How the Empire lost almost 25,000 STAR DESTROYERS after Endor | Star Wars Legends
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- Опубликовано: 3 ноя 2019
- The Empire had a MASSIVE fleet made up of over 25,000 Star Destroyers, as well as a few dozen Super Star Destroyers, Dreadnoughts and Battlecruisers. What happened to all those ships after the Battle of Endor? How were they all lost? We'll discuss that and more on today's Star Wars Legends Lore video.
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They lost all of their Star Destroyers because they auto-resolved all of their battles in Empire at War.
never, never, never make that gamble
When remnants of a larger fleet in auto complete give you more losses than their fleet did to you in command
@@briangriffin9793 sometimes, somehow i loose like 3 ISD's to a lone battlestation with like 2 turbolasers and 1 lasercannon...
Plain Plane that’s most obvious. But that is true
"Ah it's just one spacestation, how bad can it be?" *Entire navy is destroyed*
Was kind of hoping the video would be like: “how did the Empire lose 25k Star destroyers? Because they forgot where they put them.” *outro music plays for 12 minutes*
That would’ve been funny
because we see the lost 24.800 ISD in the rise of skywalker .......
TheCommikaze literally happened with the Katana fleet!
Thrawn found them and they were the basis of his forces.
He should also put his Aviators on against an obnoxiously orange background
Flash back to the US t95 heavy tank program
If I remember the ludicrous size of the Star Destroyer refueling platforms, I imagine a good percentage of Star Destroyers simply couldn't be maintained after the the fracturing and losses to the Galactic Empire's logistics infrastructure.
Hence why they had to shift to the Turbulent class which was smaller and more flexible.
A number of Star Destroyers would have to be set aside for cannibalization of spare parts.
The attack on Bannister Station made it difficult for IMPERIAL NAVY to refuel its ships and launch full on attacks into the Outer Rim.
That was my takeaway as well.
In real life, they canned the concorde because it was far too expensive, despite the fact that it was the most technologically advanced passenger airplane in the world.
Considering that the Empire poured all their money and more into the construction of the two death stars, it would make sense that they pretty much ran out of resources to ever be able to hope to rebuild their fleet, should something horrible happen to them. It's like if you cashed in your 401k and emptied your bank account to buy a ferrari, only to have your house and all your possessions go up in flames the next day.
It's not entirely inconceivable that the construction of planet sized space stations would drain even an empire of galactic proportions. Even if they only put themselves in deficit for a couple decades, they basically ensured that any losses during that period are irreplaceable.
Star Destroyers have reactors don’t they? I can’t imagine they’d need refueling more than a once or twice if the reactor starts failing
Willing to bet that most of the ISD's were actually lost to not being able to maintain them. Booster Terrick had an immensely hard time maintaining his single one even without it being in combat a lot.
I absolutely agree, and as shipyards were lost, that had to affect not only the production of new ships, but the maintenance of old ones as well. I can't even imagine what the maintenance cycle of a Star Destroyer would be like. How often does the reactor need a refit? Does the hull ever need to be stripped and inspected due to cosmic radiation? How often do the shield projectors need to be replaced? There are probably thousands, if not millions, of components on a ship that size that require constant checking, replacing, and refit, just to make sure the ship can be combat ready. I wouldn't be surprised if for every one of those 200 ships that Pelleon had, there were three more that were stripped for parts to make sure they were able to function.
@@Shadowghost36 Especially with the new republic hounding them so much. It wouldn't suprise me that an iSB that actually survived a major battle with the New Republic would likely require significant hull reparis at least. Then of course you need the fuel and resources to effectively use the ISB's which , both in canon and legends, clearly states the Empire was in danger of running out of.
Sarah Huntsinger can you speak dumb for me? I didn't understand a word of that.
@@sirshotty7689 Basically, big ships can't just be repaired on the fly. You have to dock them somewhere and turn off major systems to repair/service them. So if the Empire is losing shipyards, they can't repair their ships. Thus ships don't have to be destroyed in order to be lost, they just need wear and tear to affect something vital that can't be fixed while floating in space.
Well it's not like they had a Pep Boys available
Before vid: It must take a supreme level of incompetence to lose that many ships.
After vid: It was a domino effect of many events.
I prefer domino effect to incompetence.
I prefer both. As the level of incompetence may have lost a lot of manpower. Then, after that. It was a domino effect.
@@Qardo yeah they were overconfident
Gerardo Reyes most rational and somewhat intelligent people couldn't see how a squadron of X-Wings and a few corvettes can rape a Star Destroyer but if you know your lore and how the Rebels operated then you would find out that a fractured and egotistical Empire never had a chance...
Josh eck must have done amazing work on this video to come to that result ! Great job eckhart's ladder
The High Ground eviscerated all 25,000
The high ground tends to do that.
Yeah... it was so high most the armada must've run aground
I heard they were sucked into several sand planets like Tattooine and Jakku. 😀
@@BennyLlama39 yeah damn Sarlaccs and Thresher Maws
Still can't win against Yoda. He defeated the high ground.
*Empire loses battle of Endor*
25,000 Star destroyers: Iight imma head out
The guy fading out meme.
That's our word "punches you and high fives another nerd herder"
That's our word "slaps you and high fives another nerf herder".
I'd rather runoff into space over being caught in a Lynch mob
36 or so destroyed they and like 20 the movies so
*24 944* star destroyer: Ight ima head out
I wish Disney went with the idea of the empire fracturing ing warlord factions. Seems way more interesting.
Matthew Schultz yes and sooo much more potential for different movies about the different factions
Codename1 1 that way they could've incorporated more Legends elements, characters, and events. But nah, they felt their ego would have been intimidated so decided to make their own timeline. A garbage one...
@@blackshogun272 yea, i get a better story experience out of empire at war
That sort of thing just doesn't work in a movie format, it's a huge limitation of the medium, where all the major factions and their relationships have to be shown within a two hour story.
@@silentdrew7636 they dont need to fully explore all the different factions and their relationships between each other all in one go, just ones relevant to the story. Think of it like a DC or marval movie; they dont tell you anything about all the countless other heroes and villains in one movie, but over the course of time you see the bigger picture. Maybe they could briefly mention something about other factions, but the best part as bout the warlords is the open ended possibilities they provide.
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Obviously they were all sent to exogol so that they could take part in a terrible plot battle
They also apparently stashed a lot of Star Destroyers in a Nebula near a ice asteroid.
casbott Nah. That is in the weird JJ alternate universe
Kelvin timeline.
Wich magically don't require crew or maintanence for several decades.
Kind of reminding me where the Empire kept a goddamn ISSD inside Coruscant without anyone noticing as an "emergency escape ship"
Can we get an F in chat for all those lost Dorito ships.
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Personally, I've never bought the 25,000 ISD number (not in Legends, and especially not in Canon) as it never seemed to jive with the Battle of Endor fleet size. Regardless, there is another major factor that chewed through the Empire's ISDs in both continuities: maintenance.
Imperial Star Destroyers are massive spaceships that take enormous resources to keep running. They need huge amounts of power, spare parts, hyperfuel, tibanna gas for turbolasers, support craft/TIEs, tens of thousands of people and food for those people. And, usually, you need credits to pay for all of that. The Empire built a massive infrastructure to develop these resources and distribute them among their ships, but when it was decapitated and fractured (either in Legends' warlord Balkanization or Canon's more leaderless chaos), the infrastructure network completely broke down. It's not just hyperfuel mines and shipyards rising up or falling into Rebel hands (though that happened plenty, with Kuat being an especially devastating loss), but the entire system of transporting the resources to the right ships at the right time was gone. The Empire's ability to collect taxes would also be badly damaged by the chaos, and so they are trying to keep all these ships running without anyone really in charge and with no money to pay for things. It's easy to imagine how tons and tons of Star Destroyers would begin breaking down, or run out of fuel or munitions, or be abandoned as supplies run out or their crews decide they just want to go home.
War is logistics, and logistics is leadership + communications + resources. A fractured state like the post-Endor Empire would have quite a difficult time uniting and fighting against a determine foe, especially with piles of unrest within their territory.
I said the same thing only less eloquently.
The Endor fleet was just Death Squadron.
All those, plus the death stars.
The Empire's absolute territorial dominance ensured that they never really suffered any real losses up to the point where the first one was destroyed. It's entirely plausible that their budget was stretched to its absolute limits by the construction and staffing and maintenance of the death stars, which ensured that regardless of whether the death stars or the star destroyers suffer any serious damage, it will at least take a while before they can rebuild. "Too big to fail" is a phrase that comes to mind.
Simply put: they did not take into account the possibility that someone will blow up their shiny new toy, so they put all their eggs in one basket.
Had the Empire not attempted to construct the death stars, their massive, well-funded fleet could have dominated the galaxy for a lot longer.
What brought them down was hubris, stupidity and out of control military expenditures with no real goals in sight.
"Park this in a solar system and they'll pay" applies to a couple of star destroyers just as well as it does to the Death Star, except they're probably cheaper to move around.
There's no internally consistent explanation for the building of the Death Star that isn't absolutely retarded. If we're lenient and say it cost as much as 100 star destroyers, it'd still make more sense to build 100 of those instead.
They might not be capable of blowing up planets, but I don't think anyone would like being blockaded and orbitally bombarded by them for a year or two.
@@evanharrison4054 I think the DS-1's additional flaw was that it was built to kill morale and as a weapon of fear, it was a calculated risk, if it wasn't destroyed and with periodic fabricated tales of it crushing rebellions across the galaxy, it'd have been a powerful weapon of terror and fear.
The issue arose after it went public in the destruction of Alderaan, and then it's destruction by the rebellion, subsequent Rebel propoganda following, likely shattered all fear it had sown and given an equal reputation to the rebellion, and uproar over Alderaan's destruction by the empire (with a weapon that was now gone and no longer to be feared)
You underestimate the size and militarization of the galactic empire
They couldn’t afford to make the payments. They were repossessed.
By who? Space IRS? The InterGalactic Banking Clan?
What if Palpatine woke up one day and just had a heart-attack then died?
impossible since he had no heart
Nitpicking Nerd Palpatine had Mesothelioma
He had sepsis. Blood poisoning then. Hmmmm. Quite interesting.
Vader, would have taken over.
Thats a ouch in my books chief
Look up what happens to US equipment when we leave the Region.
Yes, this is a Real-Life phenomenon.
especially Toyota Hiluxes
You dont even need to leave the region, US equipment ends up in terrorist hands straight from the factory
@@if1259 5 rubles for you comrade
They got started with some US tech and lots of Russian junk. Now they’ve got US stuff and probably Russian, Chinese, and locally manufactured AKs
cheaper to leave equipment behind than to ship them back.
Should have used Amazon Prime.
A considerable number of Star Destroyers had to have been lost already by the time Thrawn emerged from the Unknown Regions because he had a hard time collecting sufficient ships for his fleet. Much of what was left after his death were most likely lost in either Operation Shadow Hand or the Imperial Civil War.
Most ships were left to protect existing territories in thrawn”s campaign, not so for operation shadowhand
I personally love this part of Star Wars, we get to see greedy, power hungry Moffs. But then we see some Moffs actually protect their own sectors.
I love how Palpatine was ultimately one of the if not the biggest supporter of the rebellion. Had he made the empire with even a little bit of unity and maybe a successor then the Alliance would have been screwed.
But under Sith rules having a line of successors means having a line of people who advance by the defeat of those above them. And having local powers loyal to the Emperor personally, with little unity among themselves otherwise, is a means for a tyrant to maintain control. It insures that no alliance develops within the Empire favoring a different leadership.
@@hanelyp1 The answer is simple then, a non-force sensitive should be his successor.
Wow that’s a lot of duristeel wasted
ITZ ADAM could've made a Star Forge or two with that much ore 😩
Still probably not as bad as the two Death Stars.
Durasteel*
Mostly by throwing them at each other like they were trying to produce fission reactions.
Sounds like something GrayStillPlays would do. 😀
I feel like the Thrawn trilogy describes the loss the best. How the Emporor had control over his forces and stuff. Without coordination, a fleet would fall insanely fast. But that's still a HUGE amount of ships lost.
oof
To the point that each SD was a precious resource. Gil was really uncomfortable having them all in the same place at one point. That trilogy felt a lot more real than the nonsense we got .
@@razorburn645 agreed
Perhaps it's not canon but I wonder if the Emperor used some form of Battle Meditation to coordinate the fleet, something sorely lack after his demise...
That was the suggestion of the Thrawn Trilogy. After Palpatine died the fleet lost cohesion.
Between that and having lost most of its fighters in the initial attack on the Rebel fleet, the Navy had a BAD TIME.
And then once infighting starts, the Alliance could pick its battles. And given ISDs are Battlecruiser equivalents, meant for fast, overwhelming strikes; they're going to have a bad time in long protracted campaigns without the usual rotation and support etc the Empire could formerly provide.
@@Veloxyll Plus the loss of all that people-power that you need to efficiently man one those buggers!
Earthly navies seem to follow the US pattern where roughly 1/3rd are available for combat while 1/3rd are in training or break in cruise type situations with 1/3rd down for heavy maintenance and upgrades. The training 1/3rd can be pushed into battle after expedited training and likely tasked for the expected easier battle tasks or reserve positions. Some of those getting ready for maintenance work can be deferred while those wrapping things up can be rushed out the door in some cases.
When the Empire lost those depot facilities they would have also lost many ships with them that were in the repair or refit cycle. Plus they would have lost the huge resources to keep their own ships repaired and fitted. This would have taken a toll on those forces after a few years. Add in that many of these break away units would not have the ability to handle large scale repairs and that would further degrade the number of Star Destroyers able to put up a fight after 20 years of handyman type repairs vs a professional depot with proper facilities and equipment.
Thus these issues could account for well over 1/3rd of the Star Destroyers after 20 years.
I find it hard to believe the Empire had 25,000 Star Destroyers. Remember in Episode IV Han Solo said: "The entire star fleet couldn't destroy the whole planet. It'd take a thousand ships with more fire power than I've-" and Han had an Imperial background.
I’ve always liked to know how in canon they lost 25,000 star destroyers despite having “emperor” galius Rex ruling the empire and could’ve answered to him, especially when we don’t know much info about potential imperial warlords
That’s why I believe most of them were transferred to the first order
We get almost no content from the Legacy era from any star wars channel. I would LOVE to see you tall about the state of the Empire, Jedi, Galactic Alliance or even the Sith Empire at that point!
I love the shots from X-Wing Alliance in this video. I think the other major side of things is the sheer maintenance cost of such a fleet requires an immense tax and logistical base which really was showed in the Legends series. With reduced recruiting and the academies you wouldn’t have even had enough folks or economic might to support such a fleet.
''loss due to essentially falling into private hands and disappearing'' - I swear I saw a Red Imperial Star Destroyer once, but hardly anyone believed me... 😁
In Soviet Empire, Star Destroyer loses 25,000 Endors
Yours Truly underrated comment
In Soviet Galaxy, 25000 empires lost 1 Star Destroyer.
Sometimes reality is stranger than meme... In late 80s Soviet Union traded Pepsi Co a fleet of subs and boats (17 submarines, a cruiser, a frigate, and a destroyer)
for three billion dollars worth of Pepsi (the drink). It caused Pepsi Co to become the 6th most powerful military in the world, for a moment.
@@demogorgonzola Quite literally a corporate fleet! They didn't keep those assets long of course, but it's a funny bit of Cold War history.
In Soviet Russia, Pepsi has military
25k lost over a dozen years vs 25k lost in the span of a single year. Which one seems more realistic? In one universe Coruscant was fought over while in the other a group of 12yr olds captured Mas Ameda and the planet was given up without a fight.
In Canon they lost their star destroyers because the empire self-destructed much quicker thanks to Palpatines contingency plan. While it is certainly a bit unrealistic and should probably have taken at least a few more years, there is at least some explanation of how it happened.
3.3 Millions of soviet soldiers captured in a few weeks un 1942 is the perfect example about how the canon post Endor is ok and realistic.
Wait, what? I haven't been keeping up on expanded canon content, please tell me that's a joke?
Plus, some Canon content implies that many imperial governors actually defected to the new republic in the first months after Endor, and when you combine that with Palpatine's contingency, while it might make a bit more sense to extend the time period by a few years, the one year timeline is not as unrealistic as it might seem.
This comment ignores the fact that Coruscant was rampant with terrorism, cut off from the rest of the empire, and in the middle of a full fledged civil war which the empire was losing, but yes. Mas Amedda was captured by a group of twelve year old street urchins who were able to crawl into his room through the laundry chute. Plus, Coruscant was only surrendered after nearly the entire imperial military had been wiped out, and most of what was left had fled to the unknown regions, so saying that Coruscant was given up without a fight ignores the context of the Empire's surrender.
Tyber Zahn also was a big factor!
The Imperial fleet fled from Endor to Kuat, where Tyber Zahn was stealing the Eclipse and he destroyed hundrets of Star Destroyers there.
Why not capture?
@@tapultanul97The Rebels exist and I dont think they gonna be happy with a criminal organisation possessing fleets of Star Destroyers. Thats also the same reason why Zann abandoned the Eclipse because he knew the Rebels and Empire wanted it.
@@SkepCakes i wonder if the criminals knew how to use them.
@@tapultanul97 probably, because they also knew how to use the superweapon on the Aggressor-class Star Destroyer(Ie downsized Eclipse) against the Empire/Rebels.
If D and D wrote Star Wars: I guess the Empire forgot about their 25,000 Star Destroyers.
I always wonder what ever happen to those star destroyer and now I know thanks. Great lore video love your content
Actually, they lost more than 25,000 star destroyers. Kuat didn't stop producing them immediately after all. They had 25,000 in operation at one time. They probably lost like 26 or 27 thousand of them before the peace treaty was signed.
"not only did the emperor die"
*JJ Abrams 'doubt'
Well to be fair, the old EU did that first, but being fair again almost everyone involved considered that plot line rather stupid, contrived, and cheapening of the original trilogy and kind of politely ignored it as much as possible. Some others with some sense might have taken note of that reaction when planning a recent film...
Hell yea I enjoyed this video!! I love It when you go deep into the military lore is SW!! Thanks for the great content
The Top Hat Society in the Star Wars universe seeing all those Broken Star Destroyers:
"It's ... Perfect. We shall use these as our new ships. We shall fix them up and brand them Top Hat Society."
The scale of this is hard to imagine. Wookiepedia says that the crew of a Star Destroyer is about 37,000. So to crew 25,000 Star Destroyers, you need 925 million crew. Almost three times the population of the U.S. But considering this is a Empire of many planets, and Coruscant alone had a population of over 1 trillion, the people can be found. But this is one reason I love Star Wars. Imagining a Republic, or Empire, that is many, many magnitudes bigger than anything the Earth has ever seen.
So the rebels did the "divided and conquer" pretty effectively..
Makes sense
Defeat in detail is the term you're looking for.
@@Sharks545 No, defeat in detail is used to be able to outbumber an spread out unified enemy locally, this was divide and conquer no doubt
Divide et impera
and in current canon The Empire is utterly defeated within a year or two after the Battle of Endor. 10/10.
FrozenGrip that means they must have self destructed more than half of the entire command fleet cuz you can't feasibly lose that many mile long flying doritos to rebels alone
@@blackshogun272 The entire idea of The Empire self-destructing with barely any moths, grand moths, admirals, grand admirals etc... not breaking off and forming their own faction is utterly retarded.
I prefer to think most of them formed into warlords that the New Republic happily ignored while disarming. Honestly I think the head canon makes way more sense.
@@frozengrip2609 I believe a good chunk of the Aftermath Trilogy is Gallius Rax arranging the destruction (via Rebel forces or other means) of any high-ranking Imperials that he cannot get under his own control. And the trilogy does end with several instances of Imperial remnant factions controlling bits and pieces of the galaxy. It's just that none of them have anywhere near the resources to be a threat to much of the galaxy (except maybe Sloane's Unknown Regions remnant, which has its own issues and is laying low).
I love that beat.
Do a canon one. Since god knows Disney prolly never will
My idea, after Jakku the largest group surrenders and form the Remnant States that maintain a semi independent state but are occupied by the Republic, think Japan after WWII. They maintain a small self defense force but most of the Star Destroyers are mothballed. The forces that don't surrender flee to the Unknown Regions and join up with the First Order or strike out on their own as pirates and warlords which the Republic deals with occasionally but doesn't have the resources to pursue because of the disarmament. The First Order unifying these factions to launch their conquest of the galaxy would also help explain why they were able to blitz the galaxy so easily.
If the Rise of Skywalker trailers are anything to go by, they all got parked under ice sheets somewhere.
Space whales....that's all
I still have absolutely no idea about Disney cannon as the films don't explain anything about the state the galaxy is in.
@@clone4211 - my guess, they'll just further plagiarize the EU and resell it as disneycanon. So, whatever you see in the eu after rotj, will roughly happen in disneycanon, just not as interesting or fleshed out, but diseycanon readers will eat it up anyway, despite mostly hating the eu (showing that they never even followed the eu story in the first place)
I mean...they did it with rogue one and thrawn, and it made a buck for disney
Wow being in the Empire must have been a terrible job and the domino effect really hit those star destroyer. Great video
Love the content but I always have to stay and watch the Corgi. It cracks me up every time.
I really want a deep dive into the Legacy Era tbh...
I LOVE this crude matter! Eckhart is Excellent!
I love how legends explained that after Endor, the Empire basically fought itself for over a decade, resulting in massive losses. However, the new canon, like that crappy aftermath book, would have you believe that the massive Galactic Empire fell to a bunch of space cowboys within a year. The Mandalorian is kind of fixing this by reintroducing Imperial Warlords, but still, the new canon is annoyingly lazy.
well if the lose most of their force with a year if most of empire military just left.
It makes sense that the Empire would fracture after Palpatine's death under its chief admirals like how Alexander the Great's empire fractured among his top generals. Endless war among rival factions did them in.
That Blue General Guy: "Emperor P, we're taking some destroyers on a little detour"
Emperor P: "Dew it"
I think you're on the wrong channel for that meme my friend.
It is always interesting to see how different people do things. Especially canon vs legends.
Would like to see the canon version if thats ok Eck. Love ur vids
everytime im drunk i watch these star wars videos, i always enjoy it
Legends: The Empire formed various factions that fought through over a decade of war with the growing New Republic as well as each other. Gradually being filed down until they formed the Imperial Remnant and became a legitimate government. Though weaker than the New Republic, it would survive over a century later and have various conflicts with the Jedi and Sith alike.
Disney: Eraser
What would have happened if UNSC had defeated he covenant forces and captured the forerunner fleet in Halo Wars instead of destroying the ships?. #askeck
We would be the dominant space force in the Galaxy.
I hope he does this one 😊
very good video my man!!
Legends: vast amount of imperial splinter groups taking resources and revolts across the galaxy
Canon: plot
to see what the Canon has to say with the loss of so many ships...?
...Do it.
Langara sg1 Well, desertions, in-fighting, atrittion and their huge losses in the battle of Jakku.
Yeah
They do explain how the empire lost their Super Star destroyer
Warhammer 40k: *Laughs Hysterically*
@@loltwest9423
More like
"We maaay have lost AT LEAST 25 000 planets"
The planet falls before the empire does.
That's how many death korps guardsmen we lose in the first five seconds of an invasion.
To be fair, the Imperium of Man does a decent job holding onto ships, aside from the occasional stupidity (I'm gonna charge the Vengeful Spirit everyone, YOLO). Now when it comes to the Guard... Expendable doesn't even begin to describe it.
More like: we lost downright magic level tech that allowed us to fuck with time itself and use it in weapons, now we're down to overcharged flashlights
Very late comment but I just realized the biggest reasons for the loss of so many ships are: bad management due to Palpatine, a lack of leadership due to loss of Palpatine, and the return of Palpatine. “Ironic,” -Palpatine
I’d like to think a portion of the Imperial Armada are in the Unknown Regions under the Empire of the Hand. The only place they could be well maintained and crewed without the threat of the New Republic and other Imperial Warlords.
It’s a tribute to the incompetence of the writers.
The second Death Star is destroyed along with one dreadnought and 50 star destroyers at the battle of Endor.
Leia: 24950 ISDs and 11 dreadnoughts to go.
Additional: you shouldn’t need 1000000 novels to fill in the massive plot holes left in the movies.
Writers: *writes 1000000 novels explaining how the other star destroyers were lost*
You: "why don't they explain this? They're so incompetent!"
#AskEck
How did the Empire react to The Ghost Crews Liberation of Lothal?
"I'll deal with that in a minute."
"too busy to deal with this shit right now"
They went to disneyland
"I'mma track the Grand Admiral."
"He's gone, sir."
"Well, find him!"
"Yessir!"
Lothal forgotten because of missing Grand Admiral captured by space whales.
Lothal is the most worthless planet in any Star Wars continuity. Lets build a vital factory on a planet with no valuable resources but highly active scum whom constantly defeat superior numbers etc.
There’s only one thing that could’ve happened to those Star Destroyers...
*Darth Jar Jar*
Aw shit
The Empire had over 25,000 Star Destroyers and the first order only had like 12, some say that the first order would win in a war against the empire
Their Star Destroyers were better...
Great point I agree
Where are you getting that? As far as I know they probably have much more. It’d not like we saw 25 000 star destroyers in the movies
In Star Wars battlefront 2 Resurrection, Iden Versio says the First Order have enough capital ships to take over the galaxy so they probably have a few thousand Star Destroyers.
the first order had a lot more than that.
I think 25,000 star destroyers is a huge underestimate. The Empire probably have at least a million of them to control hyperspace lanes and star systems.
Liam Walsh now that number is around right. But there was tens of millions of support ships across the galaxy. SD's were for the important planets or outposts. But you must remember that in a perspectively infinite galaxy, 25,000 ships could easily be destroyed, abandoned, or captured in over 15 years
#AskEck
*Attempt 624*
Do the Forerunners vs the Imperium of Man Pre-Horus Heresy.
(Halo vs Warhammer 40k).
The Vagyr Battlecruiser from Homeworld 2 vs The UNSC Canberra Class Battlecruiser from Halo.
Great video!
The Situation over the Imperial Empirer in this Video is like the great Skism in Halo with the Covernant.
what is the video that plays in the background, is it a movie or something? m talking about the one at 1:30
I just love it when the Empire struggles, and their biggest weapon know as FEAR, used against it, so satisfying. 😈
I think one thing to explore is if 25000 Star Destroyers includes Gladiators, old Venators and Victories as well as Imperials.
Dude! Love your outtro!
Why is it so easy to take out such powerful ships as star and super star destroyers in the Star Wars saga?
Especially as the rebel navy is equipped with much lighter ships like the CR-90 corvette? It’s only in the years after Endor that the New Republic gets larger numbers of the heavier Mon Cal ships and captured Star Destroyers.
Coming soon to cinemas
Star wars: dude where's the my star destroyer 😇
@Jose Rivera
But dad I got a date Friday.
I was gonna impress here with my big turbo lasers 😊
Your so mean
(slams door)
Grammar must you the dumbasses
Can you do more swtor content?? Like tatooine or the battle of hoth in swtor? Great videos btw man! Glad I subbed
i meeeeaaan, one part as well, as actually said in specter of the past, is that destroyers take a LOT of upkeep, without a good structure of docks and shipyards or without a good engineer corps a destroyer would quickly start breaking down in many areas
perhaps the second part of Dreadnought's battle will be seen
Would love a canon version, was silly how quickly they lost in the new canon in the Aftermath Trilogy
I really like the fact that in new cannon, Piet diet commanding the executor.
Wasn't there a theory that the Death Star (1&2) had a hangar bay for Star Destroyers? Also, up until the Executor crashed into the second DS, most if not all of the SDs were in relatively close orbit, and unless they jumped to hyperspace at the last second, they would have been caught up in the explosion. If not the initial blast, the resulting chunks of the DS certainly would have taken many of them out.
My best guess for most is 1. Attrition: not having resources to maintain many star destroyers after Endor and further fracturing of the empire and 2. Probably hundreds of small skirmishes after Endor from infighting or with the New Relublic either destroying ISDs or damaging them where they had to be scuttled
Where do you get some of this footage that you use. Especially near the end and stuff.
ugh, that tie fighter and x-wing alliance footage. getting those nostalgia feels
hmm not read the throng or is it thron duality book/books yet (would think its 2 books with duality considering 3 books got the name triology) would you recomend the books and if so what is the titles on them?
What video was being played near the end with the super star destroyer blowing up the revel fleet
What live action movie/show is that with them talking about Fondor and/or the star destroyer with the fin on front?
Death star: **gets destroyed**
Palpatine: *lets do that again*
2 deathstars get destroyed,
First order
"Let's do that again, but bigger"
Let's *DEW* it again
what was that clip at the end from? I don't recognize it?
What video was that? The one with the super star destroyer taking on the rebel flag ship. It looks like a fan film but I've never seen it before
Please do a version about the canon version of this. I absolutely love Palpatine's self destructive Operation Cinder.
He's like doofinshmirtz
He did...you just want the Disney shit version
Battle of Jakkut was a death blow and a lot went to the Unknown Regions and then there is the suprise in Episode 9.
Where does some of the video footage come from? I recognise the early X-Wing/Tie-Fighter games but other stuff?
I also really want to know. Some of the space battle footage looks excellent
I factor I think you didn't cover was that with the loss of major and minor shipyards any surviving fleets will have a harder time getting spare parts to repair their ships which would lead Imperial Admirals forced to canabalize the fleets to keep some operational.
It would also have been a factor in an in detections both large and small.
An Imperial Admiral may come over to the New Republic and bring his fleet and Sector/system to get the spare parts to keep in functioning as well as other accommodations such as a high rank in the New Republic military or keeping sector control, while a small base of a few hundred personnel with a half squadron may defect because they are running out of food and power packs and everything in between.
@eck you should do a video on a Death Star but instead of a massive super laser, cover it with point defense and turbo lasers
What movie is that space battle towards the end of the video ??? I don’t remember that at all
Ideas i had considering this vid; a new ISD I variant with an EMP-type weapon that knocks out the Sensors of all ships in range, but not its own, and a new class
of SD, based off of this variant, but only 1,326 meters long...
Imperial I-class SD Logis, and the later Logis-class SD.
Story hook for the ISD Logis; it was on of a very few ships that was tracking where ISDs & Imperial assets went post-Endor, until it...
TBD, a Star Destroyer 1,309m long, designed in compliance with the Tarkin Doctrine.
You should do a Star Wars Vs with a estimated amount of the Resistance Fleet in Episode 9 trailer vs The CIS defense fleet of there capital
The Empire lost because the script writer wrote it that way. Though they don't exist so they can't really lose.
What film were the last 5 mins of this video from?
What was that CGI/almost live action scene at the end from?