How Every Big Brother Winner could have LOST
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- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
- Winners are some of the greatest Big Brother players of all time. But today, let's take a rewind and look at to how each of these "greats" could have lost the game. For some, it's as simple as one person winning a competition. For others, it's a bit more complicated, so join me as we look at how all 22 winners of the show could have lost through their own unique circumstances.
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CHAPTERS:
00:00 How easy it is to lose
01:19 Will BB2
01:52 Lisa BB3
02:33 Jun BB4
02:55 Drew BB5
03:33 Maggie BB6
03:54 Boogie BB7
04:28 Dick BB8
05:06 Adam BB9
05:46 Dan BB10
06:12 Jordan BB11
06:48 Hayden BB12
07:29 Rachel BB13
08:14 Ian BB14
08:54 Andy BB15
09:40 Derrick BB16
10:23 Steve BB17
10:53 Nicole BB18
11:30 Josh BB19 (oh yeah)
12:06 Kaycee BB20
12:48 Jacks- I mean Michie BB21
13:19 Cody BB22
14:00 Xavier BB23
14:35 Ending
15:03 Nicole's Innocent Dream 
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Also for Ian, if Boogie hadn’t won the first coach’s competition which gave Ian safety, I’m convinced the house would have tried to vote him out because of how annoying he was acting that first week.
They definitely would have. Willie was more than set on putting Ian up since he didnt mix with the house well. Also means who knows how far Willie Hantz would have gone if he didnt have to nominate Frank that week
That’s why I’m actually happy Ian won. People only wanted to vote Ian for being annoying. Ian was actually good for half of the peoples games as well.
@@TTTNeptunebut it's funny/ironic because Ian even "mapped out" how he'd win big brother on paper (you can find a pic if you google it) and he literally wrote "week 1: watch try hards crash and burn" and that would've been him if it weren't a special season with the coaches and Boogie chose to save him
1000% which is why I think Frank took Ian's betrayal of Boogie so hard.
@@W4TSKY Oh most definitely!
There was a three week period in 22 where Janelle, Kaysar, and Da'Vonne placed 2nd in their HoH's by a fraction. In a world where one or all of them win, it could've led to a sequence resulting in a loss for Cody
Cody was so well positioned he wouldn’t have gone home. Nicole, Memphis, Dani, and possibly Tyler would have gone home over him if he was on the block. Cody’s only danger spot was if he didn’t win final 4 veto.
at least one of them absolutely would’ve tried to backdoor cody, but it’s unlikely the votes would’ve been there
Davonne’s was the hardest to watch because Christmas only won because Davonne picked the wrong answer
@@raheemfielder-bey998 well also in post show interviews Nicole said she would’ve cut Cody so there’s that
@@CD-bj5qh Nicole also literally was blindsided live so if she lied in her drs than she’s on some bs talking in post show interviews
In Season 19, Josh would have for sure lost the game, if Jessica decided to use the Veto to save Ramses, and then named Paul as the Replacement Nominee.
I YELLED at my TV when I seen that she didn't do this when it aired originally!!
Also if Josh didn't hit that buzzer for individual immunity during that team comp after the day 1 eviction, there's a solid chance he goes home since his relationship with Paul hadn't been fully realised yet.
You should do a series of the successes and failures of people of certain occupations in the game of big brother. Like teachers, nurses, server/bartenders, lawyers, sheriffs/detectives
And stylists
Will's calmness and charisma even while sitting in the nomination chair is astounding
The hardest thing to watch was Jessica not saving Ramses. She easily could’ve evicted Paul and BB19 would’ve taken such a turn.
I think actually Josh goes if he’s sitting next to Paul
@@ethanuy2261either way it was good. Had she nominated Paul then things would’ve been different
for andy, you could say that if there’s no mvp twist, then elissa probably goes home week one and the moving company wouldn’t fall apart as nick is now safe week two. and for nicole, you could say that if that week one hoh comp wasn’t structured so weirdly with only her team being eligible to win, then someone like paul, victor, or jozea might win and target the returnees
Also for Andy if Amanda was safe with the veto when he flipped on her and she makes it to the end she wins
It's funny you compare BB to Mario Party. The Draft I do every year with my friend group I theme around Mario Party. The person who picks the First Boot gets a "First Boot" Star, there's a "First Juror" Star, "Winner", "AFP", "Most Comp Wins", "Overall Best Lineup", and "Runner Up". It's a lot of fun, and a unique way to play a Big Brother Draft!
That’s actually sick af I love it
This video along shows you how the show drastically changed around BB14-15. I went from “multiple scenarios” to “no realistic viable one a XYZ person could’ve lost”
I love that Andy’s season was the 1st season I ever watched fully and I realized from like Week 3, he was gonna win because he’s so likable yet under the radar. Literally an unbeatable winner. If there was an all winners season for bb, Andy could possibly win again
If Amanda & McCrae vote out Andy instead of Aaryn, he loses! That’s the only legitimate way I could think of!
@@KristianYeagerNot even cause he would still stay 3-2. that is honestly crazy how he actually could not lose.
and really quick--
In Big Brother 24, Taylor loses if A. Paloma doesn't walk, or B. the eviction when Paloma DOES walk still happens. and also likely, if Turner wins the Final HoH, he'd take Monte.
And in Big Brother 25, Jag likely loses if Matt or himself doesn't win the power to bring him back into the game. He was already evicted 10-0 in Week 4, it's just a matter of could him and/or Matt convince Cory or Cirie to use it on Jag.
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Bruh you guys have spring break in March 💀💀💀 mines in late april
@@katbenson912 lucky. I could use another break rn lol
@@katbenson912 to be fair, I’m in college and we get done for the year at the last week of April/first week of May (depending on when you have finals), so it would be weird to have spring break now
In Season 15, if McCrae wins the final POV, he stays and evicts Spencer. If McCrae wins the final HOH, he evicts Andy because who wouldn't take Gina Marie to the Final 2?
Yes. Also if Spencer wins final HOH, he was taking GinaMarie. GinaMarie was still taking Andy, mostly since she knows/ figured out she loses even against Spencer, and prefered Andy winning.
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That rewind twist was as bad as the coup d' etat honestly. Imagine winning absolute power with both HOH and POV wins then being stripped of that and being evicted in the same week. Surprised Frankie was such a good soort about it, but I still don't think he wins against Derrick. His lies and backstabbing would have caught up with him with the jury.
To be honest, I'm pretty sure Frankie was pretty upset with the rewind twist. It's largely why he didn't respect Cody's BB16 game so much, and why he wanted Victoria or Derrick to win at that point.
Possible video idea: so many (and I mean many) bb winners had safety/immunity for either the first eviction or first week in the game which is such a weird pattern that I haven’t seen discussed (going on 7 years in a row)
23- Xavier was saved by Christian in the wildcard comp
22- Cody was the first hoh
21- michie was the camp leader and therefore ineligible to be the first banished
20- Kaycee was granted immunity by Swaggy C
19- Josh won the competition that decided the nominees (Cameron, Christmas, and Jillian lost and were nominated). He ALSO got the golden apple of safety that gave him immunity for the day 7 eviction
18- Nicole won the first hoh
17- Steve won the veto which took himself off the block
14- Ian’s team was safe so he wasn’t up for eviction, and later that week, the first time there was an actual vote, Boogie won the coaches comp and gave Ian immunity
13- Rachel was the first hoh
12-Hayden was the first hoh
8- Evel Dick wasn’t eligible to be nominated cause all 3 “enemies” from the season twist were granted immunity for the first eviction
Those are just the seasons I can think of off the top of my head, there’s probably 1 or 2 more
Wow actually incredible pattern that ive never seen recognized, that’s really really cool!
Scottie has said that he was planning on voting for Tyler to win, but after Kaycee won the final HOH he decided to vote for her
I remember Adam told the jury he was donating something like half his winnings to charity, and that was a huge manipulation because people were switching votes over it, he actually kept all the money
that end clip might be the hardest ive laughed watching big brother in my life
The Otev disc throw will never not make me laugh.
#Roadto10k
You deserve it man, great video!
That clip at the end was hilarious.
The fact that Andy was just straight up like "yeah impossible task" or the MVP (the twist of the whole season aka a game mechanic) was removed, which is genuinely silly tbh
Honestly, if josh doesn’t get the golden apple in the first HoH, he is likely to go hone week 1 instead of Jillian.
There are many instances where Ian could have lost.
The first week, if Boogie doesn't win the Coach's competition and gift Ian safety, Ian could have been evicted.
At final six, if Ian doesn't win the POV, Ian gets evicted.
At final four, is Shane wins the POV or Dan is unable to convince Danielle to use the veto on him, Shane casts the sole eviction vote and sends Ian packing.
You should do a video like this for survivor winners!
Good video!
Adam loses week one if Jacob just kept his mouth shut. Adam/Sheila would have been evicted by the Power Couple and Joshuah picks Sheila to replace to Neil.
oo amazing video!
You could do a video talking about the wrong move runner ups made
that nicole clip at the end is absolutely hilarious
I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS :)
For BB18, I wonder how the endgame could have been different if Victor did NOT get to go back in the house for the third time and the season simply progresses to final 6. People typically say that Paul was the biggest opportunist from Victor's returns, and they probably are. But I kinda feel like Nicorey also benefitted from Victor coming back his second time.
In the actual timeline, when Victor won his way back into the house at final 7B, the house was pitted 4 v 3 : Nicole, Paul, Corey, Victor vs. James, Natalie, Michelle. Without Victor, it is two trios pitted against each other : Nicole, Paul, Corey v. James, Natalie, Michelle. Does James still throw the HOH to Nicole? Is Michelle still Nicole's target? How do the comps break down without Victor? Is it possible Paul plays both sides (Jatalie v. Nicorey) at final 5? Is Nicole still the favorite to win BB18? Seems like a pretty interesting "What if?" to me.
I kinda wanna see someone do this with survivor, there’s definitely plenty of ways to do this there, probably more ways. Would be interesting. I kinda wanna do myself, but I would like to see someone else’s video as well
Haha Dr Will couldn't. keep a straight face for long singing "I will survive". When I first saw him do this...once I heard petrified...I KNEW what he was doing. Right after he says petrified...is when he can't help it and starts smiling and makes it obvious. Also..just for the record..Dick was a good player. There is a lot to unpack with that whole season and his win. You have to remember..Daniele being in there is the reason he went off so much on people.
Nice video
What if Spencer would have won final hoh. I think that there is a chaanse he might have evicted Andy . Although he was not even close about winning that. Love your videos man keep up the great work
Make a video about celebrity big brothers!
What if Brian doesnt get caught having 8000 alliances? Why would Dan NOT be evicted? That would change everything for several seasons.
For Kaycee you could also say if there was no hacker comp. or if there is a limit of cussing in a comp
Actually without the Coup, D Tat, the winner could still be Jordan, but I think most likely Michelle wins, because Russell goes at 9, Michelle targets Chima because she hated Chima, and she just evicted her closest ally. Chima gets' 8th, Jessie gets 7th, because he loses gole and the up-down comp likely. Either Kevin or Lydia go at 6, and the season plays from there. Jordan is in the Final 2 in most every scenario that plays out from here. Even Jordan V Natalie in this situation. Lydia wasn't voting for Natalie ever, and Jeff, Russell, and Michelle would all vote for her to win, since Russell and Jordan never got into that huge blowup.
For Hayden, at F7, Britney is torn between nominating him or Matt, and Matt screws himself by trying to get Ragen nominated. If he doesn’t do that, we may have seen Hayden and Enzo on the block together.
For Nicole, at F7 Natalie was pretty close to siding with Paul and Victor and evicting Corey.
Neither of these situations necessarily lead to the winner being evicted, but they at least result in the winner losing their closest ally, thus losing leverage in the game and possibly being evicted in a future week
before watching im predicting that derrick’s from bb16 is if they never hit the reset button 🙌🏾
Guess you’ll have to watch and see if you’re right!
Dick got so many goddamn breaks his season it was insane. Like all winners get lucky breaks but Dick seemed to be almost nothing but them.
Remember though..he was playing for two. Had he been in that house without Daniele...he probably wouldn't have gotten into it much with people. Remember...Jen was going on and on about Daniele and what a cheater she was when Dick poured the tea on her. I don't think the tea would have happened..or the cigarette thing..without Daniele in there. If I remember right..cigarette happened after the tea. And so Jen had an agenda against him from the tea. She would have probably left him alone for the most part without the tea thing. Pots and Pans happened so they would vote Dick out instead of Daniele...was before one of them won the veto. There is a lot to consider when talking about Dick and the help he got. There's no doubt he knew how to play...he knew how to (most of the people in that season were smart enough to consider what dick said makes sense) convince someone that he was a big target..to keep him and they have another week.
Without Danielle Dick's game is worse off IMO. It's that entire angle of a distant dad trying to redeem himself and connect with her that made America fall in love with him and basically turned America's player (Eric) into his personal pawn.
Without Danielle in the house Dick's story becomes a lot less of a sympathetic soap opera and Eric perhaps doesn't have to cave his game for Dick's nearly as hard.
I honestly feel like Dr. Will goes home if both Shannon doesn’t blow up her game when he was on the block next her, or Boogie becoming the bigger threat of Chilltown despite Will being the bigger threat to TOP for the first couple weeks.
his BB2 game is filled with so much luck and contingencies that really relied on his game of being the easy target to keep around and the right people winning HOH (that Monica HOH is so extremely lucky). Without his amazing game on BB7 I don't think he's really that good among the wide scope of players honestly.
I’d argue Kaycee could have lost BB20 if the jury wasn’t bitter towards Tyler
I think for andy, if they realized that he flipped the vote and got Amanda out it would have been over for him
I actually think there was a bigger chance of Cody going home in BB22 one week prior. If Christmas wins F5 HoH, Nicole and Cody are nominated, and if Nicole still wins veto (which is likely due it being BB comics), Enzo is the replacement nominee. Memphis wanted to take Enzo to the end to beat, so he and Christmas vote out Cody 2-1. But yeah, Cody was safe for whole game up until then because the only person he could ever go home against was Enzo and honestly it wouldn't surprise me if he could somehow get Nicole to use the veto on him with how she played that season lol
True I forgot how close he was to going home at final 5! Christmas was close to winning that HOH too
It don't matter. Everything after Keesha's eviction is forgettable anyway.
The crazy thing is, if Nicole DOES lose that HOH to Christmas, she's pretty much winning the season. Its EXTREMELY likely anyway. She won or came in 2nd in every comp from the final 6 veto only ever losing to Cody. With Cody off the board, she likely takes Memphis out at 4, and goes to a final 3 where she can drag christmas to the end for an easy win
@@brianregan5933 Yeah, I think you're right. If Cody is out, Enzo probably still gets F4 HoH so then either Nicole wins F4 veto, takes out Memphis and wins the season or Memphis wins F4 Veto (less likely due to his back issues but not impossible as he did well in comps) and he wins the season. Nicole taking Christmas and winning like 8-1 and Memphis taking Enzo and probably barely winning like 5-4 being the only difference.
@@CometStriderX Honestly the same goes if Nicole decides to backdoor Cody at 5. I can definitely see why she doesn't, but with the benefit of hindsight, it probably works out for her phenomenally well
Let’s be honest Mario party is more stressful than my brother would be
For the 2 most recent winners;
Taylor could have hypothetically lost if it wasn't for Paloma quitting, however she destroyed alyssa in the comp so I won't count that
but she could have lost if Turner won the f3 hoh and evicted Taylor in 3rd over Monte
Jag could have lost if there wasn't a twist allowing matt to save him after being evicted in week 3, or if red doesn't reveal he can forgive cam allowing the flip vote on red to never happen leaving jag out the following week, or if he doesn't win a few comps in the mid/end game he can hypothetically be evicted but towards the end game he was rather safe with Bowie and Matt.
If Jason wins P3 FHOH, He evicts Lisa.
If Nathan doesn’t go against the house and use the POV on Alison, Alison goes home and Jun’s likely only win scenario is sent home pre-jury.
If Jacob Heald doesn’t self-destruct that first week and tell Jen that her partner is a snake, Adam and Sheila were slated to be the first couple evicted
If Michelle isn’t convinced to use her Co-HOH to go Paul/Josh or if she and Natalie decide not the flip on the No Names, Nicole and Corey go up and one likely goes home and the other is screwed
If Tyler manages to get Day/Bay/Enzo to go through w turning on Cody and targeting Daniele, Cody loses two of his strongest pieces and Tyler takes control of the game
Does Adam remind anyone else of the dude from big brother Canada 10?
Big Brother 10, another one is if Jerry wins final HOH, which is not far fetched at all. He was for sure taking Memphis,he confirmed it many times. Dan is evicted in 3rd place now. In addition to the Final 5 scenario you spoke of.
Can you do a Canadian version
Another one for BB 19 is the house swapping Jessica and Cody’s eviction weeks. Cody would have made it to jury and he publicly stated that he would’ve voted Paul.
derrick somehow finds a way to win the game in bb 16 idk how but he does, he is too good
Maybe if Andy doesn’t successfully convince McCrae that he didn’t flip on Amanda, and he and GM get nominated in the double? Idek if he goes home with Spencer and Judd voting but there’s a chance there?
22 - cody is also out at the final 5 if christmas' ball doesn't bounce out in the hoh last second. Christmas HOH results in Nicole/Cody noms - Nicole won the veto, enzo would be replacement and Cody would def leave in that scenario as Memphis/Christmas control the votes
Nicole is such an underrated player
How Josh loses: Kevin doesn't take the 5k and Paul doesn't enter.
If McCrae hadn’t cowered at 6 and kept Elissa safe, that’s the best shot of Andy losing the game. McCrae handed the win to him evicting her.
Only if he's on the block against Spencer or GM after veto. They still would have kept him over Elissa or Judd.
*I wish they would make the Big Brother: Second Chance season for 16 outstanding 1st evicted houseguest to have another shot at this game*
For Andy, if McCrae just believed Elissa. He goes on the block next to Spencer and he get's voted out at the final 5. Josh would have been evicted if Paul didn't decide to flip the script in week 4? (the week Ramses went home)
BB 24 - Ironically, if Daniel and Nicole never bullied Taylor, Taylor has a big chance of getting evicted while sitting next to Nicole.
BB 25 - If Luke was never expelled, Jag's elimination would not be cancelled, and he would've gone home.
BB24: If Daniel doesn’t bully Taylor, Taylor is out Week 2-5
BB25: If Luke doesn’t get expelled or Matt loses path to power, Jag is the Week 4 boot
I feel like if Tiffany and Xavier she would win because she could say she pulled all the strings with the duos and then messed up once to someone else but she was really good
9:25 Andy loses if McCrae believes he's lying instead of telling the truth when it came to the Amanda vote. So it'll be Andy not Elissa going home during the double eviction
13:00 If it where Michie, Tommy, Nicole and Cliff in the final four, even if Michie wins the veto, there is a very good chance he would have cut Tommy.
Jillian would have lost BBCAN1 if... yknow
Frank would have been forced to open Pandora’s Box. The BB16 cast were most definitely forced to push the rewind button.
I feel like you should have also done a section for comp wins. If certain players didn’t get positive comp results at multiple rounds (namely Ian, Rachel, Kaycee, Michie) they don’t win the game. Comps are pretty luck based in nature and shouldn’t be treated as controllable ways for a player to get to the end
14:45 Which is partially why he's a top five winner.
I think that if Enzo evicted Nicole instead of David in the triple eviction Cody might’ve gone because she was very important in protecting him.
Naw. Memphis, Dani and Enzo were all totally loyal to him. David and Christmas weren't really targetting him soon either. Literally only Tyler was after him. And Cody did more to protect Nicole than vice versa. If Cody wanted to send Nicole home at Final 8, Final 6, or Final 4 he easly could have. Maybe even Final 7, although that is less clear. Literally the only time Nicole maybe could have sent Cody home maybe is Final 5. Nicole makes it nowhere near Final 3 without Cody. Cody without Nicole, makes virtually no difference.
@@grantgoffin4774 Dani left in the triple before David. I think that Memphis, Xmas, David and Tyler would’ve been against Cody and Enzo. Cody wins the f6 hoh and gets Tyler out but if Nicole isn’t there then I think Xmas wins the f5 hoh and gets Cody out. I can’t remember who came in second in the f5 veto though. It might’ve been Cody so he would’ve won it without Nicole there.
@@chevon1920 Cody was 2nd in the veto so he still wins that and saves himself. I think Enzo, Cody, and David collectively boot Memphis still to split up the showmance. Cody won F4 veto already, and still likely boots Xmas. David would probably take Enzo, but Cody almost for sure still wins final HOH, and takes whoever (Enzo likely) and wins. Basically with Nicole out, Cody just wins the only round after F7 he didn't win a comp now, so if safe right to the end regardless. And Tyler 100% still targets and gets rid of Dani at F7 even with Nicole no longer there. He might nominate Cody now (probably does as he was aligned with all of Xmas, Memphis, David, and saw Cody as a threat, and I don't think he would want to target Enzo yet either), but Tyler would want Dani out before Cody, and Dani would go out over Cody as well.
Jessica said she would have voted for Paul as opposed to Cody who never would have.
One thing that might’ve changed Josh winning is if Jess didn’t use the halting hex and let Cody go home pre-jury, then Jess would’ve been the decided vote where she likely votes for Paul because Jess had a way higher dislike for Josh then Cody did. But there is still the chance Josh does win, cause the game was orchestrated by Paul and Jess probably wouldn’t have like the scenario where the puppet master wins
xavier loses if hannah/tiff win at 6 or 5 as they were targeting him - also if DF didnt basically antagonize azah in the final week and she won final hoh she cuts him
This is a year late I realize but for those who come back to this, Nicole goes home late pre jury very easily if glens coconuts don’t move right before he gets his flag. There’s even a chance she goes home in place of jozea
Andy was one of the worst bb winners next to Jackson and cookout alliance
You should do a video of the worst alliances
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i can't believe you said josh was never in danger of going home... was that a troll? if jessica had nominated almost ANYONE else other than ramses next to josh, josh is gone. if josh doesn't go for the golden apple week 1, he's literally first boot. if christmas wins final 3 hoh, josh is out. he had several paths to being evicted lmaoo
Honestly, you're off on a lot of these. Several of these you make statements that the winner had no chance of going home, or lofty chances but there's definitely instances out there. For example, if McCrae has more time to process Amanda's eviction or if he believes Elissa over Andy, there's a chance Andy doesn't win that season. Or if Ivette never sends that awful goodbye message to Rachel. And theres WAYYYY more scenarios in which Nicole loses than winning.
For Andy it should be if Amanda won the final 7 veto. If she stays then she would've targeted Andy since she knew Andy was the vote that flipped
I feel like since the whole America's player thing from season 8 was included then sequestering/not sequestering the jury in season 3 should be counted as a win for Danielle, not Lisa. I feel pretty strongly that had there not been all the spite and sour taste for Danielle from them watching the entire show that she would've won as she was just a better player overall. Lisa is the definition of a coaster winner.
13:20 If Enzo sided with Tyler in voting out Nicole, I feel like Cody's path is a lot tougher.
I’m ecstatic our boy Josh Martinez is a pretty sure winner no matter the outcome 😂 I’m also the biggest Nicole Franzel fan ever and I think she also could have possibly lost if Paul owned up to their game in BB18
Josh loses if Paul didn't convince Jessica to not target them that week Josh would've pawn and not Ramsey were Josh goes home
@@kimani2286 Yes. Even Cody and Jess would have targetted Josh over Paul that week if she had them both on the block, and encouraged Mark, Elena, Ramses to do the same. They both hated Josh bigtime at that point, and still had some delusional semi trust in Paul.
Just a question, and not that you simply can't, but what is there for Nicole to be a fan of? just curious.
To me she was super fake and toxic, everything always about her, latched to the guys and betrayed every single woman ever, never owned up to her villainy and always pretended to be the hero for the audience which is the most obnoxious trend in recent seasons with players who care for reception and online following or 'integrity' more than the game. Neither she nor the people she surrounded herself with were remotely entertaining on 18 and 22, and I found her strategy extremely lacking for me to consider her win satisfying even from that regard. By far my least favorite winner, maybe only Adam below her.
@@12354rony Agreed. Honestly I liked Nicole best on 16.
@Steveaga My guy, where did I say she didn't deserve to win over Paul that season? He wasn't much better and his lackluster game def played a role.
Nothing you said invalidates her toxic personality or motives for her gameplay and moves (social following, looking good to the public, remember her 'loving' Ian to the cameras after laughing about him with others on 22?)
She was the rat floater Andy but on steroids, targeting mostly women while comfortably hiding behind guys, and often finding petty reasoning that felt to me personal. At least Andy owned he was the villain, she never did and it was huge in a lot of fans not being able to root for her at any point. Her strategy was valid, I'll give you that, just not my kind of strategy or gameplay. I LOVE cutthroat strategy, but not when it gets personal, see bbcan 9 or 10 for that matter.
There were def more toxic folks in bb history than her, but she's quite up there. I don't hate her per se, hate is a strong word I reserve for the truly few vile people who were on the show, I just do not like her. I certainly don't condone the nasty things going on social media though. Hope I made myself clear here.
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Xavier so many if Hannah wins final 5 veto if azah isn’t an idiot and wins final hoh and takes big d
in the finale of season 19 jessica did say she would’ve voted for paul so if she would’ve ended up in jury and not cody wouldn’t that be a paul win too?
Yeah that’s also a possibility but tbf she did get to see the entire game from home
@@Ethanimale ohh yeah that’s true i hadn’t considered that
Dan got 2nd in the f5 veto, so if Memphis would have lost it he would have been safe any way.
I believe BB10 Dan is the only season where you can come up with zero failure outcomes based on the information on the season we have
The houseguests could’ve easily chose to evict him over Steven week 2
@@haydenf4562 the votes would never have been there
it was unanimous for Dan to stay - not to say there werent people considering cutting Dan but there would have never been 5 votes on him. he was safe the whole season
Wouldn't BB15 Andy also be another one? I mean Ethanimale was completely unable to come up with a legitimate, realistic reason Andy goes home at any point in BB15 whereas with Dan he was able to at least entertain the idea.
@@cetusthecoolboi769 yeah but the details were wrong in this video as i stated in my original comment - Dan got 2nd in the veto - so iirc the scenario he entertains in this video could never have happened
@@Agent7300 I see. It was just the part about BB10 Dan being the only one with zero failure outcomes that stuck out me given BB15 Andy's game.
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and then BB24 - if paloma doesn’t self evict
For Adam BB9, had Jacob not been such an ignoramus, Adam would've gone home with Sheila first. And there's no way Joshuah would've paired up with Adam over Sheila when Neil left.
For Rachel BB11, had Porsche not opened the Pandora's Box that production strong-armed her into opening, Rachel would've had a tough time.
for andy it’s 100% F6 if the hoh or veto holder weren’t stupid and saved or kept elissa safe / took andy out then elissa probably wins
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I mean Lisa loses if Danielle or Jason win final hoh, no?
If Kaysar doesn’t throw the HOH to Jennifer, does Maggie still win? Knowing Kaysar he does follow through with his plan to backdoor James, so the Friendship is still intact and James is now gone. Janelle still wins the next HOH, but now that Jennifer isn’t the target, she most likely nominates Maggie and Ivette, probably keeping them both on the block with the POV. In that case, who goes? April and Jennifer are obviously voting to keep Maggie, and Beau keeps Ivette, but what do Howie, Kaysar, and Rachel do? I know they all hated Ivette, but they all also recognized Maggie’s status as the leader of the Friendship. If they all vote Maggie out, then she loses. Even if Beau votes to keep Maggie, it’s a 3-3 tie which Janelle breaks. Should Ivette be evicted, then Maggie now doesn’t have her comp shield in Ivette (she really benefited from Ivette winning the Final 4 veto, if she doesn’t, April evicts Ivette and then Janelle takes April to the end and wins). Beau still wins the next HOH and we can assume he still targets Rachel (unfortunately we most likely lose the POLYESTER HAIR moment, which is just a shame); April probably targets Kaysar on her HOH (this is assuming of course Kaysar loses these HOH comps). Howie’s HOH, he probably puts up April and Jennifer, which I can see April going because of her animosity with Howie. With Ivette gone, who wins the Final 5 HOH? Janelle? Beau? Janelle still wins that POV and the subsequent HOH, so she’s still guaranteed Final 3. I don’t see a world in which Maggie’s in the end in that case.
12:21 However, Kaycee possibly wins the Battle-Back, so...
Can I be honest? After seeing Erika do that move with convincing janelle, that reassures my thoughts that Erika should’ve won over boogie. Like how are people not realizing that?
For Josh if Cody doesn't win safety the week Jess gets evicted he likely gets evicted instead, in which case Jess makes the jury instead of Cody and I think Jess votes for Paul to win she hated Josh more and respected Paul as a gameplayer. Cody hated them both but he hated Paul more. Same if Jess doesn't win the halting hex, that mean's Cody goes before her and she's on the jury instead him.