Great side by side comparison, thank you! I was conflicted on which one of these to buy, but feel really happy with my Mood, and I agree, it’s beautiful inside and out. The things the Mood does…it’s almost hard to fathom that something like it was even built! Just did a video using the Mood and the Roland J6, really fun sounds and amazing to “experiment and tweak in real time with” from a performance POV. That being said, now you’re making me want to buy Onward as well!😂 The purchases are neverending!
Hard choice! While there is some overlap, neither can cover the other completely. In the end I kept the MOOD over the Onward because it fits my of what I’m wanting in that space. What are you looking to accomplish with one of these?
Great demo! I just received my onward today and first thing I did was plugged it into the mood mkii tons of fun and think theres enough difference to justify keeping both around
Interesting..I'm on the fence about the Onward still..it seems to me it has a lot of similarities to the Mood 2, just more variation in terms of glitch and techniques.. Especially the Envelope options.. whereas the Moods Looper side is not as variable as Onwards but you have the wet side , especially the Reverb which is glorious..It doesn't help that the Source Audio Artifakt is a beast of a lo fi pedal which I'm short of on my pedalboard..
It’s a dilemma for sure! MOODs reverb is awesome, and it can get gritty and lo-fi, just different than Onward. I’m not sure if Onward would satiate your desire for lo-fi. It’s very nice mind you, but lo-fi enough to cover that? Not sure…but MOOD also doesn’t meet my needs there. 🤔 …maybe an Artifakt is in my future 😎
@@patrickr6505 think you might get more mileage from the artifakt, the app heavy approach to SA pedals is something I struggled with, never wanted to plug it into my phone or computer and never felt like dedicating time to making presets, felt I was always underutilizing them, just a personal preference thing really, no denying that their pedals are unrivaled as far as versatility and what they can do. I’ve only scratched the surface of the onward so it’s a bit early to make any serious judgments but if you think the artifakt will scratch a bigger itch I’d definitely consider that route first
I amean, im already at the stage in my guitar playing life where every pedal on my board except tuner and amp sim are Chase Bliss. Including both the preamp mk2 and yhe cxm 1978. I dont need anymore CB stuff....... Do i?
Sometimes a quick test run is all you need! Or sometimes you need to give it another test and see. Either way trust your gut. You get to decide what brings you joy :)
Great presentation. I have a Mood Mk2 and an Onward on the way, so I'm excited to see how they play together. I guess you didn't play the Mood into the Onward until the very end, but I think I would have swapped the pedal order. The red-bearded guy from Chase Bliss said during that Q&A video that it should probably go early on in the chain, for the "best possible envelope tracking." It still sounded super good after the Mood either way.
You know, I’ve tried it both ways and I’m ok saying I didn’t like the MOOD after the Onward as much. Maybe with some different knob configurations I would. It felt too muddy to me with Onward first. 🤷🏻
@@thepedalcollaborative I could see how that could happen, because I also like having the Mood pretty early in my signal chain. I'll have to play around with it when mine comes in the mail.
@bw5260 totally! And granted, having a bigger signal chain calls for different thought process on placement. I will say Onward into LVX is a great combo!
@@thepedalcollaborative Oh, hard to say what to do next. Maybe explore the two (?) presets with which the CB pedals ship, or else the presets that you’ve saved (if any)? I don’t know that I’ve seen anyone demo the factory presets.
@@thepedalcollaborative I’ve also wondered what it would sound like to (carefully) feed Onward back into itself, since it doesn’t exactly have a built-in feedback or layers setting (which is kind of the whole point of Onward, I guess? It does crossfade older samples into newer samples, with longer Fade settings, I believe).
@PTguitars for sure! And to be fair, when I put the Onward first in the chain, I didn’t adjust the sensitivity, so perhaps that would change how I feel. Either way the Onward is a rad pedal and if you’re thinking about it, I say go for it!
@@thepedalcollaborative I have too many pedals already - but I feel something about the Onward - like I can already hear how I will use it. I am probably placing my order asap.
Mood is definitely prettier (inside and out), Onward is glitchier. I'd say Habit deserves a spot here, too. Doesn't get much cooler in terms of weirdness than CBA's recent work.
@DannyCruzCreations I’m of the opinion that MOOD is weirder than Habit. With Habit you can start out simple and dial in weirdness to taste as you get more comfortable. I sorta cover that in this video here: ruclips.net/video/SUcOFbJQhgc/видео.htmlsi=eUa7ad2b-K5ht6UM
I wasn’t expecting it to honestly. I was expecting them to compliment each other, which they do, but even when making this video I wasn’t 100% sure they’d dial up so closely. It’s great if you have a MOOD and like the glitchy Slip side but also want the delay or reverb from it.
Hey thanks! I’ve tried my hand at synths and it’s just not good. I can admit that. BBUUUUTTTTT good news is we’re expanding and synth videos will also be coming with the help of a good friend of mine. Also I’m assuming synth. Is there a different instrument you’re thinking?
@@thepedalcollaborative Yes of course! I sold my Chroma and bought an H90. I prefer H90. Surprised by sticky tape & cassette algos but I miss the Chroma's collage algorithm.
Thanks for doing this bro.. because I'm choosing between this and SA Artifakt..however for my particular pedalboard I have no lo fi options other than lo fi reverbs..but I have the Mood 2 and Particle 2..I feel there is still a lot of similarities/Overlap between both these pedals,.. Whereas the Artifakt can broaden my soundscapes and add more varying textures a bit more than the Onward (to my ears anyways..so I'm leaning towards the Artifakt at the moment..Il give it another couple of weeks to digest more demos and then pull the trigger....
@@thepedalcollaborative haha. this does everything I used mood for and more. I only used the right hand side of mood 1/2 in reality and this goes wilder with more options
I’ve not played with the Artifakt yet. I do know that I don’t really like Source Audio’s user interface, but that’s a personal thing. Sounds have always been fantastic that I’ve messed with.
@nickreesyt the right side??? Seriously I’m the opposite in the MOOD usually using the left side 😂 But I get what you mean about the Onward doing more in that realm. I’m really enjoying it thus far!
@@stephenvale937 No, I meant that Gibbson already has a 6 string guitar, why does it need 2 models that basically do the same thing. NOT SAYING MOOD and Upward are the same creatures, just same parents. And tell that SG quip to Zappa
Great side by side comparison, thank you! I was conflicted on which one of these to buy, but feel really happy with my Mood, and I agree, it’s beautiful inside and out. The things the Mood does…it’s almost hard to fathom that something like it was even built! Just did a video using the Mood and the Roland J6, really fun sounds and amazing to “experiment and tweak in real time with” from a performance POV.
That being said, now you’re making me want to buy Onward as well!😂 The purchases are neverending!
The purchases don’t ever end 😆
Super helpful demo. I’ll be honest…it’s a relief to hear a CB pedal I *don’t* want to buy 😅
😂 you know there are several CBs that I have no interest in, and I’m ok with that.
Glad this demo helped you save $400!
Yeah i’m going with both
Solid choice!! 🙌
Great video. which just confirmed my thoughts (for me) that onward is kind of a mood's preset :))
Definitely has that capability!
Thanks, really enjoyed the video but I still can't decide between the two!
Hard choice! While there is some overlap, neither can cover the other completely. In the end I kept the MOOD over the Onward because it fits my of what I’m wanting in that space.
What are you looking to accomplish with one of these?
Great demo! I just received my onward today and first thing I did was plugged it into the mood mkii tons of fun and think theres enough difference to justify keeping both around
Interesting..I'm on the fence about the Onward still..it seems to me it has a lot of similarities to the Mood 2, just more variation in terms of glitch and techniques.. Especially the Envelope options.. whereas the Moods Looper side is not as variable as Onwards but you have the wet side , especially the Reverb which is glorious..It doesn't help that the Source Audio Artifakt is a beast of a lo fi pedal which I'm short of on my pedalboard..
If you have the space I think there is definitely enough difference to justify keeping both!
It’s a dilemma for sure! MOODs reverb is awesome, and it can get gritty and lo-fi, just different than Onward.
I’m not sure if Onward would satiate your desire for lo-fi. It’s very nice mind you, but lo-fi enough to cover that? Not sure…but MOOD also doesn’t meet my needs there. 🤔
…maybe an Artifakt is in my future 😎
@@patrickr6505 think you might get more mileage from the artifakt, the app heavy approach to SA pedals is something I struggled with, never wanted to plug it into my phone or computer and never felt like dedicating time to making presets, felt I was always underutilizing them, just a personal preference thing really, no denying that their pedals are unrivaled as far as versatility and what they can do. I’ve only scratched the surface of the onward so it’s a bit early to make any serious judgments but if you think the artifakt will scratch a bigger itch I’d definitely consider that route first
@@thepedalcollaborative You know it bro..we are peas in a pod 😁
my advice would be to get them both, if you can, if not go with the Mood (mk2)
Great advice!
I amean, im already at the stage in my guitar playing life where every pedal on my board except tuner and amp sim are Chase Bliss. Including both the preamp mk2 and yhe cxm 1978. I dont need anymore CB stuff....... Do i?
If you need an encouraging hand to hold while you hit the order button, we can be that for you lol
Well I'll be no help in deciding which one you should keep (if that was ever a question). I just want a whole album of the exploration process 🤘
The exploration process is so much fun!!!
In my experience I liked the way mood plays with both sides than onward but to be honest I just gave it a quick subpar test run
Sometimes a quick test run is all you need! Or sometimes you need to give it another test and see. Either way trust your gut. You get to decide what brings you joy :)
Great presentation. I have a Mood Mk2 and an Onward on the way, so I'm excited to see how they play together.
I guess you didn't play the Mood into the Onward until the very end, but I think I would have swapped the pedal order. The red-bearded guy from Chase Bliss said during that Q&A video that it should probably go early on in the chain, for the "best possible envelope tracking." It still sounded super good after the Mood either way.
You know, I’ve tried it both ways and I’m ok saying I didn’t like the MOOD after the Onward as much. Maybe with some different knob configurations I would. It felt too muddy to me with Onward first. 🤷🏻
@@thepedalcollaborative I could see how that could happen, because I also like having the Mood pretty early in my signal chain. I'll have to play around with it when mine comes in the mail.
@bw5260 totally! And granted, having a bigger signal chain calls for different thought process on placement. I will say Onward into LVX is a great combo!
@@thepedalcollaborative Good to know!
I’m biased though on the LVX as all the presets I use are ones I’ve made. Makes me feel ownership in the sound of that makes sense
My hunch is …NO it can’t replace it but then again: the amount I’m using my GenLoss v1 since getting Lossy….
Right?!? Lossy is awesome!
I’m not sure the Onward is going to kick off my MOOD, but time will tell.
Yeah, fantastic video. Thanks for these!
You’re more than welcome! Glad you’re enjoying them…what should we do next?
@@thepedalcollaborative Oh, hard to say what to do next. Maybe explore the two (?) presets with which the CB pedals ship, or else the presets that you’ve saved (if any)? I don’t know that I’ve seen anyone demo the factory presets.
@chiefbucknell I haven’t saved any yet on the Onward, but could show the factory ones.
@@thepedalcollaborative I’ve also wondered what it would sound like to (carefully) feed Onward back into itself, since it doesn’t exactly have a built-in feedback or layers setting (which is kind of the whole point of Onward, I guess? It does crossfade older samples into newer samples, with longer Fade settings, I believe).
@chiefbucknell ooh interesting!! Sounds like a fun experiment!!
I would have swapped them around. Onward into Mood. I have the Mood 2 which I love to bits. Now I might order an Onward as well 😎
Personal preference. I actually don’t love Onward before Mood 🤷🏻
@@thepedalcollaborative You might be right - but it is worth a go
@PTguitars for sure! And to be fair, when I put the Onward first in the chain, I didn’t adjust the sensitivity, so perhaps that would change how I feel.
Either way the Onward is a rad pedal and if you’re thinking about it, I say go for it!
@@thepedalcollaborative I have too many pedals already - but I feel something about the Onward - like I can already hear how I will use it. I am probably placing my order asap.
@PTguitars there you go! I’m excited to hear how you use it
Mood is definitely prettier (inside and out), Onward is glitchier. I'd say Habit deserves a spot here, too. Doesn't get much cooler in terms of weirdness than CBA's recent work.
Absolutely Habit should get a spot here! It definitely gets into that same glitchy space. Hmm…maybe another video to bring Habit into the picture
I kinda want a Habit, but I feel the MOOD MKII is as weird as I'll go.
@DannyCruzCreations I’m of the opinion that MOOD is weirder than Habit. With Habit you can start out simple and dial in weirdness to taste as you get more comfortable. I sorta cover that in this video here:
ruclips.net/video/SUcOFbJQhgc/видео.htmlsi=eUa7ad2b-K5ht6UM
I'm getting ready to fire up my chase bliss mountain and play with onward in a bit!
Can’t wait to hear it! You have such a nice collection :)
Interested in where you’re going to put the Onward in your chain
@@thepedalcollaborative It's the first in line for right now.
Can’t wait to hear it!!
do you buy both? or CB send them to u? cheers
I bought them both. Currently no companies have given me pedals because of this channel. I wish they would! 🤣
@@thepedalcollaborative you deserve it. such a great channel!
that's very kind of you! Thanks so much for the kind words :)
I had no idea the Onward would compete with the Mood
I wasn’t expecting it to honestly. I was expecting them to compliment each other, which they do, but even when making this video I wasn’t 100% sure they’d dial up so closely. It’s great if you have a MOOD and like the glitchy Slip side but also want the delay or reverb from it.
@@thepedalcollaborative this. pretty shockingly unexpected. esp. sustain vs stretch + great demo, as always. pity you only do guitars ;)
Hey thanks! I’ve tried my hand at synths and it’s just not good. I can admit that. BBUUUUTTTTT good news is we’re expanding and synth videos will also be coming with the help of a good friend of mine.
Also I’m assuming synth. Is there a different instrument you’re thinking?
@@thepedalcollaborative really trying to talk myself out of pedals, your channel doesn't help. Jokes. Another great vid man 👍👍
@noveltycrusade my hope is it helps you make more informed decisions so you can spend less time and money hunting. Buy right buy once!
no but it will make me replaced my power supply so i can power both
lol probably! What power supply do you have? Is it time for an upgrade?
Which one is closer to 'Collage' function in Chroma Console?
Great question! I’d have to say that MOOD probably does “Collage” better 😎
@@thepedalcollaborative Thank you very much!!!
Hope that helps!
@@thepedalcollaborative Yes of course! I sold my Chroma and bought an H90. I prefer H90. Surprised by sticky tape & cassette algos but I miss the Chroma's collage algorithm.
@thaloloom I hear amazing things about the H90!!!
Mood gone onward in
😳 wow!!! I’m a tad shocked! Say more things!
Thanks for doing this bro.. because I'm choosing between this and SA Artifakt..however for my particular pedalboard I have no lo fi options other than lo fi reverbs..but I have the Mood 2 and Particle 2..I feel there is still a lot of similarities/Overlap between both these pedals,.. Whereas the Artifakt can broaden my soundscapes and add more varying textures a bit more than the Onward (to my ears anyways..so I'm leaning towards the Artifakt at the moment..Il give it another couple of weeks to digest more demos and then pull the trigger....
@@thepedalcollaborative haha. this does everything I used mood for and more. I only used the right hand side of mood 1/2 in reality and this goes wilder with more options
I’ve not played with the Artifakt yet. I do know that I don’t really like Source Audio’s user interface, but that’s a personal thing. Sounds have always been fantastic that I’ve messed with.
@nickreesyt the right side??? Seriously I’m the opposite in the MOOD usually using the left side 😂
But I get what you mean about the Onward doing more in that realm. I’m really enjoying it thus far!
Moodward…
Is it Moodward or Onmood? 🤷🏻
Chase Bliss has lost me with the glitch BS... Mood and Dark World were their last usable pedals, IMO...
The Mood can be very glitchy though!
I hear you. Not every release will be a home run for everyone. Excited to see what they have coming down the line
And while you're at it, have Gibson get rid of the SG because they still have the Les Paul...
On it!
You say this like its a bad thing?
It's all in the name.. SG = S hit G uitar
@@stephenvale937 No, I meant that Gibbson already has a 6 string guitar, why does it need 2 models that basically do the same thing. NOT SAYING MOOD and Upward are the same creatures, just same parents. And tell that SG quip to Zappa
No fighting y’all 😂