Neo Instruments Ventilator II (Ventilator 2) - First Look and Demo
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- The Neo Instruments Ventilator II is the sequel to the original and widely popular Ventilator rotary speaker emulator. Jim Alfredson presents an overview of the new features as well as a demo of the great sound of this unit.
Full review here with more detailed information here: jimalfredson.co...
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I'm a guitar player but I could watch you playing all day! So much groove! And this pedal is on my list!
w o w ! nice playing indeed! a w e s o m e !
This was REALLY a good video!!!
I originally stopped by briefly to see what the buzz was about this pedal and ended up watching the entire thing!
Tremendous playing BTW!!!
I'm a Yamaha Motif XF player/owner and the fine people on the motifator website have had a lot to say regarding this pedal recently and the lack of a good B3 sound within the mMotif itself.
A lot of people consider this to be the answer to their prayers and I now see why...!
This is definitely going to be on my short list for the studio!
Once again, thanks for the fine demo and playing!
Hope to see/hear more!
Regards
Just ordered mine! Thanks for the fine demo! Sounds great. I wanted it just for Lee Michael's stuff, a very nice and much lighter rotary .
A really great musician with great equipment! That will do!
Nice, finally adding an XK1c to my live rig with this V2. With a Montage for keys/synth, this should be a nice upgrade over the Montage/Kronos organs.
Man, your playing...is soooo good ! Thanks for the great demo.
Wow. I am a guitarist, and this is just what I have been looking for. FINALLY, somebody got it right. This is even better than Hammonds, for sure. Thanks for the demo, and great playing. And you ought to be a DJ on the side, with that voice. BTW: Your keyboard set up really sounds great, in itself.
Fantastic demo. You answered every question popping up in my mind with such clarity. Great work! And thank you.
Great video and playing. Just ordered the Ventilator II for guitar but it's cool to see how it's used with organ. Cool how you demonstrated the stop mode. Cheers!
So awesome to see a great organ player haha you are a rare breed
Yours are the best videos on RUclips in Hammond (+clones) and Leslie (+clones) topics.
I have been loving mine ever since I got it. I have had some power supply problems but it still the best on the market in my opinion. Your videos definitely helped sway me in this direction, thanks Jim!
Hey Nick, what power supply problems have your experienced?
The problem I have ran into has been noise. It seems that under certain circumstances I get a great deal of noise. It tends to be a very high pitched digital sounding noise and it is fairly unpredictable when it happens or what causes it. Sometimes, If I just unplug and plug it back in, its fine. There are some gigs where it is perfectly quiet and others where it really acts up. I have considered getting a power conditioner for my rig.
Interesting. I've only had that happen once and the same thing resolved it (rebooting via unplugging and plugging it back in). I wonder if the PSU you have is faulty? Or under powered? Or not stable enough for certain situations?
I always travel with a line conditioner for my digital gear, including my SK2. Everything these days uses switch-mode power supplies which can be very susceptible to AC line problems. I use a TrippLite LC1200. The one time I forgot it, I played an outdoor patio gig with my SK2 and the power was so bad (low AC voltage on the patio) that it fried my PSU. Never again!
Yes, I figured I need to get a conditioner, I have just been putting it off. I actually have the original PSU as well as an aftermarket that was suggested in a forum as a more stable option for the Vent. Both give me the same result.
I will look into the TrippLite LC1200. Does it help with dirty/noisy power situations? Many of the venues I play at have pretty nasty power...
Yes, the TrippLite helps a lot. I never leave home without it.
You may want to make sure the PSU connector is mating properly with the jack on the Ventilator. Maybe it's loose and thus not getting a solid connection?
Dude, I could just sit and watch you jam out all day. Awesome!
man you have some wicked chops; smooth and polished! I just picked up an A-100 and I think this might be a viable alternative to a conventional Leslie (it's certainly more portable) Trying to find a decent Leslie for less than an arm and a leg is getting harder all the time...
Thanks ,after 45years of using a Leslie on stage it's hard to change to a simulator but it's sure easer to cart around ,I'll give it a try
Cheer
Yes, after using a 147 for nearly 20 years, I too was bit skeptical. But, I purchased the "original" Vent 3 years ago and immediately SOLD the Leslie. I was able to take the cash from the sell and purchase the Vent + 2 monitors.
The only way I have found to maintain the "feel" of the sound-motion and doppler effect being thrown around the proximity of my keyboard setup as well as around the room is to religiously run the Vent in Stereo.
For my keyboard monitors, I'm running in stereo using (2) QSC K10's positioned L/R on either side of me. Although the low-end is not exceptionally good on the QSC' by themselves, I can easily hear/feel the hugeness of the organ coming from the FOH subs.
Great playing, I mean, like amazing
Great demo! Clear and informative. Good quality and looked nice in my ultra HD TV.
Thanks for the demo and great playing! Hey from Nashville.
Would perfect (in my opinion) if there was a a deceleration control, and for each control either tiered knobs or separate individual knobs so you don’t need to go in/out of the secondary mode..
Facts
a love the keyboard, great playing,cool toy. a lot of times its best for a real musician to try out new gear so other real players can get a slight idea of the device. this will do quite well. thanx
hello Jim, very cool nice video, it would be nice to see the ventilator II in action with a real vintage hammond...like your C 2 thanks
great video demo, and cool ending
amazing playing!
Hello Jim,
Thank you very much for these explanations. Your work is really extraordinary.
I would like to ask a question: Have you tested the "Leslie Model G or Model K" pedals?
They're kind of rare to find. What do you think of the sound result and the options that these materials present?
If you can help me ...
Thanks in advance.
Ewerton
Why do you need the Neo Vent with these modern organs? Isn’t the built in rotary affect just as good and easier to use?
Jim you would be great at giving some organ tuition, mayby with a bit of jazz theory thrown in. the ideal lesley software would be something that actually shows the models in question with the mic placements, a lot of us newbies just dont know whay were really looking for for an authentic 50's leslie or 60's leslie. i guess they probably do, but in a VST. Part of me wishes I held out of buying the SK2, and bought the XKC1, but then the immidiacy I get with the SK2 is great. That said, the build quality of the SK2 is rather poor in my oppinion, sent it back to my dealer twice for repairs of velocity broken keys and the screws fell out. It feels very clangy to play as if the 2nd manual really shouldn't be there - as if it was an after thought to just glue a 2nd midi keyboard on the SK1 shell. Never did see any of them limited edition SK2's about??
Thank you for the excellent explaining!
I have a Hammond XB1 and I'am very unhappy with the Leslie
effect onboard.
I tested also the Neo Vent I but this was also not the solution for me ...
Now I think the Neo Vent II is a really good ability ... exspecially the
fine tuning of the Leslie speed you explained here very well make me curious.
Have a good time!
Lobo
Great video Jim! How does the Ventilator II compare to the factory rotary effects built into the XK-1c? Thanks!
Very nice démo!!! Thank's!!!
Very good playing mate! 😃
Do you think this would significantly improve the Nord Electro 6 Organ engine? A lot of people complain that the Nord sounds weak as regards to it's Hammond section.
I’m just wondering...in all the Leslie sim demos, the pedal is always on the keyboard. Is that just for demo purposes? It seems to me you’d want the pedal on the floor and free up the hands?
i would think so, but i have seen a lot of keyboard players who use pedals on top of their keyboard.
It depends if one wants to make many knob adjustments...I expect once the fav settings are found, this pedal would go on the floor.
Remember, many Hammonds had hand switching (half moon switch), because people played foot pedals too!
But they were placed closer to our left hand.
cheers
Jim I love the videos! Jim I have a Roland Atelier that I really like and gets some really good organ sounds and I am wanting to add some distortion without it sounding lousy. I have tried some distortion pedals and I am leaning toward purchasing the ventilator. Any thoughts on what may be the best?
The overdrive in the Ventilator is so good. It sounds like tube overdrive from a Leslie. They do make a pedal that just has the overdrive in it. I'm not familiar with the Atelier so I can't comment on how good it's rotary simulation is, but it's really hard to beat the Ventilator in that department.
Thanks a million! Love the playing!
I dont care much about the pedal since it's waaay expensive for my budget, but you sir, are a hell of a player!!! Where can i get your music?
Thank you for the kind words. You can find my discography at:
jimalfredson.com/?page_id=40
Two new releases that are not yet up on that page are the upcoming Janiva Magness CD "Original" and the upcoming Greg Nagy release "I Won't Give Up".
Jim Alfredson hey mister Alfredsson how can you hook up this ventilator to a vintage Hammond a100 or any other console Hammond
Alejandro Romero uu
don,t seem to have any phasing of the sound on slow Leslie, the animated horn on a Leslie turning in the four corners of a wooden cabinet causes a phase shift in the sound , this in my mined is a massive and overlooked effect on most Leslie sim's, if any of you reading this can get your hands on a oberhiem 32 squared clone configured for stereo ,and listen to how its done you will see were i'm coming form
I own an XK-1, but desire a more traditional B3 keyboard feel. Is the XK-1c keyboard any improvement over the older XK-1?
Well, the XK1c doesn't feel like a B3, I can tell you that much. It's a nice feeling keybed. I don't think anything really feels like a B3 out there except the New B3 or the B3p.
Thank you bro
Jim great video, awesome effect indefinitely kick nutt feeling and playing! .. did you try the Leslie pedal and if so what is your feedback on the differences and similarities to a B3 etc, etc
Well I got the original Vent and it sounds great with my (old) customized (Mullard tubes and tweaking) XK-3. I don't use it in the studio. I have an inexpensive 1982 Elkatone rotary speaker (solid state - I use the overdrive of the original Vernt - stop and guitar mode by simply inserting a headphone jack adaptor - and I have that creamy overdrive) which very closely emulates the far more complex tone of a real Leslie speaker. I am talking about that slightly dirty but prescious, throaty sound, that shimmering, pumping and that "grinding". I love your playing and your knowledge but the gear (XK-1 + Vent II) still sounds clearly like a hammond clone. It's too simplified, too clean, too synthetic. It lacks the complexity of the analog circuits, the air, the "tumbling" tonewheels, the truly breathy leakage (it's there, especially when you push-in the upper drawbars so it isn't drowned out, but somehow it sounds like what it is: an emulation). As I said: great playing, great demo, nice sim - soesn't sound like a vintage console Hammond it tries to emulate - not at all. I am age 53 and I grew up with Hammonds all around - there is a distinctive quality which very likely still is too complex to emulate - or it evades the guys trying...... your playing rem ains impeccable though! Thanks for uploading.
Jim, when you play that lovely melody from 10:06 for us RUclips watchers, are we hearing the output of your amp & speakers via the video camera, or is it a direct output into a recording device (eg, computer) and you've mixed it into the final video?
Jonathan L That is direct out of the Ventilator into Cubase and the mixed into the video, yes.
Now there is the big question: Neo Ventilator II or Gsi Burn ? If both have quite the same leslie quality and I suppose this after hearing some sound examples, you have much more options with the Gsi Burn and it is even a little bit cheaper. Other opinions?
Be nice to hear some Leslie pedals in a live band situation....
This a great sounding pedal. But it has one drawback.: it's a pedal. Traditional organists will find it very inconvenient to operate.
If Neo were to add a remote switch that could be wired to a two position or a three position switch mounted in the traditional half-moon style, then they would have something.
Pretty sure you can use a half Moon with it
Exist!
Hi Jim Where can i buy ventilator ii? Thanks
Great playing man
Is the overdrive function from the keyboard or the vent? Great playing btw :)
Vent
Hey Jim, if you had a Leslie 3300 and a Hammond C3 would you use a 1/4 jack output and use the Leslie 3300 instead of the NEO or would you use the NEO VENT 2.????? Are they both the same sound ? I am betting there is some difference........I know the Neo Vent is for easy load, but just wandering your thoughts on the sound of EACH, which do you think is better?
Nothing beats a real Leslie. I use the 3300 live a lot, especially for gigs where I'm kicking bass because those tend to be small combos, usually trios, and the Leslie really fills up the acoustic space. For recording, the Vent is great and for larger gigs where you're going to be playing through a PA anyway.
is the remote input used for cu-1 switch?
Hi Jim!
I have a problem with the connection of the neo ventilator II to hammond sk2. Could you help me with cable?
I just got this pedal and I'm trying to figure out how I can use it in stereo. I bought this for use with guitar, if that makes a difference. Any advice would be appreciated!
I play layered sounds like strings and voice along with Organ and accompaniment (drums bass) and I tried a Vent but it affected all the sounds not just the organ and sounded terrible. You mentioned there is a way to bypass the other sounds. I tried bypass but it just turned it completely off.
What keyboard are you using?
@@JimAlfredson I use two. For band I use a Roland Fantom 07. The other is a midi accordion with Roland BK-7M backing module. On that the Style accompaniment plays 8 sounds plus 2 sounds on left hand and 2 more sounds on right hand. It has organs but rotary sim isn’t very good so I tried Neo Vent. But too many sounds are coming out and rotary affects on them sounds bad. On Fantom the built in rotary seems pretty good. When I connected Vent to it I really need to stop the sim on the Fantom so it doesn’t interfere with the Vent. Plus I sometimes use layers so same problem as midi accompaniment. I’ve concluded Vent or Leslie speaker is for a dedicated organ keyboard. Good learning.
@@sglynn The Roland Fantom 07 appears to have two sets of stereo outputs; the MAIN left and right output and a SUB left and right output. I am not familiar with the Fantom but my guess is you can assign a sound to one stereo output or another. So you would need to remove the internal Leslie sim from your organ patch in the Fantom, then set it to output through the SUB outputs, then connect the Ventilator to that output so that only the organ sounds go through it. Then your MAIN outputs would be for all the other, non-organ sounds.
@@JimAlfredson Thank you for your ideas and reply. I really appreciate your extra efforts. Yes that’s viable idea but I’ve got hundreds of saved scenes with several sounds per scene that would need editing and that’s too much editing and not worth it. Plus that ruins the stereo and the on board rotary sim is good enough. Plus the band environment is noisy and the B3 sound gets drowned out a bunch by electric guitars. If I was a pure organ player without all the other noise I’d use a Vent.
groovy baby !!!
Since this video some leslie plugins like the PSP L'otary and MeldaProductions MVintageRotary were released. Have you tried any of these?
+Daniel Miclos No, I have not. I tend to use hardware Leslie sims (or real Leslies) rather than software just because it's more convenient.
Why is my Neo Ventilator II clicky when I press BYPASS or HI/LO buttum?
By the way, my knob is different than this one in the video.
Bought from Amazon uk.
My bypass too. I think it needs repair. It should be silent.
Sounds great , how does it compare to a xk3c built in Leslie .I'm carrying around a top to a 2100 system but looking to down size
In my opinion, the Ventilator has more realism in the upper end, a better sense of 3D. And the cabinet simulation is better. But the Xk3c sim is quite good. It's up to you if it's worth the extra bread.
Getting it Friday. I feel like. Kid waiting for toys on Christmas Day man . Jim I have one request/question?? Wht about the digital Hammond pedal ?? Is it better , same, or worst than?? I really want this comparison made by you at some point soon..
I still have not had the chance to try the Hammond pedal. I'd love to do so and Hammond keeps telling me they are going to send me one, but so far they have not.
You'll dig the Vent II. Congrats!
Thanks. :) I'll be waiting for that video when u do get it..
hey Jim what is ypur 54 organ preset for you xkc1?
“No one wants to hear a 12 minute gear review”.... proceeds to upload a 11:38 video xD
hi is it realy close to the leslie?,
Is this set up a good compromise for those who can't afford a XK3? Is the XK1+vent as good as a XK3?
Probably better in terms of tone. :)
The best Leslie next to a Leslie.... bar none
It weighs alot less too.
Ventilator ll what brand product?
Can you connect the half moon stick...lol... to this thing?
Do you have an opinion on this series as compared to the Lester K/LesterG?
The Lester K does not have an acceleration knob, so you can’t adjust the speed of acceleration...which is truly annoying. Also, I think the NORD built in sim sounds much better than the Lester K.
Good review! Can i play with my strat?
Of course! It has many features specifically for guitarists.
IF THEY CUT THE PRICE IN HALF ILL BUY ONE
Look into the Lester K pedal, I hear it's really good as well and I've seen them for under 200 online
Why my neo venti 2 has bigger knobs?
where i can buy one?
Very simple...do not bring large Leslie rotary speaker
Good playing :)
I have a Hammond XK-3 with your settings that you email-me"1958 B3" ;)
I also have the original Ventilator. I use the settings in the middle ( except drive) to "sound like" a Leslie 122. Do you think that the Ventilator 2 sound better than the original Ventilator?
Can i use on a dx7 fd?
You can use it on any keyboard.
I wish someone would actually do a review of this product on a vintage hammond. The sound is more authentic and will give a more accurate telling of this products ability to reproduce the Leslie effect. The tone of the new hammonds are terrible.
That's a good idea and it's something I'll probably do.
I have to disagree that the tone of the new Hammonds is (not "are") terrible. They sound very good with a little tweaking and especially through a real Leslie. The onboard Leslie sim in the new XK1c is quite good as well.
there is one already i will hunt it and post the link
ruclips.net/video/HJ8VtgxL_IA/видео.html
Jim Alfredson sorry but i have to agree ;. Apostolic pentecostal people are stuck on a real b3 thru a leslie. the new organs sound to electronic yes you can tweak but you will never get the sound of the real old school hammond b3 with a leslie on it. sorry. The Vent II does a perfect job to me on a Real Hammond Organ ,
Terrible as compared to a B3 or A100 with Leslies? I'm writing this in year 2018 so much has improved beginning with the Xk3-c, SK-1, XK5 [aka the new B3]. if one plays these 'flat' thru a stationary keyboard speaker, then I hear your point. The Motion of a moving cabinet 'doppler effect' is at minimal 50% of the sound enhancement. One needs the Leslies or a simulator to move the sound waves around the room.
I listening to these various 'vent' demos. i... do not.. hear a huge tectonic, dramatic difference betw the Vent and my SK onboard leslie sim. There is some. Sure. Others here have claimed the opposite when actually using a vent with their SK, so they spent the $500. So there must be [SOME] difference. Then I am thinking...in a performance it is the musician's inner self that brings any Instrument to life. It is 99% artist physical performing that gets heard. No one onstage highlights the Doppler Effect as the focus of their performance... Evidendenced by the multitude of SK Organists that just simply 'perform with what the Instrument came with and dedicated years to develop their skill set: the HUMAN doppler effect. Best Regards Hammond Lovers
Since i have not actually auditioned live a 'Vent' but rather use JBL Gen 2 15'' powered cabinets with my SK-1 73 and its onboard Sim...I could be missing something important. The VID is not suggesting [to me] that I am. The truth perhaps is found in a room with my own rig and a real 'Vent". Am I spending $500 to put on my Sk-1 73 and my XK5? I just not feeling it. Intrigued? Yes. Yet I certainly know I have a lot more work to do on my own chops before I delude myself into thinking $500 and pressing more buttons is a magical answer.
Respectfully Yours.
Covid19 how does this help my breathing? Killer sound