Aemon Targaryen reveals his identity to Jon Snow
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- Опубликовано: 23 мар 2012
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Aemon Targaryen - Maester of the night's watch - talks Jon Snow into making the biggest decision of his life as he reveals his identity to him.
Aemon - who once was offered the crown, but refused - is uncle to Aerys II Targaryen (the mad king) and grand-uncle to Viserys and Daenerys Targaryen. 
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Maester Aemon, the only man in the series to die of old age. Absolute legend.
Kat's father also died of natural causes
@@Bill-en7kw We never saw him alive though. Technically Mellisandra would be the other example.
actually, there is also a half-brother of the grandfather of Maester Aemon alive in the series! Plus, the television adaptation removed Jaehaerys, in the book Jaehaerys is the nephew of Aemon and the father of the mad king
This show used to be so good. So good. It is really hard to believe George hasn’t finished Winds in over 11 years.
@@mripwntheworld for one her dead is an artifact of the show. She hasn’t died yet in the book series. Also, can one be said to die of natural causes if they were only alive by unnatural means?
This should be titled "Jon Snow chats with his great great uncle"
@Zoedog nah great great uncle since aemon was aerys uncle
TheAkmur in the books even his great great great uncle, as he was the great uncle of the mad king
@@gidijonen7966 jesus how fucking old is this dude
@@TheAkmur Somewhere near 100 in the books (102 I guess) and also back in those days , people wed and had children at 16-20 so that's almost 4 generations between him and Jon Snow.
Rather „Aegon Targaryen chats with his great great uncle”
It’s so heartbreaking that Aemon died bitter that he couldn’t serve Daenerys, not knowing that Rhaegar’s son was right in front of him.
I never put it in that perspective. Beutiful commentary on the scene
And he goes on to kill her 🥹🥹🥹
He knew it all
@@Guy-lo3th choosing duty over love. It’s very poetic seeing Jon take Aemon’s advice from this scene.
@@Guy-lo3th she deserved it
This scene becomes even more epic when you know that they are both Targaryen.
And that the children maester Aemon talks about are Jon's half siblings
@@lisahuber9329 wowww
So Master Aemon is John's great uncle?
@@matthewvisnaw4306 yes
I was reading the comments waiting for someone to remark on this part! Well said!
It sucks that Daenerys never got to meet Aemon.
P3891 truee
I hope there will be a little scene with Jon telling Daenerys about Maester Amon
@@edith1315 Nope, that is impossible. All dialogue and good writing has been pushed out of a tower (pun intended) in favour of sh*t writing that 'SuBvERtS OuR EXPecTatiOnS' ffs. Seasons 1-5 were so good :-(
@@edith1315 there is not
It's all flashy battles and actions now. Not time for personal exchange of dialogues. Everything needs to be rushed unfortunately because they were given choice of 10 episodes but they said 6 is enough.
Jon Snow's face when he realizes who Aemon is. Hahaha looks like he just saw a rare trading card. Lmao
Adrian Gofredo He didn't realize anything,he knows nothing ! He is Jon Snu !
Adrian Gofredo He didn't realize anything,he knows nothing ! He is Jon Snu !
Doctor Thrax hes junsnoh
Adrian Gofredo A super rare trading card? That sounds vague enough to be Aemon Targaryen.
Antiphilosopher he opened his booster pack threw away his Joffery Card he got from it, was flicking through and saw the Silver Background, Aemon Targaryen card, one of the rarest of the cards in the Game of Thrones.
John Snow- "Nobody understands the pain I feel!"
Aemon Targaryen- "Hold my family tree"
Our family tree perhaps
family wreath more like it 💀@@charankumar9897
I died 😂
More like “family ladder” 😬
what family tree
He died of natural causes in GOT and in real life at 93 years old back in 2016. What a legend, rest in peace
Peter Vaughan, loved him in Porridge and Time Bandits back in the day.
A year after the character died. They were lucky they didn't have to let Aemond die off screen. Respects to the actor Peter Vaughan, this was his final credit.
Rest in peace 🙏🏾
@@eirikweggadidn't aemon and bloodravin actors made a movie together back in the day too? Is that right?
When he talks about them murdering the children, you can see that, even old and blind, hes still a dragon
Once a dragon, always a dragon. I mean we were robbed of him and Daenerys not meeting. But still, he was absolutely amazing.
Aemon would have carried out some serious vengeance if he had been there.
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@@nou5090 If u do not care it doesnt mean nobody cares🙄
@@thetechtube3786 well i dont see anyone replying with nice vid or anything on this one
Just imagine how peaceful Westeros would be if Aemon would have accepted the throne..
The night king would still be a thing though
@@kiljeaden767 send some faceless men after him,..i hear they are quiet good at handling such creatures^^
True... Jaehaerys marrying his sister never should've been an issue, and Aerys's birth as well wouldn't have mattered since he probably never would've been king. All because of what happened with Maekar and Aegon V's kids
@@OkaNieba do they all know teleport no jutsu?
@@kiljeaden767 if Arya, as a newly trained one can do it,...the senior anbu can do it, for sure^^
The look in Aemon’s eyes when he said “I am a Maester of the citadel bound in service to castle black.” Always gets me. How many times did he have to say those words. Words he used to say with pride…words he still does.
How does a blind man have a look in his eyes
@@LesserOfTwoWeevils ... *facepalms*
@@LesserOfTwoWeevils bruh
@@LesserOfTwoWeevils Because you'd be the one looking at him, genius.
His body language is for you - the viewer - not for himself.
.... You genius, you.
@@LesserOfTwoWeevils lol you're not the brightest one in the bunch are you?
The fact that all those years later, being old and have served at Castle Black for a very long time already - he still got so angry about the children in his family that were murdered, shows Aemon had a huge capacity for love and kindness
In the books he actually gave his brother Egg an extra horse when he was squiring with Dunc despite maesters usually having to ignore familial ties
@@brigidmadden5577 it was a donkey I think. They named it Maester in honor of Aemon
he’s still blood of the dragon
"Even the children! They killed the little children!"
Rip Aegon and Rhaenys Targaryan and of course Elia Martell, they all deserved better.
@Baz H actually there.were some good Targaryen kings, the worst.were aerys II(the mad king), maegor and Aegon. Iv
Sounds like when jon was questioning dany at the end of the series
Baz H lmao there were only 3 mad targaryens if not 4.
@Baz H of course they did???? they were only children. Rhaenys was 3 and I think Aegon was just a newborn.
Baz H not Elia
So at the end Jon became exactly what Aemon was. A Targaryen who refused the throne and went North. Such an amazing scene.
The show really lack of explaining something meaning
Don't think you can say that, the show didn't give Jon a choice to choose because the council in episode 6 decided to send Jon to the wall.
@@coo3disk1 yeah but if he said the world all of them will have to obey its not a choice
@@hamzaal-qaisiah1351 LMFAO you really do not get it
coo3disk1 Jon’s main conflict was killing the woman he loved for duty, it was never about the throne at all, he had to live with regicide out of duty, no matter what the costs was, even if it meant rejoining the nights watch
“I was helpless. Blind. Frail. But…”
Something SO SIMPLE as a dreadful, simmering delivery of a conjunction, hinting a turn of resolute sentiment… that moment in his monologue STILL gives me chills
In viserys own word's "Do not awaken the dragon"
I'm not Jesus.
He still had his fire
The fact that the massacre of the targaryens happened so long ago but still made a calm old man who is ready to die visibly seething with rage showed that the choice Aemon made for the watch was very difficult.
Jon made the same choice later in his life. And I'm sure he remembered Aemon's counsel when he did.
They age the characters up a few years in the show so I'm not sure of the dates, but in the book, this conversation happens when Jon is 14 and Aemon is 100.
So yeah 14 years ago to a 100-year-old is basically like yesterday.
Jon’s entire arc is driven by this scene.
Well yeah the way they slaughted the Targaryen children was crazy, I understand why they did it not saying I wouldn't of but the one kid they found cowering under his bed hiding and still put to the sword Elia martell and what not, it was brutal
@@ClownScriptIf only the dragons were still alive .The traitors would have been on the receiving end instead
Anyone else get chills from this scene? Aemon is so epic.
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Hazel Awesome actor!
Dudes so cool it's unreal
When Aemon asks what Ned would do if he had to choose between love and honour, we have the answer. Ned decided to confess himself as a traitor for the sake of his daughters. Ned chose to tell the lie that he fathered a bastard in order to protect his sister's son.
Maz Amd that's why eddard stark will always be loved
Agreed, hence the question "what is honor?". Love is the death of duty, Aemon says. Ned, who would have never lied, actually did what he thought was right which was lie and dishonor himself; all for the love of his family.
Aemon is absolutely right. It's easy when there's only one choice. Honor or Love/Family. That's when it gets messy. The night my daughter was born I was racially profiled by the cops when they pulled me over at 2am trying to get to a food drive-thru because I was hungry and exhausted and could finally leave her side when my wife was dilated enough to get an epidural so that she wasn't in pain anymore. They pulled me over because I had a hood on while driving, and I wasn't white. They gave me some bullshit story about improper lane change and when they figured out I wasn't the thug they thought I was they gave me a lame excuse. I was cussing at them the whole time. I told myself that I would never let cops railroad me like that. When I refused to sign they said sign it or get arrested. I had a choice, stand up for myself, or be there for my wife and new family. Of course I chose my family, and had to pay the ticket eventually. I was so mad. But I did the right thing. If I stood up only for myself, I wouldn't have been there for the birth of my daughter and I wouldn't have been there for my wife.
Technically , he promised his sister for the child's safety, and hold true to his words.
the maester got it wrong, ned wasnt one in ten thousand. he was one in ten million
I love how in the earlier seasons Jon really shows his younger side thinking no one could possibly understand and Aemon really shuts him down, it’s tragically beautiful and shows Jon that his problems aren’t the only issues of the world while reinforcing a discussion about responsibility
And the look on his face when it clicks and he figures out who the old fellow is... I wonder if he thought back on Aemon's words, "Duty is the death of love" when confronted with the choice Tyrion lays on him in King's Landing
this scene also showed Jon that there was someone else who went through something similar
@@mrz80I mean, he says those exact words to Tyrion in that scene.
@@theorangeturtle3683 That's true. "Duty is the death of love." I wonder now, if at least among the nobility, that might actually have been a bit of a common phrase, as nobles would more often than not marry for political or social advantage, certainly not for something as ephemeral and selfish (consider Tywinn constantly berating his children to place the family first) as "true love" .
For people who want to know how they are related: Aemon is the brother of Aegon V, whose son was Jaehaerys II, whose son was Aerys II, known as the mad king, whose son was Prince Rhaegar, whose son was Jon Snow. That means Aemon is Jon’s great great great uncle. Incidentally, King Robert is also Aemon’s great great nephew, through his niece Rhealla, making Jon Snow and Bobby B Second cousins once removed.
But they made a mistake, right? Aemon doesn't mentions Jaehaerys II Targaryen who reigned after Aegon V and then came Aerys II aka the mad king
@@nageri for some unknown reason, D&D wanted to simplify it, and for some ungodly reason that meant removing one king. Admittedly Jaehaerys II reigned for under 3 years, so he’s essentially pointless, but still.
It might just be script changing to make it a more emotional moment. At the end of the day, it was an unnecessary move probably a petty power move.
@@mossy642 Is this guy in House of the Dragon, or different Aemon?
@@mick9708 this is GoT but obviously ties back to HoD.
@@mick9708 different Aemon. Maester Aemon is Rhaenyra and Daemon’s great great great grandson, through their second child, Viserys.
RIP Peter Vaughan. Your watch has ended...
Aemon was a mothefucking badass. He wasn't a boss, he was THE boss. Even if he was blind he was epic. Amazing in each of his scenes. "He was the blood of the dragon."
Lord Beerus im lord beerus
Rest In Peace
A fabulous actor, what a great turn he gave as Maester Aemon
"I could have been king, but instead, I chose to be the Birdman of Canadian Alcatraz." - Aemon Targaryen
"And instead of bedding countless courtesans and tavern wenches, I beat off into a burlap dust rag. Quite frequently. All day long, in fact. But, as my new personal steward, you must learn to live with that...as I have."
This comment killed me!! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!
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@@qianli4813 Still Epic Comment even after 8 years
One of the saddest parts of GoT is when Aenon is dying and he says: "Egg. I dreamt I was old."
I cried like a baby on that one
I JUST read that part like an hour ago, book 4.
I can't even imagine the guilt Aemon must have felt. Not just that when the targaryens were massacred, he could do nothing to help them, but knowing that if he had chosen not to abdicate, he could have prevented all of it, even the tragedy of summerhall.
What even happened?
@@Gutssssss666Aemon was the eldest of House Targaryen. The mad Kings uncle. He didn’t want the throne so he abdicated. Then he joined the citadel so that he wouldn’t be used as a political pawn against his brother. After that he joined the Nights watch with his uncle Bloodraven.
Had he not abdicated then the tragedy of Summerhall would’ve never happened. And Aerys would not be King. Rickard and Brandon Stark wouldn’t have been murdered. And Roberts Rebellion wouldn’t have happened.
@@MoJones9919 No, Aemon was his father’s third son and he’s not the Mad King’s uncle. He was the brother of the Mad King’s grandfather. They made the change in the show but Aegon wasn’t Aerys’s father but grandfather. It goes Maekar (father of Aemon), Aegon (brother of Aemon), Jaehaerys (nephew of Aemon) then Aerys.
@@MoJones9919 Mad King's great uncle, and he never abdicated as he was never king. He joined the citadel because his Grandfather, King Daeron II forced him to as 'too many dragons are as dangerous as too few' - there were a shit load of Targs at this point. His dad Maekar protested again it to no avail, and at the time Aemon was very very very far down the line of succession so was never likely to become king anyway.
Much later on after his father who is at this point King Maekar dies, he is quietly offered the throne but as a Maester he declines so Aegon V becomes king. He then joins the Night's Watch to be as far away as possible and doubly vowed against marriage/inheritance, etc. Aegon V was known as 'Aegon the Unlikely' due to being the fourth son of a fourth son to King Daeron II.
There is a lot of speculation that Daeron II's bastard half-brother, Bloodraven (who later becomes the three-eyed-crow) caused the deaths which allowed Aegon V to become King, as he was a likely practicer of magic through his Valyrian and First Men combined dna, very into his prophecies, and held a lot of power as Hand of the King. He may have known that the 'prince that was promised'/song of ice and fire line had to be through Aegon V.
@dmcboi He literally says in this video "I refused the throne." There were a ton of Targs, but his two older brothers had died, and he was next in line for the throne. Instead of taking it, he abdicated
"Love is the death of duty"
The day did come when Eddard Stark had to choose between his honor and those he loved. He chose his sister over his honor. He chose to cradle the young Targaryen boy as his bastard, making everyone think he had betrayed his wife, that he had forsaken his sacred vow of marriage. All for the love he felt for his sister.
And later he declared himself a traitor to protect his family again...what a character
I think it was Glidus (could be wrong though) who made a very cogent argument that Ned's primary concern was for his family, not his honour. For example, he was willing to lie to protect his daughters. He was a family man, first and foremost.
Ned did take Jon in out of love for Lyanna. But, after what happened to Rhaegar and Elia’s children, he wasn’t going to allow any more children to be killed. That’s why he tried to save Cersei’s children. Honour takes people in strange directions.
Very badly written 8th season . Can you imagine jon snoas half stark half targaryan...we would have 4 bad ass seasons
"He'd do whatever was right..no matter what."
Spoilers:
Aemon is essentially the only character in the show that dies of natural causes.
Ain't that the sad truth.
The Chairman at the age of 102 in medieval times now aint that inpressive
Jude Maxwell
Hell yeah it is lol. Especially considering the realm he's in.
The Chairman Not quite. Hoster Tully died from old age too, so natural causes, no foul play. He was not as old as Aemon though.
MrKisameHoshigaki
I mean he's one of the few to survive for so long that was also a big part of the show.
Love how Aemon is not being dramatic or mysterious when he "refuses" to answer Jon's question at 2:43. He is giving the most direct answer he can, the one that Jon wants: his father and brother were Targaryens, but HE is not Aemon Targaryen. He is a maester of the citadel, bound in service to castle black and the night's watch.
Jon would've thought he was being cryptic had he truthfully answered with that or "Aemon".
A blind, dying Dragon having a moment with A young Dragon who thought he was a Wolf.
But... when I heard they killed my brother's son, and his poor son and the children. Even the little children! shivers everytime
+Nunya Yeah, Aemon would have unleashed some serious vengeance if he had been in charge.
Such an awesome performance.
+Mr Rakan he only told Jon because he knew he was blood
His fore son* he was talking about his brothers grandchildren.
And how the hell would he know that? Some sort of Targaryen tingly senses?
Aemon had the most peaceful death in the show
Steven Lovejoy He deserved a peaceful death after everything he lived through.
Olenna Tyrell too
*only
Steven Lovejoy in the books it was the saddest death
Only him
Cruel is the fact that Jon doesn’t even know Aemon is his uncle, but according to the book Aemon travels to Bravos to help Daenerys, the news about the last Targaeryan alive made him happy and stronger 😊👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
It's plausible that Benjen not only knew, but told Aemon of Jon's true parentage
@@JonDundas10I personally choose to believe this, I feel like Ned would’ve trusted Benjen enough, especially since Jon was headed for the wall.
10 years later and still chills every time. God I miss when this show was good.
at least house of dragons isnt horrendous like the last seasons of Got.
@@Jebu911 lol how low your standards have fallen
@@MCmao season 1 of hotd is slow sure but it's not bad tv when the dance starts in the second season trust me it will match peak GOT
This is what makes the decline after Season 5 so awful. Plotlines and character arcs just tossed aside, simplified. Horrible.
Now that the series is over and Jon is back in the Nights watch, the parallels between him and Aemon are glaring. Both rightful heirs, both bound by service.
Ramsay Bolton there isn’t a nights watch anymore, that’s just what they told greyworm so he would think Jon was being punished by being banished there and leave to go to nath with his people. Jon gets to be free like he always wanted to be to go north of the wall with the free folk. Atleast that’s the way I interpreted it
@@jeremyroberts8822 he didn`t lie jon was wearing the night watch clothes and u can see some of them there .. it not the same anymore cuz they have no enemy to fight or so mean it a place to send ppl who are no longer have place in the seven kingdoms ... in the end jon lost his birth name family home rights and can never set foot again the seven kingdoms
You know how it should have ended? Grey Worm doesn't misteriously forgive Jon, they fight, and Jon loses, obviously, and Grey blinds him in the two eyes with a horizontal slice of his spear. Then he comes back to the watch.
It would have been beautyfull.
Yannick Khalil fuck no, that is terrible
@@yannickkhalil3355 What would of been good if at the end the camera pans in on bran in the wheelchair and his eyes turn blue (whitewalker eyes) that would of been an awesome cliff hanger
If Jon was that shocked when he realised maester aemon was a targaryen, imagine his reaction when he find out he is not only a targ too but also the very product of the events maester aemon was talking about? lol I can't wait!
+dorothy Nunez Nah, Jon can't be a Targ. I still believe he is Robert Baratheon's son
Jay Bal huh? how could that be possible?
dorothy Nunez The show does a pretty good job with providing striking similarities with it's characters such as the Lannister family with it's golden hair. If you look closely at Robert and Jon their black hair and facial hair provide a striking resemblance, as for Jon's mother, it could be Lyanna Stark herself, maybe she said something to Ned but didn't truly reveal it was Robert's son for unknown reasons. On one hand, my personal theory is, he is Robert and Cersei's only true son. Remember the scene where Cersei recounted about her newborn with Robert and that it had his hair? But the baby somewhat died (Cersei may have deviced a plan to get rid of the baby, since she never loved Robert and probably didn't want his children), in which I don't believe it to be the case, since the baby is actually Jon Snow. If you do the math, in terms of years dating from Robert's rebellion towards the start of season 1, it does coincide. If this theory is true, then Jon is the true heir to the Iron Throne.
Jay Bal I see no sense in ned hiding jon from robert though. Lyanna was the only person robert ever loved, he would be put jon in a pedestal if he knew he was his son. There's no sense in keeping this from robert. Also, rhaegar probably died and lost the war because he left his best guards posted on the tower of joy where lyanna was being kept. arthur dayne was a kingsguard anyway. He had no business in that tower. He should be protecting the mad king or rhaegar. He said himself had he been on the trident rhaegar wouldn't die. He was there to protect something way more important and we all know how obsessed rhaegar was about the prophecy.
+Jay Bal No, it's pretty obvious Jon is a Targaryen, Rhaegar and Lyanna's son. Someone like Ned isn't the type to have a bastard son, but that was the only way he could ever protect Jon, otherwise he would have been executed for who he was. Ned planned to tell Jon the truth before he died.
2:28 I adore the change in Peter Vaughan's face and voice as he remembers the massacre that befell his family. The low growl of his voice, the rage in his eyes.
Even blind and toothless, a dragon still rumbled in Maester Aemon, and Jon saw a little of the burning rage of a dragon right here.
We shall never see his like again. Rest in peace, Peter Vaughan. 4 April 1923 - 6 December 2016.
possibly the best scene in the entire show, humbled Jon hard and made him realise he needs to protect his new family
Aegon and Aemon Targaryen talking about their family.
In the books, Aemon wanted to go to Essos to counsel Daenerys and teach her about dragonlore. He never did because he died on the way to Oldtown. Imagine if Daenerys had him by her side. Not just as an adviser, but as a father-figure. Daenerys would've loved her so much.
He was just too old unfortunately
That shit makes me so sad
@@Lalvon_Zelpharr Meryn trant agrees.
@@finnheisenheim8274 damn XD
@@srsieg1155 same, but i was waiting for sam to meet dany in the books as aemon talks about dany to Sam most of the time. Saying she was the azor ahai but damn george rr martin for not finishing the books! 🤣
"We all do our duty when there's no cost to it, honor comes easy then" that relates to how people treat Jaime's choice and brand him kingslayer. Those judging him have never been put in a position where their honor is challenged. The cost of Jaime's honor all the lives he saved in KL that night.
well the those people even Ned didn't know the reason jaime kill the mad king the only person knows that is brienne.
After the defeat of the white walkers.And every one celebrating the win!.I think Jaime just loved being one of the guys that night.
Rip Peter Vaughan. His portrayal of Aemon was unbelievable. You can hear in Aemon voice that he loved his nephew(Grand-nephew in the books, show removed Jaehaerys II). He was blood after all, regardless of his madness. I would have loved to see him interact with Daenerys as her last living relative. Her Great Uncle(GG Uncle in the books) was raised to be a king, after all.
“What could I do? Blind and frail? But when I heard they killed the children....”
This is Aemon basically saying that, even at 80~ years old, completely blind and helpless, he still seriously considered riding south to deliver an ass whooping to Robert and the small council.
I want a series about a younger Aemon... 😭
Maybe in the house of dragons
100 years old or something in the books.
@@bhartiya2859 lmao aemon wasnt alive during the dance, not even close
@@ShadeStormXD oh right
I wish he did, Robert was an idiot and Tywin was a brut
Could you imagine how much history would have changed if HE had taken the Iron throne.
Jon would be a king/prince right now
Pretty much an historic parallel with what if Otto Habsburg did ascend tot he throne in 1918. He would have reigned for 80 YEARS.
No Jon wouldn't be king. Jon is from Egg's line. If Aemon became king we would follow his line.
+Ethan Cann Jon likely would never have been born. Because rheagar probably wouldn't have
So much death and blood could of been avoided if he just taken the crown.....
Kit Harrington's acting is fantastic in this scene. The look of being totally stunned... seeing the knowledge and realizations sinking in real deep and it shows on his face. Awesome to watch!
"Kit Harrington's *beauty* is fantastic in this scene." (ftfy)
What really breaks my heart in this scene is Aemon's regret. He wished he had ridden when the Targaryens were overthrown but by then it was already too late. He wasn't scolding Jon into keeping his honour, he was making sure Jon understood the stakes so he could make his own decision. Would he choose his honour and live the rest of his life in regret? Or would he choose his family and forever be an oathbreaker?
And now his watch has ended
R.I.P. Peter Vaughan
"He was the blood of the dragon." A badass dragon. Aemon was the boss. Badass to the end, even in senile blindness.
He should have received an Emmy nomination for this scene alone.
Master Aemon didn't realize that the egg was with him all along. "Aegon Targaryen, heir to the Iron Throne"
I'm hoping in the books that if Jon is given a Targaryen name it is Aemon, as Rhaegar already had a son named Aegon. I think that this man deserves a namesake. Maybe in Jon's first born if not him
Chris G Sigh..... Rhaegars son.... is Jon Snow.... Aegon Targaryen
What you said has nothing to do with what i said, or the original comment. You condescending moron :)
Chris G you said Rhaegar already had a son named Aegon, and that son named Aegon is Jon Snow
I said, and let me quote myself even though the text is right there for you, "IN THE BOOKS"
This scene even after so many years breaks my heart . Master Amon died not knowing that Rhaegar’s son was in front of him … the true heir of the Iron Throne ..
You can't say he was the true heir. The Baratheon has disposed the Targaryen dynasty so stannis is the true king and Shireen is the heir. In order for the Targaryen to take the throne back, they need to fight and kill each Baratheon including Gendry to dispose the Baratheon's dynasty
@@elisahiichan3147 Robert was chosen explicitly because he had closer familial ties to the Targaryens than any other high lord in the seven kingdoms, as Aegon V's great grandson. The Targaryens still very much had a rightful claim to the throne, at least according to the maesters who chose Robert to be king
@@splaar well yeah but that shit was just formality Robert took the throne through right of conquest just as aegon the Conqueror did
@@splaar the baratherons are a bastard house of the targaryens right?
@@3nnik Yes, but that's not what they were going by when Robert was chosen to succeed Aerys II. They were going by his much more recent lineage, as his grandmother was the daughter of Aegon V, and aunt by blood to the Mad King. If they had to go back to the conquest to prove Robert's legitimacy, first, it wouldn't because like you said, Baratheon was originally a bastard line and second, some other family would be able to claim legitimacy from some marriage that was more recent than the conquest.
Man, the look in John’s eyes when the realization hits him. What an amazing overlooked scene!
2:38
Aemon is such a pure and good character, hearing his voice break in anger, was probably one of the strongest moments for me early on in the show.
Rip Peter Vaughan
Rewatching for the umpteenth time and this moment still gives me chills
@@stilzkin77 they skipped a generation
But how the aemond eye came back🤔🧐🧐
@@anshumansingh1907 nigga, what?
@@anshumansingh1907 not sure if its a joke or not, but the aemond in house of the dragon is like 100 years older than Aemon in this scene(different names). they are about 5 generations apart.
What is honor compared to a womans love? - Rhaegar loved Lyanna
And what is duty against the feel of a newborn son in your arms? - Jon's birth
Or a brother's smile? - Ned and Lyanna in Tower of Joy
I dig this but the last one doesn't fit. Ned didn't smile at the best of times, he certainly didn't there.
I'm fun at parties.
He was refering to his own brother, Aegon.
@@shadowboxing7029 He did actually; When he told Lyanna he was right here. It was brief, but hey...
@@perryjoseph616 That was a smile? Looked like a grimace lol.
He basically explained the theme of the entire show in one scene
The way he says “when I heard they killed the children” you can clearly see the rage. that he, even at this age, is still a dragon.
Man Aemon had him here. Knew exactly how Jon felt. The lesson he’d learned about duty is as hard as man will learn in life.
This is beautifully acted. The switch in Aemon's emotions from the slight laugh to the revelation of his lineage is brilliant. That is a veteran actor. Perfectly voiced, perfectly acted. Bravo.
+Samuel Ana Agreed. He stole every scene he was in in season 4. Great actor.
+Samuel Ana He's certainly doing well since he got of Slade prison (BBC sitcom Porridge)
good point.
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This is the most loving gift Maester Aemon could have given Jon. For one, I doubt that anyone other then Commander Mormont knew exactly who Maester Aemon really was. Aemon did not have to tell Jon who he was, but like Mormont, I believe Aemon truly recognized Jon's potential and talent for leadership, and he didn't want Jon to waste his life. What a truly honorable man!
San47di At his funeral Sam says something like ,, His name was Aemon Targaryen,, so , i guess some knew.
San47di Its not just that , he know who Jon is ..Hint : Notice He laughs when he says Ned is my father !
Miro aj There is absolutely No Way anyone knows Jon's parentage except possibly Howland Reed. Anyone else who might have known are dead. Aemon was Never in any position to know because he's been at the Wall.
San47di Aemon can see Targarian blood . Remember he said "You are half the age that Egg was, and your own burden is a crueler one, I fear. You will have little joy of your command, but I think you have the strength in you to do the things that must be done. Kill the boy, Jon Snow. Winter is almost upon us. Kill the boy and let the man be born.
Miro aj I'm reasonably sure that you're misinterpreting what Aemon meant. It has nothing to do with being able to "see" Targayian blood. If Aemon ever suspected Jon was a Targayian, trust me, he would have said something. Recall how he yearned to go to Dany's aide, but he was too old and feeble to make the journey. Jon was right there with him, so what reason would Aemon have to not acknowledge him had Aemon known or even suspected that Jon was a part of his blood-relations.. I don't look for hidden meaning nor foreshadows involving every little single comment made. If you know the Dunk and Eggs story, then the message Aemon was conveying to Jon was quite clear. Jon had twice the responsibility as Lord Commander of the Night's Watch then Egg had when he was twice Jon's age. Aemon was telling Jon to put away childish things and become a man. That All that comment to "kill the boy" means, and nothing else. Aemn wasn't talking in riddles nor speaking prophecy.
In light of R+L=J, what Aemon says to Jon makes me belive that Aemon already knows or stronly suspects Jon's kinship. "What is honor compared to a womans love?" (The love between Lyanna and Rhaegar compared to the honor of both their families and Rhaegars status as royal heir and married man). "What is duty against the feel of a newborn son in your arms?" (Pregnant Lyanna, and Rhaegars strong wish and belief he would have a third child compared to his duty as prince, husband and future King to be a sensible and inspiring leader).
Love that brief, singular moment when his calm, dignified composure falters at mentioning the murdered children. Powerful.
"Even the little children!" If Aemon was thirty years younger and could see, he would have started some serious vengeance down south.
If Aemon was 30 years younger he would be about 70 years old, according to the books, lol.
EDIT: All of my thoughtful political/religious/social comments combined have not gotten as many likes as one random semi-snarky comment :-p
For some reason I picture him carrying a two-handed sword or a staff and yelling "Fire and Blood!" at the top of his lungs as he kills Robert and Jaime by himself. Just my opinion. Though it may be better if he was say 40 years instead of 30.
Though I do find it debatable on if he will be able to kill the entire Kingsguard as well but that is simply because I don't know if he will be able to kill Barristan.
Considering he took his vows as a maester seriously, I don't think he would do that. AS a sworn member of the watch he let go of all selfish desires. Only desire he had was wanting to teach dany of dragons
***** Aemon is a Targaryen and the blood of his kin screams for vengeance. A vengeance he will never be able to mete out or live to see handed down.
***** I actually really like this comment
"But when I heard that they had killed your grandfather, and your poor father, and your siblings! Even your little siblings!"
Elder siblings *
Aemon: I was the rightful heir to the throne but I said "I DUNN WANNIT!"
Jon:Wow! That's amazing 😲
They both said said 'I DUNN WANNIT' and it killed thousands of people both times 🙄
@@catmonarchist8920 In Aemon's case I don't think it's fair to pin that on him, he couldn't have possibly known what would happen.
One of the most powerful scenes in all of GOT. The man playing Emon kills it.
To bad Jon never told Daenerys about Aemon.
he would have off screen obviously !
And the writers took their sweet ass time making Jon Snow a pussy whipped simp *Muh Kween*
The JayJay a lot of book readers were calling her that long before season 8
He could have off sceen
Understandable, as men suck at initiating very important deep convo
Anybody else realize that if Aemon had taken the throne, Aerys would never have been king, which means no rebellion, which means no war of the five kings?
You dun fucked up, Aemon.
Well, it's fully possible his own kids would've ended up as crazy as Aerys too.
ShadowSonic2 If not crazier. It is all a flip of a coin after all.
Isnt the war started by Rhaegar kidnapping (or running away with) Lyanna ?
Nuno Marques More started because Aerys executed the Starks who came and asked for Lyanna back. Which there is less of a chance of that happening in the case of a King Aemon, who clearly doesn't have the Targaryen Madness.
ScottishChristian oh thats right thats totally right! i guess both events setted off the war. on a different note : how awesome would a film of that be ?
This show had all the best actors of it's time.
This might be the most powerful scene of got.
Still arguably the best scene in all the series.
The WHOLE series, bold statement
Love is the death of duty.
Robb chooses love, for marrying Talysa. He dies.
Jon choosed duty, leaving Ygritte and returned to Castle Black, he lives.
***** Is he dead? I didn't think he was.
***** Then again, putting duty before everything else hasn't worked out for too many characters in the series, either.
***** The Lannisters too.
Tywin chose duty and it was the lack of love that killed him, Viscerys chose duty and the love of a Dothraki King became his downfall, Theon chose Duty over the love the Stark Family offered him and he became Reek
at the same time though, Dany chose love and walked into the Pyre but still lived to tell the tale
So it's not always the case
and what happens if you love your Duty, like Tyrion
*Warning Vague Spoilers and Hypothetical Spoiler*
or like the Mountain?
or your duty is to have the Love of a Mother?
the one lesson we can learn from this is that in GoT, just like in real life, there are exceptions to every rule.
when jon said to aemon "I maybe a bastard, but he is my father and Rob is my brother" Aemon laugh was priceless lol
amdo ak He knows about Jon's heritage
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He knew nothing about Jons background. Only Ned knew. No he was laughing at Jon who thought he was the only one to have been subject to such sorrow.
@@bighands69 that's not 100% true. We do not know for sure that he didn't know. But we do know that him and rhaegar kept in contact and regularly sent ravens back a forth, so it is quite possible that aemon knew rhaegar had married lyanna and produced a child. Maester aemon being a wise, smart man could have put 2+2 together and knew who Jon was
amdo ak I think this is the shows foreshadowing!
@amdo ak and @bighands69 Two of the most underrated comments
This is, I think, the most beautiful scene in the series - and magnificently acted and written. The first time I saw it, I cried. I’m a pretty hard man, and well read - but this is extraordinary.
When he starts saying “the children even the little children” he carried such dragon energy there
“My brother Aegon reigned after him, when I had refused the throne. And he was followed by his son Aerys”
Jaehaerys II: Am I a joke to you?
exactly!!! I went crazy with this mistake.. what were they thinking?
It would reinforce the sheer ancientness of Aemon, despite Jaehaerys reign being short.
THANK YOU
@@victorianfreakshow2831 I like to think he just forgot about him :')
I thought this too but wasn't 100% sure if I was right. I think they changed the timeline slightly for the show though to make characters like Robb, Jon & Daenerys older.
Aemon Targaryen; the grandson of a king, the nephew of a king, the son of a king, the brother of a king, the uncle of a king.
you can see the anger on Aemon's face and in his eyes when he is speaking about how they killed his family, the fury of a dragon.
:)
God-Emperor of Mankind u again
TheDeviantLord even the good targaryens have some mad and wisher from vegeance
And the honour of a dragon too. He is a truer Targ than Viserys.
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This to me is amazing and bittersweet that neither of them know that Jon is an actual Targaryn, but it's still one Targaryn giving guidance to another. Just sad that Maester Aemon never found out...
there is no cgi here, WE DONT WANT TO SEE DRAGONS, we want a well written coherent story, this still gives me goosebumps after 10 years and several re watches
Jon tells Dany the exact same thing: "The children! Little children!"
It comes full circle :)
That's why it was obvious what Jon was gonna do. This was already the time when he had chose between the two, duty or love.
If he had chosen love from the start, he would have dies already with Ygritte. That's why, it was obvious in S8, he's def gonna kill Dany one way or another
@@miinacho9196 Yet it was all rushed.
Jon has KILLED A LITERAL CHILDREN (True the kid stabbed him to death but kind off hypocritic from his part). Daenerys in previous seasons was ruthless but never against those clearly innocent. Yes she executed 200 SLAVE MASTERS, and look at that! She did learn to restrain herself for next time!
But no, Season 8 was all rushed instead of exploring more that darker side.
Up until that point all characters are morally gray, literally.
Tyrion using wildfire in Blackwater saves the city but kills thousands of men who did not really wanted to be in a war. Jon executed a children. Jaime sacrifaced his honor and memory to save hundreds of thousands and adopted the face that all saw in him, the cruel kingslayer.
Even Varys, who has done horrible things, was all part of his master plan and for the greater good of the realm
(Again, all throwed away in the last 2 seasons).
Yes, there is a little bit of foreshadow here and there...
But I interpret this scene as that but not just "Duty for the Watch" No.
Stannis is a good example. He did not want the throne, but he knew that by laws of sucession, he was the rightful ruler, and so was Jon! Both for the North and the South!
The end could have perfectly been
"As Daenerys and Jon were both Targaryens but did not want to marry each other, they decided to rule the 7 Kingdoms together as joint rulers, with Jon ruling the North and the Riverlands as his brother would have wanted, and Daenerys got to sit on the Iron Throne, a queen with an iron hand but also a more delicate cotton hand".
@@fildariusv7045 how is he a hypocrite for killing a teenager who stabbed him in the chest? And lmao saying Stannis didn't want the throne is childish, he fucking lusted for the Iron Throne, he wanted it because he felt slighted by his brother and everyone else, he used the "blood right" as an excuse to expand his own ego
@@nicholasbrown668 In the sense that his character killed a kid and was going out of his way breaking ancient vows for personal revenge against Ramsay.
And Stannis wanted the Throne just because it was his duty, it was the Law, in the end he wants it more than ever because he knows he has to save the Realm from The Others and in order to do that is get the Throne. Come on, the actor was good and all but any interview about his character is pretty biased, he did not like GoT or the books at all, he was in it for the money
I like this scene. Aemon has lost so much more than Jon could ever know and simply laughs and schools him.
Yeah, though unfortunately for Jon I guess they're on the same level now.
Well as far as Jon knows...
Now that is wisdom...
You shall yet learn everything, Jon Targaryen.
TheShocel What does that mean?
Aemon talking and giving old wisdom to not only another Targaryen after many years, not only to John who a lot of people me include him and blood raven set up as the prince who was promised. But simply another Aegon, so it is a sweet way for him to get to talk with his brother again❤.
Good interpretation touches my heart
My heart always breaks for Aemon.. such a sweet man
When you realize Jon is Aegon Targayren, rightfull heir to the throne... and Master Aemon was Aemon Targayren, rightfull heir to the throne... And that Aemon loved his brother Egg, nickname to Aegon... And that he started saying Egg before his death.
Just awesome.
I think the egg he was referring to will be jon and dany's son.
He wasn't the rightful heir. He had already graduated from the Citadel when his father had died which means he had renounced his claim. He was only offered the throne by some of his brothers rivals.
@@rounaktater8704 no. He was referring to Aegon V Targaryen, his little brother. He doesnt even know that Jon and Dany end up together or even have a kid. He's a Targaryen Maester, not Nostradamus
@@andrevanderlinden8722 WO SO YO SAYIN IN THA SHO WIT DRAGONS AN FIRE NINJAS AN SNOWMANS A NIGGA CANT TELL THA FUTURE?
FOR SAKE JON IS NOT THE HEIR READ THIS. Daenerys is the true heir , So.. Aerys ll had 3 children rhaegar, viserys and daenerys, rhaegar married elia martell and had 2 sons that died by the hands of mountain, viserys was then declared the king of dragon stone while rhaegar was in battle of trident while lyanna stark had a son aegon targaryen who was Jon snow rhaegars son, rhaegar died before he was declared the king, viserys died by the hands of khal drogo, daenerys was the one true heir, the 1 reason is because Jon joined nights watch where to have swore and give up any inheritance, and 2 is because Jon's father rhaegar died before declared the King and thus making deanerys one true queen of 7 Kingdoms of westrous
This is one of those scenes that becomes so much better on a rewatch, once you're familiar with the series and its history. Only then do you understand the gravity of what's being revealed.
+Scarecrow545 Do you mind telling me as I didn't get this scene and what was being said (apart from his family's history)
+Quilliam Attari Aemon has revealed to Jon he is one of the last living Targaereans (sp)- in fact, he could have been king- and that he faced the same situation that Jon now finds himself in- the struggle between his vows as a brother of the Night's Watch, and his love for his family and desire for revenge.
jpgr69 Thank you so much man :)
+Quilliam Attari Yup, Aemon Targaryen refused the Throne to the next claimant, his young brother, Aegon V. Also known has Egg (that's what he calls him in the scene) , from GRRM's "Tales of Dunk and Egg". Which is the Mad King's grandfather.
so if R+L=J is true, then Jon just met his great-great-great-uncle. (yeeeeah, he's old as fuck. xD)
+Pedro Albano They cut one generation in the show cause the "triple great" would confuse the shit out of people. xDD
There is a good chance Aemon made the connection about Jons lineage. He was old enough to know Rhaegar and Leana and to know that he would have never raped her. Then, if he knew Ned stark he may have been skeptical about him bringing a bastard to winterfell. Especially if that happened within a year from the war brealing out for Jon to have been born. I would not put it past Ned Stark to actually have told Aemon about Jon at some point.
Possibly true. Jon's birth was a secret and so was Rhaeger's marriage but were written in a maester's personal diary and Aemon as a maester himself may have had access to those diaries and notes. and as you said the timing of it all was suspicious Leana dying in Dorne then her brother Ned bring home a bastard. and why were two of Rhaegars knights guarding a tower in Dorne while their prince was fighting (and died) miles away?
Aemon was at the Wall the entire time, it’s highly unlikely he ever met Rhaegar and only knows of him through what other people say about the rebellion (unless it’s been said otherwise that Aemon met his family while serving castle black?)
A lovely conversation between Aemon and his great-great-nephew
I can only imagine the emotions that must have been going through Aemon's mind when he heard the news, his entire family slaughtered and scattered his father's throne usurped. And he, the lone dragon in the north, old and forgotten, unable to do anything to help.
I truly wish though that Aemon and Dany could have met one another. I can imagine Dany acting the same way Jon did, asking 'Who are you?"
And Aemon giving the same answer he gave, all the while Dany moving closer and closer to him when Aemon finally says his name proudly, at which Dany, in tears would embrace her Great-Uncle.
Ahh.. Stop it, stop it. Your making me cry..
+TheDeviantLord COUGH Jon Targaryen COUGH...only if they knew
+Madz Midz You took my words. I just imagined the whole scene in my mind. ;n;
+TheDeviantLord and then they kiss and have cave sex
+Sri Jay jon stark, who happens to have some targerryean blood.
This was foreshadowing for John's fate, a character bound by duty.
Yes, but with level 1 writing ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°).
Mesho and you’re a genius? Lol
@@Da_Homie12 to be honest he is actually praising the writing of earlier seasons of got, and saying that season 8 writing is lacking in comparison
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A baboon could’ve probably wrote a better script for season 8 than D&D
@@Da_Homie12 Right? All these moaners going on about "plot armor" and "bad writing" can barely put a sentence together much less dream of building an epic (in the classical sense) series like GoT.
funny how this early scene still has such a strong emotional impact on the viewers, years after the end of the series. The acting, the dialogue... perfect
"Honor comes easy, when theres no cost..." No truer words have ever been spoken. A true test of ones character comes in front of conflict.
If only Jon knew that Aemon was his Great Uncle.
in the books its great great brother
im pretty sure great great brother and great uncle are the same thing
Great great uncle... Aerys was Aemon's nephew, who would be Jon's grandfather.
Aerys is the son of Jaehaerys, Aemons Nephew.
+Nimesh I'm pretty sure he meant, in the books it's great great, brother. As in Aemon is his great great uncle.
I want an entire spin off for the events preceding game of thrones. I think we all do.
agreed!
George RR Martin said he was working on a prequel book with the first men, etc.
***** It would be cool if they go even before that and show more of the history of the First Men and the Children of the Forest.
I want the creators of game of thrones to make this show as well.
Gumby blue HBO is already looking into that :-)
The part about Ned chosing between his honour and his family..
Fascinating for him to say that to Jon, given Neds actions at the Tower of Joy.
Probably the best scene of the show. What a performance holy shit.
R.I.P Peter Vaughan. An incredible actor who shared his talent with us to the end. Thank you.
Did he died in real life
@@deangelowhite31 he died in 2016.
@@unoriginalhazard Damm I ain't no
@@deangelowhite31 you gotta be trolling with this grammar 😮💨🫤
@@Guy-lo3th no I'm not trolling I really thought he was Damon from House of dragon but that's not
This was one of those moments that made you put down the book for a moment to try and let it sink all in. I think the show, and Peter Vaughan, did a good job with the scene, and Aemon as a whole.
Maester Aemon acting deserves more recognition.
"What is duty against the feeling of a newborn son in your arms?" Whoever wrote that had flames coming out of their pencils
If Jon Snow's origins are as fans theorize, then the impact and portents of this scene is retroactively increased exponentially.
Nice vocabulary there. Pity it doesn't really make any sense.
The scene kicks ass if you assume Jon is a Targ.
崔晗 The children of Rhaegar Targaryen and Elia Martell also had dark hair. The platinum blonde hair and purple eyes are likely recessive genetic traits that the Targaryen's propagate through incest. Unless both parents have the gene it's not gonna happen.
Not sure what his destiny with the Wall and Winterfell have to do with his bloodline.
Xelpherpolis its not assuming lol he is the product of Aegon Targaryen and Eddard Stark's sister Lyanna.Thats why Ned took Jon away because he knew he would be targeted if anyone ever found out about him. also Jon is at the Wall because of his choices he has made, it just so happened that Ameon was there
Xelpherpolis Not necessarily. Brynden Rivers was a bastard born Targaryen and looked more Targaryen than other pure bloods
I love the look on Aemons face at 2:30 when he talks about the children, so much emotional anger.
Everybody says kit Harrington was not great.. to me he actually got the entire essence of jon snow confused vulnerable and also brave when he was required to.. i think he played his part brilliantly.. cant think of any other actor.. maybe we have stuck with him for 8 seasons but still very commendable portrayal of jon snow..
The way he says children sent chills down my spine
the nights watch did wonders for Jon. changed his life to shape him to the leader he is now
They even shaped his life into death :D
and fire brought him back.
The horrible, horrible leader who lets his men die pointlessly and was murdered by his own soldiers. What a man.
Brian MacLeod the same man who convinced wildlings and gaints 😒
+pritesh attal amen. Robb was a good military leader but politics lead to his death. Jon already knows what betrayal is like and maybe less likely to be fooled. the stark family (Ned's sister son) are military good leaders but politics not their game.
"Who are you?" "I'm your great uncle you fool!"
Im pretty sure its said in the books that Rhaegar wrote to Aemon a lot. And that they were close, so there is an ever so slight chance that Aemon knew Jon was targaryen
Fun fact: after his father died a few lord's including the high septon offered aemon the crown despite him being a maester as they didn't want his younger brother to be king as he'd traveled the realm with the hedge knight ser Duncan the tall. They feared this lifestyle would make him to sympathetic to the common people (it did) and he'd favor them and not the lord's(he did). The high septon offered to pardon aemon for abounding his maester vows if he agreed to take the crown. However he chose to remain loyal to his vows and would not long after his brother was crowned aegon the 5th he headed to the wall alongside his grand uncle brynden rivers aka bloodraven aka the three eyed Raven, where he'd stay till his death