ASU is freaking impressive.I’m a WVU fan and love to see our Big 12 members kick a$$.Young coach and talent.If they can keep their team together in the off season they will be a force next year.Congratulations ASU Sundevils!
@@Factory132z and the blown call. Both were factors. Any logical person can see that. ASU should have handled business, but to act like the blown call had no effect is being willfully ignorant.
@@Factory132z 4th and 13 doesn’t even come into play if the proper call was made. Pointing to an opportunity later on is disingenuous. Furthermore, if the officials keep giving a team extra chances, they are eventually going to hit the jackpot. Which is among the different ways these officials manipulate games, Reviewing that obvious targeting play then pretending nothing happened is so egregious that there’s no other way to rationally explain it away other than ESPN made sure their SEC team wasn’t going to lose. I can only imagine the back room conversations going on during that review…..
To all hating on the Big 12, here is a little history of this. I am an ASU fan and this is all applicable to what happened today, ASU recently dealt with wins being stricken from their record and limits on their recruiting due to Herm Edwards and his staff. A part of the limits to their recruiting affected Dilly's first true recruiting class leading ASU to relying on transfer prospect to a team that had just had only 3 wins and were headed to only another 3 win season. This team rallied around the coaching staff and moving to the big 12, ASU was slated to be the 16th ranked Big 12 team and were maybe around 90 to 100 in the nation. They had a cast off RB that no one wanted except Dilly, a freshman qb from Mich St that was not going to sniff the field, a bunch of offensive players that had great talent that everyone ignored because of the team and a defense that everyone said was an absolute bottom tier defense. They came into the Big 12 and competed as one of the best 4 teams in the conference with 2 Big 12 OGs and 2 Pac 12 new comers. They won the conference with 3 other teams that should have been considered above other teams that made it into the playoffs, ASU then took Texas the favorite to win the National Championship at the start of the season to the ropes and the what ifs of how close ASU could have won the game. Good on Texas, but the Big 12 deserves more respect and consideration going forward.
@merl-bz1bx NIL doesnt matter when recruiting restrictions are imposed. Yes for the future that's a big deal but I think a lot of players will see the success of the Big 12 coaches and join based off good coaching vs a massive payday. I could be wrong but most player want to play every season vs 1 maybe 2 years.
BYU doesn’t play ASU in the regular season next year and they both return a ton of talent. Itll be interesting to see if we can get two teams in next year if they end up meeting in the Big12 championship. Conference is really a lot deeper than people think though so we will see. I’m happy with this conference though it feels homie and the fanbases are all pretty rad.
Seeing Arizona St and their fans and Jake the Snake with those old school 96 uniforms was freakin awesome. Everything Asu has been through and its looking like they could be that new banner team in the Big12 (sorry kewgs) Arizona St has always been able to recruit very well. I think this is awesome for the conference. Just gotta get these Utes back on track and the Big12 can bounce back from what I thought was a very average year. The big12 has way more potential than what they represented this year.
Agree 💯. I told a friend when they got the bye it wasn't a good thing. They were playing too well at the end of the season to just sit around for a month waiting for the next game. I need to expand the playoff to 16 teams and no byes.
I wanna point one thing out about the Big 12 this year. So it plays 9 conference games, more than the SEC and ACC. It also played TWO non-conference games between Big 12 teams and a bowl game between Big 12 teams. Baylor vs Utah, Arizona vs K-State, and BYU vs Colorado. The Big 12 played against itself more than any other conference, probably ever. Baylor may have had 9 wins on the season, Arizona may have had a better had it not gotten blown out by K-State. Colorado and BYU could have beaten other P4 teams in bowl games.
This is why I was so upset there were no bowl games vs big10 or SEC teams. Could there be a conspiracy that they're protecting the Big12 from looking like an inferior conference?
Best way to do the playoffs going forward is with 14 teams. The top two teams from the P4 conferences make the playoffs, and the conference champions get the 1-4 seeds. Only the top 2 ranked teams get a bye and there is a spot for the best G5 school and 5 at large bids. 12 teams play the first week and the 2 teams with a bye play the bottom remaining seeds.
Great show, John. You're right about Coach Sanders. I was annoyed that his team was getting all the attention during the season, when it was a careless Hail Mary defense by Baylor that had kept the Buffs in the race. But then i started watching his interviews; he is the fairest, most straightforward dude out there, who praises the other team and takes full responsibility for Colorado's results. Also, huge respect for him having his son and Hunter play in bowl.
I have never seen so much conference solidarity than in the Big 12. Within the Big 12, it is anti-toxic. I think this is due to there not being any program which has any superdominant history or glaringly superior brand value. It's probably helped by the fact that the Big 12 is under constant assault, though ASU's performance, combined with the Bama/SoCar losing, was precisely what the B12 needed to reduce that. I don't know if this has any effect in actual games, but my guess is it "feels good" for ASU to know that Colorado, BYU, ISU fans are all pulling for ASU against Texas nearly as hard as they are for their own team. Even Utah, the most toxic this year due to being the only team with a positive experience in their previous conference, was always a minority of the fans, and their attitude was quickly put down and probably won't be coming back. I think the experiences of BYU, the hateful 8, and the ex-AAC adds resulted in a bit of a "siege mentality" for the fanbases. Colorado/Arizona/ASU fans, while knowing that they likely are getting less TV money than if the Pac-12 had competent leadership and stayed together (the current Big 12 contract is higher than the previous Pac-12 contract, but less than what a current Pac-12 contract would be if the conference stayed together and wasn't led by idiots), never had amazing experiences within the Pac-12, and were always geographically apart from the Pac-8, and so range from Colorado with their Deon vision quest thing, to what I gather is a "meh" attitude of the Arizona/ASU fanbases. Though that may change as the Arizona fanbases see that the Big 12, at least temperamentally, feels more cozy due to not having any prima-donnas. Basically, at this point, as a BYU fan, I really "like" this conference and would actually NOT want BYU to go to the Big 10 if hell froze over and BYU got that offer.
ASU didn't play their best game and still had a chance to win it in overtime ....(never mind the refs not calling penalties against Texas ) Thats it thats all ! Good game ASU should have won , Texas was the better team when they needed to be. This hurts as an ASU fan for now. Incentive for 2025. Forks Still Up !!
The issue I have is the Big12 needs to win these games. We are at the point now where there are no moral victories. The Big12 still lost by 8 in overtime to Texas. They had several chances to win but didn't. This Texas team still hasn't really played an elite top 10 team besides Georgia and they lost to them twice. Ohio State is going to blow them out. This reminds me of Oklahoma years ago losing to Alabama in the CFP and saying that after they were down 28-0 they fought back to lose 45-34 with Alabama kneeling on Oklahoma's 1 yard line at the end of the game. I do agree that the Big12 was better than the ACC this year and BYU should have gotten in.
Man I wanted ASU to beat them so bad. They played a lot tougher than I thought they would and credit to you JK, you basically called it. And yes, there's no way "they" were letting Texas go out like that. Awful
Love my boys and so happy with the effort. But man that 4th and 13 is gonna just kill for awhile. We took away every weapon almost but that Golden kid and we let him be wide open in the end zone. That’s just gonna haunt me
Finbaum is a SEC fanboy. Only reason Bama was in the conversation is because their name is Alabama. If it were Kentucky with the same resume and a win agains Georgia, no way they would have been considered.
Texas was called for 10 accepted penalties. Arizona state committed what might have been targeting, and it wasn't even looked at. Got a second chance on the 2- point conversion that tied the game. Touchdown given when ball carrier was pulled into end zone by lineman....not legal. Clear pulling of jersey....no interference. Should I go on?
Swallowing the whistle like you said it's very bad for a sport especially in a big playoff game. That rule is being harped on at every level and letting that slide tells every team that hey you can just target at the end of a game when it matters and you won't get called for it. Rules are rules for a reason. Refs need to make the dam calls and not swallow a whistle.
They should expand to 16 though, that would provide like... 1 more spot for the 1 bid "P4" leagues... and maybe another G5 and two more spots for SEC/B1G schools.
Finebaum said he was wrong, but he didn’t apologize. And why should he when being right or wrong was never his point? His purpose was not to be right but to shape the discussion. His major platform influenced voters, which in turn influenced the committee. The job was already done. Calling that an apology is like saying Goldman Sachs apologized in 2008. Sure, it happened, but it doesn’t undo the damage.
Amazing performance from ASU...... Texas was very fortunate to survive (!) -- very fortunate ! - - - OHIO STATE was even more "amazing" in their ''demolition" of 'undefeated' and # 1 Oregon !!! The ONLY team that was undefeated -- in the country ?!? --- Never before - has a #1 ranked team - trailed by 34 --- 0 !?! Amazing as it can get ?!? - - - SMU likely didn't belong. -- In my view 12 teams are just too many. -?- Not that many with a realistic chance to win it all.
All y’all behaving as thought that targeting no-call on ASU was the only questionable call. There were at least 4 calls that should have gone against ASU but weren’t called or incorrectly called! 1. Targeting on Quinn in 3rd quarter (not called) 2. PI on Texas on an uncatchable call 3. Scattebo being pulled/lifted by an OL into the end zone, 5 yard penalty not called! pushing is permitted, pulling and lifting is not! Rule 9-3-2 Section 3! 4. OPI not called on Scattebo, when he clearly pushed the DB. So quit complaining! Both teams didn’t get calls there way! Oh and Texas had more judgement call penalties than ASU did! Oh and Texas was without its 2 top OL, and it’s 2 top RBs! So ASU missing their best defensive player and best WR is nothing to cry about! The best team in the Big 12, with an extra week off, lost to the SEC runner up! Seriously, that means BYU deserved a spot?
There's no eyetest, there is a complete conspiracy to ensure the ACC and big-12 get 1 team in each year into the playoff AND THAT IS ALL. I do think they would rather the big-12 than the American.... even if it was Army or Navy. The ONLY reason SMU was in was to protect the conference championship game. It was an accident. They hoped they had an excuse to exclude them. Any of those three SEC teams (two of which lost their bowls) being two loss would have done it. You're not getting any consideration big-12. No one really wants it outside of a few relatively small big-12 fanbases. Those aren't the target audiences. To be clear, most of the big-12, outside of WVU and Colorado, who have a bit of history, is the dregs of the former big-12, and a group of former G5 tier schools (including both Arizona schools who were in the WAC in the PAC-8 days).
What happened to Baylor? They were supposedly the hottest team in the league and no one opting out. Drake Toll, Baylor alum, was ready to bet his mom that Baylor would crush LSU after their whole team opted out. That really hurt the "B12 deserves respect" mantra.
Clearly only playoff for football is to just have bowl games and let the pundits vote for the championship. Hell we can have 3 national championships every year!! Alabama could proclaim themselves champions too!!
well, they were coming off a 3 win season, so i understand why the B12 media would not think there would be a lot of improvement. They were proved wrong which is part of the great feeling about the season.
You still don't get it. We tried to warn you that killing the Pac-12 would not make you a peer of the Big Ten and SEC. You wouldn't listen. You got what you wanted -- and now, blatantly, the money decided that Texas had to make the next game to play in the Cotton Bowl with the no-call on the targeting. The Big 12 just got devalued to where you shouldn't watch it if you care about games that actually matter for the national championship. You guys are forever second tier to the SEC, the Big Ten, and maybe Notre Dame. ASU is just buying time in the Big 12 until they get their invite to the Big Ten.
> ASU is just buying time in the Big 12 until they get their invite to the Big Ten They're gonna have a long wait in that line as there are several schools ahead of them.
Big 12 sucks so bad that the fans are claiming moral victories as signs of life for the conference. Thank goodness big 12 brought in BYU and ASU or yall really would have been atrocious! Smh sad state for the big 12, but if moral victories make you feel better than by all means!😅 smh
Who was whining? JK said ASU had their chance to win on the 4th and 13. Any logical person can agree with that as well as saying the refs blew the call. The rules analyst on ESPN as well as Terry McAulay said it was targeting. I’ll take their assessment over any random RUclips know it all.
@@DavidKroffAnd what do you call *Pulling* your RB into the End Zone? That was a blatant penalty that wasn’t called against ASU that resulted in a touchdown. It is legal to push your own guy to keep forward motion, but very specifically isn’t to pull him. Both teams benefited from blown calls. ASU lost. Plain and simple, and I’m saying this as someone who didn’t care whatsoever who won. If it makes you feel any better neither Texas nor ASU stand a chance against Ohio State anyway.
Check the rule about an offensive lineman dragging a running back backwards and picking him upoff of the ground and WWE him into the end zone am i the only person that seen that
I will never respect a conference of crybabies Arizona State had the ball first and goal at the Texas 5 didnt score and the last touchdown by ASU the offensive lineman picked up the running back and drug him in the endzone thats illegal
ASU is freaking impressive.I’m a WVU fan and love to see our Big 12 members kick a$$.Young coach and talent.If they can keep their team together in the off season they will be a force next year.Congratulations ASU Sundevils!
the tailback is gone to the pros
Im sure the HC will leave soon with triple the money he's making now. Its the unfortunate ways of college football today.
Great observations! A step forward today for the Big12. We should be proud of ASU.
not bad for a team just coming into the league. NIL will help some if it gets approved. Owes money I think
Mad respect for ASU.... I love my Longhorns, but you guys played a Hell of a game.
Big12 was well represented. We'll get the SEC next time. Just gotta bribe some refs.
@@Sin_Brings_Death cry. keep stacking "L"s
If the officials make the proper call, ASU would have had a chance to win it before OT.
4th and 13
@@Factory132z and the blown call. Both were factors. Any logical person can see that. ASU should have handled business, but to act like the blown call had no effect is being willfully ignorant.
@@STC987 is not necessarily blown they hit face mask to face mask it's not like it was the top or leading with the top of the helmet. 50/50
@@Factory132z 4th and 13 doesn’t even come into play if the proper call was made. Pointing to an opportunity later on is disingenuous.
Furthermore, if the officials keep giving a team extra chances, they are eventually going to hit the jackpot. Which is among the different ways these officials manipulate games,
Reviewing that obvious targeting play then pretending nothing happened is so egregious that there’s no other way to rationally explain it away other than ESPN made sure their SEC team wasn’t going to lose. I can only imagine the back room conversations going on during that review…..
@@Factory132z Defenseless player, doesn't have to be top of the helmet. The rule is pretty clear.
To all hating on the Big 12, here is a little history of this. I am an ASU fan and this is all applicable to what happened today, ASU recently dealt with wins being stricken from their record and limits on their recruiting due to Herm Edwards and his staff. A part of the limits to their recruiting affected Dilly's first true recruiting class leading ASU to relying on transfer prospect to a team that had just had only 3 wins and were headed to only another 3 win season. This team rallied around the coaching staff and moving to the big 12, ASU was slated to be the 16th ranked Big 12 team and were maybe around 90 to 100 in the nation. They had a cast off RB that no one wanted except Dilly, a freshman qb from Mich St that was not going to sniff the field, a bunch of offensive players that had great talent that everyone ignored because of the team and a defense that everyone said was an absolute bottom tier defense. They came into the Big 12 and competed as one of the best 4 teams in the conference with 2 Big 12 OGs and 2 Pac 12 new comers. They won the conference with 3 other teams that should have been considered above other teams that made it into the playoffs, ASU then took Texas the favorite to win the National Championship at the start of the season to the ropes and the what ifs of how close ASU could have won the game. Good on Texas, but the Big 12 deserves more respect and consideration going forward.
NIL is important now
@merl-bz1bx NIL doesnt matter when recruiting restrictions are imposed. Yes for the future that's a big deal but I think a lot of players will see the success of the Big 12 coaches and join based off good coaching vs a massive payday. I could be wrong but most player want to play every season vs 1 maybe 2 years.
BYU doesn’t play ASU in the regular season next year and they both return a ton of talent. Itll be interesting to see if we can get two teams in next year if they end up meeting in the Big12 championship. Conference is really a lot deeper than people think though so we will see. I’m happy with this conference though it feels homie and the fanbases are all pretty rad.
Seeing Arizona St and their fans and Jake the Snake with those old school 96 uniforms was freakin awesome. Everything Asu has been through and its looking like they could be that new banner team in the Big12 (sorry kewgs) Arizona St has always been able to recruit very well. I think this is awesome for the conference. Just gotta get these Utes back on track and the Big12 can bounce back from what I thought was a very average year. The big12 has way more potential than what they represented this year.
Bunch of good points John. As a Red Raider who put 2 boys thru ASU (both graduated Magna Cum Laude) I was very proud of ASU’s fight.
Thanks for the status, Karen.
@ said the sssy
why you are from Lubbock lol. They stacked an L also
Honestly think ASU not playing the previous round hurt them, had a month off roughly and came out slow in all 3 phases.
Agree 💯. I told a friend when they got the bye it wasn't a good thing. They were playing too well at the end of the season to just sit around for a month waiting for the next game. I need to expand the playoff to 16 teams and no byes.
I wanna point one thing out about the Big 12 this year. So it plays 9 conference games, more than the SEC and ACC. It also played TWO non-conference games between Big 12 teams and a bowl game between Big 12 teams.
Baylor vs Utah, Arizona vs K-State, and BYU vs Colorado. The Big 12 played against itself more than any other conference, probably ever.
Baylor may have had 9 wins on the season, Arizona may have had a better had it not gotten blown out by K-State. Colorado and BYU could have beaten other P4 teams in bowl games.
Everyone from Manhattan to Lawrence Kansas wanted Colorado. Funny but laughable. awful
This is why I was so upset there were no bowl games vs big10 or SEC teams. Could there be a conspiracy that they're protecting the Big12 from looking like an inferior conference?
Kinda have to give credit to PAC 12. Arizona State and Oregon won their leagues.
And Arizona State played better today!
How offer do you see the Bowl Committee give the MVP to the losing team? You don't, this was legendary.
Imagine if Tyson was playing.
he wasn't sooo
imagine if Texas wasn't missing 3 offensive linemen
An ASU loss did more for the Big 12 than the TCU win over Michigan.
Best way to do the playoffs going forward is with 14 teams. The top two teams from the P4 conferences make the playoffs, and the conference champions get the 1-4 seeds. Only the top 2 ranked teams get a bye and there is a spot for the best G5 school and 5 at large bids. 12 teams play the first week and the 2 teams with a bye play the bottom remaining seeds.
no. Its awful as it is. you don't stand a chance when teams are full strength.
@@merl-bz1bx what? You still drunk from new years?
They would have won it either before or during the OT had their one safety not gone brain dead and let the reciever run straight past him both times.
Touchdown Texas and gets the Two Point Conversion
@@merl-bz1bx speaking of brain dead.
Well if we’re playing that game, the game wouldn’t have gone into overtime if Texas had a kicker who knew how to kick!
Enjoyed it as always John! Thanks!
Great show, John. You're right about Coach Sanders. I was annoyed that his team was getting all the attention during the season, when it was a careless Hail Mary defense by Baylor that had kept the Buffs in the race. But then i started watching his interviews; he is the fairest, most straightforward dude out there, who praises the other team and takes full responsibility for Colorado's results. Also, huge respect for him having his son and Hunter play in bowl.
As a neutral I was pulling so hard for ASU. That was *almost* a Boise vs OU Fiesta Bowl moment. Still enjoyed seeing them put up a fight.
Boise got stomped yesterday
I have never seen so much conference solidarity than in the Big 12. Within the Big 12, it is anti-toxic. I think this is due to there not being any program which has any superdominant history or glaringly superior brand value. It's probably helped by the fact that the Big 12 is under constant assault, though ASU's performance, combined with the Bama/SoCar losing, was precisely what the B12 needed to reduce that. I don't know if this has any effect in actual games, but my guess is it "feels good" for ASU to know that Colorado, BYU, ISU fans are all pulling for ASU against Texas nearly as hard as they are for their own team.
Even Utah, the most toxic this year due to being the only team with a positive experience in their previous conference, was always a minority of the fans, and their attitude was quickly put down and probably won't be coming back.
I think the experiences of BYU, the hateful 8, and the ex-AAC adds resulted in a bit of a "siege mentality" for the fanbases. Colorado/Arizona/ASU fans, while knowing that they likely are getting less TV money than if the Pac-12 had competent leadership and stayed together (the current Big 12 contract is higher than the previous Pac-12 contract, but less than what a current Pac-12 contract would be if the conference stayed together and wasn't led by idiots), never had amazing experiences within the Pac-12, and were always geographically apart from the Pac-8, and so range from Colorado with their Deon vision quest thing, to what I gather is a "meh" attitude of the Arizona/ASU fanbases. Though that may change as the Arizona fanbases see that the Big 12, at least temperamentally, feels more cozy due to not having any prima-donnas. Basically, at this point, as a BYU fan, I really "like" this conference and would actually NOT want BYU to go to the Big 10 if hell froze over and BYU got that offer.
You really think the Big10 would have interest when it took byu 20 years to finally get into a power conference?
@@jeremyspence3951 - It's never too late to improve your reading comprehension.
@fringeelements you don't want the Big10 because you like this easier ride to the playoffs which basically sums up Byu football in a nut shell.
You should at least get the benefit of the doubt against the ACC next year
the schedules have been made years in advance
@@merl-bz1bx you make a comment on everything and none of it makes sense. You okay?
ASU didn't play their best game and still had a chance to win it in overtime ....(never mind the refs not calling penalties against Texas ) Thats it thats all ! Good game ASU should have won , Texas was the better team when they needed to be. This hurts as an ASU fan for now. Incentive for 2025. Forks Still Up !!
The issue I have is the Big12 needs to win these games. We are at the point now where there are no moral victories. The Big12 still lost by 8 in overtime to Texas. They had several chances to win but didn't. This Texas team still hasn't really played an elite top 10 team besides Georgia and they lost to them twice. Ohio State is going to blow them out. This reminds me of Oklahoma years ago losing to Alabama in the CFP and saying that after they were down 28-0 they fought back to lose 45-34 with Alabama kneeling on Oklahoma's 1 yard line at the end of the game. I do agree that the Big12 was better than the ACC this year and BYU should have gotten in.
keep stacking those L's
They put there blinders on
*their
Man I wanted ASU to beat them so bad. They played a lot tougher than I thought they would and credit to you JK, you basically called it. And yes, there's no way "they" were letting Texas go out like that. Awful
Love my boys and so happy with the effort. But man that 4th and 13 is gonna just kill for awhile. We took away every weapon almost but that Golden kid and we let him be wide open in the end zone. That’s just gonna haunt me
Finbaum is a SEC fanboy. Only reason Bama was in the conversation is because their name is Alabama. If it were Kentucky with the same resume and a win agains Georgia, no way they would have been considered.
Texas was called for 10 accepted penalties. Arizona state committed what might have been targeting, and it wasn't even looked at. Got a second chance on the 2- point conversion that tied the game. Touchdown given when ball carrier was pulled into end zone by lineman....not legal. Clear pulling of jersey....no interference. Should I go on?
Swallowing the whistle like you said it's very bad for a sport especially in a big playoff game. That rule is being harped on at every level and letting that slide tells every team that hey you can just target at the end of a game when it matters and you won't get called for it. Rules are rules for a reason. Refs need to make the dam calls and not swallow a whistle.
They should expand to 16 though, that would provide like... 1 more spot for the 1 bid "P4" leagues... and maybe another G5 and two more spots for SEC/B1G schools.
Finebaum said he was wrong, but he didn’t apologize. And why should he when being right or wrong was never his point? His purpose was not to be right but to shape the discussion. His major platform influenced voters, which in turn influenced the committee. The job was already done. Calling that an apology is like saying Goldman Sachs apologized in 2008. Sure, it happened, but it doesn’t undo the damage.
Amazing performance from ASU...... Texas was very fortunate to survive (!) -- very fortunate ! - - - OHIO STATE was even more "amazing" in their ''demolition" of 'undefeated' and # 1 Oregon !!! The ONLY team that was undefeated -- in the country ?!? --- Never before - has a #1 ranked team - trailed by 34 --- 0 !?! Amazing as it can get ?!? - - - SMU likely didn't belong. -- In my view 12 teams are just too many. -?- Not that many with a realistic chance to win it all.
All y’all behaving as thought that targeting no-call on ASU was the only questionable call. There were at least 4 calls that should have gone against ASU but weren’t called or incorrectly called!
1. Targeting on Quinn in 3rd quarter (not called)
2. PI on Texas on an uncatchable call
3. Scattebo being pulled/lifted by an OL into the end zone, 5 yard penalty not called! pushing is permitted, pulling and lifting is not! Rule 9-3-2 Section 3!
4. OPI not called on Scattebo, when he clearly pushed the DB.
So quit complaining! Both teams didn’t get calls there way! Oh and Texas had more judgement call penalties than ASU did!
Oh and Texas was without its 2 top OL, and it’s 2 top RBs! So ASU missing their best defensive player and best WR is nothing to cry about!
The best team in the Big 12, with an extra week off, lost to the SEC runner up! Seriously, that means BYU deserved a spot?
Bad call but how do you concede a TD on 4th and 13th in OT. You get your opp in 4th and 13th you must close
There's no eyetest, there is a complete conspiracy to ensure the ACC and big-12 get 1 team in each year into the playoff AND THAT IS ALL. I do think they would rather the big-12 than the American.... even if it was Army or Navy. The ONLY reason SMU was in was to protect the conference championship game. It was an accident. They hoped they had an excuse to exclude them. Any of those three SEC teams (two of which lost their bowls) being two loss would have done it. You're not getting any consideration big-12. No one really wants it outside of a few relatively small big-12 fanbases. Those aren't the target audiences. To be clear, most of the big-12, outside of WVU and Colorado, who have a bit of history, is the dregs of the former big-12, and a group of former G5 tier schools (including both Arizona schools who were in the WAC in the PAC-8 days).
Wait a moment, ASt was a Pac12 team now in the Big12 which is NOT proven, yet. EGA
It's one game.....and Texas played terribly and still won . Let's not get carried away .
What happened to Baylor? They were supposedly the hottest team in the league and no one opting out. Drake Toll, Baylor alum, was ready to bet his mom that Baylor would crush LSU after their whole team opted out.
That really hurt the "B12 deserves respect" mantra.
Baylor got whooped in their own backyard by LSU
either way, NIL is whats really important now
So, why don’t you comment on his show? I don’t understand why it is relevant here.
BYU should have been in instead of Indiana
Moral victories...sheesh.
Paul may have waved the white flag but next year (2025) they will be right back out there SEC SEC
The SEC added Texas. The Big Twelve added Arizona St. Texas beat Arizona St. Seems to me as though the SEC came out ahead.
in everyway, Texas came out ahead. Their money is approved lol also
@@merl-bz1bx No one ever said things would be equal.
Clearly only playoff for football is to just have bowl games and let the pundits vote for the championship. Hell we can have 3 national championships every year!! Alabama could proclaim themselves champions too!!
Ariz state deserves respect. Don't see what the Big 12 has to do with it. The Big 12 media thought they were a bottom of the league.
Its because it is the 'bottom"
I mean, they are in the big 12… so it’s not everything but yeah it does have some to do with it.
well, they were coming off a 3 win season, so i understand why the B12 media would not think there would be a lot of improvement. They were proved wrong which is part of the great feeling about the season.
Michigan is a lot better now then it was at the beginning of the season. I think they will be able to win at least 10 games next year.
Big 12 = 😭
TEXAS LONGHORNS BACK TO BACK BIG12 CHAMPS
There's the Power Two and there's the Group Of Seven.
Hell power one. Big ten don't play no one.
@@NiceHandTick Based on the number of Big Ten teams still in the playoffs, keep telling yourself that.
ASU was being blown out until the 4th quarter. Not sure I would feel vindicated by this game
They got 500 yards of offense lol. Against texas.
Blown out? Clearly you weren't paying attention to the stats.
You still don't get it. We tried to warn you that killing the Pac-12 would not make you a peer of the Big Ten and SEC. You wouldn't listen. You got what you wanted -- and now, blatantly, the money decided that Texas had to make the next game to play in the Cotton Bowl with the no-call on the targeting. The Big 12 just got devalued to where you shouldn't watch it if you care about games that actually matter for the national championship. You guys are forever second tier to the SEC, the Big Ten, and maybe Notre Dame. ASU is just buying time in the Big 12 until they get their invite to the Big Ten.
> ASU is just buying time in the Big 12 until they get their invite to the Big Ten
They're gonna have a long wait in that line as there are several schools ahead of them.
Didn’t pac 12 try to kill big 12 first? Anyway, it was the big 10 that ended the pac 12.
The Big12 finished 4-5, including 0-3 against the SEC. So, things played out on par.
Overrated SEc! Your dominance is over!
Georgia win then it’s a Big 10 vs SEC semifinal
It took a lotta help from the old black and white $$🤑🤠🎹
@@WilliamJohnson-kd1pn Yeah right......7-5 in bowl games. 3-0 vs. the Big Twelve.
Yeah... Bama should have been in the playoff.
Big 12 sucks so bad that the fans are claiming moral victories as signs of life for the conference. Thank goodness big 12 brought in BYU and ASU or yall really would have been atrocious! Smh sad state for the big 12, but if moral victories make you feel better than by all means!😅 smh
I dont agree
Wow. Compelling argument.
Targeting is a crappy rule that is terrible for college football. Please don’t whine about it not being called. Nobody really knows what it is anyway.
Everyone knows what It is. You're in denial.
Who was whining? JK said ASU had their chance to win on the 4th and 13. Any logical person can agree with that as well as saying the refs blew the call. The rules analyst on ESPN as well as Terry McAulay said it was targeting. I’ll take their assessment over any random RUclips know it all.
One of asu best players didn't play first half. Because of less of target call then the non call on texas. So yea it's bs
@@huahin6149 tough, oh well
@@DavidKroffAnd what do you call *Pulling* your RB into the End Zone?
That was a blatant penalty that wasn’t called against ASU that resulted in a touchdown.
It is legal to push your own guy to keep forward motion, but very specifically isn’t to pull him.
Both teams benefited from blown calls. ASU lost. Plain and simple, and I’m saying this as someone who didn’t care whatsoever who won.
If it makes you feel any better neither Texas nor ASU stand a chance against Ohio State anyway.
ASU was beat. And the B12 is out of the national title hunt. They can get together with the MWC loser and compare notes.
Check the rule about an offensive lineman dragging a running back backwards and picking him upoff of the ground and WWE him into the end zone am i the only person that seen that
I will never respect a conference of crybabies Arizona State had the ball first and goal at the Texas 5 didnt score and the last touchdown by ASU the offensive lineman picked up the running back and drug him in the endzone thats illegal
cry me another river. lol
Whatever chump. Go to Walmart and buy another Texas shirt.