VW Id.3 First Plus 58 kWh - RAnge, COnsumption, BEst speed Test
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So glad I saw this channel on passing..Love your reviews on these Electric cars ..so informative but fun
I took ID.3 for a test drive yesterday. We are currently sending email back and forth with the dealer trying to make the numbers match so we shall see if I'll be a happy VW owner some time in the near future. Thanks for all the inspiration and information to you Chris!
My ID.3 doesn't get delivered until January so I'm living through you here Chris, thank you for all your excellent videos!
when did you order and what country is it to be delivered. I ordered my ID3 + 30 September here in Norway, and I will get it tomorrow. I think it was fast.
@@jeeeeyah Ordered two weeks ago, production is scheduled for week 50, then people insist on time with the family instead of delivering cars 😉.... Delivery to Sweden.
I´m a simple man. I see a new Battery Life Video, I hit the like button, then I start watching... 🤷🏼♂️
...and I appreciate that very much. Thank you.
I'm a man of principle: I see a new Battery Life Video, watch the video and then hit the like button.
Thank you for your effort - my understanding of driving an eV is growing just in time for my ID.3.
I will get my id3+ tomorrow. can not wait, Hope the car copes with Norwegian winter.
Great video. Love these tests.
Seeing Tesla surveys and seeing ID.3 Surveys, I prefered the Tesla but now I think I would be ID.3 1st., choice. You have convinced me, almost
Bjorn Nyland took ID3, Tesla model 3P and Polestasr to Arctic cirlce for test and comparison between these three...
I like that you always seem to be so happy doing all these surveys with you're car. The toy is still new.
Well that, and the model is new. That attracts more viewers than any model that has been out for a while. It helps if you know your videos will be watched.
@@HenriZwols It also attracts new/more buyer groups since it starts considerably cheaper than Tesla - a (l)easing company has the ID.3 at 472 EUR per month with all insurances included while the Mod 3 SR+ is 708 EUR with the same company.
@@HenriZwols True.
I am looking forward to ID3 arrival in Australia.
Very informative.
Wow Chris, best speed if 102mph, sadly not many options in the USA for trying that out.
Not much worry on charger distance, you just drop the speed in last 1/3 or 1/4 of the trip if it's not looking good for at least 5%.
Thanks as always for the thorough test.
Your consumption test is ideal. It would be fantastic to see the comparable test in the ID3 when it is around 2 deg C and raining I.e. Heater wipers and low temp.
Had a test drive in one on Monday and very impressed. The only real issue for me was how flakey the software seemed to be. Hopefully they can get that sorted soon. I genuinely want to go for a Pro Performance Tech model at some point at the start of next year
The efficiency of ID3 at 12°C is pretty good.
Also his car has no heat pump, which would be beneficial at this temps for heating the cabin. With heat pump, you can probably get a bit more range when running air conditioning. It is available on most ID.3 models as option, and standard in some higher end models. On some 1st ones, it is not available, or depending on a day, it is an option or not ;D LOL
nice !
Interesting that the good aerodynamics of the ID-3 also give good stability at maximum speed. The same was also true of the first VW Golf GTi that came to England in early 1979 at 116 mph/190 kph. Good comfortability, JA ! 😀
I like a tiny bit of regen on motorways and much regen (preferably one-pedal-driving) in towns. I'm glad to have flippers.
Just saw how it auto brakes (to standstill) and accelerates in town at EV journey channel all by itself with the advanced ACC, so you hardly have to do anything with the pedals.
It is so counterintuitive (but real), that going 160km/h in ID.3 (and some other cars) is actually the best option for long distance traveling if you have access to 100kW DC charging. :) BTW. If you have only access to 50kW DC charging, then I would say 115km/h target on highway is the best option. Based on my calculations.
Nice video ...now even more looking forward for the E-Golf, it will be delivered in 2 weeks.
You think the consumption of id.3 is the drawback of the bigger batterie = weight?
Hi Chris - thanks for trying in D! How much elevation change is there on your regular route? I think the cruise control doesn't let you gain speed downhill, does it? Also, was it cooler air temperature on this than with other RACOBE tests?
Coasting is *road candy*! Traveling for "free" - is losing less energy than regen; because regen can't regain more than about 50% at best; and coasting uses more of the stored kinetic energy that regen does.
I need a BEV with a range of 400/450 real km. When the ID.3 with the 77 kWh battery arrives in Spain, then I will make a decision, buy the ID.3 77 kWh or the 2020 Kia e-Niro with the 64 kWh battery.
What is the real energy efficiency that you have achieved in the routes you have taken and in which driving mode have you performed this test?
Hi Chris, and thanks for you good job :-) Do your ID has heat pump in Deutchland?
Nope. Just the Max.
As said in other RUclips cannels:
The cw-value of ID.3 is better than the Kona, but the korean car is much more efficent on highway. The only reason for this is the drive train. There is much more potential on ID.3 if the motor becomes more efficent
Do the wheels have lower
rolling resistance?
They are? Another test from a german youtuber showed even slightly higher range in ID 3 than niro/kona, with slightly smaller battery... soc on koreans is not even close to linear:
ruclips.net/video/PdWF6jSz54w/видео.html&ab_channel=AndreasHaehnel
ruclips.net/video/-RNgN8PE918/видео.html&ab_channel=AndreasHaehnel
ruclips.net/video/iYTnnGcYjMs/видео.html&ab_channel=AndreasHaehnel
Also even Björn compares ID 3 with Tesla M3 in case of consumption, ofc not same, but close...
If Chris would have tested Kona and eniro in the same situation, they would have had 10% more consumption. Especially at 120 kmh and higher.
@@EinzigfreierName look at evcalc and some Tests of Andreas haehnel. And to know the real consumption you need to drive the car from 100 to 0% and not 70 km.
@@EinzigfreierNameI thought you were responding to my answer. But Bevormundung. Maybe we misunderstood each other. in the Test of Andreas haehnel Kona has a higher consumption. And according to evcalc also. The problem with only 5 km drive and than look at consumption because of heat. For example kona and eniro have 24-25 kWh consumption at First 50 km at Tests of Andreas haehnel. At the end they have only 22 kWh.
Good data and entertaining video 🙂. Does anyone have an idea what makes ID.3 less efficient than e-Golf? I mean, I know they use totally different body and components but would be interesting to know what might be the main cause.
I am guessing air resistance and the low temp on that day.
@@BatteryLife Oh, yes - the difference in temperature was big. Thanks for pointing that out.
Love your video as usual, no criticism here, but, should you not also record Humidity? affects drag a hell of a lot. I Jest not Squire, Google says so, so it must be true.
Thanks. The whole test is not extremely accurate. Just another factor of so many others.
Meine Frage doch beantwortet. Obwohl 150km/h wäre mir lieber.
44% 70km @160
Ca 160km bei 160km/h ?
Und was die Gesamtgeschwindigkeit angeht, deckt sich das mit Bjørns Berechnung zum 24h Rekord.
Sein kalkuliertes Optimum war glaube ich 170km/h beim M3
I'm confused in the tests I'm sure you said the temps and it ranged from about 15-12.5c yet the summary table at the end shows 7c. It would be interesting to run the three tests again when it's more optimum temp like with the Ioniq or Zoe tests in 20-25c to compare efficiency.
That will take a few months. June maybe
@@BatteryLife No rush obviously as its going into winter for you. Coming into summer down here, well spring technically right now.
Quick question ; so to drive a long distance in the ID-3 is it quicker to drive flat out and stop more often to re-charge or cruise at 110-125 kph and stop less often ?
Ah , at the very end you say 2 minutes quicker if you can find a charging point every 140km ? Not sure that you can in N.ireland/Ireland. Not so many fast charging points here.
But expensive. And chargers have to be close to eachother, so you can drive that speed from 5 to 65% SOC.
The new Mazda MX30, when are you going to review that, or have you no interest?
Emailed them, no answer.
@@BatteryLife Not very good customer relations.
Damn, the car is thirsty!
At that temp, most ev cars would be very thirsty.
Nice comparison, thank you! - can't wait for my ID3 Max to arrive - regarding B/D this guy did test that a bit more - ruclips.net/video/a9w22O0Rvgk/видео.html it seems the ACC is pretty smart ruclips.net/video/7NDMViFxHYo/видео.html
How did you calculate 395 km range at 90 km/h if consumption is 13.3?
I calculate with the percent use to drive 71km. Did I make a mistake?
@@BatteryLife If we look at 14:42 the calculated battery capacity is only 48.4 kWh which does not seem right, because when driving faster later it "rises" again, so this calculation might not show the facts. Teslabjoern had some 56 kW usable capacity in his test, so 48.4 kWh sounds way off and I feel any range calculation based on these numbers show the ID.3 in an undeserved bad light.
With a drive of only 71km this test can never be absolutely accurate.
But the car startet with 50%, drove 71km and arrived with 18%. So 32% for 71km = 100% for 222km.
Battery capacity is avg consumption multiplied the range with 100%. 222km times 218 Wh/km = 48,4 kWh.
The biggest error is not knowing the exact SOC (18%) after the drive. Was it 18,9% or 18,1%. That makes a big difference.
@@BatteryLife So you believe 48.4 kWh is actually correct und your battery has degraded severly after a few high speed loads with Ionity, so the range has now dropped from 287 km to only 222 km with 5 % more consumption as indicated due to lower temperature? 😱
I guess this kind of imprecise calculation made nextmove claim 649 km country roads range for Kona...
No, this is a calculated summary that cannot be too accurate.
My full range test in summer is way better.
280km with 3% left at 122 kmh avg speed
202 Wh/km avg consumption. 57,974 kWh calculated.
RACOBE?
Explained in the video ;)
Its surprising that a car specifically designed to be electric comes out worse than the egolf which is somewhat a compromise of a car being designed for ice before electric :(
It is not worse at all. It drives amazing!
@@BatteryLife sorry I meant battery efficiency from your test more than ride, handling etc
wow 9.71 € to make 100 km that's a lot
EVs are not that efficient anymore at high speeds.
@@BatteryLife I mean once in a while ionity charge is ok but they should do something about the charge cost
@@fghjfghgj I doubt it will be much cheaper than 29 Cent.
The only thing missing with all ev cars out there is Tesla auto pilot
7k for a beta test, thanks no thanks! Perhaps in 3 or 4 years.😅