What we get wrong about China. George Yeo in conversation with Alex Stubb
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- Опубликовано: 14 май 2024
- Alex Stubb welcomes STG External Advisory Board member George Yeo to the studio to talk about China's role in the world. Yeo is a Singaporean former politician and brigadier-general who served as Minister for Foreign Affairs between 2004 and 2011.
George Yeo delivered a speech on 23 May 2023 augurating the recently renovated courtroom at Palazzo Buontalenti, which will henceforth serve as classroom and conference hall for the EUI School of Transnational Governance. In this "Geopolitics with Alex" episode, Alex and George zoom in on China's role in the world and how we can better understand China's position.
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China in Europe’s Future and Europe in China’s Future - A keynote speech by George Yeo ruclips.net/video/PEbsmzOA5Hs/видео.html
底下评论真的充分体现英文世界的愚昧不堪。如果欧美还是这种民主专制，洗脑化、宗教化的认知水平，早晚有一天中华文明已经开启星际文明，你们还在地球打嘴炮。中国的成功关键很简单，遵循实践是检验真理的唯一标准，所有概念理论，都必须结合中国的实践来判断是否正确。欧美很擅长制造新概念来让维护自身地位，但面对中国打破他们的宣传后，就越来越多依赖于谎言了。
Communist China occupied Tibet, Xinjiang, Inner Mongolia - Yeh definitely China isn't"expansionist" 😂😂😂
@@jasha9sandhu you should learn more about history before yapping around make a stupid comments. jealousy is a poison for your heart.
@@jasha9sandhu
How ignorant you are!🙄
George, you know what is 漢賊不兩立?
Have you pointed out even 1 wrong doing of China? Or are you intellectually honest?
The most insightful message by Yeo is "watch the full video, not just a few snapshots, before drawing your conclusion"! Unfortunately, quite a few making comments here did not seem to get the message. In this easy media era where snapshots are abundant but full videos lacking, people seldom have the patience to watch full videos. Very often I hear comments about China from those who clearly have no idea what China is like and are simply repeating what they read from Western media. There is no exception here.
i watched 10 minutes of it. Ive been struggling not to post a comment about how Yeo doesnt actually answer any questions.
It seems more like he is just repeating general rhetoric rather than any practical obsevations or useful information.
Seems just. China cool. China interesting. China big.
yeah....those things are true...but not an answer, and not relevant.
@@mjlambert210 you are right: Mr Yeo wasn't answering any questions directly. What he was trying to say is: China is way too complicated for casual discussion. Before you try to pass a judgement on China, try to have some basic understanding. Just like if you try to talk about a movie, don't start from a few snapshots. Try to watch it from begin to end a few times first.
Of course this is not to say everyone who cares should go to China, stay there for a few years, tour around the country and talk to the people there. But for many politicians, journalists, commentators and analysts, talking about China based on what they read in the media or hearsay is just like talking about a movie based on a few flyers advertising the movie.
If you try to find a simple answer, here is one: China is the sleeping lion who is waking up, but she is not a lion who wants to take over the world; it's not in her gene. But she is the Lion King in her territory or sphere of influence. Try to live with her peacefully albeit competitively, she would do the same in return.
@@ymw321 this is a terrible statement. It’s exactly what I was critiquing about mr. Yeo’s statements.
You aren’t answering the question of what practical things can the world do to interact with China on a respectful level.
To just answer with “you can’t have a casual discussion about china”
What? This isn’t casual. This is supposed to be education and informative. An intentional conversation.
@@mjlambert210 I think you just answered your question: being "respectful". Macron was being respectful when he went to China, so he could conduct meaningful and constructive conversations with Chinese leaders. All Chinese leaders want is just that, respect. Unfortunately this is not the case with US politicians. They don't have the patience trying to understand China's values and instead try to impose their values upon the Chinese. That is disrespect.
If one insists on some "universal values" and these so-called universal values are defined by the West, then there is no conversation but only "education". I believe this is also the point Mr. Yeo tried to make.
It's the same CCP crap I've heard a thousand times. "China's culture is "different"". Translation: The Chinese people are too dumb to think for themselves and need a mommy-state like the CCP to look over them like children. Asian Logic = Self-Serving Logic.
Fascinating conversation about China with George Yeo. This is the first time I watch any video twice!
@@olivierverdys4673who are you again?
I always admire diplomats from Singapore. Like George Yeo, they are clear minded, full of wisdom and analyse situations in a calm and impartial way. Thank you Alex to bring George on the platform.
Because he echoes the Communist line.
He has lots of BS.
@@markiobook8639 1450
@@markiobook8639 What is ideological bias, you gave the answer.
@@markiobook8639 😅smart
It's rare to let someone speak with a positive vision of China.I see some people are upset about it in the comments. I have seen many people speak against China without any challenge most of the time, if not all the time
So you don't think the CCP should be challenged when they threaten to "Nuke" other countries ???
This is called freedom of press, which really presses you when you have different opinions.
Amen
@@adamcroft3705 : So you support threatening to "Nuke" other countries.
@@buildmotosykletist1987 US has done so numerous times but I don’t see the likes of you complaining
I'm a Chinese and I think Mr. Yeo presented the most vital approach to understand China, which is through history. One can not understand China without taking historical element into account, because history has been playing a important, if not the most important role in China's government, foreign affair, commerce, much more.
The Chinese dudes with whom I talked they were all utterly uninterested in history. Which really struck me at the time, to the point that I really got annoyed and even angry with them. Whenever i wanted to talk with them about ANYTHING lying in the past, the stereotypical answer was always: That's ALREADY OVER (这个已经去过了), we can't change it (无法改变了), now we must look forward blablah. It would be wrong if I said "I do not buy that history crap", nay, I DO KNOW FOR SURE that for all normal people, especially the young, who are not working for the government, "history" means nothing.
Common understanding of history formed the backbone of Chinese culture, not religion.
Yes, the history of Mao's communist revolution. And don't you think that communism, Mao or revolution are used in some bad way. No.
@@strassmanncai you mean, common indoctrination?
The westerners will just take all the bad history wrap it up and conclude the Chinese are bad.
Simply they love to demonize Asians they think we're obedient and weak. Indeed Americans and Europeans have fought most of wars these 200 years or so.
Orientalism in the history, Japan bashing in the 80s, China phobia now, they always do this way looking down on Asians while self reinfocing the idea of their beloved twisted democracy based on the foundation of sacrificing non white human rights.
Excellent discussion!
Would b good to do an interview with Taiwanese leader also. If opinion of someone who plays both sides matters, someone in the middle of the conflict should matter too?
Oh the Taiwanese leader who is half Japanese you mean.
Not the one who doesn't follow its constitution.
How about Hawaii, Catalonia, or Scotland be invited too?
unbelievable mind! what a great interview
Mr Yeo really knows what he is talking about. Hope more people watch this video. Thank you
Yeah, they'll see him sprouting CCP propaganda and know the threat that the CCP is to the free world.
China only believes in self-benefits... the rest is a waste of time.
Thanks Alex for the very informative interview with Mr. Yeo. I really enjoyed listening to this conversation.
Our Mr George Yeo has the indept knowledge of history of the world. A true statesman.
And man in the street as well. That is how Chinese are brought up.
a china lackey ?
Such great wisdom. Excellent insight.
a china lackey ?
Salaam Geirge Yeo
Such clarity and grasp of geopolitical realities and possibilities
I thoroughly enjoyed this interview and found it to be quite insightful. However, I couldn't help but feel that it could have benefited from a longer duration, allowing for a deeper exploration of the topic and the inclusion of nuanced perspectives, similar to the podcasts hosted by Lex Fridman.
I used to be a fan of Lex until he brought Yeonmi Park on there. Giving her a platform for more propaganda was just insane.
@@monophthalmus3254 "insane".
@@olivierverdys4673 The most insightful message by Yeo is "watch the full video, not just a few snapshots, before drawing your conclusion"! Unfortunately, quite a few making comments here did not seem to get the message. In this easy media era where snapshots are abundant but full videos lacking, people seldom have the patience to watch full videos. Very often I hear comments about China from those who clearly have no idea what China is like and are simply repeating what they read from Western media. There is no exception here.
agreed - I could watch this if it was 2 hours
@@monophthalmus3254 i couldnt agree more.
Great conversation.
Just a wonderful & enlightening conversation
George has a wealth of knowledge and wisdom which should help guide all leaders in today’s misguided world
God bless George!
Great discussion. So many more questions to ask him!
Fascinating conversation. George’s explaination on China by George from a very different perspective
Different from an American perspective - yes I would agree.
He's preaching the Chinese propaganda, that's all.
This remark also applies to all parties. Everyone is preaching their own gospel but not many are actually interested to listen and learn about their differences
@@taiwanlife6531 ... Says the CIA bot. Stop making sh->yyit up.
Because the West loves China too much. Westerners love China so much, all Westerners have become Jesus, willing to die to bring democracy, justice, happiness, human rights, etc. to Chinese people. So, it has nothing to do with whether we are right or wrong about China.
Jumping from the 1911 revolution to 1979 skips so much important history
One century of humiliation history from west should be important as well.
@@Qiushishuo It was much less then a century and get fucking over it. 2 world wars happened since and all the people involved in both those wars get along well now. Germany and France are actually allies... Why do all China's neighbors hate China? Because of the west? Why are Vietnam, the Philippines, India, Burma and even Mongolia so anti Chinese? Because of the selfish actions of the Chinese, not the west. Funny that the US has much better relations with Vietnam compared to China considering they had the most recent war with them. How many centuries will you keep on humiliation Tibet and the Uygur people?
I watched the whole video throughout my dinner, enjoyed it thoroughly. 😊
👏👏👏 bravo for Mr Yeo
For your information, there is a group of originally Chinese citizens who have migrated to other countries due to a few reasons: especially during the era before 2010 when China was not so prosperous, was being swayed by the so-called freedom of the world outside China, for the well being of their future generations, etc. However, as China is becoming more and more prosperous and successful nowadays, it has created a rather unique situation where it has caused imbalance and twisted inner mind to this group of immigrants in the sense that they feel inferior to their peers who remained staying in China, especially when comparing to their close friends and relatives who have done much better than them. In order to strike a phycological balance, this group of people tend to spread any info in trying to smear and defame China while continue worshipping the so-called freedom and human rights of their newly adopted countries whenever possible. They just couldn't live a day without thinking back of China and the decisions they have made, kind of mental struggle. These people are called the "motherland haters". What a weird and miserable species of human🤭
People who can't live with their mistakes....sad, but nothing new really
You nail it! 👍👍👍👍👍
Really sorry for these guys.
On top of that they wouldn't mention they are being treated like second class citizens in their adopted countries
So damn right!
This is called "convert fanaticism"
Thank you!
Mr George Yeo, when you were in PAP, I ignored all your speeches. This video gave me a refreshed view of you.
Sorry George but the UK gave Scotland the opportunity to vote for independence or staying in the UK - the CPC does not offer Taiwan the same choice.
That is exactly what George Yeo is trying to say. The UK has to give Scotland the opportunity.. not the USA, not Scotland but UK. You made George Yeo's point even more succint. Thank you.
🤣Do you mean that if the Scotland want to be independent, the UK will make it independent?
last I check Taiwan is not part of UK, so what gives you the right to judge, I don't know any chinese people in Asia that is questioning UK's legitimacy in Scotland, N.Ireland, nor U$ legitimacy in Hawaii, Guam, Diega Garcia etc.
Why do europeans always have a moral highgroud?
Is it because you consider yourselves Aryan Race?
Very interesting discussion……
Thank you very much for George and Alex with their insightful conversation. Thanks a lot...
Thank you
By comprehending Mr. Yeo's perspectives, I immediate realize Chinese people just have a gift in politics. Facing of many global issues as of now, most of answers seem already being written in chinese collapse-and-resurrection history.
你说对了 5000年的成人和247年的孩子在对理解人生的真谛理解一样，谁懂得会更多？ 高下立判。
History does help in someway but not for sure or not for that much, cause:
1. History tends to lost in details or sometimes are distorted in recording and understanding or interpretation, besides that, people are forgetful.
2. Even if you know history well, you just can't change the fate of a dynasty, in the past or in the future. Few people are powerful/smart enough to divert the cause of the established system, even if you know the problem, know the answer, just see how Trump MAGA.
@@user-ry7vm9tb2v
一個 經過 5,000年進化的老人, 對於 尊重人權 尊重人性 尊重民主自由 的修為, 竟然 不及一個 進化只有 247年的小孩.
你是否覺得 這老人的 品質 品格 極為劣質, 不配做人類？
The ultimate goal of China is to destroy United States to dominate the world. 😢 😢 ❤ ❤
You know what the meaning of "China" is in Chinese. It means "a country in the middle of ... " or " 'Middle' Country". That is, all tribes around China are "barbarians" or "inferior tribes". The ancient emperors were called "The Son of Heaven (God) or 天子"
For more than 3,500 years, the ancient China Dynasties always considered themselves to be superior to all surrounding tribes.
For nearly every ancient China Dynasty, once they had got into a united, stable and prosperous state, they started expanding outward, annexing foreign territories, committing genocide on foreign tribes if necessary to eradicate any possible challenges.
THIS, is the real China today you are facing.
Don't be as naive as these scholars, who know so little about Chinese history.
@@justice9325 现在美国人会战斗到最后一个乌克兰人 以后美国人也会战斗到最后一个台湾人 只有美国人才配享有自由 其他的生物都是为实现美国自由的养料而已.
Thanks for a great intellectual conversations sharing.
Best discussion yet!!!
Bravo 👏 👏 👏
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻love you George Yeo, world must have more wise man like you
"The passions of a democratic electorate can sometimes get out of control." Jeezus...
A perfect example is the American people's and congresspersons' reactions after 9/11. America was united, but it definitely did get out of control (for an understatement).
Spoken like a true authoritarianism who doesn't love populism or the need to channel the will of the people.
I’m really disappointed this guy has a ccp troll and gives him airtime.
It’s disgusting.
What’s wrong with this statement? Remember how Hitler got his power?
Is he wrong?
I laughed out loud when he said Chinese women are the most liberated in history. How much is the CCP paying this guy
You must have problems understanding English. George Yeo said that compared to women living in other Asian countries such as Malaysia, Indonesia, Korea, etc. Chinese women enjoy a higher level of society liberalization (post 1949) compared to women in those above mentioned countries. This is a fact. If you haven't in a Muslim country in South East Asian and in China, you wouldn't know about this fact would you?
To you, anyone who puts out fact on China is paid by the Communist Party of China. You are the representation of how low western media has gone.
Apparently listening comprehension is an issue for a lot people here
Gen. Yeo is right on this issue.
Thankyou - so sober
Really good view!
Wow! HE George Yeo hit the right notes by comparing the Chinese and the Catholicism leadership. Spot on.
no. it was a bad comparation. It's only comparable to the middle ages in Europe when church tried to control everybody and every thing. Now the CRC stays out of politics, as it should
Well, I wish I was wrong, but I found that what I heard from Mr Yeo sounds similar to what I read from Japanese imperialists in the 19th century. The imperialists argued that Japan is so exceptional, it is totally different to Europe which is based on Judeo-Christian values, but managed to maintain peaceful and harmonious unity throughout a long history based on totally different cultures and values. So they concluded that what the Westerners have brought to East Asia cannot, and thus should not be applied to the region they want to dominate. Well, I might be willing to accept the claim that so-called "Western values" may be proven to be "not that much universal." But should we think East Asia is an absolutely different entity from the so-called Western world?? As one who studied Confucious and Aristotle, I do believe, even though there must be some differences, any human beings are basically equal and have universal features. Even some Confucians who had lived in my country believed so. And as one who is watching history in the region, what I found in the history of each of the East Asian nations was a totally different reality. All of them have domestic conflicts from different interest groups, resulting in a repeated history of division and reunification. All of them have attempted expansionist campaigns at least more than one time for their unilateral interest. I think paying too much emphasis on the differences between "the West and the East" be we East Asians is a kind of narcissistic version of Orientalism. This bad inclination will mislead us.
Absolutely. This is a Chinaphile waxing lyrically on a favourite topic who is familiar with Singaporean authoritarianism and should remember how that control turned SG into an efficient nation of middle managers and not the creative powerhouse that it could be.
Exactly. It’s disgusting this troll is given a platform.
Whoever says China is not imperialist should check history when they violently took Tibet. When they tried to invade Vietnam. As they are currently in a border dispute with India.
Yeah they aren’t imperial that’s the biggest lie of the century.
These people know nothing about history.
Not to mention the current genocide in xinjiang. But they are peaceful?????
That’s garbage.
Every civilization has their own idea of their exceptionalism that itself forms the foundation of the state's reason for existing. Taking away or denying a civilization their idea of exceptionalism is the start of threatening a state's very existence. We should instead ask of how to redefine and reconstruct the ideology of exceptionalism in a positive way.
I think comparing China to then imperial Japan is wrong. Japan adopted completely the western value and way of life during the Meiji restoration while China (qing dynasty) rejected. Japan launching wars in 19&20 century has nothing to do with its exceptionalism but out of economic / political / cultural (colonialism was mainstream in western world back then) reason.
Expansionism in China has never had its soil in ‘Han’ culture which essentially has its agricultural core. As a Chinese, I can say none of the people I know would link the country prosperity with larger territory. It just doesn’t have a social base. Now Taiwan is a more complicated issue. Even that, I think the chance that CCP taking Taiwan by force is extremely small unless it is cornered internationally/domestically. Just want to give a bit credit to the analysis from the guest speaker. For the record I do not support CCP in case anyone would call me troll.
This is excellent!! Hard to find such deep curiosity and inquiry around history today in the USA
sadly this was not in the US ... but in Europe :)
Not sure I would agree with what was said. But very interesting to see how the Han view themselves and American sailors
@@ysw8291 Americans are the allies of my country and they are defending the right of navigation and democracy. I very much disagree with any philiosopy that advocates killing of people - like in Ukraine today for defending human rights. By your definition I have no right to life.
What we get wrong about China is how peacefully they torture Uighur muslims and other minorities and demolish their places of worship. And how shamelessly and hypocritically the OIC (Organization of Islamic Countries) and Pakistan ignores this while being concerned about the democracies of Israel, India and the West :D
Because the West loves China too much. Westerners love China so much, all Westerners have become Jesus, willing to die to bring democracy, justice, happiness, human rights, etc. to Chinese people. So, it has nothing to do with whether we are right or wrong about China.
Well said! Keep going Peace for the world 🙏
Much needed insight on China to help the west understand it better. And avoid the catastrophic consequences of misunderstanding and fear on the geopolitical stage. Thank you !
it is not misunderstanding. it is toxic hate and jealousy
@@alsetalokin88 you are the one filled with toxic hate, etc, evidently
@@Lost_Johnny you're making no sense and in denial
@@Lost_Johnny stop consuming the toxic hateful lying western media right away. there is still hope.
The West's behaviour clearly shows they don't care for insight and understanding. They want what they want and if they don't get it. You're the problem not them.
Thank you,the great George Yeo of Singapore!
a china lackey ?
"China never wanted to conquor other nations"?
What did it do to Tibet, Inner Mongolia, and Xingiang?
No, China didn't want to. If you are saying the long history, read some books in Yuan, Ming, Tsing Dynasty. There was certain complexity rather than "China conquers them".
When the BRICS Currency is fully accepted - first they must have one. And the dollar-dept outside the US is huge, and to get out of the $ the $-debts first must be paid, which will push the demand for $ further. Check out the inflation rate of the BRICS-Countries and specially of the countries, that announced wanting become part of the BRICS. "Want to do" and "able to do" are not the same thing.
No more war I pray, with the Russian Ukraine crisis, all markets have gone wild. This is the riskiest time to invest! Most expensive market ever, most leverage in market ever, interest rates rising, inflation nightmare, and war!
Expensive true if you are holding the bag like me, if you are fully invested and have taken a hit you gotta pay the ultimate price, what can you do about it?
You can properly diverse your portfolio now. If you didn’t close your positions, you might not be safe and if you did inflation will devalue your money. Consult with a financial advisor, the markets are crazy enough to make a lot of profit likewise a lot of loss.
@@lowcostfresh2266 I agree, where can one find a qualified, reputable one? I stay in New Mexico I can hardly get any of them here to answer questions.
@@TomD226 I work with Laurel Dell Sroufe a retirement planner and independent adviser, who grew my down position of $250k to $438k in 6 months outside my traditional IRA and on a brokerage, the model uses defensive strategies to keep track of funds that we have set aside.
I always learned something after watching George’s speeches. A great thinker
He simply parrots CCP propaganda. I don't think that "thinking" is involved at all in his analysis.
@@kenharvey8161stupidest comment..
@@jeromestavrosyeo4333 He has twisted history and facts to support the CCP's narrative. Fortunately, the world knows better now. Taiwan doesn't belong the PRC, and the CCP repeating that it does won't make it more true.
Thank you, values, of singapore minister george yeo.😊
Fascinating discussion
Singapore officials, like this one, are always a two cuts above the typical bureaucrats you find in gov't.
Singapore plays both side. Their rewards.. wealth and security.
小心两边都不是人！
@@AllisGoodperhaps Never place all your eggs in one basket.
Thank you George Yeo! 👍🙏🙂
this is great !!
The video title is what do westerners get wrong about China, but I've heard most of the points he covers before. Some new insight, but I was hoping for more.
I suppose there is more if you compare what he says the aspirations are to what has historically happened.
Thank you for this really informative and necessary program, my vision on china has changed deeply
Excellent interview! I have great respect for Mr. Yeo, he, like many other Singaporean leaders, has penetrative insight and pragmatic wisdom.
With all due respect, may I point out one minor misunderstanding about Chinese revolution: the genuine female equality: women's education, equal employment and equal pay, bound feet ban, arranged marriage ban and equal rights to community property, child custody, the right to inherit, and etc., were all done after 1949, under the leadership of the Chinese Communist Party. The revolution in 1911 only had certain ideals, but no implementations.
I remember one of my relatives talking about 1949, small working groups of the local gov and the PLA would get to the rural areas helping women to release the binding of their feet, ban parents from binding the feet of young children (it must be done seven eight years old, otherwise the bones get too hard), organizing women to learn to read to become literate, to support young women to marry b/c of love (escaping arranged marriage etc.)...
It's the CPC.
You are right. In China, women's rights even surpass men's rights. This is an incredible and great achievement. Real equality between men and women.
And land reform!
“China and the Catholic Church” that was brilliant 😂
???? What does it mean? Country and Religion? Doesn't make sense
@@cachet633it has an opinion said China is a civilization pretended to a country,many of Chinese agree with it(including me).China have a same political religion,the political religion have changed and grown through the history river,but the objective never changed,in Chinese its called 大同，its birth in a ariticle write about 2500years ago,these 2500years China gov(whatever kinds of goverment)and people do all the things its wants to close to it.the first sentence of it :the most common and right way is public(大道之行也，天下为公）.
these kind of public including a peason can change his social class,and so on( in the article have discrbled soe of them).China is similar like a religion,difference with western its,its for political not for thology.
fascinating and insightful... well done!
A good communication between two great minds out of East & West. Thanks!
Good CCP propaganda between two small minds out of East & West.
You are interviewing the Foreign Minister of China.
Mr. George Yen’s sentiment aligns Beijing’s perspective as well.
I genuinely dont understand: if China really believes in its own system, why does it feel the need to censor contrary views in its own nation? Why not argue your case on its merits, rather than rely on silencing dissident voices? I am open to answers because i genuinely wanna know and i wanna hear answers.
The Chinese government censors views that affect the country's political security and avoids expanding its influence leading to social unrest. Europe, the United States and Western countries dominate the international media of public opinion, and at the same time, China's vast territory and large population are prone to turmoil caused by Western political propaganda, resulting in China's inability to develop stably.
Because every household is run differently. I hope you are not expecting all parents are the same.
@@syke76 That was a beyond pathetic answer to a reasonable question.
The point is, the majority of people in Taiwan do not want to be a part of the People's Republic of China. They would loose their indepedance, their freedom, the economic power, their rights, their democracy. And they would gain absolutely nothing in return. They would have no say in what happens to their island, what the future development would be. They have seen what happened to Hong Kong, and they do not want that for Taiwan.
So you support Scottish independence?
@@exocre9193 That's all you have in terms of an argument? Pathetic.
@@yaya-zl1bn Well, you know, there was a referendum, wasn't there?
Majority of Taiwanese wants status quo, which is defacto autonomy, not independence.
@@yaya-zl1bn My dear, the impotant is that you get your facts right. Myself, I have absolutely no interest is siding with one or the other.
So, Scotland is not an island, but it is part of the whole landmass of Great Britain. So Taiwan cannot be compared to Scotland. Scotand is same as USA and Mexico - part of the same landmass.
You can compare Taiwan island to Irish island. The Irish, after a five year struggle by the Irish people, (4/5 ) of the island became an independant state - Today called The Republic of Ireland.
The problem of Taiwan is that first of all, what was not mentioned is that The Communists gained control of mainland China and established the People's Republic of China in 1949 ie soon after the end of WW2 forcing the leadership of the Republic of China ROC to retreat to the island of Taiwan.
Since then, 1949, the ROC has continued to exercise effective jurisdiction over the main island of Taiwan and a number of outlying islands.
So this war left Taiwan and China each under the rule of a different government.
In 1987, martial law was lifted in Taiwan and Taiwan began a democratisation process including the acceptance of multi-party politics and the first free direct president election by the people in 1996.
And the people keep electing electing the man or women that want to keep Taiwan Independant. In a Taiwanese Free Public Opinion Foundation poll conducted in June 2020 to understad the people better - 54% of respondents supported independence for Taiwan, 12.5% favored unification with China, and 10% did not hold any particular view on the matter.
Xi knows this same as everyone does. But, and this is unfortunate really, Xi always made public that unifying Taiwan with China is "His Dream."
And after he was re-elected recently, he committed himself AGAIN EVEN MORE to achieving His Dream to the extent that now, if he does not achieve His Dream - it will be construed by his opposition as His Failure.
"I have a dream" is a danger for all humanity and unfortuately again, the once that suffers the most are the peopleo on both sides of the fense.
Look at the Ukraine war. Another Dream ad over 8.2 million had to leave their homes as refugees fleeing across to Europe, while an estimated 8 million others had been displaced within the country by late May 2022. This is apart from the thousands of Russian and Ukraine man/soldiers that suffered death.
The comparison of Taiwan and Catalonia or Scotland is different. Referedum on Scotland and Catalonia for independence had been allowed but not Taiwan.
The one thing the western never figured out is no matter who sits on that chair, he is never the only warrior fighting against the enemies.
Thank you for a pleasant change in tone. We in the global west spend too little time listening to alternative perspectives.
K goodbye to freedom of speech and any social programms then. Enjoy.
His understanding of China is somewhat outdated, but it is still a lot better than most Western policy makers.
In his discussion of China's cultural and philosophical underpinnings, he understates the degree to which the regime has influenced cultural values and how traditional Chinese philosophy has, in return, restructured the regime's understanding of its own ideology.
The PRC has been and continues to be shockingly candid and insightful about itself. There is no doubt in my mind that they represent the great majority of Chinese people, despite how lacking or un-democratic their electoral system might be.
cultural values = confucianism beliefs. That has been a Chinese universal beliefs regardless of your religion. It has never been outdated. Sure, we may disagree with their political system but at least the art of war has been maintained and uphold. China historically even till today do send their officials to Singapore to study governance and the art of policies making.
@reubenkhj4296 There is far more to Chinese culture and philosophy than Confucianism. While the roots of those values and philosophies generally trace back to 500-200 BCE, and while they generally follow the same themes, they are far from static. Confucianism, for example, meant different things at different points in history. What we have seen in the past decades in China is a revitalization of those founding values of Chinese culture and a resurgence of philosophical debate and dialogue, the likes of which haven't been seen in centuries.
What the PRC regime has accomplished is an alignment of political ideology with cultural values and philosophies. Over the course of a century, historical trends and events have pried China away from its previously sedentary and outdated framework of governance. The result, however, is not the abandonment of traditional values and philosophies, but rather their revitalization. In more recent decades, through much struggle and suffering, the persistence of said values and philosophies have selected, molded, and adapted the regime's understanding of its own ideology and style of governance. The folly of likening China to the late USSR is that China's "socialism with Chinese characteristics" is more about Chinese than it is about socialism, just as the USSR was more about Russia than it was about socialism. China doesn't give a shit whether you want to become just like China. China is only concerned with how China is to be managed and directed towards a brighter future for its people and itself.
China has never become strong by vanquishing its foes. Rather, China vanquished its foes by virtue of its strength. What western policy makers need to realize is that China isn't out to get you, so don't make yourself its mortal enemy. China has been a superpower for most of its existence, and there is no way that it wouldn't relapse into being a superpower again. Except this superpower of 1.4 billion people and 29% of world industrial output is perfectly happy to just be left alone. The gentle giant has even shrugged it off when you poked it with twigs. Don't keep challenging its core national interests and sovereign integrity. Keep doing that, and it might just get angry at you. You don't want that to happen.
@@Dermisc Why do you know China so well?
Didn't you listen to what he said? Except for a brief period when China established the "Republic of China" (partly democratic in 1912 to 1949 when KMT was governement) all the rest of history has China being ruled by an authoritarian government.
Authoritarian rule is all they know in their 5,000 year of history. They are used to authoritarian rule, they like authoritarian rule. The people are willing to give up some of their rights/freedom (mostly political freedom) in exchange of a government that will take care of them and provide them with security, protection, homes, so they can have a good living.
You ask them if they want to be able to vote and they would say "Why?". It would mean them having to invest their time and learning all the issues to be able to be an intelligent voter. They'll just say, "leave that to the party members who are committed and know what its all about. They are more interested in making money for themselves.
@rap3208 First of all, the Republic of China from 1912 to 1949 was not a democracy. Secondly, Chinese people do get to vote. I personally witnessed their voting process while I was working in China, much to my surprise. Sure, their system is rigged elsewhere to make sure their dominant political party stays in control, but China does have other political parties, and some of those representatives do get elected at times.
Lastly, to claim that any nation or people is grossly uninterested in the governance of their society is simply bigotry. Yes, Chinese people have a lot of faith in their government, but so do Canadians and Americans. It's not an isolated incident that you'd come across Canadians and Americans claiming that someone in their government must have done the research and made intelligent and informed decisions on any given subject matter. For example, let's start with why we must make China our number 1 enemy. All you'd get is regurgitation of official policy. Nobody can give you an answer when you keep digging with more why's. Everything about China is blown way out of proportion here, but the average person doesn't seem interested in questioning the direction of our foreign policy. Does that mean that Canadians and Americans don't care for democracy?
Oh, and on money... Who on earth doesn't want to make more money? I'm not a billionaire. I want more money.
Is it possible for the uploader of the video provide a quick summary of the findings? That way it becomes searchable, and I can quickly grasp your ideas...
@@olivierverdys4673 It was not a sarcasm. The problem with video is as what I have said, content not searchable, the search engines can add a feature to cover the close captioning. I don't think it is available yet.
great conversion!
Want to understand China? Think of the Catholic Church! Actually, the most illuminating advice I heard in a long time. It was a pleasure to listen to this interview. Thank you.
Indirectly George Yeo confirmed my earlier understanding and believe that Catholic Church is a political entity. It probably was never a religious entity right from the beginning.
Wanna to understand Amarika?
Think of Epstein and Irak.
Completely incorrect erroneous and simplistic understanding of the Catholic Church. False similarity. Catholic Church never murders.
@@markiobook8639 sure, RC priests sure brings a whole new meaning to loving them altar boys. LOL
@@markiobook8639have your ever heard of burning at the stake? The church also had its dark history of killing heretics in the past.
Great to see that George Yeo was invited to share his views and thoughts. Yet, a major pity that Alex accepted his assertions as is, without the slightest challenge, resulting in a simplistic one-sided view without any robust arguements to support it. A pity, considering its George Yeo, who has such a wealth of knowledge and experience about China as a third party. I was looking forward to a more robust exhange. A quick look through the comments page showed I wasnt the only one feeling disappointed.
My thoughts exactly. A bit of a wasted opportunity in my opinion.
George Yeo and his ilk are shills for the CCP.
I agree with you completely. In history China conquered other countries like vietnam. So I do not agree with Yeo . He is Chinese so he is biased
Amazing, so many guys so much cleverer and much more knowledge-able than George Yeo. World is so peaceful with so many extremely knowledgeable people 😯
@@toothpick5932 lol! you are so desperate that you have to pull out an example from ancient history before the birth of Jesus Christ, lol again. Perhaps you can't make the chinese invasion of vietnam territory in 1979 in support of their ally Cambodia because they voluntarily withdrew after less than 3 weeks?
I usually enjoy Prof. Stubb's interviews....this one was a poor one. China PR is what this was.
Would appreciate audio captured could be louder so that is clearer, keep it up.
His arguments for why China can't be a democracy aren't very convincing.
China's size?
Well, India is even bigger now and has democracy under more difficult circumstances than China.
China's long culture?
As he said, China changed massively in 1917, from dynasties to a republic, from oppressing women to liberating women. Why can't it change again to become a democracy? The Taiwanese share most of their history with the Chinese, yet they have moved from authoritarian rule to a highly functional democracy.
democracy by voting? a disater system, China just doesn't want it. If China adpoted the western democracy, China's GDP is half of India today rather than 400%.
Taiwan might be chinese ethnic stock but it really is a small country. To compare China and Taiwan is like comparing Apple and oranage.
In terms of India, you will realized to get things done in India is very difficult. Even in parliamentary debates, India might have 100 politicians at the parliament but there are probably 10,000 views and oppositions. This is also one of the reasons why India growth rate will not be at China's breakneck pace.
This guy is full of shit. A lot of what he says is simply not true or doesn't make sense. One of the reasons why the CCP wants to take over China is because it's an existential threat to the CCP. It shows Chinese people that Han Chinese people can live under a democracy and be far more successful and free. Just look at the GDP per capita of Taiwan vs China. Taiwan doesn't even have any resources. They are a tiny island and still far more educated, successful and cultured than China. This is all the fault of the CCP because they are turning China into a larger North Korea just to stay in power. That is the only thing the CCP cares about.
@@MrJermson India is more like the holy roman empire.. each state practically a country onto itself.. many of which are larger in population than most countries.. also being a democracy doesn't mean things go smoothly. That being said India has made some major gains recently and there seems to be a real effort to compete with China and be a regional power.
India has no choice but to be some sort of lose federal democratic system because it is not ethnically unified.
Even so India has MANY problems not least still happening concurrently which the usual West sycophants prefer not to highlight, like the discrimination against Muslims, illegal occupation of Kashmir and an ongoing insurgency crack down in Eastern India whose people are not Indian by nature.
Clearly you have not understood a word of George Yeo.
China had its brush with democracy which did not work. It ended in war lordism, corruption and exploitation.
Political systems are not sacred. They exist only as they are useful and effective. In China's case, the political system has delivered unprecedented growth and liberalisation of the human potential.
India is still stuck in caste system and an extremely unequal wealth to poverty structure.
Comparing the two is impossible. China does it its own way, India does it its way. Both have their own cultural and historical circumstances to deal with.
Unfortunately many West and their sycophants are too simplistic and believe democracy is a panacea for all ills.
It is not. 2 decades of democracy in Afghanistan brought zero development. Democracy to Libya has left a dysfunctional state where modern slavery is rampant.
This is the problem. Most people here prefer to treat democracy as know in the West as a religion. They are bound by their own mental limitation and group think.
George Yeo is correct that China sees its political system as evolving.
The irony is whilst China is a 'close system' it is open to change. Whilst the West is an '0pen system', it cannot change even if many societies in democratic countries are fraying like say the US.
I've been a fan of the series, but can't say I found George very persuasive. He would have to have been presented with quite a few (I think pretty obvious) pushbacks to address them satisfactorily, vs a number of unsubstantiated assertions he makes here.
George Yeo wasn't trying to be persuasive. He gave his views on China from the perspective of a person of Chinese ethnicity who is from Singapore. What George Yeo is trying to do is to get the word out there that there are almost 8 billion people in the world and the western's persective of China isn't the only perspective and on the contrary the majority view of China (population wise) may be totally different from the western's view.
You may think that the entire world hates China but the fact may well be quite different.
You are likely raised in a society and environment that is based on Judeo-Christian tradition (you may disagree) and that trumpets that the western liberal democracy is the panacea for all the ills in the world and there is only one system that works (like there is only one God). George Yeo knows about the mindset of the west for he himself is a devout Catholic. He knows that no amount of persuasion can sway you from your upbringing.
The irony is that there may be more brainwashing in the west that there are in China.
@@civicblade1 You are right. It is very funny for someone who only knows the West way to question the wisdom of George, who knows both China and West very well, on China without any solid evidences.
@@civicblade1 Uighurs,Tibetans, Taiwanese, Vietnamese,Filippinos all aprove, they are brainwashed and Chinese are not or are less so.
Far away? Yes, before the internet. Yes, before oil. Not much said about global modern international trade was there? Not a word. There is nothing historic about China and Taiwan's current day global trade positions. That is very modern power. How can anyone compare the reunification of DDR and W Germany with the reunification of Taiwan with China from a financial and trade perspective of the two countries involved? Was DDR the 11th largest global goods exporter or making 60% of the world's technology building blocks (semiconductors) and 90% of the most advanced tech (highest tech semiconductors)? No. That technology is already firmly embedded in every facet of modern day culture and infrastructure in so many countries globally.
@@jam99 You mean the principles go out the window if you're dealing with entities with different power status (bigger or biggest exporter or biggest tech producer or whatever) or with different asset valuation. Come on what happened to "Do the right thing ... Did it ever cross your mind "
Thank you for this insightful appetizer.
I now wish to move on to the main course, please.
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BTW
A deep understanding of Europe requires equally to take its history into account: all thousands of years of it!
Alas, even among Europeans there is very little taste for it.
And THAT creates the impression of a continent of jigsaw puzzles....
George Yeo, Singaporean apparatchik, talking out both sides of his mouth. Pretty sure he and others of his ilk would be singing a different tune if, say, Malaysia starst insisting they have the right to take back Singapore because of historical reasons (the Malays being the original inhabitants of the island of Singapore).
Malays sold SG to British East India Company. They did not take SG by force. Malaysia and SG separation is official which both parties agreed. Malaysia has no right to say SG is still part of Malaysia or belongs to Malays. Are you from the jungle David Koh?
or how LKY get rid of the communists in Spore, LKY didnt think that they are harmless or good for Spore, that was not that long ago, george yeo shld know the spore history of how LKY deal w the communist
Can George Yeo also provide an explanation on the PRC's expansionist policy in the South China Sea? Uyghur genocide? Human rights abuses? Are these justifiable from the perspective of China's history?
China's claim in South China Sea is backed by history. In Ming Dynasty, Chinese had been living and fishing on the islands in SCS. During WWII, Japanese invaded and occupied the islands in SCS. At the end of WWII, the Allied countries established several official documents forcing the Japanese to return all the islands in SCS back to the Republic of China.
@@MrHistoryFan China's historical claim of islands in the South China Sea is baseless. Da Ming Hunyi Tu or the Amalgamated Map of Ming Dynasty shows that China's territory is only until Hainan.
@@MrHistoryFan How can you claim historical islands that never existed? =D Also what about Tibet? And what excuse do you have to exterminate the Uygurs?
@@FragLord 1. There have been islands in SCS. For example, you can search for Taiping island in SCS.
2. Tibet became part of China in 1720s during Qing Dynasty. That was way before Texas became part of USA.
3. Uyghur population grew from 3.5 million in 1949 to 12 million now. Tell me what kind of genocide would cause such a growth?
@@MrHistoryFan
1) Nobody disputes the existence of islands in the SCS. However, dredging entire new islands and claiming those as a historic claim is pure hypocrisy. Not to mention that the islands China claims are all claimed by nations much much closer to those nations, like the Philippines or Vietnam. And the large aggression of China has alienated potential allies in that area. Vietnam already was an enemy of China, now it has doubled down and is on the verge of allying the USA.
2) Tibet was conquered, not became part, until 1912. It was de facto independent until 1951 until China invaded again.
The People's Republic of China (PRC), founded in October 1949 by the victorious Communists under the leadership of Mao Zedong, lost little time in asserting a new Chinese presence in Tibet. In October 1950, the People's Liberation Army entered the Tibetan area of Chamdo, defeating sporadic resistance from the Tibetan army. In 1951, Tibetan representatives participated in negotiations in Beijing with the Chinese government. This resulted in a Seventeen Point Agreement which formalized China's sovereignty over Tibet, but was repudiated by the present Tibetan government-in-exile.
No idea why you would bring up Texas, since 1 i'm not American and 2 I don't care. Also Texas CHOSE to be a part of the USA. Tibet didn't have a choice. Tiny but big difference there. So next time if you want to use an example, make sure the comparisons add up...
3) The targeting, extermination and largescale internment of Uyghurs in China started around 2014. So it makes more sense to start counting from 2014 right. Well we run into a crucial problem very fast since we can't thrust any figures coming out of CCP China, they "miscalculated" their entire population by around 100 million. It's safe to say that using numbers and statistics don't work. But we do have thousands of witnesses and other proof to determine that attacks such as: Internment, forced abortion, forced sterilization, forced birth control, forced labor, torture, brainwashing, alleged rape (including gang rape) are happening across the board.
And even if we had correct and trustworthy numbers. Since you are starting from 1949. Worldwide all populations around the world boomed since 1949. Using your metrics 0 genocides have taken place since then...
So first of all you starting from 1949, which is as we have just established an entirely invalid argument. It would be to say that because since the 1800's there were still more jews in Germany after 1945, so there was no holocaust. No sir, such disgusting statements have no place in public discord. Inform yourself on the topic of genocide and secondly on the Uyghur genocide.
Also it is still to have a genocide on a population and have it survive. We still have jews, Armenians, Congolese people, even though they were genocide upon. A genocide doesn't mean the total destruction and disappearance of a people or culture. Killing about 1 million people just based on either, race, religion or culture is always a genocide. No matter how large the entire pop group is...
Following the Ürümqi riots, Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan denounced the "savagery" being inflicted on the Uyghur community and called for an end of the Chinese government's attempts to forcibly assimilate the community. Later at the Group of Eight summit in Italy, Erdogan called upon Chinese authorities to intervene to protect the community and stated that "The incidents in China are, simply put, a genocide. There's no point in interpreting this otherwise.
Turkey is not part of the West and not part of the EU. So even outside the west, they call it a genocide.
Just google and/or wikipedia uyghur genocide. It's a proven fact. So I'm not going into a discussion with someone that uses such intelligently dishonest and frankly disgusting argumentations.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_genocide
It was nice destroying you, goodbye
Well, I think George Yeo provided a good summary of the orthodox view of the Asian elites. Remember that Singapore thrives because it's a better alternative to today's Hong Kong under China's direct control, but politically it always plays the middleman between China and the West, so it's not surprising he holds such views.
As someone who grew up in mainland China and have lived in the West for a long time, I'd concur that China legitimately views Taiwan as its traditional territory. The issue is that nations' boundary evolve over time, so if everyone insists on restoring its historical territories then there will be no end to wars. Indeed, such views tend to be hypocritical: just think Russia, depending on when it wishes to determine its historical boundary - 1000 AD, 1500 AD, 1917, or 1991 - one can argue it should either annex all of Eastern Europe, or shrink to a small town in Moscow. China is no exception. Taiwanese people are dominantly of Chinese origin, but that doesn't mean that they have to be part of today's China. Only they can decide their destiny. If China hasn't royally messed up the integration of Hong Kong, it might have had a chance of convincing the Taiwanese that China is a better option. Ironically, ask Singapore, which also has majority of residents of Chinese origin, would it want to join China today?
One last point: Xi Jinping might have the best intention of stamping out corruption, but his recipe is a top down, episodic campaign of crackdowns, which has failed over and over again in the last 70 years. The root of the corruption is that there is no alternative to those in power, so if one wishes to advance in the society corruption is the grease to ease the way. Yes, as a big and diverse country China needs a strong central government; No, China does not need one party, however noble it's original intent was, to rule the country as an autocracy.
Fully agree
"legitimately views Taiwan as its traditional territory" Well argued, and I agree, but with one tiny quibble. Just as P00ti views Ukraine as his own, the XiXiP views Taiwan as its traditional territory, but NOT legitimately. The XiXiP has NEVER ruled Taiwan.
There's a thing called sovereignty. You don't understand what it really means. If you are Chinese, you should know why China is what it is now.
No government in China ,regardless of the form of its government is willing to let a a big, strategic island such as Taiwan as an independent nation. If Japan and China could not give up a disputed tiny, inhabited island, China will never give up Taiwan Island. The whole world, since 1949, always know Taiwan island is a part of a big China. KMT
always consider itself the legitimate government of China, and reserve the right to take back mainland. And if that
happened,may be they will move back to Beijing as new capital but Taiwan Island still belong to a democratic China.
The CCP want to attack KMT in Taiwan but could not due to US 7 fleet protection and a very weak navy. The North and South Korea are also belong to Korea. The North could not do it because of American forces in South Korea.
The Korea civil war has not ended neither mainland China and Taiwan.
Its wrong to ask Singapore to join one China as Singapore is not a China province unlike Taiwan and Hong Kong. China did not mess up in hk. Its the west that interfered to cause turmoil and China had resolve this with the internal security legislation.
Even Taiwan claims they are the legitimate ruler of China.
Excellence!
As Kipling observed, "The West is the West and the East is the East, and never the twain shall meet."
Yes but Kipling was also talking about an entirely different century. We now live in 2023, where Taiwan, South Korea and Japan, for example, have far more in common politically and the values they hold with the West compared to say, the CCP's prison state of mainland China.
No- Chinese opium smugglers meet in the middle to smuggle opium in to the internal areas Westerners could not venture (outside of Concession on pain of death)
When Yeo, Put it as Taiwan joining China as German Unification is the total opposite, the first thing is East German people were the ones who asked for unification, not West Germany. And Germany Supported when Hong Kong Unified with China, and look how things turn out for the people of Hong Kong. Oh, about China could only be governed through autocracy is an absolute nascence. Democracy is a human right.
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So how things turn out for the people of Hongkong now?Do you know how things turn out before?Why pretend that you know the history of Hong Kong and the feelings of its people?
@@starsmeng509 obviously you don't
@@ruiferreira6578 obviously you don't..
Very constructive conversation.
What explicitly do you believe was actually 'constructed' during or as a consequence of the conversation besides some tired old, hackneyed support for autocracy, sir? Please explain yourself. 14:12
I'm a Taiwanese. Taiwan, its formal name Republic of China, is a province of China. Republic of China governs the Province of Taiwan, and part of Province of Fujian (Kinmen), which is only 3 km away from Mainland China. Taiwan has been a province of China and a part of China for centuries since the Qing Dynasty, for longer than the history of the U.S.
I agree with seeing China as a whole and thoroughly from history, where western countries forget that China already has civilization that has brought western countries forward; gunpowder, rockets, compasses, toothbrushes, mechanical clocks, etc.
"Toothbrushes" 🤣
@@SSDDssed and you still use it ;(
@@ysw8291 let’s not pretend similar tools didnt exist before the tooth brush, like frayed twigs/chew sticks. The toothbrush is nice but it’s not that important for progress.
And why does it matter which civilization invented what? Some individual humans are behind inventions. Nationality, race or religion is not that relevant here.
@@SSDDssed It's the butterfly effect.
Toothbrushes might seem like just another invention, but having it play a part in maintaining and resolving dental hygiene leading to people being healthy > making differences in the country in their own way that we cannot see. Thus I don't think toothbrushes "not important for progress" is the more accurate statement here.
It's like saying torchlights are not as important for progress when you can just use candles imo
there were already compasses in the roman empire. And of course in the roman empire they invented concrete, people used short hair an toke a bath at least once a week for health reasons. after every thing was forgotten. I just don't understand why they did't invented a sewer system. If they had, we all would be talking Italian. Anyway It was a Jesuit that teached the seasons to the Chinese court so they could order the peasants to plant the crops accordingly an not random, so people would die with famine.
and we gave china the writing as they gave us the mechanical clock. Two inventions in different parts of the world at different times that had nothing to do with each other...
He says China doesn't want to play power broker in the Russia-Ukraine because they don't understand the conflict. Why did they play power broker between Saudi and Iran?
You are just looking for something to contradict when he just probably misworded what he wanted to say or just said that to make a long story short. Of course China understands what is happening in the Ukraine-Russia conflict. It wants to play mediator and it did try but Ukraine and Russia were not ready to go to the negotiation table. China does not impose itself where it does not belong. It dosn't interfere where it doesn't belong.
It was succesful in the Iran-Saudi mediation because it was probably invited by the two parties to mediate it. Or it sent out a feeler to the two countries and they were receptive to a mediation. They almost always don't tell the complete story or what happens before, during and after a mediation, just the result.
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@@rap3208 if belonging is not mutual between both parties perhaps you are miswording yourself as well
@@allisterlobo6754 What are you talking about?
There is a big problem with your understanding ability. Is Iran and Saudi Arabia currently in a state of war? China is only helping them resume diplomatic relations, and both sides have this willingness.
His Catholic Church analogy is spot on. But, I think neither the CPC nor the Church like this comparison. Great interview.
Food for thought
"China über alles. Über alles in der Welt" ... Well, thanks but No. We know where the end looks like. Greetz from Germany
"Nationalism is a disease" - famous German physicist.
Unlike Germany.. Chinese don't claim uber alles in der world...no such thing.. it's the States!
@@level1selamat155 of course they claim kinda world dominance based their long history of chinese civilization. Especially in the asia-pacific region, especially in front of their asian neighbors… the US- presences in this region is because of the safety of the tradeways per sea
Yellow peril discourse came from Germany. As did hitler and final solution. People don;t think "uber alles" like you. I think that's your history, not other people's history
The usual brainless Nazi tropes from a racist.
He had obvious vested interests as a former Singapore foreign affairs minister. Had no doubt what he said had good basis but there’s also obvious omission of other equally or even more important facts of what’s really ongoing now.
You need to understand history to understand the culture/the present and prepare for the future
OMG such insightful and original view 🎉
Just one phrase for this interview..... "Vested interests" Mr Yeo
Mr. Yeo‘s interpretation of China is INTERESTING!
Well he is an expert on China. What are you an expert in?
What we get wrong about China is that : what are wrong on China actually are correct and true; and what are true on China actually are wrong.
huh?
The sound is bad and muffled. I wish there were English subtitles to make things clear.
"You must understand that China is all about history." -so they ought to have noticed that the world became more peaceful and prosperous after abandoning expansionist imperialism. How many decades or centuries are the rest of us supposed to give China a pass or kowtow because they fantasize living in some ancient empire?
We could paraphrase him as saying 'You must understand that China is all about CHINESE history!' The script characters for China, after all, denote the centre of the world. 🙂Twenty five years out of poverty, and the CCP's PRC decides it should be in charge of everyone else. What a humble and profound culture.
But you turn a blind eye to the fact that all wars were/are started by US!
You also idolize a nation that is built from plunder, stealing, slavery (USA), so why comment your biased view here?
History is not important to you because what you have done to natives Americans and Pacific natives is best forgotten.
@@LeeSuKwang-ol5oy 😂😆😆😂 That old chestnut? and who is this "...you...?"
Interesting interview....but....one would be wise to take Mr.Yeo's analysis with a big dose of skepticism.
To remind you, Singapore is a dictatorship. People get arrested for making fun of government.
Really ? Just because his views are more supportive of China, he's not credible. Since when ?
what is yeo background ? what is his family ties in the high places? need to look deeper into the man's views.
@Tracchofyre lol! You don't find the entire western media spewing China hate enough, and most of them are lies or twisted to the negative? You don't want to hear the other side?
Man was a former foreign minister of Singapore, are you saying his views are not worth anything 😂
Illuminating
1. What we get wrong about China ?
2. The root cause is the wrong mindset and incorrect perception. In other words , it can be stated that many countries do not have open mind and BIG HEARTS to accept China's rise. They are filled with jealousy and anger which are not good for their countries' advancement.
3. What is most important is that these countries should scrutinize China's " success formula " and adopt those portion which can suit their countries' domestic and unique conditions.
4. It is good to understand that ALL ROADS LEAD TO ROME. The mindset of " Democracy and Liberal Plutocracy -- the best political system " can no longer be practical for all countries.
What we get wrong about China is how peacefully they torture Uighur muslims and other minorities and demolish their places of worship. And how shamelessly and hypocritically the OIC (Organization of Islamic Countries) and Pakistan ignores this while being concerned about the democracies of Israel, India and the West :D
Because the West loves China too much. Westerners love China so much, all Westerners have become Jesus, willing to die to bring democracy, justice, happiness, human rights, etc. to Chinese people. So, it has nothing to do with whether we are right or wrong about China.
keyword : Empathy ... they can't understand because they dont care.
They have been used to such pride and arrogance for decades. Only when the western hegemony ends, people from the collective west can accept others’ merits with empathy.
I'm not jealous about China's 'rise'. Didn't even hear/know anything about China until 2019 because it cuts itself off from the outside unfortunately. It was the CCPs atrocities against its own citizens that made me aware of China. The CCP is the thing everyone is critizising, not chinese culture or increased wealth over the last decades. Your blind swallowing of state propaganda is unfortunate and will not benefit you in life.
A question to you both: Is there only Chinese unity in ethnicity, state, and culture? Are there beneath this other identities based on history, ethnicity, religion and e.g. former statehood other than Han Chinese?
Good point! How strong is the People's Republic of China's (PRC's) claim on Taiwan, an island that Imperial China ceded to Japan, long before the PRC was even born?
Doesn't the Republic of China, the legitimate and recognized government of China that escaped to Taiwan and NEVER surrendered to the Communist traitors, have a claim on their home, the Chinese mainland?
Whose historical claim is stronger? Whose claim is more absurd? Why isn't Taiwan simply regarded as an independent nation, last freed from the Empire of Japan?
Sterilization and re-education to achieve "harmony" come to mind
Tibet and Xinjiang might disagree with some of his points
Chinese unity of this sort occurred only with CCP. The cultural revolution played a big part. The old timers will tell you, there were always a friend who died during those times. CCP hadn't changed much. Cultural genocide is still a thing, and it is getting worse as time progresses. Massive exodus of intellectuals from China at its peak. Taiwan is the only place where a decent side of Chinese cultural is retained.
Even within their Han society, it's incredibly divided amongst social economic status. Chinese people living in Tier 1 cities like Shanghai consider rural Han Chinese people as peasant scum.