Soviet Jews' Disappointing Move to Israel
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- Опубликовано: 10 фев 2011
- The Olim (1991) - Soviet Jews who opted to go to Israel - are committing suicide in their promised land.
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They cannot find work and are forced to live in tent villages because they cannot afford the high cost of living in Israel. They are also persecuted for not being 'real' Jews. The newcomers wonder whether Israel is really an improvement on their previous life in Russia. Many had good professional jobs but are now forced to take jobs once the lot of Palestinians; a chief scientist works as a night-watchman; a biologist works as a cleaner. Instead of being used for their intellectual abilities, the Olim are being used to build a new Jerusalem on Palestinian land.
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The same happens in Canada . Thousands of doctors , dentist , engineers etc... Come to the' promised " land of opportunity , diversity and "equality" where immigrants can thrive and prosper . just to find themselves washing dishes , mopping floors in gas stations or driving taxi cabs . Do yourself a favor and research the place you are going to . Follow opportunity and do not chase your dreams .
they come to stolen land
difficult to research when you live in a closed country like the soviet union. although i still agree with you, emigrating is only worth it when you'll have a better quality of life and be happier than where you came from
Israel is ethnic state
Although this video showing the reality,your comment is just misleading.
I've seen a lot of this where I live in NYC metro area. Soviet Jews who came here thinking they would become rich. Some did become rich, many ended up doing menial work, or going on welfare. The saddest part of the story is that many are highly educated. Despite the 'repression' many of the these Jews were professionals in the former USSR. Engineers, doctors, college professors, etc. In the US many ended up driving cabs, working as janitors, etc.
That’s not exclusive for Soviet Jews, almost all Soviet people are like that.
because many degrees were not recognized in the US
@@daMacadamBlob And many couldn't master English. I see these people around here every day. Despite being in the US 35+ years, their English is atrocious.
@@MrSloika thats odd
@@sbakst exactly
Moral of the story , one must do in depth research before changing address . The Israeli Govt. should make it clear to these people that a jewish dentist in Russia may not be looking into an Israeli mouth .
Situations have changed. This is documentary from 1991.
@@justakhilyapping
What situation now?
You are right, people should be less trustful since we are all pawns in political games
strange wording
open borders for Israel! every ethnicity and religion should be welcome!
Lesson is, never trust anyones peopaganda, do your own research to find out what u can do, where to live, etc.
@Mrfixit
ruclips.net/video/GiPe1OiKQuk/видео.html
This video is also propoganda
Indeed. But with our speedy lives, working long hours, taking care of kids and / or elderly, there are not many people with the time to do their own research.
No one has promised them a better life, we had promised them a jewish state. The once complaining on the video came for the wrong reasons, they should have stayed in russia eating potatoes 3 meals a day.
today it's more easier done than back then in the 80 and 90s
The same things happens to ANY immigrant to ANY country, unless there was a job in the country of destination already set up. This case is especially sad because they thought they'd finally find a place where they belonged, but in the end it was the same secular political bullshit that is pervasive in any country, any language, any religion, and under any type of economic or political administration.
It's jobs in my country .
Alarm bells should be ringing if anyone claims that 'God is for me and my tribe alone'
thats an opinion. most religions believe heaven is for their religion alone. thats also an opinion. nothing to cry about.
@@thehonesttruth415 there's a difference between "my religion alone" and "my people alone".
If you don't believe in it, then no reason to complain about, but I do believe God has a special relationship with their forefathers, the Israeli. I think I'm a Christian thank God for that.
Firstly, 50% of Israelis are secular.
Secondly, anyone can convert to Judaism.
Thirdly, according to Judaism when the messiah comes every living being on earth will be saved. Here is the answer to the question by a rabbi:
outreachjudaism.org/will-god-save-only-the-jews/
do you worship a stone
it would be interesting to see, how these people live today and what has happened to them since that time
They're doing very well, however they live in a Russian bubble. They have their own neighbourhood, tv stations and newspapers etc. A big issue is that 1/3 of them aren't religiously Jewish, just one grandparent Jewish so they don't follow any Jewish customs. This brings an issue in Israel that's supposed to be a Jewish state. An example of this is burning the dead and eating pork. This annoys the orthodox and Mizrahi Jews.
@@akhan4727 i know guys, but i meant these people in the video. Dont forget that almost the half of russian repatriants went back or moved to the other countries in the following years after repatriation.
Israel exploits them toughly. Many people from this vid are likely to be dead by now. Lucky ones went back or emigrated to other countries. But some of them have indeed improved economically and even became hardcore zionists
@@akhan4727 I'm a secular ashkenazi and it annoys me when I hear people speak Russian, especially if they're not old
@@akhan4727 wtf
This is what happens when someone tells you that you are special and then you find out that you are just another ordinary human.
😂😂😂😂
Have met a couple of russian Jews in the USA who also regreted their move to usa. They themselves said they had good life in Russia and Russian republics as Uzbekistan but hoped for better.
Yeah everyone regrets moving but wouldn't return
@@Firstname_Surname
How to return when you sold everything there. Easy to say than to do.
@@aishkaa7087 Exactly. Easy to talk and say the grass is greener on the other side.
@@zavtradnem
They cake here when it was part of soviet union. I'm from Russia don't school me on what is Russia and what isn't.
@@zavtradnem
So I guess Jews are hating on each other too ,depending on what kind of Jews they are.
No instant gratification possible. What happened was what normally happens when you emigrate to a country and have no money and don't speak the language: namely: it will take time for you to get on your feet and you will have to make do with a lower status for some time. Later, things get better. Same happened in the US to most immigrants. Takes at least about a decade to get established. Tens of millions moved to the USA. And , for some time, they had to take any job. Then, later, things got better and they had a good life. In Israel now, the Soviet Jews are doing very well. It just that they did not become established overnight. It took them some time.
Idk what's worse for Soviet Jews in 1991, staying in the USSR and witnessing its collapse and being stuck in completely new countries making the brutal and painstaking transition from communism to capitalism (during this time, crime soared/inflation was terrible/healthcare was decimated, but it did calm down in the 2000s); or moving to Israel and being forced to start over doing menial labor until you learn new skills/credentials in a country where your Soviet degrees/job skills are not necessarily accepted. Tough choice tbh. I think I'd move to Israel if I were not situated in the re-constituted Baltic states, since they experienced much better economic growth post-USSR than Russia/Belarus/Ukraine.
With that 38 Billion $$ a year from US I'm sure they are doing fine
This appears to be an old documentary....
Muslims get a lot.... more from US then Jews do... a lot more... and what do we get in return?.... nothing but pathological Hate....
Here's the list....
In terms of individual countries, the following receive the most in economic [not security] aid:
Afghanistan ($US650,000,000)
Jordan ($US635,800,000)
Kenya ($US632,500,000)
Tanzania ($US534,500,000)
Uganda ($US435,500,000)
Zambia ($US428,525,000)
Nigeria ($US413,300,000)
In terms of security aid, the countries receiving the most help are:
Afghanistan ($US5 billion)
Israel ($US3.2 billion)
Iraq ($US1.3 billion)
Egypt ($US1.3 billion)
Syria ($US541,500,000)
Jordan ($US364,200,000)
www.abc.net.au/news/2017-12-21/here-are-the-countries-that-get-the-most-foreign-aid-from-the-us/9278164
@Janette Davis
Is it why so many people worldwide would love to move to the US :) really.... because people are stupid here....
@@stnln2180 Careful not to enrage the liberal/muslim/new-world order satan worshipper. You can't point out how much aid the U.S. gives to shithole countries that hate us.
@@TheOnIyGod
The only reason we even know name of a shit hole country like Afghanistan as an example is because that where Al Queda Islamists bases located. The same problem of Islamism infected most of the Muslim majority countries, especially in the Middle East. Otherwise nobody would ever care about any of them... As far as Jews... they are on the forefront flight against Islamism and for that... "I stand with Israel".... all the way....
This video was made during the very beginning of the immigration wave. Of course there was a lot of confusion in the beginning due to the sheer size of this wave. It would be like the United States absorbing the entire populations of France, Belgium, and the Netherlands.
The Russian Jews today are prominent in Israel's scientific and high-tech industries, and enjoy a higher quality of life than they would in Russia.
@The Ian Lev Experience Unless life was grim I can see no reason why anyone would get up and leave a place where they live comfortably and have great jobs, in reality they must of been living a pretty shite existence, considering they seem more Christian than Jewish I'm bewildered why they emigrated..
Agree..
france belgium and the netherlands are litteraly tens of milions of people. israel has just 8 milion people. i think people are blowing things out of proportion
The Ian Lev Experience
The Israelis make it so easy to trash them.
The Ian Lev Experience at least it’s not an apartheid country
When your building up a country one should advertise for skills in immigrants that the country needs and turn away those that are not needed unless able to train in a needed skill. This is what Australia did in the 1950's when it advertised in British newspapers as an example.
In the wise and decent way ot could ba done like you depicted. But Israel needed them as the new soldiers and cheap manpower (not for the menial jobs but for literally all jobs). And beyond this, Israel needs its jewish population steadily to grow. So it makes conditions for immigrant under which they have difficulty to get richier and emigrate from Israel
@@vladimirz3301 These people aren't religious though I think
Guys this was 1991. It's 2020 today lol
Your point being ?
Today its worse .
That’s the worst part ... ain’t much changed
One thing didn't change, they still speak Russian 😒
@@tFighterPilot lol
I went straight to the comments when I saw this title
The translation from Russian is completely wrong.
Also, how could you go from Israel to Apartheid? Your prob. one of those broken dudes who think Trump is going to save the "white man" in Africa lol..
@Delon Duvenage Me.. I am still laughing, I never stopped laughing. I dont know how far upp your *ss your head is but if you took it out you would see that its not going so well for your cause and that god has indeed gotten sick of the children of satan, meaning the racist whites of not only SA and Africa but the entire world. You have already been kicked out from Zambia, Zimbabwe, Mozambique, Angola, Congo, Democratic republic of Congo and now you are soon out of SA, next its Namibia (yes, they also have EFF :D) :
ruclips.net/video/S-9Dd5uAhl8/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/iVA4kzW2KbQ/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/xtND-mIONpE/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/PMKfTsI2aEg/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/Ba0toyra0Co/видео.html
But sure, live your life with your head down your *ss, and keep pissing off natives of Africa, dont cry when they get so sick of you that they dont even wanna talk to you and resort to the same awful techniques and deeds as you had/did. I just saw a news clip of a family being boiled alive including a child, they where tortured with blowtorches and killed slowly filled with agony and I could not understand what would bring a person to hate another person that much. But the more I read about the racist whites of Sa and Africa I understand just how truly wicked and evil you demons really are, that the farm attackers have just adapted to the sick reality you have brought. there is a reason why people dont act like thation Zimbabwe, there are no racist whites of courser.
Zimbabwe have all these white farmers running back to farm land even though they are not allowed to own land anymore only lease, they still go back because they know their place..
Just by query, what is an accurate translation?
El Ricko Jãmes racist whites? You Mean racist blacks. Are you one of the simplefied people that only sees someone color instead the individual person.
Delon Duvenage get back to your gated community jaapie, you are never going to get “your” country back. Why don’t you just fuck off to Australia like the rest of your family?
This film was made in 1991 and is well out of date =almost 30 years old . most of the Russians have now settled in and have 2nd and 3rd generations born in israel
My query is answered. Thanks.
It’s a very hard lesson to learn. Israeli apartheid discriminates Jews that are not Ashkenazi. Are treated differently. Sinful to say the least.
Maybe the name says it all...AshkeNazi.
This comment makes no sense. Russian Jews are Ashkenazi Jews.
One could hardly be more Ashkenazi than Russian Jews
The Ethiopian Falacha have it worst of all .
Aschkenazy and Sefardic both come from Europe. Aschkenazim from West and East Europe and Sefardim from South Europe. The Mizrahim are from Arab countries. Only Italian and Ethiopian Jews do not belong to any of those groups.
This is 30yrs ago. It's different all over the world now.
Still lot's of racists in Israel, Now they bully the africans in Israel.
It’s still pretty bad. The new Israeli laws 1977 are not fair and still in effect.
@@mikejones3863 You care about the Africans? Show me how. You just want to say something negative about the Jews.
@@y.k.9705 so what? you can't point out the negative that you do in the world 😒
@@marshalljulie3676 Absolutely you can but it has to be TRUE. If you point out my shortcomings and this is constructive I will thank you. But if you aim to hurt and that's all you want to do, then.....
who made russian translation? its horrible and in some cases completely wrong
What is this? the English subtitles, partly, at least, don't match what they're saying in Russian (i speak and understand russian), and it's particularly felt when the man speaks in Russian, where, who ever is responsible for the subtitles goes completely "off script".
Why would the video's creators deliberately falsly translate what the russian speaking interviewees are saying? If you got an agenda to this video (which the video's creators do, obviously), if you got something to say, narrate it yourselves or find someone who actually says it, but don't put false and/or very inaccurate english translation subtitles, as a supposed translation of what they're saying, to better suit your needs, even if you think that it's what the interviewee actually meant, even if the renegade words in the subtitles make perfect sense, conceptually...it's not what the interviewee said in the video, and thus shouldn't be presented as such.
It just makes the video more untrustworthy.
Regardless of this discouraging outdated video (made almost 30 years ago, practically, at the beginning of the 1990's "Russian" Aliyah, when it was, generally, especially difficult), The Russian / (former) Soviet Aliyah (Repatriation) of about 1 million people (Majority of whom Jews, but with a considerable minority of non-jews with blood or marriage ties to Jews, i.e. mostly, children of jewish fathers, husbands and wives of Jews, and non jewish older parents), despite the (especially) initial hardships of it's absorbtion, assimilation and integration in israel, has actually been, and in fact, still is, one of the most successful, productive and contributing repatriations, in the 70+ years history of the modern country of Israel.
Though, many, regretfully, indeed, did not find employment in their previous USSR professionss, still, many professionals from this Aliyah, who wanted it bad enough, worked their butts off to get it, learned the language well enough, and, yes, often, worked in menial labour, blue collar jobs, too, to support themselves and their families, like most of the others from their Aliyah, in the beginning, at least, AND who were resourceful, and studious, and MOTIVATED enough (and luck is probably also a factor, though much of our luck we create ourselves, i believe), eventually, DID get to work in their previously chosen professions, in israel, as well. Teachers, doctors, journalists, Artists, engeeniers, scientists, etc...
The 1990's russian speaking Aliyah's contribution to israel in the fields of science, medicine, art, sports, culture... is very considerable.
It's inluence is in all walks of israeli life.
About a fifth of the population in israel, are either themselves from former USSR countries, or are israeli born children and grandchildren of those from the former USSR.
And the Olim children, especially, and the children already born in israel, for the most part, assimilated, into israeli and hebrew society quite well.
Though it's hardly all roses, all in all, israel has changed much for the better, because and thanks to the 1990's Aliyah of the soviet/russian jews.
@Ricardo Laakso moron
You are right.
I think they need to become more diverse. I hope to eventually see the same open borders policies that Europe has over there too one day. We are all human. Russians have been a big ally of yours. The Bolshevics need your support.
MaksimLevinskyMusic that's right they have no ties to the area and should go home they are invaders.
@@new_hampshire, Jews (russian/soviet jews included) have the strongest and longest ties, history and claim to and in this land (israel, JUDEA), than any other people, past and certainly present, and have had several sovereign kingdoms/nation states, on and in this land in the past, and no other people has made this land their own. This land has been the jewish/hebrew/israelite ( all synonyms) people's historic national home land, for more than 3,000 years. if there is any people that is native to this land, it is the jews. The longest continual phyisical presence in the land is also jewish, whether many or few, and even through out all the different occupations, after the destruction of the second jewish temple by the romans and the destruction of jerusalen and the Hashmonsim Kingdom, close to 2,000 years ago.
As for "Invaders"...who ARE the actual invaders??? Are you aware of the origin of the names "palestine"/"palestinian"? Look up "Pleshet", from the hebrew word "polshim", which litrally means *invaders*. Do you know why the romans changed JUDEA's name to Palestina/palestine and under what circumstances?
Also, though through religious conversion, one can become part of the jewish people and throughout the millennia, converts have indeed joined and assimilated into the base ethnic jewish people and contributed geneticslly to some degree, most genetic research done on jewish populations (including ashkenazi jews, to which a majority of soviet/russian jews belong), shows that *most* known and researched jewish populations today, including Ashkenazi jews, have definite genetic ties to the midfle east, and are gentically closer to each other, than to the people's that surounded them in their host countries.
In short, The jews cannot be occupiers and invaders in their OWN homeland.
They're not invaders but rarher repatriots, coming back home.
i born to former ex-soviets at 98 to family who did 91 aliyah, i remember the worse thing as kid that i suffered Racism because i had russian accent (still do nowdays) because i came from "DIfferent Mentality". but nowdays it's rarely to be seen because nowdays it's accepted. half of israeli population born to ex-soviets speak russian. Also russian language is kinda official here.
this video is 32 years old
This looks very old. They are probably much better now. But he is right that many of these people are not that Jewish. I have 2 colleagues, one from Russia and one from Belarus. Both Jewish and both moved first to Israel after the collapse of the USSR and then moved to US. They don’t really seem to be that interested in Jewish stuff, unlike another Jewish guy who constantly talks about Jewish holidays. In fact, I have never seen them talking about anything Jewish.
this video is 32 yrs old
They are convert
Subotnik russian
They are convert
Subotnik russian
Watching this in November of 23' this documentary really shows how Israel played all sides.. it's no wonder the hardships Isreal suffers.. oh what a web we weave when we first set out to deceive....
The facepalming is hard. This footage is probably from 1990 or 1991 and I see comments by people who act like it is today. The youtube comments section really is the dumping ground of the inarticulate.
I'm well aware that this feature is over 30 years old and doesn't reflect current realities for "Soviet" Jewish Israelis, but it's still a fascinating picture of how the Soviets fared in their new country.
And it might, God forbid, serve as a warning to Jewish Americans and Europeans thinking Israel is the Promised Land in every sense of the term.
Russians and Ukrainians are still immigrating to the so-called Land of Milk and Honey
What's with the subtitles? A totally different translation from what's being said.
Elaborate?
@@ihatetrainyards4859 The translations vaguely match the subject, but they convey a different message to what the people are actually saying.
@@Alex462047 Can you provide an example?
@@ihatetrainyards4859 The old lady at 2:45 never said she was kicked out into the street in only the clothes she was wearing and stood there crying and crying. She said she was kicked out into the street, only a girl. It's a different meaning.
The scientist at 4:22 comments, it seems to him that they (the Russians) are not given any support through government programs. The translation reads "the worst thing is that we are not needed". It is a different, much more dramatic meaning. The rest of the translation doesn't even remotely relate to what he is saying about, figuratively, the drowning man being left to save himself by his own hand. The translation (translator) dreams up some bullshit about these scientists being unable to help the government, or whatever inscrutable crap it was they wrote there.
Edit: The translation has been edited, in my opinion, to reflect the filmmakers's agenda, not to reflect what was actually said. They are trying to dramatise the plight of these people as much as decency allows.
@@Alex462047 This Documentary is badly slanted - it's also almost 30 years old. The situation is much different now.
Immigrating in itself is a challenging process. However, being able to move where you want to is not the end of the line, but only the beginning of your marathon. Once you've arrived at destination, what do you do now? Highly qualified professionals will suffer the most, such as the scientist working as a night watchman or the biologist working as a cleaner at the hospital. I say that because I'm a lawyer who immigrated to Canada in 2009 but my qualifications were worthless in the new country.
this video is 32 years old !
@@zazie7672 32 y.o. garbage propaganda video
That doesn't explain people being economically coerced into being settlers, enacting violence against the Palestinians. Your disregard for the people subjected to that violence is telling.
@@poop-for-brains I don't know what made you come up with such conclusions but what you stated is not said in the comment. Reading comprehension is clearly not a strength of yours.
"many of the these Jews were professionals in the former USSR. Engineers, doctors, college professors..".
Sounds like media hipocracy. if soviet jews were working in respected professions in soviet how are they repressed? Sounds senseless and nonsense. Because here they look like they have the freedom to collect leftovers in the floor, does that sound human liberty?
It appears to be a miserable place.
Yup.
This feature was filmed in 1991. Almost 30 years back. Things are much different now
Not really..they still can't get along even among themselves ..ruclips.net/video/EreSMs_TV5E/видео.html and more recent divisions between Sephardis, Mizrachis and Ashkenazis ruclips.net/video/xv_0JUBk3fI/видео.html
This is a never-ending issue, though many of these immigrants already died or re-emigrated
I bet it is after get billions of dollars of USA dollars. Of course it changed 😏
Yes, Western tax payers pay for everything they need, while Westerners go without. Follow the money.
i'm russian, my father started from being poor and then he moved to israel and everything changed.
lol !!!
The Russians were promised the world to be in Israel,they arrived and felt let down..but 2019..they do well..life is never easy all over the world.
True
@@THE-COOL-GIRL-CHANNEL You.ve lost me..what are you talking about??
2019 is a vast change from 2011,Russians are more mainstream, it's a process ,Jews from all over the world have had adjustments and sacrifices ,inner strength, it will happen.
I've got to admit, there are some beautiful Jewish women.
Sounds like them ungrateful Jews that left Egypt asking what Moses you brought us out into the desert to die,we have no food or water eat manna and quell if it’s really a improvement from soviet life..I’d send them back if they want to go back... I would be very carful putting anyone who was a communist in any security position... Now we have to be concerned about Jews and Christians from Israel... Huston we are seeing a problem...
I was on a Kibbutz near the town of Kiryat Gat and it was full of Russian Jews and some Indian Jews that was in 1981. Things have changed big time since then it seems.
The kibbutz is known as their collective in the Soviet Union which was created by the Jewish ruling elite.
@@petrokrasnov2967
The difference is if you want to leave a kibbutz no problem.
As a first generation Russian jew living in the USA with a crap ton of family and friends in Israel (who are also Russian Jews) I can say that this video is pretty old, times are WAY better now. Immigration is tough for every country and group of people that move there. A lot of Russian Jews, that either moved to the US or Israel say that their lives were really hard when they first came, and that they were poor. But overtime things changed for the better. If you work hard, you can make it.
Many also immigrated to Germany. The Germans gave them an opportunity from 1998-2004, and in those years more ex-Soviet Jews chose Germany over Israel.
The translation for the guy speaking starting around 4:18 was completely made up and different from what he was actually saying.
What was he saying?
Part of blood Jewish? Is it a religion or a race?
Since jewish is a religion?
@@Longordon1 Jews are Hebrews, and that's by blood. The citizens of Judah were taken to exile in Babylon and there they were called Jews. So today a Jew is both its ethnicity and religion. In Russia they are not called Jews they are called Hebrews or in Russian Evreyi. Just like Arabs who live in Germany are Arabs and will remain to be Arabs, so did the Jews living in other countries. They remained to be Jews.
I think more of the 2
@@paleoaram5105 jews are Israelist, not hebrews, judaism is called as religion, jewish refer to people (followers of judah law or prophets law and exist also jews from blood called royal house)
Azkanatzi??! NO ONE knows true history here
This is from 1991 yet many of the Soviet emigres in Israel speak rather good English if you ask me. Here in L.A. there are lot of Russians and Ukrainians and they don't even speak English this good.
You mean 'well'
Education was very good during the Soviet times, now many people say that the education is not what it used to be.
To be successful in a foreign country, you need two things:
1) language skills (and even with the Russians in Germany who claim to be ethnic Germans after 30 years in Germany, they are poor with a lot of them)
2) good education
People are NOT waiting for you to come.
3) a submissive native population.
4) brown skin.
5) complain about racism and oppression.
Brick of war this only works in western white nations. I don’t think this will get them anywhere in Israel.
But those don't apply to Europe do they?!
Lairs cheats and thieves, Land grabbers and baby killers, same yesterday, same today, same tomorrow.
Truth Seaker Now that’s no way to talk about your family,after all, they raised you to be the imbecile you currently are, thank them, don’t denigrate them.
@@sydneythomason5950 Your account has no content just like a zionist troll account. You bastards did not get kicked out of 109 countries in the last 2,000 years for being fine upstanding citazens did you now.
Truth Seaker we were kicked out because of religion. You believe it’s because we did bad things which we didn’t
Truth Seaker we aren’t land grabbers and baby killers. I think you are talking about Palestinians
@@jacobpinto5175 No I was not talking about the rightful owners of that land I was talking about you.
We invited Russian to Turkey..
Now most of them are millionaires . Around the coast of Marmaris and Ismalia .. they own Hotels
Yes because they stole the property of the millions of Christians killed. That won’t be discussed though. Whole villages were emptied out deporting Christians into forced labor to Siberia. Then resettled with Jews. This happened during Stalin. Those deported either died (mostly) or survived but were never repatriated to their ancient homes.
@@petrokrasnov2967 .. the only people that were allowed to leave the Soviet Union .. we're Jews ..
This film is about 30 years old. It depicts a "reality" that existed at the very beginning of the Russian Aliyah. Today, they are quite valuable members of Israeli society. They are educated and hi-tech, engineers and Drs. They have contributed greatly to the rebirth of the country. This film is very outdated.
@@b.k.3280 wow
I hate how they post decades old news stories, at least this channel posted the original date of publication. 60 Minutes Australia doesn't even bother with that much.
@Skrooge Lantay yes, there is a discriminative and hateful attitude on the russian-speaking jews from the state and from tepresentatives of other communities
@Skrooge Lantay partly yes, but it has more to do with israeli xenophobia and the fact we are not seen loyal to zionism. Israel never gives a good social position to a community which isn't loyal to its state ideology.
@Skrooge Lantay also, newcomers are seen as competotors by the locals. The locals are simply seeing us as a threat to their economical wellness. So the israeli aithorities sought to prevent us from the raising to good positions in a favour of israelis. And since there were many high-qualified workers from the former USSR, Israel was taking discriminative measures against them to eliminate competition
There's a brilliant 1990 Soviet movie called Passport that depicts this diasporas experiences
This was in 1991.
I remember it as a kid. This decade was worse of a worse for the Israeli economy.
Barbaric terror attacks, boycott, and etc.
And a million people came to Israel needed work and support on healthcare system.
We all faced hard life.
Don't get it wrong. I'm happy and proud they came to their their land.
But as part of the immigration we had to face difficulties. For us and for them.
Now they are well integrated. I really love them and they are my brothers and sisters.
@@candifloss Thank you. You too 🌷
Now it’s time for Ethiopians to face the same
@@air2091 No dear.
Ethiopian have face different difficulties.
Our economy much better, and one million people don't need jobs, housing, health, at the same time. When they don't speaking one word in Hebrew. And Israel didn't accepted their professional titles.
I don't claim we as a country make mistakes accepting new immediates.
And they have their difficulties.
Bit we are here to fix it.
I really believe with all my heart we are all brothers
@@roeyyehezkel9275 I am israeli too, Ethiopian Jews face discrimination here, it’s a sad truth. But slowly they are intergrating. It’s a system in israel. A new migrant population comes and then they inter marry and cause intergration
Tbh, what is 'their' land? These people have no connections to the state of israel since their very birth...
I know tons of Soviet Jews who migrated to Israel, and they are all great Patriots of Israel and happy about moving there.
True, lots of them had to work hard for a very small pay, especially in the beginning. Nevertheless, there are other advantages, non-materialist ones. The ones you won't understand.
The "promised land" and "the chosen peoples" is overrated and a lie.
It's just silly you know, how can western civilization who built advanced tech believe of this shit, It's ridiculous 😂. It's must have some interest of some group of people
Можете сделать продолжение? Найти этих людей или их потомков и узнать, что с ними сейчас, как сложилась их жизнь?
Better than modern day Russians.
@@malignm1857This is BS
Because 1million Jew still living in Russia
@@maks33111 million Jews in Russia ? Before the war, there were 140 thousand of them in Ukraine, and at the moment there are a maximum of 50 thousand.
:( makes me sad 😢 too much hate too much discrimination and why? What for? Can we just unite and be happy
The ruler of darkness have gone into the 🌍 and has infiltrated many ❤ and🧠.Jesus said 👉Love your neighbor 👈but many have refused to obey these commands and are suffering the consequences.God is❤💛💚🤍🇮🇱🇬🇧🇯🇲Shalom.
Thankfully we've integrated everyone for the most part, the only ones who we're still working on are the Ethiopians but in cities like BeerSheva they're doing great. We've really come a long way since 1991.
Tabris Hayayi What I find interesting is that.. Israeli unemployment rate as of this year is full employment rate at a rate of below 4% but unemployment rate among Arabs is 50% and they make up 20% of the population which doesn't make any sense
@@PeerKristijan Unemployment only counts people that are actively seeking employment. For the Arab sector about 60% of the women and 25% of males don't participate in the workforce, some are perhaps paid cash under the table and as such are registered as not working.
@@PeerKristijan Where did you get these numbers? Regarding 50% unemployment among Arabs?
Many people dream of a "Promised Land". Either keep dreaming, or get with the current world culture.
How about you keep your American privileged mouth shut?
@@desuno2609 How do people in communist and former communist countries get jobs? Are they just appointed to positions? Getting a good job is the hardest work one can do. It is a job in itself. Migrants to Panama and some other countries are not allowed to have jobs, unless they are self-employed by starting their own business.
I don't know who needs to know this, but the russian-english subtitles are pretty much reformulated to a point that in some occasions they say very different things.
E.g 4:16 the subtitles say "the worst feeling is that you are not needed" when in Russian he says "In my opinion, until now, there is not a governmental program, a real one (meaning that actually works"... and he proceeds with "...and the main principle here is that "the saving of the drowning is the job of the drowning", but maybe that's not the most important, but the most important is, there are no criteria so to say" (ends at 4:43). I guess they tried to make sense out of what they were saying, but it really sounds very different from the provided subtitles.
look now 8 years later....no video about that he`
@David the dogs bark but the caravan goes on
This was almost 30 years ago - the Russian Olim situation in Israel has changed. They are now quite accepted and successful. Every ethnic group in Israel has a hard time when they first emigrate there - the place is crowded, resources are limited and patience is short. Plus, there's always the danger of War or Terrorist attacks.
I wish to movie to isreal and learn about it's culture nd hebrew
they only pay the workers once a month and there isnt enough support for new immigrants and there arent good jobs unless you are born in israel and speak hebrew or arabic. sad it is a beautiful country and amazing food and life besides than and no the war is bad but there is a war in america everyday
How often would you like them to be paid ? Every 18 minutes ?
11:00 it will take 20 years from the date that question was answered....at the rate things are moving in 2020
This was in 2011. What is it now?Pl enlighten me,in India.
Some stayed and gave birth to another generation, some managed to return back or emigrate to another country, many are dead by now. As it was planned, israeli government succeeded in increasing jewish population percentage absolutely disregarding conditions it put immigrants in
Baptism doesn't pay as much but the fringe benefits are heavenly.
Amen to that they're eternal 🌌
ok boomer
@DivyaPreity4ever I'll translate the part i found to be translated the worst. Starting with the man at 4:14
His words: "Well i think there is still no real government program..... The most important principle here is "the saving of the drowning is the works of the drowning them selves" (sort of like blind leading the blind) , Well maybe thats not the most important thing.... The is just no criteria's in place
It's 100% different from what they sub-in
times has changed since then thankfuly
if you don't have the jobs for these people that they occupied in their former country, then why did you ask them to come at all???
that is my question.
I guess they were in need for cheap labour and human shields.
exactly
Ooooo vee got to pick a pocket or two !
RUclips just recommend this today!! Where is this video hiding??
that's the real question!! 2011 first recommendation... only this morning!!
I suspect there is a censprship on RUclips of videos which are not favorable for Israel. I know a guy here who is uploading humorous satiric videos in russian about his experience in Israel, and a bunch of his videos have been removed. He uploaded them again and they've been removed again
@@vladimirz3301 Of course RUclips or its employees are always removing videos which make the case "israel" problematic and indefendable! especially when it comes to their propaganda or the myth "Israel"
@@vladimirz3301 I have no comment on that, it's "suspected" but so far no hard evidence although any videos on anti semitism is most likely to be taken down, you just try upload any anti-Semitic video and we see how RUclips will react.
@@vladimirz3301 you just post the link when you do that and we'll see how long it takes to be taken down by RUclips..
9:26 for a writer he isn't very good at typing... In Sweden we call this the index finger waltz, in this case I guess it's the middle finger waltz.
look where his cursor is on the document, he is editing, he is adding a word to a sentence. when editing like that you tend to slow down a bit. for a criticizer you arent very good at observing ;))))
@@joeking5679 his hands aren't flush with the keyboard, it's like he's stabbing the keys with his fingers, it's just odd technique
@@F0nkyNinja im saying they only recorded him while editing. Not while writing a new section..people type different when editing, i do it too
I am shocked.
Things have improved drastically for Russian speaking Israelis. They're now in high government positions,lives slightly better than average Israelis
The Robin Williams movie "Moscow On The Hudson" is a perfect portrayal of what happens.
Moscow on Hudson created in 1985, = 40 years old movie made before perestroyka when the ussr was closed country. It not actual any more.
@@sidorenko368 What happens to the immigrant to the new country. In the old country he was a considered good saxophone player but when he arrived in NY and in one scene he is invited to play Jazz with American musicians, we see he isn't as good.
I agree with another guy. The translation is shit.
Remember the charity adds help send Jewish people back to Israel? Where's those donations?
I would donate money and run around and solicit the money of others on my bare naked knees if I had to, if I knew that for every hundred dollars at least one Jew has to leave my country. Sadly this is a scam.
If I was a young Jew I would certainly never even dream of going to Israel, just so I can clean the toilets of my betters. Because Palestinian hands are too filthy to touch where the chosen plant their naked asses.
Israel collected some 10 billion dollars of donations in USA in the late 80-s, officially for the absorption of jewish repatriants. Almost all of this sum was misteriously lost in the pockets of Israeli state officials.
@@vladimirz3301 lol
@@statinskill Wtf
@@statinskill start one yourself then
After the fall of Soviet Union 1992, im sure that leaving the Soviet Union was the best decision.
Well, but apparently not for Israelistan!!! BIG MISTAKE!!! And esp.lly if you were an Eastern European Jew!!!!
Going to Israel was a mistake
The Jew at 10:45 is a live meme. Surreal.
It was very hard moving to Israel from the Soviet Union in the early days. However, by far the best decisions we made in our lives. It's a shame that this documentary doesn't portray what the people said accurately, but also the comments that feel it continuing to justify their hate at the state of Israel. 1 million poor people had moved into a country of 6 million that was in the midst of an economic depression. Of course there were going to be problems related to cost of living, but in the end it all worked out.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1990s_post-Soviet_aliyah#Demographics
yup, more soviet people moved to israel in 1990 (1 year) than from 1970 to 1988 (18 years)
Exactly what I commented (I am a Russian Israel from 1992) this video is nonsense 😅
Change is always difficult.
That is like me cutting someones throat and as their blood leaves their body and pools on the floor I say, "change is always difficult".
Wow! What a disaster!
Unfortunately it is an established country. In an established if you don't speak the language and know the rules of the society is at a marked disadvantage.
Nobody said life in Israel was going to be easy for anyone immigrating to Israel. The business and service industries are competitive, with 50 overqualified people for the most introductory of jobs. That's why immigrating to a new country, any country, is often akin to starting your life over again. Not everyone survives, but that is life. Am Yisrael Chai.
These people had well-respected jobs and a career back in their home country Russia and they left it to work as maids and cleaners (with all due respect to all workers)... and what did the occupying zionist government of israel do to them? wish they stayed in Russia. Don't buy the shit saying they were treated badly in Russia. in the video professors and engineers are mentioned, how come they got high education and well-respected jobs if they were treated badly?
P.S. translation isn't fair, in the subtitles, people say a lot, and only one sentence is translated
Russians over all adapted well ,new neighborhoods,a good educational system,their children excelled in all fields,for a small country like israel ,to practically double its population from russian immigration, was a monumental feat ,israel and the Russian immigration today are stronger for it.
Soviet aloud everyone to get an apartment! Regulation is needed on apartments prices by law!
everywhere
Israeli government organized it in a such way to artifically inflate prices for apartments, and pegged apartments price to dollar course, to drive russian immigrants into poverty and debts. Building companies in Israel form a cartel which operates in aggreement with government, a total opposition to a free-market economy
apartments with 1 bathroom for the whole condominium.
BOTH JEWS AND MUSLIMS RESPECT A WEALTHY MAN AND NO ONE ELSE.
I suggest all those Israelies who are neglected by the israely government should raise voice & protest for their rights. World will support them.
Good documentary! Thank you very much.
idiot, this video is 33 years old
Today, Israeli top 20 economies in the world.
I keep hearing "the chosen ones". Chosen by who? No person is better than another regardless of race, culture, religion, economic status. I have much compassion and unconditional love. However, it seems that the effort to be recognized as entitled has brought hardship to some
SATAN HIMSELF. THAT'S WHO "CHOSE" THEM
Are they not loans so they can either retrain and start up their own businesses? This is shocking,.
The zionists lied to them
Zionists are the big liars and Israel is an empire of fraud and discrimination
They skunked them.
This is depressing.
Kiera:God has told you not to oppress the stranger because you were once strangers in Egypt,how much more you ought to welcome the children of Jacob.Jesus told story 👉The Prodigal Son who left home spent all his money fell on hard times and then decided to go back home.From a distance his father saw him ran to him hug him and held a feast for him.His brother seeing this got jealous and complain about it,his father replied you I have always but he was lost and and is found again.Encouraged the strangers treat them well.God is ❤🇮🇱🇬🇧🇯🇲
I think The Bing Bang Theory made a satire of this.
no doubt the IDF is waiting for volunteers
WHAT A SHAME THE SOVIETS ARE HIGHLY QUALIFIED AT ENGINEERING SCIENCE ISRAEL SHOULD AT LEAST GIVE THEM A CHANCE TO SHOW THEIR SKILLS I KNOW IF AMERICA TOOK IN THE SOVIETS THEY WOULD NOT BE TREATED THIS WAY
Shut up, moron.
@David I think you're confusing Russians with other groups of people, my dear ;)
Where the Bolshevic leaders not mostly Jewish?
The people of Britain are suffering too. Our immigration levels are far to high.
Yes, as were 80 percent of the Chekists who murdered many Christians!
They were all jews
Well..Britain got into bed with the Jews way back with their VOC and then their first central bank. You lie down with dogs you get up with fleas!
Daniel No they weren’t.
Death Larsen ok boomer
Extreeeeeme discount on Vampire Convention tickets, too, since there's no food.
Over a million Russian jews are thriving in Israel but the elderly obviously find it very hard to adapt
I heard that's why Iranian Jews are happy to stay where they are. Most of them have lived there for several tho years
@Hoàng Nguyên Says Vietnamese communist
Gina Kelley Those are Persian Jews NOT Russian Jews. Being a Jew is STRICTLY of faith and NOT race or ethnicity.
Bullshit. The vast majority of Iranian Jews (I know plenty) are doing very well in Israel and in the US. In Iran they have to live with endless "anti-Zionist" propaganda falling on their heads every day. Among other things.
13 Jews have been executed in Iran for being Jews (on false charges).
Stop lying.
@@Kurtlane stop lying.
@@kashmirimarez5500 No, you stop lying. Nice try.
Should stay in your home nations as the west is just propaganda.
I don't think Israel is the west, Israel is middle east
@@obigerald5834 This Is just hella funny
obi gerald it’s land stolen by the west and given t 2 terrorist organizations
I know I'm about 30 years to late to say it but Canada here is better. Alberta or Saskatchewan. We mine oilsand in northern Alberta and uranium in northern Saskatchewan. We have good strong unions. You would be welcomes as brothers. I know a few people here from siberia. We mine oilsand in the north and pipe diluted bitumen to Edmonton for refining or even some diluted bitumen pipelines to the American midwest for refining. We are in need of new pipelines the last ten years but due to polotics they have been blocked. So construction has halted. Now theres just maintenance and no construction boom but the industry survives. The uranium mines are a smaller industry ut it also survives. There is also diamond mines in the arctic wich is northwest territory. Kind of where the tree line ends and tundra begins.
Canada good country and good peoples but not future for kits ..border open terrorist it caming ..illiegals to..lots off refudgee getting everything free for years..Houses expensive..
@@olegmedvedovski8146 yes your right there. Its better futher north. More traditional up north in Canada. Small populations. The cities near the US border are very urban and politicized.
Remember "Soviet Jewry movement". Why the heck do you call citizens from other countries if you cannot provide them a decent lifestyle. Isnt that hipocracy?.
This is so old. This was happening immediately after the collapse of the USSR. They got free homes/apartments in the West Bank.
Absolute nonsense
I wish my parents got a free a home in the 90-s...
Absorbing millions of immigrants in one time is always tough on the economical situation of the country and the people themselves! Since then, the economy and the job market in Israel just got better and better over the years, and now the Jewish Russian immigrants from more than 30 years ago are already fully integrated and enjoy the freedom that Israel provides them today. Freedom and prosperity they will never have under Putin in Russia!!! Do the same interviews now, and you'll get a completely different picture!
You've made a really stupid statement because in Russia the Putin-loyal jews form the business elite, actually they are the wealthiest people in the state. As to common jews in Russia, they live without being persecuted or discriminated on basis of their religious/national identity, and are fully integrated to the russian society
@@vladimirz3301 , LOL!!!!! I wasn't talking about money... Russia is a dictatorship and has a long history of antisemitism! Jews didn't flee Russia by the millions and moved to Israel for no reason... Israel, with all their problems, is a free democracy. I'll choose living in Israel over Russia, and be poor there, ANY DAY!!!
@@vladimirz3301 Silly and ignorant since Putin did not rule Russia back in the early 90's.
@@GPBKM Russia is a dictatorship in the same way as Israel is a pseudo-democracy. It is a half-theocracy, half national-socialist state. Jews inder soviets were subject of the forcible assimilation, the situation has fully changed with dismantling of the communist system. In the post-Soviet Russia there has almost been no occurances of anti-jewish activity or discrimination, unlike to situation of the russian-speaking jews in Israel
Sad actually
it all became alright in the end
My heart breaks for my beautiful soviet Jews, that have ALREADY been through so much, a lifetime FULL of unspeakable pain. BUT I’m crying tears of joy.. bc I know this is an old video and thank the Lord that my fellow soviet Jews HAVE FOUND a place for themselves in Israeli society & world wide! And now they are THRIVING, and are finally recognized as an INVALUABLE ASSET, of culture, intellectualism, prosperity, etc. They are now leaders! Such a gifted and hardship-tested group! I’m proud as can be! 💕💕💕🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
They escaped the 90's of Russia, the '90s were terrible for most of the Russians. The collapse of the Soviet Union. Very high crime, people especially the elderly suffered from hunger in Russia. In Israel, they had a hard start but they did better than in the 90's Russia.
The people which engendred the war in Russia in the 90s, are the same people behind Isreal today
Not really did they better in Israel, but those who emigrated before august 1991 (when Soviet Union desintegrated) could't return back because Soviets had taken citizenship from them
The Ethiopian immigrants in israel really got the short end of the stick