“Captain.. your forward seven out of twelve compartments are flooded, you lost an 18-man fire crew when an ammunition locker exploded, and your engineering section depends entirely on a computer system that’s experiencing cascade failures at an exponential rate to keep from overloading the safeties designed to keep your power core from catastrophically disassembling itself. May we render assistance by taking on all non-essential civilians from your ship?” Starfleet Captain logic: “No.. that’s a bit premature…”
@@herondelatorre4023 It certainly does just because they have advanced technology doesn't make them all powerful or all knowing. Picard explains this in the episode Who Watches The Watchers. They have advanced medical technology but people still die.
It wasn't the "Red Shirts", that caused the 'loss' of the U.S.S. Yamato. Someone who enviously coveted the Yamato, sabatoged the ship! "The Yamato SHOULD'VE BEEN MINE!" "If I can't have her, NO ONE WILL!" - B. Finney, Cmdr. Starfleet.
It would have been better writing for the other captain to request evacuation, and before they could even begin the ship exploded. It was a big unnecessary distraction for him to irrationally decline to evacuate. It would have seemed more tragic as well had they began the preparations or just started transporting.
Yes, it would’ve communicated how high the stakes were, a rescue too little too late, slipping through their fingers. If only they arrived a few minutes sooner…
@@creanero The Defiant getting blown up was unfortunate, but it had mostly evacuated. Just watching the saucer burn itself to the frame with a full crew made this one definitely the winner.
It's one of the more grewsome ones, but if you look at other TNG episodes, there are potentially worse ones (not necessarily that you see the actual ship exploding, but when you consider the storyline -- take "Night Terrors" for an example. The crew killed eachother because they went insane due to lack of REM sleep. We don't see any of this violence, but the sequence when the first board the ship is a bit gruesome in itself.
Not holding out a lot of hope for the U.S.S. Hood, Titanic and Lusitania. Probably shouldn't name starships after ships that got sunk in the 20th century.
Challenger breaks the trend, except it met a violent end as well. Hopefully the starships USS Maine, Sultana, and General Slocum will fair better. (Just joking) But in all seriousness USS Pequod?
Starfleet really knows how to pick its captains. When asked if they would like to evacuate non-essential personnel. After citing multiple system failures and the death of an engineering crew they decide to keep everybody on board.
Separating the saucer is pointless when a alien computer virus is rewritting your entire ships computer and I doubt they would be able to beam personnel out in time with the Virus raising and lowering shields while affecting other vital systems. Stuff happens and because you have advanced technology doesn't make you all powerful or all knowing.
@@williamr1088 Its not about being all knowing or all powerful. Common Sense would have told him that since they didn't know what was going on and it had already cost the life of an engineering crew to get all non-essential personnel out of harm's way. You've already lost lives. An abundance of caution was warranted. The actions of the captain were foolish.
I never understood why the saucers hull burned off like that myself. I think the Odyssey's destruction seen in DS9 was far more realistic to what would really happen.
@@Zhortac I understand the Enterprise crew thinking this as they hadn't been scanned by the probe, but the Yamato's crew should have figured this out in no time.
You can see the hull of the Yamato's saucer being burned away. A lot of people were exposed to space in that moment - that the force of the explosion would have killed them instantly was a mercy.
@@dalethelander3781 There was. They were able in the binaries episode to evacuate the whole enterprise in 2 minutes (minus Riker in the Holodeck and Picard who drove the ship out of the space dock). Yes, they had the bridges too, but most of them emergency beamed.
@@acmenipponair It wasn't a matter of time, it was a matter of prudence. A few deaths and a cascade of systems malfunctions is no reason to evacuate the ship.
@@acmenipponair Picard could have started emergency beaming people when they warp core problem was detected as well.......instead they kept trying to talk first. Many people could have been emergency beamed from the Yamoto.......and then returned if the problem had been corrected.
@@velocity9OOOYT ships have escape pods. Also it would be brutally weird to not do a cursory check. What is lost, 1 calorie of energy from a glance and single sentence?
Yes, you presume he decided the potential of the Romulans getting hold of technology and data sufficient to tilt the balance of power with the Federation was worth the risk. He should still have run it up the chain of command, of course. At which point it becomes even more obvious WHY there is a chain of command. If he'd gone in prepared and with the full knowledge of Starfleet Command? Likely the ship wouldn't have gone up like that...
@@Creasy5678 yes, it's not up to him to decide that or to evaluate the risks.He took a official Starfleet ship into the neutral zone, this could lead to a war with the Romulans. First things Picard should told him would be: Why did you do that ? You're relieved of command!
Any sensible Starfleet Captain wouldn't pass it up the chain of command. Because Starfleet Admirals are all megalomaniacal madmen with evil plans to "save the Federation" with some kind of genocidal war.
Hmmm, I kind of feel like if a friendly ship in front of mine is having issues with their antimatter containment and there’s a energy buildup, my first reaction would be to order emergency beam outs of the Yamato’s crew. May not have saved them all but some is better then none. Deal with the breach in protocol and rules ( if there is any) at a later date.
Yeah. I mean, your ship has already proven to be unsafe. I'd begin beaming anyone off the ship that isn't an engineer.. Makes the most sense, but doesn't give that sense of shock at loss for a tv show.
@@kilijanek Picard didn’t raise shields until after the Yamato exploded. Once Worf noticed the energy buildup, they could’ve began emergency beam out. They’ve done it before throughout Star Trek, just before a ship explodes… if only to save the main characters though 😂 But the Enterprise D was capable of transporting hundreds of people at once in an emergency.
I don’t think they can do multiple site-to-site transports at that time. When the Enterprise abandoned ship in 11001001 everyone had to go to the transporter pads. It was only in later series and especially Voyager where enter crews could be beamed up at once (E.g. Workforce in VOY series 7).
@@MichaelOfHardy Enterprise B (with Scotty's help) was able to beam dozens of El-Aurian survivors from a ship caught in an energy ribbon, and in the process of exploding. I'm sure the Enterprise D could've handled more 80 years later.
Among many nightmare scenarios that I can imagine, some of which I’ve lived through, the enigmatic and sudden destruction of the Yamato is possibly the worst I can imagine. The only good thing about it is, no one had time to fear or experience pain.
Yeah that was kinda a dumb plot line, like this was CLEARLY THE PROBE lmao, the ship was completely fine before then and no other problems crept up on the other 6 galaxy classes
2:36 Makes me wonder if the crew were still alive on that saucer, about to be burnt to death as the saucer glowed red from being superheated, or if they were all lucky enough to be dead before that.
There's about a minute and 20 seconds from when Riker asks about evacuation to the explosion. According to Memory Alpha, the Enterprise has at least 20 transporter rooms, and assuming they are more or less standard each has 6 pads. That's 120 pads. If it takes 15 seconds or so to lock on and beam a person aboard and have them clear the deck, they could have saved at least 600 people.
And it wouldn't have even made it less drastic: "Do you wish to beam aboard your crew" "Yes, we have send the people not on duty and their staff already into the mall zone" "Mr. Data, locate the people there and have them emergency beamed" (Rest of the Dialog) "Shields Up. Mr. Data, how many have we?" "Around 500, Sir" "Damn" and it could have been even more drastic with a pan shot over the people in the emergency transporter rooms hearing that the ship has exploded and acting in shock. And then: "Captains Lock, appendix. Over half of the crew and the Yamato are lost. But we have no time to grief, but..."
Just a couple Star Fleet captains having a nice little chat in the Romulan neutral zone, while one of the ships is suffering a bunch of major malfunctions.
Even without beaming over non-essential personnel, why didn't he separate the saucer section so it would not be near the warp engines section? Heck he could have left it on the Federation side and took the Engine section into the Neutral Zone to investigate, then he wouldn't have risked all the families. Did they forget about the separation thing?
That would've been smart to leave the saucer with all non essential personnel behind before hand. But, at this point, with all the system failures, they probably would be able to separate the ship and even if they could, the explosion from the secondary hull would most likely still destroyed the primary hull.
Now here they go to Red Alert just on order to raise shields. I was watching the old ST2 movie and there was comment about when/if the protocol changed. Kirk orders yellow alert which energizes only defensive fields around the bridge and brings weapons systems to 1/2 charge. By TNG this protocol seems to have changed but I don't recall instances where we can really delineate the difference other than by seeing the Yellow or Red bridge warning lights.
They didn't mess with the world...they did what the _Enterprise_ did: They tapped the Yamato logs, which contained the malware program that started to, like the _Enterprise,_ slowly work its way through their ship's systems. Had they scanned that probe from the surface, they would have been dead in short order.
They all accept the risks when they board the ship. Starfleet ships aren't typically warships. They're not intentionally putting themselves in danger. Galaxy class ships aren't Constitution class ships. They don't go on 5 year missions. Galaxy class ships are designed to be away from Earth and other Federation Planets for years, if not decades at a time. If they didn't bring their families, the crew wouldn't see them again for as long as an entire generation.
@@pepperVenge You're missing the point. The ship is falling apart, you should evacuate non-essential personnel. You don't sign up for excusable mistakes.
@@CatsClaw44 The Yamato was not falling apart at that moment. It just had a series of malfunctions, but the ships structure was fine. Life support was fine. The worst that happened up to that moment was they lost 18 people in an accident. When Picard lost 18 people in his first encounter with a Borg Cube, did he stop everything to evacuate the rest of the ships personnel? The containment failure happened suddenly, and shouldn't have happened at all. Last: you completely missed my point. In space, on a starship, bad things can happen. The people on those ships accept that risk. If they weren't ok with that risk, they'd stay home. No one Forced them on the ship they die on. That was their choice.
The loss of the Amato can be directly attributed to the gross criminal negligence of its captain. He should’ve been posthumously stripped of all ranking titles in court martialed in absentia
0:51 _"We lost an engineering team...18 people."_ The number of people lost is horrific, but what would concern me more is who was lost. If they lost several top rungs of their engineering ladder, possibly-or-including the chief engineer, to that malfunction...
As far as I can tell from the captains reaction through the distorted display, the bridge received no warning that a warp core breach was in progress. Either that, or he just didn't give a sh..
I think it was an episode of VOY where a character was baffled that the warp core ejection failed. I was like "Really? Have we been watching the same show?!"
It makes you wonder why Starfleet never installed transverse bulkheads across the ships which could be dropped down into place to create an airtight seal. If they did have them in place, the Enterprise might have been able to save some of those who weren't in the outer sections of the Yamato saucer section.
Not sure why Captain Varley didn't have the ship's core shut down and restarted. Or have the veritable fleet of shuttles available to a Galaxy-class deployed to tow the ship out of the Neutral Zone. ...unless, of course, he was too prideful...
I found it strange they called a starship the yamato considering the real yamato was a battleship in the facist and cruel navy of the Japanese in ww2 .
NJTDover : The reason. About 60+ yrs yrs ago in the ST TNG universe after The Federation and Romulan Empire signed an uneasy treaty of peace thus ending many yrs of conflict between both of them. In that treaty The Federation pledged never to invent or build any type of cloaking device for themselves.
@@kereminde True. But what I said was from story line of a ST TNG episode where Commander Riker tells Captain Picard about a friend of his who was a high ranking Admiral now but a captain then who conspired with other starfleet officers to secretly build a cloaking device in violation of the treaty. Captain Picard's reaction was too arrest the Admiral who was onboard the USS Enterprise and to inform Starfllet Command of this conspiracy.
@@herondelatorre4023 I know, I'm familiar with the story. (Terry O'Quinn as our "insane Admiral of the week" sold it well.) But with fiction there's always "the reason in the story" and "the reason in the writer's room". And in the case of the question of Federation cloaking devices... it's more because Gene did not approve, forcing writers to try to come up with reasons why. The Treaty was a decent enough reason, it survives the "fridge logic" test. But... it doesn't hold up enough to sustained analysis.
@@dalethelander3781 It was likely whichever the first to air it then. I'm citing sfdebris as my source, he's been proven reliable on this sort of thing. :)
If you were in Star Fleet years after the Galaxy class starships were introduced, the pride of an invincible fleet. Seeing its graphic destruction could be traumatizing, like witnessing 9/11. It’s not about the loss or craft and life but the damage to its perception of its classes pride, prestige and ego. The destruction of a dream.
Poor Yamato! No matter what Universe, it always seems to get blowed up. "Congratulations! You're a red shirt." "That doesn't necessarily mean I am going to-" "-On the Yamato." "Damnit!"
different mission profiles and attitude. Galaxy was meant for 10 year tours. for manpower and morale reasons they have civies on board. hence why the ship has the first fully functional saucer sep.
Galaxy was designed during peace and calamity with the Federation. It would have a design focused on luxury, comfort, and ideal transport conditions, with militaristic weaponry a far second thought to it.
Damn...if you weren't killed by the blast, you were being sucked into space by a disintegrating hull and or being cooked in the deeper sections of the ship. Women, children and men.
While the Yamato captain might have thought evacuation was "premature," the ship was destroyed 90 seconds after the offer was made. Nothing was going to save them.
My money is on one of the toilets next to the torpedo room backed up and blew up. Jesus how many of the Starfleet crews were written to have corncobs up their asses?!
- "We lost 18 people"
- "Do you want to evacuate any non-essential personnel ?"
- "No"
- "Ok so you haven't lost enough people yet. Gotcha".
“Captain.. your forward seven out of twelve compartments are flooded, you lost an 18-man fire crew when an ammunition locker exploded, and your engineering section depends entirely on a computer system that’s experiencing cascade failures at an exponential rate to keep from overloading the safeties designed to keep your power core from catastrophically disassembling itself. May we render assistance by taking on all non-essential civilians from your ship?”
Starfleet Captain logic: “No.. that’s a bit premature…”
Starfleet is not exactly the smartest organization.
famous last words
@@demarcusfaulkner7411 Says you. Stuff happens.
@@williamr1088 Correction "S--t" happens. Lol
@@herondelatorre4023 It certainly does just because they have advanced technology doesn't make them all powerful or all knowing. Picard explains this in the episode Who Watches The Watchers. They have advanced medical technology but people still die.
And the entire Yamato crew had just put on their new red shirts.
It wasn't the "Red Shirts", that caused the 'loss' of the U.S.S. Yamato. Someone who enviously coveted the Yamato, sabatoged the ship!
"The Yamato SHOULD'VE BEEN MINE!"
"If I can't have her, NO ONE WILL!" -
B. Finney, Cmdr. Starfleet.
This was 2nd season, Starfleet uniforms were still onesies.
🤣🤣👍
USS Yamato: Second Galaxy-Class Starship in service, first in our hearts.
It would have been better writing for the other captain to request evacuation, and before they could even begin the ship exploded. It was a big unnecessary distraction for him to irrationally decline to evacuate. It would have seemed more tragic as well had they began the preparations or just started transporting.
Yes, it would’ve communicated how high the stakes were, a rescue too little too late, slipping through their fingers. If only they arrived a few minutes sooner…
This is still one of the most gruesome starship destructions ever.
It's pretty grim. Sitak and Magestic or the Defiant in DS9 are probably good options.
@@creanero The Defiant getting blown up was unfortunate, but it had mostly evacuated. Just watching the saucer burn itself to the frame with a full crew made this one definitely the winner.
It's one of the more grewsome ones, but if you look at other TNG episodes, there are potentially worse ones (not necessarily that you see the actual ship exploding, but when you consider the storyline -- take "Night Terrors" for an example. The crew killed eachother because they went insane due to lack of REM sleep. We don't see any of this violence, but the sequence when the first board the ship is a bit gruesome in itself.
Not sure what would make the saucer dissolve like that but ok.
@@LordTalax The matter/antimatter explosion shock wave .
Not holding out a lot of hope for the U.S.S. Hood, Titanic and Lusitania. Probably shouldn't name starships after ships that got sunk in the 20th century.
At least the hood had quite a good track record.
Having USS next to British ships? Lol
Challenger breaks the trend, except it met a violent end as well.
Hopefully the starships USS Maine, Sultana, and General Slocum will fair better. (Just joking)
But in all seriousness USS Pequod?
HMS Hood.
@@bad74maverick1 What's that? We are talking starships here. 😉
Troi: “I sense a disturbance. Something’s wrong.”
Sensors indicate…no life readings, sir.
Thank you, Lieutenant Commander Obvious!
Confirming nobody disobeyed the captain and got out in an escape pod.
Standard procedure to scan for survivors, even if you know there’s no chances
Starfleet really knows how to pick its captains. When asked if they would like to evacuate non-essential personnel. After citing multiple system failures and the death of an engineering crew they decide to keep everybody on board.
And didn’t even try separating the saucer to boot.
Separating the saucer is pointless when a alien computer virus is rewritting your entire ships computer and I doubt they would be able to beam personnel out in time with the Virus raising and lowering shields while affecting other vital systems. Stuff happens and because you have advanced technology doesn't make you all powerful or all knowing.
@@AWriterWandering i don't think the Yamato had that capability
Edit oh it was a galaxy class after all, like the enterprise, nevermind
@@imadrifter Emergency systems like warpcore jettison or saucer separation are always first to fail
@@williamr1088 Its not about being all knowing or all powerful. Common Sense would have told him that since they didn't know what was going on and it had already cost the life of an engineering crew to get all non-essential personnel out of harm's way. You've already lost lives. An abundance of caution was warranted. The actions of the captain were foolish.
2:35 This part really bothered me as a kid. The saucer section microwaving like that. I thought about it for weeks and was deeply concerned about it.
I never understood why the saucers hull burned off like that myself. I think the Odyssey's destruction seen in DS9 was far more realistic to what would really happen.
Same.
@@James-rn7dx At a guess, it wasn't a clean matter anti-matter detonation and loose particles of anti-matter reacted to the Saucers hull.
@@James-rn7dx those scenes are 10 years apart from each other special effects have evolved.
Early seasons gets talked bad about the first two seasons had a more dangerous air about it.
It never occurred to this guy that the systems malfunctions didn't start until after they scanned the probe.
tbf, the Galaxy class was still kinda young at this point, which is why even the Enterprise considered it to have been design flaws at first.
@@Zhortac I understand the Enterprise crew thinking this as they hadn't been scanned by the probe, but the Yamato's crew should have figured this out in no time.
You can see the hull of the Yamato's saucer being burned away. A lot of people were exposed to space in that moment - that the force of the explosion would have killed them instantly was a mercy.
The U.S.S. Yamato captain could have at least saved some by transporting them over to the Enterprise but he turned down Picard's offer. 😧😢😧
There was no time.
@@dalethelander3781 There was. They were able in the binaries episode to evacuate the whole enterprise in 2 minutes (minus Riker in the Holodeck and Picard who drove the ship out of the space dock). Yes, they had the bridges too, but most of them emergency beamed.
@@acmenipponair It wasn't a matter of time, it was a matter of prudence. A few deaths and a cascade of systems malfunctions is no reason to evacuate the ship.
@@acmenipponair Picard could have started emergency beaming people when they warp core problem was detected as well.......instead they kept trying to talk first. Many people could have been emergency beamed from the Yamoto.......and then returned if the problem had been corrected.
That’s hilarious! They just watched the other starship disintegrate and Data says “ No life readings “! No joke!😂😂😂
I would say he is talking about the saucer section. At first it looks like it survives the explosion.
@@2Plus2isChicken2013 He says it after it's already started to disintegrate
@@velocity9OOOYT ships have escape pods. Also it would be brutally weird to not do a cursory check. What is lost, 1 calorie of energy from a glance and single sentence?
"Sensors indicate no life readings, sir"
"I would think not! Weren't you watching how that thing just exploded and disintegrated!"
Right? Like thanks Captain Obvious
Hold on, so the captain of the Yamato just decided by himself to enter the neutral zone ? Without checking back with Starfleet Command ? That's insane
Yes, you presume he decided the potential of the Romulans getting hold of technology and data sufficient to tilt the balance of power with the Federation was worth the risk. He should still have run it up the chain of command, of course.
At which point it becomes even more obvious WHY there is a chain of command. If he'd gone in prepared and with the full knowledge of Starfleet Command? Likely the ship wouldn't have gone up like that...
@@Creasy5678 yes, it's not up to him to decide that or to evaluate the risks.He took a official Starfleet ship into the neutral zone, this could lead to a war with the Romulans. First things Picard should told him would be: Why did you do that ? You're relieved of command!
Starfleet Captains have a disturbing history of just flying off the handle and doing whatever they damn well please.
@@DrForrester87 There is a little Kirk in all of em 🤣🤣
Any sensible Starfleet Captain wouldn't pass it up the chain of command.
Because Starfleet Admirals are all megalomaniacal madmen with evil plans to "save the Federation" with some kind of genocidal war.
We were calling about your starship warranty
sir, we've been trying to reach you about your starship's extended warranty
Galaxy Class Phones have been know to do the same thing.
😂 and some Firestone tires
Hmmm, I kind of feel like if a friendly ship in front of mine is having issues with their antimatter containment and there’s a energy buildup, my first reaction would be to order emergency beam outs of the Yamato’s crew.
May not have saved them all but some is better then none.
Deal with the breach in protocol and rules ( if there is any) at a later date.
Yeah. I mean, your ship has already proven to be unsafe. I'd begin beaming anyone off the ship that isn't an engineer.. Makes the most sense, but doesn't give that sense of shock at loss for a tv show.
So, you would drop your shields next to a starship that might explode?
@@kilijanek Picard didn’t raise shields until after the Yamato exploded. Once Worf noticed the energy buildup, they could’ve began emergency beam out. They’ve done it before throughout Star Trek, just before a ship explodes… if only to save the main characters though 😂
But the Enterprise D was capable of transporting hundreds of people at once in an emergency.
I don’t think they can do multiple site-to-site transports at that time. When the Enterprise abandoned ship in 11001001 everyone had to go to the transporter pads. It was only in later series and especially Voyager where enter crews could be beamed up at once (E.g. Workforce in VOY series 7).
@@MichaelOfHardy Enterprise B (with Scotty's help) was able to beam dozens of El-Aurian survivors from a ship caught in an energy ribbon, and in the process of exploding. I'm sure the Enterprise D could've handled more 80 years later.
The Yamato found what was really spam that the Iconions were trying to keep contained.
"We have been trying to reach u abt ur car extended warrenty"
@@gamerone7390 Not this day and age. It's more like "your starship's extended warranty" Which, apparently, the Yamato didn't have
@@michaelschweigart3517 Starfleet can’t get the Galaxy class insured. The liability is too high because of their tendency to explode.
Never touch a usb stick,unless you onow where its been.
They opened the No-No folder.
Among many nightmare scenarios that I can imagine, some of which I’ve lived through, the enigmatic and sudden destruction of the Yamato is possibly the worst I can imagine. The only good thing about it is, no one had time to fear or experience pain.
Except those in engineering ? Worf, 10 seconds before the explosion: "There is an energy buildup in the engineering section"
@@power2084They’re scientists. They saw it coming. Ten seconds isn’t long to.. _static_
This is what happens when you make the saucer section from blue touch paper
All these system failures started happening AFTER they got scanned by an alien probe, and the captain thinks it's a design flaw???
Yeah that was kinda a dumb plot line, like this was CLEARLY THE PROBE lmao, the ship was completely fine before then and no other problems crept up on the other 6 galaxy classes
They may not have picked up the alien program in their computer system
@@1993bahamut …….that’s the plotline of the entire episode
@@cmj0929 rikers line was the plot. Without la forge you're la fucked
@@1993bahamut Even if they didn't detect the program, they should still be able to put two and two together.
2:36 Makes me wonder if the crew were still alive on that saucer, about to be burnt to death as the saucer glowed red from being superheated, or if they were all lucky enough to be dead before that.
Inertial dampeners were probably offline, so the force from the explosion probably flattened any possible survivors.
The heat from a warp core breach is probably like bring caught in a nuclear explosion, so sudden that a person doesn’t have time to feel and pain.
As the Yamato was exploding the captains last words: sheeeiiittt....
There's about a minute and 20 seconds from when Riker asks about evacuation to the explosion. According to Memory Alpha, the Enterprise has at least 20 transporter rooms, and assuming they are more or less standard each has 6 pads. That's 120 pads. If it takes 15 seconds or so to lock on and beam a person aboard and have them clear the deck, they could have saved at least 600 people.
And then the blast hits the Enterprise with their shields down, and kills everyone.
@@mikeymcmikeface5599 Fair point.
Sad to see a Galaxy Class starship being lost.
And it wouldn't have even made it less drastic:
"Do you wish to beam aboard your crew"
"Yes, we have send the people not on duty and their staff already into the mall zone"
"Mr. Data, locate the people there and have them emergency beamed"
(Rest of the Dialog)
"Shields Up. Mr. Data, how many have we?"
"Around 500, Sir"
"Damn"
and it could have been even more drastic with a pan shot over the people in the emergency transporter rooms hearing that the ship has exploded and acting in shock.
And then:
"Captains Lock, appendix. Over half of the crew and the Yamato are lost. But we have no time to grief, but..."
Your math is wrong .... The Yamato has the same number of transporters. That's double the number of people.
I noticed something very interesting. Notice the viewer glitch that pop in the 1st time? That’s the transmission of the virus.
The virus got to the Enterprise with the computer download not from the communication between the ship.
From a time when there was still great television/movies. It is 20 years now since we have seen anything halfway decent.
Now if only they had decoded the Iconian probe's message in time:
"We've been trying to reach you about your starship's extended warranty..."
Just a couple Star Fleet captains having a nice little chat in the Romulan neutral zone, while one of the ships is suffering a bunch of major malfunctions.
the jsut met and Varely was updating them on what was goign on. no real time to form a plan
Wait he lost 18 crew members in a shittle bay and dosnt want to evacuate non essential personnel to the enterprise? Wow... thats dumb
I always assumed it was a pride thing for the captain.
My god the engine thrum is strong in this video if you're wearing earbuds
Even without beaming over non-essential personnel, why didn't he separate the saucer section so it would not be near the warp engines section? Heck he could have left it on the Federation side and took the Engine section into the Neutral Zone to investigate, then he wouldn't have risked all the families. Did they forget about the separation thing?
That would've been smart to leave the saucer with all non essential personnel behind before hand. But, at this point, with all the system failures, they probably would be able to separate the ship and even if they could, the explosion from the secondary hull would most likely still destroyed the primary hull.
@@Whitestar901 he is talking about before entering meaning the saucer would not be contaiginmated
And then Yamato was refitted as a
Japanese Space Cruiser.
With a big wave motion gun
@@williamcase426 And guns only on the "top" side.
One of my favorite episodes. They should've done more with the Iconians.
I'm an old Star Trek fan--keep them coming! :)
😨My ship is randomly decompressing!
😐Oh, want to get some people off of that thing?
🤔....naaah. 💥
What’s wrong? Did a thousand voices cry out in terror and were suddenly silenced?
No, just a headache.
Oh my goodness!!! The Romulan Commander is the same one from Face of the Enemy....
indeed
Is that the one where they kidnap Troi and discuise her as a Romulan?
@@jockmcscottish7569 Yes
Same women but I don't think it was the same character on the show. The actress has played other people on Voyager and TNG as well.
Yeah, different character, both played by the excellent Carolyn Seymour. She can portray a devious Romulan commander like few others can.
God I wish he’d taken Riker’s suggestion of evacuation. 😢
a 5 minute scene from TNG better than the whole Picard series.
Not anymore
What destroyed the yamato?
"Plot contrivances"
The Yamato’s lithium ion battery management system must have had a design flaw. If I was the Enterprise I wouldn’t charge the ship inside, or to 100%.
It looks like the explosion was due to an overcharged Lipo...
Next time they beter should call Tesla Service to prevent that in the first place.
And definitely don't run it down to zero before you can back to a Starbase
Every Romulan response ends with a dire threat. They're that guy in a bar brawl that always runs his mouth a little too far.
DAMN IT TOYOTA RECALLED THE GALAXY CLASS MODEL AND THEY WERE USING DIAL UP INTERNET FROM AOL AND JUNO. AND ALL THE DISLIKES WERE ON THE YAMOTO
Now here they go to Red Alert just on order to raise shields. I was watching the old ST2 movie and there was comment about when/if the protocol changed. Kirk orders yellow alert which energizes only defensive fields around the bridge and brings weapons systems to 1/2 charge. By TNG this protocol seems to have changed but I don't recall instances where we can really delineate the difference other than by seeing the Yellow or Red bridge warning lights.
Good episode, but another prime example, that families should Not be on starships.
This was heartbreaking 💔
I like the music that plays when the Yamato detonates
They didn’t stay cloaked for long. The Romulans had messed around with that Iconian world too. Bad juju.
They didn't mess with the world...they did what the _Enterprise_ did: They tapped the Yamato logs, which contained the malware program that started to, like the _Enterprise,_ slowly work its way through their ship's systems. Had they scanned that probe from the surface, they would have been dead in short order.
Another fine example of why Starfleet vessels shouldn't have non-essential civilians on board.
They all accept the risks when they board the ship. Starfleet ships aren't typically warships. They're not intentionally putting themselves in danger. Galaxy class ships aren't Constitution class ships. They don't go on 5 year missions. Galaxy class ships are designed to be away from Earth and other Federation Planets for years, if not decades at a time. If they didn't bring their families, the crew wouldn't see them again for as long as an entire generation.
@@pepperVenge You're missing the point. The ship is falling apart, you should evacuate non-essential personnel. You don't sign up for excusable mistakes.
@@CatsClaw44 The Yamato was not falling apart at that moment. It just had a series of malfunctions, but the ships structure was fine. Life support was fine.
The worst that happened up to that moment was they lost 18 people in an accident. When Picard lost 18 people in his first encounter with a Borg Cube, did he stop everything to evacuate the rest of the ships personnel?
The containment failure happened suddenly, and shouldn't have happened at all.
Last: you completely missed my point. In space, on a starship, bad things can happen. The people on those ships accept that risk. If they weren't ok with that risk, they'd stay home. No one Forced them on the ship they die on. That was their choice.
@@pepperVenge That's right. Those newborn babies knew the risks.
@@robertmoore6149 Aren't parents stewards of their children? Are parents the one's who make the decisions for their children?
Okay...when the chunk of the Yamato flew right at the Enterprise I jumped!
It always feels like it directly bounced off the bridge.
Your ship flares up like an exploding sun. Khan Noonien Singh.
Avery Brooks "i was the first black man to be a captain in star trek history"
U S S Yamato Captain "Boi, am I a joke to you?!"
also before this one black FEMALE captain
Almost as crazy as a Dominion ship doing a kamikaze on a galaxy class
Other than the Enterprise-D, did any Galaxy-class starships appear in TNG (or DS9?) without getting destroyed in the same episode?
2:56 circumstances unfortunately permit us no pause for grief. But I do have enough time to record a log entry.
Yamato... Did the Federation ever name ships after WW2 German ships? How about the US Confederacy?
R.I.P. Leiji Matsumoto. ⚔️☠️⚔️
While I love TNG, I honestly thought this would be a 'Space Battleship Yamato', aka Starblazers parody. You get a like anyway :-)
"We're off to outer space. We're leaving Mother Earth
to save the human race.
Our Star Blazers."
Should have used the wave motion gun
This was a cool episode!
The loss of the Amato can be directly attributed to the gross criminal negligence of its captain. He should’ve been posthumously stripped of all ranking titles in court martialed in absentia
"You wanna evacuate anybody?"
Captain: nope
@@abny14 boom!
The title of the episode is "Contagion." The ship was disabled by a technological infection.
And the chief engineer, seriously he didn't think to just turn the ship off and turn it back on again?
@@PerryWhyte The chief engineer was already dead, he was amoung the engineering team that died in the shuttle hangar
What destroyed the Yamato? Perhaps the White Comet Empire.?☄️
Actually it's was the Americans who destroyed her back in World War 2. That or her Wave motion gun had a bomb attached to the barrel. 😂😂😂
0:51 _"We lost an engineering team...18 people."_
The number of people lost is horrific, but what would concern me more is who was lost. If they lost several top rungs of their engineering ladder, possibly-or-including the chief engineer, to that malfunction...
An Iconian probe. (TNG, "Contagion")
Hell of a name for a starship.
I love the Galaxy class but just think these ships were carrying 5 year old kids as well as non urgent adult personal
Should’ve ejected the warp core, but then again that only works 20% of the time
More like 0 percent of the time on the Galaxy Class. Even without Iconian glicthy software
As far as I can tell from the captains reaction through the distorted display, the bridge received no warning that a warp core breach was in progress.
Either that, or he just didn't give a sh..
Warp Core Ejection System has malfunctioned. 9 out of 10.
Ejection systems are offline! As usual.
I think it was an episode of VOY where a character was baffled that the warp core ejection failed. I was like "Really? Have we been watching the same show?!"
Riker even tried to prevent most of their deaths
This is eerily similar to a Kobayashi Maru type event.
It makes you wonder why Starfleet never installed transverse bulkheads across the ships which could be dropped down into place to create an airtight seal. If they did have them in place, the Enterprise might have been able to save some of those who weren't in the outer sections of the Yamato saucer section.
would not haver helped
@@Revkor We only see the hull burnt away, which would leave the inner areas habitable, if there were bulkheads to maintain the atmosphere
@@leeroberts1192 it wa a warp core breach and it was hot enough to vaporize the puterhull. they would have been cooked if not dead from the shockwave
@@Revkoras well as radiation.
Could of been the Enterprise which kind of reminds me of the Galaxy class ship the Dominion destroyed in DS9
right?
Indeed
Uss Odissey
Galaxy class is rather vulnerable
I remember as a kid I was like that could have been the Enterprise
I see the reflection of at least two lights from Picard's eyes not a large view screen . 2:21
“My Generals are Fools” Thats not the StarForce!!!!
I knew y’all were behind it.
Not sure why Captain Varley didn't have the ship's core shut down and restarted.
Or have the veritable fleet of shuttles available to a Galaxy-class deployed to tow the ship out of the Neutral Zone.
...unless, of course, he was too prideful...
seems they for got the reboot senario. shuttles might have been infected as well
Anyone now season and episode??
I found it strange they called a starship the yamato considering the real yamato was a battleship in the facist and cruel navy of the Japanese in ww2 .
Data certainly had a knack for stating the obvious, "No life readings...." Erm, I can see that Mr Data.
ICONIANS!!!!!!!!!!!
Looked like a self destruct
the Yamato was destroyed by Desslock and the Gamelons
I'm still wondering why starfleet's engineers and scientists were never able to fully develop a 'cloaking device' for its ships.
NJTDover : The reason. About 60+ yrs yrs ago in the ST TNG universe after The Federation and Romulan Empire signed an uneasy treaty of peace thus ending many yrs of conflict between both of them. In that treaty The Federation pledged never to invent or build any type of cloaking device for themselves.
@@herondelatorre4023 The real reason? Gene didn't like the idea. "Starfleet doesn't sneak around out there."
@@kereminde True. But what I said was from story line of a ST TNG episode where Commander Riker tells Captain Picard about a friend of his who was a high ranking Admiral now but a captain then who conspired with other starfleet officers to secretly build a cloaking device in violation of the treaty. Captain Picard's reaction was too arrest the Admiral who was onboard the USS Enterprise and to inform Starfllet Command of this conspiracy.
@@herondelatorre4023 I know, I'm familiar with the story. (Terry O'Quinn as our "insane Admiral of the week" sold it well.)
But with fiction there's always "the reason in the story" and "the reason in the writer's room". And in the case of the question of Federation cloaking devices... it's more because Gene did not approve, forcing writers to try to come up with reasons why.
The Treaty was a decent enough reason, it survives the "fridge logic" test. But... it doesn't hold up enough to sustained analysis.
Wouldn't be much to watch if the Enterprise was cloaked
I guess it WASN'T premature to be considering the evacuation of non-essential personnel...
Why no emergency beam out?
I loved that the solution was to turn it off and turn it back in again.
They also had to wipe the affected memory, and restore data to it from the protected archives.
@@jmk1975So reformat and use the recovery disk.
@@jamesk9321 Hopefully they were still under warranty.
Hurts my heart. I love the Yamato! Twin sister ship to the Enterprise.
The funniest thing is when they blew up a Galaxy class on DS9, the network got tons of angry e-mails "Why did they blow up the Enterprise?!"
@@BlazingOwnager DS9 was syndicated to individual stations, not on a network.
@@dalethelander3781 It was likely whichever the first to air it then. I'm citing sfdebris as my source, he's been proven reliable on this sort of thing. :)
@@BlazingOwnager The privelege of being the first to air ST TNG and DS9 in the U.S. went to then-independent KCOP 13 in Los Angeles.
If you were in Star Fleet years after the Galaxy class starships were introduced, the pride of an invincible fleet. Seeing its graphic destruction could be traumatizing, like witnessing 9/11. It’s not about the loss or craft and life but the damage to its perception of its classes pride, prestige and ego. The destruction of a dream.
Gamilas. Heard the name “Yamato” and hit her with a full salvo of beams and torpedoes.
Poor Yamato! No matter what Universe, it always seems to get blowed up.
"Congratulations! You're a red shirt."
"That doesn't necessarily mean I am going to-"
"-On the Yamato."
"Damnit!"
I think it was a good idea to downsize future starships like Enterprise-E, instead of this luxury-line starship
Enterprise D is listed at 642.5m, or 2,108ft long
Enterprise E is listed at 685.2m, or 2,248ft long
Bigger is not downsizing.
@@menacelurkingyet8345 You're talking length. The D had more mass and volume than the E, larger capacity for the human compliment of the D.
different mission profiles and attitude. Galaxy was meant for 10 year tours. for manpower and morale reasons they have civies on board. hence why the ship has the first fully functional saucer sep.
Galaxy was designed during peace and calamity with the Federation. It would have a design focused on luxury, comfort, and ideal transport conditions, with militaristic weaponry a far second thought to it.
Not enough love?
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They're cloaking their engaging device.
people died unexpectedly.. nahhhhhhhh.. we don't need to evacuate.. that would be premature... what the..
Damn...if you weren't killed by the blast, you were being sucked into space by a disintegrating hull and or being cooked in the deeper sections of the ship.
Women, children and men.
While the Yamato captain might have thought evacuation was "premature," the ship was destroyed 90 seconds after the offer was made. Nothing was going to save them.
but could have saved a portion of his crew
In the episode with the Binars, they evacuated the whole Enterprise in 2 minutes using transporters.
Tractor beam
0:20, how many decades is Geordi gonna need to put that back together
not remotely worth it. at least the ED sacuer was for the most part intact.
@@Revkor But the Enterprise saucer slammed into a planet surface like a Frisbee and skidding for miles before it stopped
too much rumble on the audio.. great scene though
@TVSins should do TNG
My money is on one of the toilets next to the torpedo room backed up and blew up. Jesus how many of the Starfleet crews were written to have corncobs up their asses?!
Oy!
No kink shaming!
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What was going on with the bridge lighting in the Enterprise? It was very harsh on folks' faces.