Running games at lower resolutions on PS5 makes absolutely no difference in performance All you're doing is downscaling it after it's already been upscaled The internal resolution is still whatever the game's resolution is no matter what resolution you are using
@@funkyhomosapien1 3rd of all, 4090 lets you play 4k resolution with the price of more than 2 ps5 with other PC parts excluded. This is the most dumbest "Reasonable".
@@jaz9522 If you have a 4090 it is a reasonable price, so why is it dumb? Dumb because someone who can't afford it then calls it dumb, that kind of dumb :(). You made a well-thought-out reply snigger
Interesting take, thanks for your work. I upgraded my system to 7900xt/7800x3d. Gpu is high midrange, CPU should be one of the best. Coming from a 34“ 144hz 1080p panel i wanted to pair it with a better fit. BUT i dont want to change again in a few years. So i went with the alienware 4K oled 240hz. No clue if i will ever see 240fps on it, but i dont care. I will go down in Settings, if necessary but i dont want to go to 1440p for now.
No matter what 240hz IPS panel you present, IMO an LG 120hz OLED panel will be a better experience due to pixel latency. It feels like 120hz OLED doesnt have the pixel smear that happens with non OLED panels. I would mention you can get a new older LG C series for quite a reasonable price when a new one is released. I do agree that a monitor is half of the experience, having the best hardware with no way to experience it... like being dressed up with nowhere to go.
Yeah 1440P is the sweet spot for fidelity and performance right now. And when factoring in consoles performance and overall GPU prices it just makes sense for those who can't afford to step up to 4K. When AMD finally catches up with Nvidia with FSR to DLSS (in upscaling quality) and we have 4080-7900XTX performance in the mid range at $400-500.. I think 4K will be a much more approachable target for a lot of people. We also have Sony's PS5 Pro to look forward to but thats more of a 4K 30 machine; that's rumored to be coming the end of the year.
@@jayhongfrWith image reconstruction from 1440p or less. Even less than 1080p on some games on Performance Mode. And they kept the same CPU, it will probably run 4K only at 30 FPS or 40 FPS on a 120Hz screen.
did upscaling multiple times on PC games, and on EMU, it was always the same as a medium jump. Even on vids shows it's not a big jump and pics show this too. I watched vids on my 4K TV and the jump isn't big like I said it's med. People even on forums say the jump isn't that big in games, PC, or console. Text is where it shows a big difference from 1440 to 4k, Unoptimised games struggle to run native 4K even with monster cards like a 3080-4090. That problem doesn't always happen with 1440p, I had been using a 4K screen since last year. 1440 I had used for like 6 year's 4k has been frustration with unoptimized/demanding games even using high settings, stutter/dropped fps Earlier today got a 1440,feels so good to be back where I was earlier last year and as I said for 6 year's straight,hardly any drops or stutters no more like with 4k,I'm back home
My LG OLED TV runs at either 1440p at 120hz or 4k at 60hz, and as a casual gamer liking games such as Dead Space and Horizon I'm undecided as to which setting is best for me (I play both PS5 and Xbox Series X games) Obviously I want the best picture possible, but also want it to run as smoothly as possible too, so based on this, am I right in thinking 1440p at 120hz is the best way to go for me?
Im currently on an RTX 3070 and not only wanting to make the bump to a 4k oled monitor but also a new gpu. It seems any gpu outside a 4090 or 7900XTX is really just for 1440p. Im almost thinking Ill wait until next gen on the GPU and get one of the oleds soon. Im just sitting here wondering if the next midrange gpus will have the same 4k strength as a 4090 or if I should just stick to 1440p.
Probably will eventually like 1440p was at some point only high end PC could run it ages ago so probably happen eventually were mid range can run 4k probably like 5070 or 6070 probably can run 4k good you have the patience because I didn't ^^ but good luck
I put this in the search area and I get nothing. Why or how am I getting 4k on 1440p monitors. How is that possible. The Septre . (C325B-QWN168W our of the box. Nothing on this monitor says 4k. It is great and very bright but It does do 4k 3840x2160. Nothing on the box or Amazon says it is 4k. Strange thing is I have a LG t 27QN600-B 27hat used to just get 1449p but I built another PC and while setting up the display using that monitor I noticed it would suddenly do 3840x2160 also. I want to know why this is happening? I hear nobody talking about it.
I’m currently debating if it’s worth keeping my M28U 4k 144hz or getting the LG ultragear 27” 1440 165Hz. I mainly play Fortnite on my PS5. Price difference is $160. I’m leaning more towards keeping the M28U because I feel like I may keep it longer since it has HDMI 2.1, but at the same time my brain is telling me maybe the LG is enough for me plus I would save the $160. Any advice?
Anyways it is the 4k one because 144 at 4k is like a monitor at 1440p with 240 fps and even if you got that your gpu might only get 160 fps so that would be a huge waste. I would recommend the MSI MAG 323UPF 32.0" 3840 x 2160 160 Hz Monitor it is 600 dollars if you really want to get a new monitor but I cannot recommend any new monitor unless you have a 7900 xt or xtx or 4080 or 4090 because any other gpu won’t be able to keep up with the 160 hz at 4k. Because if you have a 144 hz 4k monitor and you usually get around 140 or 150 frames per second it is good if you are also under it you definitely don’t need to buy another monitor. But if you are getting higher than that look for around hz. Remember 4k gets 2x less than 1440p so 144 fps at 4k is equal to around 288 fps at 1440p so when looking for a monitor do that math to see how many hz you should get. Also the panel type is also a big factor all Lowe’s are the best but most expensive even though sometime va panels are ok they are basically just the panels in a tv like the one in your living room or something, they are really dark so if you have to get one make sure it has a very bright display. Ips are the most common and are pretty versatile usually they are pretty good. Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh you have a ps5??? Just use that money to save up for a pc. Because with a ps5 you might not even get 100 fps at 4k. Just stay with your monitor right now it is really good
The most important aspect of gaming at 4K has been completely avoided in the video, but I don't blame you as very few people know this, more people will be made aware of as time goes on. But right now modern games are being **PLAGUED** by TAA which **DESTROYS** the image quality so absolutely, you actually NEED a full blown 4K panel to render the game properly and have it look simillar to a 1080p or 1440p panel without TAA. Remember the old days when games looked clear and crisp on 1080p? Your eyes didn't deteriorate, no, you don't need glasses. It's TAA, so much it destroys the image that a 1080p panel looks like a 540p/720p panel with TAA enabled. And a 4K panel looks like a 1080p/1440p panel. TAA also cannot be disabled and IF you do disable it the game turns into a shimmery disaster as TAA is so crucially implemented in the engine it simply breaks without it. This is perhaps **THE** most important aspect to discuss when you talk about upgrading to a 4K monitor. TAA is a plague upon games, and it must be rooted out.
1440p really would be the sweet spot if TAA weren't so pervasive on most modern games. However, I don't think buying a 4K monitor is necessarily the solution for everyone with lower res screens. DLDSR to upscale to higher resolutions and then downscale it to native res manages to reduce aliasing significantly and for some games with a bad TAA implementation can really clear up the image. It's a bigger performance hog than native 4K (DLSS helps), but its potentially better than having to fork over $500+ for a good 4K monitor just to beat TAA.
TAA does have it's downsides, but IMO it's a massive improvement over what we had in the Xbox 360/PS3 era (either no AA at all or garbage FXAA). TAA does blur the image, but unlike the previous post process AA solutions (FXAA, MLAA, SMAA), it's at least very effective at combatting all types of aliasing. MSAA isn't coming back, it simply doesn't work well with modern game engines. It simultaneously has a huge performance hit, and also isn't very effective in deferred rendering engines. There are some exceptions like RDR2 which have a poor TAA/DLSS implementation, but DLSS looks really good in most games at 1440p IMO. That said, I do use a 4k monitor as I have little interest in fast paced multi-player games these days. I mostly play single player games and am perfectly happy with 60 fps and want the best fidelity possible.
Thanks for the video, on my end i am running a 32 inch 1440 165hz gsync monitor with a 4090 and really enjoying it. However i am wondering how it would be with a 4k monitor. Also wondering how it would be with an ultrawide 1440p display. I do have my reservations in changing however, because when running cyberpunk at max settings with Ray tracing (no DLSS) the frame rate is 80-90 fps on the 1440p so its still quite taxing on the gpu. Paired it with a ryzen 7800x3d.
If your monitor isn't HDR, I would look into an HDR monitor. Going from 1080p to 4k is definitely noticeable(not as much with supersampling and AI upsampling with DLSS though), but I reckon that 1080P HDR probably looks better than 4k SDR content.
On my TV I have 120 Hz Plus VRR capability- but no 1440p capability. Am I set up for at least a "decent" performance quality with my PS5 slim? and perhaps even my PS5 Pro that I'm getting soon?
Great video. I have run a I9-9900K paired to a EVGA 3080 Ti since 2021 (had computer with the 9900K since 2018 when I built it), and I thought I would finally be able to upgrade to a 4K monitor when I upgraded to the new GPU in 2021 and I was wrong. The computer just could not push my favorite games to 100 fps at 4K regularly. So, I sent it back and got the LG UltraGear 1440p 27 inch monitor and wow....1440p is definitely the way to go in gaming. Everything runs at 100-150 fps at max settings to this day and it still looks fantastic. I know the 4000 nvidia series does a lot better at 4K than the 3000 series did, but based on feedback from friends of mine that I game with regularly, even the 4080 struggles at times keeping frame rates over 60-100 depending on the game. My theory is by the time the 5000 series is released in 2025, we are probably going to be at a point where 4K graphics especially over 30 inch monitors will be able to become the norm.
Am still confused. I own a MSI 274UPF 27" 144hz 4K with HDMI 2.1 and with my Xbox Series X at 4K-120FPS feels like its sacrificing details and at 60FPS looks more crisp and the game play is almost the same, may be slightly worse on 60FPS, should I keep or return the monitor and buy a 27" 1440p 144hz for $150 less ? .
@@TyrianHaze He said he WFH on it, oleds have crap text because of their non-standard subpixel layout, which is only exacerbated by all the 27" OLED options being 1440p.
@@SanctusBacchus I have an AW3423DWF, and I don't have any issues with the text. I sit around 2 feet from my monitor, and have terrible vision, so it might just be the way I am using it.
I use the Asus PG27AQDM OLED on my PS5. At that size i think 1440p is perfect. I wouldn't mind a 32" but not sure it would fot on my desk how i would like it to
I can buy 4k monitor for films and not gamming fun , but when i just need more fps i can drop my resolution in game to 2k or full hd and still will be fine on 4k monitor right?
@@WanderingLantern I think the big issue here is the size of the screen, because if we have a 27" 4k screen and we spread FHD image on it will look good enough, but what if like me someone is going to buy a 40" screen for movies and sometimes play FHD or 2K games on it? I think that this FHD image will have to be stretched to 40" which will give us 57ppi , a 27" monitor with FHD has 81ppi. There are options for example in asus to adjust the screen to 27" but I guess then you lose the refresh rate of the screen, and what is the point of buying a 4k 38 inch monitor for over $1000 to play in the FHD 60hz window? I'm thinking more and more that I'll buy a regular FHD 160hz monitor
ALLM is not needed on gaming monitors because they are already optimised for lowest latency out of the box, the only thing that that you might want to consider is how good the response time is and how good the overdrive settings are. ALLM is a thing on TVs because they have things like auto super resolution, motion smoothing i.e. rudimentary frame gen and other tech like that. This all adds latency and moreover it is designed to work with video, where you have a predetermined stream of frames and would only add latency in gaming applications. So ALLM then is basically an API for the console to tell the tv to bulk disable all these features when it detects input video signal from the console.
Im pretty sold on the Alienware QD OLED 4K 240hz. I was interested in LG's 32 inch 4K monitor with the 1080P 480hz mode but LG once again put a MATT coating on the display. Iv been using LG's 1440P 240hz OLED for almost an year so next purchase will defiantly have a Glossy screen.
there is no GPU exist to handle 4K monitor with 240hz neither 140hz...you must hit minimum 140fsp with these GPU's on the market non of them can hit over than 100 fps on 4K gaming..i remember something, nvidia said once 4090 will be 8k gaming gpu what happened ? :))) what a liar company..
Just so you know for Fps games when it comes to frame rate this 100 percent applies, However almost all fighting games are cap locked at 60 Fps to keep things fair on both sides. Great video though very informative! Gonna give a like helped me a lot!
I have the Odyssey g7 monitor paid $700 on ps5 and im currently running warzone at 4k 120 hz with vrr and allm mode on with hdr off ....will i get more fps if i switch to 1440 p or should i stay where im at cus i need every advantage in warzone
You paid 700 for neo G7. They are on sale for 450 and g8 version is 524. Recently bought the g8 since it newer and the same monitor with additional hz.
WHY DO YA PEOPLE LEAVE THE PS5 UPSIDE DOWN ? the ps5 disc drive is on the left side not to you bro your putting in the ps5 disc upside down ? am i missing something hear too why people putting there ps5 upside-down ?
this was my question. If I got a 4K monitor for my PS5 If it can’t run 120hz is it just best to get 1440p in order to get max resolution and max frame rate? @techteamgb
@@deionsmith6322 yes. In my opinion if you are in position to give extra money, buy 1440p monitor OLED, you will not regret it. But if you want to stay on budget to say under 400-500 which 4k monitors are, buy a normal 2k with 144hz and you will be fine.
I have a 4k tv and 1440 p monitor. I cant tell a massive difference. But yes 4k is better. However 4k 120 is something i rarely see. 1440 120 ive seen. And i think its a good spot. I am new to pc gaming and my pc is a 4060ti 8gb, 32gb ram, and amd ryzen 7 7700 😂. I cant run 4k at all!!!
i use a 55 inch 4k tv with 120hz and a 165hz 1440 monitor for my racing games. I would say don't buy a 4k monitor get the 1440p and if you want to play 4k use your tv. but make sure its at least 120hz
you know yourself xbox x cant hold 120fps at 1080p for a minute so a 120hz + monitor with this gen is pointless. forza accetto corsa comp mk11 all run at 60fps. what i would recommend is a 4k 100hz or 75hz monitor but that doesnt fit the platform does it.
i think 1080p is still fine not the best visual quality but it’s enough if you play online games if you do play games that are ment to play on better displays you should get a 1440p monitor which is a good holding ground in between 1080p and 4k, 4k is simply overrated it is not that good most people can’t run or afford 4k so the max i would go for a ps5 is 1440p as well.
@@jahanbaxter Get a line of credit at dell, wait for monitor deals, and you can get yourself a 32 inch 4k oled monitor for maybe 900 bucks with 12 monthly payments of 75 dollars with no interest.
Now if only the increase in pixels would produce a clearer picture... Am I right? FR tho, with good eyes and resonable sitting distance, anything under 150ppi is a blurry, pixelated mess.
I think for desktop use, 1440p is still the most viable option. You need at least a 32'' before 4K even starts to make any sense, but when you start hitting the 40'' range, it's just too large for most uses or desktop spaces. If you really want to game on a huge screen, and the game plays fine with a controller, just play it on a 65'' or 77'' TV in your living room. 1440p on desktop (PC use) allows you to hit higher frame rates easier as well and usually the pixel density is still pretty high on something like a 27''. Was really happy to hear that there will be 27'' 1440p OLED monitors finally. Easier to run and due to the simple fact that they will be OLED, they will still look better than the previous non OLED 4K screens. So no, it's not an "objective fact" that more pixels = better looking. A 4K TN panel looks like dog shit compared to a 1440p OLED screen. 1440p OLED vs 4K OLED is another matter, but again, before 4K even starts to make sense on a desktop monitor you need to be on at least a 32'' screen. Otherwise, you aren't really going to see more of an improvement than what Antialiasing can already give and you're going to be draining resources for no good reason. Also, frame times and input lag are grossly overrated after a point. While you might notice a difference between a stable 60fps and 120fps, most people won't actually notice much beyond 100fps, and those who claim otherwise are living in placebo land. Those claiming they "need" a 240hz++ screen for gaming, claiming it really makes a difference for them are full of it unless they're some elite "e-sports" player. And everyone knows those kinds of players only play at 720p anyway. 🙂 You realize that 16.66ms at 60fps is one frame right? As long as you are below that, and your frame times are completely stable you aren't going to be able to notice a difference. Most of the human population are not cyborgs. If you spent your time gaming on a 120hz screen for weeks and then suddenly dropped down to 60hz you'd notice a big difference, but that's primarily due to the frame rate, not the input lag. It's been proven time and time again in blind tests that the majority of people can't tell a difference in input lag after a certain threshold and that those who claim that they can are usually lying.
Personally for me i found that some games the image quality appeared blury when i set the resolution at 1080p on my 4k samsung monitor the image wasnt as crisp and sharp
The real fun begins when people don’t know if it’s 4K or 1440p But keeps bullshitn about how great 4K is but actually play on 1440p I testet it with a fuck load of people in Walmart. Even long time 4K users guessed wrong in the majority 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
4k does make a noticable difference at 27 inches. The difference isn't always huge in games, but things like text rendering will be much sharper. Also, with 4k you can use 200% scaling which works better than fractional scaling (even non-dpi aware apps will look sharp)
I really liked your video and agree on many of the things you said. Having said this I would like to share my own opinion. I own a PS5 and have it connected to a 1080p Monitor. But why you'd ask? Regarding movies, at least 60% of my movies are 480p DVDs and about 39.99% are your average 1080p Blu-ray discs. I also own a very small number of 4K UHD disks like the original Star Wars trilogy. The thing here is that although a 4K Monitor would make my 4K UHD disk look crispy clear, my rather large collection of DVDs would look very washed up. Regarding gaming on the PS5 now. Every generation of consoles is much more powerful than the previous one. But every generation of AAA titles will always push the consoles hardware to it's very limits. Practically this means that if you want to play theatest AAA games at 60FPS and not called at 30FPS you gotta set the settings to Performance (similar to gaming where one sets FSR to performance and lowers the rendered resolution in order to increase frame rate). Last but not least, retro games and retro inspired games... How will they look better on a 4K screen given that they have such a low number of colours? Maybe my phrasing here is incorrect but you get the point. Really respect you as a RUclipsr and I honestly love watching your content. So yeah, dont take this as "criticism" or anything like that 😅😊
NOOOOO NOT 60 HZ 😢 watch some benchmarks of the games you want to play and check the different resolutions and what fps you'll get at them with what settings. if you get below 120 fps at 4k with upscaling and frame gen it is usually better to go for 1440p. there are tons of monitors coming out in 2024 and many great ones are out already, i would recommend the oled 1440p 360hz from alienware as the price is good, if you go with 4k make sure you get AT LEAST 144hz. obviously it depends on your usecases what is best. hope this helps :)
Running games at lower resolutions on PS5 makes absolutely no difference in performance All you're doing is downscaling it after it's already been upscaled The internal resolution is still whatever the game's resolution is no matter what resolution you are using
You get higher refresh rates and higher fps in certain games moving up from 60fps to 120fps
Thank you. Ive been looking for this exact answer for an hour
First of all why is that ps5 upside down 🤣🤣
2nd of all the 4090 let's you play 4k resolution the best out of all consumer cards available. Better than "reasonable" 😅
Think it's a deliberate troll but I lol'd
Haha pc gamer lol 😂
@@funkyhomosapien1 3rd of all, 4090 lets you play 4k resolution with the price of more than 2 ps5 with other PC parts excluded. This is the most dumbest "Reasonable".
@@jaz9522 If you have a 4090 it is a reasonable price, so why is it dumb? Dumb because someone who can't afford it then calls it dumb, that kind of dumb :(). You made a well-thought-out reply snigger
I have 32" 1440p 144hz monitor and 50" 4k 60hz TV. Best combination for me and my pc ))
Interesting take, thanks for your work.
I upgraded my system to 7900xt/7800x3d. Gpu is high midrange, CPU should be one of the best.
Coming from a 34“ 144hz 1080p panel i wanted to pair it with a better fit. BUT i dont want to change again in a few years.
So i went with the alienware 4K oled 240hz.
No clue if i will ever see 240fps on it, but i dont care. I will go down in Settings, if necessary but i dont want to go to 1440p for now.
You went with 4k. You'll never downgrade to 1440p
After playing in 4K for couple of years any other resolution looks really bad, so there is no way back.
Debating what to get for my 4080 super and 7800x3d this whole time I’ve been 1080p and heard I’m missing out alot😂
@@r2chy55 alienware has a 1440p 280hz monitor but in a few weeks the new 4k 180hz that can be turned into 1080p 360hz monitor is coming out
@@jonathanchaney6140no point it’s not oled. get 360hz oled
Look the same on my 65 in tv
No matter what 240hz IPS panel you present, IMO an LG 120hz OLED panel will be a better experience due to pixel latency. It feels like 120hz OLED doesnt have the pixel smear that happens with non OLED panels. I would mention you can get a new older LG C series for quite a reasonable price when a new one is released. I do agree that a monitor is half of the experience, having the best hardware with no way to experience it... like being dressed up with nowhere to go.
Yeah 1440P is the sweet spot for fidelity and performance right now. And when factoring in consoles performance and overall GPU prices it just makes sense for those who can't afford to step up to 4K.
When AMD finally catches up with Nvidia with FSR to DLSS (in upscaling quality) and we have 4080-7900XTX performance in the mid range at $400-500.. I think 4K will be a much more approachable target for a lot of people. We also have Sony's PS5 Pro to look forward to but thats more of a 4K 30 machine; that's rumored to be coming the end of the year.
4k 60/144hz, as current gen consoles do 4k30 consistently
@@jayhongfrWith image reconstruction from 1440p or less. Even less than 1080p on some games on Performance Mode. And they kept the same CPU, it will probably run 4K only at 30 FPS or 40 FPS on a 120Hz screen.
did upscaling multiple times on PC games, and on EMU, it was always the same as a medium jump.
Even on vids shows it's not a big jump and pics show this too. I watched vids on my 4K TV and the jump isn't big like I said it's med.
People even on forums say the jump isn't that big in games, PC, or console.
Text is where it shows a big difference from 1440 to 4k,
Unoptimised games struggle to run native 4K even with monster cards like a 3080-4090. That problem doesn't always happen with 1440p, I had been using a 4K screen since last year.
1440 I had used for like 6 year's
4k has been frustration with unoptimized/demanding games even using high settings, stutter/dropped fps
Earlier today got a 1440,feels so good to be back where I was earlier last year and as I said for 6 year's straight,hardly any drops or stutters no more like with 4k,I'm back home
Quick question. If I use a 4k monitor to play games in 1080 on ps5, does the performance is affected in some way? How does that work?
Why not just buy 4K monitor with FSR/DLSS enabled in games? Games can run at high frame rates without sacrificing the image quality of movies.
My LG OLED TV runs at either 1440p at 120hz or 4k at 60hz, and as a casual gamer liking games such as Dead Space and Horizon I'm undecided as to which setting is best for me (I play both PS5 and Xbox Series X games) Obviously I want the best picture possible, but also want it to run as smoothly as possible too, so based on this, am I right in thinking 1440p at 120hz is the best way to go for me?
Im currently on an RTX 3070 and not only wanting to make the bump to a 4k oled monitor but also a new gpu. It seems any gpu outside a 4090 or 7900XTX is really just for 1440p. Im almost thinking Ill wait until next gen on the GPU and get one of the oleds soon.
Im just sitting here wondering if the next midrange gpus will have the same 4k strength as a 4090 or if I should just stick to 1440p.
Probably will eventually like 1440p was at some point only high end PC could run it ages ago so probably happen eventually were mid range can run 4k probably like 5070 or 6070 probably can run 4k good you have the patience because I didn't ^^ but good luck
my 4070 ti super runs basically everything in native 4k
I put this in the search area and I get nothing. Why or how am I getting 4k on 1440p monitors. How is that possible. The Septre . (C325B-QWN168W our of the box. Nothing on this monitor says 4k. It is great and very bright but It does do 4k 3840x2160. Nothing on the box or Amazon says it is 4k. Strange thing is I have a LG t 27QN600-B 27hat used to just get 1449p but I built another PC and while setting up the display using that monitor I noticed it would suddenly do 3840x2160 also. I want to know why this is happening? I hear nobody talking about it.
I’m currently debating if it’s worth keeping my M28U 4k 144hz or getting the LG ultragear 27” 1440 165Hz. I mainly play Fortnite on my PS5. Price difference is $160. I’m leaning more towards keeping the M28U because I feel like I may keep it longer since it has HDMI 2.1, but at the same time my brain is telling me maybe the LG is enough for me plus I would save the $160. Any advice?
Anyways it is the 4k one because 144 at 4k is like a monitor at 1440p with 240 fps and even if you got that your gpu might only get 160 fps so that would be a huge waste. I would recommend the MSI MAG 323UPF 32.0" 3840 x 2160 160 Hz Monitor it is 600 dollars if you really want to get a new monitor but I cannot recommend any new monitor unless you have a 7900 xt or xtx or 4080 or 4090 because any other gpu won’t be able to keep up with the 160 hz at 4k. Because if you have a 144 hz 4k monitor and you usually get around 140 or 150 frames per second it is good if you are also under it you definitely don’t need to buy another monitor. But if you are getting higher than that look for around hz. Remember 4k gets 2x less than 1440p so 144 fps at 4k is equal to around 288 fps at 1440p so when looking for a monitor do that math to see how many hz you should get. Also the panel type is also a big factor all Lowe’s are the best but most expensive even though sometime va panels are ok they are basically just the panels in a tv like the one in your living room or something, they are really dark so if you have to get one make sure it has a very bright display. Ips are the most common and are pretty versatile usually they are pretty good.
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh you have a ps5??? Just use that money to save up for a pc. Because with a ps5 you might not even get 100 fps at 4k. Just stay with your monitor right now it is really good
@@allendorcoodo9305 PC online is deader then ps5 waste of money to build a PC
~ Thanks for this! 💝
Going with a 1440p monitor was the right choice for my components. 👍
The most important aspect of gaming at 4K has been completely avoided in the video, but I don't blame you as very few people know this, more people will be made aware of as time goes on. But right now modern games are being **PLAGUED** by TAA which **DESTROYS** the image quality so absolutely, you actually NEED a full blown 4K panel to render the game properly and have it look simillar to a 1080p or 1440p panel without TAA.
Remember the old days when games looked clear and crisp on 1080p? Your eyes didn't deteriorate, no, you don't need glasses. It's TAA, so much it destroys the image that a 1080p panel looks like a 540p/720p panel with TAA enabled. And a 4K panel looks like a 1080p/1440p panel. TAA also cannot be disabled and IF you do disable it the game turns into a shimmery disaster as TAA is so crucially implemented in the engine it simply breaks without it.
This is perhaps **THE** most important aspect to discuss when you talk about upgrading to a 4K monitor. TAA is a plague upon games, and it must be rooted out.
1440p really would be the sweet spot if TAA weren't so pervasive on most modern games. However, I don't think buying a 4K monitor is necessarily the solution for everyone with lower res screens. DLDSR to upscale to higher resolutions and then downscale it to native res manages to reduce aliasing significantly and for some games with a bad TAA implementation can really clear up the image. It's a bigger performance hog than native 4K (DLSS helps), but its potentially better than having to fork over $500+ for a good 4K monitor just to beat TAA.
So that's why Hell Let Loose looks like a shimmering mess with my current settings 🤣
Simple solution: stop giving money to companies that make games look like shit.
Haven't paid for a game over 49.99 in years. Paid for a lot of 29.99 games. AAAs at 89.99? No thanks
TAA does have it's downsides, but IMO it's a massive improvement over what we had in the Xbox 360/PS3 era (either no AA at all or garbage FXAA).
TAA does blur the image, but unlike the previous post process AA solutions (FXAA, MLAA, SMAA), it's at least very effective at combatting all types of aliasing.
MSAA isn't coming back, it simply doesn't work well with modern game engines. It simultaneously has a huge performance hit, and also isn't very effective in deferred rendering engines.
There are some exceptions like RDR2 which have a poor TAA/DLSS implementation, but DLSS looks really good in most games at 1440p IMO.
That said, I do use a 4k monitor as I have little interest in fast paced multi-player games these days. I mostly play single player games and am perfectly happy with 60 fps and want the best fidelity possible.
Is 4k high setting around 100fps possible with a 4080 super.?
depends on the game. just look up 4080 Super benchmarks.
Thanks for the video, on my end i am running a 32 inch 1440 165hz gsync monitor with a 4090 and really enjoying it. However i am wondering how it would be with a 4k monitor. Also wondering how it would be with an ultrawide 1440p display. I do have my reservations in changing however, because when running cyberpunk at max settings with Ray tracing (no DLSS) the frame rate is 80-90 fps on the 1440p so its still quite taxing on the gpu. Paired it with a ryzen 7800x3d.
If your monitor isn't HDR, I would look into an HDR monitor. Going from 1080p to 4k is definitely noticeable(not as much with supersampling and AI upsampling with DLSS though), but I reckon that 1080P HDR probably looks better than 4k SDR content.
You should upgrade to a 360 hz 1440
On my TV I have 120 Hz Plus VRR capability- but no 1440p capability. Am I set up for at least a "decent" performance quality with my PS5 slim? and perhaps even my PS5 Pro that I'm getting soon?
Great video. I have run a I9-9900K paired to a EVGA 3080 Ti since 2021 (had computer with the 9900K since 2018 when I built it), and I thought I would finally be able to upgrade to a 4K monitor when I upgraded to the new GPU in 2021 and I was wrong. The computer just could not push my favorite games to 100 fps at 4K regularly.
So, I sent it back and got the LG UltraGear 1440p 27 inch monitor and wow....1440p is definitely the way to go in gaming. Everything runs at 100-150 fps at max settings to this day and it still looks fantastic. I know the 4000 nvidia series does a lot better at 4K than the 3000 series did, but based on feedback from friends of mine that I game with regularly, even the 4080 struggles at times keeping frame rates over 60-100 depending on the game.
My theory is by the time the 5000 series is released in 2025, we are probably going to be at a point where 4K graphics especially over 30 inch monitors will be able to become the norm.
Am still confused. I own a MSI 274UPF 27" 144hz 4K with HDMI 2.1 and with my Xbox Series X at 4K-120FPS feels like its sacrificing details and at 60FPS looks more crisp and the game play is almost the same, may be slightly worse on 60FPS, should I keep or return the monitor and buy a 27" 1440p 144hz for $150 less ? .
4k 4090 gang. No OLED though cause I WFH on my PC and would destroy it. :( LG 32GQ950-B pretty decent for IPS. Good work/game hybrid monitor.
Look into the alienware oleds. 3 year burn in warranty.
@@TyrianHaze He said he WFH on it, oleds have crap text because of their non-standard subpixel layout, which is only exacerbated by all the 27" OLED options being 1440p.
@@SanctusBacchus I have an AW3423DWF, and I don't have any issues with the text. I sit around 2 feet from my monitor, and have terrible vision, so it might just be the way I am using it.
I use the Asus PG27AQDM OLED on my PS5. At that size i think 1440p is perfect. I wouldn't mind a 32" but not sure it would fot on my desk how i would like it to
I can buy 4k monitor for films and not gamming fun , but when i just need more fps i can drop my resolution in game to 2k or full hd and still will be fine on 4k monitor right?
bumping this because im really curious too!
@@WanderingLantern I think the big issue here is the size of the screen, because if we have a 27" 4k screen and we spread FHD image on it will look good enough, but what if like me someone is going to buy a 40" screen for movies and sometimes play FHD or 2K games on it? I think that this FHD image will have to be stretched to 40" which will give us 57ppi , a 27" monitor with FHD has 81ppi. There are options for example in asus to adjust the screen to 27" but I guess then you lose the refresh rate of the screen, and what is the point of buying a 4k 38 inch monitor for over $1000 to play in the FHD 60hz window? I'm thinking more and more that I'll buy a regular FHD 160hz monitor
I have a 2k LG ultragear @ 144hz with xtx 7900 24GB and also an oled 4k LG C2 120Hz. Which one should i use for gaming?
Bro, OLED is miles better than any LED on the market, use the LG C2
@@vitorf2303Thanks brother. Using the OLED and its a beast absolutely!!
@@VaibhavSharma86 Funny, 2 sibblings chatting through RUclips.
Are there any 1440p monitors that support hdmi 2.1, VRR, and ALLM for the ps5 consoles?
commenting on this so i get notified when some wizard answers this lol i need a monitor that does all this
Yes the LG 27GR83q-b! (ALLM i dont know tbf you have to check that yourself) let me know
Lg ultragear
ALLM is not needed on gaming monitors because they are already optimised for lowest latency out of the box, the only thing that that you might want to consider is how good the response time is and how good the overdrive settings are. ALLM is a thing on TVs because they have things like auto super resolution, motion smoothing i.e. rudimentary frame gen and other tech like that. This all adds latency and moreover it is designed to work with video, where you have a predetermined stream of frames and would only add latency in gaming applications. So ALLM then is basically an API for the console to tell the tv to bulk disable all these features when it detects input video signal from the console.
Yes Aw2724Dm
i have a rtx 4070 right now i have a 4k monitor at 60hz do i upgrade to 4k with 160hz or go to 2k with around180hz or higher ?
2k is ugly. Colors dont bloom. I have a 4k asus 60hz and colors bloom. But wanted a new pc maybe a 4070 super and getting a 4k 120hz
Im pretty sold on the Alienware QD OLED 4K 240hz. I was interested in LG's 32 inch 4K monitor with the 1080P 480hz mode but LG once again put a MATT coating on the display. Iv been using LG's 1440P 240hz OLED for almost an year so next purchase will defiantly have a Glossy screen.
The think that makes me hesitate with the QD OLED vs the WOLED is the black color being gray when used in bright light.
Yeah I just ordered the 360 hz 1440p qd oled by alienware . Paired w 7900xt and 7800x3d
I got mine few days ago. love it!@@antygee8723
there is no GPU exist to handle 4K monitor with 240hz neither 140hz...you must hit minimum 140fsp with these GPU's on the market non of them can hit over than 100 fps on 4K gaming..i remember something, nvidia said once 4090 will be 8k gaming gpu what happened ? :))) what a liar company..
What u need 240hz for? Fps players thinking they are the next simple if they play on a 240/360hz monitor 😂😂 delusional fools 😂
8k for Pac-Man 😂
i wonder if the thumbnail was to trigger playstation people by placing the ps5 upside down.
So 1440p monitor for my 4080 super is the sweet spot ?
nah you can def do 4K and be alright. raytracing at full with DLSS.
Or should we get cool 38-inch ultra-wide monitor?
Just so you know for Fps games when it comes to frame rate this 100 percent applies, However almost all fighting games are cap locked at 60 Fps to keep things fair on both sides. Great video though very informative! Gonna give a like helped me a lot!
I have the Odyssey g7 monitor paid $700 on ps5 and im currently running warzone at 4k 120 hz with vrr and allm mode on with hdr off ....will i get more fps if i switch to 1440 p or should i stay where im at cus i need every advantage in warzone
u can’t go above 120 fps on ps5 so no
You mean the Neo G7?
You paid 700 for neo G7. They are on sale for 450 and g8 version is 524. Recently bought the g8 since it newer and the same monitor with additional hz.
I have one question bro is it clean to play with vrr and allm what is the difference
WHY DO YA PEOPLE LEAVE THE PS5 UPSIDE DOWN ? the ps5 disc drive is on the left side not to you bro your putting in the ps5 disc upside down ? am i missing something hear too why people putting there ps5 upside-down ?
I think the 5090 will be the right card for 4K 240hz for most games, maybe only not with highest RT settings
If you aim for 4k 60fps, you can get away with a 4070 or even a 4060ti. Ultra settings are mostly not worth it.
I have 3080 ti play every game in 4k no issues get over 60 frames in almost every game
A LG CXis the better choice for ALL media types. Im so glad I paid 2000 for it day 1.
4k gaming is probably going to become easier as the years go on, and honestly, that's what im probably going to wait for
the ps5 hdmi 2.1 can do 4k and 1440p at 120hz so why i don't pick 4k with 120hz?
most ps5 games can only do 4k at 60hz only even with hdmi 2.1 and if you want, 120hz, the quality have to be like 1080 or 1440
this was my question. If I got a 4K monitor for my PS5 If it can’t run 120hz is it just best to get 1440p in order to get max resolution and max frame rate? @techteamgb
@@deionsmith6322 yes. In my opinion if you are in position to give extra money, buy 1440p monitor OLED, you will not regret it. But if you want to stay on budget to say under 400-500 which 4k monitors are, buy a normal 2k with 144hz and you will be fine.
I have a 4k tv and 1440 p monitor. I cant tell a massive difference. But yes 4k is better. However 4k 120 is something i rarely see. 1440 120 ive seen. And i think its a good spot. I am new to pc gaming and my pc is a 4060ti 8gb, 32gb ram, and amd ryzen 7 7700 😂. I cant run 4k at all!!!
Wow, what does it require to run at 4k
@ultrapredatorr 4090 with 16 gb vram will get it to 4k
@@loitersquadX I didn't know thanks
@@ultrapredatorr or get an xbox series x
@@loitersquadX ps5
Mi monitor es 4k. Me recomienda jugar a esa resolución en ps5 o mejor la pongo a 1440p?
4k para juegos graficos, 120 fps para juegos rapidos
2k looks like dog s$&! after you get used to 4k. I’ll gladly take a reduction in fps in order to use 4k.
I have i7 14700k and 4070 what type of monitor should i choose
A 144hz ultra wide 27 it's enough
if you have the hardware capabilities with that kind of power, you shouldn’t be asking what kind of monitor you need
@@bbysak do you have any kind of recommendations?
i use a 55 inch 4k tv with 120hz and a 165hz 1440 monitor for my racing games. I would say don't buy a 4k monitor get the 1440p and if you want to play 4k use your tv. but make sure its at least 120hz
you know yourself xbox x cant hold 120fps at 1080p for a minute so a 120hz + monitor with this gen is pointless.
forza accetto corsa comp mk11 all run at 60fps.
what i would recommend is a 4k 100hz or 75hz monitor but that doesnt fit the platform does it.
i think 1080p is still fine not the best visual quality but it’s enough if you play online games if you do play games that are ment to play on better displays you should get a 1440p monitor which is a good holding ground in between 1080p and 4k, 4k is simply overrated it is not that good most people can’t run or afford 4k so the max i would go for a ps5 is 1440p as well.
the ps5 being upside down the entire time was so jarring. besides that, good vid haha
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What about running games on a lower resolution on a 4k monitor?
It looks awful
Terrible idea. At that point its better to use FSR or DLSS.
@@D71Gamingcoming from someone who can’t afford a 4k monitor. I’m running 4k at 30hz and have no problem at all!
@@jahanbaxter maybe one day you will be able to afford the 4k monitor.
@@jahanbaxter Get a line of credit at dell, wait for monitor deals, and you can get yourself a 32 inch 4k oled monitor for maybe 900 bucks with 12 monthly payments of 75 dollars with no interest.
i have rtx 4080 pc with 1080p monitor and a ps5 with a 4k tv and i feel likee the tv makes it look better
what a waste of 4080 to use it with a trash resolution of 1080
@@smthsmthYeah, like, why doesn't he plug the console to the monitor and the PC to the TV? Or both to the TV? It doesn't make sense.
I have i9 13900 and 4090,dont know if 2k 240 or 4k 144
360hz 1440p oled
4k for sure.
So xbox 1440 or 4k
Now if only the increase in pixels would produce a clearer picture... Am I right? FR tho, with good eyes and resonable sitting distance, anything under 150ppi is a blurry, pixelated mess.
I think for desktop use, 1440p is still the most viable option. You need at least a 32'' before 4K even starts to make any sense, but when you start hitting the 40'' range, it's just too large for most uses or desktop spaces. If you really want to game on a huge screen, and the game plays fine with a controller, just play it on a 65'' or 77'' TV in your living room.
1440p on desktop (PC use) allows you to hit higher frame rates easier as well and usually the pixel density is still pretty high on something like a 27''. Was really happy to hear that there will be 27'' 1440p OLED monitors finally. Easier to run and due to the simple fact that they will be OLED, they will still look better than the previous non OLED 4K screens. So no, it's not an "objective fact" that more pixels = better looking. A 4K TN panel looks like dog shit compared to a 1440p OLED screen.
1440p OLED vs 4K OLED is another matter, but again, before 4K even starts to make sense on a desktop monitor you need to be on at least a 32'' screen. Otherwise, you aren't really going to see more of an improvement than what Antialiasing can already give and you're going to be draining resources for no good reason.
Also, frame times and input lag are grossly overrated after a point. While you might notice a difference between a stable 60fps and 120fps, most people won't actually notice much beyond 100fps, and those who claim otherwise are living in placebo land. Those claiming they "need" a 240hz++ screen for gaming, claiming it really makes a difference for them are full of it unless they're some elite "e-sports" player. And everyone knows those kinds of players only play at 720p anyway. 🙂
You realize that 16.66ms at 60fps is one frame right? As long as you are below that, and your frame times are completely stable you aren't going to be able to notice a difference. Most of the human population are not cyborgs. If you spent your time gaming on a 120hz screen for weeks and then suddenly dropped down to 60hz you'd notice a big difference, but that's primarily due to the frame rate, not the input lag. It's been proven time and time again in blind tests that the majority of people can't tell a difference in input lag after a certain threshold and that those who claim that they can are usually lying.
How about gaming at 1080p on a 4k monitor since 1 pixel maps into 4 pixels perfectly?
Personally for me i found that some games the image quality appeared blury when i set the resolution at 1080p on my 4k samsung monitor the image wasnt as crisp and sharp
@@BulletPr00fGAm3r What inch size is your monitor?
@@GeordiLaForgery 27inch
@@BulletPr00fGAm3r You want to enable 'integer scaling' in the AMD/Nvidia driver settings
The real fun begins when people don’t know if it’s 4K or 1440p
But keeps bullshitn about how great 4K is but actually play on 1440p
I testet it with a fuck load of people in Walmart.
Even long time 4K users guessed wrong in the majority 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
For a monitor this size you don't need 4K. You need 4K when you're playing on big screens 45inch +. For 27inch screen 1440p is more than enough.
4k does make a noticable difference at 27 inches. The difference isn't always huge in games, but things like text rendering will be much sharper.
Also, with 4k you can use 200% scaling which works better than fractional scaling (even non-dpi aware apps will look sharp)
Really good video, thank you! 1440p is it for Ps5 and smooth FPS gaming.
I really liked your video and agree on many of the things you said. Having said this I would like to share my own opinion.
I own a PS5 and have it connected to a 1080p Monitor. But why you'd ask?
Regarding movies, at least 60% of my movies are 480p DVDs and about 39.99% are your average 1080p Blu-ray discs. I also own a very small number of 4K UHD disks like the original Star Wars trilogy. The thing here is that although a 4K Monitor would make my 4K UHD disk look crispy clear, my rather large collection of DVDs would look very washed up.
Regarding gaming on the PS5 now. Every generation of consoles is much more powerful than the previous one. But every generation of AAA titles will always push the consoles hardware to it's very limits. Practically this means that if you want to play theatest AAA games at 60FPS and not called at 30FPS you gotta set the settings to Performance (similar to gaming where one sets FSR to performance and lowers the rendered resolution in order to increase frame rate).
Last but not least, retro games and retro inspired games... How will they look better on a 4K screen given that they have such a low number of colours? Maybe my phrasing here is incorrect but you get the point.
Really respect you as a RUclipsr and I honestly love watching your content. So yeah, dont take this as "criticism" or anything like that 😅😊
Ps5 upside down 😒
That is criminal with how the ps5 is set.
I need help here i play on a ps5 120hz 1440 should i go down to 1080 p its so hard to choose from all i play is mw3
"For FPS games, that means that you can't blame the equipment when you still lose every engagement" lmao
Ty❤
For 4080 shall i go for 4k 60 hz?
NOOOOO NOT 60 HZ 😢
watch some benchmarks of the games you want to play and check the different resolutions and what fps you'll get at them with what settings. if you get below 120 fps at 4k with upscaling and frame gen it is usually better to go for 1440p. there are tons of monitors coming out in 2024 and many great ones are out already, i would recommend the oled 1440p 360hz from alienware as the price is good, if you go with 4k make sure you get AT LEAST 144hz. obviously it depends on your usecases what is best.
hope this helps :)
Get 4k 144-165hz
My ps5 play as gos as my 4790k with my strip 970 overclocked
my parents and my brother have 4k tvs i am 144fps laptop mine looks better.
Yeah 1440 on ps5 is not any better than 2160
Maybe 2025
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