Excellent detailed explanation, thank you, including what version existed prior to this helmet. After a severe crash this past weekend, I am buying (10 yr. Old helmet; no MIPS) this most advanced DH helmet to increase the safety of my brain 🧠 even though I typically ride single track trails (there’s always unexpected dips and downhill portions anyway). 👍🏼
I hope you're well. Head injuries are no joke. Do you intend on using it with the chin bar? If not, there are other good options that are a little less expensive. - Dan P.
@@FanatikBikeCo thank you for your reply. Fortunately after hitting a fallen tree (4 " Dia.) that was laying at about 15 degrees and approx. 3.5 ft. (1 m) off of the ground and all across the trail, I did have an immediate impact and blown back off the bike but came out with no evidenced brain issue, just some severe bleeding above my right eye (stitches) and a good face scrape. Yes, I plan to west my chin bar on single track now or anything questionable (I don’t care what others think; who knows when you might land face forward and flat against your cheek / chin area). Especially since I’m now riding my newer Norco Fluid VLT-A1 E-bike (speed can climb quickly).
@@nhlcfl7733 Oof, sorry to hear it. If you plan on wearing the the chinbar all the time, here's a few options that will be a bit more breathable: - www.fanatikbike.com/products/fox-proframe-rs-helmet?variant=40224583548974 -- similar technology to the Super DH, with the separate inner shell - www.fanatikbike.com/products/fox-proframe-helmet?variant=15451021508654 -- the less fancy version of one above. Less expensive - www.fanatikbike.com/products/smith-mainline-mips-helmet?variant=40199256768558 -- uses an interesting material called Koroyd to slow impacts down.
NismoZTuner so far so good. I've done most of my riding with the chin removed and it's pretty good. When riding full face with chin attached it's good too. In my opinion the helmet looks way better as a full face than a trail helmet. Trail helmet looks a little big compared to other dedicated trail helmets. The camera attachment they include is pretty stable and attaches securely.
MTN Mike Bikes i just bought mine a while ago... i guess i got it cheap since i shopped around and no one would take their promo codes Paid $239 for mine / 2nd day com. shipping
MTN Mike Bikes thanks for speaking on the camera mount. I want to see it to know if they finally comes With under the visor mounts yet? Also, how is the weight of the helmet? Want to step up to the added protection, but don't want to feel I need a neck harness after.. When I'm wearing it? lol
Thanks Marcin. I saw the ELEVEN trademarked features on the box and yea, definitely did not want to go there. I do think this is the best (and although I hope never to test it, maybe the safest) trail bike helmet on the market right now, which is why I was excited to do the review. Thanks for watching, Dan at Fanatik
Would you recommend the super dh as the first full face I'm gonna get? Cause I also think that it's really nice to have a 2in1 helmet. Gonna go visit some bike parks in Sommer and since its DH certificate I was thinking of getting the super dh. Just wanted to ask what's your opinion. Also if you keep the new 2019 super dh in mind. As an alternative I've also found the Bell Full 9 Fusion but its 'just' a fullface. Thanks in advance
Hi Annika, If you don't have the budget for two separate helmets, or if you will sometimes be pedaling your bike but wanting a full face for the descent, this is the helmet I'd suggest. I'm on my second one after a nasty crash took the first one out - I'm glad I was wearing it though, I would have been in much worse shape if I'd be using a regular half shell. Best, Dan at Fanatik
I have the DH and my kids have the 3r. We find they fit great as a full face helmet, but the fit is different without the chin bar. I ride with another guy who removes the chin bar multiple times during rides and everything is perfect. Did you get the helmet? How is it working.
Thanks David, Only changes currently are the color. Our buyer is on vaca right now, it looks like the '18 year model hasn't been dropped in price, but I made this link which will automatically add a discount code to drop it to $209.50 from the current $300 if we have the size that you need. www.fanatikbike.com/discount/2018SuperDH?redirect=%2Fproducts%2Fbell-super-dh-mips-2018 You can also just use the code 2018SuperDH if you don't go through that link. Let us know if you have any Qs! Best, Dan at Fanatik
Nice review - how is the sizing compared to the 3R? I have a medium 3R i want to upgrade but my head just fits in at the largest adjustment is the DH the same size?
I bought the same size DH that I had with the 3R. It fit fine. I stuck with Bell since I have had fit issues in the past. I usually wear a Giro Chronicle Helmet when not at a park.
Hi I would like to know if the certification on a full face helmet is a tougher certification than this bell dh. Does this bell just complies with a basic certification for dh. In other words do I get the same protection as a full face DH? Thanks and keep the reviews coming.
Hey fanatik!!!! I have a spot on 22” head (basically 56cm) . I’m 5 10” and really slender, with a slender face... Tried on a buddies size small gyro helmet and it seemed to fit really well, I’ve looked at bells sizing and think I should prolly go with a small in the super dh as well? I have a medium bell segment bmx helmet, and I had to install the thicker padding to get it as snug as I preferred. Got any advice?
Sorry for the late reply! You are sort of in between size medium and large. The small would have you leaving the ratchet mostly open, whereas the medium would have you snugging it down almost all the way. I think that if the medium Bell Segment was fairly loose, maybe the small Super DH would suit you well. You can find it here: bit.ly/ShopBellSuperDH Cheers, Dan at Fanatik
Hi mate Great review, here I am 4 years later and in the market for a dh convertible helmet. This bell super DH still looks a great buy and they do 2021/2022 models. My friend is selling his 2019 gold/silver one like in this video and he's never crashed in it etc. I'm wondering if you still think this is a good purchase, a few years on? I don't really want to spend silly money like some of the others on the market. Thank you 👍🏻
Honestly I'd never buy a used helmet. You just never know what has truly happened in it. Can't put a price on your head's safety! if you are in the market for a convertible full face the Bell Super DH is a great option and we do have them in stock! www.fanatikbike.com/products/bell-super-dh-spherical -Rich
Nice review and cool shirt! Since I don't really need the break away since I just want a Full Face lid for resort riding DH would you suggest the Giro Disciple with MIPS over this? I found the Giro for about $80 cheaper but this one does look nice! Also, thanks for any other suggestions.
Hi! Good question. This helmet does meet the same safety certifications as the Disiple MIPS, and actually has a newer version of MIPS that in my mind is more refined. Helmet technology has been ramping up recently. If you had asked me this question between the first Bell Super and the Disciple, I would have said the Disciple for sure. At this point, all the testing these companies have done says that the Super DH will do just as good a job at protecting you, despite it weighing quite a bit less. You could argue that it's reduced weight actually goes in it's favor in terms of protection. I'd be inclined to believe the results of those tests and safety certs. Hopefully that helps answer your question! Dan at Fanatik
Thanks for the info. Decided to go with a 2017 Troy Lee Designs D3 Composite since I found it for under $200. It doesn't have the MIPS I wanted but the protection still looks good and it's supposed to be very comfortable with great ventilation!
Howdy, You can look at it a few ways: As a half shell, the Switchblade has more protection, since it wraps down to cover your ears. As a full face, they both have full DH certification, so theoretically, same there. In my mind, the spherical MIPS that the Super DH has really makes sense, and I like how the helmet fits. It also has more ventilation than the Switchblade, so you might take that into consideration if you live in an area that gets hot. Hopefully that helps, let me know if you have any more Qs!
Sure! Styling is definitely on the mountain side of things, but the safety is all there. I use mine for the little dirt jumping I do. Cheers, Dan at Fanatik
if you wear both super 3R and DH as half shell, are they just the same when it comes to level of protection ? Do they only differ when they are in full face ?
No, the DH does in fact have higher safety ratings, chin bar or no. I personally also find it to be more comfortable, although that totally depends on the person. Best, Dan at Fanatik
@@FanatikBikeCo Does the added comfort of the DH outweigh the (presumably-you are welcome to comment on this, too) better ventilation of the 3r? Thanks :)
I just received mine today (also a medium like yours) and I'm a bit concerned on the fit. Are the chin bar pads supposed to squeeze your cheeks? I already replaced the attached pads with the spares (seems to me they are thinner) but they still squeeze my cheeks. Is this normal?
The other pads are thinner, yep. They are supposed to be snug on your cheeks, it's hard to say simply by that description as to whether it's too much though. Is it painful? Does it cause discomfort? If not, then I'd say it's normal and you're good to go. - Dan at Fanatik
When would you recommend a dedicated DH helmet over the Super DH? I don't see myself riding much DH or very technical/large features at a bike park but the idea of one helmet that seems very safe with the FF feature would be nice.
I've heard the argument that this helmet, despite all the same safety certifications, is less safe than a full face. I can't speak to the validity of that, but I'd guess that's wrong. With all the testing that these companies do, I imagine that in real world situations they probably are equally as protective. Especially since you would only ever be using a full face on rare occasions, my personal opinion is that this would be a great option for you. Best, Dan at Fanatik
@@FanatikBikeCo Are these more of a one crash helmet design? I went over a berm with my 3r and hit hard and worry if the helmet is still safe. I bought the DH just in case but I still have my 3r.
Is the sizing identical for the Super 3r and this? As when I tried the 3r I'm on the M size but when I ordered M for this Super DH. I find it a little bit big, just wondering if I have opted for Small instead of M.
Hi Manuel, I run a medium and do have to tighten it down a good bit before it's snug. I'd just look at the size chart to see if the small would be good. www.fanatikbike.com/products/bell-super-dh-mips-2018. You can submit a return/exchange request here: www.fanatikbike.com/tools/returns Cheers, Dan at Fanatik
Thanks Dan, I actually ordered S so I can compare them together but it's not available at the moment. It won't be available until Oct. 1st week according to the UK dealer. Arrgggghhh. Thanks again😊
And just to add up, my head circumference is between 55 to 55cm which falls into the larger side of S and Smaller side of M. It would be nice if You can try on the Small and tell me your thoughts about how it fit please. Thanks again Dan.
I stayed with the same size when I went from the 3r to the DH and I noticed a bit of difference in the fit. To be honest I have not ridden without the chin bar on the DH
Here is my input: the Proframe and Strage utilize the standard MIPS layer, whereas the SuperDH does take it a step further with the rotational MIPS that is part of the helmets internal design, plus it has the dual-density EPP and EPS (the other two may have that...not sure). Add the versatility of the removal chin bar, and I feel the Bell wins (for me anyway...I'm about to order one and was considering the exact three that you are).
The Super DH has higher safety ratings, and the Air R is lighter. If you're looking for something a little comfier on long pedals, I'd suggest the Air, if you're looking for something that is better suited for faster, more aggressive riding, I'd suggest the DH. Does that help answer your question? - Dan at Fanatik
@@FanatikBikeCo Damn Thanks, i didnt even think you would reply. Yes it was helpful, i wached some other reviews on the Air R, and people were saying it was better because it is lighter and more ventelated and has only 2 clips for the removable chinbar. I personaly dont think i will risk my health for 200 grams and the easier to remove chin bar, i have ridden with DH helmet (bell sanction) and it was around 1 kilo, im saving 200 grams and i even think it will be strange to ride the Air R because it will be almost 400 grams lighter and the Air R doesnt even have cheek pads. All i wanted to say is that i would risk my health for 200 grams. I ordered the Super DH yesterday but i have to wait 4-5 weeks, i will write when it comes again, only thing that i dont like is that is squeeky (i dont know if that is true tho) P.S. excuse my English please😅
Hey! I've owned two of these now, still use it. I suppose you mean in between the two layers? Not something I've ever noticed, but maybe I'm used to it? I've actually not heard that complaint before from anyone, I have a few friends who run it as well. Best, Dan at Fanatik
Hi Dan, I mostly do enduro with my Bell Super 2r but I ocasionally also go for a uplift assisted ride or bike park with my enduro bike and my old Kali DH helmet. I wonder if I should go for this helmet or a POC coron air for bike park and the super 3r for weekend rides.... what do you think?
Hey Miguel, If you didn't want to spend the money on two helmets, the Super DH does have full downhill safety certifications. That being said, I do personally also own a 6D downhill helmet. Maybe it's just a placebo, but a full DH helmet seems safer (the 6D in particular). The Super DH does seem safer than the Super 3R, for the reasons I talked about in this video. I'd maybe start with that, and then decide if you want to invest in a dedicated full face as well. Thanks for watching! Dan at Fanatik
Hy Dan. Thanks for your feedback. I agree with you and I'll maintain 2 helmets. For now I'll change my uplift assisted oriented helmet. What do you think of POC Coron Air for this purpose?
Did you notice a big difference in riding temperature between the helmets? How much warmer were you in the DH vs. the super 3? I see Bell claiming to be trying to keep this one breathable, how successful were they?
@@Jorge-rz9cv I have both, and didn't notice a difference in temp. I am a "Heavy sweater" LOL, but my tab doesn't stick well to the helmet. I ride it in Big Bear so it isn't overly hot.
@cookepaule Hey Paule, those were a limitied run and I don't have any more left. Here is our latest run of soft goods: www.fanatikbike.com/collections/apparel?_=pf&pf_v_brand=Fanatik
Hi. I'm looking to buy this helmet. My head size is 55.5 cm. The small size is 52 - 56 cm. Medium start from 55 - 59 cm. Should I go to a ''small'' ? I hate to have a too big helmet. thanks
Hi! The ratcheting mechanism will accommodate all those sizes, but if you know you prefer the look and fit of a smaller shell over a bigger one, sounds like small is the way to go! Also, we do have free returns on unused protection and apparel, so if you get it and it isn't what you are hoping for you can snag the proper one without problem. Let me know if you have any more Qs! Cheers, Dan at Fanatik
There's a number of different certifications that helmet companies can test their helmets to. For example, ASTM's F1952-15 certification is described as the following: "This specification covers performance requirements for helmets used by downhill mountain bicycle riders. Studies have shown higher risk to the head and face for this sport as compared to recreational street riding; hence, this specification requires greater impact protection and provides performance criteria for chin bars on full-face helmets, but does not require full-face helmets. Retention system tests shall be performed before impact testing. The helmet can be impacted anywhere on or above the test line with the curbstone anvil in any horizontal orientation. The ambient test helmet shall be subjected to the chin bar impact test." (www.astm.org/Standards/F1952.htm for example)
According to sizing Im supposed to get a M, but Ive always mostly been a L ... Are they big in sizing? I worry it will be to tight on my cheeks.. Asking cus i have to order online.. Ive got a TSG skate helmet in freakin Xl..
Yep, I was surprised to end up in a medium as well. My head measures just under 60cm, so I do think a medium is the way to go for you as well. If not, we do free returns/exchanges on unused apparel/protection. Best, Dan at Fanatik
Hi Tyler, At this point, no you can't purchase this one without the bar as you can with the previous Super. Whether they will offer it like that down the line remains to be seen. For similar protective features without the chinbar check out 6D's helmets: www.fanatikbike.com/products/6d-atb-1t-evo-helmet-2017 Best regards, and thanks for watching! Dan at Fanatik
Ventilaion with the chin bar off is great, I never find myself getting too hot in it. There is not enough venitation in the bar itself to make it comfortable for long distances pedaling up hill, but it's easy to remove. Cheers, Dan at Fanatik
Hey Bryan, It does seem like that might be the case. With the full DH certification allowing you to have that confidence in the bike park and being able to remove the chin bar for climbs it really is the only helmet you would need for enduro/dh applications. I don't think I would choose this helmet if the majority of my riding was more xc/trail oriented. In that case I think I would get something a bit lighter. If your a more aggressive rider I'd say this is your go to though! Best Regards, Brian at Fanatik
this helmet is nice but the feature about sweat does not work properly, if you use goggles they end up absorbing all that and you end with the whole foam wet around your face
Hi Ethan, Good question! The Super DH has the new MIPS Spherical protection system where as the Switchblade has the original MIPS System, that is going to be one of the bigger differences. The Super DH also has a more traditional half shell design when the chin bar is removed. The Switchblade has the ear and cheek protection, where the helmet comes down a little bit further on your head. Over all the Super DH is going to have a bit more protection and will be a bit lighter and more breathable when broken down into a half shell. Hope that helps, Brian at Fanatik
"The Switchblade has the ear and cheek protection, where the helmet comes down a little bit further on your head. Over all the Super DH is going to have a bit more protection" - is this not a contradiction?
Hi Abhay, the Super DH is $300. You can find it here: www.fanatikbike.com/products/bell-super-dh-mips-2019?variant=8483740057646 Cheers, Dan at Fanatik
It has what Bell calls Goggle Guide, which just refers to the shape of the helmet, which sort of pushes your goggles to a comfortable spot. It does not have a clip on the back of the helmet, but that is something not typically used on DH helmets since one ends up removing their goggles so frequently. Let me know if you have any more Qs. Cheers, Dan at Fanatik
Not too bad, it's ~500g (depending on size) as a half-shell and ~900g as a full face. That's a bit more than most dedicated, high end half-shells, and a bit less than most dedicated full faces.
$300. I just had a terrible crash in it and I am confident my jaw would be broken had I not been wearing it. While I did get a bad concussion, the symptoms have been minimal. I immediately have purchased another one. The most important thing on your body is your brain. Can't do much without one.www.fanatikbike.com/products/bell-super-dh-mips-2018 Cheers, Dan at Fanatik
Fanatik Bike Co. hey, if you had a concussion take a long time off, don’t risk it it’s not worth it, I had to take 5 years off after a massive concussion. A helmet won’t help much with concussion no matter what the manufacturers say. Maybe on the margin.
This is your brain we're talking about. One might argue that it is the most worth while thing to protect of them all. I personally think so. Thanks for watching! Dan at Fanatik
Doesn’t work with 100% speedcraft sunglasses. Outside mips layer jiggles when riding and the fit is uncomfortable if you don’t have an oval shaped dome. 2/10
Just bought this. Best fitting helmet for my narrow oval head i ever owned!
Heck yea happy to hear it!
Dan at Fanatik
You give the best reviews on the planet, thank you!
Thank you, we really appreciate that!
Hey I just got one of these after watching your review and they are pound for pound the safest and best priced helmet on the planet.
Glad to hear it! I really like them a lot.
Cheers,
Dan at Fanatik
Excellent detailed explanation, thank you, including what version existed prior to this helmet. After a severe crash this past weekend, I am buying (10 yr. Old helmet; no MIPS) this most advanced DH helmet to increase the safety of my brain 🧠 even though I typically ride single track trails (there’s always unexpected dips and downhill portions anyway). 👍🏼
I hope you're well. Head injuries are no joke. Do you intend on using it with the chin bar? If not, there are other good options that are a little less expensive.
- Dan P.
@@FanatikBikeCo thank you for your reply. Fortunately after hitting a fallen tree (4 " Dia.) that was laying at about 15 degrees and approx. 3.5 ft. (1 m) off of the ground and all across the trail, I did have an immediate impact and blown back off the bike but came out with no evidenced brain issue, just some severe bleeding above my right eye (stitches) and a good face scrape. Yes, I plan to west my chin bar on single track now or anything questionable (I don’t care what others think; who knows when you might land face forward and flat against your cheek / chin area). Especially since I’m now riding my newer Norco Fluid VLT-A1 E-bike (speed can climb quickly).
@@nhlcfl7733 Oof, sorry to hear it. If you plan on wearing the the chinbar all the time, here's a few options that will be a bit more breathable:
- www.fanatikbike.com/products/fox-proframe-rs-helmet?variant=40224583548974
-- similar technology to the Super DH, with the separate inner shell
- www.fanatikbike.com/products/fox-proframe-helmet?variant=15451021508654
-- the less fancy version of one above. Less expensive
- www.fanatikbike.com/products/smith-mainline-mips-helmet?variant=40199256768558
-- uses an interesting material called Koroyd to slow impacts down.
I have one of these being delivered tomorrow. Can't wait to check it out.
how did you like it?
NismoZTuner so far so good. I've done most of my riding with the chin removed and it's pretty good. When riding full face with chin attached it's good too. In my opinion the helmet looks way better as a full face than a trail helmet. Trail helmet looks a little big compared to other dedicated trail helmets. The camera attachment they include is pretty stable and attaches securely.
MTN Mike Bikes i just bought mine a while ago... i guess i got it cheap since i shopped around and no one would take their promo codes
Paid $239 for mine / 2nd day com. shipping
Price in US is almost the same here in UK but different currency😂🙄😢
MTN Mike Bikes thanks for speaking on the camera mount. I want to see it to know if they finally comes With under the visor mounts yet?
Also, how is the weight of the helmet?
Want to step up to the added protection, but don't want to feel I need a neck harness after.. When I'm wearing it? lol
I'm wearing a Fanatic hoody, that I got at Goodwill in my thumbnail. 🤙
Dude, the dreds are gone! You look so different (in a good way) :D Great review guys!
😂
Good video! Because of this in-depth review of the helmet, I’m going to buy it
Hey Jarques, thanks for the feedback! You'll dig it, it's saved my noggin.
Best,
Dan at Fanatik
Wow, very cool full/no face helmet. Lotsa ventilation & gr8 epp mips protection. Thx 4 sharing on the intrernet. Keep riding w/ safety & protection.
Great review with a lot of useful info. Thank you!
Very nice review, not soaked up by the marketing BS. Thanks!
Thanks Marcin. I saw the ELEVEN trademarked features on the box and yea, definitely did not want to go there. I do think this is the best (and although I hope never to test it, maybe the safest) trail bike helmet on the market right now, which is why I was excited to do the review.
Thanks for watching,
Dan at Fanatik
Loving mine! Great video 🤘🤘
Would you recommend the super dh as the first full face I'm gonna get? Cause I also think that it's really nice to have a 2in1 helmet. Gonna go visit some bike parks in Sommer and since its DH certificate I was thinking of getting the super dh. Just wanted to ask what's your opinion. Also if you keep the new 2019 super dh in mind. As an alternative I've also found the Bell Full 9 Fusion but its 'just' a fullface. Thanks in advance
Hi Annika,
If you don't have the budget for two separate helmets, or if you will sometimes be pedaling your bike but wanting a full face for the descent, this is the helmet I'd suggest. I'm on my second one after a nasty crash took the first one out - I'm glad I was wearing it though, I would have been in much worse shape if I'd be using a regular half shell.
Best,
Dan at Fanatik
I have the DH and my kids have the 3r. We find they fit great as a full face helmet, but the fit is different without the chin bar. I ride with another guy who removes the chin bar multiple times during rides and everything is perfect. Did you get the helmet? How is it working.
Great review thanks Dan. Any changes between 2018/19 DH?
Thanks David,
Only changes currently are the color. Our buyer is on vaca right now, it looks like the '18 year model hasn't been dropped in price, but I made this link which will automatically add a discount code to drop it to $209.50 from the current $300 if we have the size that you need.
www.fanatikbike.com/discount/2018SuperDH?redirect=%2Fproducts%2Fbell-super-dh-mips-2018
You can also just use the code 2018SuperDH if you don't go through that link.
Let us know if you have any Qs!
Best,
Dan at Fanatik
Thanks Dan
Great review! Do you know if the super dh is neck brace compatible?
Hi! Good question. Yes, it is neck brace compatible!
What neck brace do you use? I am in the market for upgrading my protection
Nice review - how is the sizing compared to the 3R? I have a medium 3R i want to upgrade but my head just fits in at the largest adjustment is the DH the same size?
I bought the same size DH that I had with the 3R. It fit fine. I stuck with Bell since I have had fit issues in the past. I usually wear a Giro Chronicle Helmet when not at a park.
Hi I would like to know if the certification on a full face helmet is a tougher certification than this bell dh. Does this bell just complies with a basic certification for dh. In other words do I get the same protection as a full face DH? Thanks and keep the reviews coming.
Hey fanatik!!!! I have a spot on 22” head (basically 56cm) . I’m 5 10” and really slender, with a slender face... Tried on a buddies size small gyro helmet and it seemed to fit really well, I’ve looked at bells sizing and think I should prolly go with a small in the super dh as well? I have a medium bell segment bmx helmet, and I had to install the thicker padding to get it as snug as I preferred. Got any advice?
Sorry for the late reply! You are sort of in between size medium and large. The small would have you leaving the ratchet mostly open, whereas the medium would have you snugging it down almost all the way. I think that if the medium Bell Segment was fairly loose, maybe the small Super DH would suit you well. You can find it here: bit.ly/ShopBellSuperDH
Cheers,
Dan at Fanatik
I guess this is the next helmet that I will buy.
Hi mate
Great review, here I am 4 years later and in the market for a dh convertible helmet. This bell super DH still looks a great buy and they do 2021/2022 models. My friend is selling his 2019 gold/silver one like in this video and he's never crashed in it etc.
I'm wondering if you still think this is a good purchase, a few years on?
I don't really want to spend silly money like some of the others on the market.
Thank you 👍🏻
Honestly I'd never buy a used helmet. You just never know what has truly happened in it. Can't put a price on your head's safety! if you are in the market for a convertible full face the Bell Super DH is a great option and we do have them in stock!
www.fanatikbike.com/products/bell-super-dh-spherical
-Rich
Guys have to start trying them on so we can get a little idea of the look when fitted👌
Will do!
@@FanatikBikeCo nice btw I am not able to find a bell super dh flex vs Met parachute mcr anywhere if you need a new model vs review
Nice review and cool shirt! Since I don't really need the break away since I just want a Full Face lid for resort riding DH would you suggest the Giro Disciple with MIPS over this? I found the Giro for about $80 cheaper but this one does look nice! Also, thanks for any other suggestions.
Hi!
Good question.
This helmet does meet the same safety certifications as the Disiple MIPS, and actually has a newer version of MIPS that in my mind is more refined.
Helmet technology has been ramping up recently. If you had asked me this question between the first Bell Super and the Disciple, I would have said the Disciple for sure. At this point, all the testing these companies have done says that the Super DH will do just as good a job at protecting you, despite it weighing quite a bit less. You could argue that it's reduced weight actually goes in it's favor in terms of protection. I'd be inclined to believe the results of those tests and safety certs.
Hopefully that helps answer your question!
Dan at Fanatik
Thanks for the info. Decided to go with a 2017 Troy Lee Designs D3 Composite since I found it for under $200. It doesn't have the MIPS I wanted but the protection still looks good and it's supposed to be very comfortable with great ventilation!
Great vid. Bell Super DH or Giro Switchblade? Don’t care about looks, only interested in protection.
Howdy,
You can look at it a few ways:
As a half shell, the Switchblade has more protection, since it wraps down to cover your ears.
As a full face, they both have full DH certification, so theoretically, same there.
In my mind, the spherical MIPS that the Super DH has really makes sense, and I like how the helmet fits. It also has more ventilation than the Switchblade, so you might take that into consideration if you live in an area that gets hot.
Hopefully that helps, let me know if you have any more Qs!
would you recommend this for dirt jumping
Sure! Styling is definitely on the mountain side of things, but the safety is all there. I use mine for the little dirt jumping I do.
Cheers,
Dan at Fanatik
is the visor longer on the dh helmet than the super 3r?
and does it look wierd with just half helmet mode?
if you wear both super 3R and DH as half shell, are they just the same when it comes to level of protection ?
Do they only differ when they are in full face ?
No, the DH does in fact have higher safety ratings, chin bar or no. I personally also find it to be more comfortable, although that totally depends on the person.
Best,
Dan at Fanatik
@@FanatikBikeCo Does the added comfort of the DH outweigh the (presumably-you are welcome to comment on this, too) better ventilation of the 3r? Thanks :)
And the new Bell Super DH 2020 with Flex Spherical, you've seen? what do you think?
The helmet hasn't changed! It's the same as this one. Are you thinking of the Super Air R?
Hey guys, are the highlighta more a neon green or yellow on the black helmet? Cheers
How's the sizing? I fall right in between the M (55-59cm) and L (58-62cm) and my head measures right 59cm. So I am undecided which one to pick.
Large will likely fit you best. We do offer free returns on helmets if you get it, try it on and it just doesn't feel right.
Do you place goggle straps over the helmet on inside?
Sorry, I don't fully follow, can you clarify? The googles would go on outside of the helmet.
Goggles outside
I just received mine today (also a medium like yours) and I'm a bit concerned on the fit. Are the chin bar pads supposed to squeeze your cheeks? I already replaced the attached pads with the spares (seems to me they are thinner) but they still squeeze my cheeks. Is this normal?
The other pads are thinner, yep. They are supposed to be snug on your cheeks, it's hard to say simply by that description as to whether it's too much though. Is it painful? Does it cause discomfort? If not, then I'd say it's normal and you're good to go.
- Dan at Fanatik
When would you recommend a dedicated DH helmet over the Super DH? I don't see myself riding much DH or very technical/large features at a bike park but the idea of one helmet that seems very safe with the FF feature would be nice.
I've heard the argument that this helmet, despite all the same safety certifications, is less safe than a full face. I can't speak to the validity of that, but I'd guess that's wrong. With all the testing that these companies do, I imagine that in real world situations they probably are equally as protective.
Especially since you would only ever be using a full face on rare occasions, my personal opinion is that this would be a great option for you.
Best,
Dan at Fanatik
@@FanatikBikeCo Are these more of a one crash helmet design? I went over a berm with my 3r and hit hard and worry if the helmet is still safe. I bought the DH just in case but I still have my 3r.
Is the sizing identical for the Super 3r and this? As when I tried the 3r I'm on the M size but when I ordered M for this Super DH. I find it a little bit big, just wondering if I have opted for Small instead of M.
Hi Manuel, I run a medium and do have to tighten it down a good bit before it's snug. I'd just look at the size chart to see if the small would be good. www.fanatikbike.com/products/bell-super-dh-mips-2018.
You can submit a return/exchange request here: www.fanatikbike.com/tools/returns
Cheers,
Dan at Fanatik
Thanks Dan, I actually ordered S so I can compare them together but it's not available at the moment. It won't be available until Oct. 1st week according to the UK dealer. Arrgggghhh. Thanks again😊
And just to add up, my head circumference is between 55 to 55cm which falls into the larger side of S and Smaller side of M. It would be nice if You can try on the Small and tell me your thoughts about how it fit please. Thanks again Dan.
I stayed with the same size when I went from the 3r to the DH and I noticed a bit of difference in the fit. To be honest I have not ridden without the chin bar on the DH
@@MTBMOR , in which way, larger or smaller?
Is It noisy as some people tell? And does the mips spherical affect in some ways it's functionality when wearing glasses?
Not at all in my experience, and I've owned two!
Dan at Fanatik
So question. Which would you recommend:
Bell super DH
Fox Proframe
TLD Stage.
Here is my input: the Proframe and Strage utilize the standard MIPS layer, whereas the SuperDH does take it a step further with the rotational MIPS that is part of the helmets internal design, plus it has the dual-density EPP and EPS (the other two may have that...not sure). Add the versatility of the removal chin bar, and I feel the Bell wins (for me anyway...I'm about to order one and was considering the exact three that you are).
Wich helmet do yall think its better - bell super air r or bell super dh
The Super DH has higher safety ratings, and the Air R is lighter. If you're looking for something a little comfier on long pedals, I'd suggest the Air, if you're looking for something that is better suited for faster, more aggressive riding, I'd suggest the DH.
Does that help answer your question?
- Dan at Fanatik
@@FanatikBikeCo Damn Thanks, i didnt even think you would reply. Yes it was helpful, i wached some other reviews on the Air R, and people were saying it was better because it is lighter and more ventelated and has only 2 clips for the removable chinbar. I personaly dont think i will risk my health for 200 grams and the easier to remove chin bar, i have ridden with DH helmet (bell sanction) and it was around 1 kilo, im saving 200 grams and i even think it will be strange to ride the Air R because it will be almost 400 grams lighter and the Air R doesnt even have cheek pads. All i wanted to say is that i would risk my health for 200 grams. I ordered the Super DH yesterday but i have to wait 4-5 weeks, i will write when it comes again, only thing that i dont like is that is squeeky (i dont know if that is true tho)
P.S. excuse my English please😅
@@FanatikBikeCo Can you say if it is really that squeeky because people were annoyed (i dont really care but i just want to know)
@@prod.o3one Not in my experience, no. I've had two of them. Glad we could help!
Love from Oslo norway
Good day... Can the visor be removed? Thanks...
Yes it can!
Best,
Dan at Fanatik
Whats been your experience with the foam on foam rubbing within the helmet? Ive heard it's pretty bad
Hey! I've owned two of these now, still use it. I suppose you mean in between the two layers? Not something I've ever noticed, but maybe I'm used to it? I've actually not heard that complaint before from anyone, I have a few friends who run it as well.
Best,
Dan at Fanatik
could u please tell me what way the spacers on the visor go?, took it apart today and now am a bit confused on how it goes bakc😂
In between the helmet and the visor!
Hi, my head circumference is 58cm and between the M and L size. Which one should I choose? I can't test it first because I'm in another country.
Mine is 58.5cm, I have a medium that I like the fit of.
Cheers, Dan at Fanatik
@@FanatikBikeCo Thank you for your reply, Dan.
So it seems a medium and a large, both will fit me.
Happy new year!
Can you remove the top plastic thing ! I don’t know how is called !
The camera mount? Yes, you can, it has a spring loaded clip that keeps it in place!
Best,
Dan at Fanatik
Hi Dan, I mostly do enduro with my Bell Super 2r but I ocasionally also go for a uplift assisted ride or bike park with my enduro bike and my old Kali DH helmet. I wonder if I should go for this helmet or a POC coron air for bike park and the super 3r for weekend rides.... what do you think?
Hey Miguel,
If you didn't want to spend the money on two helmets, the Super DH does have full downhill safety certifications. That being said, I do personally also own a 6D downhill helmet. Maybe it's just a placebo, but a full DH helmet seems safer (the 6D in particular). The Super DH does seem safer than the Super 3R, for the reasons I talked about in this video. I'd maybe start with that, and then decide if you want to invest in a dedicated full face as well.
Thanks for watching!
Dan at Fanatik
Hy Dan. Thanks for your feedback. I agree with you and I'll maintain 2 helmets. For now I'll change my uplift assisted oriented helmet. What do you think of POC Coron Air for this purpose?
how does this compare in weight to the old Super 3 and other comparable helmets?
The Super DH is coming in at about 100g heavier than the Super 3 and about 100g less than the Giro Switchblade.
-Brian at Fanatik
Did you notice a big difference in riding temperature between the helmets? How much warmer were you in the DH vs. the super 3? I see Bell claiming to be trying to keep this one breathable, how successful were they?
@@Jorge-rz9cv I have both, and didn't notice a difference in temp. I am a "Heavy sweater" LOL, but my tab doesn't stick well to the helmet. I ride it in Big Bear so it isn't overly hot.
How does the chin bar differ from the 3R that makes it DH approved?
The entire helmet differs pretty substantially, the chinbar and its attachment system being only part of the difference.
What’s the speed ratings of the helmet
where did you get the T-Shirt ??? :-)
Hey Peter, right here: www.fanatikbike.com/products/fanatik-bike-co-priorities-straight-tee
@cookepaule Hey Paule, those were a limitied run and I don't have any more left. Here is our latest run of soft goods:
www.fanatikbike.com/collections/apparel?_=pf&pf_v_brand=Fanatik
Is this helmet alright for long xc rides, obviously without the chinguard
Agreed!
Hi. I'm looking to buy this helmet. My head size is 55.5 cm. The small size is 52 - 56 cm. Medium start from 55 - 59 cm. Should I go to a ''small'' ? I hate to have a too big helmet. thanks
Hi!
The ratcheting mechanism will accommodate all those sizes, but if you know you prefer the look and fit of a smaller shell over a bigger one, sounds like small is the way to go!
Also, we do have free returns on unused protection and apparel, so if you get it and it isn't what you are hoping for you can snag the proper one without problem.
Let me know if you have any more Qs!
Cheers,
Dan at Fanatik
@@FanatikBikeCo Thanks Dan. Any problem to ship to Canada ?
@@franciscote Sorry for late reply, that'll ship to Canado no problem! www.fanatikbike.com/products/bell-super-dh-mips-2019?variant=8483740057646
Hi I just wanted to know what does a dh rating mean?
There's a number of different certifications that helmet companies can test their helmets to. For example, ASTM's F1952-15 certification is described as the following:
"This specification covers performance requirements for helmets used by downhill mountain bicycle riders. Studies have shown higher risk to the head and face for this sport as compared to recreational street riding; hence, this specification requires greater impact protection and provides performance criteria for chin bars on full-face helmets, but does not require full-face helmets. Retention system tests shall be performed before impact testing. The helmet can be impacted anywhere on or above the test line with the curbstone anvil in any horizontal orientation. The ambient test helmet shall be subjected to the chin bar impact test."
(www.astm.org/Standards/F1952.htm for example)
According to sizing Im supposed to get a M, but Ive always mostly been a L ... Are they big in sizing? I worry it will be to tight on my cheeks.. Asking cus i have to order online.. Ive got a TSG skate helmet in freakin Xl..
57 head by the way..
Yep, I was surprised to end up in a medium as well. My head measures just under 60cm, so I do think a medium is the way to go for you as well. If not, we do free returns/exchanges on unused apparel/protection.
Best,
Dan at Fanatik
Wow nice video!!
How does this compare to the LeaTt DBX 3.0 ENDURO?
Thanks Dan
Can you buy this helmet without the chin bar
Hi Tyler,
At this point, no you can't purchase this one without the bar as you can with the previous Super. Whether they will offer it like that down the line remains to be seen. For similar protective features without the chinbar check out 6D's helmets:
www.fanatikbike.com/products/6d-atb-1t-evo-helmet-2017
Best regards, and thanks for watching!
Dan at Fanatik
How is the ventilation vs a 2R/3R?
Ventilaion with the chin bar off is great, I never find myself getting too hot in it. There is not enough venitation in the bar itself to make it comfortable for long distances pedaling up hill, but it's easy to remove.
Cheers,
Dan at Fanatik
Fanatik Bike Co. Awesome so would you say it is better worse or the same vs a Bell Super 3R?
Thanks
Is this the do all helmet in your opinion
Hey Bryan,
It does seem like that might be the case. With the full DH certification allowing you to have that confidence in the bike park and being able to remove the chin bar for climbs it really is the only helmet you would need for enduro/dh applications. I don't think I would choose this helmet if the majority of my riding was more xc/trail oriented. In that case I think I would get something a bit lighter. If your a more aggressive rider I'd say this is your go to though!
Best Regards,
Brian at Fanatik
this helmet is nice but the feature about sweat does not work properly, if you use goggles they end up absorbing all that and you end with the whole foam wet around your face
Huh. I haven't experienced that, but I don't sweat very much. Good to know, thanks for the feedback, and thanks for watching!
Dan at Fanatik
How does this compare to the giro switchblade?
Hi Ethan,
Good question! The Super DH has the new MIPS Spherical protection system where as the Switchblade has the original MIPS System, that is going to be one of the bigger differences. The Super DH also has a more traditional half shell design when the chin bar is removed. The Switchblade has the ear and cheek protection, where the helmet comes down a little bit further on your head. Over all the Super DH is going to have a bit more protection and will be a bit lighter and more breathable when broken down into a half shell.
Hope that helps,
Brian at Fanatik
"The Switchblade has the ear and cheek protection, where the helmet comes down a little bit further on your head. Over all the Super DH is going to have a bit more protection" - is this not a contradiction?
How do you remove the visor
The pieces that hold the visor on screw into the helmet. You can use your fingers or a 5mm allen to unscrew them.
How much it cost´s ?
Hi Abhay, the Super DH is $300. You can find it here: www.fanatikbike.com/products/bell-super-dh-mips-2019?variant=8483740057646
Cheers,
Dan at Fanatik
As I'm an Indian,can I order from here?
@@avicinematics692 You can, although the free returns won't apply :/
@@FanatikBikeCo thanks
does it have something to attach goggles
It has what Bell calls Goggle Guide, which just refers to the shape of the helmet, which sort of pushes your goggles to a comfortable spot. It does not have a clip on the back of the helmet, but that is something not typically used on DH helmets since one ends up removing their goggles so frequently.
Let me know if you have any more Qs. Cheers, Dan at Fanatik
is it heavy ?
Not too bad, it's ~500g (depending on size) as a half-shell and ~900g as a full face. That's a bit more than most dedicated, high end half-shells, and a bit less than most dedicated full faces.
How much is it
$300. I just had a terrible crash in it and I am confident my jaw would be broken had I not been wearing it. While I did get a bad concussion, the symptoms have been minimal. I immediately have purchased another one. The most important thing on your body is your brain. Can't do much without one.www.fanatikbike.com/products/bell-super-dh-mips-2018
Cheers,
Dan at Fanatik
Fanatik Bike Co. hey, if you had a concussion take a long time off, don’t risk it it’s not worth it, I had to take 5 years off after a massive concussion. A helmet won’t help much with concussion no matter what the manufacturers say. Maybe on the margin.
what about the girl switchblade isn't that dh certified
nice job Dan. BTW, you're allowed a second haircut now that you've de-dreaded.
Is it worth it really though
This is your brain we're talking about. One might argue that it is the most worth while thing to protect of them all. I personally think so.
Thanks for watching!
Dan at Fanatik
Doesn’t work with 100% speedcraft sunglasses. Outside mips layer jiggles when riding and the fit is uncomfortable if you don’t have an oval shaped dome. 2/10
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Heck yea! You'll love it!
Affordable