Did The Archbishop of Canterbury Bring On His Own Downfall?
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- Опубликовано: 23 июл 2024
- Did the Archbishop of Canterbury bring on his own downfall by 'saying different things to different audiences' or is he being misunderstood in the way that he is leading the Church of England and the Anglican Communion?
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A dangerous man relying on niceness to hide his genuinely destructive goals.❤
The Word says you can't please man and God and that friendship with the 'world' is enmity with God. We so need to be earnestly praying for the Church leaders at this time that God would give them a spirit of revelation.
If anyone is in _any_ doubt as to where Welby personally stands on all these issues, look at his people he has employed as his staff, the bishops he has appointed, and the powers he has aggregated to the bishops at the expense of parish churches.
I remember the hope that Tony Blair's election generated - and then saw that he relied on Alastair Campbell and Peter Mandelson and realised he was a either weak or fraud.
He is surrounded by masculine looking women . That alone is very worrying. But how he fawned over Meghan Markle makes me smh.😵💫
Rot in hell, welby!!
I thought it was the Crown who appoints Bishops on the advice of the Prime Minister ?
@@dominicmay6015 used to be. For about 15 years it's been the C of E itself who appoint their own bishops
The Uganda Martyrs got burnt alive while singing praises to the Lord. It was a ruthless process. And here the Archbishop fears mere MPs
Sad that happens ,they will be with their beloved now .🙏🙏🙏
The Ugandian martyrs are the people I le that know what Romams 1 says about homosexuality. Impeach the Archbishop of Canterbury immediately.
We quit the Church of England immediately after the February 2023 Synod outcome. We are Orthodox now and my family and I have no wish ever to come back to the 'Church' of England ever again. As for me and my house, we will follow Jesus Christ.
Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy upon me, a sinner, Amen.
Jesus said nohing about homosexuality.
@@DJS11811 Correct. He never endorsed it.
@@DJS11811Jesus said marriage was between a man and a woman.
@@DJS11811 The Church emerged in a social context of sexual licence and taught sexual conservatism. Sex only in marriage between a man and woman with an openness to procreation or alternatively celibacy. This was in keeping with Christ's teachings. Christ was more conservative on sexual issues than the Pharasee movement. See His teachings on divorce, celibacy and lust. Sorry to say but you are just wrong on this issue of what Jesus taught. The early Church and Jesus Christ had a very clear stance against sexual liberation. That is because we have believed from antiquity that sexual liberation is cruelty, expliotation, brokenness and pain masquerading as kindness.
You may not agree with these teachings but they are the teachings of the faith we have received.
@@charleshill2121 homosexuality is sin and no gay will ever enter the kingdom of God ! The law gives a death sentence if such things , Paul says to do such things results in a reprobate mind
There is nothing in Scripture which calls us to walk in unity with those who offer a different gospel. “8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed.
9 As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed.” (Galatians 1:8, ESV)
It is just a blessing.
Contradiction to gods grace, contradiction to God is love, contradiction to love your neighbour and that will fulfill the whole law!
What's everyone complaining about? The head of the Anglican organisation is simply being a good Protestant. Every fanciful doctrinal conclusion is arrived at under the practice of Bible As Final Authority. Nothing is out of bounds. Thank you Martin Luther
Yes. We should bring ourselves up to the Word not bring the Word down to suit the culture.
Brilliant!!
Try telling that to someone who has no attraction to the opposite sex.
Research and evidence shows that the word does not condemn same sex. I won't argue that out with you but do the research and you will find that out for your self. The gospel is inclusion not exclusion.
@Antony Baker it's OK to be attracted to the same sex
@@salkashoura4928 Huh? All of chapter one of Romans speaks against same-sex activities. It is the same throughout the New Testament. In Revelation same-sex practitioners are told they will not enter the Kingdom of God. You do the homework. You do the research.
It is sad to see the decline decay and fall of the dear Church of England. I am so sad and ashamed at what my church is doing.
Why does it bother you so much?
The CofE may be YOUR church but it no longer seems to consider itself the 'Bride of Christ' as it no longer attempts to follow 'the Word'! John 1:14 - "And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us,"
Because the people allowed themselves to listen to nonsense in the churches instead of the gospel being preached.listening to wolves in sheep’s clothing brings a nation to its knees.
"Jesus is the same yesterday and today and forever". Take heart.
@Selah Yes, a remnant of Christ's Church WILL remain in the UK and stand on 'The Word' but heretical denominations WILL fall away.
The problem is that truth is dying in the water, righteousness is a stranger. Lies are a necklace and faithfulness abandoned - God have mercy
Jesus would never have bodyguards like poops nor was He scared to be Martyr. These men are phony feminine goofballs. Catholics get poor the become rich!
A necklace that will turn into an iron collar.
Left my Anglican church and now go to my local Baptist church.
What Anglican Church was it Steve ? Are they teaching homosexuality is not a sin ? Do the Baptists believe in baptismal regeneration by immersion only ?
isn't really much better
@@robmarshall956 Baptists are credo-baptist. Rightly.
Just did exactly that two months ago! Never been happier.
Unfortunately the Baptist Union is at present deciding whether to allow same sex marriage for ministers.
“We are a communion of churches not a single church”?! 🤦♂️
Whoever said that clearly fails to understand that God is NOT a polygamist. The ekklesia is the Body of Christ [singular] not ‘The bodies of Christ’ [plural]; the Bride of Christ [singular] not ‘the brides of Christ’ [plural]?! 🤦♂️
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Absolutely and there's only one bishop and He is the bishop of our souls... Jesus!
You bemoan the slogan "we are a communion of churches". But perhaps your own words holds a lesson for Protestantism at large, because the slogan "there are many churches" is also the slogan of Protestantism. It was coined in an attempt to ignore the fact Sola Scriptura results in doctrinal confusion and continual division. Anglicanism simply bears the same fruits of Sola Scriptura as the rest of Protestantism.
The trouble with the C/E it tries to appease its congregation through the morals of society in its day instead of looking to the word and living by that.
but the congregations don't want this
It's not the congregations that want this it's the bishops who are playing a power game appeasing secular powers acting as if God must tolerate their duplicity
I'm part of the CofE congregation and do not agree with Justin Welby about blessing same sex marriage. I think if congregations were allowed to vote on it you'd find a very large percentage who feel the same way. I'm not homophobic either. I know + love a few who are in same sex relationships. It doesn't mean I agree with the lifestyle. I can't predict the outcome but God wants a pure bride and judgement begins at the house of God. Holy Spirit, have mercy on us all and have your way.
@@marcokite I don't believe they do either, which is why I believe a vote would give us a voice. They make decisions for us but on this I believe they are very wrong.
A full Archbishop of Canterbury fears MPs!!!!. What about the 45 Uganda Martyrs who got burnt alive because of Christianity??
He should be listening to the Holy Spirit and not Politicians, just follow the teachings of Our Lord Jesus. We pray that he repents of his blasphemy and receives forgiveness 🙏
What blasphemy? Neither politicians nor theologians are competent to make decisions about the norms of human sexual differences! If you would only spend more time practicing loving your neighbours, then you would not have to make “mountains out of molehills!”
DO YOUR HOMEWORK! CHECK THE SCIENCE! The Bible is NOT a source of information about the human body!
Go reread Matthew 25: 40-45, PLEASE!!!
@@valeriebreathet741 we are talking sodomy. A man can sodomise a woman. The wisdom of the ancients outweighs the current world view. This is just the beginning. Stonewall will not stop here. Blessing paedophilia is their ultimate aim. Child marriage. We are heading to Sodom and Gomorrah. Can’t you see the sexualisation of our children. I feel very sorry for Gay men because they genuinely love one another but the Church cannot bless their Union unless they agree to remain celibate. It remains between them and God and does not compromise the Church. Sadly I think we are heading to a one World religion and isn’t isn’t Christian.
@Valerie Breathet The Word of God is clear throughout, though! That is our guideline on which we must base all else ❤🙏
What's everyone complaining about? The head of the Anglican organisation is simply being a good Protestant. Every fanciful doctrinal conclusion is arrived at under the practice of Bible As Final Authority. Nothing is out of bounds. Thank you Martin Luther
Just stating historical fact.The practice of Bible As Final Authority can be used to support any fanciful doctrine. Homosexuality, divorce, Faith-Alone, Bible Alone, The Eucharist as a symbol, Abortion etc etc. Nothing is out of bounds. You would realise the Laberth Conference in 1930 approved contraception ofter 400 years of holding that the Bible taught against it. You see, the practice of Bible As Final Authority is the problem as it results in hundreds of versions of "truth" and division.
The archbishop must speak the truth and not lie
Remember in his past he was ex Goldman Sachs banker.
@@joshuaking2171 I don't know about that; Welby worked for eleven years in the oil industry, five of them for the French oil company Elf Aquitaine based in Paris. In 1984 he became treasurer of the oil exploration group Enterprise Oil plc in London, where he was mainly concerned with West African and North Sea oil projects.
Just stating historical fact.The practice of Bible As Final Authority can be used to support any fanciful doctrine. Homosexuality, divorce, Faith-Alone, Bible Alone, The Eucharist as a symbol, Abortion etc etc. Nothing is out of bounds. You would realise the Laberth Conference in 1930 approved contraception ofter 400 years of holding that the Bible taught against it. You see, the practice of Bible As Final Authority is the problem as it results in hundreds of versions of "truth" and division.
@@bigd5090 “Within the walls they produce oil; They tread wine presses but thirst.”
@davidsprouse151 Yes, the wicked prosper but the CofE Anglicans let a wolf in sheep's clothing precide over them having broken communion with the Global Anglican Communion and still do nothing! The greater evil in this is apathy and leading the lost astray through shear religious synod "disagree well" rubbish! RIP CofE!
6:54 not only did Welby vote for same sex blessings, but he appointed numerous bishops whom he knew to be reliably Woke. He orchestrated (either directly or indirectly) the synod to be composed of Wokies who would vote his way.
Had Welby himself voted against SSUs, it would have been little more than a fig leaf of respectability at any rate
What do you mean by wokies?
Jesus would never have bodyguards like poops nor was He scared to be Martyr. These men are phony feminine goofballs. Catholics get poor the become rich!
@@TheGagamonster21 the Woke. Progressives. People with rainbow flags and pronouns in their bios
Antony, What Alberto means by "wokies" is anyone who dares to disagree with his reactionary, Unchristian bigotry.
@@frankdsouza2425 👨🏽
I left the C of E because of all this woke nonsense. I now attend an Elim church.
🙄 truly 'from the sublime to the ridiculous!'
Let’s be clear - you left the C of E, because you’re the kind of person who thinks your beliefs are more important than facilitating happiness and ending the suffering of those who are different to you.
I left the C of E because of all this woke nonsense. I now a Catholic, thanks be to God
@@GodfreyMann There is no end to suffering within sinful lifestyles! What's worse, in eternity separated from God, those individuals will hate woke lukewarm Christians far more than they do right now since their inaction in NOT explaining the truth about the wages of sin is like neon lighting a road to hell! The woke and spiritually dead CofE Bishops (other than approximately 5 who still follow the Bible and honour God) should be ashamed! Maybe they'll be in hell too since Christians will be known by their fruit and there's nothing but rot and pomposity left in the House of Bishops now! We are all sinners but we should ALL acknowledge it and REPENT and that includes people that act on homosexual or heterosexual lusts outside of one man and one woman marriage and it should also include CofE leaders when they reject the Bible!
@@GodfreyMann Another ridiculous statement.
I am fed up with this focus on the apostate leader of the apostate CoE. He has shown time and again he does not read his Bible, does not preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ and has sold out to the world on moral issues. It is a graphic example of the blind leading the blind. Sadly they all will fall into the ditch as Jesus described in Luke 6.
More like the lake of fire
There's no shame in being out of your depth as Justin Welby seems to be on this issue. Maybe he'd be better employed elsewhere.
You prefer ++York or +London... The whole thing is creaking.
Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind.... Romans12:2.
The Anglican Church has made it its core business to be conformed by the world, right from the beginning. Just stating historical fact.The practice of Bible As Final Authority can be used to support any fanciful doctrine. Homosexuality, divorce, Faith-Alone, Bible Alone, The Eucharist as a symbol, Abortion etc etc. Nothing is out of bounds. You would realise the Lamberth Conference in 1930 approved contraception ofter 400 years of holding that the Bible taught against it. You see, the practice of Bible As Final Authority is the problem as it results in hundreds of versions of "truth" and division.
Leading or Lying? Lying.
The church must guide God's people to follow the true teachings of faith, guide and rule the faithful to obey divine laws. The church can only submit to God, not to the will of the flesh of man.
Just stating historical fact.The practice of Bible As Final Authority can be used to support any fanciful doctrine. Homosexuality, divorce, Faith-Alone, Bible Alone, The Eucharist as a symbol, Abortion etc etc. Nothing is out of bounds. You would realise the Laberth Conference in 1930 approved contraception ofter 400 years of holding that the Bible taught against it. You see, the practice of Bible As Final Authority is the problem as it results in hundreds of versions of "truth" and division.
Sorry, but who says that the majority of 'grass roots' Anglicans wanted this? I only got asked for an opinion AFTER the vote in Synod.
Sad but true. Vast majority of my church had no idea and trusted the bishops to act with integrity and follow the bible. They are shocked. Strike the shepherd and the sheep will scatter... But this is the shepherd striking the sheep.
@@mikecrees9715 Well said!
It's a yougov poll from a tiny sample 🙄🙄🙄 lack of sample size ≈diminishing reliability.
It's a survey of self identifying Anglicans🙄🙄🙄 so no basis in fact or measurable behaviour.
Which means
A) it is dubious whether it is in actual fact a survey of Anglicans.
B) It risks selection bias impacting results.
2) It's all online wich is a limiting demographic as some people are not technically able and others lack access. Again potentially biasing results.
3) It's applicant based. Now they do draw from a larger panel in an attempt to mitigate this but it still has problems.
The sample is to someone degree still self selecting another posible bias factor. (Who apart from political activists would agree to fill in government surveys?) Certainly political activists would have a strong motivation. Also LGBTQ activistisam is very active area amongst political activistisam currently.
4) Church members attitudes could have been ascertained in a far more effective way. Why not survey church attendees directly via parish churches? For some reason no one thought this was a good idea at hm gov. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
So yes take it with big pinch of salt mate.
they certainly don't
@@mikecrees9715 It's been a 'slow fade' up to this point but the church resembling the Vicar of Dibley for the best part of 30 years was a big clue things were heading south!
Strangely, when the Archbishop speaks of being railroaded by Parliament and the feminist establishment, I believe him. It is not up to parliament to force doctrinal changes on the church. The church should never be led by the state, rather the church must lead the state.
Why do you think feminism attacked the church, that patriarchy, first in the long march through institutions?
Justin Welby is obviously pulled in two opposite directions. I would expect that this will involve both family members and best friends (not because I know for sure but because this is the experience we all share). However even before he took up office he publicly voiced his own uncertainty as to the rights and wrongs of the issue of sexuality. He appeared not to have arrived at a coherent (faithful?) theological understanding before he launched himself into the job; given the fight that was looming, that was a very serious error.
His actions since have been consistent in ratcheting the Church of England in the revisionist direction. He's done this conspicuously in terms of the appointment of people to positions of influence - for example appointing a "married" homosexual as his bishops' appointments secretary. Actions speak louder than words.
But he's a very tough cookie, brought up within the English establishment. I think his attitude and behaviour is shaped by the instinct of establishment people to do what's necessary to maintain their position within it. So a part of him has to die over the current disagreement: his establishment instinct or his faithfulness to the word of God. It's not looking good. We should pray that he will repent and do the right thing but, humanly speaking, things are looking very shaky - for him and therefore for all of us.
We all as Christians have family members and close friends who make decisions that we feel uncomfortable with and make us lose sleep. What we do is go back to scripture and pray, then we choose obedience to Christ, die to self and take up our cross.
Unless you are Welby. In which case you surround yourself with others with similar doubts and listen to those who speak things contrary to the truth thus grow your doubts. He will have to lose everything he has built to get back. I pray he does of course do this.
The problem is he was not appointed by God but ultimately a secular politician. He's from the oil industry, he likes top down organisations but erroneously thinks he's at the top of his current organisation rather than God! He has failed to see that the instruction manual for living life that he is supposed to stand for, defend and teach his flock is contained in the 66 books of the Bible not in woke culture! The fruit of his heresy is now he is no longer first among equals, he is no longer even in communion with the rest of the Anglican Church! He's still deluded in thinking everyone is free to disagree with him and that they in turn will return the favour!!! Rejecting the teaching of the Bible and the doctrines of the Church of Jesus Christ is heresy NOT disagreement! Admitting he was wrong to vote for blessing sinful unions, wearing sackcloth and calling the Church of England to repentance is the only way back! To do that he'd actually have to lead, disciple and maybe even discipline other heretical leaders! There's a first for everything but he's STILL proud!
He shouldn't be pulled in 2 directions....God's word is final!!!
I think the worst position for anyone to be , especially a Christian, is neutral, it is called Lukewarm in the Bible, when someone is neither cold nor warm, such a person is in a worse situation than even those who are cold ( Atheists). There is no middle ground as far as the things and principles of God is concerned. When you decide to follow Jesus, you must without any compromise follow HIS Instructions, which is HIS WORD, THE BIBLE, ., Cursed are those who add or subtract that which is written in the Bible.
I am beginning to wonder whether Justin Welby really understands the Bible or believes that he serves Christ rather than his position as a Archbishop or accedes to public opinion. He is thinking of his historic place in the coronation of King Charles. Time to cut him loose.
Jesu said, “ I will build My Church and the gates of hell will not prevail “.
good vid!
"Pursue peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord." Heb 12:14
Justin Welby should grow some balls and tell the British government in no uncertain terms that the government does not have the authority to dictate doctrine to the Church of Jesus Christ. (Rom.13:1-7) Indeed, it is by the good grace of God that every single person in existence takes their every breath?! Welby needs to inform the government that he and God together are the majority! (Lk.19:27; Rev.6:16; Rev.21:8)
Either that or stand aside for someone who actually believes in God and whom God can use to make a difference instead of just presiding over the total demise of the Church in England?!
This is what comes of climbing into bed with the state?! 🤦♂️
See God and Government (formerly Kingdoms in Conflict) by Chuck Colson
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Sadly he bsurrounded by wormtongues telling him to follow Saruman and souron...
Eventually, things had to come to this. The Church climbing into bed with the State? Isn’t that why there is a “Church of England” at all?
The problem with the Church of England is that it has always been in bed with the state to some extent. Those would wouldn't comply either were murdered or fled to America.
judgment begins at the house of the Lord... we a go see this happen with the sodomite UK church!!!!
Follow BP. Michael Nazir Ali. He is now a Catholic. Ask him why did he leave the Anglicans?
Can the Bishop's in England not postpone the dicisions which was made regarding gays receiving blessings . I think they were to hasty in giving Synod the green light. Just think how sad Anglicans the world over is feeling over the split
I'm wondering if the Anglican church of Southern Africa was represented @ the Gafcon meeting
I heard it was heavily funded by American Episcopalians - if so it might influence its theology
Hi rev. Dan is there any way we can enthron that arch. Bishop
I was lost at “2 Christians cannot lie in this case…” I think you counted wrongly.
Devils is in the house.
What interests me is that none of these conservations mention the Bible😢
Be fair? Then may The Lord judge him on this, according to the same measure, and using the same principles as the archbishop used to judged this matter himself. I wonder if satan pressured him to follow hell's official policy, would he attempt to placateJesus in private, while publicly voting for the devil? Being a good shepherd IS a huge responsibility. One with a known penalty for succumbing to the corruption of, or the exploitation of, or the scattering of God's flock!
What happens if the two same sex partners who wish to fulfill their heart’s desires in marriage are two brothers from the same family? Would the pro same sex clergy marry them?
VERY GOOD POINT ,what next ?
Jesus did not concern himself with offending, it happens, people CHOOSE to be,this is where he fell over, going with world on so many issues.
Left the Anglican Church in Australia when they started referring to the Holy Spirit as “she”. Their further demise is sad.
Which one?
Must be an inner city branch in Victoria
Guessing
@@DMC33 diocese of Newcastle NSW.
You should join the church of the Southern Cross the schism in Anglican belief in Australia.
@@nicksun7619 they didn’t exist when I left the church
How do you know the gender of the Holy spirit? God made man and woman in the image of God! That means both make and female.
The truely Christian position re homosexuality is that the homosexual person is loved by God and by Christians. However the act between homosexuals is wrong.
He is trying to lead a divided church which both sides doesn't want to compoise over this issue
There is no compromise! As children of God we must follow our Father and his Words are clear and unchanging. He does not compromise and neither must we 🙏❤🙏
Yes Rev Dan thank you for this video , prayer is certainly needed for the Archbishop ( who has been very open on the radio and in lectures about his struggles with depression) but for all at this time of struggle around the result of the Bishops' vote which meant that neither church members or clergy or same sex marriage campaigners were satisfied. There is no 'one suits all' solution here which will bring and keep folks together, the consequences of this situation are harmful to everyone .
I hear the concern of the Bishop in this video for the churches in Nigeria facing Boko Haram , a frightening prospect, equally I think of the new Death Penalty law against homosexuals passed in Uganda and shouldn't churches in the worldwide communion make some sort of protest against that? To show compassion , act justly , live as salt and light are biblical acts , so prayer and action is surely needed to move forward. With all respect to politicians their role is a secular one . Disestablishment of the C of E looks probable now I think.
The only prayer he needs is for him to be able to humble himself and repent! He'd find relief from his depression if he actually started to take the Bible seriously and WANT to please God rather than man!
@@bigd5090 What's everyone complaining about? The head of the Anglican organisation is simply being a good Protestant. Every fanciful doctrinal conclusion is arrived at under the practice of Bible As Final Authority. Nothing is out of bounds. No need for the Rock of Peter and his successors. Thank you Martin Luther
@@DD-bx8rb The Anglican/Protestant Communion is doing just fine under Jesus Christ without an un-Biblical Apostle Paul replacement thanks. The Bible is a good basis to govern a church i.e. accountable spiritual focused eldership with deacons helping with practical issues. The problem is the CofE don't seem to respect the Bible and it's led to their demise.
@@bigd5090 On the contrary, the practice of Bible as Final Authority is not "a good basis to govern a church". Rather, it leads to thousands of versions of "truth" and continual division. You bemoan the C of E "not respecting the Bible", yet you must admit every group that sincerely practices Bible As Final Authority arrives at different doctrinal conclusions. The practice, by it's very nature, cannot, has not, provided the infallible doctrinal truth which Jesus Christ promised to lead us in. The practice is a 500 year old failed practice, which is clearly of Satan.
@@DD-bx8rb The Bible clearly describes acceptable human relationship statuses in 1 Corinthians 7:1-7. Either you undertake sexual activity in marriage (equals one man and one woman) or you follow a call to celibacy (the favoured position since you can devote more time to God but if you have desires to be married then you should desire that instead). The fact that the CofE reject this teaching means they ARE heretics! They no longer represent Jesus and are instead people pleasers! They are at best 'lukewarm' and we know where that leads!
Walking away from God’s Word, will never lead to a positive unity. Our unity as Christians must put the truth of the Bible first.
With all due respect, Welby is just a bureaucrat.
And unelected
@@joshuaking2171 The North just doesn't want to be controlled by the third world.
Stop referring to Welby and the other apostates as Christians. Matthew 7:16-20 KJV ... Ye shall know them by their fruits.
What's everyone complaining about? The head of the Anglican organisation is simply being a good Protestant. Every fanciful doctrinal conclusion is arrived at under the practice of Bible As Final Authority. Nothing is out of bounds. No need for the Rock of Peter and his successors. Thank you Martin Luther
I’m a Ugandan-if we continue with the Church of England, other people will call us the Church of homosexuals…
How about his: h Church where all of God;s Children are welcomed and loved.
Sadly they would be correct
@@DJS11811 and told to repent and sin no more
@@des4852 You First. You got a log in your own eye.
@@DJS11811 No, we ALL have to TURN from our sin or ultimately we never really understood our sinful state or why Jesus had to die and rise from the dead to atone for OUR sin, pay the price and defeat death to redeem us! To say your not going to listen to the Gospel of Jesus Christ (the ONLY sinless human that ever lived) because one of his people still struggles with sin is severely missing the point! Repent and turn to Jesus while there is still time!
If the C of E church keeps compromising the Gospel of Jesus it will be one of the dead churches in End Days . God will turn His back on them. I'm praying for you 🙏
I left the Church of England a while ago and now attend a Free Evangelical Church. ✝️
God The same yesterday today and forever. God does not change his mind or overturn His Word so anyone or any church that tries to change His word is in error and needs to repent. Simple.
Justin Welby made my faith homeless many years ago. As for him being "threatened by parliamentarians" this is a poor excuse for doing the wrong thing for anyone. For the archbishops who is supposed to lead, to have moral rectitude this is an absolute failing . If threatened, he should announce it to the world, he should denounce those who threatened. Or is the English Church simply a corporation of parliament?
Thank you for the video Reverend Daniel, but please take care to read what you are reading out carefully. Every word is important. In many places you misread what was written.
He was asked to address 'these things' at the Lambeth conference I recall, by Phil Ashley - from the American Anglican Council - He asked "Your grace, do you accept that the GSFA have said that they are not walking together with those who do not abide by Lambeth Resolution 1:10 1998?" - after trying to pass the question over to Gavin Drake, he was forced to answer.
He said "Yes of course - if they said it, of course I accept they said it. I mean I can't deny they have said what they have said, but they didn’t mean it, they meant what I mean, even though they said the opposite”.
I think there may be a problem with hearing also! I now attend an Oswestry CofE and think what alternative is there for the GSFA, when they are ignored, but to reset the Anglican Communion without the weak leadership.
Hi Rev Dan, I find your coment you placed .ore or less a disclaimer and sadly yes a cop-out. Has someone from up above had a word with you. God bless I am praying for you and the Anglican church. 🙂
Justin Welby needs to take careful stock of his doctrine. We must pray for him, he's in serious trouble. He's experiencing a crisis of faith. He's become confused and is using very emotive words, not sure where he's get the facts from for his ungrounded prophesy. 🙏✝️
I have rejoined an Anglican Church as my so called Evangelical church adopted a seeker sensitive approach which means No Gospel just entertainment for Goats. From this experience I’m not sure any denomination will survive if they ignore Christ and his teaching. Doesn’t the great commission say make disciples?
12:17 I'm not British but aren't the church going C of E laity very conservative?
Yes!
Hello dear
If there is a controversy, with some people pressing for innovation in the Church, the safest thing to do is to stick to normal Church practice and stand up to the innovators, surely. Especially if the innovations are so totally alien to all previous doctrine and would lead not only to division within the wider Christian community but also within the Anglican Church itself. How utterly foolish of Welby to vote with the innovators in this case.
"...nothing to do with homosexuals," is not the right phrasing. Love the sinner but hate the sin! Do any Anglicans get what the Great Commission actually is? It makes me wonder...
Thanks for standing up for christ jesus archbishop no bow to the devil like the rest of them
God, as expressed in the Bible, is in charge. No Parliament, no Archbishop, or synod can alter the will of God.
judgment begins at the house of the Lord....1 Peter 4vs17
if the salt loses it saltiness, it is no good except to be thrown out in the streets and trampled on by men..Matthew 5v13-13-16
May God judge these evil men in His church and me we all see it ... Father in Jesus name I pray!
No matter where you stand, you’ll be by be yourself in front of Jesus with no one else to blame
Read the Bible. Apply it to your life daily without academic interpretation
You can then justify it all to Jesus
A good tree cannot bear bad fruit
What's everyone complaining about? The head of the Anglican organisation is simply being a good Protestant. Every fanciful doctrinal conclusion is arrived at under the practice of Bible As Final Authority. Nothing is out of bounds. No need for the Rock of Peter and his successors. Thank you Martin Luther
Index of Attitudes toward Homosexuals was positively correlated with results from the Sexual Attitude Scale, the Disgust Emotion Scale and the Padua Inventory. Subjects who showed homophobic tendencies on the IAH also displayed conservative sexual attitudes, elevated levels of disgust and dread of contamination.
It's the "ick" factor that drives them as well as internalized hatred.
Isaiah 3.
I believe Justin Welby is showing a lot of similarities with the author of confusion!
Trying to be be all things to man turning away from God and his word, let us make God in our likness and image.
Hopefully, the spiritual death of the Church of England masquerading as an ordered public retreat will motivate the faithful to take the Gospel of Jesus Christ to the world; Sin came into the world through Adam, God loves me, I have sinned, Jesus died for me to pay the price for my sin, Jesus rose again to defeat death, I need to decide to live for God!
Lead; do not follow the world!
Amazing how church leaders have caved.
The vicar in Madagascar should read Paul’s letters towards the end of the Bible in Galatians regarding this. We cannot compromise our Living God’s laws which Jesus emphasised to his apostles. That doesn’t mean they are banned from church, Bible study or prayers but Jesus warned us that we would face many hardships and criticism as his return comes closer. We can love our friends with different views but we can’t share them or compromise ourselves once baptised.
Seems Welby worshipping Janus not Jesus
PS: How many c of e ' members ' went to that satanic celebration in Walsingham ? Along with the unbiblical clergy from the unbiblical ' diocese '.
How on earth people can be associated with the c of e and call themselves ' born again ' is a contradiction in terms. 2 Corinthians 6 : 14-18 et al ( KJV )
The Anglican Church made it its core business to please the world from its begining some 500 years ago. Just stating historical fact.The practice of Bible As Final Authority can be used to support any fanciful doctrine. Homosexuality, divorce, Faith-Alone, Bible Alone, The Eucharist as a symbol, Abortion etc etc. Nothing is out of bounds. You would realise the Laberth Conference in 1930 approved contraception ofter 400 years of holding that the Bible taught against it. You see, the practice of Bible As Final Authority is the problem as it results in hundreds of versions of "truth" and division.
Nothing to Loose your Head over They Will take that aswell.
As written.
You can not serve 2 masters at the same time, unity can only come through unity in the Lord Jesus not appeasing error
Matthew :24:11:
1st John 4:1:
Very, very important! ! ! !
VIVA Calvin Robinson. "Stand up, stand up for Jesus, ye soldiers of the cross"
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This man is a demon!!
This is not about culture, it is abouy the bible and our faith.
With regular and fair church elections, things are voted 🗳️ in every church. One law or opinions are never sway over all churches, perhaps truth is difficult to understand? The communion of churches is stronger then anyone person.
So has he been threatened
And what with? He mentions people being killed and women raped. Where would this be and who by?😮&
That wasn’t made clear in the clip that Dan chose to play. He could have been responding the the previous clip but without seeing the whole thing you can’t tell. The mention of Boko Haram seemed unconnected to the discussions as that is an Islamist organisation and has been targeting people in Nigeria for at least a decade and as far as I know Nigeria isn’t necessarily pro LGBGT and I doubt the Nigerian Anglican church is pro either - and so their current stance on these issues doesn’t seem to have made Christians less of a target for the terrorists.
The church of England is cover up sex abuse
He doesn't truly believe what the gospel teaches in ethics and morality, nor does he accept the constant Deposit of the Christian Faith on the primacy of Sacred Scripture on sexual moral teaching. He cannot authentically call himself a Christian. He's something else.
Its ashame
We need to spiritually fight against bullying in the church by clergy and the whims of ordinary people. God didn't change His Word. Having a designated gender stands. There is a reason why God said, " man shall not lay with man!" We should, in the church , not be celebrating gay union. All people yes, God loves all people but not the sin, the sexual sin and churches are bowing to pressure to accept more sin into the church and this is bringing the church down to satans level! All clergy should not be afraid to speak the truth of the lord!
The Anglican Church made it its core business to please the world from its begining some 500 years ago. Just stating historical fact.The practice of Bible As Final Authority can be used to support any fanciful doctrine. Homosexuality, divorce, Faith-Alone, Bible Alone, The Eucharist as a symbol, Abortion etc etc. Nothing is out of bounds. You would realise the Laberth Conference in 1930 approved contraception ofter 400 years of holding that the Bible taught against it. You see, the practice of Bible As Final Authority is the problem as it results in hundreds of versions of "truth" and division.
What's everyone complaining about? The head of the Anglican organisation is simply being a good Protestant. Every fanciful doctrinal conclusion is arrived at under the practice of Bible As Final Authority. Nothing is out of bounds. Thank you Martin Luther
The church should influence the culture. The culture should not influence the church. God is going to judge greatly those who are teachers and stray from His teachings.
The Anglican Church made it its core business to please the world from its begining some 500 years ago. Just stating historical fact.The practice of Bible As Final Authority can be used to support any fanciful doctrine. Homosexuality, divorce, Faith-Alone, Bible Alone, The Eucharist as a symbol, Abortion etc etc. Nothing is out of bounds. You would realise the Laberth Conference in 1930 approved contraception ofter 400 years of holding that the Bible taught against it. You see, the practice of Bible As Final Authority is the problem as it results in hundreds of versions of "truth" and division.
Why so complicated? Just obey God,why all the talk with government ,their opinion is nothing.Only the Lords will matters.Also why is there women preacher’s in the church when God forbids them to preach?? So sad the totally disobedient of men with power that will have to give account to GOD for leading people to hell .
What's everyone complaining about? The head of the Anglican organisation is simply being a good Protestant. Every fanciful doctrinal conclusion is arrived at under the practice of Bible As Final Authority. Nothing is out of bounds. Thank you Martin Luther
Follow scripture. That's fair. With a heart of love. If you can understand what really means..
Sounds like he’s lying to me 😢 to say that he’s been bullied by the politicians, if that is true it means he’s putting them and the gay community before God, this is not good, difficult job or not what he’s done is wrong by condoning sin and causing disunity in the church, all of this it making me feel so sad.
He occupies the position of men like Beckett and Cranmer, oh that he would follow the latter's example when he realised his error and failure of nerve - and received grace even to thrust the hand that wrote his initial capitulation into the flames first.
@@MrZORROish "How CAN you believe, you who receive the praises of men above the praises of God?"
Last year the Southern Baptist Convention expelled 3 churches: Not from having a gay persons in leadership role, but for letting gays attending Sunday Service. One Church in Texas, one Church in Florida, and one Church in Georgia. Simply for attending Church. Whom did Jesus turn away?
What's everyone complaining about? The head of the Anglican organisation is simply being a good Protestant. Every fanciful doctrinal conclusion is arrived at under the practice of Bible As Final Authority. Nothing is out of bounds. Thank you Martin Luther
The Bible and the Bible alone should be the final word on all matters pertaining to the Church. It is God's word and instruction to all people in all ages past, present and future and not one word of it should ever be put aside for the sake of fitting in with worldly thought or ideology. The Anglican Church must become a wholly Biblical Church.
Ah ok let’s bring back slavery then, stoning people etc.
What's everyone complaining about? The head of the Anglican organisation is simply being a good Protestant. Every fanciful doctrinal conclusion is arrived at under the practice of Bible As Final Authority. Nothing is out of bounds. No need for the Rock of Peter and His successors. Thank you Martin Luther
The Anglican Church made it its core business to please the world from its begining some 500 years ago. Just stating historical fact.The practice of Bible As Final Authority can be used to support any fanciful doctrine. Homosexuality, divorce, Faith-Alone, Bible Alone, The Eucharist as a symbol, Abortion etc etc. Nothing is out of bounds. You would realise the Laberth Conference in 1930 approved contraception ofter 400 years of holding that the Bible taught against it. You see, the practice of Bible As Final Authority is the problem as it results in hundreds of versions of "truth" and division.
Why don,t they marry couples properly or not at all ,why the fudge?
The entire Anglican Communion has one rule and guide to Faith, practice and Salvation; the Holy Bible... perhaps the ABC and his advisors should spend more time there rather than at other pursuits?
Thank you Reverend for staying true to the Bible's teachings and for your videos. Archbishop buckled to worldly pressure, as shown by his vote for same sex marriage blessings. Bishops are not to be swayed by politics, that is not compatible with their role. Blessings of same sex marriage is wrong. Perhaps there could be declarations by some Anglican Reverends at the pulpits that they follow the teachings of Jesus for marriage to be between a man and a woman, that teaching is in the Old Testament too. Reverends doing spiritual warfare against dark forces - the future of the true Anglican Church depends on it - the shepherds are to keep their flock safe from wrong teachings.
But they aren’t being married you can bless anyone and they could be abusing someone for all you know . People are blessed every day in church who are sinners.
How do you know its wrong to bless same sex Marraige? Are you god? Did you sit at the side of god and he told you? Or are you presuming based on a bible that he be re enterpretated time and time again and edited by man?.
Just stating historical fact.The practice of Bible As Final Authority can be used to support any fanciful doctrine. Homosexuality, divorce, Faith-Alone, Bible Alone, The Eucharist as a symbol, Abortion etc etc. Nothing is out of bounds. You would realise the Laberth Conference in 1930 approved contraception ofter 400 years of holding that the Bible taught against it. You see, the practice of Bible As Final Authority is the problem as it results in hundreds of versions of "truth" and division.
Lol... This is not walking a tight line... This same choice was made once long ago. As I recall it did not work out so well for those choosing self over fealty....
Seem to recall something or other about being dragged in front of rulers and magistrates and how you should respond.... Hmm.. now where was that.. ? ... seriously...
It's called hypocrisy.
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I did not leave the Church of England I now attend the Church of England who have cut ties with the group who support the bishops and Archbishop of Canterbury .
This man has forgotten its about Jesus , Jesus, he is playing on people emotions. Justin Welby should stand up against the parliament , he fears man , he first put the blame on the Queen Now he blames parliament . The Archbishop of Canterbury have no back bone against the evils of parliament. He has split the Church of England .
So you are saying Archbishop is lying, an even more fundamental doctine issue.
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Welby us the same as Francis in the Catholic Church
Just to pick you up on one point you made in passing: I'm not convinced that disestablishment would be a good thing. As with any development, there would be pros and cons, but I think the function of the CofE as the established church remains important. That's why this whole issue is so damaging to the church.
I think many people are put off of joining their local c of e church given that they're part of the establishment. Charles and Welby don't really cut it as role models IMO.
Sorry but there's not a Christian bone in his body
Who are you to judge? Jesus wasn't even Christian he was a Jew. The early Church brought about the word Christian
What's everyone complaining about? The head of the Anglican organisation is simply being a good Protestant. Every fanciful doctrinal conclusion is arrived at under the practice of Bible As Final Authority. Nothing is out of bounds. No need for the Rock of Peter and his successors. Thank you Martin Luther
@D D who is the not-so-secret Bergoglian Pachamama idols supporter here, eh?