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The best thing about Hayden Christensen's performance is not Anakin showing his good or evil side. It's his huge internal conflict that's so well portrayed. For me, anyway.
And it’s always so crazy and sad how people that relentlessly hate the prequels and his performance try to attack that aspect of it. Whenever someone complains to me that he’s “whinny,” I roll my eyes and know that they just don’t understand it. You’ve got this hormonal teenager that’s supposed to basically be the greatest Jedi to ever live having this major internal conflict between good and evil. Born a slave, desperately seeking the father he never had until Qui-gon who freaking gets killed, that then gets manipulated by an evil mastermind who basically becomes his fake father figure. I don’t see how anyone could have done a better job at portraying that then Hayden did. And as you said, that internal conflict is so well done and one of my favorite parts of Star Wars.
Like after he killed the younglings and he’s standing on the bridge, crying but with a dead face. He regretted what he had done, but knew he was to far gone to change anything about it. Hayden’s facial expressions were powerful.
@@kalependlebury7387As tragic as it is, this is exactly how it was supposed to happen. To bring true balance the chosen one had to destroy both the Jedi and the Sith. (absolutely nothing happened after that, this is how the story ends period)
@@kalependlebury7387He had the loved of a good master, who considered him a brother. That's better than Billions. If he had to, he would have not strayed from the path
Something I found to be well done was the emotion Hayden Christiansen brings during Anakin's fall to the dark side. It's a very "This isn't what I wanted..." kind of vibe.
@@Anwelei I'm honestly proud that I always thought Hayden did an amazing job, I never understood growing up why people complained about him being "whiney" ..... Like that is the whole point lol.
The duel between snakin and obiwan was trained for by both actors for many hours and it was grueling training. The reason why they feel like they are so in sync is because of that. The speed is also unmodified that is just how fast they are striking with their lightsabers.
I don’t remember where but I saw in a interview that they used actual metal polls as the lightsabers and they literally had a dude with a stack of replacement “lightsabers” cause they kept on destroying the once they had during the shootings with how they were smacking things.
@@harrymillar4193 Yeah I know this, but I was using many hours as a definition of time. There are still many hours in a few days. We both know that Hayden and Ewan trained together for so long just for this one lightsaber battle that they basically became in sync.The fact that both of them are so well skilled they can move their lightsaber that fast is insane.
thats what the dark side can do, at the end, anakin dont even care anymore about Padme, he told her, "you and i can rule the galaxy". that moment is when you realize that when u use the dark side.. it just blinds you.
Hayden Christensen didn't get much love when this movie released but thankfully he's getting the love he deserved for so long now with the two Disney shows that released. Which you two could check out whenever.
I think all the kids who grew up during the prequels and clone wars era loved hayden from day 1. Only people who hated him were the grown manchild fans. Most toxic people thus far
@slothassasin1055 the star wars purists they were beyond toxic to the actor that played young Anakin but with that recent trilogy even they've learned to appreciate the prequel trilogy
@@Jason5818UI I do understand people do that to actors when it is the character that they do not like, they are playing a role, and the movie is directed and written by someone else. I do not like you Anakin or Jar Jar Binks in Episode I, the problem is not Jake Lloyd or Ahmed Best who plays them it is the writing and the directing that is the problem, in this case, George Lucas did both. I did not like the character but not because the actors mad a bad job, I believe they delivered what they were asked for by the dei I think it is Gorge Lucas that in large part the one you should critique if you do not like the prequels. It is sometimes the actor's fault that it is badly acted and it is not a fit for that part. But even then I would if the role not fit them part blame the makers of the movie that cast them. I do believe you can critique actors for taking some role like if the subject matter is very questionable or known things that are problematic about the maker of the movie. That is especially the case with established actors that clearly do not need the money .
I love the video of the convention he attended and he was brought to tears from everyone cheering for him. Must feel really good after getting shit on for quite some time.
@@slothassasin1055 Yes, i was about 11 when i first started watching Star Wars and fell in love with it. And i watched it 1-6 cause i wouldn't know to start with the 4th movie. As a kid i didn't see much issue with any of the characters. It was later i saw things differently and also got influenced by the masses to hate on Anakin. And Jar Jar. And though Anakin and the prequels got some cringe worthy moments, they're not that bad. I think about it this way now. Anakin is so detestable in the 2nd and 3rd movie because these movies show us the worst of him. In those movies we see him go through the worst that could happen to him. Ofc he would be awful himself. Which is one of the many reasons i love the Clone Wars series. There we get to see him as the amazing guy Obi Wan told Luke that his father was.
40:40 That is absolutely correct. In fact that’s why the Darth Maul/Qui Gon duel in Episode 1 is called “Duel of the Fates.” Anakin’s fate was sealed when Qui Gon died and wasn’t around to guide Anakin. That fight was ultimately about which path Anakin’s life would take.
@@nicolaimehrung442 yeah which makes 0 sense since Anakin wasn't needed for the plan to work. Simply the clone army. And that means palpatine would have been completely incapable of enacting that plan and start the clone war to kill the Jedi. He merely waited because he wanted Anakin on his side but he didn't need him.
@@nicolaimehrung442 basically, I guess. I just know that Dave Filoni discussed this at length with Favreau and others on “Disney Gallery: The Mandalorian” which is basically just a talk show after each new Mando episode.
I see this film like a greek tragedy, in which the character cannot escape their fate, no matter how hard they tried to steer away. Oedipus is great example
Anakin is very obvious with his religious story mirroring of the fallen angel lucifer. I am not very religious but it's practically shoved in your face and there was even a scene in Anakin's battle with Obi where they set up a shot to perfectly mirror the famous lucifer painting of him covering his face and crying.
@@Ronin.97 "The Fallen Angel" by Alexandre Cabanel. One of my personal favorites. Another interesting example: the shot of Obi-Wan and Anakin fighting with the lava behind them (where they're grabbing onto each other) is an almost perfect recreation of "Jacob Wrestling with the Angel" by Gustave Dore.
that's wrong. the piece was titled and made for the end credits and originally had nothing to do with that duel but Lucas used some cues for it in the climax when he edited the movie.
@@yeldarb1880 no, it's absolutely correct. The track was made for the end credits. The cues (none of which refer to a duel of fates) for the piece were sprinkled into the film. Filoni's story is a fabrication that he finds fitting.
@@mkplayz9596 Found the information. It comes from Williams music editor on Episode I Ken Wannberg. *Q: On the CD, is Duel of the Fates an album version or is that something that was actually done for a scene in the movie?* *Wannberg: It was written for part of the End Credits. What you're hearing on the CD is the way John wrote it. It was cut in various ways to work in the picture. *
The transformation from clone troopers to storm troopers actually happens over time. The clones are phased out and regular Galactic empire citizens take their place as stormtroopers.
I saw this movie when it came out. And I've recommended it to so many people since then. And yet, outside of people online, I still don't know anybody else who's watched it. It's honestly the perfect example of the "hidden gem." Every actor is perfectly cast. Every character is interesting. It's so damn entertaining that it makes you mad at other movies for not trying harder.
George Lucas showed that Padme and Anakin have some sort of link in the Force. Even though Padme isn't a Force-user, she's still sensitive to it. There are several shots of them exchanging glances over great distances and being in the same emotional state at the same time. Padme dies because while she was going through the pain of childbirth, she was also suffering the pain of Anakin getting the Vader suit surgically grafted onto him. And as Padme takes her last breath, Darth Vader takes his first. So The Emperor was telling the truth in a sense when he told Vader he killed Padme.
I’ve also heard that Palpatine was putting these nightmares into Anakins mind and was using the force to weaken/kill padme cuz she’s too much a distraction for him. This is an interesting interpretation tho too
I never understood why people had an issue with it. The droids say she's completely healthy and they can't explain why she's dying. It was obvious to me at the time that her death was due to the Force, literal space magic that medical droids wouldn't have a clue how to comprehend, much less detect.
@@radioactivetaco9579 It's not a fan theory, it was canon before Disney took over, remember, the way George tells these stories are very subtle, he's not going to put stuff in your face, there's many political, spiritual and metaphysical components to these movies that most people didn't understand because it's too much to cover in so little time. But the major clue was the story of Darth Plaguise The Wise, remmber what Palpatine told Anakin, Palpatine used the dark side of the force and their connection to drain Padme's life force and give it to Anakin because the truth is, Anakin was dying on that table, he had been burnt to a crisp and in actuallity, both him and Padme had died, but when Padme took her last breath, Vader took his first, that was Palpatine siphening her life force energy into his.
@@medatativemotivations7460 What is the official canon (now Legends) source for that? I've only ever heard it as a theory. Clues don't make it canon, they only lead to speculation.
Super cool you guys noticed that if Qui Gon was alive Anakin wouldn’t have turned. Qui Gon was the last of what really was a true jedi and perfect father Anakin needed. Something to notice that Qui Gon’s fight with Mail in episode 1 the music is called “Dual of the Fates” implying the outcome of that fight determines the fate of Anakin Skywalker
Not just Anakin’s fate, it’s so much more-the fate of the Republic, the Jedi, the Sith, and the entire Galaxy. That one duel, everything was on the line.
Anakin shows that there will always be Redemption granted within Logical Reason, Anakin was always a Good Person at heart He was just troubled & the only person to Guide him took advantage of that & Manipulated Him.
23:34 Very good insight. Short answer, yes he was waiting on Anakin. The war itself was used to slowly turn the public against the Jedi so they're "betrayal" would make alot more sense and be believable to the ppl. But he dragged it out wayy longer than needed because he wanted Anakin, as the cherry on top.
In this universe, when a droid does not get memory wiped every so often, they start to think differently. Outside of their original programming. R2 has NEVER been wiped and he is a much older droid so he has developed a human-like personality and thinking like the "good guys" he's always been with.
@@guintar6661 Annnd I always had a problem with that, because it makes sense to wipe both their minds as plotholes go it should be easy to not make them when you have the future already set. 3PO not knowing anyone in the OT makes sense... it didn't for 2/3 of this trilogy especially us learning he was made by Darth freaking Vader! Then the memory wipe line happens cool all is now forgiven, but why not wipe R2? He just keeps going with 3PO(which we recently learned R2 has his memories backed up😮) and ends up with the KIDS of Anakin the entire rest of the time and never says a damn thing? Like R2 was there as Lord Vader uses his iconic force choke for the 1st time and it's against Leia and Luke's mother! He don't ever mention any of this shit during all the time with Leia? I say her more so because he's with her far longer, the OT when he 1st meets Luke till Return is 4yr span total according to Wookiepedia and 19yrs with Leia as they were assigned under Bail Organa after this film hence why he was giving the instructions for them. Makes no sense why R2 never mentions a single thing and we know he's always been a personality of his own who speaks his mind but he acts like absolutely everyone is new to him in the OT. Ofc he should've acted like that using real world logic, but going back to canon logic having threepio mind wiped and not his seems an unnecessary decision that creates a potentially huge plothole. He KNOWS who "Lord/Darth Vader is says nothing ever, doesn't act like he know Ben, Yoda, I mean no "Threepio that's your creator!, Luke that's your daddy!, also your mom's killer! Man we had actually YEARS over a decade of adventures I helped him so much and saved his life so many times you can damn near say I'm the reason he's accomplished what he has today!"😂😂😂 I know I know that's what happens when you're over thinking it, but it doesn't make me wrong! And that's also the problems with doing prequels it usually always causes a plothole somewhere. Literally changing the line from "have the protocol droids' mind wiped" to "have the droid's minds wiped" fixes everything I said previously...
Good/sad thing about it is that 3P0 is the lucky one with the memory wipe. Had he kept his memory, he would've blabbed to Leia about her true parents and Anakin's downfall.
Qui-Gon was the father figure. Obi was the brother, but what Anakin needed was a father. So you're both right if he didn't die in the duel of the fates then Anakin's fate would be different. Also, Qui-Gon was probably the only jedi who understood that the jedi has lost their way- he would have taught Anakin better ideals that didn't restrict him, which makes him a more well-rounded person and not evil. Great reaction yall!
@@jaidenkoch3487 honestly I don't think it would've mattered...Anakin was always emotionally high risk and Padme is what caused Anakin to turn ...Qi Gon couldn't have stopped Anakin from falling in love with Padme
This is easily the best in the prequel trilogy. It has some pretty great battles, especially the final one. It definitely has a darker tone. And it’s great seeing how Anakin became Darth Vader.
Fun fact, and something I didn’t think about/notice till just now. The fight between Shin and Sabine in the first episode of Ahsoka was the first live action lightsaber fight between 2 women. Also, I never felt there was anything romantically going on between Ezra and Sabine, besides Ezra flirting with her when he first met her. That’s why I’m in the Sabine and Shin shipping camp, which would also be the first gay/lesbian couple on screen in star wars, and makes sense for those 2 characters, cause they’re both not very “girly”, and if Thrawn ends up killing Baylan for actually not killing Ahsoka off, Shin could very likely join Sabine and Ezra to get revenge on Thrawn, and/or continue Baylan’s cause in some way, depending on what that ends up being. And Sabine and Shin both have that rebelish, stubborn, and dark tendency nature, the latter Shin more than Sabine of course, so I think they could compliment each other well, learning a lot together and from each other. I don’t know if Dave would go there, but I’d love to see it, not for the sake of representation at all, which I don’t care about, but because it could actually make sense for the characters and the story.
I believe the counselors has their faults, if only they allow Anakin to be a Jedi master, only he wanted is to protect Padme, I think they treat him pretty badly, that's why the sith took advantage of that as well he was right, they don't appreciate him at all, after many years and he grew better, they didn't wanted him for a sec, I always hated the counselors of how badly they treat their Jedis.
I’m really impressed and it was cool to see how well you guys understood these movies. There’s so much subtle stuff that you guys picked up on, like Qui-Gon being the father figure that Anakin needed, where as Obi-Wan ended up being more of a brother. That absence of a father figure led to him being so attached to his mother and then Padme, and his fear of losing them. All of that all ties in to Episode 6 too, where it’s his love for his son that saves the galaxy
The thing i love about Anakin's fall is that his motives are perfectly reasonable. He didnt turn for power, but for love. A lot of like to believe we wouldn't do the same and many of us would not. But most people would do anything for love. Especially if you grew up like Anakin
You guys need to watch the Clone Wars, Palpatine's plans run much deeper than you think. It wasn't just about getting Anakin, it was about turning the galaxy agaisnt the Jedi and getting his enemies to take each other out.
It's also speculated that his(palpatine) ultimate goal was to control the galaxy and its resources to unite it as once for to could fight off the yuuzhan vong. From canon, it appears vong scouts have been found prior to or during the clone wars. In canon, Palpatine has also met with Thrawn already and gave him the permission to start and control another branch of the military to combat the vong when the time comes.
Also Obiwan knew about Anakin and Padme 's marriage He basically told him about him being in love and to make sure he understands his duty as a Jedi in the clone wars cartoon It adds to obiwan's sight at seeing Anakin killing Jedi on the holocron and hin crying when he was yelling at Darth Vader at the end of their duel
if only they kept these parts of the canon i fear we will never see the vong especially with what they are doing to thrawn right now in the shows.@@bobh5633
Fun fact: when Obi Wan was telling Padme about Anakin killing the younglings, the reason he covers his face was because he kept laughing whenever he was saying that line. Ewan McGregor really said "Fuck them kids"
Hands down, this is my favorite Star Wars movie. It's always tied with The Empire Strikes Back from time to time, but this one holds a special place in my heart. It was when me and my brother officially agreed, "Yeah Star Wars is awesome, screw what anyone says." People in our school looked at Star Wars as "geeky" or "nerdy" and anyone who likes that is lame. We didn't care. Then after watching the prequels growing up we found the Original Trilogy and man, that was a rollercoaster. Im thankful for those times.
I was in a similar situation growing up. I was teased and made fun of a lot in middle school for liking Star Wars. And now, liking it is trendy lol. I consider myself a Star Wars hipster.
You guys need to watch all 6 seasons of the clone wars animated show. It goes deeper into the relationships like Padme, Anakan, obi wan and even yoda and how the Jedi formed close bonds with the clones who get mind controlled to kill their friends. Then re watch this movie. It adds so much to the story!
I love the climactic lightsaber duel on Mustafar between Anakin and Obi-Wan. The music, the fight choreography, the special effects and the audio design were also top notch and hold up really well. It's supremely more tense than any of the other lightsaber duels. Also, the fight choreography between Hayden Christensen and Ewan McGregor is at real time. Not at all slowed down or sped up. They just got so good during rehearsals for the lightsaber duel, that they kept the speed of the movements in real time.
*- The problem with Anakin was his emotions, His emotions for the people he love made him very strong. But not being able to control your emotions can be very dangerous and can make you blinded by it and easily manipulated. Add being raised by Obi-Wan Kenobi that raised him like a friend and a brother. When Anakin needed a father like Qui-Gon Jinn.*
Except that the whole "needed a father" excuse doesn't really fly here quite frankly. Being a *grown-ass* 20-something year old man, it was *Anakin's* own responsibility to manage his emotions and discipline himself at the end of the day, not Obi-Wan's, not Qui-Gon's nor anyone else's for that matter.
@@alsimmons4504you fail to see the point, the boy needed a mentor. His whole life all he felt like was a piece of property because he was, then the Jedi treat him as poorly as Watto did when he was a slave. They treat him like an outcast and an other unless they needed to abuse his natural ability. Obi-wan was a good friend but had no true guidance for him, just overly critical and sarcastic like a big brother. The point is having someone who believes in you and wants good for you is important to a young boy. Anakin wasn't born 20, we watched him enter the order at like 8 years old. It was very much someone's responsibility to give him guidance.
@@Zabrakjedi *You* fail to see the *most important* point which is the fact that by the time Anakin became a grown man, he *already knew better* and was perfectly capable of controlling his emotions if he so desired. What happened to him as a kid didn't have to *define* him as an adult and most certainly didn't justify the cruel, heinous things that he did when he *allowed* himself to be lured into an impressionable state and manipulated by Palpatine/Sidious. And at the end of the day, it was *Obi-Wan* who was entrusted by Qui-Gon to watch over, train and raise the boy, not anyone else so even if Obi-Wan wasn't exactly "the perfect guidance" for him, he STILL knew more about being a Jedi than Anakin did so it would've been wise for Anakin to actually *listen* to Obi-Wan more often instead of nearly always butting heads with him. The *most vital* point to FOREVER remember here is that EVERYone is responsible for controlling/maintaining their emotional stability and discipline at the end of the day and what happens to you in childhood doesn't necessarily have to stay with you for all time either. I know what Anakin was born as, but he also didn't remain a 8-year-old child forever either now did he? He entered the Order at around that age which was considered *very* rare according to Obi-Wan which is *all the more* reason why he should've been a lot more receptive enough to pay attention to those who knew more AND did more than him while in the Jedi Order instead of being so arrogant, power-hungry and overly susceptible to his more negative/darker emotions.
@@alsimmons4504 that's a long paragraph to write to still be entirely wrong. Being an adult doesn't give you some magical foresight that prevents you from making wrong decisions. If you believe that, that's just laughable. There are people in the real world who dont do the right thing that are grown so what's your point. Thinking you know the character of Anakin better than how George Lucas described the situation is beyond arrogant. Another thing you forget all of what happened was entirely the will of the force the only way Anakin could balance the light and dark was first to take down the Jedi order which hadnt been walking the path of peace, they were incredibly flawed and even more morally ambiguous than the sith at this point in history.
@@Zabrakjedi That's quite funny considering how *your* comment is just as short as your train of thought. Nobody remains kids/children forever, sooner or later *EVERYONE* grows up eventually and Anakin Skywalker was no exception whatsoever in the slightest. And another thing that *you* obviously forgot to bear in mind is the fact that he *KNEW WHAT IT WAS LIKE TO BE A KID WHO WAS UNSURE OF ANYTHING AND EASILY FRIGHTENED AND FEARFUL OF CERTAIN THINGS* but yet STILL saw fit to commit the most (or one of the most) disgustingly heinous acts that a person could ever possibly commit: he *MURDERED INNOCENT, SCARED, FEARFUL AND UNSURE CHILDREN THAT HAD NO IDEA WHAT TO DO NOR WHAT WAS GOING ON.* You also tend to be one of the ones who read way too much into Anakin's supposed role as the "Chosen One" as well because simply put, what happened had virtually *nothing* to do with the "will of The Force" at all, it was Anakin's own emotional instability mixed with Sidious' manipulations that was the cause of Anakin turning against and taking down the Jedi Order who were the ones who practically *raised him* and gave him purpose and power, both things that he never ever had before as a slave on Tatooine. They were *intergalactic peacekeepers* so OFC keeping the peace *was* in their job description (duh lol 🤦🏽♂️). And even though they had their flaws, Anakin wasn't exactly "perfect" nor "innocent" himself and had already become even more of a headache for the Jedi than the Sith at this point in time plus the fact that *he* was the cause of their downfall and near extinction just pretty much sealed his fate in the absolute *worst* way imaginable as well. And in the case that *you* seem to be so adamant about claiming, then quite frankly, Anakin should've never EVER been taken into the Order to begin with and maybe he would've been far better off living life as a regular/normal person instead of a Jedi warrior.
I got the chance to meet Hayden in Toronto for the fan expo 2023 and literally life changing❤ I went for the handshake and he asked for a hug and literally melted my heart. His portrayal of Anakin was and still the reason Anakin is my fav character in Star Wars❤❤
I love that!! He's always come off as a great guy to me. As far as I know his daughter hasn't been allowed to watch Star Wars yet because he and her mother don't want her to see him portraying a villain
It’s always great to see ppl watching these movies for the first time. For me and most other Star Wars fans we grew up with it and it’s honestly hard to judge these movies without biases. But seeing grown up ppl watch it and get it like they read interpretations of the movie is cool to see.
Anakin’s overall turn to the dark side wasn’t quick, just his final push. Ever since the end of Episode I, Palpatine has been speaking to Anakin from time to time. Anakin alludes to this when he mentions Palpatine’s guidance. Plus, Palpatine’s been picking up on Anakin’s thoughts, simply because Ani never learned to be mindful about them and learn how to keep them to himself. Palpatine worked on getting Anakin gradually until he knew that the time was right to start the final pull to the dark side using Ani’s love for Padmé.
Order 66 is so much more emotional after growing up with the Clone Wars from 2008 to the final Season from 2021. Many of the Clone Commanders we see gunning down their Jedi Generals are actually characters from the show for example Commander Gree who ends up getting killed by Yoda. Not to mention many of the Jedi as well who were really backgrounded characters in the films but made into actually characters in novels, comics, and The Clone Wars tv series. The Jedi master who was shot down by his fellow Clones and crashed is Plo Koon a really beloved character who was so cool in Clone Wars and is actually the shows creators favourite Jedi so he special attention. The expanded Universe does go deeper into how the Clones were able to just turn on the Jedi like that after 3 years of servicing with them. There's two versions the old extended universe and the Canon. The Old EU explained that the Clones already knew about Order 66 with many even regretting there actions while most Clones were okay with going along with it with some Clones even down right hating the Jedi as many had bad experiences with just awful Jedi Leadership. There's even examples of Clones who went against Order 66 and tried to save Jedi. In the canon highlighted in The Clone Wars TV Series the Clones had Inhibitor chip implanted at birth. These would trigger at an order and in the case of Order 66 force the Clones to turn on there Jedi Generals basically brainwashing losing all train of thought beyond "Kill the Jedi". After a while the events wore off and many Clones were faced with what the done. There was still clones who were fine with it as they actually believed that the Jedi went against the Republic and others who were starting to question what happened. But not long after Order 66 the Stormtrooper program came into effect and the new Imperial leadership started to see Clones as tools of war rather than living humanoids. New enlisted humans started to join the Stormtrooper program and the Clones were offered the course of retiring with pay with many staying on to Train Stormtroopers. While some Clones fought against the Empire trying to help there Clone Brothers and that's all we really know, Bad Batch does into this so I do recommend watching that for more insight along with Clone Wars. I personally prefer the Inhibitor chip but I know there's people who prefer the idea that the Clones always knew and just went through with it. The video game *Battlefront 2* from 2005 actually covers this story showing the events of Revenge of the Sith from the pov of a Clone and after when the Empire came to the power and those same Clones become the first Stormtroopers. This came out in 2005 so before the Inhibitor chips were introduced in The Clone Wars TV series. So the game features the Clones actually know that they'll have to kill the Jedi one day.
@@indianwarlord6935ikr? 😂😂😂 In the desire of some people to tell everything they know, they do not care about spoiling the experience for others, so selfish 🤷🏻♂️
The Clone Wars neutered the impact of the betrayal by taking the decision out of the hands of the clones. It was better as originally designed which was a constitutional ordered invoked by the Chancellor that the Clones would be compelled to obey but not forced to obey...it became their decision to turn on the Jedi and made them the secondary antagonists they were mean to be. But the Clone Wars show couldn't abide by their heroes being willfully evil, no sir. Had to hedge the responsibility because the show had no guts.
@@indianwarlord6935 I mean the Inhibitor chip are deeply connected to so much more to other media as well than only Clone Wars so it's not really a spoiler. I don't get what element of Clone Wars I spoiled.
Vince has been all over this story and it’s lore like a champ. Shoshana has also, but Vince’s questions and predictions are some of the most intuitive among first time watchers. Vince, you should be a writer because you are able to piece together threads and plotlines with the best of them. Great Reaction, Ya’ll.
Fun fact, if you watch with headphones with heavy bass or speakers with bass. The part Vader was being put together theirs a heart beat. It beats while the suit is being put on. As the helmet is installed, the heartbeat stops. Then continues as soon as Vader exhales for the first time under the helmet. Symbolizing the death of Anakin/Padme and the rebirth of Darth Vader.
Makes you appreciate in Return of the Jedi when the Emperor said, "Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen." He had been setting this entire chain of events up since a bit before the Phantom Menace.
According to Star Wars lore, lightsabers can reach temperatures ranging from 18,000°C to 25,000°C. The average medium-sized blade is estimated to have a temperature of around 20,000°F. This extreme heat is what allows lightsabers to cut through almost anything, from stone to titanium
PS - Once you understand the difference between ray shields and deflector shields in the Star Wars universe, the lightsabers make a lot more sense. A deflector shield is angled to the direction of flight to keep solid objects (meteorites, debris, and other solid objects) from damaging the ship. But a ship that has ray shields up does NOT deflect solid matter... it can repel energy blasts, yet other ships and/or solid objects can pass right through them and dock. With Gungan ray shields, we watched energy weapons fire bounce off, but the droids could walk right through. We've likewise seen tie fighters launch from ships that have shields up. And we've seen (in this film) Anakin and Obi Wan land in a ship's hangar that had shields up during a battle. So a lightsaber relies on a ray shield shaped like a 'blade' to contain the plasma within. This is why lightsabers can repel other lightsabers as well as deflect fire from energy weapons. But solid matter (ie: an opponents arm) will pass through the outer shield and be severed by the incredibly hot plasma within. So energy will bounce off a lightsaber's projected shield, but matter will pass through and be obliterated. I'm actually surprised that nobody in the Star Wars universe wears some form of body-worn personal energy shields to protect against all the energy-based weapons.
Obviously you would think that with all the clones expert aim and battle experience that they would become the storm troopers but no. The Emperor gets rid of them that hire a bunch of people to be storm troopers. Shaken my head, they were this 🤏close to greatness
If you wanna know more about how sidious controlled the clones and how long he was grooming anakin I highly recomend you watch clone wars. Plus the ending is so so good I think it's some of my favourite star wars media. Also that wasn't leia at the funeral
Fun fact the ship we see Obi Wan and Yoda meet up with Bail Organa after Order 66 along with R2D2 and C3PO aboard at the end is the Tantive IV the same ship Leia was onboard in the opening of A New Hope. We also see a young Raymus Antilles who is told by Bail Organa to wipe C3PO's memory. Raymus Antilles was the Captain of the Tantive IV and the Rebel physically choked by Darth Vader in the opening of A New Hope when he boarded the Tantive IV looking for the Death Star plans. So this is a very important ship in Star Wars, also showed up in Clone Wars for fans of that show.
@@OrphanCrippler69bb Wait so why are you on a Star Wars reaction? lol I get that tbh there's alot of characters, ships, planets, items, and events that make non fans zone out. I was in a group call with my two friends and they started talking about Doctor Who and I just thought "No idea what there saying, maybe just stay silent until they finish talking"
Something I found neat that I learned from other people discussing it is that Sidious made his lightsaber with expensive and flashy materials to spite the Jedi since their lightsabers are meant to show some form of humility and are usually simple
The fact that you can hear the ''Across the Stars'' Melody when Padme lands on Mustafar, always gets me close to tearing up (you can hear it at 30:27 in this video) . Not just because it is my favorite SW soundtrack. Also because how the theme played in sad but also happy moments of their lovestory. It is always so bittersweet to listen to it.
I agree with your thoughts on Qui-Gon at the end. He needed a father figure in his life and while Obiwan cared about him, he just wasn't that, and Palpatine exploited it.
Hence the name of the song that went along with the Darth Maul Duel "Duel of the Fates". Meaning who ever won that battle held the fate of Anakin in their hands. Qui-Gon would have been the figure he needed. That would have shifted the balance towards the Jedi.
📌When Anakin killed Count Dooku, Palpatine said *"He's too dangerous to be left alive".* When Mace Windu was about to kill Palpatine, that's also what he said. This further emphasizes to Anakin the flaws of the Jedi Order.
Except one was an unarmed prisoner who had given up and another was a cornered but still dangerous enemy that was never going to surrender. not similar at all.
@@scottb3034 both were unarmed the fact is still that mace and palpatine used the same logic. Mace always looked down on anakin and he showed he wasnt different from the sith in some pretty serious spots
@@Maxxburn101 Sidious very much armed....did you miss the lightning shooting out of his hands? Dooku was kneeling, surrendered and unable to channel the Force because he lacked hands. Sidious was yelling Mace was going to die.... Self-defense and defense of the greater good is a just cause and moral reason to kill an enemy, murdering a pow isn't. Sidious was the former, dooku the latter. to insinuate they are the same at all is insane logic. that's like saying a soldier defending his country from an attacker with a bomb is the same as a soldier executing a pow who is severely wounded and has no weapons sitting before you just because they both said the same thing in reply. one is a crime the other is not. Anakin is a murderer, Mace is not.
Facts. There were only 3 people in Anakin's life who truly believed in him: His mom, Qui-Gon, and Palpatine. After Qui-Gon and his Mom's deaths, Palpatine was the only one left who would constantly tell Anakin that he could be greater than he currently was, while the rest of the Jedi order told him to hang back and slow down. The Jedi feared that Anakin would reach a power level so great he would be more powerful than them, so they held him back. Conversely, Palpatine always pushed Anakin to always be greater. We of course learn that Palpatine had ulterior motives in regards to Anakin ( obviously), but from Anakin's point of view, he got nothing but support from Palpatine, while he got nothing but roadblocks and timeouts from the Jedi Order. So basically he grows up with no father. Then Qui-Gon shows up, and becomes the closest to a father he had ever experienced at that point, and but then gets killed. Palpatine shows up, and portrays the same positive support that Qui-Gon gave him, which probably reminded him of Qui-Gon. Every chance Palpatine could get, he would always praise Anakin or compliment him, and tell him he will be the best Jedi there ever was. Nothing but praises, nothing but support, nothing but love, at least how Anakin probably perceived it. Meanwhile Obi-Wan, sat in the middle. He treated Anakin like his little brother, which was probably fine, but like the brother who was never trusted with anything. But the Jedi Order treated Anakin like Cinderella, undermining him when they could, grounding him when they could, gas lighting him, holding him back....never truly allowing Anakin to reach his full potential....because they were afraid of it. So when shit finally hit the fan, and Anakin had to make a choice between good and evil, the light side or dark side, the Jedi or the Senate, etc.....he ends up picking Palpatine. Because for Anakin, it probably wasn't about good or bad, light or dark, Jedi or Sith. It was a choice between the people who never accepted him as he truly was, and all his potential (Jedi Order); Or choosing the only person left that believed and supported him the way his Mom always did, the way Qui-Gon did, and that was Palpatine. So it's no surprise he ended up following Palpatine, because at the time it seemed Palpatine was the only who who had his best interest in mind. We later learn that Palpatine manipulated Anakin, maybe to a greater degree than the order, but from Anakin's point of view, it was as easy as siding with a family member over a stranger. He was the most gifted force user at the time, and just wanted to metamorphize into a Butterfly to spread his wings and fly. Palpatine was the only one still alive offering him a cocoon to do it. Had the order just let him spread his wings, he probably wouldn't have become Vader. But the Jedi Order feared Anakin, which caused them to treat Anakin like he was a stray cat. All that preaching they gave Anakin about how fear leads to the dark side, and at the end of the day it was the fear the Jedi Order had of Anakin that drove him away, towards the path to the Darkside....and that, I think, was the real tragedy. Ironic, isn't it?
I think Dave Feloni also said in an interview, that if Qui Gonn hadn't been killed, Anakin wouldn't have turned to the dark side. And that the music playing, while Qui Gonn fights Darth Maul, is named Duel of The Fates for that reason. Because all the Fates of the Galaxy were at stake in that fight.
I like your insight into Qui-Gon's role. Qui-Gon was also Dooku's former padawan, and Palpatine knew he was the anchor. I think Palpatine ordered Darth Maul to be sure Qui-Gon died, so that 1) Anakin would not have him to raise him like you mention, and 2) Dooku would no longer have Qui-Gon as a conscience. Dooku makes a comment to that effect when talking to Obi-Wan on Geonosis in Attack of the Clones. Dooku knew Darth Sidious was behind everything, and while Dooku didn't like how the Senate worked or how the Jedi went along with it, he didn't want to destroy everything and hand the galaxy over to the Sith. Qui-Gon was Dooku's last link to the light, and losing him left him appealing to Obi-Wan for help. Obi-Wan didn't have the connection that Qui-Gon had, and simply refused him out of turn. Remember that Palpatine had foreseen most of what happened, and knew it would ultimately lead to Anakin's corruption, removing the last threat to his rise to become emperor. As you saw in episodes IV-VI, Palpatine didn't foresee Anakin's child surviving, nor Luke being able to change him back.
I pisses me off soo many people have Hayden soo much hate for these movies. I have always liked these movies, I thought they were extremely underrated especially Revenge of the Sith. You guys should watch the animated series Clone Wars. It gives a lot more detail into the stories of literally everyone.
This has always been my point to make, as well. Hayden did a superb job portraying an extremely powerful, yet awkward teen/young adult prodigy. Most of us that have lived through the raging hormone years can attest to the cringe and dorkiness that time in our lives brings forth to the world. Personally, I was a mess, and Anakin had it worse than most of us with that "Chosen One" bullsh!t hanging over his head. Example: Even both ACTORS playing Anakin picked up hate for playing "The Chosen One".
Anikan was viewed the wrong way. Most everyone was either completely on his side, or against him. But ultimately, both palpatine and the council used him and didn’t even attempt to help him when it was obvious that he was having mental issues. Even though he didn’t open up to the council, all of them especially yoda are perfectly capable of seeing into the mind of one of their own.
The council actually couldn't completely because Palpatine was putting that dark side shroud over them, it's why they didn't know Anakin and Padme were together, they could only sense his strong negative emotions like his fear
Heres something to consider. Padmé was never was concerned that she might die. She never expressed a fear of dying or not living to see their children. And whenever any characters brought up her potential death Anakin said things like “I can’t live without her” “I won’t lose you the way I lost my mother.” His desire to save her was about him and his wants, not hers. If he’d ever once considered what she wanted he’d know she’d never want him to do terrible things and that she’d never be with him if she knew he’d done them.
OOH That's VERY GOOD. In all my days, and i was even in a STar Wars Fan club around this time, where we talked about these theories incessantly, NO ONE ever mentioned that or picked up that. Bravo!!
Being a Jedi doesn't require to be emotionless, although it does happen, it requires that you don't allow your emotions to blind you and your judgement also the stormtroopers were enlisted civilians, the clones stopped being used during the empire
Funny you should say that Obi-wan is detached from Anakin. It's far from it on this movie. And explored even more in the Clone Wars series. He always knew about Anakin and Padmé. Obi-wan even had a girlfriend, Satine Kryze and he was low-key clapping cheeks off camera 😂
The way I see it, Anakin is very good at compartmenting his feelings. Think of it like when you know what you’re about to do is wrong, but you’ve already committed to doing it. So you actively don’t think about the consequences. In this case Anakin has been hardened by three years of war and has decades of Jedi training that taught him how to compartment his feelings.
@@Timebomb_19 the first one he had no control over since he was away from home. And for the remaining he unknowingly ended up being the reason she died.
@@shootingreal5945Yoda straight up says "Careful when sensing visions of the future Anakin", not to mention the first vision came true, so yeah, there was enough proof that his visions would come true. The only thing Anakin could have done more was lend some thought into how it would end up there.
There is a popular theory among the star wars community that I agree with, that Sideous was not actually lying when he said to Anakin that he killed padme in his anger. That Anakin only survived because he inadvertantly used the force to take padme's life force and survive, hence why they couldn't figure out why she died.
@@JuliusNovak_ I'd argue it makes the most sense of any given how the movie was released. It explains EVERYTHING. >Why Sideous says Anakin killed her when otherwise he didn't >why the duality of Anakins operation when he's moaning on pain on the table and them operating to save the twins are shown at the same time in parallel action to one another (just learned that term for how it was edited lol) >why she dies at all despite no medical reason at a super young age. >how he survives such massive injuries. The human body can admittedly be resilient, but 3 limbs removed and fire scorching 90% of your remaining skin surface for as long as it takes for the fire to go out? Nah. Separately, sure these can be explained away, but this theory conveniently makes sense of all of them at the same time
@@fir3gaming664 >The reason why Sideous says he killed padme was to further manipulate/push his power further >Anakins operation took place over the course of a week or so they just sped it up for movie reasons >The reason padme died was bc Anakin almost killed her and she didn't want to live knowing Anakin did all those terrible things >The dark side has been able to keep people from dying from life threatening injuries, best example Darth maul and other sith from TOR All of what you said can be easily explained
@@JuliusNovak_ yes, I've said already it can all be explained separately but not nearly as neatly as that theory explains it. And that theory has far more proof then separate theories about them. What Sideous said could be explained away 10 different ways, because he constantly lies and tells mistruths. This is one of the only theories though that explains why padme died, Anakin barely did shit to her. All he did was choke her, so if she survived that breathing there should have been no lasting damage. Hell we get TOLD there is no medical reason for her to die. And even if you don't want to live you can't just spontaneously die when you feel like it with 0 medical issues at all. (Actually technically this is incorrect, there is something called broken heart syndrome, but that presents differently to how she passed) Also this theory would also BE Anakin using the dark side to drain padme, just inadvertently as a final ditch effort to survive. It also doesn't matter at all how long the operations took, what matters is why it was edited the way it was
@@fir3gaming664 Ofc it matter how long the operation took bc it shows how Anakin couldn't have killed padme, the length of the operation destroys the entire theory
It’s such a great ending and it had the best dialogue out of the prequels. I’m just sad George cut one of the best lines out of the movie. The scene where Obi Wan talks with Padme had a lot more. I don’t remember it exactly, but it amounted to him admitting he’s known for a very long time. While it went against everything he was trained in and was taught to believe, what Padme did for Anakin on an emotional level and the level of stability and happiness she brought him, he was content to keep looking the other way. Which goes to show how right Padme was to trust in Obi Wan should they need to lean on someone for help - he would have gone as far as he could for both of them.
40:33 True. Obi Wan was too inexperienced to train Anakin properly at the time, so Anakin looked for parental guidance elsewhere, and Palpatine took advantage of that.
I remember watching this for the first time in theaters and everything from the music to the acting, it was just so beautifully emotional. I still get in my feels whenever I rewatch! ROTS is definitely my favorite of the SW movies. That and tragic stories always gets me...Anakin and his desperation to save Padme, a whole self-fulfulling prophecy 😢
You guys need to see the clone wars series It’s an animated movie an then the series, expands on the lore of the prequels and adds a lot of context to how things ended shows Anakin at his best and links directly to episode III makes Anakin's fall sadder
I remember when this movie came out. I was a junior in college. I’ll never forget that opening scene, with those drums. There was a wispy sound as well that sounded like the AC unit in the Zigfield theater in Manhattan. The similar sounds and cold gentle air added such a realism to the entire experience. I remember I was completely dialed in to that moment. Thank you so much for your reactions !!
If Qui-Gon-Jinn (Liam Neeson from ep1) trained Anikan things would have turned out differently, he would have help'ed him with his anger problems and his attraction to the dark side. Obi-Wan tried his best but remember he only became a mster after Qui-Gon-Jinn died, he wasnt fully trained to pick up a padawan. thoughts?
Obi-Wan was also seen more like a brother and a friend than a possible father figure. It's why imo Anakin couldn't really respect Obi-Wan's authority at times and why he has this complex where he thinks Obi-Wan is constantly holding him back or that he's jealous of Anakin. It's easy to fall into that kind of mindset with a rival. With Qui-Gon I don't think that would've been a problem at all.
Only thing Padme could've said is that she'd rather die than see him join the dark side. I guess it's gonna happen anyways. This is actually my favorite episode.
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Here we go! I've been looking forward to you two getting to this one. 😊 This is easily my absolute favorite of the prequel trilogy, and tying for second with "The Empire Strikes Back" as my second favorite overall of all 11(originals, prequels, Rogue One, Solo, and sequels)the movies. Great performance by Hayden Christensen in this movie as Anakin Skywalker. And especially once we get his transformation into Darth Vader. The Mustafar scene from the lightsaber fight between Anakin/Vader and Obi-Wan to Obi-Wan's "you were the Chosen One" monolog...fantastically done by Ewan McGregor and Hayden Christensen. We find out here that Padmè is now pregnant with Luke and Leia. And we see how they are separated until they meet in "Star Wars: A New Hope". So happy to have finally seen your reactions for the prequel trilogy. I do highly recommend you two checking out the "Clone Wars" animated series on Disney+. Or at least, the "Clone Wars" animated movie. Looking forward to the next reaction 😊
You’re spot on. Qui-Gon was a bit different than other Jedi, but he was the father figure Anakin never had. The brotherhood relationship developed with Obi-Wan and Anakin, and knowing his upbringing, Anakin never had a father figure. The father figure than seeped into his life was Palpatine.
That look on Yoda's face when he catches Sidious' force lightning is one of my favorite parts of the movie. I can't even describe it... The look he had just says "I am more powerful than you think". RIP Master Yoda.
@@scottb3034Wrong in the book Palpatine is growing stronger and stronger by the second and Yoda once he falls knows he can’t compete against Palpatine and goes into exile.
Was so hyped for this. Glad yous recognised that Anakin was put in bad positions by the jedi and the sith. Pretty reasonable in why he did what he did, just gave into the dark side too much
Still remember watching Episode 3 in the UK back in 2005 for my birthday (may 4th) and I’ll never forget the drumming at the start of the film when the interceptors are flying past the Venator.
It’s always been like a beam of plasma able to cut through anything, it’s just that the sequel trilogy and Disney don’t know how to use lightsabers and makes them seem like actual swords. In the force awakens they seem alot weaker, I’m not a Star Wars expertece but there was some change and people weren’t happy about it.
I like the comparison of hard dedication and work vs pure innate talent. Obiwon is the epitome of someone who may not have innate talent, but he's clearly worked hard to get here. I think it's what really pays into his discipline and emotional control. He has had to WORK to be a successful Jedi Versus Anakin who clearly is talented. Being a Jedi and the powers with it have obviously come naturally to him which i think plays into how emotional he is. He doesn't really have to try as hard to be strong as a Jedi, so the emotional discipline is something easy to fudge his way through during training. It didn't work in the end which is why he was able to be turned with his fear of losing those he loves (and the counsel's fear of his power)
I see the argument , but Obi Wan (and Windu) clearly had massive talent compared to many other colleagues that worked as hard and were as dedicated . Anakin was just on another scale raw talent wise
"One often meets his fate on the path he takes to avoid it" Anakin turned to the darkside because he thought it could help him save Padme but it ended up corrupting him so he killed her.
Anakin didn't show up with the intention of joining Palpatine aa a sith when windu was fighting him. He only wanted to make sure windu didn't kill him.
Having watched the OG trilogy and prequel trilogy at least 100x I will never not get emotional watching them. Everyone has their thoughts on what the think should have happened but in the end we all enjoy them. Thanks guys ❤
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I’m literally waiting for the moment it drops, you guys are my favorite reactors and Star Wars is my personal favorite saga so this should be great😊
Before they hop onto Star wars episode 4 a new hope they got to watch rogue one a Star wars story and then watch Han Solo movie
@@cooleybeboolinbefore they happen on episode 4 they got to watch rogue one a Star wars story and then watch Han Solo movie
@@tyronesingleton2494they’ve already seen episode 4, the original trilogy reactions have all been up on RUclips for a while
@@tyronesingleton2494 they started with the original trilogy lol
The best thing about Hayden Christensen's performance is not Anakin showing his good or evil side. It's his huge internal conflict that's so well portrayed. For me, anyway.
And it’s always so crazy and sad how people that relentlessly hate the prequels and his performance try to attack that aspect of it. Whenever someone complains to me that he’s “whinny,” I roll my eyes and know that they just don’t understand it. You’ve got this hormonal teenager that’s supposed to basically be the greatest Jedi to ever live having this major internal conflict between good and evil. Born a slave, desperately seeking the father he never had until Qui-gon who freaking gets killed, that then gets manipulated by an evil mastermind who basically becomes his fake father figure. I don’t see how anyone could have done a better job at portraying that then Hayden did. And as you said, that internal conflict is so well done and one of my favorite parts of Star Wars.
all new people, people born after 2000 always say they like this one the most@@dillonspear542
OMG so true man my dude was suffering in every aspect of his life.@@dillonspear542
Like after he killed the younglings and he’s standing on the bridge, crying but with a dead face. He regretted what he had done, but knew he was to far gone to change anything about it. Hayden’s facial expressions were powerful.
Omg Thank you!
Doesn't matter how many times I watch this movie, "you were my brother, Anakin... I loved you" breaks me every time.
Beautiful and also explains why it happened... Anakin needed a father, not a brother! Damn you Darth Maul for killing Qui Gon
@@kalependlebury7387As tragic as it is, this is exactly how it was supposed to happen.
To bring true balance the chosen one had to destroy both the Jedi and the Sith.
(absolutely nothing happened after that, this is how the story ends period)
@@kalependlebury7387He had the loved of a good master, who considered him a brother. That's better than Billions. If he had to, he would have not strayed from the path
Something I found to be well done was the emotion Hayden Christiansen brings during Anakin's fall to the dark side. It's a very "This isn't what I wanted..." kind of vibe.
The older I get the more I appreciate Hayden’s performance, especially how young he was.
@@Anwelei George Lucas wants his Star Wars fans to show how Anakin transform to be Darth Vader since original trilogy has been out
@@Anwelei I'm honestly proud that I always thought Hayden did an amazing job, I never understood growing up why people complained about him being "whiney" ..... Like that is the whole point lol.
I have the same expression when they get my order wrong in a restaurant
@@MrJames1034 Damn, that's intense
Padmes last words: “There’s good in him”
Anakins last words: “You were right”
Dam
Anakin*
It's like poetry it rhymes
I HATE YOU
Actually her last words were "aahahaaahhaaaahhh"
The duel between snakin and obiwan was trained for by both actors for many hours and it was grueling training. The reason why they feel like they are so in sync is because of that. The speed is also unmodified that is just how fast they are striking with their lightsabers.
I don’t remember where but I saw in a interview that they used actual metal polls as the lightsabers and they literally had a dude with a stack of replacement “lightsabers” cause they kept on destroying the once they had during the shootings with how they were smacking things.
‘Hours’? That fight took DAYS to film and Hayden did years of lightsaber choreography for his roles over the franchise.
@@harrymillar4193 Yeah I know this, but I was using many hours as a definition of time. There are still many hours in a few days. We both know that Hayden and Ewan trained together for so long just for this one lightsaber battle that they basically became in sync.The fact that both of them are so well skilled they can move their lightsaber that fast is insane.
They said it took months to learn
It’s actually slowed down a little because they were so fast at it.
Anakin acting out of fear of losing Padme ultimately made his fears a reality.
"One often meets destiny on the road he takes to avoid it"
-a turtle
thats what the dark side can do, at the end, anakin dont even care anymore about Padme, he told her, "you and i can rule the galaxy". that moment is when you realize that when u use the dark side.. it just blinds you.
@@timogeerties3487 a slow green creature
@@timogeerties3487 a slow green creature
@@lgchamp1999 peaches, not peaches...
Hayden Christensen didn't get much love when this movie released but thankfully he's getting the love he deserved for so long now with the two Disney shows that released. Which you two could check out whenever.
I think all the kids who grew up during the prequels and clone wars era loved hayden from day 1. Only people who hated him were the grown manchild fans. Most toxic people thus far
@slothassasin1055 the star wars purists they were beyond toxic to the actor that played young Anakin but with that recent trilogy even they've learned to appreciate the prequel trilogy
@@Jason5818UI I do understand people do that to actors when it is the character that they do not like, they are playing a role, and the movie is directed and written by someone else. I do not like you Anakin or Jar Jar Binks in Episode I, the problem is not Jake Lloyd or Ahmed Best who plays them it is the writing and the directing that is the problem, in this case, George Lucas did both. I did not like the character but not because the actors mad a bad job, I believe they delivered what they were asked for by the dei I think it is Gorge Lucas that in large part the one you should critique if you do not like the prequels.
It is sometimes the actor's fault that it is badly acted and it is not a fit for that part. But even then I would if the role not fit them part blame the makers of the movie that cast them.
I do believe you can critique actors for taking some role like if the subject matter is very questionable or known things that are problematic about the maker of the movie. That is especially the case with established actors that clearly do not need the money .
I love the video of the convention he attended and he was brought to tears from everyone cheering for him. Must feel really good after getting shit on for quite some time.
@@slothassasin1055 Yes, i was about 11 when i first started watching Star Wars and fell in love with it. And i watched it 1-6 cause i wouldn't know to start with the 4th movie. As a kid i didn't see much issue with any of the characters. It was later i saw things differently and also got influenced by the masses to hate on Anakin. And Jar Jar. And though Anakin and the prequels got some cringe worthy moments, they're not that bad.
I think about it this way now. Anakin is so detestable in the 2nd and 3rd movie because these movies show us the worst of him. In those movies we see him go through the worst that could happen to him. Ofc he would be awful himself. Which is one of the many reasons i love the Clone Wars series. There we get to see him as the amazing guy Obi Wan told Luke that his father was.
I don’t care what anyone says, this is my favorite Star Wars movie 🤘🏽 So damn quotable!
So many good memes still used today that came from this movie 😅😊
I swear this movie is just nonstop memes lmfao
@@sourcesymbiosismetamorphis2228 sometimes it's just meme after meme after meme...
Same
@@MiguelStinson88there’s always a bigger meme
Hayden thought everyone hated him, but all he had to do was wait for the people who love him to grow older
His acting is cringe tho
@@Alpaslann nah
@@Alpaslann i'd like to see you do better
@@Alpaslann George Lucas CANNOT write, Hayden was just doing what Lucas was telling him to
@@Alpaslann no the writing is cringe
Watching non star wars people watch them and enjoy the same stuff as the rest of us brings my heart actual joy, this is awesome.
40:40 That is absolutely correct. In fact that’s why the Darth Maul/Qui Gon duel in Episode 1 is called “Duel of the Fates.” Anakin’s fate was sealed when Qui Gon died and wasn’t around to guide Anakin. That fight was ultimately about which path Anakin’s life would take.
Wrong. the track wasn't even written for that part of the film. Lucas just moved some cues there after, during editing.
So we assume in this scenario that Palpatine's manipulation would have failed anyway and Qui-Gon would have seen and stopped it?
@@nicolaimehrung442 yeah which makes 0 sense since Anakin wasn't needed for the plan to work. Simply the clone army. And that means palpatine would have been completely incapable of enacting that plan and start the clone war to kill the Jedi. He merely waited because he wanted Anakin on his side but he didn't need him.
@@scottb3034 cool behind the scenes info, but doesn’t change what the final result was
@@nicolaimehrung442 basically, I guess. I just know that Dave Filoni discussed this at length with Favreau and others on “Disney Gallery: The Mandalorian” which is basically just a talk show after each new Mando episode.
I see this film like a greek tragedy, in which the character cannot escape their fate, no matter how hard they tried to steer away. Oedipus is great example
yeah succession series as well.
Anakin is very obvious with his religious story mirroring of the fallen angel lucifer. I am not very religious but it's practically shoved in your face and there was even a scene in Anakin's battle with Obi where they set up a shot to perfectly mirror the famous lucifer painting of him covering his face and crying.
@@Ronin.97 "The Fallen Angel" by Alexandre Cabanel. One of my personal favorites. Another interesting example: the shot of Obi-Wan and Anakin fighting with the lava behind them (where they're grabbing onto each other) is an almost perfect recreation of "Jacob Wrestling with the Angel" by Gustave Dore.
just like guts from berserk or eren from attack on titan
Highly unlikely this pair will be familiar with any Greek tragedy! 🙄
You nailed it at the end with qui gon. That's why the music when he fought maul was called the duel of fates. It was the fate of anakin.
that's wrong. the piece was titled and made for the end credits and originally had nothing to do with that duel but Lucas used some cues for it in the climax when he edited the movie.
@@scottb3034that's wrong
@@yeldarb1880 no, it's absolutely correct. The track was made for the end credits. The cues (none of which refer to a duel of fates) for the piece were sprinkled into the film. Filoni's story is a fabrication that he finds fitting.
@@scottb3034where did you learning that I’m not calling you wrong I’m just wondering
@@mkplayz9596 Found the information. It comes from Williams music editor on Episode I Ken Wannberg.
*Q: On the CD, is Duel of the Fates an album version or is that something that was actually done for a scene in the movie?*
*Wannberg: It was written for part of the End Credits. What you're hearing on the CD is the way John wrote it. It was cut in various ways to work in the picture. *
The transformation from clone troopers to storm troopers actually happens over time. The clones are phased out and regular Galactic empire citizens take their place as stormtroopers.
I saw this movie when it came out. And I've recommended it to so many people since then. And yet, outside of people online, I still don't know anybody else who's watched it. It's honestly the perfect example of the "hidden gem." Every actor is perfectly cast. Every character is interesting. It's so damn entertaining that it makes you mad at other movies for not trying harder.
Love this comment.
George Lucas showed that Padme and Anakin have some sort of link in the Force. Even though Padme isn't a Force-user, she's still sensitive to it. There are several shots of them exchanging glances over great distances and being in the same emotional state at the same time.
Padme dies because while she was going through the pain of childbirth, she was also suffering the pain of Anakin getting the Vader suit surgically grafted onto him. And as Padme takes her last breath, Darth Vader takes his first. So The Emperor was telling the truth in a sense when he told Vader he killed Padme.
I’ve also heard that Palpatine was putting these nightmares into Anakins mind and was using the force to weaken/kill padme cuz she’s too much a distraction for him. This is an interesting interpretation tho too
I never understood why people had an issue with it. The droids say she's completely healthy and they can't explain why she's dying. It was obvious to me at the time that her death was due to the Force, literal space magic that medical droids wouldn't have a clue how to comprehend, much less detect.
@@andreja9425That's just a fan theory AFAIK
@@radioactivetaco9579 It's not a fan theory, it was canon before Disney took over, remember, the way George tells these stories are very subtle, he's not going to put stuff in your face, there's many political, spiritual and metaphysical components to these movies that most people didn't understand because it's too much to cover in so little time. But the major clue was the story of Darth Plaguise The Wise, remmber what Palpatine told Anakin, Palpatine used the dark side of the force and their connection to drain Padme's life force and give it to Anakin because the truth is, Anakin was dying on that table, he had been burnt to a crisp and in actuallity, both him and Padme had died, but when Padme took her last breath, Vader took his first, that was Palpatine siphening her life force energy into his.
@@medatativemotivations7460 What is the official canon (now Legends) source for that? I've only ever heard it as a theory. Clues don't make it canon, they only lead to speculation.
A worthy end to the prequel trilogy
Even after years, it's one of the best prequels ever.
Just finished this reaction and was about to comment but you summed it up
To a crap Trilogy, George Lucas should of just kept the original trilogy
@@thereisnopandemic And you should just keep your mind-numbing opinion to yourself.
@@thereisnopandemicyour dumb
Super cool you guys noticed that if Qui Gon was alive Anakin wouldn’t have turned. Qui Gon was the last of what really was a true jedi and perfect father Anakin needed. Something to notice that Qui Gon’s fight with Mail in episode 1 the music is called “Dual of the Fates” implying the outcome of that fight determines the fate of Anakin Skywalker
Not just Anakin’s fate, it’s so much more-the fate of the Republic, the Jedi, the Sith, and the entire Galaxy. That one duel, everything was on the line.
Duel*
Great point, never thought about that. George really was a genius.
And the fact that is explicitly stated in the canon book “Skywalker: A family at war”, Anakin would’ve never turned if Qui Gon had trained him😢
Need a what if scenario where Qui Gon wins against Maul
Anakin skywalker is important because it gives people hope and gives people that have had similar experiences in their lives to relate to
Anakin shows that there will always be Redemption granted within Logical Reason, Anakin was always a Good Person at heart He was just troubled & the only person to Guide him took advantage of that & Manipulated Him.
Actually should be a reflection of what arrogance can lead to.
23:34 Very good insight. Short answer, yes he was waiting on Anakin. The war itself was used to slowly turn the public against the Jedi so they're "betrayal" would make alot more sense and be believable to the ppl. But he dragged it out wayy longer than needed because he wanted Anakin, as the cherry on top.
In this universe, when a droid does not get memory wiped every so often, they start to think differently. Outside of their original programming. R2 has NEVER been wiped and he is a much older droid so he has developed a human-like personality and thinking like the "good guys" he's always been with.
R2 did get wiped no? At the end of this movie.
@@observeNaturalevolutionno he only says to wipe the protocol droid's memory. That's 3PO
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Annnd I always had a problem with that, because it makes sense to wipe both their minds as plotholes go it should be easy to not make them when you have the future already set. 3PO not knowing anyone in the OT makes sense... it didn't for 2/3 of this trilogy especially us learning he was made by Darth freaking Vader! Then the memory wipe line happens cool all is now forgiven, but why not wipe R2? He just keeps going with 3PO(which we recently learned R2 has his memories backed up😮) and ends up with the KIDS of Anakin the entire rest of the time and never says a damn thing? Like R2 was there as Lord Vader uses his iconic force choke for the 1st time and it's against Leia and Luke's mother! He don't ever mention any of this shit during all the time with Leia? I say her more so because he's with her far longer, the OT when he 1st meets Luke till Return is 4yr span total according to Wookiepedia and 19yrs with Leia as they were assigned under Bail Organa after this film hence why he was giving the instructions for them. Makes no sense why R2 never mentions a single thing and we know he's always been a personality of his own who speaks his mind but he acts like absolutely everyone is new to him in the OT. Ofc he should've acted like that using real world logic, but going back to canon logic having threepio mind wiped and not his seems an unnecessary decision that creates a potentially huge plothole. He KNOWS who "Lord/Darth Vader is says nothing ever, doesn't act like he know Ben, Yoda, I mean no "Threepio that's your creator!, Luke that's your daddy!, also your mom's killer! Man we had actually YEARS over a decade of adventures I helped him so much and saved his life so many times you can damn near say I'm the reason he's accomplished what he has today!"😂😂😂
I know I know that's what happens when you're over thinking it, but it doesn't make me wrong! And that's also the problems with doing prequels it usually always causes a plothole somewhere. Literally changing the line from "have the protocol droids' mind wiped" to "have the droid's minds wiped" fixes everything I said previously...
I was going to mention this along with the fact that Anakin tinkered with R2 quite a bit, hence the "No loose wire jokes" line.
Good/sad thing about it is that 3P0 is the lucky one with the memory wipe. Had he kept his memory, he would've blabbed to Leia about her true parents and Anakin's downfall.
Qui-Gon was the father figure. Obi was the brother, but what Anakin needed was a father. So you're both right if he didn't die in the duel of the fates then Anakin's fate would be different. Also, Qui-Gon was probably the only jedi who understood that the jedi has lost their way- he would have taught Anakin better ideals that didn't restrict him, which makes him a more well-rounded person and not evil. Great reaction yall!
He also disagreed with the council all the time.
@@Barrikade6971but the council was right even as a child Anakin was a liability and emotionally unstable
@@Jason5818UIyes that’s why he needed someone like qui-gon to teach and guide him
@@Jason5818UIand because of their fear for what he could become made him into it
@@jaidenkoch3487 honestly I don't think it would've mattered...Anakin was always emotionally high risk and Padme is what caused Anakin to turn ...Qi Gon couldn't have stopped Anakin from falling in love with Padme
This is easily the best in the prequel trilogy. It has some pretty great battles, especially the final one. It definitely has a darker tone. And it’s great seeing how Anakin became Darth Vader.
Fun fact, and something I didn’t think about/notice till just now. The fight between Shin and Sabine in the first episode of Ahsoka was the first live action lightsaber fight between 2 women. Also, I never felt there was anything romantically going on between Ezra and Sabine, besides Ezra flirting with her when he first met her. That’s why I’m in the Sabine and Shin shipping camp, which would also be the first gay/lesbian couple on screen in star wars, and makes sense for those 2 characters, cause they’re both not very “girly”, and if Thrawn ends up killing Baylan for actually not killing Ahsoka off, Shin could very likely join Sabine and Ezra to get revenge on Thrawn, and/or continue Baylan’s cause in some way, depending on what that ends up being. And Sabine and Shin both have that rebelish, stubborn, and dark tendency nature, the latter Shin more than Sabine of course, so I think they could compliment each other well, learning a lot together and from each other. I don’t know if Dave would go there, but I’d love to see it, not for the sake of representation at all, which I don’t care about, but because it could actually make sense for the characters and the story.
"You were my brother, Anakin" Obi-wan and Anakin's relationship is so tragic
I believe the counselors has their faults, if only they allow Anakin to be a Jedi master, only he wanted is to protect Padme, I think they treat him pretty badly, that's why the sith took advantage of that as well he was right, they don't appreciate him at all, after many years and he grew better, they didn't wanted him for a sec, I always hated the counselors of how badly they treat their Jedis.
I’m really impressed and it was cool to see how well you guys understood these movies. There’s so much subtle stuff that you guys picked up on, like Qui-Gon being the father figure that Anakin needed, where as Obi-Wan ended up being more of a brother. That absence of a father figure led to him being so attached to his mother and then Padme, and his fear of losing them. All of that all ties in to Episode 6 too, where it’s his love for his son that saves the galaxy
Yeah. I mean most people (usually the ones calling these films bad) somehow miss it, yet these two pick it up on first viewing. Strange huh?
I 100% agree. I was blown away at how much these guys understand the franchise even on a first watch.
@@Jiub_SNit’s because they don’t WANT to see it lol. It’s usually boomers that were kids when the ot came out.
The thing i love about Anakin's fall is that his motives are perfectly reasonable. He didnt turn for power, but for love.
A lot of like to believe we wouldn't do the same and many of us would not. But most people would do anything for love. Especially if you grew up like Anakin
He did it at first for love but in the end the dark side corrupted him into choosing power over love, which is the greatest tragedy
I get it
But there’s no universe where I would murder dozens of children for the potential chance to save my lover.
I hope nobody would.
That's why I can't judge him cos I would do the same if it meant saving ma girls life
@@wearywanderer7018you don’t control the dark side. It takes control of you. It’s like the one ring from Lord of the Rings.
Perfectly said, I've had to explain this to so many people and they don't get it.
It’s like a Shakespearean tragedy. Poetic symmetry. So powerful. I hope you guys watch the OBI WON series next. It’s next in timeline.
also very much mirrors the story of lucifer the fallen angel
"It's like poetry... it rhymes" - George Lucas
I don’t think they’re following the timeline, just movie/show release
I’m pretty sure jedi fallen order actually happens before
@xhadbailey7038 - Yeah, I would advise skipping the Obi Wan series. That series is almost as insulting as the last season of GoT.
You guys need to watch the Clone Wars, Palpatine's plans run much deeper than you think. It wasn't just about getting Anakin, it was about turning the galaxy agaisnt the Jedi and getting his enemies to take each other out.
Taking control of the banks
Highly doubt they’ll watch a show as long as Clone Wars
It's also speculated that his(palpatine) ultimate goal was to control the galaxy and its resources to unite it as once for to could fight off the yuuzhan vong. From canon, it appears vong scouts have been found prior to or during the clone wars. In canon, Palpatine has also met with Thrawn already and gave him the permission to start and control another branch of the military to combat the vong when the time comes.
Also Obiwan knew about Anakin and Padme 's marriage
He basically told him about him being in love and to make sure he understands his duty as a Jedi in the clone wars cartoon
It adds to obiwan's sight at seeing Anakin killing Jedi on the holocron and hin crying when he was yelling at Darth Vader at the end of their duel
if only they kept these parts of the canon i fear we will never see the vong especially with what they are doing to thrawn right now in the shows.@@bobh5633
Watching this over always makes my eyes watery… it’s the dust in the air I swear!🤧 Always great to see the reaction of new fans to this film.🤙🏼
As an old school Star Wars head, it's so cool to get to see young people discover it. Thanks for sharing this.
Fun fact: when Obi Wan was telling Padme about Anakin killing the younglings, the reason he covers his face was because he kept laughing whenever he was saying that line. Ewan McGregor really said "Fuck them kids"
Actually he saw someone in the back ground made him laugh
Story goes, Obi was in the background watching Anakin fighting the younglings😂
@@carlos00700He did not join him or stop him. 😂
Love these little fun facts 😭😂
Whenever I see the fight between Sidious and Yoda, I always get chills. Especially that wide shot when the platform rises and they are fighting.
Hands down, this is my favorite Star Wars movie. It's always tied with The Empire Strikes Back from time to time, but this one holds a special place in my heart. It was when me and my brother officially agreed, "Yeah Star Wars is awesome, screw what anyone says." People in our school looked at Star Wars as "geeky" or "nerdy" and anyone who likes that is lame. We didn't care. Then after watching the prequels growing up we found the Original Trilogy and man, that was a rollercoaster. Im thankful for those times.
I was in a similar situation growing up. I was teased and made fun of a lot in middle school for liking Star Wars. And now, liking it is trendy lol. I consider myself a Star Wars hipster.
You guys need to watch all 6 seasons of the clone wars animated show. It goes deeper into the relationships like Padme, Anakan, obi wan and even yoda and how the Jedi formed close bonds with the clones who get mind controlled to kill their friends. Then re watch this movie. It adds so much to the story!
I saw this when it came out in 2005. I was 12. My dad took me and I remember knowing the plot but the way it was portrayed had me hooked immediately.
I love the climactic lightsaber duel on Mustafar between Anakin and Obi-Wan. The music, the fight choreography, the special effects and the audio design were also top notch and hold up really well. It's supremely more tense than any of the other lightsaber duels. Also, the fight choreography between Hayden Christensen and Ewan McGregor is at real time. Not at all slowed down or sped up. They just got so good during rehearsals for the lightsaber duel, that they kept the speed of the movements in real time.
*- The problem with Anakin was his emotions, His emotions for the people he love made him very strong. But not being able to control your emotions can be very dangerous and can make you blinded by it and easily manipulated. Add being raised by Obi-Wan Kenobi that raised him like a friend and a brother. When Anakin needed a father like Qui-Gon Jinn.*
Except that the whole "needed a father" excuse doesn't really fly here quite frankly. Being a *grown-ass* 20-something year old man, it was *Anakin's* own responsibility to manage his emotions and discipline himself at the end of the day, not Obi-Wan's, not Qui-Gon's nor anyone else's for that matter.
@@alsimmons4504you fail to see the point, the boy needed a mentor. His whole life all he felt like was a piece of property because he was, then the Jedi treat him as poorly as Watto did when he was a slave. They treat him like an outcast and an other unless they needed to abuse his natural ability. Obi-wan was a good friend but had no true guidance for him, just overly critical and sarcastic like a big brother. The point is having someone who believes in you and wants good for you is important to a young boy. Anakin wasn't born 20, we watched him enter the order at like 8 years old. It was very much someone's responsibility to give him guidance.
@@Zabrakjedi *You* fail to see the *most important* point which is the fact that by the time Anakin became a grown man, he *already knew better* and was perfectly capable of controlling his emotions if he so desired. What happened to him as a kid didn't have to *define* him as an adult and most certainly didn't justify the cruel, heinous things that he did when he *allowed* himself to be lured into an impressionable state and manipulated by Palpatine/Sidious. And at the end of the day, it was *Obi-Wan* who was entrusted by Qui-Gon to watch over, train and raise the boy, not anyone else so even if Obi-Wan wasn't exactly "the perfect guidance" for him, he STILL knew more about being a Jedi than Anakin did so it would've been wise for Anakin to actually *listen* to Obi-Wan more often instead of nearly always butting heads with him. The *most vital* point to FOREVER remember here is that EVERYone is responsible for controlling/maintaining their emotional stability and discipline at the end of the day and what happens to you in childhood doesn't necessarily have to stay with you for all time either. I know what Anakin was born as, but he also didn't remain a 8-year-old child forever either now did he? He entered the Order at around that age which was considered *very* rare according to Obi-Wan which is *all the more* reason why he should've been a lot more receptive enough to pay attention to those who knew more AND did more than him while in the Jedi Order instead of being so arrogant, power-hungry and overly susceptible to his more negative/darker emotions.
@@alsimmons4504 that's a long paragraph to write to still be entirely wrong. Being an adult doesn't give you some magical foresight that prevents you from making wrong decisions. If you believe that, that's just laughable. There are people in the real world who dont do the right thing that are grown so what's your point. Thinking you know the character of Anakin better than how George Lucas described the situation is beyond arrogant. Another thing you forget all of what happened was entirely the will of the force the only way Anakin could balance the light and dark was first to take down the Jedi order which hadnt been walking the path of peace, they were incredibly flawed and even more morally ambiguous than the sith at this point in history.
@@Zabrakjedi That's quite funny considering how *your* comment is just as short as your train of thought. Nobody remains kids/children forever, sooner or later *EVERYONE* grows up eventually and Anakin Skywalker was no exception whatsoever in the slightest. And another thing that *you* obviously forgot to bear in mind is the fact that he *KNEW WHAT IT WAS LIKE TO BE A KID WHO WAS UNSURE OF ANYTHING AND EASILY FRIGHTENED AND FEARFUL OF CERTAIN THINGS* but yet STILL saw fit to commit the most (or one of the most) disgustingly heinous acts that a person could ever possibly commit: he *MURDERED INNOCENT, SCARED, FEARFUL AND UNSURE CHILDREN THAT HAD NO IDEA WHAT TO DO NOR WHAT WAS GOING ON.* You also tend to be one of the ones who read way too much into Anakin's supposed role as the "Chosen One" as well because simply put, what happened had virtually *nothing* to do with the "will of The Force" at all, it was Anakin's own emotional instability mixed with Sidious' manipulations that was the cause of Anakin turning against and taking down the Jedi Order who were the ones who practically *raised him* and gave him purpose and power, both things that he never ever had before as a slave on Tatooine. They were *intergalactic peacekeepers* so OFC keeping the peace *was* in their job description (duh lol 🤦🏽♂️). And even though they had their flaws, Anakin wasn't exactly "perfect" nor "innocent" himself and had already become even more of a headache for the Jedi than the Sith at this point in time plus the fact that *he* was the cause of their downfall and near extinction just pretty much sealed his fate in the absolute *worst* way imaginable as well.
And in the case that *you* seem to be so adamant about claiming, then quite frankly, Anakin should've never EVER been taken into the Order to begin with and maybe he would've been far better off living life as a regular/normal person instead of a Jedi warrior.
I got the chance to meet Hayden in Toronto for the fan expo 2023 and literally life changing❤ I went for the handshake and he asked for a hug and literally melted my heart. His portrayal of Anakin was and still the reason Anakin is my fav character in Star Wars❤❤
Hayden was a great guy when i got a picture with him at Celebration 2019 in chicago. He likes making the fans feel good/doing right by each one.
@@scottb3034 fr he’s a class act ❤️
I love that!! He's always come off as a great guy to me. As far as I know his daughter hasn't been allowed to watch Star Wars yet because he and her mother don't want her to see him portraying a villain
Love Hayden Christensen so much he is they reason for star wars no matter what
@@davidp3837man idk what I do knowing the greatest villains in all cinema is my dad 😂❤
It’s always great to see ppl watching these movies for the first time. For me and most other Star Wars fans we grew up with it and it’s honestly hard to judge these movies without biases. But seeing grown up ppl watch it and get it like they read interpretations of the movie is cool to see.
Anakin’s overall turn to the dark side wasn’t quick, just his final push. Ever since the end of Episode I, Palpatine has been speaking to Anakin from time to time. Anakin alludes to this when he mentions Palpatine’s guidance. Plus, Palpatine’s been picking up on Anakin’s thoughts, simply because Ani never learned to be mindful about them and learn how to keep them to himself. Palpatine worked on getting Anakin gradually until he knew that the time was right to start the final pull to the dark side using Ani’s love for Padmé.
Order 66 is so much more emotional after growing up with the Clone Wars from 2008 to the final Season from 2021. Many of the Clone Commanders we see gunning down their Jedi Generals are actually characters from the show for example Commander Gree who ends up getting killed by Yoda. Not to mention many of the Jedi as well who were really backgrounded characters in the films but made into actually characters in novels, comics, and The Clone Wars tv series. The Jedi master who was shot down by his fellow Clones and crashed is Plo Koon a really beloved character who was so cool in Clone Wars and is actually the shows creators favourite Jedi so he special attention.
The expanded Universe does go deeper into how the Clones were able to just turn on the Jedi like that after 3 years of servicing with them. There's two versions the old extended universe and the Canon. The Old EU explained that the Clones already knew about Order 66 with many even regretting there actions while most Clones were okay with going along with it with some Clones even down right hating the Jedi as many had bad experiences with just awful Jedi Leadership. There's even examples of Clones who went against Order 66 and tried to save Jedi.
In the canon highlighted in The Clone Wars TV Series the Clones had Inhibitor chip implanted at birth. These would trigger at an order and in the case of Order 66 force the Clones to turn on there Jedi Generals basically brainwashing losing all train of thought beyond "Kill the Jedi". After a while the events wore off and many Clones were faced with what the done. There was still clones who were fine with it as they actually believed that the Jedi went against the Republic and others who were starting to question what happened. But not long after Order 66 the Stormtrooper program came into effect and the new Imperial leadership started to see Clones as tools of war rather than living humanoids. New enlisted humans started to join the Stormtrooper program and the Clones were offered the course of retiring with pay with many staying on to Train Stormtroopers. While some Clones fought against the Empire trying to help there Clone Brothers and that's all we really know, Bad Batch does into this so I do recommend watching that for more insight along with Clone Wars.
I personally prefer the Inhibitor chip but I know there's people who prefer the idea that the Clones always knew and just went through with it. The video game *Battlefront 2* from 2005 actually covers this story showing the events of Revenge of the Sith from the pov of a Clone and after when the Empire came to the power and those same Clones become the first Stormtroopers. This came out in 2005 so before the Inhibitor chips were introduced in The Clone Wars TV series. So the game features the Clones actually know that they'll have to kill the Jedi one day.
Nah the Jedi are trash and just the lesser of two evils. Take the powerful and well composed music out of that scene and it doesn't hit
Bro decided to spoil clone wars for no reason
@@indianwarlord6935ikr? 😂😂😂 In the desire of some people to tell everything they know, they do not care about spoiling the experience for others, so selfish 🤷🏻♂️
The Clone Wars neutered the impact of the betrayal by taking the decision out of the hands of the clones. It was better as originally designed which was a constitutional ordered invoked by the Chancellor that the Clones would be compelled to obey but not forced to obey...it became their decision to turn on the Jedi and made them the secondary antagonists they were mean to be.
But the Clone Wars show couldn't abide by their heroes being willfully evil, no sir. Had to hedge the responsibility because the show had no guts.
@@indianwarlord6935 I mean the Inhibitor chip are deeply connected to so much more to other media as well than only Clone Wars so it's not really a spoiler. I don't get what element of Clone Wars I spoiled.
Vince has been all over this story and it’s lore like a champ. Shoshana has also, but Vince’s questions and predictions are some of the most intuitive among first time watchers. Vince, you should be a writer because you are able to piece together threads and plotlines with the best of them. Great Reaction, Ya’ll.
Vince is a total G
Now you know our pain. On a brighter note though, Yoda vs Palpatine was a duel for the ages. The music made it even more hype.
"I HATE YOU!"
"I loved you..."
😢
Fun fact, if you watch with headphones with heavy bass or speakers with bass. The part Vader was being put together theirs a heart beat. It beats while the suit is being put on. As the helmet is installed, the heartbeat stops. Then continues as soon as Vader exhales for the first time under the helmet. Symbolizing the death of Anakin/Padme and the rebirth of Darth Vader.
really? i never knew that
Makes you appreciate in Return of the Jedi when the Emperor said, "Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen." He had been setting this entire chain of events up since a bit before the Phantom Menace.
According to Star Wars lore, lightsabers can reach temperatures ranging from 18,000°C to 25,000°C. The average medium-sized blade is estimated to have a temperature of around 20,000°F. This extreme heat is what allows lightsabers to cut through almost anything, from stone to titanium
Yes, and the most effective means of keeping a lightsaber from cutting something/someone is... plot armor.
PS - Once you understand the difference between ray shields and deflector shields in the Star Wars universe, the lightsabers make a lot more sense. A deflector shield is angled to the direction of flight to keep solid objects (meteorites, debris, and other solid objects) from damaging the ship. But a ship that has ray shields up does NOT deflect solid matter... it can repel energy blasts, yet other ships and/or solid objects can pass right through them and dock.
With Gungan ray shields, we watched energy weapons fire bounce off, but the droids could walk right through. We've likewise seen tie fighters launch from ships that have shields up. And we've seen (in this film) Anakin and Obi Wan land in a ship's hangar that had shields up during a battle.
So a lightsaber relies on a ray shield shaped like a 'blade' to contain the plasma within. This is why lightsabers can repel other lightsabers as well as deflect fire from energy weapons. But solid matter (ie: an opponents arm) will pass through the outer shield and be severed by the incredibly hot plasma within. So energy will bounce off a lightsaber's projected shield, but matter will pass through and be obliterated.
I'm actually surprised that nobody in the Star Wars universe wears some form of body-worn personal energy shields to protect against all the energy-based weapons.
@@Mr.Ekshin And one name for this plot armour is Beskar steel
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Yo thanks for that breakdown! I really appreciate knowing this knowledge.✊🏾✊🏾
Not in the stupid Disney crap
Now yall gotta watch clone wars
They shall indeed.
clone wars got nothing to do with sequels
@bienG6745 so 🤷🏽♂️
Yeah no
@bienG6745what the fuck? Bros playing Star Trek commander
Obviously you would think that with all the clones expert aim and battle experience that they would become the storm troopers but no. The Emperor gets rid of them that hire a bunch of people to be storm troopers. Shaken my head, they were this 🤏close to greatness
If you wanna know more about how sidious controlled the clones and how long he was grooming anakin I highly recomend you watch clone wars. Plus the ending is so so good I think it's some of my favourite star wars media.
Also that wasn't leia at the funeral
Fun fact the ship we see Obi Wan and Yoda meet up with Bail Organa after Order 66 along with R2D2 and C3PO aboard at the end is the Tantive IV the same ship Leia was onboard in the opening of A New Hope. We also see a young Raymus Antilles who is told by Bail Organa to wipe C3PO's memory. Raymus Antilles was the Captain of the Tantive IV and the Rebel physically choked by Darth Vader in the opening of A New Hope when he boarded the Tantive IV looking for the Death Star plans. So this is a very important ship in Star Wars, also showed up in Clone Wars for fans of that show.
As someone who does not watch star wars.. It's honestly like you are speaking a foreign language
@@OrphanCrippler69bb Wait so why are you on a Star Wars reaction? lol I get that tbh there's alot of characters, ships, planets, items, and events that make non fans zone out. I was in a group call with my two friends and they started talking about Doctor Who and I just thought "No idea what there saying, maybe just stay silent until they finish talking"
the "Millennium Falcon" also appears.
Something I found neat that I learned from other people discussing it is that Sidious made his lightsaber with expensive and flashy materials to spite the Jedi since their lightsabers are meant to show some form of humility and are usually simple
The fact that you can hear the ''Across the Stars'' Melody when Padme lands on Mustafar, always gets me close to tearing up (you can hear it at 30:27 in this video) . Not just because it is my favorite SW soundtrack. Also because how the theme played in sad but also happy moments of their lovestory. It is always so bittersweet to listen to it.
Christian Hayden is so awesome and now he's back to reprise his role again😊❤
My heart was burning harder than anakins skin when I heard RETURN of the sith
This comment will never get old. Just like the younglings.
I agree with your thoughts on Qui-Gon at the end. He needed a father figure in his life and while Obiwan cared about him, he just wasn't that, and Palpatine exploited it.
Hence the name of the song that went along with the Darth Maul Duel "Duel of the Fates". Meaning who ever won that battle held the fate of Anakin in their hands. Qui-Gon would have been the figure he needed. That would have shifted the balance towards the Jedi.
one thing i absolutely love about this movie is the music
📌When Anakin killed Count Dooku, Palpatine said *"He's too dangerous to be left alive".* When Mace Windu was about to kill Palpatine, that's also what he said. This further emphasizes to Anakin the flaws of the Jedi Order.
Except one was an unarmed prisoner who had given up and another was a cornered but still dangerous enemy that was never going to surrender. not similar at all.
@@scottb3034 both were unarmed the fact is still that mace and palpatine used the same logic. Mace always looked down on anakin and he showed he wasnt different from the sith in some pretty serious spots
@@Maxxburn101 Sidious very much armed....did you miss the lightning shooting out of his hands? Dooku was kneeling, surrendered and unable to channel the Force because he lacked hands. Sidious was yelling Mace was going to die....
Self-defense and defense of the greater good is a just cause and moral reason to kill an enemy, murdering a pow isn't. Sidious was the former, dooku the latter.
to insinuate they are the same at all is insane logic.
that's like saying a soldier defending his country from an attacker with a bomb is the same as a soldier executing a pow who is severely wounded and has no weapons sitting before you just because they both said the same thing in reply. one is a crime the other is not. Anakin is a murderer, Mace is not.
This Movie is and always has been my all time favorite out of all of them.
Facts. There were only 3 people in Anakin's life who truly believed in him: His mom, Qui-Gon, and Palpatine. After Qui-Gon and his Mom's deaths, Palpatine was the only one left who would constantly tell Anakin that he could be greater than he currently was, while the rest of the Jedi order told him to hang back and slow down. The Jedi feared that Anakin would reach a power level so great he would be more powerful than them, so they held him back. Conversely, Palpatine always pushed Anakin to always be greater. We of course learn that Palpatine had ulterior motives in regards to Anakin ( obviously), but from Anakin's point of view, he got nothing but support from Palpatine, while he got nothing but roadblocks and timeouts from the Jedi Order.
So basically he grows up with no father. Then Qui-Gon shows up, and becomes the closest to a father he had ever experienced at that point, and but then gets killed. Palpatine shows up, and portrays the same positive support that Qui-Gon gave him, which probably reminded him of Qui-Gon. Every chance Palpatine could get, he would always praise Anakin or compliment him, and tell him he will be the best Jedi there ever was. Nothing but praises, nothing but support, nothing but love, at least how Anakin probably perceived it. Meanwhile Obi-Wan, sat in the middle. He treated Anakin like his little brother, which was probably fine, but like the brother who was never trusted with anything. But the Jedi Order treated Anakin like Cinderella, undermining him when they could, grounding him when they could, gas lighting him, holding him back....never truly allowing Anakin to reach his full potential....because they were afraid of it.
So when shit finally hit the fan, and Anakin had to make a choice between good and evil, the light side or dark side, the Jedi or the Senate, etc.....he ends up picking Palpatine. Because for Anakin, it probably wasn't about good or bad, light or dark, Jedi or Sith. It was a choice between the people who never accepted him as he truly was, and all his potential (Jedi Order); Or choosing the only person left that believed and supported him the way his Mom always did, the way Qui-Gon did, and that was Palpatine. So it's no surprise he ended up following Palpatine, because at the time it seemed Palpatine was the only who who had his best interest in mind. We later learn that Palpatine manipulated Anakin, maybe to a greater degree than the order, but from Anakin's point of view, it was as easy as siding with a family member over a stranger.
He was the most gifted force user at the time, and just wanted to metamorphize into a Butterfly to spread his wings and fly. Palpatine was the only one still alive offering him a cocoon to do it. Had the order just let him spread his wings, he probably wouldn't have become Vader. But the Jedi Order feared Anakin, which caused them to treat Anakin like he was a stray cat. All that preaching they gave Anakin about how fear leads to the dark side, and at the end of the day it was the fear the Jedi Order had of Anakin that drove him away, towards the path to the Darkside....and that, I think, was the real tragedy. Ironic, isn't it?
I think Dave Feloni also said in an interview, that if Qui Gonn hadn't been killed, Anakin wouldn't have turned to the dark side. And that the music playing, while Qui Gonn fights Darth Maul, is named Duel of The Fates for that reason. Because all the Fates of the Galaxy were at stake in that fight.
I like your insight into Qui-Gon's role. Qui-Gon was also Dooku's former padawan, and Palpatine knew he was the anchor. I think Palpatine ordered Darth Maul to be sure Qui-Gon died, so that 1) Anakin would not have him to raise him like you mention, and 2) Dooku would no longer have Qui-Gon as a conscience. Dooku makes a comment to that effect when talking to Obi-Wan on Geonosis in Attack of the Clones. Dooku knew Darth Sidious was behind everything, and while Dooku didn't like how the Senate worked or how the Jedi went along with it, he didn't want to destroy everything and hand the galaxy over to the Sith. Qui-Gon was Dooku's last link to the light, and losing him left him appealing to Obi-Wan for help. Obi-Wan didn't have the connection that Qui-Gon had, and simply refused him out of turn. Remember that Palpatine had foreseen most of what happened, and knew it would ultimately lead to Anakin's corruption, removing the last threat to his rise to become emperor. As you saw in episodes IV-VI, Palpatine didn't foresee Anakin's child surviving, nor Luke being able to change him back.
I pisses me off soo many people have Hayden soo much hate for these movies. I have always liked these movies, I thought they were extremely underrated especially Revenge of the Sith. You guys should watch the animated series Clone Wars. It gives a lot more detail into the stories of literally everyone.
This has always been my point to make, as well. Hayden did a superb job portraying an extremely powerful, yet awkward teen/young adult prodigy. Most of us that have lived through the raging hormone years can attest to the cringe and dorkiness that time in our lives brings forth to the world. Personally, I was a mess, and Anakin had it worse than most of us with that "Chosen One" bullsh!t hanging over his head. Example: Even both ACTORS playing Anakin picked up hate for playing "The Chosen One".
Anikan was viewed the wrong way. Most everyone was either completely on his side, or against him. But ultimately, both palpatine and the council used him and didn’t even attempt to help him when it was obvious that he was having mental issues. Even though he didn’t open up to the council, all of them especially yoda are perfectly capable of seeing into the mind of one of their own.
The council actually couldn't completely because Palpatine was putting that dark side shroud over them, it's why they didn't know Anakin and Padme were together, they could only sense his strong negative emotions like his fear
Episode 3: One of the greatest masterpieces of all time.
Heres something to consider. Padmé was never was concerned that she might die. She never expressed a fear of dying or not living to see their children. And whenever any characters brought up her potential death Anakin said things like “I can’t live without her” “I won’t lose you the way I lost my mother.” His desire to save her was about him and his wants, not hers. If he’d ever once considered what she wanted he’d know she’d never want him to do terrible things and that she’d never be with him if she knew he’d done them.
good call
OOH That's VERY GOOD. In all my days, and i was even in a STar Wars Fan club around this time, where we talked about these theories incessantly, NO ONE ever mentioned that or picked up that. Bravo!!
Being a Jedi doesn't require to be emotionless, although it does happen, it requires that you don't allow your emotions to blind you and your judgement also the stormtroopers were enlisted civilians, the clones stopped being used during the empire
excellent. Correct.
Funny you should say that Obi-wan is detached from Anakin. It's far from it on this movie. And explored even more in the Clone Wars series. He always knew about Anakin and Padmé. Obi-wan even had a girlfriend, Satine Kryze and he was low-key clapping cheeks off camera 😂
Siri Tachi was a better love interest for Kenobi than Satine ever was. That said it was proven up and down this movie he wasn't detached.
It's so nice seeing someone's genuine reaction to this masterpiece
Anakin going from conflicted to child murderer is one of the quickest turnarounds in movie history
Do not underestimate the power of the dark side.
The way I see it, Anakin is very good at compartmenting his feelings. Think of it like when you know what you’re about to do is wrong, but you’ve already committed to doing it. So you actively don’t think about the consequences. In this case Anakin has been hardened by three years of war and has decades of Jedi training that taught him how to compartment his feelings.
he had already killed sand people women and children it was not as quick as you think.@@dodywidodo9433
Ele já tinha matado uma população inteira no filme passado então parece não ter sido 100% forçado..
Anakin is a perfect example of if a man is led by his emotions he makes irrational decisions that affect everyone.
“Have you ever heard the tale of Darth Vader the Emotional?”
There’s nothing irrational about:
1. Have vision of mother’s death, which comes true.
2. Have vision of wife’s death.
3. Do anything to save wife.
@Timebomb_19 To base actions with enormous repercussions on a dream with no proof beyond a bad experience yrs before isn't wise.
@@Timebomb_19 the first one he had no control over since he was away from home. And for the remaining he unknowingly ended up being the reason she died.
@@shootingreal5945Yoda straight up says "Careful when sensing visions of the future Anakin", not to mention the first vision came true, so yeah, there was enough proof that his visions would come true. The only thing Anakin could have done more was lend some thought into how it would end up there.
There is a popular theory among the star wars community that I agree with, that Sideous was not actually lying when he said to Anakin that he killed padme in his anger. That Anakin only survived because he inadvertantly used the force to take padme's life force and survive, hence why they couldn't figure out why she died.
That theory doesn't have enough evidence for it to be true
@@JuliusNovak_ I'd argue it makes the most sense of any given how the movie was released. It explains EVERYTHING.
>Why Sideous says Anakin killed her when otherwise he didn't
>why the duality of Anakins operation when he's moaning on pain on the table and them operating to save the twins are shown at the same time in parallel action to one another (just learned that term for how it was edited lol)
>why she dies at all despite no medical reason at a super young age.
>how he survives such massive injuries. The human body can admittedly be resilient, but 3 limbs removed and fire scorching 90% of your remaining skin surface for as long as it takes for the fire to go out? Nah.
Separately, sure these can be explained away, but this theory conveniently makes sense of all of them at the same time
@@fir3gaming664 >The reason why Sideous says he killed padme was to further manipulate/push his power further
>Anakins operation took place over the course of a week or so they just sped it up for movie reasons
>The reason padme died was bc Anakin almost killed her and she didn't want to live knowing Anakin did all those terrible things
>The dark side has been able to keep people from dying from life threatening injuries, best example Darth maul and other sith from TOR
All of what you said can be easily explained
@@JuliusNovak_ yes, I've said already it can all be explained separately but not nearly as neatly as that theory explains it. And that theory has far more proof then separate theories about them.
What Sideous said could be explained away 10 different ways, because he constantly lies and tells mistruths.
This is one of the only theories though that explains why padme died, Anakin barely did shit to her. All he did was choke her, so if she survived that breathing there should have been no lasting damage.
Hell we get TOLD there is no medical reason for her to die. And even if you don't want to live you can't just spontaneously die when you feel like it with 0 medical issues at all. (Actually technically this is incorrect, there is something called broken heart syndrome, but that presents differently to how she passed)
Also this theory would also BE Anakin using the dark side to drain padme, just inadvertently as a final ditch effort to survive.
It also doesn't matter at all how long the operations took, what matters is why it was edited the way it was
@@fir3gaming664 Ofc it matter how long the operation took bc it shows how Anakin couldn't have killed padme, the length of the operation destroys the entire theory
So we not gonna talk about how she said "Return of the Sith"??
It’s such a great ending and it had the best dialogue out of the prequels. I’m just sad George cut one of the best lines out of the movie. The scene where Obi Wan talks with Padme had a lot more. I don’t remember it exactly, but it amounted to him admitting he’s known for a very long time. While it went against everything he was trained in and was taught to believe, what Padme did for Anakin on an emotional level and the level of stability and happiness she brought him, he was content to keep looking the other way. Which goes to show how right Padme was to trust in Obi Wan should they need to lean on someone for help - he would have gone as far as he could for both of them.
40:33 True. Obi Wan was too inexperienced to train Anakin properly at the time, so Anakin looked for parental guidance elsewhere, and Palpatine took advantage of that.
I remember watching this for the first time in theaters and everything from the music to the acting, it was just so beautifully emotional. I still get in my feels whenever I rewatch! ROTS is definitely my favorite of the SW movies. That and tragic stories always gets me...Anakin and his desperation to save Padme, a whole self-fulfulling prophecy 😢
after watching the entirety of Clone Wars show, Anakins arc hits way different
Order 66 too for both the Jedi and clones that got characterized
No it doesn't
27:10 I am so happy his lava fascination was kept in
This movie is such a masterpiece after all these years, seeing reactions and stuff make me appreciate it even more
You guys need to see the clone wars series
It’s an animated movie an then the series, expands on the lore of the prequels and adds a lot of context to how things ended shows Anakin at his best and links directly to episode III makes Anakin's fall sadder
I remember when this movie came out. I was a junior in college. I’ll never forget that opening scene, with those drums. There was a wispy sound as well that sounded like the AC unit in the Zigfield theater in Manhattan. The similar sounds and cold gentle air added such a realism to the entire experience. I remember I was completely dialed in to that moment. Thank you so much for your reactions !!
If Qui-Gon-Jinn (Liam Neeson from ep1) trained Anikan things would have turned out differently, he would have help'ed him with his anger problems and his attraction to the dark side.
Obi-Wan tried his best but remember he only became a mster after Qui-Gon-Jinn died, he wasnt fully trained to pick up a padawan.
thoughts?
Obi-Wan was also seen more like a brother and a friend than a possible father figure. It's why imo Anakin couldn't really respect Obi-Wan's authority at times and why he has this complex where he thinks Obi-Wan is constantly holding him back or that he's jealous of Anakin. It's easy to fall into that kind of mindset with a rival. With Qui-Gon I don't think that would've been a problem at all.
Only thing Padme could've said is that she'd rather die than see him join the dark side. I guess it's gonna happen anyways.
This is actually my favorite episode.
Truly, a storytelling masterpiece.
Really enjoyed watching y’all react. The fact y’all actually think about stuff going on and character motivations and such is so, so refreshing.
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Here we go! I've been looking forward to you two getting to this one. 😊
This is easily my absolute favorite of the prequel trilogy, and tying for second with "The Empire Strikes Back" as my second favorite overall of all 11(originals, prequels, Rogue One, Solo, and sequels)the movies.
Great performance by Hayden Christensen in this movie as Anakin Skywalker. And especially once we get his transformation into Darth Vader.
The Mustafar scene from the lightsaber fight between Anakin/Vader and Obi-Wan to Obi-Wan's "you were the Chosen One" monolog...fantastically done by Ewan McGregor and Hayden Christensen.
We find out here that Padmè is now pregnant with Luke and Leia. And we see how they are separated until they meet in "Star Wars: A New Hope".
So happy to have finally seen your reactions for the prequel trilogy. I do highly recommend you two checking out the "Clone Wars" animated series on Disney+. Or at least, the "Clone Wars" animated movie.
Looking forward to the next reaction 😊
Fun fact: at 17:00 you can see they used anakin and obiwans prop lightsabers for general Greivous’s right arms
Thanks for the info he is a great looking CGI character for the time and still is now.
You should watch the clone wars you'll see that obiwan basically fell in love and was ready to leave the Jedi Order at some point
If you watch the clone wars the show , this hits 10x harder
You’re spot on. Qui-Gon was a bit different than other Jedi, but he was the father figure Anakin never had. The brotherhood relationship developed with Obi-Wan and Anakin, and knowing his upbringing, Anakin never had a father figure. The father figure than seeped into his life was Palpatine.
That look on Yoda's face when he catches Sidious' force lightning is one of my favorite parts of the movie. I can't even describe it... The look he had just says "I am more powerful than you think". RIP Master Yoda.
Yoda was the strongest Force User in the saga once Anakin couldn't get to his potential due to injuries. He outclasses Sidious the entire duel.
@@scottb3034Wrong in the book Palpatine is growing stronger and stronger by the second and Yoda once he falls knows he can’t compete against Palpatine and goes into exile.
Was so hyped for this. Glad yous recognised that Anakin was put in bad positions by the jedi and the sith. Pretty reasonable in why he did what he did, just gave into the dark side too much
Still remember watching Episode 3 in the UK back in 2005 for my birthday (may 4th) and I’ll never forget the drumming at the start of the film when the interceptors are flying past the Venator.
It’s always been like a beam of plasma able to cut through anything, it’s just that the sequel trilogy and Disney don’t know how to use lightsabers and makes them seem like actual swords. In the force awakens they seem alot weaker, I’m not a Star Wars expertece but there was some change and people weren’t happy about it.
I like the comparison of hard dedication and work vs pure innate talent. Obiwon is the epitome of someone who may not have innate talent, but he's clearly worked hard to get here. I think it's what really pays into his discipline and emotional control. He has had to WORK to be a successful Jedi
Versus Anakin who clearly is talented. Being a Jedi and the powers with it have obviously come naturally to him which i think plays into how emotional he is. He doesn't really have to try as hard to be strong as a Jedi, so the emotional discipline is something easy to fudge his way through during training. It didn't work in the end which is why he was able to be turned with his fear of losing those he loves (and the counsel's fear of his power)
I see the argument , but Obi Wan (and Windu) clearly had massive talent compared to many other colleagues that worked as hard and were as dedicated . Anakin was just on another scale raw talent wise
@@ZarathosDaimaoh sure. I just think the dichotomy between the two, given they're so close, is very interesting.
"One often meets his fate on the path he takes to avoid it" Anakin turned to the darkside because he thought it could help him save Padme but it ended up corrupting him so he killed her.
Anakin didn't show up with the intention of joining Palpatine aa a sith when windu was fighting him. He only wanted to make sure windu didn't kill him.
So true. Quigon would have known how to prevent what happened
Having watched the OG trilogy and prequel trilogy at least 100x I will never not get emotional watching them. Everyone has their thoughts on what the think should have happened but in the end we all enjoy them. Thanks guys ❤