The ideal scenario for the Big XII would be a Texas vs. Notre Dame championship game, with Notre Dame coming out on top. This outcome would boost ASU’s credibility, as they were so close to defeating Texas, while also preventing the Power 2 conferences from claiming another national title.
Who's the biggest star & most memorable player of this college football playoffs & what conference did he play for? His name is Skattebo!! He played for ASU in the Big 12 conference
What have we learned this year? That pre-season expectations and talent rankings are nonsense and we put way too much emphasis on them. Hopefully the lesson sticks but I have doubts.
…meanwhile eSECon just released their “way too early top25” poll & “ranked” 5 sec teams in the top10 (UF, Auburn, Ole Miss, UGA, Alabama)…so the circus continues
Texas & Ohio State both coming off 2 playoff wins the difference is (Believe it or not) ASU is a physical team that beat Texas up, whereas Ohio State faced a finesse Oregon team.
Let's just be honest. SEC fans & media deserve to be despised cus they want to eliminate all other non SEC/BiG 10 teams from ever being part of the playoffs thereby hurting the sport by taking interest & hope away from fans of about 100 non SEC teams. They're also condescending, obnoxious & arrogant
Then you should be happy when the SEC/BIG break away and go do their own thing and get out of your way.....but I bet you are not..... I bet whoever your school is would stab the rest of the B12 in the back for an SEC/BIG invite and be part of the breakaway. So in the end, you despising of P2 fans is really just jealousy and anxiety about your own schools insecurities.
Thank you. Finally someone says it. These fan bases are perfectly fine ruining the sport for most college fanbase so they can have an easier route to a NCG appearance and more money. They are despicable.
@@roywall8169 Dude! BAMA will be in and go further in the upcoming cfp before anyone in the B12.The teams there don't have any staying power.History tells us that.I bet you ASU will struggle to make a bowl next year.And that's the BIG DIFFERENCES in these 2 conferences.
The SEC apologists aren’t necessarily wrong on any given point; to me the biggest problem is the shifting logic from game to game that adds up to wins proving their superiority and losses being explained away.
In the end, the BIG12 vividly demonstrated three key realities: (1) The BIG12 remains a deeper and more competitive conference top-to-bottom than the sec, (2) cow high has always been and continues to be an overhyped mediocrity propped up by theatrics and marketing rather than performance, and (3) sec fans crumble into defensive posturing when exposed and confronted with uncomfortable truths. Sec theoretical abstractions (i.e., ‘we can beat anyone because our uniforms are prettier’) only underscore Krieg Stinkey's reliance on hype over substance. The sheer volume of vague posturing reeks of someone trying to sound insightful but only managing to produce verbal flatulence. So, jasonjames, scurry back to your Romper Room sandbox-let the grown-ups of the BIG12 handle the real conversation about the status of and improving college football. Great work, Johann.
@HoustonCougarsGermany I'm all about that but let's be honest the B12 is not the SEC. ASU played a good final 10 minutes to make the game interesting. Down double digits the whole game and 24-8 with 10 minutes left.The talent between the 2 leagues are like night and day.If so deep why LSU spanked Baylor with mostly their 2nd and 3rd string .And Arkansas did the same to Texas TECH with half the team opt out and had 3rd stringers playing.Commo man I know you love your conference but let's be real here.If the SEC called for your school to join how fast do you think it would take for them to say YES.
@@jasonjames1697 Hi, thank you for your collegial response. True, the SEC is a great conference-rich in history, storied programs, and a revenue-generating powerhouse. But where SEC fandom falters is in declaring superiority based solely on conference affiliation rather than on-field performance. It’s charming, really-this belief that simply wearing an SEC jersey grants instant dominance, as if wins and losses are secondary to branding. But let’s look at reality, shall we? Take Houston, for example-a program often overlooked by the self-appointed gatekeepers of college football glory. In 2016, UH didn’t just compete with a #3-ranked Oklahoma team-they demolished them (since we’re using SEC-fan terminology here). And this season, Houston nearly took down that same Oklahoma-a team that, I might add, annihilated Alabama. Last season, the Cougars came within a referee’s dubious call of beating Texas (yes, the ‘mighty’ Cow High). These aren’t hypotheticals-they’re actual games with real outcomes. And considering the massive disparities in recruiting class rankings and revenue, these performances speak volumes. Meanwhile, SEC fans continue playing the ‘what if’ game, assuming automatic wins over non-SEC teams. Fascinating, but not exactly grounded in fact. Wins must be earned. But let’s go further. If a program like UH, with limited conference resources, can achieve this kind of success, imagine what they’d accomplish with SEC-level funding and exposure. Their recruiting footprint in Houston-one of the richest talent pools in the nation-would become a fortress. Perhaps that’s why Texas worked so hard to keep UH out of the BIG12 for so long. Fear of competition can be a powerful motivator, no? And yet, here we are, still pretending that a closed-loop SEC championship masquerading as a national title is what’s best for college football. It’s not. The true essence of the sport lies in its regional diversity and underdog triumphs-games won on the field, not decided in preseason polls, TV contracts, or committee rooms. That’s why a legitimate College Football National Championship should feature regional conference champions, not just the richest programs clustered in a super league. If the SEC and Big10 want to secede and create their own December spectacle, more power to them. I’m sure their fans will love it-but many of us will happily find something else to watch. At the end of the day, teams like Houston and other so-called ‘outsiders’ have earned the right to compete at the highest level-and they’ve proven they can. Despite the SEC echo chamber, college football’s greatest moments have often come from teams that refuse to be defined by conference logos. Perhaps it’s time to reward actual performance rather than perpetuating an outdated myth of inherent dominance. And, for the record, the ‘C-team’ and ‘third-string’ excuses have become tiresome. If a team can’t muster the heart to show up and play, perhaps they should be banned from competition for a season-it’s college football, not a paycheck scrimmage. I hope you’ll take this response as constructive feedback and not a personal affront. Take care.
SEC dominating the title picture for like 13 years is not a myth. The fact Indiana just blew through your conference unchecked and Clemson gets an autobid with three losses speaks more to those conferences.
I don't understand the talent argument of the SEC crowd. Why is NFL draft picks a measure? Duke and Kentucky get a lot of NBA players drafted and it doesn't translate to winning natties. Is the SEC going to become a sports agency instead of a sports conference?
Isn't talent profile a reasonable way to compare teams with similar records in an environment where there aren't very many head to head data points available? Or to ask you another way, don't you think ESPN SP+ incorporates talent into the ranking they use, which is influential especially by ESPN's own talking heads?
Yea I think it does matter and is a great starting point. However general logic shows us that there’s a lot of great college players that don’t translate to the NFL and a lot of hall of famers that weren’t necessarily so dominant in college
@@jdabomb8064 Based on the players on NFL rosters to start the 24 seasons, out of the top 10 schools they played for, 5 were from the SEC and 5 were from the B1G. Yes, the three finalists for the NFL MVP didn't play for the SEC. But I'm saying that those NFL players aren't evenly distributed to every team in a conference so how is the SEC better as a conference if 5 schools represent a majority of the talent drafted? They're making an argument that the B1G is their equal.
@@heartbreak25 yea that’s a good point. I guess it just depends on what you are defining for your conference measure. With that logic you could certainly argue that as far as depth the BIG12 is on par or better with the SEC
I think 4 autobids is dead for the time being, even for 2026. The SEC was really the one pushing that number, the Big 10 was looking for 3. Unless 2025 is more substantial for the SEC, I don't see them taking those optics. Even alot of national media guys are speculating that it would be a brazen move if there's another postseason like this.
Ole Miss doesn't have the best Big Xii head to head results. As for Kiffin teams, Baylor whipped them in Sugar in 2022, Tech beat them the next season in Texas Bowl.. Going back to 2014 in the Peach Bowl, #6 TCU was up on #9 Ole Miss 28 -0 at halftime, and beat them 42-3 back in 2014 (TCU's 2nd year in Big Xii). I put my money on BYU over Ole Miss if they really did play this year.
Dude! For every Joel Kllatt there's 3 who speaks differently. The SEC is what you'd like the B12 to be.Sankey and the SEC really appreciate all the free pub.Not as if it's needed but thx.
Dude! SEC is trending in the wrong direction and if you can't see that you are either lying to yourself or too blind to see it. Sankey and the SEC really starting to sweat. Not as if it will help but you're welcome.
Alabama apologists: Alabama didn't play their best guys against Michigan, that's the only reason they lost. Reality: Alabama only played 1 quarterback against Michigan: Their 1st string QB: Jalen Milroe (32 pass attempts). Alabama primarily used rushers against Michigan: Their 1st and 2nd best rushers for the year: Jalen Milroe (16 carries) and Jam Miller (10 carries). Alabama primarily used receivers against Michigan: Their 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 5th best receivers for the year: Germie Bernard (4 receptions), Ryan Williams (3 receptions) and Jam Miller (3 receptions) and CJ Dippre (2 receptions).
BIG12: "You want answers?" Cow high fan: "I think I’m ENTITLED!" BIG12: "You want answers?" Cow high fan: "I want the truth!" BIG12: "You can’t handle the truth!" "Son, we live in a college football landscape with actual competition, and that landscape is guarded by teams with talent and grit-teams like Arizona State that dismantled your hype machine like it was a backyard practice squad. Who’s going to take accountability for your team's lack of substance? You? Over-hyped cow fans and coaching staff? The BIG12 has a greater understanding of wins and losses than you could possibly fathom. You weep for cow high’s rankings and curse reality. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what we know: that Arizona State's dominance, while tragic for your ego, was the truth your fragile fandom couldn't bear. And that our words, as biting as they may be, are as undeniable as the scoreboard. Deep down in places you don’t talk about at alumni back-pattin's and tailgate-bumpin's, you know your schedule was weak. You know you cling to a narrative of relevance like it’s burnt orange life support. But that’s where we differ-we acknowledge truth, and you peddle excuses. Cow high fan: "Did the game really go as badly for the cows as most think?" BIG12: "You're damn right it did!"
Poke fun all you want, I firmly believe ASU will be undefeated and the #1 overall seed in next seasons playoffs. Yes, I know Skattebo is gone. I know the team. Barring major injuries, watch for this to happen
@chikwadokanu9365 I agree. ASU, BYU, I like Kansas State QB and you never know what other teams will be good. I'm actually rooting for the conference now. I never cared about conference until ASU joined the Big 12. I'm all in now
That number is all Texas.ASU would never draw anything close to that.People tuned in because it got close at the end.And the B12 will never get any respect because you guys celebrate loses and playing a close game.SEC doesn't do that.Move on and start preparing for next year.
@@michaeltaylors2456 Nailed it!!! They think they’re the only ones that have to take losses in their own conference. Gtfo. Oh. Btw…don’t they play one less conference game than the other leagues in their SEC circle J?
The ideal scenario for the Big XII would be a Texas vs. Notre Dame championship game, with Notre Dame coming out on top. This outcome would boost ASU’s credibility, as they were so close to defeating Texas, while also preventing the Power 2 conferences from claiming another national title.
Excellent work John!
Who's the biggest star & most memorable player of this college football playoffs & what conference did he play for? His name is Skattebo!! He played for ASU in the Big 12 conference
Skattebo is a beast
Best case scenario is Texas loses a CLOSE game to Ohio State. That way ASU loss to Texas looks good but the SEC doesn't get to or win the Championship
What have we learned this year? That pre-season expectations and talent rankings are nonsense and we put way too much emphasis on them. Hopefully the lesson sticks but I have doubts.
For The Algorithm 📊
…meanwhile eSECon just released their “way too early top25” poll & “ranked” 5 sec teams in the top10 (UF, Auburn, Ole Miss, UGA, Alabama)…so the circus continues
More propaganda.
I’d really like to see Penn State or Notre Dame. Ohio State needs to get knocked down a peg. They are obnoxious like the SEC.
Texas & Ohio State both coming off 2 playoff wins the difference is (Believe it or not) ASU is a physical team that beat Texas up, whereas Ohio State faced a finesse Oregon team.
Let's just be honest. SEC fans & media deserve to be despised cus they want to eliminate all other non SEC/BiG 10 teams from ever being part of the playoffs thereby hurting the sport by taking interest & hope away from fans of about 100 non SEC teams. They're also condescending, obnoxious & arrogant
You can say that again. 👍🏻
None of that is true. Do you not see your own ridiculous hate?
Then you should be happy when the SEC/BIG break away and go do their own thing and get out of your way.....but I bet you are not..... I bet whoever your school is would stab the rest of the B12 in the back for an SEC/BIG invite and be part of the breakaway. So in the end, you despising of P2 fans is really just jealousy and anxiety about your own schools insecurities.
@ No actually i do. you're the one bitching.
Thank you. Finally someone says it. These fan bases are perfectly fine ruining the sport for most college fanbase so they can have an easier route to a NCG appearance and more money. They are despicable.
The tide is changing, pun intended.
@@roywall8169 Dude! BAMA will be in and go further in the upcoming cfp before anyone in the B12.The teams there don't have any staying power.History tells us that.I bet you ASU will struggle to make a bowl next year.And that's the BIG DIFFERENCES in these 2 conferences.
SEC season should be over
The SEC apologists aren’t necessarily wrong on any given point; to me the biggest problem is the shifting logic from game to game that adds up to wins proving their superiority and losses being explained away.
In the end, the BIG12 vividly demonstrated three key realities: (1) The BIG12 remains a deeper and more competitive conference top-to-bottom than the sec, (2) cow high has always been and continues to be an overhyped mediocrity propped up by theatrics and marketing rather than performance, and (3) sec fans crumble into defensive posturing when exposed and confronted with uncomfortable truths.
Sec theoretical abstractions (i.e., ‘we can beat anyone because our uniforms are prettier’) only underscore Krieg Stinkey's reliance on hype over substance. The sheer volume of vague posturing reeks of someone trying to sound insightful but only managing to produce verbal flatulence.
So, jasonjames, scurry back to your Romper Room sandbox-let the grown-ups of the BIG12 handle the real conversation about the status of and improving college football.
Great work, Johann.
@HoustonCougarsGermany I'm all about that but let's be honest the B12 is not the SEC. ASU played a good final 10 minutes to make the game interesting. Down double digits the whole game and 24-8 with 10 minutes left.The talent between the 2 leagues are like night and day.If so deep why LSU spanked Baylor with mostly their 2nd and 3rd string .And Arkansas did the same to Texas TECH with half the team opt out and had 3rd stringers playing.Commo man I know you love your conference but let's be real here.If the SEC called for your school to join how fast do you think it would take for them to say YES.
@@jasonjames1697
Hi, thank you for your collegial response.
True, the SEC is a great conference-rich in history, storied programs, and a revenue-generating powerhouse. But where SEC fandom falters is in declaring superiority based solely on conference affiliation rather than on-field performance. It’s charming, really-this belief that simply wearing an SEC jersey grants instant dominance, as if wins and losses are secondary to branding. But let’s look at reality, shall we?
Take Houston, for example-a program often overlooked by the self-appointed gatekeepers of college football glory. In 2016, UH didn’t just compete with a #3-ranked Oklahoma team-they demolished them (since we’re using SEC-fan terminology here). And this season, Houston nearly took down that same Oklahoma-a team that, I might add, annihilated Alabama. Last season, the Cougars came within a referee’s dubious call of beating Texas (yes, the ‘mighty’ Cow High). These aren’t hypotheticals-they’re actual games with real outcomes. And considering the massive disparities in recruiting class rankings and revenue, these performances speak volumes. Meanwhile, SEC fans continue playing the ‘what if’ game, assuming automatic wins over non-SEC teams. Fascinating, but not exactly grounded in fact. Wins must be earned.
But let’s go further. If a program like UH, with limited conference resources, can achieve this kind of success, imagine what they’d accomplish with SEC-level funding and exposure. Their recruiting footprint in Houston-one of the richest talent pools in the nation-would become a fortress. Perhaps that’s why Texas worked so hard to keep UH out of the BIG12 for so long. Fear of competition can be a powerful motivator, no?
And yet, here we are, still pretending that a closed-loop SEC championship masquerading as a national title is what’s best for college football. It’s not. The true essence of the sport lies in its regional diversity and underdog triumphs-games won on the field, not decided in preseason polls, TV contracts, or committee rooms. That’s why a legitimate College Football National Championship should feature regional conference champions, not just the richest programs clustered in a super league. If the SEC and Big10 want to secede and create their own December spectacle, more power to them. I’m sure their fans will love it-but many of us will happily find something else to watch.
At the end of the day, teams like Houston and other so-called ‘outsiders’ have earned the right to compete at the highest level-and they’ve proven they can. Despite the SEC echo chamber, college football’s greatest moments have often come from teams that refuse to be defined by conference logos. Perhaps it’s time to reward actual performance rather than perpetuating an outdated myth of inherent dominance. And, for the record, the ‘C-team’ and ‘third-string’ excuses have become tiresome. If a team can’t muster the heart to show up and play, perhaps they should be banned from competition for a season-it’s college football, not a paycheck scrimmage.
I hope you’ll take this response as constructive feedback and not a personal affront.
Take care.
SEC dominating the title picture for like 13 years is not a myth. The fact Indiana just blew through your conference unchecked and Clemson gets an autobid with three losses speaks more to those conferences.
Sankey eill be a buyer in expamsion now, that will hurt Big 12's closing ability.
roster size 120 to 105🤪
I don't understand the talent argument of the SEC crowd. Why is NFL draft picks a measure? Duke and Kentucky get a lot of NBA players drafted and it doesn't translate to winning natties. Is the SEC going to become a sports agency instead of a sports conference?
Isn't talent profile a reasonable way to compare teams with similar records in an environment where there aren't very many head to head data points available? Or to ask you another way, don't you think ESPN SP+ incorporates talent into the ranking they use, which is influential especially by ESPN's own talking heads?
@jbrock8596 Talent profile matters. It should also be properly weighted. Quality coaching is a great equalizer.
Yea I think it does matter and is a great starting point. However general logic shows us that there’s a lot of great college players that don’t translate to the NFL and a lot of hall of famers that weren’t necessarily so dominant in college
@@jdabomb8064 Based on the players on NFL rosters to start the 24 seasons, out of the top 10 schools they played for, 5 were from the SEC and 5 were from the B1G. Yes, the three finalists for the NFL MVP didn't play for the SEC. But I'm saying that those NFL players aren't evenly distributed to every team in a conference so how is the SEC better as a conference if 5 schools represent a majority of the talent drafted? They're making an argument that the B1G is their equal.
@@heartbreak25 yea that’s a good point. I guess it just depends on what you are defining for your conference measure. With that logic you could certainly argue that as far as depth the BIG12 is on par or better with the SEC
The playoff were already 14. ISU & UNLV would have advanced if they had won.
I think 4 autobids is dead for the time being, even for 2026. The SEC was really the one pushing that number, the Big 10 was looking for 3. Unless 2025 is more substantial for the SEC, I don't see them taking those optics. Even alot of national media guys are speculating that it would be a brazen move if there's another postseason like this.
Just a note: Finebaum only “threw in the towel” about Alabama. He backed off of nothing about the sec being superior…which it’s clearly not
Don’t want Texas or Noter Dame to win pulling for Penn State
It’s not a myth when the sec has won 19 national championships since 1992. That’s over 30 years of history. Big 10 7 and ACC 6 in comparison
Ole Miss doesn't have the best Big Xii head to head results. As for Kiffin teams, Baylor whipped them in Sugar in 2022, Tech beat them the next season in Texas Bowl.. Going back to 2014 in the Peach Bowl, #6 TCU was up on #9 Ole Miss 28 -0 at halftime, and beat them 42-3 back in 2014 (TCU's 2nd year in Big Xii). I put my money on BYU over Ole Miss if they really did play this year.
Dude! For every Joel Kllatt there's 3 who speaks differently. The SEC is what you'd like the B12 to be.Sankey and the SEC really appreciate all the free pub.Not as if it's needed but thx.
Does Sankey value publicity or wins?
Dude! SEC is trending in the wrong direction and if you can't see that you are either lying to yourself or too blind to see it. Sankey and the SEC really starting to sweat. Not as if it will help but you're welcome.
@@heartbreak25 Sankey values money
Do you speak English? I can see you don't write it very well. Must be an SEC education 😅
Lutz the Putz.
BYU ole Miss.
Let’s do it
I see you just can't bring yourself to say that Illinois beat South Carolina.
#BYUFOOTBALL Beats Ole' Miss. They're simply Better!
Ŧ beat Iowa State AND Arizona State...
Texas is not going to beat Ohio State
Alabama apologists: Alabama didn't play their best guys against Michigan, that's the only reason they lost.
Reality:
Alabama only played 1 quarterback against Michigan: Their 1st string QB: Jalen Milroe (32 pass attempts).
Alabama primarily used rushers against Michigan: Their 1st and 2nd best rushers for the year: Jalen Milroe (16 carries) and Jam Miller (10 carries).
Alabama primarily used receivers against Michigan: Their 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 5th best receivers for the year: Germie Bernard (4 receptions), Ryan Williams (3 receptions) and Jam Miller (3 receptions) and CJ Dippre (2 receptions).
BIG12: "You want answers?"
Cow high fan: "I think I’m ENTITLED!"
BIG12: "You want answers?"
Cow high fan: "I want the truth!"
BIG12: "You can’t handle the truth!"
"Son, we live in a college football landscape with actual competition, and that landscape is guarded by teams with talent and grit-teams like Arizona State that dismantled your hype machine like it was a backyard practice squad. Who’s going to take accountability for your team's lack of substance? You? Over-hyped cow fans and coaching staff? The BIG12 has a greater understanding of wins and losses than you could possibly fathom.
You weep for cow high’s rankings and curse reality. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what we know: that Arizona State's dominance, while tragic for your ego, was the truth your fragile fandom couldn't bear. And that our words, as biting as they may be, are as undeniable as the scoreboard.
Deep down in places you don’t talk about at alumni back-pattin's and tailgate-bumpin's, you know your schedule was weak. You know you cling to a narrative of relevance like it’s burnt orange life support. But that’s where we differ-we acknowledge truth, and you peddle excuses.
Cow high fan: "Did the game really go as badly for the cows as most think?"
BIG12: "You're damn right it did!"
Poke fun all you want, I firmly believe ASU will be undefeated and the #1 overall seed in next seasons playoffs. Yes, I know Skattebo is gone. I know the team. Barring major injuries, watch for this to happen
I'd like to see it. Good luck. Btw, BYU will be tough next season.
@chikwadokanu9365 I agree. ASU, BYU, I like Kansas State QB and you never know what other teams will be good. I'm actually rooting for the conference now. I never cared about conference until ASU joined the Big 12. I'm all in now
That number is all Texas.ASU would never draw anything close to that.People tuned in because it got close at the end.And the B12 will never get any respect because you guys celebrate loses and playing a close game.SEC doesn't do that.Move on and start preparing for next year.
Weird take lady. Texas was in the Big12 less than 1 year ago
Girl, you don't seem to be able to write sentences very well. Perhaps you can ask your husband for grammar & English lessons😅
@@andynoutah1234Tell Her😅
SEC celebrates their losses to each other. Kind of like a circle J
@@michaeltaylors2456 Nailed it!!! They think they’re the only ones that have to take losses in their own conference. Gtfo. Oh. Btw…don’t they play one less conference game than the other leagues in their SEC circle J?