Why the Empire isn't as dumb as you think | Star Wars Lore
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- Опубликовано: 17 дек 2018
- We take a close look at Star Wars evaluating just how dumb the Galactic Empire really was! New Empire at War episode: • The Battle of Mustfar ...
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I see where you're coming from Eck, but is the first order dumb?
@@Corvus__ Yes.
@@thedishonoredamerican129 I was asking Eck.
What if the venator crashed into the space station(valor station) in the clone wars season 5
"Sheev and the bois"
Cracking open a cold one with Sheev and the bois
Sounds like a great band name.
@Robert Ortiz-Wilson me too
Some Imperial Officer: Excellence, the rebel fleet has dropped out of lightspeed just outside of the shield.
Sheev: Hold my beer.
That would be a fantastic t-shirt
*Sheev and The Boys*
The Imperial propaganda boy band we never knew we needed
underated comment
Sheevs A-Plenty -- "It's a Sith in a box, girl"
Reminds me of JD and the Straight Shot (JD is terrible)
The Palpa Teens
In the end they went "Bye Bye Bye".
Petition to rename the Empire "Sheev and the Bois"
@@DZ-1987 How about "The Imperium of Sheev and the Bois"
@@ZackarySchejbalCODBO2RGM2 you can ignore me entirely.
In fact, you can delete thr reply entirely, for i will do the same.
God knows what i was thinking 3 years ago...
What happened?
"All they needed was for Palpatine to survive..."
OH BOY.
That aged well
I had to check the date to see if he knew...maybe he did...
If you’re alive, why not regain the throne? You did lose Vader and the Death Star, but you have thousands of not millions of Star Destroyers. The Empire had been crippled by the war, but there’s no reason they couldn’t win.
@@julian5699
I mean...Sidious must have seen that both Death Stars blew up. By the time he had cloned himself a new body, I doubt that the Empire would still be viable as a source of power.
Not trying to defend the Death Stick tripout that is Disney’s universe, but let’s laugh for the right reasons.
@@julian5699 But it wasn't crippled by the war. By Disney canon The emperor essentially ordered the imperial forces to destroy themselves because he was angry he was dead..... except now he's not dead. Disney Star Wars is a mess.
The Empire didn't commit to the Tarkin Doctrine right. They designed based on it, but then they didn't use those designs optimally. The system of "Iron fist in velvet glove" would have suited them well, but too often they refused to use the iron fist where it should have been, and overused it other places when a softer touch would have served their ends better.
Example: The Death Star should have been used thus: Escorted by a large blockading fleet and several Interdictors, it would arrive at a planet, the fleet would blockade it, and an ultimatum would be delivered: "We know there are rebels and insurrectionists here. To those of you who wish to prove your loyalty to the Empire, you have one week to bring all of them to us. If you refuse, or if you refuse to submit to the Empire, we will be forced to destroy this planet and end this threat to the safety of Imperial citizens throughout the galaxy."
Then, either the prison ship is filled up with rebels turned in by their own neighbors who care more about their friends and family surviving than about politics, or not enough rebels are handed over, and the planet is destroyed. If the planet complies, but one or two cities refuse, a low-power blast sufficient to atomize the offending city alone will suffice. The climate consequences of the bombardment will be a warning to the other population centers to heed the word of the Empire. Don't make threats, make promises. Use the people's own fear and desperation to turn them against the Rebels, whose presence threatens them all. When wielded properly, that fear would make worlds police themselves. Used clumsily, it only causes more uprisings.
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With regards to the soft power or 'velvet glove' that the Empire seems to have neglected, even as an autocracy they needed to build a reputation of being stern but fair if they were to gain real loyalty throughout the galaxy. Instead they ended up casting themselves as draconian and vindictive, responding with overwhelming measures when they weren't called for.
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The problem was, basically, they needed to appear unassailable while remaining aware of (and protecting against) the flaws and weaknesses present. Instead the commanding officers began to actually *believe* that Imperial power was impervious and scoff at flaws or weaknesses, and that headstrong behavior cost them the war.
Agreed. It's a world-changing event to have an artificial moon capable of vaporizing your entire planet show up in orbit and make demands, and it should feel that way. Since the DS-1 was so expensive and resource-intensive that it could only ever be a "crown jewel of the fleet" sort of limited-run design, its deployment would be reserved for situations where the planetary governor was either questionable or had already defied Imperial rule.
Why a career politician, no matter how ruthless, was put in charge of such a military project, I fear I will never understand.
@Joseph Sosa Precisely. It's not enough to destroy the defiant, one must also reward the subservient. Best of all, if one can arrange it so that the reward is subtle and broad, they associate it with the whole of the Empire, not just with the superior who granted it. That builds loyalty to the Empire itself, not just to a commander or a governor.
@Joseph Sosa Not only that, but if you have to pick one (and decide to opt for "be feared" as Machiavelli recommended in that instance), the important thing is to avoid being _hated._ Both Palpatine and Tarkin seem to have forgotten this, and decided to just lash out at the first provocation to prove their point.
It's not terribly complicated to be feared but not hated, even though it might sound like it on the surface; building a reputation for being tough but fair is all you really need to do. By way of example, a number of New Republic worlds decided enough was enough, and went so far as to join the Imperial Remnant during the Caamas Document crisis in Legends for exactly this reason. The Empire might be unyielding, but it was demonstrably a more stable guardian of law and order than either the corrupt and arthritic Old Republic, or the free-for-all of the New Republic.
Well, Tarkin himself is an idiot so...
@@tba113 "Why a career politician, no matter how ruthless, was put in charge of such a military project, I fear I will never understand."
This is a common flaw throughout history. Military victories are a powerful political tool both for those in charge and the generals themselves. Marcus Licinius Crassus had a fair amount of military experience, but the campaign that got him killed was an attempt to match the victories of his political rivals. The first man put in charge of the Army of the Potomac, Irvin McDowell, was a career officer with close ties to the top military leaders and politicians of the time. He had no field experience and was totally unsuited to lead an army in battle. Politics can't be divorced from military decision making, because military force is a political tool.
Not to worry, Eckhart, you can never be too hard on Sheev and the boys. They don't listen anyway. Believe me, I've tried.
#ThrawnGang
Hahaha...
You should've been the leader of the Empire
>Sheev and the boys
Dibs on that band name
@@zephsuki
"The Thrawng (throng)"?
The psychological strength of the Death Star is undeniable. We see in Rogue One how even the possibility of its existence almost broke the rebellion.
And yet it was deployed against a world that even Tarkin himself admitted was not a military target shattering any illusion of a just empire then was destroyed proving that the empire was not invincible.
Travis Smith Yeah Tarkin seriously mismanaged the Death Star.
@@filipstellberg8280 tarkin's mismangment not only destoryed the deathstar it destroyed the empire
@@ThunderClawShocktrix And the death star was almost flawless, the rebellion just exploited the only weakness.
@@mariairlete6754 they shouldn't have taken her dad to design it, they should of taken somebody else.
the general public doesn't know the tie fighter is made out of 'cardboard' , they think it's a very good starfighter. So for them seeing 20 tie fighters flying over is more intimidating than 5 actual great starfighters. it's also cheaper to make considering the empire never intended to go into battle
When I think about it now, I would have rather the Emperor melt down the DS II and create a new line of SD that could have the speed of an attack frigates and the the firepower/size of an Allegiance-class Battlecruiser.
@@GAJake true
@@GAJake That sounds both unnecessary and untrue.
@@GAJake
Most USA conservatives are also NRA-loving gun fanatics. Not that they really fear their neighbors or criminals or whoever, but they subscribe to the idea that an armed populace will keep the government in check if gets too radical (right or left, either way could be a threat to the USA now). They think that handguns and rifles will keep them safe from the US military if it ever comes to that type of situation. They have no clue what the US Army, Navy, Marines and Air Force would do to them if they rebelled or how fast they would lose.
My goodness, this conversation got off track. For the record, there are a ton of different scenarios in which a civilian revolt can go down. You can have a small, localized revolt, but if the numbers are comparable to the Revolutionary War and 5% of the people took up armed rebellion, things would be very different. Plus you need to factor in what the situation was leading up to the revolution, what would the economic and political effects of any given rebellion would be, how morale is on both sides, the ideologies involved, what foreign powers might intervene to help or distract the government, and so forth. There's no one single way in which such a rebellion goes down. I've talked with many military people about this, though, and the general consensus among them is that if an armed rebellion rose with more capital than the military, they would be able to resist a tyrannical government.
I'm pretty sure the competitiveness between grand moths was on purpose.
If they're fighting each other, they have no time to fight the emperor.
The Ming the merciless tactic.
That’s exactly what hitler did with his generals
You meant to say Grand "Moffs", not moths. Moths are attracted to the light, Moffs are attracted to the dark side.
@@jeffreymackay4343 fuckin nice
But you were the one who told me they were dumb
oops
@@EckhartsLadder BUSTED!
That'll teach ya to believe every schmuck with a fancy RUclips channel!
I thought this was going to be about their decision to leave the DS2 unfinished was a brilliant move to lull the Rebels into a false sense of victory and a trap, it worked really well until the shield was down and Lando blew it up.
EckhartsLadder you have become the very thing you swore to destroy
the emperor's end goal was actually to have a single galaxy-spanning moment where every simultaneously cracked open a cold one with the boi's
Well, if you were in Vader's position, you gotta separate the chaff from the wheat somehow.
*Force-choking intensifies*
Remember that even though Palpatine declared himself Emperor at the end of the Clone Wars, the Senate was kept around and had at least some power and prestige to it. Leia was using her status as the Senator for Alderaan to get out of trouble (Vader's comment on "you weren't on any mercy mission this time") and when Tarkin tells his command staff on the Death Star that the Emperor has officially dissolved the Senate there is at first worry about how they will run the Empire without the Senate. So until the Death Star was operational there were some democratic vestiges kept around if only as window dressing for the various member worlds. Of course once Alderaan is destroyed the mask is gone and anyone that was fooling themselves into thinking that things weren't so bad now had their noses rubbed in the truth. And then the Death Star is destroyed and everyone realizes how precarious the Empire's house of cards is and the Rebellion starts to grow even larger...
David Transou true, but in Sheev’s mind even at the end of the Clone Wars _he was the Senate._
Timothy Dunlap *Senitt
Augustus kept the Senate around and had them do the day-to-day governing. Tbh if you want an example of a good transition from a republic to an empire, Augustus is the best example.
Then again, Sheev is no Augustus.
@@NesRuA Augustus was extremely clever. By the time he died not many people had even been alive when there was a Republic and all they would have remembered were the Civil Wars between Pompey and Caesar and the Marius/Sulla conflict. Augustus brought internal peace to the Roman Republic and so the people had no reason to complain.
Most so called Star Wars " FANS," never read Wookiepiedia or read any 1990's novels about Star Wars.
In Legends, the Founding of Star Wars novels.
Tattoonie farms had a bad habit of being raided by the native Sand People, Jabba's thugs , and Owen Larrs was know to be Real Good with a blaster. The open rumor on Tattoonie was Larrs finally got hit by the Sand People.
Alderaan was hit by a rogue comment .
In the novels after Return of the Jedi, most Imperials believed that the Death Stars was Rebel propaganda . No " Death Stars " were ever built to begin with.
That's cool and all but... What about the droid attack on the Wookies?!
Mike Carmona Take a Seat Young Skywalker
You are in this council, but we do not grant you the rank of master
For the love of Qui-Gon, can Ecks just make a video about the drokd attack on the wookies so we can link it as a response to these comments?
there was never a droid attack on the wookies........................................
(execute order 66)
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I realize the scale of things is hard to tell in space, but that Star Destroyer needs to move further out of the way of the flagship. No reason to buzz the tower.
It is probably Needa's Star Destroyer. Vader was glad when Needa finally gave him a reason to execute him.
You have to wonder why Grand Moffs still bother with competing with each other. I mean, they are already as high in rank as they can get. So, why bother?
You want to be the number one Grand Moff, and what better way than getting your competition kicked for corruption, incompetence etc and replaced by someone you have a hold on?
Because simply having the authority granted by the rank of "Grand Moff" isn't enough. You ALWAYS need more.
There is always room to go up. The more the Emperor favors you, the more prestigious projects you get. And that is just what you control directly. There are also the indirect control. Either by putting your friends and family into important positions or by having people in important positions owe you favors.
I could see a lot of reasons. More favors, fame, money, interest groups, influence, etc. It could also be a result of old political rivalries like Tarkin vs Krennic. In our universe we see politicians of the highest ranks still trying to destroy each other even when it's not necessary.
The problem with the Tarkin Doctrine is that fear is not able to be maintained easily. It is why horror movies and games lose the fear factor over the runtime of the media. You get stuck in a loop of having to go bigger and scarier every "episode" and even then you have to focus on more brute force over time.
One of the problems with eliminating the Senate , meant a vacume of legitimacy of who the next leader should be. Had the Empire kept the Imperial Senate gatherings. A real next Emporer would have risen . He may have been not force sensitive , or perhaps even a mere puppet of Vader behind the scenes. This would have guaranteed a line a succession , and kept a much more stable galactic government.
Vader: The Emperor is dead. I am your new Emperor. Wanna fight about it?
Everyone : Newp.
The reason being Palpatine never intended to die. His ultimate goal was to achieve Immortality and live eternally as the Emperor, thud having no need for a successor.
@@pancakes8670 If the Senate was allowed to exist, just getting rid of the troublesome elements, it could have kept more stability throughout the Empire. Even the joint chiefs in A New Hope believed that without the senate order couldn't be maintained. Have the Senate as the carrot, with the Death Star as the stick.
@@jackschuller6684 do you know the history between emperors and senators? It’s not a good one. Roman emperors will tell you that much. There was no way they could have maintained control in the long run, but they probably would have done a ton of damage to the galaxy had they not been taken out of power sooner.
The main issue of Palpatine's Empire was due to the fact he had no care for how the people would achieve their ranks as long as they would bring results. A Moff could easily have thousand of emperial soldiers lives sacrificed over a pointless assault in order the achieve a victory, Palpatine would still reward the victory rather than berate them for their reckless act for the sake of a promotion and better standing. Another point which was made in this video is the lack of line of succession, Palpatine was too arrogant to believe he could die and thus didn't set up a clear line of succession should he die which would have prevented a massive power vaccum that caused the empire to fracture in multiple factions with only a few actually wanting to restore the Empire as it was.
The other issue is the focus on fear alone to keep the people in line, fear is a powerful emotion and powerful deterrent but only lasts so long, eventually people aren't afraid anymore, especially when you consider how aliens were treated under imperial rules, an enemy who has nothing to lose is an extremely dangerous enemy. allowing the xenophobic nature of humans was also a huge undoing on him, had aliens been accepted just as well as any other humans, many worlds wouldn't see any reason to join the rebellion ensuring that the Rebellion itself would only remain a small faction and remain branded as nothing more than a terrorist group seeking to overthrow the Empire over petty reasons.
So no, it wasn't the fault of the empire itself, it was how Palpatine built the chain of command and how one could rise above their station not through merit but through trickery and betrayal, which doesn't make for a strong empire but a flimsy and fractured empire. Everyone pulls in different direction rather than aim for a common goal.
Takedrugskillabear I’m only speculating here, but I’d assume that if Palpatine, or anyone else, had any kind of successor in mind, it would be Darth Vader. Of course we all know how that turned out...
Nailed it. The Imperial Civil War was proof of that weakness. You get incompetent Moffs or Warlords that are too power-hungry to not have a common goal in destroying the Rebellion. The Empire's system of government and chain of command is set to fail because Palpatine never considered to have anyone to replace him and the Empire - as a whole -was meant to be an extension of himself.
It took Gilad Pelleaon to become a head of state to hold The Empire together when many warlords and moffs failed.
Well he ha clones but that prob isn't canon anymore
Wtf..Darth Sidiuos was in power..everyone was too scared the crap to even think of a succesor
I think it's less that he thought he couldn't be killed, and more that he didn't care what happened to the Empire after he was gone.
"So, it's true. The Empire doesn't have an unending string of Star Destroyers"
_The Rise of Skywalker enters the chat_
It seems that the Empire's biggest failings were in the details rather than the big picture. Things like a lack of PD on capital ships, using cardboard fighters, ignoring the rim in favor of the core is bad, and the fact that Humans are outnumbered by aliens so its best to include at least some of them in government. It would have helped immensely if the Empire had had something that they could prop up as a threat the all of the Empire's citizens (like the Vong) to foster unity, but I won't hold it against them since no such threat existed at the time.
Also it would have been good to have an FBI type agency to handle things that go between Oversectors.
@@adambielen8996 and there were such agencies. While you can't name ISB as FBI equivalent (rather NKVD or Gestapo), it had some functions of FBI
@@Jfk2Mr fair enough, although secret police tend to look for political crimes rather than actual one so having both would probably be best.
Well yes. See ww2 Germany and Japan for reference.
@@adambielen8996 no in Eastern Europe the secret police looked for anything that might undermine the state, even running civilians as informers to inform on friends and family. Look up the stasi, they even monitored their own officers when they were monitoring civilians.
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Watch it at 2x speed. You get the into faster and it sounds hilarious.
On the Grand Moffs and their internal power struggle, you mentioned it would be better if they'd fixed that dynamic and made it less competitive - but keeping them squabbling is an intentional and common tactic. If they were organized enough, that's when you get internal insurrections against the emperor from an organized force of underlings. Better to keep them fighting among themselves.
You;ll never convince me the Empire aren't dumb when Clone Trooper armour could take blaster hits and Empire armour can't protect it's users from fluffy teddy bears with rocks.
"Why the Empire isn't as dumb as you think"
Wait, you mean they're even dumber?
"Sheev and the boys" you already got me
eck: lego...
me: starts purring
my dog: gets hyper thinking that there is a cat in the room.
cringe bro, are you a furry or something?
Always know that the Emperor knows what's best for you .
Never believe that you know better , than Emperor Palpatine .
Just obey and things will be ok , remember......... He brought you peace.
Now where did I hear this before? That's right.
Gooooooooooooood
"Sheev and the Boys": someone want to form a death metal band with me?
Okay but, what about the first order? Are they dumb? I think so, but what's your opinion?
Really dumb, because they pretty much do what the empire did.....only worse.
It depends. It seems like they would have to have acted very competently before the sequels just to get into the position they are in. Then they just absolutely shit the bed once the movies started (this is due much more to bad writing than anything else)
No. They are written incompetently. A fallen empire wouldn't value PD? Especially when multiples Death Stars die to single ships.. Suddenly light speed is a weapon no one ever thought of
He won't answer, because that'd force him to honestly acknowledge the flaws in the new movies, which is a no-go for Eck.
Of course they're idiots.
As odstarmor557 said, they're doing the same thing the empire did but worse. And by worse i think he mean's making already unnecessarily large ships larger.
The empire: We have a moon that can blow up planets in low orbit!
The first order: We have a planet that can blow up MULTIPLE planets several billion lightyears away.
The empire: Our star destroyers are the backbone of our fleet!
The first order: Same thing but BIGGER oh, and our tie fighters are black. Nothing new, they're just black.
I need to keep the Tarkin Doctrine in the forefront of my mind whenever I'm watching The Force Awakens. It was easy to wonder why the First Order was attempting the Fatally-Flawed Superweapon approach for a third time, but as you point out, it's not the dumbest thing in the world to build something that can intimidate the whole galaxy into submission. It's kind of a necessity if you want to suddenly surge out of the shadows to galactic domination in one swift move. Anything less and the New Republic probably would have gotten wise in time to stop whatever was happening.
Add to that the facts of the destruction of the New Republic fleet and its seat of government, and it was a pretty shrewd move to build Starkiller. I guess it was just tricky to try and process that thought in the theaters when you're also trying to keep up with what's going on on screen.
@9:00 “I could have been your daddy” message appears.
Me: ...... lol
I think you also forgot the economic benefits of the Death Star. Wouldn’t it be capable of clearing new hyper-space lanes?
Ok why I love the Death Star design. Well for me the super laser is a secondary benefit, but it’s a mobile invasion platform that can in theory defend itself from entire armadas by itself. But for me the station would best fit the role to move around the empire to conflict zone to serve as a mobile command base, troop transport, supply depot, weapons manufacturing, fighter and bomber carrier, etc. it’s the size of a small continent there’s literally no end to what it can do as both a star ship, star base, and FOB.
“Sheev and the bois”
Long live the Canadian Empire.
Rknee Gordon But do we have enough maple syrup?
Rknee Gordon and if we conquered the world the first thing we would force on everyone is free healthcare
@@kkhagerty6315 if Rather not wait weeks for a check up
@@kkhagerty6315 but america and italy have joined forces and are invading canada
@@lukeskywalker4459 Trucking into Ottawa
Starting up my suggestions again, here and the Discord.
A) Harrower class Dreadnaught vs Victory class Star Destroyer
B) Personal shield technology compared Dune Halo Mass Effect and Star Wars
Counter reset to 1. Good luck on all suggestions, may the Force be with you.
the rebels: we are the good guys
also the rebels: *blows up two superweapons that mostly consisted of innocents*
Yes, they are the true evil ones to my glorious empire.
I think in rogue one, we get a glimpse as to some of the reasoning behind the Death Star. It's shown the laser's power can be dialed back enough to destroy major targets without destroying the planet, and the rebels seriously consider surrendering upon discovering it. It was essentially meant to be a symbol of imperial might, and what happens to those who step out of line.
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This is why you’re here
It's funny when you think about the fact that the Empire is oriented toward the Core but the three most powerful people were from the Outer Rim. Palpatine was from Naboo, Vader was from Tatooine, and Tarkin whose homeworld I honestly don't remember the name of.
I'm 10 months late but I beleive it's Eriadu
Joseph Stalin was Georgian not Russian as an example
Loved the new message alert from Mitth'raw'nuruodo while you talked about the Tarkin doctrine.
It was the emperor overconfidence and ego that made the empire lose. Great video and lore.
#askeck Covenant CAS Assault Carrier vs First Order Resurgent Class Star Destroyer
(13th try, like so eck can see)
SW vs. any other universe is always super unfair. Lucas and Disney have never included tactics at all and their military decisions are beyond nonsensical.
Still liked for ya.
@@uglyweirdo1389 idk abt that
“SHEEV and the bois”
Have anyone noticed the empire never included aliens? The Jedi order had clones and and different species. The sith had Robots and and different spices. The rebels had different species. The empire has clones in the begging but later on what are storm troopers? Based on new movies they kind of hint at storm troopers being different individuals but it kind of make you wonder if Fin is a clone and all the storm troopers look like him. Based on the cartoons clones are not mind less beings. Rex from the star wars cartoon was a clone with personality. What if the story about Fin being taken from his parents is a memory implanted in to clones by the people that made the first clones. Fin is just and name he created from his code name. The code name is just easy way to keep track of thousands of look alike's.
The empire for some reason pushed for human supremacy. They were pretty brutal to other species.
@@shariqhasan6220 They supported It because remember the Empire was formed from the Republic so that meant It pretty much inherited the human supremacy thing AND that the Core Worlds ,mainly populated by humans were the biggest supporters of the Empire.
@@ufukcangencoglu2279 yeah that's what I meant.
Imperial Rome managed the states or other groups on its frontiers largely with the threat of retaliation. The legions certainly could move around and deliver that - to several at a time. When they faced continual pressure from _enough_ periphery threats, it was too much. It's a similar instance of needing to rely on the threat of violence when you don't have enough violence to serve every potential customer at a time.
kudos for knowing what subsidiarity is, very important concept
Best Mass Production mechs:
UN Spacey( SDF Macross)
Earth Federation( UC Gundam)
The Clans( Battletech)
Terran Dominion( StarCraft).
HMPS (DZ Imperium)
"Waz that?" you may ask. Well, it stands for H.uman M.ech P.ower S.uit.
Basically, imagine those jeager's from pacific rim, but more stylish (for lack of a better word that i can come up with in a short period of time i.e, 3 seconds) and efficient. One man, one weapon, easy to mass produce and you if you're already a professional soldier, swordsman or boxer, you can use one of these just fine. That's the plan anyway, once i can make it work in my novel.
They sure had enough military to find the rebels over & over again! Great video! 👍☯️👍
if only this was uploaded on thanksgiving, the chaos that would follow would be immense
I want ‘Sheev and the Boys’ on a shirt with a design of a generic boy band with Palpatine as lead, with Tarkin and Thrawn as support.
Full-battle-breakdown of the Battle of Yuuzhan'tar.
One-hundred-thirty-five
I love your outro :)
Your avatar is adorable, im imagining darth vader telling the shibe hes a good boi and hes proud of him
Basically, he Empire exists for one purpose and one purpose only: to serve Palpatine, first in his revenge against the Jedi, and then to rule the galaxy. Once he was dead it immediately descends into chaos.
This is, incidentally, why I find rabid Empire fanboys obnoxious.
Devin Faux
I find anyone who is a fan of a literal caricature of nazism untrustworthy.
Jack Sprack weird cause most of the time I usually find rebel/resistance fans acting like douches or authoritarian like despite being a fan of the rebels/resistance. I mean for crying out loud this is a fictional universe that isn’t real and shouldn’t be taken seriously in any way regardless of what it’s based on.
If you look for excuses to attack people for having different viewpoints or for being fans of characters/factions that aren’t the same as yours then sorry but you’re no different than the real life equivalents of Nazis/facists/communists etc, plain and simple.
Gabriel Tejada
I think that if someone gets all giddy about an authoritarian regime of masked, goose-stepping soldiers that oppress people in the name of a dictator, it says something about them.
Jack Sprack ironic considering most of the imperial fans that I’ve met were genuinely nice and down to earth people while rebel/resistance fans tend to be the opposite. The moment you disagree with them it suddenly becomes a fight or they resort to personal attacks and THAT says a lot about them.
Joker is one of my favorite characters of all time right next to Deadpool but does that mean I’m gonna do what they did especially what the Joker does? Hell no, not because it’s wrong and crazy but also unlike you guys I actually know how to separate reality from fiction and I don’t allow it to influence me like some new born child that can be molded into anything.
Reality and fiction are two completely different worlds regardless of what the fictional ones are inspired by, I wish more Star Wars fans specifically the crazy rebel fans would stop treating their fellow fans (regardless of their faction preference) like little children that need to be guided because they can’t think for themselves, most of us are fully grown adults who can understand the difference between right and wrong as well as separate reality from fiction but yet you guys can’t seem to grasp that concept which is sad.
Gabriel Tejada
I’ll admit there are really cool people who like the empire, but there are also fans of the empire who cant separate fiction from reality either.
Keep it up
My impression is that certain Imperial equipment is actually very, very good at doing what its supposed to do- the Executor class or TIE interceptors for example. And it took a massive amount of plot armor for the rebels to win. Even the humble stormtrooper is supposed to be elite infantry, yet in the films they were hardly more than comic relief.
Good video eck
Replicators vs a Unified Star Wars universe (406th try now, *_I._** WILL NEEEEVER EEEVER GIVE UP!!!)*
I cannot begin to comprehend why Eckhart did not do this one,
Does anyone here think the empire made Sithmas or Christmas a holiday in the Star Wars galaxy or universe?
Now I do
Merry Sithmass from Korriban
What's Christmas? Some earthling version of Life Day?
The Empire had one holiday. Empire day. And it was mandatory to attend.
@@NightRaven-lh1bf I was just trying to lighten the mood :v
He pretty much explained how modern society is structured. Well done!
Your points raised here are why, despite it being unpopular among Star Wars fans, the Dark Empire trilogy is my favorite Legends work. One of the Emperor’s first actions was to attack Mon Calamari (the source of the Rebellion’s strongest capital ships and its best Admiral) with the World Devastators, super-weapons that made much more tactical sense than the Death Star (turning the vacuumed debris of enemy planets into military material).
Even if you think the Empire needed superweapons, the Death Star was still a waste of resources. You don't need to disintegrate a planet to wreck it, just slagging the crust would be sufficient (and just as horrible). I admit Starkiller base would have been very efficient as a terror weapon (although giving it to the First Order in ep.7 was ridiculous and a tired rehash of ep.4 IMO).
They could recoup quite a lot of resources by mining the remains of the vapourised planet. One could imagine that after a while the Imperial economy could end up becoming dependent on the resources gained by blowing up planets, resulting in them secretly implementing a quota a planets to be destroyed each year in order to avoid economic collapse.
There's a theory that the Death Star was actually meant to combat the Vong, hence why they were building multiples of the DS, and more spheres were under construction elsewhere. It was just built under the guise that it was FOR the Rebels. Sure, the Vong was introduced after the movies, but it gives a nice other theory instead of an insane superweapon built for just rebels.
given the megaton-range yields occasionally cited for turbolaser shots, I'd be surprised if the Death Star couldn't slag a planet with its turbolaser batteries alone.
#askeck Design a SSD, and what would it look like, its purpose, ect...?
I think he did that a few months ago
@@marsar1775 he did it with the ISD
Why do you want him to design a solid state drive? Kingston, Samsung and Toshiba aren't enough for you?
Put the goddamn bridge within the ship and not hanging out on a tower.
Love your Presentations as Usual!
In this One an Resurgent Star Destroyer passed by with an interesting side Profile? What Dose its Underside Look Liken in Full Detail?
Best
2:14 .. Dude that Tie Fighter cutscene had me cheesing so hard on nostalgia.
ODSTs vs N7 and UNSC Marines vs System Alliance Marines #AskEck
Halo wins for all of them
@@robbycarlson6133 You mean WH40k Space marines
Notification squad like it up
Useless, unarmed GR-75 transport reporting for battle.
Green leader standing by.
General Wolfman Reporting for duty
A-Wings forming up, watch those towers boys
@@newzealanddoesntexist7505 Heavy star bombers are arriving into the fight.
Awesome video!
Can't believe this came out two years ago
The Empire should have done something like 5,000 ISDs and 10,000 Venators (Since Venators cost 1/2 as much as ISDs). Then a fleet would carry enough starfighters to repel a band of rebels and it would also be a phycological weapon because the sheer number of TIEs could strike fear into the enemies of the Empire.
I think that does not include all the various craft needed to make it a carrier, same problem tie's are only worth while in superior numbers or against weaker opponents and you likely run into a scenario where having too many aircraft at one time is too inefficient. A lot of this could be dismissed as Lucas's lazy writing/not studying naval history.
#AskEck Could the Pokemon, Mewtwo be more powerful than or a least match Palpatine?
I very much agree on the second point, though I think a better workaround while trying to secure unity among the Grand Moffs and to help secure the power of the Emperor would be to establish an fleet under the direct command of the throne that can actually as a reserve or hunter killer force against opponents like the Alliance
“Only now, at the end do you understand.”
Sins of a solar empire rebellion titan battle royale or which titan is the best
The Ragnarov easily
Corey Micallef Ragnorav could easily lose in a battle royale due to its weak (comparatively) defense, even though it wins a 1v1 every time
So I have a theory. This is inspired by an actual scientific theory, which is that the laws of physics are different in other areas of the universe, or at least could be. I believe the hyperspace anomaly is (or again, at least could be) an example of this phenomenon, one where parts of the galaxy border I something similar to that. The Star Wars region of the universe has laws of physics that allow for interdimensional phasing or shifting for things like hyperspace travel and also create drag in space. The hyperspace anomaly is perhaps a region of space which does not allow for any travel faster than light in a vacuum, (although likely all or most other weird stare wars physics is still in play, people don't spontaneously combust upon entry because of different physics). this would both likely be natural, rather than created as everyone assumes it would be. I don't understand why something like this anomaly couldn't be natural, otherwise, why would it have gaps? Creating something like this, especially if it is a region with different physics, would be far more more impressive than anything else in the galaxy. Anyway, what do you all think of my idea?
P.S. I really love your videos, I am now a Star Wars supergeek thanks to you. your videos are really interesting and I think you usually do a great job analyzing and ranking in your galactic vs series.
I actually like the idea.
I would just imagine how explorers and such would react to this anomaly and attempt to try to beat it either with trying to develop new tech which allows some type of near FTL/FTL, though much more limited and slower than using hyperspace or using someone who is sensitive to the force if said person it can use it in the areas of anomaly.
(Unless there is a point where you went so far out the galaxy's influence force powers cease to work.)
@@NightRaven-lh1bfI didn't even know that a hyperdrive bomb is a thing, actually. Also, you're right about messing with hyperdrive (which is likely to land you in Otherspace if you mess up). I hadn't even considered that and it could possibly do the trick. The gaps are just evidence that it wasn't meant to be a barrier if it was in fact created. Honestly, to me, this makes more sense as a natural occurrence.
@@mill2712 The force wielder idea interesting, but I don't necessarily understand it. I will say it would take a lot of concentration to take your laws of physics somewhere that the laws of physics are different.
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What I am saying is that it when someone wishes to leave the main galaxy knowing the hyperspace oddity is there they could use force sensitive people to guide the way. Like the "Skywalkers" in the new canon book "Thrawn Alliances." (See StarWars Explained's channel for more clarity. It's a fairly recent vid so it shouldn't be too hard to find on his channel) or force sensitive guides such as the Jedi explorers in the legends book "Outbound Flight."
But my theory is the further you leave the host galaxy, the less in tune one is with the force. Go far enough and the force may only work with the beings and material you brought with you, you can only use the force internally, or even not at all.
I also believe hyperspace has something to do with the force as well and within the galaxy it allows for a very fast, precise and stable FTL travel. However the further from the galaxy you go the harder it is to use and the less distance you can cover. And if you go far enough from the host galaxy it becomes so inept, one can only travel a few times the speed of light at best, at worst you can only go lightspeed, maybe not even lightspeed or it becomes very unpredictable such as going distances too short or too far than what you wanted, you go to a different plain of existence (Legends had something called otherspace.), or it just loses it's stability and preciseness as if it were like "The Warp" like in Warhammer 40000. Minus the chaos 'deamons' (Or not.)
Also all hyperdrive capable machines have a navigational computer or astro-mech that allows for precise travel through hyperspace. Because the intergalactic void is uncharted and mostly empty excluding objects formed outside of/ejected from the galaxy at large, if you wanted to make a jump (If jumps are possible.) you would have to calculate, scan and do small skips with periods of rest each and every time lest you hit something or get stuck in hyperspace/sent to another dimension.
I also have a theory that the force might have it's limits despite what Jedi and Sith might tell you. We don't know if it only works in their galaxy, the surrounding cluster/supercluster of galaxies that are near by the Star Wars galaxy, the force has a source outside of the galaxy/galaxies but affects all within the area or if the force only works when your in a galaxy. (Whether it's in the local area or across the universe is unknown. If across the universe or a large portion of it then the force isn't really that limited.)
@@mill2712 you've clearly given a lot of thought to hyperspace. Personally, all I know about Star wars legend is from this channel, I am more of a cannon person myself, as funding all those legends books at the library is difficult. I wasn't even aware that new cannon books had been made yet.
Yes!! Thank you sir Eckhart, for finally dissing those puny rebels.
What the heck? The empire is awesome (your work is amazing btw)
#AskEck
Could the Empire be able to Beat the Harvesters from the Independence Day Movies
Fuck yes
They got beat by a low level species. The empire would wreck them in less than an hour.
Pretty quickly. A planet working for you is more valuable than all of its base resources. Labor exists for reasons.
@@odstarmor557 They didn't defeat them, only forced them to retreat.
Do a Yuuzhan Vong invasion of Fluidic Space and war against Species 8472(the Undine)! 98th try.
I can only hope that this matchups video does better than mine,
Another great vid
"The Republic maintained peace by allowing voluntary membership"
Clones: exist
Best Androids
Cyberlife
Yorha
Skynet
Weyland yutani
Sky net isn't an android. I'm pretty sure its and Defense program that went rouge
@@r.cdahuman7682 SkyNet is what makes the androids, it's basically a patent,
Get rid of that Yorha and replace it with The Institute instantly,
Also, you should put the number of attempts so you can actually keep count of how many times you have done it,
Clearly it was the princess Leia android who married Sheev's son and then kill him with laser eyes.
You're vastly overthinking all of this. This is the franchise where 3 foot tall primitive Ewoks defeated a galactic Empire.
The Ewoks had the high ground, and they had plot armor.
Or just imagine how many tie defenders they could have made instead of the death star. That would have crushed the rebellion in short order
Not really. By most calculations you can make about 5000000 TIE Defenders which simply isn't enough to take care of every Rebellion out there.
@@ufukcangencoglu2279 that would be just about enough to replace the regular tie fighters on every ISD in the fleet. Imagine how much that would impact every space battle. Instead of crap fighters the empire would be fielding arguably the best in the galaxy. On top of having capital class ships with much more firepower than their opponents. The rebels wouldn't have stood a chance. The reason the death star is a waste of resources is that it can only exist in one place at a time. Those defenders could be all over. Granted there is still much to be said in favor of the D.S.
I thought you were going I explain how the massive exhaust port on the Death Star 2 was actually brilliant. The Death Star 1’s was actually pretty good just have 50 imperial royal guards (on fighters)guarding the port
Lots of those things you claim are dumb about the Empire isn't even correct.
All Star Destroys have Point Defenses, we see them use them in the movies.
Also Poe has a Stealthed X-Wing. That's why he is hardly every hit, that's why the AA guns on the Dreadnought in Ep8 didn't hit him.
All those saying it doesn't have stealth, because the ship locked on to him. The thing 8s, they never had a hard luck because of the stealth. That and he was broadcasting a signal.
It also flat out says its stealth in the ics books for Ep 7 and 8.
isd 1 had little bit of point defense, isd II had only heavy turbolasers, and heavy ion canon as an "upgrade"
But couldn't the First Order just run a "decloaking scan" like they did for those transports later in the movie therefore negating Poe's "stealth" capabilities? How is him "cloaking" any different from what those transports did?
@@wilkor-lc7ox We see them use Point Defenses in both SW ep 5 and 6. They are constantly hitting said things with those weapons.
We see them use a rapid fire flak mode in Blade Squadron and also anti fighter proton torpedoes.
In SWBF2EA we see a Imperial class also fire a flak more, and also The Rebel Inferno Squad takes out anti-fighter guns on a Imperial 2.
Let's put it another way. We see Imperial 2s hitting fighters with their guns, if turbos can't be anti-fighter weapons, would you really want to use something weaker if that thing is tanking turbo lasers?
@@wilkor-lc7ox Also you know in the lore Mon Cal ships have various kinds of pdw? Yet the newest book accidentally left them out, so are you gonna say Mon Cal ships don't either?
Those are first order not Imperial
Finally, now all we need is a video on why the Empire did very little wrong (Ranking below Grand Moffs)
Love your channel.
First
OT is my fav, so I periodically watch this to comprehend the Imps strategy.
#askeck I saw your video about fan ships in Star Wars and immediately thought about Halo when you described the Peltas Class. I’d like to see a Peltas Class go against an Autumn Class Cruiser in a vs match.
I challenge you to do this kind of video for the First Order. Now that would be a tough endeavor!
hi Eck Video Idea: what in if star wars rebels phoenix cell got there hands on an acclimator SD from an old republic base or something?
A problem is that lot of worlds started to feel like they only had two choices. A quick death in battle or a slow grinding one under the boot heel.
The emperor plans and machinations during the clone wars (when he was the senator) as a sith was good to be used when the republic was corrupt, at each others throats, and had a naivete about itself and what it thought it was when in reality it had so many holes in it just like the empire that the future emperor used. But in war it doesn't work as well as it should especially since your fighting an enemy that is mobile and not fighting the battle you want an out and out slug fest.
He should have kept pressure on them via the Moffs. He should have put out large bounties on information on the rebel alliance. He should have went after all the criminal organizations and put pressure on them and let them know that this pressure will decrease the more information we have on the rebels. Eventually all this pressure on all fronts they would have been outed and found out where their bases where. It's a numbers game, the more people you have out with eyes and ears looking and getting information the better the odds you have in always being one step ahead of them.
The whole "If every single system revolted they could overthrow the empire, but fear keeps each one in line" thing is exACTly the deal with unionisation and strikes the like.
Omg is that your pooch at the end? Soooooo cute. And dope music.