I love the interviewer, she always asks really great questions so it's like I'm in the room gaining knowledge from industry professionals. God bless film courage.
Listen to your interviews almost daily in the morning before heading out to work. Not only are your questions fantastic, but you let them answer the question without interjecting your pov in the middle of them talking....unless they’re stumbling....which is what a good interviewer does. Anyway, just wanted to say that I love your show and your style. Godspeed!
Thanks for this, the bit at the begining might be the best advice you can give any writer : before going into too much details about your story, and even before writing dialogue, gather some people and bounce ideas in the room. Especially for a tv show you'll have a lot of new ideas and concepts to use
they’re dynamic together is always the best haha and they’re mad good at teaching with their knowledge and wisdom, as well as pairing their differing perspectives in a strange chaotic harmony. cussin great stuff. and you, Karen, are always a delight and bring so much value to each interview, beyond the right questions you ask, which really helps us listeners. always glad when it’s an interview you are an active participant in. seeing just how quickly collaboration can evolve and refine and better an idea is very helpful for getting out of the solely solitary writing mode. thank you all!
These two men, these, fighting men… love and care about eachother. It took me a a few watches to think about it. Originally their bickering rubbed me wrong but it’s so obvious they’d do anything for each in the end. Its nice
Very fascinating. I am not interested in pitching a TV shows, but still a lot of great insight on storytelling. Especially when working with a team on developing projects.
Me too. Wow. Does anyone know if any pitching can be done on the East Coast? Does one have to be in L.A.? I've structured my life so I can move there in a day. Thanks everyone!
Very useful information! Thank you! I have been developing a show for three years and it is nice to see that I have been on the right track...for the most part. A couple of networks were interested, but pulled out for different reasons. It's a solid premise, I shot a professional sizzle reel, and the pilot is solid, although I keep tweaking it. And, I agree - comedy is MUCH tougher to write than drama, but it is also very rewarding when you nail that moment!
I'm so confused in regard to the sizzle reel. I did a year of fundraising/crowdfunding and shot the sizzle, but was told it was a waste of time and money. The people you pitch to DON'T want your vision of the actors, etc.
@@ninaangelamckissockauthor2345 Yes, I have heard that, too. I have also heard that some executives will take you more seriously when you have put a decent amount of money into a project. The real litmus test as to whether they are interested is when they throw different ideas at the show. If you say "sounds good", or "I never thought of that", then they will be much more apt to back your show.
@@ninaangelamckissockauthor2345 Also, when I shot the sizzle reel, I used Union actors and a professional crew so it looked like it could be a real show. I also made it painfully clear to everyone that they were only hired for this ONE reel - not the whole show. Executives usually understand that, but it is good to mention in the pitch!
I like their interaction 😂😂😂 are they friends? Imagine being taught by these two in class? I’m a burgeoning screenwriter and I have been learning a lot from this channel. Thank youu for all the work you do❤
The example at 8:28 is something they used almost to a tee in a joke in the first few episodes of Avatar The Last Airbender. When they’re in one of the air temples, Aang and Sokka both see a Lemur. Aang screams “Lemur!” At the fact that a cute piece of the culture he knew was in front of him and was excited to see it, and Sokka starts salivating and says “Dinner” with absolutely no understanding for the significance of that animal, only caring about his stomach 😭
Loved these two and how they interact. I'm inspired and scared to death to pitch. But I'm almost ready! I need to find a licensed agent. Suggestions, anyone? Thank you! Nina
@@filmcourage I used to be a brash “idealistic” artist who thought that passionately/rigidly defending my writing would not only work - but displayed self belief. This video and others really helped me understand that the note givers are ultimately your bosses, and no matter how big you are (and I’m small fry) you always have someone to answer to to. Even studio heads have to answer to shareholders. When one of the gentleman mentioned that Spielberg has to take notes, that really hit home. I’ll never be on the level so it sobered me up quickly.
Thank you for sharing! This is a topic that has come up more in some recent interviews. We agree that this is one of those lessons that can easily make or break a career.
@@Burgalo2001i had to look them up. Yes, you are correct that their credits are old, no problem. But i am listening for not what they have written, which is useless because i can watch any sitcom and see what was written and get the drafts of the show to see the differences between drafts at the wga library, but rather the thought process and steps of "generating" ideas and story progression. All sitcoms steal plots from one another. So no need for plot generation, its situation comedy and situations repeat themselves. But the character responses to those situations are what needs to be "generated." And their dialogue has be unique from other sitcoms. Raymond will not sound the same as Fraiser watching an opera because they have different personalities. Sitcoms are really personality studies, not plot studies. And hence why sitcoms have titular named shows. The beat writers steal plots, but create fresh personalities, and the thought process to generate personality-based reactions is what the writers room is all about. And their thought process is still valid because in spite of having few credits. Besides, they are PhDs and are professors. They still know what they are doing. Ian Gurvetz wrote Becker and nkw teaches at Chapman and he has the same process, yet he is teaching now. I can their process and apply it to new characters, and steal the plots. This is the procedure and it has worked for the sitcom world flr the past 70 years. Its a landlocked format. It is what it is.
Hi I'm pitching a show that's easy as hell,and offshoot of the present show "farmer wants a wife". Cassidy Jo is gorgeous, funny, outgoing and Lil aggressive. Sadly Alan is too laid back for her. I'd like to see her like Bachelorette with 10 city guys and 10 country guys all trying to win her love. City guys would take her on dates 3 in New York, 3 in philly(LAs weather isn't great right now) and 3 in Atlanta. Then the 9 country guys would to 3 In nashville, 3in Austin and 3 in Charlotte then Break it down to the top 2 final dates and then the winner. It would be GREAT!
Hi Alejandro, Thanks for watching! This was a brainstorming session about a made-up TV show. We presented the basic idea and then Peter and Jeffrey added their details to it. Thanks again. FC
what if the wealthy brother promised his dad on his death bed to look out for his kid brother. the dad made the kids work hard and one was a burn out the other exceled. the foundation is a drug rehab made for the one brother for him to have a job and propose but he never asked his brother what he wanted to do, he gave him something only he wanted not something his brother wanted. at the end of the show they shift to the brothers secret dream of marine biology research
the classic dynamic of the two old pros who cant stand to listen to eachother wax on because theyve heard eachother say everything they say. people like that get so easily annoyed and analytical, they get themselves into a place where nothings ever original, everythings an eye roller, and anything that is good is still just meh. because of the competitive pretentious nature of the industry of writing any form of copy and how all the people in it have learned to interact best, remaining alphas of their craft. theyve completely lost the spark they had in early hungry years, where things were amazing and new, now that theyve experienced all of that world and have no where else to grow. theres so much more of life to enjoy and take from and make more with but these guys have gobbled up everything in the rook and now just stay in the room comparing everything to everything in the room. get out of the room that is your hardened judgemental spirit, enter places where you start a novice rather than stay begrudgingly in places you have nothing new to see in.
yea these goats are just as attached to their first ideas as anyone. i wish theyd have a discussion with eachother about speaking over eachother and ignoring eachother during conversations where they both want to speak. trust the other will let you get your idea out before they get too far with what their saying. think slow.
I love the interviewer, she always asks really great questions so it's like I'm in the room gaining knowledge from industry professionals. God bless film courage.
Thank you! :)
agreed
Listen to your interviews almost daily in the morning before heading out to work. Not only are your questions fantastic, but you let them answer the question without interjecting your pov in the middle of them talking....unless they’re stumbling....which is what a good interviewer does. Anyway, just wanted to say that I love your show and your style. Godspeed!
Thanks for this, the bit at the begining might be the best advice you can give any writer : before going into too much details about your story, and even before writing dialogue, gather some people and bounce ideas in the room. Especially for a tv show you'll have a lot of new ideas and concepts to use
they’re dynamic together is always the best haha and they’re mad good at teaching with their knowledge and wisdom, as well as pairing their differing perspectives in a strange chaotic harmony. cussin great stuff.
and you, Karen, are always a delight and bring so much value to each interview, beyond the right questions you ask, which really helps us listeners. always glad when it’s an interview you are an active participant in.
seeing just how quickly collaboration can evolve and refine and better an idea is very helpful for getting out of the solely solitary writing mode.
thank you all!
Meeting with Peter and Jeffrey was a lot of fun! Great to see you enjoying this and getting good value out of it.
6:27 - Unless you have characters who are very, very different and very, very specific, you don't have conflict.
These two men, these, fighting men… love and care about eachother. It took me a a few watches to think about it. Originally their bickering rubbed me wrong but it’s so obvious they’d do anything for each in the end. Its nice
Some insightful tips, especially the "go with the flow" when an exec is engaged and adding different elements. Thanks for this one.
Glad you found this one! Thanks for watching.
Very fascinating. I am not interested in pitching a TV shows, but still a lot of great insight on storytelling. Especially when working with a team on developing projects.
This may be my favorite Film Courage video. I feel like I was invited into an actual writers room.
This is a good one. Glad you found it.
Me too. Wow. Does anyone know if any pitching can be done on the East Coast? Does one have to be in L.A.? I've structured my life so I can move there in a day. Thanks everyone!
Very useful conversation, thanks!
This was extremely valuable - and entertaining. I learned something.
Nice, glad you found this one Mark!
YES!!! He had me at #Frasier! One of my favorite sitcoms!
Very useful information! Thank you! I have been developing a show for three years and it is nice to see that I have been on the right track...for the most part. A couple of networks were interested, but pulled out for different reasons. It's a solid premise, I shot a professional sizzle reel, and the pilot is solid, although I keep tweaking it.
And, I agree - comedy is MUCH tougher to write than drama, but it is also very rewarding when you nail that moment!
I'm so confused in regard to the sizzle reel. I did a year of fundraising/crowdfunding and shot the sizzle, but was told it was a waste of time and money. The people you pitch to DON'T want your vision of the actors, etc.
@@ninaangelamckissockauthor2345 Yes, I have heard that, too. I have also heard that some executives will take you more seriously when you have put a decent amount of money into a project.
The real litmus test as to whether they are interested is when they throw different ideas at the show. If you say "sounds good", or "I never thought of that", then they will be much more apt to back your show.
@@ninaangelamckissockauthor2345 Also, when I shot the sizzle reel, I used Union actors and a professional crew so it looked like it could be a real show. I also made it painfully clear to everyone that they were only hired for this ONE reel - not the whole show.
Executives usually understand that, but it is good to mention in the pitch!
I like their interaction 😂😂😂 are they friends? Imagine being taught by these two in class? I’m a burgeoning screenwriter and I have been learning a lot from this channel. Thank youu for all the work you do❤
These guys are great! Friends and writing partners. We hope you continue to find helpful information here!
Their book shelf looks interesting. I wonder what they are reading and how they approach it (writing) with their craft.
Good analysis. Thank you for posting
Thanks Mary Jane, glad this one found you.
This was incredible. I'd LOVE to see more interviews where you just do this same thing with other professionals like this.
Thanks for the feedback!
Same! Love the prompts!
I like the show she pitched. Reminds me of Dharma and Greg (hopefully a bit more subtle).
These guys know their stuff!
Great interview, as always ! Thank Karen for what you are doing for us !
Thanks! Great education listening in on a series development
Thank you.
Love this channel ,I always wondered how I as a unprofessional pitch my tv show ideas to people who can pick them up
Good insight. Thank you.
Frasier is awesome! I loved when the brothers sniped at each other.
the thumbnail is what ive always wanted to sit in on
I could listen to these 2 guys all day,
Very informative & entertaining
Not a whole day, but here is the full 2 and a half hour interview - ruclips.net/video/XkqueJePFuw/видео.html
Me too. I'll listen to this over and over. Lots of notes.
lol, the interview ends with "I was afraid to look at you" and that caught me off guards
My takeaway would be 'You need to be open for collaboration'. Great video
The example at 8:28 is something they used almost to a tee in a joke in the first few episodes of Avatar The Last Airbender. When they’re in one of the air temples, Aang and Sokka both see a Lemur. Aang screams “Lemur!” At the fact that a cute piece of the culture he knew was in front of him and was excited to see it, and Sokka starts salivating and says “Dinner” with absolutely no understanding for the significance of that animal, only caring about his stomach 😭
So helpful...thanks.
Loved these two and how they interact. I'm inspired and scared to death to pitch. But I'm almost ready! I need to find a licensed agent. Suggestions, anyone? Thank you! Nina
this interview is gold
Nice find!
stoyrtellers in a jam session...very very insightful...
Good technique and strategy
I love that she’s legit pitching her script 🤣
She's not a screenwriter and she made that story up just for the fun of this segment.
Thank you gentlemen
Writing for tv is "like walking the streets of New York."
Well I'm in luck
One of the best.....
With hindsight, some of the nuggets here literally saved my career
Please explain
@@filmcourage I used to be a brash “idealistic” artist who thought that passionately/rigidly defending my writing would not only work - but displayed self belief. This video and others really helped me understand that the note givers are ultimately your bosses, and no matter how big you are (and I’m small fry) you always have someone to answer to to. Even studio heads have to answer to shareholders. When one of the gentleman mentioned that Spielberg has to take notes, that really hit home. I’ll never be on the level so it sobered me up quickly.
Thank you for sharing! This is a topic that has come up more in some recent interviews. We agree that this is one of those lessons that can easily make or break a career.
not gonna lie i totally got hooked by the title
We enjoyed this one. Hope you found some value in the video as well!
I wish y’all made videos like this again
This is GREAT!!!!! Thank you soooooooo MUCH!!!
I haven't watched this yet, so I hope I'll enjoy this.
Update: interesting as! I like humans
What did these guys write?
The bible
loved this. So informative.
Great interview
The interviewer and the interviewees were great, I'm just mad that bootlicking is prominent in the industry. Sometimes it works though.
Great job. Thank you.
My word, this is insightful!
Glad you found this one!
300k a week is my take away from this
Can someone recommend "a room" for average people?
Now I know how bad scripts are made. Pure formalism and no inner drive to tell the story how it wants to tell it self.
How a story "wants to tell itself"? What?
What do u want from people who have nothing in IMDB? No offences but those guys have zero success in this realm
these guys are on some real trite sitcom vibes
@BillieAkman exactly. Writers are mini gods, they tell the story they want to tell.
@@Burgalo2001i had to look them up. Yes, you are correct that their credits are old, no problem. But i am listening for not what they have written, which is useless because i can watch any sitcom and see what was written and get the drafts of the show to see the differences between drafts at the wga library, but rather the thought process and steps of "generating" ideas and story progression. All sitcoms steal plots from one another. So no need for plot generation, its situation comedy and situations repeat themselves. But the character responses to those situations are what needs to be "generated." And their dialogue has be unique from other sitcoms. Raymond will not sound the same as Fraiser watching an opera because they have different personalities. Sitcoms are really personality studies, not plot studies. And hence why sitcoms have titular named shows. The beat writers steal plots, but create fresh personalities, and the thought process to generate personality-based reactions is what the writers room is all about. And their thought process is still valid because in spite of having few credits. Besides, they are PhDs and are professors. They still know what they are doing. Ian Gurvetz wrote Becker and nkw teaches at Chapman and he has the same process, yet he is teaching now. I can their process and apply it to new characters, and steal the plots. This is the procedure and it has worked for the sitcom world flr the past 70 years. Its a landlocked format. It is what it is.
Hi I'm pitching a show that's easy as hell,and offshoot of the present show "farmer wants a wife". Cassidy Jo is gorgeous, funny, outgoing and Lil aggressive. Sadly Alan is too laid back for her. I'd like to see her like Bachelorette with 10 city guys and 10 country guys all trying to win her love. City guys would take her on dates 3 in New York, 3 in philly(LAs weather isn't great right now) and 3 in Atlanta. Then the 9 country guys would to 3 In nashville, 3in Austin and 3 in Charlotte then Break it down to the top 2 final dates and then the winner. It would be GREAT!
This should have been 3 hours longer.
True
Another awesome episode...
Non profit foundation Vs Scheming sibling. Thats all they hang their hats on.
What is the name of show they are talking about?
Hi Alejandro, Thanks for watching! This was a brainstorming session about a made-up TV show. We presented the basic idea and then Peter and Jeffrey added their details to it.
Thanks again.
FC
Damn i love the guy on the right
this was such a great video hahaha
I have a great idea for a show. A man gets in a wreck with a man who has no insurance. The man is bequeathed to become the man’s butler.
Is this info still valid after 5 years?
what if the wealthy brother promised his dad on his death bed to look out for his kid brother. the dad made the kids work hard and one was a burn out the other exceled. the foundation is a drug rehab made for the one brother for him to have a job and propose but he never asked his brother what he wanted to do, he gave him something only he wanted not something his brother wanted. at the end of the show they shift to the brothers secret dream of marine biology research
that tv show idea blows.
Send us your pitch.
Film Courage do you really take pitch’s?
👍 👍
😅 did he just use my country as the home of the "blind orphan"?
They kept going after the camera left and wrote the pilot for Succession
46:35
first i will watch this 46 min long video, then i'll use the next 14 min
Two minute pitch! Zzzz exited time watch the whole video though
WRITE HOW TO GET A JOB ON A SHOW!!
the classic dynamic of the two old pros who cant stand to listen to eachother wax on because theyve heard eachother say everything they say. people like that get so easily annoyed and analytical, they get themselves into a place where nothings ever original, everythings an eye roller, and anything that is good is still just meh. because of the competitive pretentious nature of the industry of writing any form of copy and how all the people in it have learned to interact best, remaining alphas of their craft. theyve completely lost the spark they had in early hungry years, where things were amazing and new, now that theyve experienced all of that world and have no where else to grow. theres so much more of life to enjoy and take from and make more with but these guys have gobbled up everything in the rook and now just stay in the room comparing everything to everything in the room. get out of the room that is your hardened judgemental spirit, enter places where you start a novice rather than stay begrudgingly in places you have nothing new to see in.
yea these goats are just as attached to their first ideas as anyone. i wish theyd have a discussion with eachother about speaking over eachother and ignoring eachother during conversations where they both want to speak. trust the other will let you get your idea out before they get too far with what their saying. think slow.
all in all this was really helpful. its all about how to give your story "legs". truly a series writing lesson
LMAO 😂 #JonCryer
It’s BUDDHIST, not “Taoist”…
Did she pitch "Two and a Half Men"?