So this just broke Star Wars Canon...?
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- Опубликовано: 18 июн 2024
- Episode 4 of Star Wars The Acolyte introduced a cameo of Ki-Adi-Mundi. Which technically cannot be possible. As he wasn't even born during the time-period of the show. So, what's going on here?
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Why are we pretending like there was thought put into him being in the show. They probably thought "oh long head jedi looks cool, lets add him". Thats how far this went.
100% this.
Less we forget the campfire in space.
Edit: apparently because people can't read my follow up comment, I'm updating this.
The scene is an important plot that draws attention to itself. You noticed that it shouldn't be like that compared to background details which you only realize looking back. If it was an explosion it would be done and over with. If it was gas leaking out then the fire would act more as a blowtorch. However in the scene the fire is looks like a standing campfire, not fire being sucked out or an explosion. They had to write the scene out, film it, and edit it. Not a SINGLE person said "this looks a bit silly"
I doubt they would just pick him for no reason , they could’ve picked anyone from’ the high council pre extinction, that’s more popular than him.
@@numnaut1314 Star Wars has always had fire in space since literally the first film
@@LucianPosey he would be the only prequel council member that isn’t yoda or human that the general audience might recognise as I saw someone else say
@@BenDBeast realy where? I know if explosions but i cant remember actual burning fire in space
Ki-Adi Mundi in Episode III: What about the droid attack on the wookies?
Ki-Adi Mundi in the Acolyte: What about the acolyte attack on the wookie?
what about the Disney attack on canon
He doesn’t know what happened yet, if everybody dies and they don’t find bodies there’s no way for him to know that
@@plainbagel9192 what about the Disney attack on the wookies
@@plainbagel9192 Filoni attack you mean. Disney just lets him and the other shitty writers do what they want, they don't care.
What a parallel!
To me it kind of felt like they were just there to remind us that we're watching Star Wars
It's felt like star wars. I wish they didn't because it's a new era and I think it should learn to stand on its own.
@@Dopteros no, it's looked like star wars. it hasn't felt like star wars whatsoever.
@@Dopteros you bring shame to TF2
And yet every fan would cry foul if there wasn't a mention of a mainline character, it seems like either way SW fans just want to be angry about it.
@@balinfoley953 not really. Many fans loved Andor because it was so well done, and the closest that came to a mainline character was Mon Mothma. Similarly Mando Season 1 didn't really include any mainline characters but was very well received.
This is like spaghetti that fell on the floor, and we’re still trying to eat so we’re untangling it with our fingers, to find pasta that hasn’t directly touched the floor, but the more time we spend down here, the colder and dirtier the food gets.
great analogy, it mixes in the sadness and disgust
Best analogy ive ever heard 😂
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@@brettpid6416 thank you. I can taste it, and it reminds me of child times: canned spaghetti o’s that weren’t heated enough.
Disney must have mistaken Ki-Adi Mundi for Yoda who's actually way older and had been around for hundreds of years.
Wouldn’t put it past them. One of the actors thought Anakin blew up the Death Star 🙄
If the events of Young Jedi Adventures are canon (which wouldn't surprise me), Yoda is busy training younglings in a different temple.
Nope, the 93 bby birth day was a legends date, and no shit they know yoda was alive he’s in the comics
@@Bloodfencer1990 Why did they put that series in that time period? Were they scared of the series finale?
@@That_OneRandomGuy It's just part of their whole High Republic thing. Because it meant they got to do Star Wars without any of the baggage that usually comes with it.
That’s great and all but…what about the droid attack on the Wookiees?
What about the sith attack on the wookie
@@beatemandyeetem4705It’s not a story the Jedi would tell you.
Especially not 100 years later when a similar incident pops up and makes you look bad.
I don't remember asking you a damn thing.
(This is a reference. No offense intended.)
You mean, "but what about the droid attack on the Wookieepedia page for Mundi?"
Wookies gone, carry on.
More likely someone in the production said: "wouldn't it be cool if we had a recognizable, but not too recognizable jedi as part of this scene" without giving it too much thought beyond that.
This show isn't gaining any new Star Wars fans because of its level of writing, and this sort of stuff will only make it lose its existing audience
I want to agree with you because it's trash, but anyone who is STILL watching Disney Star wars content at this point is in too deep and will never stop no matter how bad it is. Star Wars has been abysmally awful for a long time now
If they wanted that, why not included Oppo Rancissis? He is pretty recognisable, but not that recognisable. Enough that some fans would recognise him but a lot wouldn't. It would also allow for a reasonably senior Jedi to be present without A. it being Yoda or B. inventing a new character.
@@tk-6967 I think it just again comes back to someone saying "lets add this guy" Ki-Adi-Mundi does have some lines. Unless you're an actual Star Wars fan (which the writers clearly arent) then you'd recognize Oppo Rancisis, but they certainly didn't, because the writers only have a surface level understanding of Star Wars and that's about as far as it goes.
@@RamikinHordePirating exists.
Ki Adi Mundi: “impossible,
the Sith have been extinct for a millennia, tho… there was that one case once with a couple of Jedi missing a century ago…”
The whole council: “I’m sry, what?!”
Ki Adi mundi: “uhh nothing”
Ki Adi Mundi being around doesnt matter, the whole "acolyte" events should been in the records, at the Jedi library anyway.
@@guidorussoheck2100 yet they say the high council shouldn’t know about this so….
Yoda: “Master Mundi! Speak of this you should not! Never happened this did not!”
@@thelittleal1212 Where in the show is it stated that the red lightsaber guy is a sith? Nowhere! So his line from episode 1 is still correct and doesn't break canon.
@@thelittleal1212 Could a dozen Jedi corpses be hidden from 12 masters of the high Council? At some point, the same Yoda would have asked, where did these guys go?
*Even back then... He was truly worried about an attack on any Wookie 😌.* What a time Defining Legend.
I'm glad I wasn't the only one that made this connection.
A long time friend of the Wookies
Even so Ki-Adi didn’t exist yet
Certainly he must have had a DeLorean stashed away somewhere.
🤡🤡🤡
I really hope they’re not retconning it so that he was lying in Phantom in order to cover up the acolyte events 🤦♂️
We need to remember that we as audience are always going to know more than what the characters know because the audience sees things in 3rd person omnipresent POV, while the characters only get info in 1st POV, when they are told or shown something on screen, and in a scene they appear in. The only evidence thus far that Mae might be connected with the Sith is the appearance of Smylo Ren and the red lightsaber at end of episode, and Mundi isn’t there so he can’t know that yet.
Disney being Disney
Nowhere in the show does it say the Master is a Sith. even after given blatent evidence that a dark side wielder DID attack Qui Gon and Obi-Wan the Jedi council ignored it. even when given irrefutable evidence the high council ignored it, only after Qui Gon die did Mace Windu and Yoda go "We might've fucked up"
The Jedi are running off a hubris high, in the context of the universe the Sith are extinct. It is WAY more likely for a force wielder using the dark side with a red lightsaber crystal to be a DARK Jedi, this is also not discussing how the Acolyte has a completely separate force-related faction that is incriminated in the show.
you really hope disney don't fuck up star wars? I have some very bad news for you...
@@EnderTeam101 True, I think the Master is Mae and Osha's birth mother. It could be the witches used to be part of the Sith or follow some of the Sith teachings.
Reminds me of The Fantastic Beasts where they had McGonnagal about 20 years before she was born and she was middle aged there. Just so they could have a cameo or something.
I was thinking the same thing, which is a shame, as those movies don’t deserve our thoughts.
I believe that was Minerva McGonagalls mom or aunt or some such, it wasn't intended to be the same McGonagall as Minerva McGonagall from Harry's time.
Of all fair things to criticize Fantastic Beasts for, that point is relatively weak.
@@Elrohof in the credits it was said to be Minerva and iirc in Crimes of Grindelwald, Dumbledpre called her Minerva.
McGonnagalls mother was called Isobel and she never workes at Hogwarts as she married early to a muggle and spent her life in a village.
Who wrote Fantastic Beasts?
@@jirdan4870 Hmm fair, though still it's a relatively weak point for criticism in the dumpster fire that movie was.
Ki-Adi-Mundi was wrong about literally every line he had in the prequels. They clearly chose him for this very specific reason. This adds to the lore IMO.
I feel like they have a dart on he wall and when it hits they just say "yeah that it" and go with it.
Why do you think thats the case? What if they are including the character in respects to the current canon and shit that has already been established? I think this shows how much they actually care and did their research
@@loganpraz2566Then they're making the Jedi look really stupid for ignoring this for a thousand years.
@@loganpraz2566 They did no researy or they wouldn't get things wrong and break canon in every episode.
@@loganpraz2566 they are making mistake after mistake and you think they are doing good research ? i would give them credit if they made it good but they are just trashing it all and blame everything on gender politics when its them that are ruining everything all by themself.
Mandalorian listens to fans and thanking them for the support, The acolyte instead goes a differant route and going scorched earth
@@loganpraz2566you definitely work for this show
This slaps in the face of Ki-Adi Mundi claiming that the Sith has been extinct for a millennia yet he's there all along.
A dark side user doesn't mean sith
It’s like you all are forgetting they don’t know this is a Sith yet. This doesn’t break canon cause all Ki Adi Mundi thinks is it’s just some ex Jedi training Mae in the force.
No it doesn’t. Has anyone told Mundi that Mae is a Sith; or that her elusive Master is one? No, so how can he know? You seem to forget that we as the audience are always going to know more than what the characters do, as the audience gets the 3rd person/omnipresent view of the story while the characters only get their 1st person POV. This is why dialogue and exposition dumps happen in TV/film, so characters can be told of what is happening when they aren’t on screen. The changing of his age does mess things up, but Jedi don’t know if Mae was taught by a Sith or not, as the first piece of evidence that it might be is when we see the red lightsaber with Smylo Ren at end of episode, and Mundi was not on that mission, so how could he know?
@@JumpingJiraffe They don't need to know, its a sith. It looks like a sith, fights like one so they will assume it is one - just like they did with Maul.
@@ahnok2855Tbf they didn’t believe maul was a sith until after qui gon’s death, most prob same thing here.
People know nothing canon wise and still want to complain. They’re using anything against this show at this point 😂
1:35 oh you precious innocent gullible soul
His age is the least problematic part about introducing him into this story.
There is nothing problematic as long as he doesn't know about the Sith and he himself doesn't think that the Sith are at play in the episode.
@@rigatenes338 He was there for the entire story of the twins being born from the Force, to start.
@@stryfer1989We still don’t have confirmation the twins were born from the Force. All we know is that the Jedi would not be down with how they were created. Could be dark magic, cloning, essence transfer or the Force just to name a few.
@@stryfer1989 No he was not - why are you literally lying?
Its not that hard to google his age.
Star Wars Canon being broken happens as often as I need to take a number 2.
Which reminds me of a fun fact, Disney Star Wars takes heavy inspiration from a number 2
Well said
Disney is still hiring activists with no prior knowledge of star wars. Typical.
Oh hey Blunt Bros, wasn’t expecting to see you here lol
if his birthdate was legends material all along and they aren't sure this dark side user is a sith then how is this a cannon break
I’m taking a poop right now. Guess they broke canon again 😢
People need to stop complaining about this. Anything that expands Ki-Adi Mundi is legends, and even then Legends contradicts itself and clumsily shoved things into the story all the time.
"Break Star Wars Canon" Bro that happened a while ago.
I thought it was just a different one of his species
They say it in the credits
@@carsonr3909Disney will have to introduce even more patchwork lore explaining that "Ki Adi Mundi" is actually a hereditary title, the Jedi we knew from the prequels is now Ki Adi Mundi the 4th
And It would have been completely fine and nobody would have complained about it.
They did this so that people would start a war.
@@thesenate1844 I thought they could just cycle through names each generation.
Ki-Adi Mundi, Ki-Adi Tuesdi, Ki-Adi Wednesdi
Me too
My bet is they will make it so for some reason he is lying during phantom menace for some reason so that it “technically fits” even if its a retcon for retcons sake. Instead of firting a square peg in a circle hole they are just carving the lid off the bucket to fit any shape they want in it without the fear of all the pieces falling out
Yep. They could have avoided this issue by simply setting the show much further back in time, to when the Sith were still active for example.
Obi-Wan was lying about Darth Vader being Luke's father, what's the problem?
I think a small discrepancy to your theory is that the show runners aren't afraid of pieces falling out, they're just tossing in the colorful ones that taste funny.
@@Rezzanine Putting the show when the sith were still active would have been back in the old republic times. That era wont be touched by disney star wars in our lifetime sadly.
@@hunterman458 you're right, I just don't understand why that is their stance, as that era is more compatible with the story they want to tell.
>So they just broke star wars canon
sir, that statement could describe just about everything that disney has done for star wars
that’s not not true at all. There has been plenty of good disney star wars
@@willbb Andor and two seasons of Mandalorian is not "plenty"
That statement could describe any Star Wars after A New Hope, it ain't that big of a deal
@@willbb oh really? no no there isnt any
Are you people too big of tourists to not know that they did that as often as possible, LONG before Lucas ever though of selling Star Wars? TCW literally retcons 90% of the Clone Wars books, comics, sourcebooks and games.
So they changed his age? Who cares I’ve lived through Vader not being Luke’s dad, then being Luke’s dad, and Leias as well, and r2 not knowing Yoda to being Yodas buddy who took him to Degobah for the first time, this really isn’t a big deal, please don’t degenerate into a page for outrage and clicks, your of the few good channels left
Blah blah
Yeah Disney breaking canon is a big deal
Go back and watch the acolyte
They need to views
How does it "break Star Wars canon" to contradict non canon material?
congratulations you're actually smarter than the uploader and all the commenters
It's amazing. Every episode breaks the canon in a new way. It takes amazing incompetence or absolute malice to get it that bad.
😂 who gives a 💩 grown man up you dorks
Pure malice.
It only breaks canon if you assume every character knows everything that’s happening at all times. It’s like saying that Ki-Adi-Mundi even saying the line “the sith have been extinct for millenia” breaks canon because he’s wrong. Characters not knowing something or being wrong doesn’t mean that it breaks canon.
@@InfiniteGreninja exactly, by their logic then yoda broke canon in phantom menace
@@InfiniteGreninja How about a character not existing when the show is supposed to take place. That breaks canon if you ask me. And Ki adi Mundi should not be in the show at all.
To be fair, I couldn't give less of a shit about the acolyte show. I'm just here to hate on disney's star warts.
It didn't break canon whatsoever because they never thought Mae's master was a Sith, only a rogue force user or something else. Also, his age has never been stated in canon.
Meme from Eposide 1:
Newt Gunray:"Milord-Is it [Cannon]?"
Disney as Sidious:"I will make it [cannon]."
I still dont believe (who I am officially calling Darth Molar because of the teeth on his mask) Darth Molar is a Sith. This is the only way to "fix" "The sith have been extinct for over a Millennia" I believe Darth Molar is just using the legends of the Sith to try and bring about justice for something that happened to him. I do believe he was once a Padawan that was trained and left the Jedi Order. If this is the case it fixes Mundi's statements in TPM and makes them factual. I think this is how they are going to handle it.
That's a great name!
I like Smil-O-Ren better, but if we have Talon, Molar is not far fetched 😂
There's currently a theory floating around that Darth Molar is actually Mae and Osha's mother, the head witch of the coven.
This is because the actress who portrays her was credited in the first episode, but she didn't appear on screen and had no voice lines.
Also, you can see that Darth Molar isn't wearing gloves and very clearly has dark skin and pretty small hands.
Mundi’s statement was never meant to be factual. The Sith persisted from Bane all the way to the fall of the Republic.
@@robertwilson8184 It's factual as far as he knows. Him being wrong isn't the same as him lying.
Bro Star Wars cannon has been broken for years now
I personally refuse to consider anything done by Disney in the SWU as canon.
That's not something that you're "personally" doing.
That's just some bullshit you saw online and decided to regurgitate because it makes you feel like part of something.
At least he’s part of something lol. You’re just trying to be a contrarian by defending something that is indefensible
@@bobson3014 Disney bot detected
@@tuckerbamberg7647 So, just liking a show with an overwhelmingly positive response outside of the cesspools of the "fandom" is being a contrarian now?
You people are hilariously yet deeply depressingly pathetic.
@@Chad-jy9uk No just not one of you.
Lucky me.
Nah nah we got it all wrong this new guy is Ki Adi Mundi, the guy in the main films is actually Ki Adi Mundi JR 😅
Honestly, I'd be fine with that. Better then some other lore fixes people have tried🤣
They didnt even bother to research when he was born
Why would they if his date of birth is legends lore?
You mean his LEGENDS story? Jesus Christ the manipulation from you idiots. There’s nothing Lore breaking here. He had no confirmed age in canon. Now he does. Cry me a river, build a bridge and get over it.
Filoni set the precedent and people didn't care when he did it so now all the writers think that they can ignore the lore and get away with it.
@@masteryoghurt2110 because they can't know it's legends lore without research.
@@Rezzanine They did though, because he is present at that time - it was EU material which established this. Good god.
They had a 1000 years to set the High Republic storyline, but no, they chose it to be 100 before Phantom Menace
Just act as if anything disney has released is non-canon. Simple.
Wouldn't be the first time the EU canon was re-written. Look at all the times in the EU they re-wrote the story about how the Death Star plans were stolen. In the 1983 Radio Drama it was stolen in a space battle vs the Empire after Leia and her father were able to find out about the convoy carrying it from Lord Tion. Later it was retconned as one of the missions in X-wing to steal it then transmit it to Leia's ship. Then retconned again with Dark Forces, having Kyle Katarn wage a one man assault on am Imperial strong hold and stealing it. Then in The Force Unleashed Garn Iblis, Bail Organa and Mon Mothma were taken there as prisoners.
Needless to say, the EU canon timeline was all levels of messed up.
I can't wait to see Obi-Wan's appearance in episode 5
Boba Fett is gonna be in the season finale
Omega from Bad Batch will be in the next episode and we find out she’s a lesbian and dances like JoJo Siwa
I think Greedo deserves another chance too. Evil is good and good is evil right? I think he needs a redemption episode too.
Or Kylo Ren's Arc where the storywriter explained he became evil because of the toxic patriachy
At this point, JarJar Binks is better than anything in The Acolyte. And I can't stand him.
Disney doesn't care about logic.
Exactly, which is why it's hilarious to see people try to defend bad storylines. I am not surprised though to be honest. Disney blames "fans" when their shows or movies fail miserably and yet people still seem to watch and defend their trash. It's nothing to me though, I'll continue to watch stuff I enjoy and ignore the stuff I don't. Vote with your wallet as they say.
Or star wars
@@Paul512 Hatred is a form of caring.
It’s not canon why are you so upset
@@Imknowitallyeah that's true. Disney isn't canon
Well, if Rey said fuckit I'm a skywalker now, a random Ki said fuckit I'm adi mundi 😂
True dude, true!
They had me in the part where a kid single handedly burned a stone structure to the ground.
You can't know what minerals that stone is made of. Remember this is not on earth
To be fair, I will honestly be shocked if it turns out that Mae actually burned down the temple all on her own. The setup, so far, heavily implies that the Jedi were up to some shenanigans and I wouldn't be at all surprised if it turned out that they destroyed the coven (intentionally or otherwise).
Disney breaking canon?
That never happened before! That's unheard of!
It's outrageous! It's unfair! How can you be on the show and not be canon?
It's ok "real" star wars fans, this is the timeline where anakin destroyed the death star. So the canon/timeline or whatever shit is still safe, god, i really don't give a shit anymore...
The a rage lifespans for his specie is 100 years for females and 50 years for males, so having him in the acolyte literally would make him a little over twice the average lifespan for a male of his species
“It’s possible that they’re doing something here”
What’s the bet that they’re not? 😂
Another thing to add to the "Acolyte just broke Canon" list.
It’s not canon are you braindead?
They aren't "doing anything", they were just completely ignorant that it contradicted lore because they didn't know or care.
There's no lore concerning his age.
Oh no! They didn’t adhere to a non-canon age for a background character! And let’s all just forget about the dozens of retcons Dave Filoni makes on each project he works on. Well said Eck! 👏
They are going to explain this away by saying THIS Mundy is the REAL one. The one that is "born" in 30 years is a clone.
XDD i wouldn't be surprized its disney afterall
Impostor. A hired actor. Or "it was Lucas' mistake/mistake in prequel's production, it always meant what we are saying now".
That would ironically fit canon. Recall that in Legends his species has a low incidence of males, so they turned to unusual methods.
They will… but they haven’t filmed it yet. They didn’t realize until we pointed it out
Somehow Mundy returned.
This whole show is non canon
It is canon
@@Jo_Mama710 nope. Disney's fan fiction was not created by George Lucas, and is not approved or endorsed by him. It's expensive fan fiction, that's it.
I’ve always taken the stance that whatever I choose as canon is canon. The only things from SW live action that I would consider canon are Andor and Rogue One. Even Mando, which I liked for 2 seasons, changes enough about the canon that I would rather just enjoy it as a spin-off non-canon thing.
Totally agree@@PhoenixLord777
@Jo_Mama710 in your disney star wars mind it is your not a true star wars fan if you didnt read the actual comics
Yep and then they tried to do damage control by changing the info on the website
What did you expect when the cast thinks Anakin blew up the Deathstar?
That's not Ki-Adi Mundi, that's Ki-Adi Mundane
It's his predecessor, Ki-Adi Sundi
I don't think that the writers are that smart, what you give them credit for.
I have an official Star Wars Encyclopedia that was printed 10 years ago that gives his birthdate.
Which means nothing anymore ever since Disney got ownership of SW
@@SOB98 Why do you think I specified the date it was printed? It was after the Disney acquisition.
Probably from Legends
@@GalvatronStudios 10 years ago was 2014. Disney owned Star Wars in 2014. If it was published in 2014, it was canon
@@tk-6967 No, not every Star Wars related content after Disney took over is considered canon. They decided later in the year 2014 that the extended universe isnt going to be canon anymore. So its not canon.
First of all, Retcons happen all the time, George kinda retconned stuff by creating midi-chlorians. Second, I’m pretty sure the story that shows when Ki-Adi Munda was born was non-canon
his age is never confimed in cannon only in legends
Canon was broken roght when Disney bought it..
They've been breaking it. They already said that canon is just a suggestion
Canon is the truth - from a certain point of view
So they're using the same mindset George Lucas had? Where's the problem?
Legends hasn’t been canon for a long time.
No one in this room talked about a "Sith", so... I don't think this breaks canon.
Wait people are taking this show seriously? Imo everything Disney is non-canon and not worth any amount of attention. Let the series burn.
Yes to this comment!
Why would you keep watching this
Somebody has to. We’ve finally learned our lesson about ‘hate watching’, and are giving all our Views to RUclips channels
Because he likes it? Just because you dislike something doesn't mean someone else has to.
@@ssimpson3288 it objectively sucks and you’re wrong.
@@AustinsEditsYou would be Ki adi mundi if you were a star wars character
@AustinsEdits news flash: people are allowed opinions so stop acting like a 4 year old, kid.
0:51 that clone trooper dodging that deflect was just awesome
Didn’t Disney basically say all legends was non-cannon when they bought the franchise?
Woah! Disney breaking canon? Shocker.
Even if you ignore the legends continuity, you've got the issue that the jedi haven't encountered the sith in a millennia. Even if the master is the sith, not mentioning to the jedi council of a dark sider that's this powerful and 2 children conceived by using the force is another issue in itself.
The lore breaking is hilarious and sad.
Yeah an issue in that some Jedi are in ass covering mode.
But the Jedi didn't know they were concived with the force. The witches were so on edge because they wera afraid the jedi would figure out that's the case...were you paying attention? Also they don't know if it's a darksider yet, well now they know but they are currently getting their asses beat
@Sesuaki19 you think the jedi wouldn't investigate who the father is? They barely scrutinised osha and mae. Yet with anakin, it took obi wan dying for him to be accepted but with osha, nope no questions about the father, no concerns about being in a darkside witch cult, no investigation into the darkside witch cult, let osha join despite being old and the attachment to her community and sister.
Where you even watching the show or understand star wars lore. It's bad writing. Someone like osha should have never even been made a jedi.
They are keepers of peace and the witches did nothing to disturb peace. And they did not know they are darkside users either. They only started to suspect something after they saw the mark on mae's head. And something definitly happened that made them keep this a secret, it was very heavily implyed
His age was a Legends thing. I get why some people would not like this, but I personally don’t care
Acolyte broke star wars itself
This is a gift from someone on the inside. Ki-Adi's presence means this isn't cannon & is part of another universe. That's why all the worldbuilding is crap
It kinda feels like we are living in another universe ^^
Are you serious?
As if those ... people would give any fluff about canon, lore or cohesiveness
All of the garments looks like it was designed and made by 1 person.
C'mon guys, it's not that hard. Ki-Adi-Mundi is the guy who trained Anakin to blow up the death star! It all started with a droid attack on the wookies... that's where everything went wrong.
Canon is taking a severe beating these days.
You mean Legends
@@tylernaze8020 Canon, in general. The wider meaning.
Isn't this like the least egregious thing they've done on the show?
A Topps trading card and a CD-Rom from 1999 aren't exactly solid canon sources that are not allowed to be retconned. People are acting like Mundi has a long storied past that is being shattered. He is ultimately an unimportant background character who gets a few lines in.
He also swore and was so sure Count Dooku wasn't behind the attack on Padme. And his steadfast concern about the droid attack on the Wookies lead to Yoda leaving Corusant! Imagine if Yoda was there with Mace. It would have been over for Palpatine. Mundi is a bumbling fool! A really old one, now.
Cereans have no established average lifespan in the new canon. And the show hasn't even even been around long enough to explain if he was actually unaware or played pretend. If it was the latter, it's not out of character for the Jedi Council by the time of the Prequels because they've also covered up the sith during that era too. And Filoni is involved, which is why Plo Koon is there too.
You really think the muppets in charge care? 😂
First mistake was thinking they can count beyond 10 ^_^
As soon as I heard about Filoni and Headland being all chummy I knew this would happen
When your show runners don't care about the source material
Legends are not the source material.
You mean legends. Which isn’t canon. His backstory was under the legends tap. He had no age. Now he does. Get over it.
@@masteryoghurt2110 Oh yeah? How about Thrawn on Rebels and Ahsoka? Or the resurrected Palpatine on Rise of Skywalker? Or even the fallen son of Han Solo and Leia on the Sequels? Or Malacor on Rebels? Or the Rakatan Infinity Empire referred on Andor and Rebels? Or Gillad Palleon on Mandalorian? Or Prince Xizor on some random book? Or Exar Kun, Master Arca and Ulic Qel Droma in Ulic Qel Droma epics? Or Darth Revan, Darth Phobos and Darth Desolous on Rise of Skywalker? Or the Aign Tii on Rise of Skywalker guide? Etc, etc, etc.
If Legends are no source material, then they just plagiarize everything from it! And the worst part: they claimed early that they want to de canonize Legends in order to bring author's "creative freedom".
@thatrandomnoob8611 consoooom the Disney slop. Raise no objections and get excited for next slop.
@@darthlucasfuu Then what's wrong with Ki Adi Mundi?
What do you bet the Sith is gonna be Plagueis so they can turn around and say 'hah, you got mad for no reason!'
I am pretty sure this Smilo-Ren in this show is the mother (who has this horns, the female Darth Maul ) of this twins and she is on a revenge-trip. She learned the Sith-techniques but it's not a Sith. This will be explanation in the show. I just wondering why nobody came up with this idea.
It does mean something. It means the writers have absolutely no respect for pre established Lore at all and wrote whatever willy-nilly garbage they feel like.
Maybe it's his dad or something. Although I seriously doubt the writers put that much thought into it.🙄
Wouldn't that be Ki-Daddy Mundi?
In the credits it was said that it was Ki Adi-Mundi.
@@jirdan4870 slap a Sr. on there, not hard. Actually kind of would be cool, at least to me.
@@JoshDrakePendora Could be since he is one of the few races in the jedi order not bound by celibate.
But I guess that is also no longer canon.
Issue is the whole “there have been no sith” in the prequel trilogy. Imagine thinking that even though you lived though the acolyte? Thats just dumb
I wouldn't judge the show until we find out what happens. Right now, the Jedi believe Mae's master is a fallen Jedi - not a Sith lord. It's possible they never find out or that it's covered up. Ki Adi Mundi may not know of Sol's encounter with the force user or he may be lying in TFM to cover up the fact that the Jedi kept the existence of this force user secret.
@@datguy3581 that sounds like some brain there, you may be right but from patterns seen with Disney star wars writers, i dont have much hope.
Like throwing shit on a wall and hoping whichever sticks - Acolyte in a nutshell
Just a friendly reminder that back in legends instead of the High Republic we had The Old Republic and 100 years ago pre Pbantom Menace we had the Darth Bane trilogy that led to the extinction of the sith and the forming of the rule of two. What was wrong with adapting that into cannon over this?
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Honestly, your channel was doomed the moment Disney bought Star Wars.
They put Ki Andi Muni, but they don't put Yoda? That's shameful... Yoda should show up at least in the final episode of this Season.
"Or just straight up pissed"
He was a war criminal so severe it made the Jedi look like good little boys and girls. Dude treated clones worse then the CIS did their droids. He got gunned down in overwhelming force and he was the only Jedi I was glad to see dead in such a brutal way.
Where the flying fuck is yoda
Surprised they didnt change him to Bi-Adi-Mundi
Haha
STOP GIVING THEM IDEAS!!!!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
This cameo scene mentioned that they shouldn’t inform the High Council. There had to be a long term coverup by Mundi when he mentions in episode 1 how the sith hadn’t been seen in a millennia
I think its the force depending on how attuned you are you can increase your life span
Seriously why would those hacks even care about such little cannon details, even if it was documented. This is possibly the least offensive cannon breaking things they have done.
Now if the acolyte was to be a good show, then, yes, this would be rather disappointing. But as far as it currently goes, I would just add this to the big pile of maaaaaanyyyyyyyy
so fans are mad canon decided to be different than legends? how do you break canon if it wasn’t in the first place? give me a break man
The birth year is iffy but it's something that can easily be retconned, since his name is only in the credits and not mentioned by anyone.
I’m just gonna say it and get crucified- I really didn’t mind this and having one familiar face was nice.
wtf is piccolo doing in Star Wars
*GODZILLA MINUS ONE ONLY COST $15 MILLION TO MAKE.* and not only did it have spectacular special effects, it also has amazing performances and a gut wrenching story. For a tenth of this dumpster fire’s budget
I can't be surprised about star wars going down the shitters; it's been going down the shitters long ago.
Non fans are in charge of many of our childhood franchises.