm not sure how accurate they're response was, but it's been running fine for years for them so it seems to be fine.
@@ShinyTechThings I just discovered I was sold a SSHD while it was listed as a SSD, figured out by searching my storage device's serial number as I found about the glitch in the OS your talking about, and it let to a WD page of a SSHD for sale from the official site, nevertheless the video did help boost my speeds as originally I wanted to speed up my "SSD" to stop bottlenecking my download speeds on steam, and it worked out great so thank you, informative regardless
@internetisdrunk9084 I'm glad it helped. It's been years since I came across a SSD in the wild. I bought one for my Lenovo T420 in around 2009 or so as a full SSD was way too expensive back then. They were a nice balance of speed, size and price.
Not working on my new Crucial X8 1TB. Brand telling sequential 1050MB/s and i'm getting only 800read and 600 - 700 write after attempting many fixations.
@Patrick Bhardwaj I came across an article on people complaining about speeds on their PS5's that if you wanted to at your own risk try flashing the firmware but it may or may not help or possibly damage the drive if it's not the correct firmware. How are you testing the drive to determine its read and write speeds? www.reddit.com/r/PS5/comments/k3vcpg/is_anyone_here_using_a_crucial_x8_external_ssd/?
@Patrick Bhardwaj looks like I there's no firmware updates for the drive but I have an idea what's going on now. I suspect you've formatted the drive as exFAT to be used on both Mac and Windows in which case your performance can be significantly slower than expected. Ideally you'd want to either use 2 drives natively or create 2 partitions one being NTFS and the other APFS but you'll need to move your data off of the drive first because doing this will erase the drive. Think of exFAT as a compatibility mode that can be used by Mac and Windows but at the cost of space and speed as it's not as efficient as using APFS or NTFS. Here's a good article on this: www.makeuseof.com/tag/mac-file-system-external-drive/
That's got plenty of power so memory compression shouldn't be affecting that. Do you have any third-party antivirus running? What's the make and model of the drive?
@PCGaming that's great that it helped you out, in most cases it's beneficial to increase your speed. Depending on the make and model of your drive and the controller that it uses sometimes freeing up space and removing temporary files beforehand can increase the performance even more but based on the speed you posted I'm guessing it is a SATA SSD? What make, mode,l and size Drive do you have?
@PCGaming what is the drive make and model number? If it's NVMe you should get faster than those speeds. Otherwise it could be a M.2 2280 SATA drive which looks very similar to NVMe.
The command prompt tells me normal speeds for my ssd (Kingston SNVS500G) but it can go down to the kb/s when doing most operations it is properly cooled and the current firmware in the ssd manager tells me i have the latest but its from 2022 and the site tells me 2023 was the last update? I think its the issue
@Taha BMS if your board supports NVMe I'd recommend that over a M.2 SATA. The ends of the drives are similar so be sure to check and see what it supports or it might not work on your system. Also depending on who makes your motherboard it might not have all the PCIe lanes so you might not be able to get full speed. Who makes your computer and can you see the model number of the motherboard?
You can hold CTRL+ press the letter "C" to cancel it out. I suspect it has lots of fragmentation that is taking a very long time. What brand of drive do you have? What size and how much free space does it have?
I will try this tomorrow. I have 970 Evo Plus 1tb and my sequential write is 99% of the time I run a test between 1000 and 1700 MB/s, instead of 3200 MB/s. I've tried literally every single solution on the Internet and nothing fixed it. Could it simply be defective? - temperatures are normal - my Asus z270g has two m.2 PCI 3x4 sockets. So full speed on any of them - updated bios, windows, Samsung magician, ssd firmware - installed Samsung nvme driver - write cache is enabled
@@ShinyTechThings When I run 1GB tests on crystal mark i get half write speeds, like I said. When I run 64MB tests on crystal mark (like CMD does) I always get full speed. Why is that? L.E. even CMD shows 1000-1700 MB/s now instead of the initial 3300 MB/s
Have you checked in the bios that the speed of the pcie is 4X instead of 2X? There might be a setting. Or some motherboards have multiple M.2 slots and the first one is full speed and the second one is 2X speed. Please let me know what you find out.
@comedyman112 It supposed to behave like that because of how a drives garbage collection runs and how the cache was designed. For example if you copy a 30GB file between 2 of those drives you'll see it copying the large file at full speeds until the cache of the drive is exceeded on the drive that is being written to then it will slow down to a crawl. Synthetic benchmarking programs will show you how it performs under the different types of scenarios and workloads. If you copy a whole bunch of tiny files, it doesn't matter how fast your NVMe drive is. There is no way it can write as fast as you think it would as a advertised speed because it has to create the file, open the file, write into the file, close the file, and then disconnect from the file and then repeat all over again. But one thing that you can check to make sure your drive is running as expected is to look at other benchmark and reviews of your particular make and model and compare the screenshots of their results to what you are seeing on yours. The Samsung Pro SSD's will perform a little bit better than the Evo versions, but unless if you are running something that would have a workload that would benefit from it then in most cases it's not worth the additional money. Please let me know how your benchmarks compared to screenshots of some of the other reviews out there online.
Check your BIOS first. I'd removed all my overclock settings and set the motherboard to default after errors running unity. This enabled all SATA lanes and messed up my PCIE bus. Simply disabling channels not in use and setting to M.2 from auto doubled my speeds.
@polla2256 If there were some bad settings in the bios with overclocking then all sorts of weird things can happen, including burning out on board ethernet adapters. I've seen that happen more than once. I typically recommend just letting the bios run on auto for any of the performance and just enable XMP if you have supported memory and call it a day. Sure! You might be able to squeeze a couple more percent out of a system for performance with overclocking, but the risks aren't really worth it IMO.
Hey i did the free space consilidation and the usage of my SSD in the Task manager went down again to like 1%. But in the cmd i can't type anything and it doesn't show anything new, does this mean it is still running or is it finished?
@we do some trooling Thanks! Glad it helped you out. Let me know if you have any technical questions in general as I may make it in a upcoming video for you if I haven't made it already. Also be sure to check out my community page as well.
I have done this and read and write speeds are as advertised on my ssd in the command center but in the task manager i still have very low read and write speeds. How do I fix that problem?
There is not a problem, it is the type of data that you are copying. Meaning, if you are copying lots of small files, it has to open the file handler right inside of it and then close the file and disconnect and then dispose of that connection and then repeat. That is why if you copy a single large file than the performance is faster than lots of tiny files.
@dragonkiin That depends on the root cause of the symptom. I typically run a few times a year when I notice that my drive is running sluggish but it also depends on what drive you have and how full it is. What drive do you have and how full is it?
@@ShinyTechThings i just found out that my drive emtec x150 240 gbs has acutally bad cache that's why it's so slow it shifts from 500mb/s write to stabilize around 5-30 mb/s which is fine since it's used mostly for windows and some games.
Hi! When I check the read and write of my external SSD, it shows 40 mb/s which is ridiculously slow. Then I command "defrag /O f:" to optimize my external SSD (disk F), nothing happens. Any solution?
@pro gamer the DPC watchdog is just telling you that a program is unresponsive. If you pull from your event viewer it will hopefully give you more information as to what is having the issue.
i just brought a new ssd and in crystaldisk the speed are: Read 500 mb Write :450mb However when i am copying files I am only getting speed of 100mb or even less.Please help Its a new ssd which i brought 2-3 days ago..
@One human That may be the correct speeds, it depends on what you are copying. So a 5GB ISO file for example from one SSD to another should write as fast as it can be pulled from the read. With smaller files it will slow way down. Say gigs of documents or files from a program or game folder drive to drive will be slow as you have: Create file Write data Close file All happening under the hood. That takes time which causes the slowness. Also copying from and to the same drive will never hit the maximum speeds. If copying from a regular hard drive to the SSD, your bottleneck is the HDD. How are you testing the copy speeds exactly?
@@ShinyTechThings i am copying from my old hdd to ssd. Even i tried installing games from the ssd drive as well and it fluctuates a lot ..like the speed is not constant and one more thing that whenever i am copying files from hdd to ssd.My ssd only utilizes 20-30% then spikes to 99 then again back to 20-30%. Btw i am using asrock h91 s1 plus mobo and haswell i5 4440
@One human your bottleneck is the HDD copying when copying from your old drive. And when installing stuff typically an installer will be extracting lots of smaller files and you cannot write lots of small files at high speeds because of the overhead. it has to create the file, open the file, write data inside of the file, close the file over and over again. When you run your benchmark look at the smallest numbers for like the 4K sequential write speeds. That is more realistic however it can be more and less than those numbers because those are synthetic benchmarks.
@@ShinyTechThings ya i also think so..these hdd are more than 10years old and works well.Its okay as i am satisfied with windows boot up and playing games ssd is working fine ..thanks bro for the reply.
it says that i am capable of speeds over 2000 mb yet i am getting active speeds under 1 mb consistently.... Very frustrating, considering i need higher speeds for ableton live. please help
My ssd get extremely slowed down once in week. write speed automatically goes drastically Down around 6-9mbps and this issue comes once in week but whenever i update my laptop it's automatically fix itself after a day but it's very annoying i don't know how does this works can you please tell me what's going on with my laptop?
@@ShinyTechThings Its acer nitro 5 2019 model when i purchased this laptop it was having hard drive but i recently upgraded to ssd around 6-8 months ago sorry about bad English
@@ShinyTechThings i brought crucial ssd BX500SSD1 And they installed new windows 10 on my laptop even though my laptop had its original windows 10 but when i installed ssd they installed new windows 10 on it. but recently i got frustrated of this issue and i reset my laptop and installed new windows 10 again but this issue not fixing. it's fix itself when i update my laptop but it takes two days and it will automatically fix it self i have only one income resource and it's this my laptop but i don't know what i should do now please help me if you have any knowledge of this issue Thank you!
@Rahul take a look at this article. forums.tomshardware.com/threads/ssd-crucical-bx500-super-slow.3728770/ I'd look at the S.M.A.R.T. stats of the drive and see how much data has been written. Also is your system set to AHCI? You can't just change it though. You can change and use safe mode and then change back to regular booting, otherwise it's a reinstall of windows. Did you try manually trimming with "defrag c: /O" ? Does that make a difference?
@@ShinyTechThings SSD samsung 1 tb nvme :D I dont know why it became slower.. when i Delete just 1 photos it took 1.5 seconds to delete.. then I research how to fast up this slow thing and found you ahahha thanks !!!!
@Dark Note Gaming it shouldn't unless you have some other issues that are unaddressed like your drive is already mostly full or a failing drive or a counterfeit drive. What drive do you have, what symptoms do you currently have and what have you done so far?
@@ShinyTechThings I have Consistent 256 GB SSD which I bought 3 weeks ago with a new pc and I was customizing windows 10 removing it's bloatwares and making my pc lighter. But after windows 10 22H2 update came i tried to install and and it stopped in the middle i did a lot of things i could to solve it but a time come when my pc was so slow it took around 9 sec to even open setting then after a soft reset it seemed to work better but not good then i downloaded the 22H2 thinking it will grain it's real speed again but still it hasn't improved and whenever i start my pc it is stuch for 3 sec after the windows home screen pops up. So ya that it not it's you turn to give me solutions.
@@ShinyTechThings its the drive with windows (c drive) 256gb ssd with 84gb space left. the performance of games installed in drive has decreased alot after following your steps. is there any thing i can do to undo all the steps?
@@subhans.s.k9770 we need to determine why it would decrease the performance because it never should unless if you have a really old machine that is not set up to use AHCI instead of IDE which would just not allow trim to run but it also could just be an issue with the drive, what is the manufacturer of the drive and model number? There might be a firmware update or something that addresses a slowdown issue. Also what are the specs of the computer including the make and model? If it's been manufactured within the last decade it should be using AHCI or something similar which allows TRIM to run
can you make tutorial how to fix ssd when downloading something or installing my ssd is ggetting 100% active time when it happens my computer getting slower
havent try but i'll try it later, my ssd boot so slow(2-3mins windows 10 pro reformated still the same) its like an hdd, i3 4170 8gb maybe you guys have advices i almost tried everything i guess beside that bios ishhh maybe on the mobo but cant find someone same problem as mine.
@naX Candela Start with this video: ruclips.net/video/7rSHM5--HBs/видео.html Also I'd double check your BIOS to see if it's set to AHCI or not. Don't make the change though without backing up everything first.
@Streamer LOOT would you mind explaining a little more detail as to your results after each command? Also there is a chance that your system might still be doing something in the background causing additional overhead. You can check this by opening up the task manager and looking at your disc access.
Are this is changed the data?,i bought a ssd 4 week ago,but from the first install why i just get 250nb/s speed on 3.2 sata?,or bc i using celeron n2840?
I would take a look at your task manager as you are running various benchmarks because it is a good possibility that the Celeron is the bottleneck of the system.
@Techly Zend You could just run TRIM manually which I explained which is safe as per the design of the drive which can help make up for a poorly designed controller on cheap drives not running as often as it should. The moving of files around is basically just stirring the pot to freshen up where stuff lives. In all the years I've been doing this I have had 0 SSD drive failures on the drives I run this on for years but want to note that it has been on Samsung, Intel, and Toshiba drives both consumer and enterprise drives so if you use off brand drives it could have a bigger affect on the performance and reliability of the drive. Although it does reduce the lifespan, if your workload on your drive was say 10+ years of expected life under that load, shaving off a few days would be outside of it's usable life anyways unless you plan on keeping the same hardware for that long then I would say just live with the performance loss if TRIM doesn't help. Formatting and reinstalling should also give similar results in performance gains but would put more wear on the SSD than defragging it. One thing you should NEVER do though is mine Chia on a SSD as it eats through it so fast. I've done some tests on that and will be releasing a video on it and some ways around it and extending the live of such a drive without burning through the TBW (Terabytes Written) nearly as fast but still having great performance while not wearing out the drive nearly as fast.
Glad it helped, and I've seen the same over the years. In the event that it doesn't make any difference then usually that issue comes from the drive being too full to shuffle things around and to properly run at full speed or something completely different altogether like SATA1, no AHCI support , or a virus or something. Thanks for the update! Let me know any other questions that you might have and I might just make a video on it! 👍
Hold the "CTRL" key and press the letter "C" which should cancel the operation. You can also just click the red X to close the command line and it will stop the process. What drive do you have and how much space is currently free?
@Fred Vandermeulen Take a look at this article below but it may be that your SSD isn't the size it claims to be. I'd definitely backup any important data just in case it completely fails or overwrites existing data from being counterfeit. www.datarecoveryspecialists.co.uk/blog/how-to-spot-a-fake-ssd#:~:text=A%20fake%20SSD%20will%20probably,to%20display%20a%20higher%20capacity.
Bro I am using 970 evo plus. in past I used gigabyte b450 motherboard my boot time is 10sec now I am using msi x570 gaming pro carbon wifi now booting time is 20sec what I need to do to decrease my boot time under 10sec .
@@ShinyTechThings the drive i used was a sansdisk extreme portable 500gb When i read the version of the drives firmware it said it released in 2006 which didnt make sense I also got speeds of 35/40 mb/s even though i tried another hdd on my laptop and got speeds of 80mb/s At the end i returned the ssd bcs i tried everything i think it was either a counterfeit or a malgunctioning one The laprop i used with is acer aspire a315…. Which got a 3.0 usb port thats why i got 80mb/s and other ports around 40mb/s
you are faking genius god lvl ahhahahahahahahh I have ssd but fak it delete photos 2 seconds delay omgggg!!! when i did this it delete instantly thank you so much!!! VERYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! wortjh it
Really nice video and very easy to do. sadly i couldnt fix my 5mb write speed problem on my fury 1 tb ssd.. ı tried everything in not just this video but everything in internet.. :(
Hello! I have a Crucial BX500 and from day to other it started to read at 500mb/s(normal) but write 10mb/s, I reinstaled system and same issue, after doing steps on the video it went to write 100mb/s, but it supposed to go to 550 mb/s, any help?
@Emiliano Rios So it looks like that drive unfortunately doesn't have dram and is qlc. Is your drive new and within the return period by chance? www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/xgvjge/crucial_bx500_ssd_slow_4k_readwrite_speeds/?
@Emiliano Rios you could try to RMA it but from what I'm reading, the poor performance is to be expected with that type of design, although not quite as bad as you are describing so an RMA might fix it.
@Wing Lau Yes, but first you run trim manually. Yes doing the actual defrag will decrease the life span slightly but even in the wild of thousands of machines I've worked on over the last decade I can count on my hands the SSD failures I've seen. I've seen more than triple the failures with mechanical drives over the same time span.
@ionkohristov5927 Most definitely as long as the drive is physically fine. I would start with that but it could also be the controller adapting USB over to SATA inside of the enclosure. Or it could be the drive itself but 99% of the time it is the cable. Please let me know your findings after you swap out the cable.
@@ShinyTechThings Thank you so much i will let you know when i buy a new cable i have only one cable from my phone and I’m using it the cable is not 3.0 USB so maybe this is the problem
@Dany Supa was that before or after? How much space is free and what's the size of the drive and the drive model which can be found in the device manager.
Since SATA2 theoritical max speed is 300MB/s then what you are seeing isn't bad. Just limited to SATA2 speeds without replacing it completely unfortunately since you said your motherboard is old and on a laptop you can't always easily Frankenstein it with a newer board.
@@ShinyTechThings Its a 128Gb ssd that came with my Dell laptop. Not sure about the brand. I had just done a fresh win 11 install. I copied a file and it seemed a bit slow. Both read and write speed went down by 10-15% after the optimisation. 😅
@metallboy25 I suspect something is going on in the background as it shouldn't be slowing it down. Leaving space unpartitioned should help extend the lifespan by overprovisioning it and since it's a fresh install what does the task manager look like for resources and overhead? It could be building cache files when you tested again or something else consuming resources.
What were your speeds before and after running the speed tests and then defragging and testing speeds again? Also how much space is free and what are the specs and model of the PC with this drive init?
@Suresh Steven not necessarily, please see my pinned comment response and let me know if you have any questions. I do plan on making a video to see how much a drive would have to be in defragmented to actually kill it.
@adam schneider it depends, if it's at the end of its lifespan then it could kill it but if not then it could extend the lifespan under certain circumstances. It comes down to TBW (terabytes written) and what's locking up the cells. If your drive is 90% full just normal use of temp files writing and being deleted could wear out the drive. Cleaning up space then moving stuff around using defrag could move stuff from the cells that were just read from (e.g. static files) is then may be moved to cells that are worn, then frees up underused cells. Should you defrag a SSD? Depends on lots of variables. I have a backup so I'll defrag away. I am planning on doing a follow-up video showing how much it takes to kill a drive so it might be a long while until it fails for that video.
Bro today I bought an SSD adata su650 it's mention write speed is 500mbs but I am getting only 150mbps ..is that happening cuz I am using a sata ii cable does sata ii cable decrease speed???
It's probably a BIOS setting or motherboard limitations. SATA2 speeds are 300MB/s but it sounds like you're running at SATA1 speeds. Check the BIOS and see what's supported. Also some ports may be slower on the motherboard than others. What motherboard do you have and what's the bios version?
@@ShinyTechThings my motherboard is pretty old The motherboard I am using is Gigabyte GA-H61M-S it's bios was last updated on 2013 after that no bios update was released ...
It looks to be SATA2, I would take a backup and then check of the BIOS is set to AHCI, if not change it but I don't remember if you have to reinstall or not as it's been too long ago. I want to say you could enable trim from DOS or PowerShell without reinstalling. Here's the specs I could find on that board. www.gigabyte.com/us/Motherboard/GA-H61M-S2PV-rev-10/sp#sp
@@ShinyTechThings I am running that ssd empty means I have installed nothing on it .I have hdd and connected the ssd and checking the speed I will let you know my speed change after installing windows (Does empty ssd and half full ssd differ in speed????)
@@ShinyTechThings when using this script the results will speed up or slow down a given SSD at the expense of the life span / endurance of the Drive AKA: TBW Total Bytes Written. Is there a formula that ?
@@thegreatfixer Not that I'm aware of as every manufacturer's definition of TBW although sounds straightforward but in reality most outperform their TBW specs so it would be difficult to accurately say it would reduce the life span by a certain fraction of a percent. I will say that unless you are Chia mining then the average life of a system being 3-5 years shouldn't have any issues. Also always be sure to have a backup of anything important.
Hi man i have xpg adata spectrix rgb on msi b450 gaming plus motherboard, it doesnt copy at all, it copyes with 50 60 mb per second, i know its pcie 3 but still why so slowly can you help me please?
@@ShinyTechThings i copyed arma 3 the game in another folder on xpg drive to see how it copyes but is verry slowly i do have windows on it i copy on the same drive to test the speed but ill install my os on ssd sata 3 kingstone to see how works withouth windows
@@crushcrush5164 it sounds like the cash of the drive is getting filled up and it just can't write any faster so it slows way down. This even happens with Samsung nvme drives as I've shown in one of my previous videos.i believe it was the 10 gigabit switch video. The solution is to step up to used enterprise storage name drives but still they have some limitations or a large pool of SAS drives like 12 drives in raid 10 with a decent controller. When I get home gen 4 I'll be testing those as well but suspect it will be fast for the first 18-40GB and then slow down to a crawl.
@dirtylove000 That drive is rated for 385 megabytes writes and 510 megabytes reads. What motherboard and processor do you have and who makes your system? Also, what antivirus and security software do you have on your machine?
@@ShinyTechThings before the speeds are read:3000 write:2100 now i get read: 1600 write:1500 the free space is 132gb in C my laptop name is Asus tuf A15 and SSD is by Samsung
@Uday Shelke if you open up the task manager by holding down CTRL + SHIFT + ESC and under the performance tab and then select the drive it will give you the model number of the SSD. Also what is the full size of that SSD? There is also the possibility that the controller on the SSD is still executing the trim or other functions under the hood so if you leave it idling for an hour or so without use and then test it again are the results the same?
wow it worked. I thought you were full of shit, but still decided to run the defrag since I had nothing to loose. My read speeds went from 3465.20 MB/s to 3505.86 MB/s and write from 3213.15 to 3345.01. Do you have any other suggestions that would make it go even faster. I bought a Firecuda 530 and it suppose to run at 7,000+ MB/s. Until now I could only get it to read at 3,465.20.
@Abel Billy Alvarez All my videos so far are legit except for the one on April fool's day but I announce that at the end. What motherboard make and model do you have?
@@ShinyTechThings Dell 0427JK. I contacted dell they sent a repair man to my house he replaced the mother board and took off. Didn't even mother to run any test on the Firecuda. After he left i ran the test and it was still slow. I then contacted Seagate and they could not figure out what was wrong with it so i just gave up on them.
@Abel Billy Alvarez Unfortunately that motherboard doesn't support Gen 4 NVMe from what I read here: www.dell.com/community/XPS-Desktops/XPS-8940-not-supporting-PCIe-Gen-4/td-p/7971457 If it's new enough of a system you could return it and get a 12th gen that will hopefully support it but I will say many OEM's will cut corners here if you use model doesn't sell with gen 4 as an upgrade option.
@@ShinyTechThings that explains why it won't run at 7,000 mb/s. I can't believe the Dell and Seagate techs could not figure it out. Dell told me that the mother board was defective so they replaced it and then seagate said the SSD card was defective, but i knew that was not the case. Is it possible to add an adaptor to the mother board to increase the speed or do i need a mother board that will support PCIe Gen4.0 . Thanks for the help, I greatly appreciate it.
@Abel Billy Alvarez From what I read even if you got a pcie adapter the board would still run at the gen 3 speeds. How long ago did you buy this system? If you bought directly from Dell you could demand they exchange it since they misdiagnosed the issue past the return policy but I don't know how much effort it would take to force their hand. Otherwise you'd have to look at finding a motherboard that would fit your case that supports NVMe Gen 4 speeds.
@John07 I do go over this that it does reduce the lifespan of the drive however if you have any of the name brand drives like Western digital and Samsung that can show you how much lifespan is left you can see how much of a difference that it makes to the tbw or terabytes written to determine if you want to still defrag more than once to help increase the speed of the drive. On my current desktop I have been using the Western digital sn850 to do chia crypto mining and I plan on doing some videos to show how much that actually eats away at the lifespan of drive of a drive. I guess I could do the same with defrag and do a before and after with my drive and make a video on that as well.
@RealDeepTH I haven't been able to figure out how to divide by zero yet either, but once I do I will be able to theoretically compress petabytes of data onto a three and a half inch 1.44 MB floppy disk 🤓😎
@Darren Crawford if you are running a low quality drive that has low to no documented TBW for the drive then it's already a unreliable drive. This isn't something that I would do daily but rather as needed. Yes it decreases the lifespan but if your use case would yield 10-15+ years of lifespan but only keep it for 2-5 years I don't see the downside. And defrag /O will manually invoke TRIM so if you have a cheap drive that the drive controller isn't automatically running garbage collection and TRIM it can help. Lastly if your SSD is going to fail, it will fail. Defragging or not you should always have a backup of any system that's important.
Chapters:
0:00 - Beginning of the Speed up SSD Windows 10 Video
0:07 - Baseline the speed of your drive first to Speed up SSD Windows 10
0:55 - shows the speed of your drive
0:59 - Manual optimizations
1:46 - Additional optimizations (May take a while to Speed up SSD Windows 10)
2:09 - Checking Speed up SSD Windows 10 via the task manager
2:36 - on my newer SSD which is a NVMe SSD
3:40 - Credits
Let me know if this helps anyone as I've done this for years without any issues on my own hardware.
@@ShinyTechThings Great video and voice.
I have Samsung EVO 970 Plus 500GB SSD that I installed on an Inspiron 5570 with 32B RAM (max Read 1800 MB/s due to Dell BIOS bottlenecking restriction).
After less than a year, writing (specifically saving a picture from the net or moving a file from one folder to another or even renaming a file was painfully slowwwww, up to 30 seconds, at times).
I thought I should never defrag an SSD. It shortens the life, as you cautioned us, but also I thought it was totally unnecessary, even though Samsung Magician has an Optimize function that I have never used.
Still, I followed your instructions. I felt once a year should be harmless with low impact on TBW.
With /O, and a ew seconds later, free space went from 238.52 GB to 242.66 and 64-bit write speed went up from 1306 MB/s to 1380 MB/s.
With /X, fragmented space was a whopping 18%. An hour has passed (not 9:42 minutes for 3% fragmentation as it shows in your video). The odd thing is that write speeds in the Task Manager on your video show (partial view) write speeds in the range of 50 MB/s (or 500?), while I was getting write speeds around 1 MB/s and below (bizarre).
I will update when the defrag is completed.
@@myemperor the read and write speeds will be small to large speeds as it's testing different methods and speeds. So a large file written will write faster than a bunch of small files equalling the same size as the large file. If the total performance doesn't at least return to the original speeds or close to it then I'd look into what other items like antivirus that may b interfering with the drive. Do you have the latest firmware installed for the drive and Samsung's driver for NVMe? Also if the machine is limited to PCIe 2x instead of 4x the drive will always perform slower than 2000MB/sec.
@@ShinyTechThings Yes... Inspiron 5570 is limited to PSIe 2x... and DELL are too lazy to update the BIOS and solve this problem.
Update: It took around 3 hours to complete... The post defrag left the SSD 18% fragmented... So, basically, the defrag was not needed...
I ran winsat disk, and the read speed went down to 1276 MB/s. The Read speed is 1748 MB/s is apparently unaffected by the defrag...
@@ShinyTechThings To respond to you, I have Norton 360...
I've been getting ridiculously slow read/write times and this saved me. thank you so much!
@KillerRiceCracker glad I could help. This also means that the controller on the drive most likely isn't running garbage collection and or or TRIM correctly or as often as it should. If it's a OEM drive I expect it but if you paid for a drive and upgraded yourself to it then check to see if there's a firmware update. What drive do you have and how long has it been since you installed the OS?
@@ShinyTechThings I'm not sure how to check what drive it is and I got windows 10 when I built my computer in 2020 I believe
@@KillerRiceCracker Pull up the task manager using Ctrl+Shift+Esc then click on more details on the bottom left if you've never clicked on before. Then click on the performance tab and select the disk. It should show you on the right side a model number of the drive.
@@ShinyTechThings oh sweet I'll do that when I get home thanks bro
@KillerRiceCracker glad I could help.
Dude Tech Support Tuesday was an amazing idea! These videos are absolute godsends!
Thanks! I'll do my best to keep it up!
Best Video for SSD optimization
really helped me a lot
thanks
@Aswin Suresh Glad my video helped. Let me know if you have nay other questions that I might be able to help with. 👍
wow, from 1318 mb/s ..... up to 2059.25 mb/s !!! that's a solid improvement!
@carlosvfxart I suspect it's from TRIM refreshing the cells after shuffling around the data. The controller supposed to do all this transparently but for whatever reason lots of drives even high end ones seem to behave less than perfect.
@sergplayz6836 It's just NVMe. What SSD do you have?
DO NOT DEFRAG YOUR SSD PEOPLE! Such aweful advice. Please just type "should you defrag an SSD" or something into RUclips and make your own mind up on if you should do this or not.
@Kagan Rustem what make, model and size of SSD do you have?
@@KaganRustem bruh unless you have an old pc which was never updated since launched then you are right because only an old Windows will defrag an SSD or NVME else rest will only allow to optimise/trim the drive and that's what we can see in the video. "GET SOME KNOWLEDGE BEFORE SPITTING IT OUT"
@BILAL_HACKER I defrag *and* trim on windows 11. /O is optimize so that means TRIM on a SSD and /X is /FreeSpaceConsolidate so yes, you can defrag a SSD. This will shuffle the files around on the SSD's cells using the defrag utility. Should I do a video going over all of the options for the defrag utility?
And trim won't affect m.2/SSD because it will just check those blocks and tell SSD to ignore invalid stuff which can "improve performance" at some point
@BILAL_HACKER TRIM just tells the drive to do what it supposed to do already but the /X does shift things around on the drive it does cause wear but most consumer SSD's still have more TBW (terabytes written) than what most people would ever write themselves. I do always recommend having a good backup of anything important because Hardware can fail anyways without notice.
Thanks it helped a bit when I tried it on one system and a lot on another but on my newest it was already pretty fast so it didn't make any difference but my older laptop and desktop it did. Thanks for making this mister shiny Guy!
Glad it helped. Mileage will vary from system to system and drive to drive. Overall it's helped me on countless systems I've worked on over the years. 👍
@@ShinyTechThings erm how take hours to defrag/optimize in 3 years old hdd?
@Ryland Gallanosa if it's a regular spinning hard drive, yes it can take many hours to run especially if it's never been defragged and it also depends on the rotational speed of the disk. E.G. a 7200 RPM HDD it will take less time than a 5400 RPM HDD would.
@@ShinyTechThings my hard drive is st1000lm035-1rk172 so it take 5400 rpm
also used some bit defrag to boost a wee bit
That model number looks like it is a 1 terabyte so it is more designed for lots of storage at a inexpensive price rather than speed like a SSD but after defragmenting you can run a benchmark to see how fast it performs. It may take several times of defragmenting to get it to go as fast as possible depending on how full the hard drive is and how fragmented it was.
Fantastic tutorial! Fingers crossed it’s fixed my issues. Was getting 10MB/s sequential write on the test before and now I’m at 170!
@GeoDen it may be that your drive for whatever reason isn't running TRIM as often as it supposed to. Did you upgrade to a SSD and image over or did it always have a SSD? What drive do you have?
@@ShinyTechThings Fresh install on an ssd. Just never ran an optimisation or a consolidation in the past 2 years.
@GeoDen What's the make and model of your SSD? Have you checked to see if there's any firmware updates available for it?
Really useful my Random 16.0 Read went from 14.91MB/s to 247.91 MB/s and my Sequential 64.0 Read went from 273.35 MB/s to 1163.63 MB/s
I'm glad it helped you out. It can make a huge difference.
Jesus!!
@BeastmodeBeats No, but I know him 😉
Thanks, my new Ssd on my laptop was very slow for some reason and was only doing 28mbps Max and I am now getting 190mbps. Keep up the great work
@axebeetle I'm glad it helped you out. I don't know why Microsoft doesn't force something like this in the background to keep things running smoothly. I do on my own machines at least several times a year and it's usually a noticeable difference afterwards. One of the things to keep in mind is you don't want to have your SSD completely filled up as that will slow it way down because it can't shuffle the cells around as efficiently to do wear leveling.
@@ShinyTechThings Yeah, wish Mircosoft would force this, it would help tons of people. But hey for the time being, it's a good thing your here with the easy great video, I bet it will helps tons!
Oh yes that's right, in 2 years, 2 months and 10 days later, I finally fixed my issue, fixed the lag, stutter issues on my Samsung portable solid state drive t7 shield external drive to speed up while gaming since I got my Samsung portable ssd t7 shield on Christmas in 1 month and 9 days now, since the night before.
Nice!
Bro, this video and your TRIM tutorial really helps. I thought my ssd is completely broken and i need to buy a new one. Thanks🎉
@Aditya Parameswara Glad it helped
Started off with 506.57MB Reading Speed and 35.94MB Writing Speed
Ended up with 482.83MB Reading Speed and 37.17MB Writing Speed
uh..
@Insanity Prevails how much space is free on the drive and what size is it?
@@ShinyTechThings It's a 250GB SSD and I have 192GB* free
@Insanity Prevails the only thing I can think of on why it could perform slower is that something else was consuming disk I/O at that time. If you run the benchmark again after the system is idle for a while how does it perform? Is TRIM enabled? What motherboard do you have or what system is it on? You could also temporarily uninstall any antivirus software as those write speeds seem like you don't have AHCI enabled on the motherboard or something like antivirus is crippling it with a corrupted update or take too much resources for it to perform.
@Insanity Prevails here's a video of how to check if TRIM is enabled and how to enable it.
ruclips.net/video/laCSoJ6NnOc/видео.html
@@ShinyTechThings TRIM is enabled, and I ran it like you said in your video :(
I'm going to try this thank you for this
No prob, glad I could help.
my ssd takes so much time i cant even get pass the first step
What's the make and model of your drive?
Great video! So what about running "BootOptimiziation" ... any thoughts(?)
@WJK I already made a video on that, check it out and let me know if it helps you out or if you have any questions.
ruclips.net/video/7rSHM5--HBs/видео.html
Ummm...
My SSD got SLOWER doing this :/
What drive do you have? What size is it? How much space is currently in use?
@@ShinyTechThings I'll check the details when I'm home, but its a 1TB Samsung SSD and it has about 380GB of unused space/ storage right now
@halowalker797 what speeds are you getting and is it a SATA or NVMe drive?
@@ShinyTechThings alr so:
Samsung SSD 870 QVO 1TB
I believe its SATA
Speeds are in the KB/s range :'/
@halowalker does it run that slow copying a single large file? Do you know if TRIM is enabled? What computer is this in? In the bios, do you know if it is set to AHCI or IDE? Don't make a change in the bios without having a backup of your machine because it could cause windows to not boot. But if we need to go down that path I can point you in the direction of how to hopefully avoid all those headaches.
omg it worked thanks alot
@RedMushroom23 You're welcome! I'm glad to help with anything technical!
Defrag the ssd will shorten the ssd life right?
Correct, but unless you are running a really old or really cheap SSD then there is very limited risk involved. As always I highly recommend having a backup of all of your important data and if you don't have a backup already I cannot stress how important it is to do so. Even if it's just putting critical documents somewhere on the cloud under a free storage tier and if you don't trust the cloud then encrypt your files before putting them into the cloud.
@@ShinyTechThings this is objectively bad advice, and goes directly against what SSD manufacturers advice. Unless we are talking about a mechanical drive, there is 0 advantage to defragmenting a drive, literally only drawbacks. Please stop perpetuating this misnomer.
@@KaganRustem It's not misinformation and if you understand how SSD's work and you don't hammer the snot out of your consumer SSD with a heavily used database by taxing it's TBW then a defrag here and there is nothing. Good quality SSD's have additional storage that you can't access that is swapped out under the hood as part of the wear leveling of a disk. If you want an extended life to your SSD, just overprovision it and it does the same concept with the unpartitioned space with the active partition. So to determine what will actually occur I'll buy a consumer SSD that I'll load up and defrag for a month 24/7 and see what the health stats tell us. I've mined chia and have some interesting stats on that but that will be in a future video as well. You might be surprised, but either way I think it would make a good video on if we can kill a drive in 30 days of constant defragmentation. Should I go NVMe or SATA based SSD for this test?
I tought it's not good to defrag a SSD DRIVE.
Yes and no. It does decrease teh lifespan but unless you have a really old SSD they are able to handle more write cycles than most consumers will ever abuse the drive with.
@@ShinyTechThings how can i revert?, i defraged and saw this right after, any way of reverting?, not looking foward to shortening the life span of my ssd...
@Kelo SSD's are designed to behave this way. Most manufacturers have free software utilities to be able to tell you the status of the life span of your SSD. Under normal use (not crypto mining Chia) most SSD's will outlive the lifespan of most home and business users. Doing a defrag although does decrease the life span slightly in most cases restoring speed is more of the desired affect. One can also over provision their SSD to help increase the life span. This is where say for example you have a 500GB SSD but only create a partition of 480GB. By leaving the remaining 20GB the controller performs what's called wear leveling where it basically changes what cells it is using inside of the drive over time to provide the best performance as well as lifespan to the drive. Most manufacturers include a little bit of extra space inside of the drive that you can't see just for this case. If you are concerned about the lifespan of your drive then again I recommend using the manufacturer tools to look at the estimated lifespan of the drive and also be sure to have a good backup system in place in the event of a failure.
my reads was slightly reduced but my writes went up i didn't move the free space part!
@Antoine Finch it depends on what's causing the slowdown. Be sure to clean up temporary files and free up as much space as you can so the drive can run more efficiently. Let me know the final results when you get a chance. 👍
@Shiny Tech Things
#question
i am using a external ssd (crucial ssd+ usb 3 enclosure)
Should i keep the ssd in mbr or gpt ? Which is faster ? (i also use the ssd with phone )
@stormbreaker82 GPT keeps backup copies of the partition table so it can be checked for corruption but with your phone you would have to just test and see if it works and how it performs but please let me know your results. As for the speed I've read it helps but I've never benchmarked it and haven't noticed any raw speed differences. GPT allows you to use larger than 2TB disks.
@@ShinyTechThings thanks for replying 👍
I always reply, the exception to that is if the comment gets buried in a thread and I don't see it. But if you post a new comment I always respond if it's a question.
@@ShinyTechThings good , thanks , subscribed 👍
@stormbreaker82 Thanks for your support!
Thx bro appreciate 😁😁
@fadaaqusay3204 you're welcome and I'm glad it helped you out!👍
Great info.
Glad you found it beneficial 👍
It showed 49% fragmented space. After I ran consolidate free space it still showed 49% fragmented space
That's interesting, Did you reboot afterwards and check it again? What make and model SSD do you currently run?
i liked the 999th one :) (thanks it helped me )
Did you search hundreds of videos before finding this one?
@@ShinyTechThings let me be honest :) naah (cause ur video was the first one in the list hehe (if u are asking about the like part i said that u video had 998 likes and i liked and made it 999 :)
@HARSHITCHANDRA2008 oh WOW I didn't even check that and I see now your original comment literally says that. Thanks for clarifying and for your support with the likes! It truly does help support the channel at no cost other than a click or a tap. If you have any technical questions feel free to ask in a comment as I respond to all questions.
@@ShinyTechThings your welcome dude ! u gained a sub :)
@HARSHITCHANDRA2008 thank you! What types of content do you enjoy watching that my channel might have already made or may make in the future? I had a post asking people as a community post if you want to take a look at that. I think it was a few weeks ago? And go ahead and vote and drop a comment of anything specific if you like. Thanks in advance!
defraging an ssd is not a good idea.
@RickTech-wx6oj I disagree with that to a degree. Yes it decreases it's lifespan though the use of writes, however if you have a good SSD most have TBW (terabytes written) lifespans that far exceed the use of most people out there. What SSD do you currently have and what speeds are you getting?
Is there a reason why my SSD is detected as a HDD on task manager, the shape and sticker info on the drive literally says it's an SSD
edit: I think it's a WD digital blue 1TB SSD, and how long should the optimization defrag take, and should i even do it if i have this problem?
I have seen this a few times in task manager and the defrag seems fine but before doing it's always best practice to back up anything that is important. I have not gone down the rabbit hole yet on how to change it from HDD to SSD if that's even possible, but from my understanding it is just a bug in the OS. When I spoke with an OEM about it they claimed it was only cosmetic and if it really bothered me to just rebuild the system. I'm not sure how accurate they're response was, but it's been running fine for years for them so it seems to be fine.
@@ShinyTechThings I just discovered I was sold a SSHD while it was listed as a SSD, figured out by searching my storage device's serial number as I found about the glitch in the OS your talking about, and it let to a WD page of a SSHD for sale from the official site, nevertheless the video did help boost my speeds as originally I wanted to speed up my "SSD" to stop bottlenecking my download speeds on steam, and it worked out great so thank you, informative regardless
@internetisdrunk9084 I'm glad it helped. It's been years since I came across a SSD in the wild. I bought one for my Lenovo T420 in around 2009 or so as a full SSD was way too expensive back then. They were a nice balance of speed, size and price.
Not working on my new Crucial X8 1TB. Brand telling sequential 1050MB/s and i'm getting only 800read and 600 - 700 write after attempting many fixations.
@Patrick Bhardwaj I came across an article on people complaining about speeds on their PS5's that if you wanted to at your own risk try flashing the firmware but it may or may not help or possibly damage the drive if it's not the correct firmware. How are you testing the drive to determine its read and write speeds? www.reddit.com/r/PS5/comments/k3vcpg/is_anyone_here_using_a_crucial_x8_external_ssd/?
@@ShinyTechThings thanks for help. But I'm facing problem in MacBook and windows 10.
Can you tell me how to update firmware instead of flashing?
@Patrick Bhardwaj looks like I there's no firmware updates for the drive but I have an idea what's going on now. I suspect you've formatted the drive as exFAT to be used on both Mac and Windows in which case your performance can be significantly slower than expected. Ideally you'd want to either use 2 drives natively or create 2 partitions one being NTFS and the other APFS but you'll need to move your data off of the drive first because doing this will erase the drive. Think of exFAT as a compatibility mode that can be used by Mac and Windows but at the cost of space and speed as it's not as efficient as using APFS or NTFS. Here's a good article on this:
www.makeuseof.com/tag/mac-file-system-external-drive/
I'm COOOKED getting ~3MB/s on my SSD.
It's so weird.
@TennessseTimmy What's the make, model and size of your SSD? Also how much space is in use? How old is the drive?
@@ShinyTechThings
I disabled memory compression and now it speed up
@TennessseTimmy what CPU do you have?
@@ShinyTechThings 5800x3d
That's got plenty of power so memory compression shouldn't be affecting that. Do you have any third-party antivirus running? What's the make and model of the drive?
Thanks a lot!
@ERjX9 No problem, I'm glad to help!
i subscribed. this video helped me get 600MB/s speed while copying a 10GB zip file and it's much faster now.
@PCGaming that's great that it helped you out, in most cases it's beneficial to increase your speed. Depending on the make and model of your drive and the controller that it uses sometimes freeing up space and removing temporary files beforehand can increase the performance even more but based on the speed you posted I'm guessing it is a SATA SSD? What make, mode,l and size Drive do you have?
@@ShinyTechThings I use an NVMe SSD with 512GB of space
@@ShinyTechThings The controller is the standard NVMe controller
@@ShinyTechThings Sorry for answering in 3 comments but i just remember about something. It's a samsung SSD for my HP laptop. btw It uses PCIE 3.0
@PCGaming what is the drive make and model number? If it's NVMe you should get faster than those speeds. Otherwise it could be a M.2 2280 SATA drive which looks very similar to NVMe.
1:18 they said i dont have the permissions to do that,then what should i do?
@OP Hamson you have to open the command prompt as administrator then run the commands. Let me know if that works for you.
The command prompt tells me normal speeds for my ssd (Kingston SNVS500G) but it can go down to the kb/s when doing most operations it is properly cooled and the current firmware in the ssd manager tells me i have the latest but its from 2022 and the site tells me 2023 was the last update? I think its the issue
@Osu930 what are the sizes of the files that you are copying when it's slow?
/O c: didn't work
@Glitched Mitch Did you get an error? What OS are you running?
thank you so much! it helped and my Pc is way faster now
@Taha BMS I'm glad I could help. Also have you checked if TRIM is enabled? I'll post that video in a reply shortly.
@Taha BMS here's how to enable TRIM if it's not already.
ruclips.net/video/laCSoJ6NnOc/видео.html
Also what drive do you have?
I use a small 128GB Sata SSD from team group And I will be upgrading to M.2 soon
@Taha BMS if your board supports NVMe I'd recommend that over a M.2 SATA. The ends of the drives are similar so be sure to check and see what it supports or it might not work on your system. Also depending on who makes your motherboard it might not have all the PCIe lanes so you might not be able to get full speed. Who makes your computer and can you see the model number of the motherboard?
@@ShinyTechThings I have an ASUS PRIME B450M-K II
After i used "/X" its just started and never stopped its been more then and hour... help
You can hold CTRL+ press the letter "C" to cancel it out. I suspect it has lots of fragmentation that is taking a very long time. What brand of drive do you have? What size and how much free space does it have?
I will try this tomorrow.
I have 970 Evo Plus 1tb and my sequential write is 99% of the time I run a test between 1000 and 1700 MB/s, instead of 3200 MB/s. I've tried literally every single solution on the Internet and nothing fixed it. Could it simply be defective?
- temperatures are normal
- my Asus z270g has two m.2 PCI 3x4 sockets. So full speed on any of them
- updated bios, windows, Samsung magician, ssd firmware
- installed Samsung nvme driver
- write cache is enabled
@comedyman112 How are you testing the speeds?
@@ShinyTechThings crystal disk mark 8 and Samsung magician
@@ShinyTechThings When I run 1GB tests on crystal mark i get half write speeds, like I said. When I run 64MB tests on crystal mark (like CMD does) I always get full speed. Why is that?
L.E. even CMD shows 1000-1700 MB/s now instead of the initial 3300 MB/s
Have you checked in the bios that the speed of the pcie is 4X instead of 2X? There might be a setting. Or some motherboards have multiple M.2 slots and the first one is full speed and the second one is 2X speed. Please let me know what you find out.
@comedyman112 It supposed to behave like that because of how a drives garbage collection runs and how the cache was designed. For example if you copy a 30GB file between 2 of those drives you'll see it copying the large file at full speeds until the cache of the drive is exceeded on the drive that is being written to then it will slow down to a crawl. Synthetic benchmarking programs will show you how it performs under the different types of scenarios and workloads. If you copy a whole bunch of tiny files, it doesn't matter how fast your NVMe drive is. There is no way it can write as fast as you think it would as a advertised speed because it has to create the file, open the file, write into the file, close the file, and then disconnect from the file and then repeat all over again. But one thing that you can check to make sure your drive is running as expected is to look at other benchmark and reviews of your particular make and model and compare the screenshots of their results to what you are seeing on yours. The Samsung Pro SSD's will perform a little bit better than the Evo versions, but unless if you are running something that would have a workload that would benefit from it then in most cases it's not worth the additional money. Please let me know how your benchmarks compared to screenshots of some of the other reviews out there online.
Check your BIOS first. I'd removed all my overclock settings and set the motherboard to default after errors running unity. This enabled all SATA lanes and messed up my PCIE bus. Simply disabling channels not in use and setting to M.2 from auto doubled my speeds.
@polla2256 If there were some bad settings in the bios with overclocking then all sorts of weird things can happen, including burning out on board ethernet adapters. I've seen that happen more than once. I typically recommend just letting the bios run on auto for any of the performance and just enable XMP if you have supported memory and call it a day. Sure! You might be able to squeeze a couple more percent out of a system for performance with overclocking, but the risks aren't really worth it IMO.
У меня ssd m.2 со скоростями 3000 мб/с, но при копировании файлов получается 100 мб/с. Я не понял данный ролик, можно по проще без воды?
Hey i did the free space consilidation and the usage of my SSD in the Task manager went down again to like 1%. But in the cmd i can't type anything and it doesn't show anything new, does this mean it is still running or is it finished?
@erectilereptile947 most likely it's still running. Try pressing return a few times and see if anything changes.
bro ur the best
@we do some trooling Thanks! Glad it helped you out. Let me know if you have any technical questions in general as I may make it in a upcoming video for you if I haven't made it already. Also be sure to check out my community page as well.
I have done this and read and write speeds are as advertised on my ssd in the command center but in the task manager i still have very low read and write speeds. How do I fix that problem?
There is not a problem, it is the type of data that you are copying. Meaning, if you are copying lots of small files, it has to open the file handler right inside of it and then close the file and disconnect and then dispose of that connection and then repeat. That is why if you copy a single large file than the performance is faster than lots of tiny files.
@@ShinyTechThings oh ok. I understand now thanks
꧁Solus_Prime꧂ No problem, I'm glad I could help.
helped so much ty
@Glitched Mitch Glad to help, let me know if you have any technical questions that I can help with.
Hi sorry im late here , but do you have to do this repeatedly everytime it gets slow ?
@dragonkiin That depends on the root cause of the symptom. I typically run a few times a year when I notice that my drive is running sluggish but it also depends on what drive you have and how full it is. What drive do you have and how full is it?
@@ShinyTechThings i just found out that my drive emtec x150 240 gbs has acutally bad cache that's why it's so slow it shifts from 500mb/s write to stabilize around 5-30 mb/s which is fine since it's used mostly for windows and some games.
@dragonkiin does it do that if you are copying just a really large single file?
Clever
@Milan Mondal it works for me and I regularly do it just to keep things running fast.
Hi! When I check the read and write of my external SSD, it shows 40 mb/s which is ridiculously slow. Then I command "defrag /O f:" to optimize my external SSD (disk F), nothing happens. Any solution?
@hattorihanzo8549 are you using an external SATA to USB enclosure or adapter or is it a native USB SSD?
im using external ssd and using type c to usb@@ShinyTechThings
Hey I did this and now my SSD is unresponsive and keeps on crashing error DCP watchdog violation
@pro gamer What SSD do you have? How big is it and how much space is in use?
@pro gamer the DPC watchdog is just telling you that a program is unresponsive. If you pull from your event viewer it will hopefully give you more information as to what is having the issue.
Srry for the late reply but do you know how I can find the app so I can just uninstall it?
@pro gamer you uninstall using the control panel but you need to see what program it is looking in the event viewer.
i just brought a new ssd and in crystaldisk the speed are:
Read 500 mb
Write :450mb
However when i am copying files I am only getting speed of 100mb or even less.Please help
Its a new ssd which i brought 2-3 days ago..
@One human That may be the correct speeds, it depends on what you are copying. So a 5GB ISO file for example from one SSD to another should write as fast as it can be pulled from the read. With smaller files it will slow way down. Say gigs of documents or files from a program or game folder drive to drive will be slow as you have:
Create file
Write data
Close file
All happening under the hood.
That takes time which causes the slowness.
Also copying from and to the same drive will never hit the maximum speeds. If copying from a regular hard drive to the SSD, your bottleneck is the HDD.
How are you testing the copy speeds exactly?
@@ShinyTechThings i am copying from my old hdd to ssd.
Even i tried installing games from the ssd drive as well and it fluctuates a lot ..like the speed is not constant and one more thing that whenever i am copying files from hdd to ssd.My ssd only utilizes 20-30% then spikes to 99 then again back to 20-30%.
Btw i am using asrock h91 s1 plus mobo and haswell i5 4440
@One human your bottleneck is the HDD copying when copying from your old drive. And when installing stuff typically an installer will be extracting lots of smaller files and you cannot write lots of small files at high speeds because of the overhead. it has to create the file, open the file, write data inside of the file, close the file over and over again. When you run your benchmark look at the smallest numbers for like the 4K sequential write speeds. That is more realistic however it can be more and less than those numbers because those are synthetic benchmarks.
@@ShinyTechThings ya i also think so..these hdd are more than 10years old and works well.Its okay as i am satisfied with windows boot up and playing games ssd is working fine ..thanks bro for the reply.
@One human here's a video on tuning boot times that can hall speed it up a bit.
ruclips.net/video/7rSHM5--HBs/видео.html
it says that i am capable of speeds over 2000 mb yet i am getting active speeds under 1 mb consistently.... Very frustrating, considering i need higher speeds for ableton live. please help
@KillerRiceCracker how are you measuring the speeds and what's your full system specs?
My ssd get extremely slowed down once in week. write speed automatically goes drastically Down around 6-9mbps and this issue comes once in week but whenever i update my laptop it's automatically fix itself after a day but it's very annoying i don't know how does this works can you please tell me what's going on with my laptop?
@Rahul What laptop is it?
@@ShinyTechThings Its acer nitro 5 2019 model when i purchased this laptop it was having hard drive but i recently upgraded to ssd around 6-8 months ago sorry about bad English
@Rahul No worries on the English. What SSD did you install? Did you clone the operating system to the new SSD or reinstall from scratch?
@@ShinyTechThings i brought crucial ssd BX500SSD1
And they installed new windows 10 on my laptop even though my laptop had its original windows 10 but when i installed ssd they installed new windows 10 on it. but recently i got frustrated of this issue and i reset my laptop and installed new windows 10 again but this issue not fixing. it's fix itself when i update my laptop but it takes two days and it will automatically fix it self i have only one income resource and it's this my laptop but i don't know what i should do now please help me if you have any knowledge of this issue
Thank you!
@Rahul take a look at this article.
forums.tomshardware.com/threads/ssd-crucical-bx500-super-slow.3728770/
I'd look at the S.M.A.R.T. stats of the drive and see how much data has been written. Also is your system set to AHCI? You can't just change it though. You can change and use safe mode and then change back to regular booting, otherwise it's a reinstall of windows. Did you try manually trimming with "defrag c: /O" ? Does that make a difference?
more speed up ssd windows 10 pleaseee!!
What drive do you have?
@@ShinyTechThings SSD samsung 1 tb nvme :D I dont know why it became slower.. when i Delete just 1 photos it took 1.5 seconds to delete.. then I research how to fast up this slow thing and found you ahahha thanks !!!!
@emmanm5633 is it running the latest firmware? You can check this with the Samsung magician software.
Hello bro my laptop has 16gb ram and 256ssd and i5 5th gen cpu but my laptop is slow please help me to fix this problem
What speeds are you getting on the SSD when you run this before and after?
After my laptop is speedup but I am not satisfied
What speeds are you getting? What is the make and model of the drive?
Doesn't defraging make your ssd slow
@Dark Note Gaming it shouldn't unless you have some other issues that are unaddressed like your drive is already mostly full or a failing drive or a counterfeit drive. What drive do you have, what symptoms do you currently have and what have you done so far?
@@ShinyTechThings I have Consistent 256 GB SSD which I bought 3 weeks ago with a new pc and I was customizing windows 10 removing it's bloatwares and making my pc lighter. But after windows 10 22H2 update came i tried to install and and it stopped in the middle i did a lot of things i could to solve it but a time come when my pc was so slow it took around 9 sec to even open setting then after a soft reset it seemed to work better but not good then i downloaded the 22H2 thinking it will grain it's real speed again but still it hasn't improved and whenever i start my pc it is stuch for 3 sec after the windows home screen pops up. So ya that it not it's you turn to give me solutions.
for me the performance decreased after doing these steps :(
@Subhan S.S.K What drive is it? How big is it? How much space is in use currently?
@@ShinyTechThings its the drive with windows (c drive) 256gb ssd with 84gb space left. the performance of games installed in drive has decreased alot after following your steps. is there any thing i can do to undo all the steps?
@@subhans.s.k9770 we need to determine why it would decrease the performance because it never should unless if you have a really old machine that is not set up to use AHCI instead of IDE which would just not allow trim to run but it also could just be an issue with the drive, what is the manufacturer of the drive and model number? There might be a firmware update or something that addresses a slowdown issue. Also what are the specs of the computer including the make and model? If it's been manufactured within the last decade it should be using AHCI or something similar which allows TRIM to run
can you make tutorial how to fix ssd when downloading something or installing my ssd is ggetting 100% active time when it happens my computer getting slower
@lordlorkan6920 What's the make and model of the SSD?
havent try but i'll try it later, my ssd boot so slow(2-3mins windows 10 pro reformated still the same) its like an hdd, i3 4170 8gb maybe you guys have advices i almost tried everything i guess beside that bios ishhh maybe on the mobo but cant find someone same problem as mine.
@naX Candela Start with this video:
ruclips.net/video/7rSHM5--HBs/видео.html
Also I'd double check your BIOS to see if it's set to AHCI or not. Don't make the change though without backing up everything first.
Will I lose any data? Also can I do this for my external HDD
@pl4tinumslapz The only way you would lose data is if your SSD was about to fail anyways. Yes you can do this to an external drive as well.
@@ShinyTechThings my read and write went up after defrag but went back to earlier speeds after the free space consolidation any help?
@Streamer LOOT would you mind explaining a little more detail as to your results after each command? Also there is a chance that your system might still be doing something in the background causing additional overhead. You can check this by opening up the task manager and looking at your disc access.
Are this is changed the data?,i bought a ssd 4 week ago,but from the first install why i just get 250nb/s speed on 3.2 sata?,or bc i using celeron n2840?
I would take a look at your task manager as you are running various benchmarks because it is a good possibility that the Celeron is the bottleneck of the system.
No....!!!
i dont want to spoil my ssd. defragging an ssd is so bad.. i dont want to do this
@Techly Zend You could just run TRIM manually which I explained which is safe as per the design of the drive which can help make up for a poorly designed controller on cheap drives not running as often as it should. The moving of files around is basically just stirring the pot to freshen up where stuff lives. In all the years I've been doing this I have had 0 SSD drive failures on the drives I run this on for years but want to note that it has been on Samsung, Intel, and Toshiba drives both consumer and enterprise drives so if you use off brand drives it could have a bigger affect on the performance and reliability of the drive. Although it does reduce the lifespan, if your workload on your drive was say 10+ years of expected life under that load, shaving off a few days would be outside of it's usable life anyways unless you plan on keeping the same hardware for that long then I would say just live with the performance loss if TRIM doesn't help. Formatting and reinstalling should also give similar results in performance gains but would put more wear on the SSD than defragging it. One thing you should NEVER do though is mine Chia on a SSD as it eats through it so fast. I've done some tests on that and will be releasing a video on it and some ways around it and extending the live of such a drive without burning through the TBW (Terabytes Written) nearly as fast but still having great performance while not wearing out the drive nearly as fast.
Bro I'm getting 50 mbps on copying files. Is that really works? I've 500gb nvme m. 2 ssd
This does work but your workload might not be realistic. Copy a single large file and see what the speed is first. Also how much space is free?
Nice, my nvme write increased from 1742 MB/s to 2378 MB/s
Glad it helped, and I've seen the same over the years. In the event that it doesn't make any difference then usually that issue comes from the drive being too full to shuffle things around and to properly run at full speed or something completely different altogether like SATA1, no AHCI support , or a virus or something. Thanks for the update! Let me know any other questions that you might have and I might just make a video on it! 👍
@1337 just realized your username. EPIC!🤓😎
is not work for me its stop by -seq -write' i still weight for 3 hour no move one help please
Hold the "CTRL" key and press the letter "C" which should cancel the operation. You can also just click the red X to close the command line and it will stop the process. What drive do you have and how much space is currently free?
@@ShinyTechThings 1 tb free
What's the brand and model of the drive?
@@ShinyTechThings green with white made in malaysia . no name
@Fred Vandermeulen Take a look at this article below but it may be that your SSD isn't the size it claims to be. I'd definitely backup any important data just in case it completely fails or overwrites existing data from being counterfeit.
www.datarecoveryspecialists.co.uk/blog/how-to-spot-a-fake-ssd#:~:text=A%20fake%20SSD%20will%20probably,to%20display%20a%20higher%20capacity.
Bro I am using 970 evo plus. in past I used gigabyte b450 motherboard my boot time is 10sec now I am using msi x570 gaming pro carbon wifi now booting time is 20sec what I need to do to decrease my boot time under 10sec .
Did you just swap out the board or reinstall everything?
What… i did this and it made my ssd slower
@bettwr6207 what make and model and size drive do you have? What's the make and model of your system that it's in as well?
@@ShinyTechThings the drive i used was a sansdisk extreme portable 500gb
When i read the version of the drives firmware it said it released in 2006 which didnt make sense
I also got speeds of 35/40 mb/s even though i tried another hdd on my laptop and got speeds of 80mb/s
At the end i returned the ssd bcs i tried everything i think it was either a counterfeit or a malgunctioning one
The laprop i used with is acer aspire a315….
Which got a 3.0 usb port thats why i got 80mb/s and other ports around 40mb/s
you are faking genius god lvl ahhahahahahahahh I have ssd but fak it delete photos 2 seconds delay omgggg!!! when i did this it delete instantly thank you so much!!! VERYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! wortjh it
Thank you for the compliment 🤓
Really nice video and very easy to do. sadly i couldnt fix my 5mb write speed problem on my fury 1 tb ssd.. ı tried everything in not just this video but everything in internet.. :(
@alicanaltun8448 What motherboard do you have?
What does it mean if the test crashes when i try to run it?
@braylonmanuel9978 what does it output at the prompt?
Hello! I have a Crucial BX500 and from day to other it started to read at 500mb/s(normal) but write 10mb/s, I reinstaled system and same issue, after doing steps on the video it went to write 100mb/s, but it supposed to go to 550 mb/s, any help?
@Emiliano Rios what motherboard do you have?
@@ShinyTechThings I have a laptop, acer aspire es1-572
@Emiliano Rios So it looks like that drive unfortunately doesn't have dram and is qlc. Is your drive new and within the return period by chance?
www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/xgvjge/crucial_bx500_ssd_slow_4k_readwrite_speeds/?
@@ShinyTechThings Yeah, only 8 months, I have 1 year guarantee
@Emiliano Rios you could try to RMA it but from what I'm reading, the poor performance is to be expected with that type of design, although not quite as bad as you are describing so an RMA might fix it.
Defrag an SSD? R u serious?
@Wing Lau Yes, but first you run trim manually. Yes doing the actual defrag will decrease the life span slightly but even in the wild of thousands of machines I've worked on over the last decade I can count on my hands the SSD failures I've seen. I've seen more than triple the failures with mechanical drives over the same time span.
no effect on my portable ssd my read is 17.99mb/s and write is 5.32mb/s i think its from the cabel what do you think
@ionkohristov5927 Most definitely as long as the drive is physically fine. I would start with that but it could also be the controller adapting USB over to SATA inside of the enclosure. Or it could be the drive itself but 99% of the time it is the cable. Please let me know your findings after you swap out the cable.
@@ShinyTechThings Thank you so much i will let you know when i buy a new cable i have only one cable from my phone and I’m using it the cable is not 3.0 USB so maybe this is the problem
@ionkohristov5927 sounds good, thanks!
@@ShinyTechThings Hi well i buy a new cable for transfer data its USB 3.0 and the max write speed is 19mb/s so what i can do now or its just fake ssd
@ionkohristov5927 It's hard to say, what's the make and model of the drive? Where did you buy it from? How much did you pay for it?
Acer aspire 4730z SSD speed red 280😭
Plz comen😭
@Dany Supa was that before or after? How much space is free and what's the size of the drive and the drive model which can be found in the device manager.
@@ShinyTechThings my mainboard is old, still sata 2. what effect
Since SATA2 theoritical max speed is 300MB/s then what you are seeing isn't bad. Just limited to SATA2 speeds without replacing it completely unfortunately since you said your motherboard is old and on a laptop you can't always easily Frankenstein it with a newer board.
i am doing it but nothing is happening in the cmd !!!
What's is the make, model, and size of the drive? How much space is currently free?
@@ShinyTechThings silicon power sata 3 ssd 256gb x15
@@ShinyTechThings free space is 26.5 gb of 237gb actual in windows
@@ShinyTechThings
when i do defrag /o c:
Nothing happen
@@ShinyTechThings ssd model name sp a55
Will it work on external ssd as well?
I would say that would most likely depend on the external adapter or enclosure as long as it supports TRIM I don't see why it wouldn't.
Mine got worse speeds after. 🤔
@mwtallboy25 what's the make, model, size and storage amount currently used?
@@ShinyTechThings Its a 128Gb ssd that came with my Dell laptop. Not sure about the brand. I had just done a fresh win 11 install. I copied a file and it seemed a bit slow. Both read and write speed went down by 10-15% after the optimisation. 😅
@@ShinyTechThings The amount currently used is just the windows 11 installation. I left around 20Gb unallocated when I did the disk partition.
@metallboy25 I suspect something is going on in the background as it shouldn't be slowing it down. Leaving space unpartitioned should help extend the lifespan by overprovisioning it and since it's a fresh install what does the task manager look like for resources and overhead? It could be building cache files when you tested again or something else consuming resources.
@@ShinyTechThings I dont have it with me anymore. I gave it to my sister. Thanks for the help.
After 1, 2 months Windows startup and shutdown is very slow on my Kingston A400 480GB, whyy ??? Help !!!
What were your speeds before and after running the speed tests and then defragging and testing speeds again? Also how much space is free and what are the specs and model of the PC with this drive init?
@@ShinyTechThings i have 100GB + on C:, and 100GB+ on my K: partition
@@ShinyTechThings 200GB free
@@rage4win_120 are both partitions on the same SSD? If so, what are the speeds when you run them on each partition?
@@ShinyTechThings yes
can u defrag a ssd drive? I thought it will spoil the drive.
@Suresh Steven not necessarily, please see my pinned comment response and let me know if you have any questions. I do plan on making a video to see how much a drive would have to be in defragmented to actually kill it.
Is the defrag of a SSd safe?
@adam schneider it depends, if it's at the end of its lifespan then it could kill it but if not then it could extend the lifespan under certain circumstances. It comes down to TBW (terabytes written) and what's locking up the cells. If your drive is 90% full just normal use of temp files writing and being deleted could wear out the drive. Cleaning up space then moving stuff around using defrag could move stuff from the cells that were just read from (e.g. static files) is then may be moved to cells that are worn, then frees up underused cells. Should you defrag a SSD? Depends on lots of variables. I have a backup so I'll defrag away. I am planning on doing a follow-up video showing how much it takes to kill a drive so it might be a long while until it fails for that video.
Bro today I bought an SSD adata su650 it's mention write speed is 500mbs but I am getting only 150mbps ..is that happening cuz I am using a sata ii cable does sata ii cable decrease speed???
It's probably a BIOS setting or motherboard limitations. SATA2 speeds are 300MB/s but it sounds like you're running at SATA1 speeds. Check the BIOS and see what's supported. Also some ports may be slower on the motherboard than others. What motherboard do you have and what's the bios version?
@@ShinyTechThings my motherboard is pretty old The motherboard I am using is Gigabyte GA-H61M-S it's bios was last updated on 2013 after that no bios update was released ...
@@ShinyTechThings. Bro is there any option to decrease or increase ssd speed in bios??
It looks to be SATA2, I would take a backup and then check of the BIOS is set to AHCI, if not change it but I don't remember if you have to reinstall or not as it's been too long ago. I want to say you could enable trim from DOS or PowerShell without reinstalling.
Here's the specs I could find on that board.
www.gigabyte.com/us/Motherboard/GA-H61M-S2PV-rev-10/sp#sp
@@ShinyTechThings I am running that ssd empty means I have installed nothing on it .I have hdd and connected the ssd and checking the speed
I will let you know my speed change after installing windows
(Does empty ssd and half full ssd differ in speed????)
is there a formula to the before and after TBW
@thegreatfixer what do you mean, could you please rephrase the question?
@@ShinyTechThings when using this script the results will speed up or slow down a given SSD at the expense of the life span / endurance of the Drive AKA: TBW Total Bytes Written. Is there a formula that ?
@@thegreatfixer Not that I'm aware of as every manufacturer's definition of TBW although sounds straightforward but in reality most outperform their TBW specs so it would be difficult to accurately say it would reduce the life span by a certain fraction of a percent. I will say that unless you are Chia mining then the average life of a system being 3-5 years shouldn't have any issues. Also always be sure to have a backup of anything important.
Hi man i have xpg adata spectrix rgb on msi b450 gaming plus motherboard, it doesnt copy at all, it copyes with 50 60 mb per second, i know its pcie 3 but still why so slowly can you help me please?
What are you copying exactly? Is the xpg the destination or the source?
@@ShinyTechThings i copyed arma 3 the game in another folder on xpg drive to see how it copyes but is verry slowly i do have windows on it i copy on the same drive to test the speed but ill install my os on ssd sata 3 kingstone to see how works withouth windows
When you first start copying to it how fast are the speeds? Also if you copy a large single file how fast is it?
@@ShinyTechThings starts from 1,2 GB and in afew seconds is at 50 60 mb with more big files, with one remains at 400 500 700 mb
@@crushcrush5164 it sounds like the cash of the drive is getting filled up and it just can't write any faster so it slows way down. This even happens with Samsung nvme drives as I've shown in one of my previous videos.i believe it was the 10 gigabit switch video. The solution is to step up to used enterprise storage name drives but still they have some limitations or a large pool of SAS drives like 12 drives in raid 10 with a decent controller. When I get home gen 4 I'll be testing those as well but suspect it will be fast for the first 18-40GB and then slow down to a crawl.
my ssd got very slow after defrag
@dirtylove000 what Is the make and model of the drive and how much space is currently used?
@@ShinyTechThings KINGSTON SA400S
60% writed 70gb
@dirtylove000 what speeds are you seeing?
@@ShinyTechThings write at 300 and read at 400
@dirtylove000 That drive is rated for 385 megabytes writes and 510 megabytes reads. What motherboard and processor do you have and who makes your system? Also, what antivirus and security software do you have on your machine?
my ssd got slower after this
@Uday Shelke how much space is free and what is the make and model of the SSD? What speeds are you seeing?
@@ShinyTechThings before the speeds are read:3000 write:2100 now i get read: 1600 write:1500 the free space is 132gb in C my laptop name is Asus tuf A15 and SSD is by Samsung
@@ShinyTechThings can i undo this
@Uday Shelke if you open up the task manager by holding down CTRL + SHIFT + ESC and under the performance tab and then select the drive it will give you the model number of the SSD. Also what is the full size of that SSD? There is also the possibility that the controller on the SSD is still executing the trim or other functions under the hood so if you leave it idling for an hour or so without use and then test it again are the results the same?
@@ShinyTechThings SAMSUNG MZVLQ512HBLU-00B00 And the size of ssd is 512GB yes after 3 hours working on very slow speed
wow it worked. I thought you were full of shit, but still decided to run the defrag since I had nothing to loose. My read speeds went from 3465.20 MB/s to 3505.86 MB/s and write from 3213.15 to 3345.01. Do you have any other suggestions that would make it go even faster. I bought a Firecuda 530 and it suppose to run at 7,000+ MB/s. Until now I could only get it to read at 3,465.20.
@Abel Billy Alvarez All my videos so far are legit except for the one on April fool's day but I announce that at the end. What motherboard make and model do you have?
@@ShinyTechThings Dell 0427JK. I contacted dell they sent a repair man to my house he replaced the mother board and took off. Didn't even mother to run any test on the Firecuda. After he left i ran the test and it was still slow. I then contacted Seagate and they could not figure out what was wrong with it so i just gave up on them.
@Abel Billy Alvarez Unfortunately that motherboard doesn't support Gen 4 NVMe from what I read here:
www.dell.com/community/XPS-Desktops/XPS-8940-not-supporting-PCIe-Gen-4/td-p/7971457
If it's new enough of a system you could return it and get a 12th gen that will hopefully support it but I will say many OEM's will cut corners here if you use model doesn't sell with gen 4 as an upgrade option.
@@ShinyTechThings that explains why it won't run at 7,000 mb/s. I can't believe the Dell and Seagate techs could not figure it out. Dell told me that the mother board was defective so they replaced it and then seagate said the SSD card was defective, but i knew that was not the case. Is it possible to add an adaptor to the mother board to increase the speed or do i need a mother board that will support PCIe Gen4.0 . Thanks for the help, I greatly appreciate it.
@Abel Billy Alvarez From what I read even if you got a pcie adapter the board would still run at the gen 3 speeds. How long ago did you buy this system? If you bought directly from Dell you could demand they exchange it since they misdiagnosed the issue past the return policy but I don't know how much effort it would take to force their hand. Otherwise you'd have to look at finding a motherboard that would fit your case that supports NVMe Gen 4 speeds.
DO NOT DEFRAG YOUR SSD!
@John07 I do go over this that it does reduce the lifespan of the drive however if you have any of the name brand drives like Western digital and Samsung that can show you how much lifespan is left you can see how much of a difference that it makes to the tbw or terabytes written to determine if you want to still defrag more than once to help increase the speed of the drive. On my current desktop I have been using the Western digital sn850 to do chia crypto mining and I plan on doing some videos to show how much that actually eats away at the lifespan of drive of a drive. I guess I could do the same with defrag and do a before and after with my drive and make a video on that as well.
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@RealDeepTH I haven't been able to figure out how to divide by zero yet either, but once I do I will be able to theoretically compress petabytes of data onto a three and a half inch 1.44 MB floppy disk 🤓😎
NEVER defrag a SSD!!!
@Darren Crawford if you are running a low quality drive that has low to no documented TBW for the drive then it's already a unreliable drive. This isn't something that I would do daily but rather as needed. Yes it decreases the lifespan but if your use case would yield 10-15+ years of lifespan but only keep it for 2-5 years I don't see the downside. And defrag /O will manually invoke TRIM so if you have a cheap drive that the drive controller isn't automatically running garbage collection and TRIM it can help. Lastly if your SSD is going to fail, it will fail. Defragging or not you should always have a backup of any system that's important.