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D & D only chose Arya because of the possible cliche of the hero thing, not because it was right. They even claimed that they had set it up in season 3 with the whole moment with Arya and Melisandre, which most knew was bs. It was just them trying to put their favorites in front.
@@daisysw3147 The author literally made up an entire history of multiple civilizations from another world. I think we’ve surpassed the inspiration part 😂
@daisysw3147 yes War of the Roses is a big influence for GRRM and the story in general, but he took that inspiration and created an entire world around it, full of incredibly complex people, families, politics, religions, organizations, brotherhoods, magic and mythical creatures. He took inspiration from a real life historical event and built a dynamic, beautiful and intricate world around it
All I keep thinking was: Which Aegon? Considering that Rhaenyra and Daemon talked to him earlier and he met Aegon III and Viserys for the first time? What if that dream he kept talking about actually showed his grandson and he realized it, when he saw him for the first time? He was about to die. Maybe he didn't even realize, that he was talking to Alicent and not Rhaenyra.
@@franziskaways4956 this what I was questioning too. I just finished the show and my thought was like "are they not aware?" But in the last episode Otto mentioned it. So they knew that there's another Aegon. So how can Alicent assumed that it was about her lad? I think we need season 2 ASAP.
I thought Alicent didn't care about what she heard, only that Viserys died and SHE was the one who witnessed it and the queen, so she knew they'd listen to her no matter what she said, so she put her son on the throne.
It's really a shame the producers of GoT rushed the ending and basically killed all the character building that had been happening. They completely missed the ball for John, aka aegon aka the prince that was promised, with letting Arya kill the knight king
Someone got greedy. Maybe it was a new contract or the idea of a new series with the Targarians (?) As stars. I can't think of why it would have been so bad after all the season's before. There were new writers. Must have been.
@@peggyhall843 d&d were trying to rush to finish so they could start writing the batman movie at the time but the script got shot down after all the fan hate from game of thrones.....its a bitter sweet moment. I hate D&D
The scene with daemon singing and the dragon breathing fire was one of my favorite scenes! It was so badass! 🔥🔥 and I think daemons dragon makes the coolest roars!
I like Daemon's dragon the most. I like the long lanky look and how incredibly scary it looks. It would probably be one of the greatest dragons ever if it had more time to grow. Vhagar was twice as big and strong and Caraxes still took Vhagar out with him just by pure ferocity
Harrenhal was built in a region with many heart trees and many of them were cut down during construction, because these trees are sacred only to those who worship the old gods and this sacrilege is the origin of the curse. Both shows do a very poor job of dealing with the mystical side of the story, especially regarding the old gods. The curse of Harrenhal may or may not be real, it is a matter of faith for the characters.
I don't see how it gets forgotten that it was a dagger that belonged to Aegon the freaking Conqueror. That would increase its value considerably, especially as the more impressive valerian steel swords aren't hanging around.
And truly it did still all stick. the dagger says "From my blood will come the Prince That Was Promised, and his will be the Song of Ice and Fire." He is the one that truly united ice (white walkers) and fire (Daenerys stormborn) He did unite them which was what the dagger said the prince (which he was) would do
I think this could be why the prophecy was lost and not well known in GOT. Only Rhaenyra was told and she couldn’t pass it on to her heir because of the war.
@@dm3ris well he is gonna die in future, if they go by books....because danaerys was told to be the ancestor of daemon and rhaenyra, and jace wasnt daemons son.... so he dies, and so does joffery, and line continues by aegon 3 i gues...
One could already see in GoT that Daenery´s didn´t have full control of her dragons... It´s nothing new... in GoT Drogon left her stranded after the riots in the middle of nowwhere and she locked them up because she couldn´t control them
And later you can see that the bond between Daenerys and Drogon became one, because Drogon can understand what Dany wants and feel, even when the show killed her.
It was believed then that knowledge was lost over the centuries and that there was specific ways to keep them in control, but I guess that was proven wrong now.
@@eddiegreencheez Stunted their growth in theory, yet their are still bigger than lots of the adult dragons in HOTD? Something isn’t adding up with Dany’s dragons
What pains me is that in the end, it was Rhaenyra's son Aegon iii who sat the throne, the dance was completely useless, the death of so many Targaryens and the end of dragons all for the same result that would've happened without it too, it's just heartbreaking.
@@tahirqazi6656egon III has a younger brother named Viserys and his older brothers are Velaryons and his older sisters are Targaryens and a stillborn younger sister Visenya . So he has 6 siblings
Herrenhalls curses isn’t from Aegons conquest, it’s from it Harrenhalls construction, the blood of the slaves and others who built it is mixed into to concrete of every stone, from the point of it’s completion it was believed to be cursed
The Dance Of The Dragons is awesome story material. However I agree a show just about Aegon's Conquest would of been epic. Focus the first season on the Targaryen's & Velaryon's fleeing the Old Valyrian Freehold, and The Doom unfolding. Show the settling of Dragonstone & Driftmark. Probably a lot of time jumps, but let the first season end with the birth of Aegon The Conqueror.
Probably it wouldnt be too smart to do a season on the scape from Valyrian (plot wise and budget wise). There's like 7 generations between Daenys the dreamer and Aenar and Aegon the Conqueror. Maximum a flashback or a starting episode... then Right to Aegon having a dream and waking up, speaks with his sister wifes (which after having being safed by the dreams of Daenys take Aegon's dream seriously) and they all agree they have to conquer Westeros. Then, they begin the conquest. That would tied up with HoTD tv show as well.
While I agree the should've started with aegons conquest what your describing isn't that it's the Targaryen escape to westeros which would be a good prequel after the conquest
There is just so much material for spin offs👀 The Valyrian Freehold, The Age of Dawn, The Rhoynar fleeing to Westeros, The Long Night… I just got through the first chapters of The World of Ice and Fire and oml the in-universe is VAST😅
@@ferrm1992 Not true, look at the Robert, stanis, and renly, then look at bonebreaker strong, same manner of looks, face from anywhere can be linked to any northern family. The real blood is the Starks and strongs, they relate to almost every house.. the seed is strong has alot of meanings behind it. It related to house strong. Stark in german.. Translates. STRONG. Strongs are 1st men, from the north, that traveled from the north. Bonebreaker almost has his sons put on throne. They are related to many familes. Some say all, but it is clear where Martin is going with the strong family. He has included them more and more as the books go further in.
But when you trace Rhaenyra's line, all of it ended with Dany and Jon Snow, no Baratheon at all, the Baratheon ended somewhere in their relatives of Targaryens yes but that family ended just there..they may have Targaryen relative but just the spouse and the children that ended then and then
I wouldn’t mind a series about the Blackfyre Rebellions. No dragons, but lots of epic battles and political scheming. Could also show us how Brynden Rivers/Bloodraven ended up becoming the Three-Eyed Raven/Crow (I got a soft spot for Bloodraven, he’s one of my favorite characters as far the books go).
@@comfort7575 there are no narrative books that cover it, but the Knight of Seven Kingdoms (Dunk and Egg) deals with the fallout from the first Rebellion and literally occurs during the Second Blackfyre Rebellion.
I think the dragons connection to the rider is almost like a best friend you consider a brother. He cares about you, feels how you feel, wants to protect you but at the end of the day you don't control them they ultimately decide what to do and although you usually listen to your best friend imagine being punched in the face and your friend (rider) said don't do anything back out of anger you may not listen to whatever your friends reason is.
The thing I called out was that earlier in that episode Daemon questioned how they were taking care of Viserys’ having him drugged out of his mind, in which Alicent said something along the lines of “we keep him on milk of the poppy to help with the pain and in doing so it causes him to ramble”. So if he was constantly drugged out and just said nonsensical things, why would him saying anything to imply Aegon should be on the Iron Throne be taking seriously? Like girl go prop ya feet up somewhere.
Also, this series made it all the more depressing that the finale of the Wight Walkers in Season 8 was so lame. There was apparently hundreds of years and a plot driving prophecy.
I know people don't really find it super interesting but I would love to see Robert's Rebellion. It's a big deal and sure no dragons but it can still be good and can probably make it 2 seasons
Me too , I thought that was a great part in the Targaryen history , the death of the Mad King Aerys by Jamie Lannister , etc.. and is this THE Christopher Florio? THE Richard Florio’s nephew? 😎😉
I too would love to see Roberts rebellion turned into a TV series. I'm even hoping that at the end of house of the dragon we get an episode telling us a story leading up to king Aerys and the start of him going mad, which could lead to a series about Roberts rebellion
house celtigar and house velaryon were both in westeros before the targaryens and were from valyria. However, they were not dragon lord families so they had no dragons. But House Qoherys and Belaerys also escaped the doom. Though House Qoherys were one of the families that held harrenhal and died from the curse and belaerys had a few survivors of the doom, along with their dragon terrax. But I don't believe they are around in the song of ice and fire main series.
Would be so cool to have so many series of so many different times in the GOT world! There is so much content that could be made! It could go on for years to come and be one of the greatest franchise to exist! Ughhh give us more!!
After watching Game of Thrones, everyone thought that Rhaenyra wanted to seize the throne that originally belonged to men on a whim, but her inheriting the throne was just the result of Viserys' stubborness. She had no choice in the matter as long as Viserys said so and prepared her for it, so her defending her right was the logical thing to do after the greens stabbed her in the back. Had he named Aegon in her stead, they could have had a relationship at least a bit close to the relationship Jaehaerys had with his elder sister, Rhaena, even though at times she felt wronged by being passed over in the succession. Perhaps if Viserys named Aegon his heir, then his relationship with his older sister wouldn't have been so tense, and the greens wouldn't have conspired against her.
Harrenhal isn't necessarily cursed. It's just a castle that's far too large to be supported by the meager lands it controls. Harren the Black took tributes from the Iron Islands and the Riverlands. Immediately after the conquest, Harrenhal's lands were greatly diminished, making it comparable in tributes to Riverrun. During Maegor's reign, he diminished the lands further, giving parts of those lands to other lords loyal to him.
I would bet more dragons are alive in different places we have not heard of. There's no way such a powerful empire didn't have people scattered all over the world.
Valyria had enemies to the east who have powerful forces that would eliminate dragons, as well as weather that debilitates them. The Free Cities were established without dragonriders, so that would preclude them.
So it just confirms that it should have been Jon Snow (Aegon) to have face off with the Night King and kill him. He was the prince who was promised. Damn season 8 really f’ed up
@@awarabhopali it’s just years and season after season displaying that Jon and the NK were destined to face off against one another. Now that HOD confirms that cats paw dagger was passed down from heir to heir, it was meant for Jon (Aegon) to own it really.
I really thought it would be Arya would be the one to kill Daenerys, because I truly dont believe Jon would ever be able to do that himself. And we were all cheated by not getting the showdown between Jon and the Night King. Hopefully the Jon Snow series is able to correct that somehow.
not it doesn't confirm any such thing . you are assuming prophecy is correct. in fact all indications in books and show, points to prophecy as misleading, and was intentionally created to destroy targs and their dragons.
Fun fact: The inspiration behind "House of the Dragon" comes from an actual dynasty in real life. The dynasty was House of Drăculești and was a Romanian dynasty of Principality of Wallachia. The dynasty started with Vlad Dracul the father of more famous ruler Vlad the Impaler (Vlad Dracula, "son of the Dragon"). The family originated from House of Basarab the founders of Wallachia, in which the Principality is located in modern day Romania and currently the Capital is located in its region. The name Drăculești means Dragon as Dracul in Old Romanian language ment Dragon but now means Devil. It was generally believed that Vlad Dracul was part of the Order of the Dragon, a Christian Order ment to stop the expansion of the Ottoman Empire into Europe. But now due to a document, it mentions a certain Mihail who came to the court of Sigismund asking to become part of the order and he was Prince of Wallachia. Vlad Draculs oldest son and older brother of Vlad the Impaler whose name is Miahi was the one who founded the Dynasty of the Dragon (Drăculești). The name Drăcul-ești could be put this way, Drăcul in the sense of Dragon and ești is in Romanian and originates from Latin ēscō meaning in English "you're" which the name could be translated as "You're Dragon"
nah. it has nothing to with romanians. Dragons were mentioned by other Nations of different variety. China, Scandinavian folklore and many ohers. GRR Martin right A song of Ice and Fire for a fantasy like story of England History. Think of Night King = William Wallace, Lannistrr = Lancaster, Stark = York, Targaryens = Vikings and Dragonboats were their ship equivalent to their mount. First men = Gauls, Children of the Forest were Celts. Dragons was also the emblem of Wales, did u know? Even Bhutan and Malta. Nevertheless, Dragons were only a personification of feared Race and Greed for Gold like the Vikings
All I keep thinking was: Which Aegon? Considering that Rhaenyra and Daemon talked to him earlier and he met Aegon III and Viserys for the first time? What if that dream he kept talking about actually showed his grandson and he realized it, when he saw him for the first time? He was about to die. Maybe he didn't even realize, that he was talking to Alicent and not Rhaenyra.
From my blood will come the Prince that was promised, and his will be the song of ice and fire….or maybe he won’t and he just kinda won’t matter much in the end.
Let’s not forget the dragons in the books, the wild dragons including Hannibal who is said to feed on other dragons so overall like 25 dragons more which will appear in season 2
David lightbringer has an amazing series about the doom of Valeria and what happened to the Targaryens during and afterwards that would make for a great show. I hope they continue making more on screen stories from this interesting world GRRM has created.
it was also the blood magic that bonded her to the eggs. The Targaryens have a tradition of putting a dragon egg in the crib with a newborn, so Daenerys literally had 3 eggs with her. It's not always the case with dragonriders, as Leana Velaryon only gained Vhagar at 15, and Rheanyra actively looks for adult dragon riders for the old wild dragons
The answer to #9 was strictly scripted for the two TV shows (GoT and HotD) to tie into one another. "A Song of Ice and Fire" series, "Fire and Blood" as well as Martin's newest publication; "The Rise of the Dragon," do not state Aegons conquest came about because of the impending threat of the white walkers. In fact, the night King doesn't even exist in AsoIaF yet, he may never for all we know. George has also spoke recently about how the ending of GoT will be different than the novels as he has made some creative decisions writing the last two novels that steer away from how the TV series concluded. While I do think it was a clever way to validate each of the shows within the GoT world, I want people to understand that it does differ from the original source material.
I think rhey are pretty much dead. But what could happen is that there is more creatures like ice spiders and ice dragons etc hidden away in the lands of always winter and Jon could be exploring that
I think one other thing was answered. Whether Tyrion is a Targeryan or not. They made an emphasis on birth complications when it comes to their kids and mixed with the hints given in game of thrones I felt that is probably true now and hope that comes into play in new Jon Snow spin off.
Tyrions mom which was tywin lanisters wife got raped by the mad king. So that makes tyrion half targarion and half whatever his mom was before the marriage.
Dont forget House Celtigar were also a family and house of old Valyria and a vassal house of the Targaryans in Westeros residing at Claw Isle. Rumor has it thst House Celtigar are in possession of a Valaryian steel double headed axe .Sweet
Just because Larys ordered their deaths it doesn’t mean harrenhal is not cursed. I always took it to mean that whoever held the seat would befall a terrible fate. You see this with Lord Strong, Larys, Janos slynt, Littlefinger etc
The Targaryens and Velaryons weren’t actually the only houses to survive. There was a third. House Celtigar was also from Old Valyria, although they were not highborn. The Celtigars were no more than peasants in Valyria, but when they fled to Westeros they landed on Claw Isle and became lords. Unlike the Velaryons, they never married members of House Targaryen, but they were commonly given seats on the Small Council, usually as Master of Coin. They also have a Valyrian steel axe.
I think Viserys’ death has to do with the way Aerea Targeryan died. I think something or disease that was affecting Balerion that rubbed off on them hence the similar(to some extent) deaths.
No it was explained what happened to aerea it wasn’t from balerion it was their journey to old Valeria where there are unspoken horrors there one of which she got (fire parasites)
Viserys died from a from of leprosy, according to his actor. Aerea Targaryen died of a horrible disease that seemed to resemble greyscale, the green fever and skin cancer. Balerion was heavily wounded from the flight by unknown forces. Anything that could wound the Black Dread is frightening enough.
To see Arrax’s little self hit Vhagar with the flame in his face and then try to fly away, pretty much sealed their fates right there. Vhagar couldn’t be controlled and was done playing games at that point 😂😂
Nothing will ever beat the cast and dynamics or the original GoT series....seeing The Hound at the beginning of this video reminded me of that hard truth. Still, HoTD was great. Hopefully the Jon Snow spinoff series gets made.
there were early discussions of an anthology but HBO scrapped that out as it will panned the fans like the walking dead did to their franchise (3-4 series concurrently airing at one point making over saturation to viewers). maybe we will get one at a time but not all at once.
Eh, I feel like that would be really boring. It’s basically Aegon and his sister-wives show in Westeros and wreck everyone with their dragons. The only interesting thing that actually happened was Rhaenys and her dragon getting shot down in Dorne. Besides that, it’s a really straightforward and kind of boring story.
@@Garrus1995 well a history about Valeria is lit for me firewyrns wyerns, how and who made dragons, dragons bigger than balerion as you know before the doom the sky was ruled by 300+ dragons and aegon's family was a mid size lord family
The song of ice and fire is the story of Jons birth being born from the Houses of Ice (Stark) and Fire (Targaryen) he is the Prince of prophecy that the Targaryens sang in secrecy for centuries, also his own father Rhaegar had a beautiful voice and ultimately thats how he swooned Lyanna Stark
Well show wise he is but GrrM quite literally said “the stuff going on at the wall is (ice) and dany and her dragons are (fire)”. I believe Daenerys was the original asoiaf/ Azor Ahai but D&D messed it up.
Can I just point out the stellar performance the actor of Joffrey (Jack Gleeson). There were times I forgot he was acting I hated him so much, played a spectacular villain character, and will probably go down as one of the “best” in terms of sheer hatred.
'Arya killing the Wight King' is by having a Targaryen or a half-Targaryen marrying into House Stark and passing the bloodline. Otherwise, based on the prophecy, it should have been Jon Snow to deal the final blow.
Prophecies aren't always 100% correct. As an example, during Viserys and Aemma's dialogue he told her he saw their son ascending the Iron Throne. Aegon's prophecy also does not specifically say that it will be the Prince of his blood that will kill the NK, it says the Prince will unite the realm and lead the fight. Jon somewhat accomplished both to some degree.
@@cyber2cyke agree, except jon didn't actually united the westeros, only northern kingdom and queen dany (with one baratheon, and 2 lannisters). That was like 4/8 of the regions.
@@cypr7120 Hence the words somewhat and to some degree. He was able to get a (very) temporary truce which again backs what I said that prophecies aren't 100%.
What if the king of the Whight walkers isn't dead and is again shown in the Jon snow series and it turns out to be someone from House of the dragons. What if there wasn't only one night king.
Just give a thought to my words Brian and arya were Bastards from blood raven bcz lady stark was fed of jon's existence and cheated on ned as a revenge. Now we know how arya was ahai and brian became next raven
I feel like the whole dagger thing would have tied in perfectly with Bran becoming the Night King. Why else would the assassin sent to kill Bran have the dagger that killed the Night King?
Have you ever wonder why the three eyed raven trap in the North? Bcoz 3 Eyed Raven is probably the only one who knows to dispel the Curse after the War of the First Men. Theres must be something amiss between their contract. So 3eyed raven, always find a way for escape through Hodor, Madking, and many others. The Night King was the weapon of the Children of the Forest to reclaim their homeland from the First Men
Here are my questions for you that are still unanswered. Answer if you can: 1. Who were faceless men: humans, gods, murderers, sorcerers or something else? 2. Why Jaqen Hghar helped Arya in Harrenhal. 3. Who was Quaithe and what was her purpose? 4. Who was Kinvara and what was her purpose? 5. Why white walkers murder people and put the bodies in an specific spiral shape that looks like Targaryen sigil or the gods wood? 6. What did Bran become after downloading all the information from three eyed raven and who infact was the three eyed raven and what role did he play in the history of weteros? 7. How exactly the Doom of Valyria happened and what triggered it? 8. How people of Valyria first came into contact of the dragons? 9. Out of all the gods that were worshipped by different people all over westeros and essos which one is real : like God of fire, the drowned god, the old gods, the seven gods or if no god exists in that world? 10. How Thoros of Myr used to make Berric alive each time after his death?
So, as I´m not in the matter entirely I´m not sure how precise my answers are going to be, but I´ll give it a try. If you're really interested, there are also yt videos to most of these questions. 1. the faceless men are seemingly simply assassins who worship death, and therefore believe that only life can pay for death? 2. Arya saved Jaqen Hghar earlier in the show and 2 other prisoners, so for saving these three lives, he offered to take 3 others. 4. If I recall correctly, Kinvara was simply one of the priestesses sent out to preach of the lord of light. 8. The Valyrians were known to mix species, resulting in hybrid forms, using blood magic, which is supposedly similar to today's genetic engineering. In order to create dragons, they mixed the naturally occurring wythers and wyrms (not sure if those two are spelled correctly), using said blood magic. They then proceeded to bind the valerian houses to the dragons using blood magic, resulting in them actually having dragon blood. This is also the reason why the Targaryans try to keep their bloodline as "pure" as possible, as intermarriage with non-valerian houses would "dilute" their blood, and weaken their bond to the dragons. 9. I don't think that the situation with the gods is ever entirely explained, but each of the ancient "races" has a connection to a certain type of magic, which they, later on, refer to as their gods. The Targaryans have their fire magic, and the lord of light, the north, descending from the first men have their animal possession and the old gods etc.
@@Genastor your reply to point no 8 is somewhat correct and reply to point no 9 is 30% correct. For rest you know nothing. Nobody does. GRRM himself has not given any answers to these burning questions yet and I want them in upcoming books. The show was perfect in each aspect except that they also failed to give reply to these questions and not their fault too as they had no clue about them since everything came out of mind of GRRM and at a certain stage the show crossed the books. Also let me be clear no RUclips video is there to explain first few questions.
As a book reader I still have two big questions. One is why do the seasons last so long and my second one is not what happened at Summerhall but why did it happen? We know it burnt down because of Egg and dragon eggs but how were they trying to hatch dragons and how did it get out of control?
Egg apparently tried to use wildfire and Essosi magic, but as with all things fire related it went out of control. The seasons seem to reflect a planet that has a slow orbit, with calendars determined by artificial rather than natural measures. People have regular namedays despite the seasons.
The *Greens* have *6* Dragons ( *_Dreamfyre, Vhagar, Sunfyre, Tessarion, Morghul and Shrykos_* ) not 4 and the *Blacks* have 9, now *8* dragons ( *_Caraxes, Syrax, Meleys, Vermax, Tyraxes, Moondancer, Morning (a baby) and Stormcloud (baby) // Arrax but is dead_* ). From these, ready to fight, the Greens have 4 and the Blacks 5 or 6. The unclaimed ones and wild ones do not count yet as being on Rhaenyra's side ( _Vermithor, Silverwing, Seasmoke; Sheepstealer, Grey Ghost, Cannibal_ ) since they have no rider and the riders can choose which side they want to be on.....
I’ve been rewatching GoT for the first time in a while and I had totally forgot about the MASSIVE spoiler Joffrey says in season 3 about what happens in HotD…I was so pissed!!! 😂 I mean I would have found out eventually because I have Fire and Blood but now the show AND the book have been slightly spoiled. I am excited to see how it all u folds though….
GOT is better then House of the Dragon in my opinion think it's mainly due to the characters and different locations used in the series.And the writing is a bit better not to say HOD isn't any good just a bigger fan of GOT I just finished watching it for the 4th time lol
@@superunknown2812 that's not really a fair comparison to make at this point in time. Game of thrones has 8 seasons of content to assess whereas house of the dragon has only one. Instead you should compare the first season of each series - in which house of the dragon really gives GOT a run for its money. While i wouldn't say its better than S1 of game of thrones, it comes extremely close, and is much better the the shit show that is season 6, 7, and 8 of GOT. The writing in HOTD is amazing and each character is very well written (just as GOT 1-4 was). If HOTD keeps this standard up through its whole duration it will be a really good comparison to make between the two shows.
@@deedstaar7520 Not at all... I generally dont see what they couldve done better in season 1 - which is why I said if they keep up the quality in the seasons coming, it can definitely reach he highs of GOT
I can't wait to hear everyone complain about Rhaenyra's fate in House of the Dragon, when Game of Thrones has already told us what happened to her years ago. Unless, of course, they change it from the book or GOT.
It would be a bad decision to change the story. The ending of game of thrones is proof of that. They showed that jon or Dany can be the prince that was promised, on several occasions they hyped a sword fight between night king and Jon just to end with Arya jumping out of nowhere and killing the night king.
An epic duel between John and night-king was the major missing part of GOT. The build up of sequel & evolution of the characters was that perfect be since the start of show
... WatchMojo acting like most A Song of Ice and Fire fans didn't know that Celtigar and Velaryon escaped the Doom too. That was never an unanswered question.
True but not the GOT series fans who just watched the show and never explored the lore. I have a few friends like that whose knowledge of that universe comes strictly from the GOT series.
I feel like control of the dragons depends on the rider's control of themselves. Drogon and Dany synced up after riding because it's more of an empathic bond. When she looses control, her dragon does as well because it is her strongest bidding. We see this with Aemond Vhagar. He may have not really meant to kill him, he may have, but in that moment he absolutely meant harm, even if to terrify and injure. Vhagar does not distinguish the subtleties and knows what her rider's actions hope to achieve and does so at the basest level she knew how. To kill. We also see it with Luke's dragon when he yells "Serve me!" Luke may want to command the dragon but overall he wanted out of the situation; which is what the dragon acted on.
House Celtigar is the third Valyrian Houses to have escaped the Doom. They're sort of the poor cousin compared to the Targaryens and Velaryons, but they kept faith with Rhaenyra.
One member of House Kipagon survived as well. Aurion Kipagon was in Quohor I believe (or maybe that’s just where he raised his army to reclaim Valyria) when he heard of it. He left for Valyria with this army never to be seen again. But it’s believed his dragon survived, and is the reason that Baelerion came back injured when visiting Valyria with Aerea Targeryan.
Now can you all see that Daenerys can be the princess that was promised, Viserys said it and the prophecy too besides Jon Snow is not a Targaryen in the books.
@@princenirmal4197 no, Viserys was talking about the vision Aegon I have had when he was alive not about Jon Snow, you people don’t put attention and he said to Rhaenyra that she’s the one that had to seat in the iron throne in case the walkers attacks and that means that a woman can be the prince or Princess that was promised also Jon Snow till the 5 book is not mention that he is a Targaryen.
@@princenirmal4197 the show does not follow the event that happens in the books and after season 5 everything is invented by the two people who ruined GOT and like I said before, the prophecy clearly said that can be a woman too.
Well yes the show often doesn't follow the books or change things but it was confirmed years ago that GRRM asked the showrunners who the thought Jon's parents were and they apparently gave the right answer or they wouldn't have gotten the rights to the show. So that particular aspect is confirmed to be true
As per AWOIAF there were 18 living dragons that participated in the dance of the dragon. Also, the idea that the dragons can't be controlled is basically just a bs way of absolving the idiocities committed by Targaryen elite..
Idk it’s not like Aemond is blameless for the death of Luke. Also it’s clear they can control the dragons to an extent, but they’re also wild animals and will act accordingly when they feel threatened.
The dragons are bonded to the rider in battle the riders are tense scared & angered. They are protecting the rider. The riders where also panicked and not speaking valerian commands
I agree but I Think that was more for the fans of the show who are just that and dont read the books etc. and gave them a way to “connect” GoT to this. Either way I can’t wait for season 2
This highlights one of the biggest issues I have with HoD, I already know who dies, who lives, who kills who, which dragons will die and when and to who. I mean it is still entertaining but what is really the point
Ngl 8 wish they would show all 21 dragons but unfortunately dragons like Shrykos, Morghul, Grey Ghost and Morning may never be shown due to the fact that they don’t play a major role
What did the white walkers do with the babies once they turned? They never went into detail about it on game of thrones. Did they grow up to be adult walkers? Did they eat them? What were their purposes? Seems a strategic error to keep babies around that can’t fend for themselves. I need answers!
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@@gingerbaker_toad696oh really? George has more complex characters that Tolkien's dumb ones
@@Dolorous_Edd if someone as smart as you says so..😅
The confusion is end today's episode 3
Aenar the Exile was father of Gaemon the Glorious and his sister wife Daenys the Dreamer
We really deserve a series featuring Aegon's conquest of Westeros and more.
We don't deserve it, it'll be a privilege.
Jaehaerys and all his kids Would b insane
Yea I want that, or the story of the Doom.
Yes an Hebert cavil or be a perfect aegon the conqueror
I would love to see more of the realm like the Far East and all the crazy places
After hearing more about the prophecy and the dagger the more I realize john should have killed the knight king not arya
D & D only chose Arya because of the possible cliche of the hero thing, not because it was right. They even claimed that they had set it up in season 3 with the whole moment with Arya and Melisandre, which most knew was bs. It was just them trying to put their favorites in front.
They failed us
Don't like to talk about season 8, it's to painful
Jon should have killed the night king and Arya should have killed Cersei in revenge for Ned… would have been much more satisfying
But that just wouldn't feeeeel right
Its incredible that somebody wrote all these stories out of their imagination
GoT famously adapted from War of the Roses.
@@daisysw3147 nah more inspiration and it's better than war of the roses 🤷🏾♂️
I agree. To put together all these different families and different people with so many different paths into one story is just fantastic
@@daisysw3147 The author literally made up an entire history of multiple civilizations from another world. I think we’ve surpassed the inspiration part 😂
@daisysw3147 yes War of the Roses is a big influence for GRRM and the story in general, but he took that inspiration and created an entire world around it, full of incredibly complex people, families, politics, religions, organizations, brotherhoods, magic and mythical creatures. He took inspiration from a real life historical event and built a dynamic, beautiful and intricate world around it
I think it's less of a misunderstanding and more that Alicent heard what she wanted to hear.
the king didn’t know he was talking to alicent
That part annoys me so much and yes Alicent heard what she wanted to hear . Obviously her son doesn’t dream of anything other jerking off
All I keep thinking was: Which Aegon? Considering that Rhaenyra and Daemon talked to him earlier and he met Aegon III and Viserys for the first time? What if that dream he kept talking about actually showed his grandson and he realized it, when he saw him for the first time? He was about to die. Maybe he didn't even realize, that he was talking to Alicent and not Rhaenyra.
@@franziskaways4956 this what I was questioning too. I just finished the show and my thought was like "are they not aware?" But in the last episode Otto mentioned it. So they knew that there's another Aegon. So how can Alicent assumed that it was about her lad? I think we need season 2 ASAP.
I thought Alicent didn't care about what she heard, only that Viserys died and SHE was the one who witnessed it and the queen, so she knew they'd listen to her no matter what she said, so she put her son on the throne.
It's really a shame the producers of GoT rushed the ending and basically killed all the character building that had been happening. They completely missed the ball for John, aka aegon aka the prince that was promised, with letting Arya kill the knight king
Someone got greedy. Maybe it was a new contract or the idea of a new series with the Targarians (?) As stars. I can't think of why it would have been so bad after all the season's before. There were new writers. Must have been.
@@peggyhall843 d&d were trying to rush to finish so they could start writing the batman movie at the time but the script got shot down after all the fan hate from game of thrones.....its a bitter sweet moment. I hate D&D
Shut up. They didn’t rush anything
Arya killing the night king was fine. When they sent Jon back to the wall I literally almost turned the show off, absolute idiots.
@@True_Judah and when they make that useless broken lad as a leader, they turned us into clowns if not it's already an entire circus in front of us.
The scene with daemon singing and the dragon breathing fire was one of my favorite scenes! It was so badass! 🔥🔥 and I think daemons dragon makes the coolest roars!
It was Vermithor , Former King Jaehaery's dragon
@@princenirmal4197 yeah I couldn’t remember his name. But it was a dope scene! Isn’t he the 2nd biggest and oldest dragon?
@@kentbeitel9966 3rd biggest
I like Daemon's dragon the most. I like the long lanky look and how incredibly scary it looks. It would probably be one of the greatest dragons ever if it had more time to grow. Vhagar was twice as big and strong and Caraxes still took Vhagar out with him just by pure ferocity
@@chipmunk1227 caraxes was puree legend a perfect fit for it's rider
Watching this video after season 2 is out:
"Harrenhal isn't cursed at all"
Daemon: 🤡🤡🤡
Came to make this comment lol. Glad someone else heard that
Or you could put that down to Targaryen madness
now thats what im talking about, that poor man was stuck there for 7 whole episodes T_T just get your stuff and get tf out of there Deamon
😂😂😂
Harrenhal was built in a region with many heart trees and many of them were cut down during construction, because these trees are sacred only to those who worship the old gods and this sacrilege is the origin of the curse.
Both shows do a very poor job of dealing with the mystical side of the story, especially regarding the old gods. The curse of Harrenhal may or may not be real, it is a matter of faith for the characters.
Ah yes. When Rhanerya turns back around to face us, she has that “I’m gonna do some War Crimes now” look on her face.
LMFAOOOO
Hell hath no fury than a scorned pissed off woman
"Fire it is"
Either that or shes pinching a loaf
she had that school shooter face look since she was portrayed by that big headed girl
We need an old Valyria series. Imagine finding out the Targaryens weren’t even the most powerful or had the largest dragons
They weren't even that powerful in old Valyria , no greater than most of the other dragonlords
You wouldn't have to imagine if you read the book.
It would be a southern based people, we have BBC (big blazing carnivores).
They were one of the lesser families that managed to escape bc of a prophetic dream.
@@flipflopperson4493wrong af, reading is all about imagining. You mean they wouldn’t have to imagine it if it was a show.
The dagger must have been taken as a spoil of war after Robert's Rebellion. Then it somehow made it's way into Baelish's hands.
Baelish won it in a game of cards from Robert.
I don't see how it gets forgotten that it was a dagger that belonged to Aegon the freaking Conqueror. That would increase its value considerably, especially as the more impressive valerian steel swords aren't hanging around.
@@eggled1566 because it’s kept as a secret and the secret only gets passed down from heir to heir
And truly it did still all stick. the dagger says
"From my blood will come the Prince That Was Promised, and his will be the Song of Ice and Fire."
He is the one that truly united ice (white walkers) and fire (Daenerys stormborn)
He did unite them which was what the dagger said the prince (which he was) would do
@@scotthollars1555Jon is ice and Fire himself. Stark and Targaryen. Winter is coming and Fire and Blood in one person.
I think this could be why the prophecy was lost and not well known in GOT. Only Rhaenyra was told and she couldn’t pass it on to her heir because of the war.
Makes sense!
but jon snow managed to unite everyone against white walkers
So prophecy was fulfilled
she told it to her son Jace , as seen in HOtD s02e04
@@dm3ris well he is gonna die in future, if they go by books....because danaerys was told to be the ancestor of daemon and rhaenyra, and jace wasnt daemons son.... so he dies, and so does joffery, and line continues by aegon 3 i gues...
Joffrey is just the best.. his mannerism from that little clip at the start... he makes u wanna headbutt ya television 🤣 brilliant acting 👏🏾
Some people ensue love inside you, then there's Joeffrey. You just WANT TO slap the shit out of him every time he appears on the screen😂
@@thv353 🤣🤣🤣
@@rottieshepcalibre9156the
King is a lost cause 😂 - tyrion
One could already see in GoT that Daenery´s didn´t have full control of her dragons... It´s nothing new... in GoT Drogon left her stranded after the riots in the middle of nowwhere and she locked them up because she couldn´t control them
And later you can see that the bond between Daenerys and Drogon became one, because Drogon can understand what Dany wants and feel, even when the show killed her.
And locking them up stunted their growth and development. A dragon is not a slave, nor should they be a prisoner
She locked the other 2 up because they burned a child alive
It was believed then that knowledge was lost over the centuries and that there was specific ways to keep them in control, but I guess that was proven wrong now.
@@eddiegreencheez Stunted their growth in theory, yet their are still bigger than lots of the adult dragons in HOTD? Something isn’t adding up with Dany’s dragons
What pains me is that in the end, it was Rhaenyra's son Aegon iii who sat the throne, the dance was completely useless, the death of so many Targaryens and the end of dragons all for the same result that would've happened without it too, it's just heartbreaking.
In Fact Aegon III was the true Targariyan Son of Rhaenyra and Daemon. So he was in fact the True targaryen King. Other Brothers were Strong.
@@tahirqazi6656egon III has a younger brother named Viserys and his older brothers are Velaryons and his older sisters are Targaryens and a stillborn younger sister Visenya . So he has 6 siblings
@@tahirqazi6656they were Targaryen
Blame the Hightower twats
Blame pushover Viserys for his numerous dumb decisions.
Herrenhalls curses isn’t from Aegons conquest, it’s from it Harrenhalls construction, the blood of the slaves and others who built it is mixed into to concrete of every stone, from the point of it’s completion it was believed to be cursed
It’s proximity to the Isle of Faces has lead to some theories that the land itself was cursed long before Harrenhall was even constructed.
The Dance Of The Dragons is awesome story material. However I agree a show just about Aegon's Conquest would of been epic. Focus the first season on the Targaryen's & Velaryon's fleeing the Old Valyrian Freehold, and The Doom unfolding. Show the settling of Dragonstone & Driftmark. Probably a lot of time jumps, but let the first season end with the birth of Aegon The Conqueror.
Probably it wouldnt be too smart to do a season on the scape from Valyrian (plot wise and budget wise). There's like 7 generations between Daenys the dreamer and Aenar and Aegon the Conqueror. Maximum a flashback or a starting episode... then Right to Aegon having a dream and waking up, speaks with his sister wifes (which after having being safed by the dreams of Daenys take Aegon's dream seriously) and they all agree they have to conquer Westeros. Then, they begin the conquest. That would tied up with HoTD tv show as well.
Plus there isn’t a lot of material to draw on to make a show about that escape from the Doom
While I agree the should've started with aegons conquest what your describing isn't that it's the Targaryen escape to westeros which would be a good prequel after the conquest
There is just so much material for spin offs👀 The Valyrian Freehold, The Age of Dawn, The Rhoynar fleeing to Westeros, The Long Night… I just got through the first chapters of The World of Ice and Fire and oml the in-universe is VAST😅
I want the story of the first men and the wall!!
100% agree all the families and different factions are enough to fuel many slims offs on its own
Shireen wasn't aware she's talking about her ancestors. Robert and his brothers were part Targaryen. I think S2 opens in Winterfell or Harrenhal.
Most of the nobles are at some point related to each other through various marriage pacts. Especially the great Houses.
The only direct ancestor she had in the Dance was Borros Baratheon, cousin of Rhaenys Targaryen.
@@ferrm1992 Not true, look at the Robert, stanis, and renly, then look at bonebreaker strong, same manner of looks, face from anywhere can be linked to any northern family. The real blood is the Starks and strongs, they relate to almost every house.. the seed is strong has alot of meanings behind it. It related to house strong. Stark in german.. Translates. STRONG. Strongs are 1st men, from the north, that traveled from the north. Bonebreaker almost has his sons put on throne. They are related to many familes. Some say all, but it is clear where Martin is going with the strong family. He has included them more and more as the books go further in.
@@ferrm1992 not really. A sister or daughter of Aegon V married Ormund Baratheon (Grandfather of Robert, Stannis and Renly)
But when you trace Rhaenyra's line, all of it ended with Dany and Jon Snow, no Baratheon at all, the Baratheon ended somewhere in their relatives of Targaryens yes but that family ended just there..they may have Targaryen relative but just the spouse and the children that ended then and then
Rhaenyra's fate is revealed in that short scene between Joffrey and Margery, including exactly how she died.
That is going to hurt so bad. I wonder where exactly they will end HotD.
EHHH maybe that's just what the Lannisters and Baratheons spread over time.
It's in the book lmao
@@AcAlbo I know. 😭
How does she die?
I wouldn’t mind a series about the Blackfyre Rebellions. No dragons, but lots of epic battles and political scheming. Could also show us how Brynden Rivers/Bloodraven ended up becoming the Three-Eyed Raven/Crow (I got a soft spot for Bloodraven, he’s one of my favorite characters as far the books go).
What book is the blackfyre rebellion based on?
@@comfort7575 there are no narrative books that cover it, but the Knight of Seven Kingdoms (Dunk and Egg) deals with the fallout from the first Rebellion and literally occurs during the Second Blackfyre Rebellion.
I read somewhere that Dunk and Egg is on work, so maybe we'll meet Bloodraven soon
Aegons conquest is definitely my frontrunner for a new show
@@comfort7575 you should check out 'The World of Ice and Fire' which is like a history book about Westeros, Essos and other parts of this World
The Velaryons did not flee alongside the Targaryens from Valyria, they were at Driftmark even before that
Yea; So were the celtigars
They need to make a series about Valyria and the Doom.
With some ancient gang bangs
@compilationhub54help😭
I've been saying that for MONTHS!!!
My fam and I just said this last night 🤣
We definitely deserve to see Balerion the dread in flight... 🐲
vhagar in house of the dragon is the same size as balerion was when he died.
@@AbduZadjali na I’m pretty sure it’s factual that Balerion was twice the size of vhagar when he was still alive
@@JamesHightower18 i’vs read fire and blood, the writer states so himself.
And The Cannibal is bigger than the two combined B)
I would love to see Balerion and even more so, Cannibal
We really deserve a series about the origins of Valyrian Steel and the Valyrian Freehold.
It could also give us some insight on the Great Empire of the Dawn who were the 1st of the Dragonriders.
I think the dragons connection to the rider is almost like a best friend you consider a brother. He cares about you, feels how you feel, wants to protect you but at the end of the day you don't control them they ultimately decide what to do and although you usually listen to your best friend imagine being punched in the face and your friend (rider) said don't do anything back out of anger you may not listen to whatever your friends reason is.
The thing I called out was that earlier in that episode Daemon questioned how they were taking care of Viserys’ having him drugged out of his mind, in which Alicent said something along the lines of “we keep him on milk of the poppy to help with the pain and in doing so it causes him to ramble”.
So if he was constantly drugged out and just said nonsensical things, why would him saying anything to imply Aegon should be on the Iron Throne be taking seriously?
Like girl go prop ya feet up somewhere.
Also, this series made it all the more depressing that the finale of the Wight Walkers in Season 8 was so lame. There was apparently hundreds of years and a plot driving prophecy.
all indications in books and show, points to prophecy as misleading, and was intentionally created to destroy targs and their dragons.
I know people don't really find it super interesting but I would love to see Robert's Rebellion. It's a big deal and sure no dragons but it can still be good and can probably make it 2 seasons
Me too , I thought that was a great part in the Targaryen history , the death of the Mad King Aerys by Jamie Lannister , etc.. and is this THE Christopher Florio? THE Richard Florio’s nephew? 😎😉
Rhaegar and Robert Baratheons solo fight was epic.
@@robinpreese no I don't think so. I get that a lot though I think Florio is a common last name. You Italian?
I too would love to see Roberts rebellion turned into a TV series. I'm even hoping that at the end of house of the dragon we get an episode telling us a story leading up to king Aerys and the start of him going mad, which could lead to a series about Roberts rebellion
house celtigar and house velaryon were both in westeros before the targaryens and were from valyria. However, they were not dragon lord families so they had no dragons. But House Qoherys and Belaerys also escaped the doom. Though House Qoherys were one of the families that held harrenhal and died from the curse and belaerys had a few survivors of the doom, along with their dragon terrax. But I don't believe they are around in the song of ice and fire main series.
house Celtigar actually appears in episode 10 of HotD. lord Bartimos Celtigar is a member of rhaenyra's Black council
@@NvardQueen I know, they just weren't mentioned in the list when velaryon was
House Belarys went extinct when Aurion, the dragonlord of Qohor tried to conquer Valyria but disappeared along with his dragon.
Sweet I want to know about those other houses.
The way Emma plays Rhaenyra is just chefs kiss. I wish we would of got a little more info with some things in season 1 but I like HotD way better
That’s how bad D&D screwed up GOT. It left everything else seem like a masterpiece compared to the last couple of seasons. (I really like HOTD)
Would be so cool to have so many series of so many different times in the GOT world! There is so much content that could be made! It could go on for years to come and be one of the greatest franchise to exist! Ughhh give us more!!
Imagine also jumping forward in time like the supposed SNOW show
im sure they will because of the succes of got and hotd
Looking back at this now, Harrenhal is most definitely haunted
Season 2 confirms that harrenhall is diabolicallly cursed lmaoo
Luke, when arrax punches vhagar in the nose, has the most authentic valyrian I've heard.
yesss. Aemond on the other hand.
Aww I felt so bad for Lucerys and Arrax 😢 they were both so little compared to Vhagar
My personal top 5, picking only from the ones we've seen in live action
1. Meleys
2. Syrax
3. Drogon
4. Caraxes
5. Vhagar
After watching Game of Thrones, everyone thought that Rhaenyra wanted to seize the throne that originally belonged to men on a whim, but her inheriting the throne was just the result of Viserys' stubborness. She had no choice in the matter as long as Viserys said so and prepared her for it, so her defending her right was the logical thing to do after the greens stabbed her in the back. Had he named Aegon in her stead, they could have had a relationship at least a bit close to the relationship Jaehaerys had with his elder sister, Rhaena, even though at times she felt wronged by being passed over in the succession. Perhaps if Viserys named Aegon his heir, then his relationship with his older sister wouldn't have been so tense, and the greens wouldn't have conspired against her.
Aerys was actually talking about White Walkers, when he said "Burn them all"
Harrenhal isn't necessarily cursed. It's just a castle that's far too large to be supported by the meager lands it controls.
Harren the Black took tributes from the Iron Islands and the Riverlands.
Immediately after the conquest, Harrenhal's lands were greatly diminished, making it comparable in tributes to Riverrun.
During Maegor's reign, he diminished the lands further, giving parts of those lands to other lords loyal to him.
7 kingdoms didn't reunite in the long night battle. It was only the north and dany's army (kudos to jamie representing the "westeros")
I would bet more dragons are alive in different places we have not heard of. There's no way such a powerful empire didn't have people scattered all over the world.
Valyria had enemies to the east who have powerful forces that would eliminate dragons, as well as weather that debilitates them. The Free Cities were established without dragonriders, so that would preclude them.
So it just confirms that it should have been Jon Snow (Aegon) to have face off with the Night King and kill him. He was the prince who was promised. Damn season 8 really f’ed up
Jon's duty was to unit the realm and he did that arya was a plot twist which actually neither effects the prophecy nor makes sense
@@awarabhopali it’s just years and season after season displaying that Jon and the NK were destined to face off against one another. Now that HOD confirms that cats paw dagger was passed down from heir to heir, it was meant for Jon (Aegon) to own it really.
I really thought it would be Arya would be the one to kill Daenerys, because I truly dont believe Jon would ever be able to do that himself. And we were all cheated by not getting the showdown between Jon and the Night King. Hopefully the Jon Snow series is able to correct that somehow.
not it doesn't confirm any such thing . you are assuming prophecy is correct. in fact all indications in books and show, points to prophecy as misleading, and was intentionally created to destroy targs and their dragons.
@@Chingon559 see that would have made a lot more sense.
8:00 I've always equated Dragon binding with Wargs and Wolf dreams.
Fun fact: The inspiration behind "House of the Dragon" comes from an actual dynasty in real life. The dynasty was House of Drăculești and was a Romanian dynasty of Principality of Wallachia. The dynasty started with Vlad Dracul the father of more famous ruler Vlad the Impaler (Vlad Dracula, "son of the Dragon"). The family originated from House of Basarab the founders of Wallachia, in which the Principality is located in modern day Romania and currently the Capital is located in its region. The name Drăculești means Dragon as Dracul in Old Romanian language ment Dragon but now means Devil. It was generally believed that Vlad Dracul was part of the Order of the Dragon, a Christian Order ment to stop the expansion of the Ottoman Empire into Europe. But now due to a document, it mentions a certain Mihail who came to the court of Sigismund asking to become part of the order and he was Prince of Wallachia. Vlad Draculs oldest son and older brother of Vlad the Impaler whose name is Miahi was the one who founded the Dynasty of the Dragon (Drăculești). The name Drăcul-ești could be put this way, Drăcul in the sense of Dragon and ești is in Romanian and originates from Latin ēscō meaning in English "you're" which the name could be translated as "You're Dragon"
nah. it has nothing to with romanians. Dragons were mentioned by other Nations of different variety. China, Scandinavian folklore and many ohers. GRR Martin right A song of Ice and Fire for a fantasy like story of England History. Think of Night King = William Wallace, Lannistrr = Lancaster, Stark = York, Targaryens = Vikings and Dragonboats were their ship equivalent to their mount. First men = Gauls, Children of the Forest were Celts. Dragons was also the emblem of Wales, did u know? Even Bhutan and Malta. Nevertheless, Dragons were only a personification of feared Race and Greed for Gold like the Vikings
All I keep thinking was: Which Aegon? Considering that Rhaenyra and Daemon talked to him earlier and he met Aegon III and Viserys for the first time? What if that dream he kept talking about actually showed his grandson and he realized it, when he saw him for the first time? He was about to die. Maybe he didn't even realize, that he was talking to Alicent and not Rhaenyra.
From my blood will come the Prince that was promised, and his will be the song of ice and fire….or maybe he won’t and he just kinda won’t matter much in the end.
Let’s not forget the dragons in the books, the wild dragons including Hannibal who is said to feed on other dragons so overall like 25 dragons more which will appear in season 2
The Cannobal is actually supposed to be larger than even Balerion
@@sheverley he's literally not lol
Spoiler: He didn't appear
David lightbringer has an amazing series about the doom of Valeria and what happened to the Targaryens during and afterwards that would make for a great show. I hope they continue making more on screen stories from this interesting world GRRM has created.
I think the fact the dragons were born with her she had a better connection
it was also the blood magic that bonded her to the eggs. The Targaryens have a tradition of putting a dragon egg in the crib with a newborn, so Daenerys literally had 3 eggs with her.
It's not always the case with dragonriders, as Leana Velaryon only gained Vhagar at 15, and Rheanyra actively looks for adult dragon riders for the old wild dragons
Yes, they think they're her babies. It's a different bond as any pet owner knows.
The answer to #9 was strictly scripted for the two TV shows (GoT and HotD) to tie into one another. "A Song of Ice and Fire" series, "Fire and Blood" as well as Martin's newest publication; "The Rise of the Dragon," do not state Aegons conquest came about because of the impending threat of the white walkers. In fact, the night King doesn't even exist in AsoIaF yet, he may never for all we know. George has also spoke recently about how the ending of GoT will be different than the novels as he has made some creative decisions writing the last two novels that steer away from how the TV series concluded. While I do think it was a clever way to validate each of the shows within the GoT world, I want people to understand that it does differ from the original source material.
Well... I'm almost certain the Jon Snow spinoff will have him finally finish off the white walkers for good
Exactly!!
I think rhey are pretty much dead. But what could happen is that there is more creatures like ice spiders and ice dragons etc hidden away in the lands of always winter and Jon could be exploring that
I think one other thing was answered. Whether Tyrion is a Targeryan or not. They made an emphasis on birth complications when it comes to their kids and mixed with the hints given in game of thrones I felt that is probably true now and hope that comes into play in new Jon Snow spin off.
Tyrion was not only born a dwarf but with different colored eyes and hair with deformed genitals.
Tyrions mom which was tywin lanisters wife got raped by the mad king. So that makes tyrion half targarion and half whatever his mom was before the marriage.
Dont forget House Celtigar were also a family and house of old Valyria and a vassal house of the Targaryans in Westeros residing at Claw Isle. Rumor has it thst House Celtigar are in possession of a Valaryian steel double headed axe .Sweet
Just because Larys ordered their deaths it doesn’t mean harrenhal is not cursed. I always took it to mean that whoever held the seat would befall a terrible fate. You see this with Lord Strong, Larys, Janos slynt, Littlefinger etc
The Targaryens and Velaryons weren’t actually the only houses to survive. There was a third. House Celtigar was also from Old Valyria, although they were not highborn. The Celtigars were no more than peasants in Valyria, but when they fled to Westeros they landed on Claw Isle and became lords. Unlike the Velaryons, they never married members of House Targaryen, but they were commonly given seats on the Small Council, usually as Master of Coin. They also have a Valyrian steel axe.
7:08 That slap 😂
I think Viserys’ death has to do with the way Aerea Targeryan died. I think something or disease that was affecting Balerion that rubbed off on them hence the similar(to some extent) deaths.
No it was explained what happened to aerea it wasn’t from balerion it was their journey to old Valeria where there are unspoken horrors there one of which she got (fire parasites)
Viserys died from a from of leprosy, according to his actor. Aerea Targaryen died of a horrible disease that seemed to resemble greyscale, the green fever and skin cancer. Balerion was heavily wounded from the flight by unknown forces. Anything that could wound the Black Dread is frightening enough.
To see Arrax’s little self hit Vhagar with the flame in his face and then try to fly away, pretty much sealed their fates right there. Vhagar couldn’t be controlled and was done playing games at that point 😂😂
Nothing will ever beat the cast and dynamics or the original GoT series....seeing The Hound at the beginning of this video reminded me of that hard truth.
Still, HoTD was great. Hopefully the Jon Snow spinoff series gets made.
I want series on Aegons conquest.
there were early discussions of an anthology but HBO scrapped that out as it will panned the fans like the walking dead did to their franchise (3-4 series concurrently airing at one point making over saturation to viewers).
maybe we will get one at a time but not all at once.
Eh, I feel like that would be really boring. It’s basically Aegon and his sister-wives show in Westeros and wreck everyone with their dragons. The only interesting thing that actually happened was Rhaenys and her dragon getting shot down in Dorne. Besides that, it’s a really straightforward and kind of boring story.
@@Garrus1995 how about a Movie ?🤔
@@Garrus1995 well a history about Valeria is lit for me firewyrns wyerns, how and who made dragons, dragons bigger than balerion as you know before the doom the sky was ruled by 300+ dragons and aegon's family was a mid size lord family
The song of ice and fire is the story of Jons birth being born from the Houses of Ice (Stark) and Fire (Targaryen) he is the Prince of prophecy that the Targaryens sang in secrecy for centuries, also his own father Rhaegar had a beautiful voice and ultimately thats how he swooned Lyanna Stark
Well show wise he is but GrrM quite literally said “the stuff going on at the wall is (ice) and dany and her dragons are (fire)”. I believe Daenerys was the original asoiaf/ Azor Ahai but D&D messed it up.
Can I just point out the stellar performance the actor of Joffrey (Jack Gleeson). There were times I forgot he was acting I hated him so much, played a spectacular villain character, and will probably go down as one of the “best” in terms of sheer hatred.
'Arya killing the Wight King' is by having a Targaryen or a half-Targaryen marrying into House Stark and passing the bloodline. Otherwise, based on the prophecy, it should have been Jon Snow to deal the final blow.
Prophecies aren't always 100% correct. As an example, during Viserys and Aemma's dialogue he told her he saw their son ascending the Iron Throne. Aegon's prophecy also does not specifically say that it will be the Prince of his blood that will kill the NK, it says the Prince will unite the realm and lead the fight. Jon somewhat accomplished both to some degree.
@@cyber2cyke agree, except jon didn't actually united the westeros, only northern kingdom and queen dany (with one baratheon, and 2 lannisters). That was like 4/8 of the regions.
@@cypr7120 Hence the words somewhat and to some degree. He was able to get a (very) temporary truce which again backs what I said that prophecies aren't 100%.
What if the king of the Whight walkers isn't dead and is again shown in the Jon snow series and it turns out to be someone from House of the dragons. What if there wasn't only one night king.
Just give a thought to my words
Brian and arya were Bastards from blood raven bcz lady stark was fed of jon's existence and cheated on ned as a revenge. Now we know how arya was ahai and brian became next raven
Aegon's conquest and Doom of Valyria, those two things I would like to see on screen. Even if they only make a cartoon about it.
Now I really want to see a series showing us The Age of Heroes
the intro to this video should be, if you have watched house of dragons already, "dont watch this you already know most of this"
I feel like the whole dagger thing would have tied in perfectly with Bran becoming the Night King.
Why else would the assassin sent to kill Bran have the dagger that killed the Night King?
CORRECT!!! 💯💯
Have you ever wonder why the three eyed raven trap in the North? Bcoz 3 Eyed Raven is probably the only one who knows to dispel the Curse after the War of the First Men. Theres must be something amiss between their contract. So 3eyed raven, always find a way for escape through Hodor, Madking, and many others. The Night King was the weapon of the Children of the Forest to reclaim their homeland from the First Men
Here are my questions for you that are still unanswered. Answer if you can:
1. Who were faceless men: humans, gods, murderers, sorcerers or something else?
2. Why Jaqen Hghar helped Arya in Harrenhal.
3. Who was Quaithe and what was her purpose?
4. Who was Kinvara and what was her purpose?
5. Why white walkers murder people and put the bodies in an specific spiral shape that looks like Targaryen sigil or the gods wood?
6. What did Bran become after downloading all the information from three eyed raven and who infact was the three eyed raven and what role did he play in the history of weteros?
7. How exactly the Doom of Valyria happened and what triggered it?
8. How people of Valyria first came into contact of the dragons?
9. Out of all the gods that were worshipped by different people all over westeros and essos which one is real : like God of fire, the drowned god, the old gods, the seven gods or if no god exists in that world?
10. How Thoros of Myr used to make Berric alive each time after his death?
So, as I´m not in the matter entirely I´m not sure how precise my answers are going to be, but I´ll give it a try. If you're really interested, there are also yt videos to most of these questions.
1. the faceless men are seemingly simply assassins who worship death, and therefore believe that only life can pay for death?
2. Arya saved Jaqen Hghar earlier in the show and 2 other prisoners, so for saving these three lives, he offered to take 3 others.
4. If I recall correctly, Kinvara was simply one of the priestesses sent out to preach of the lord of light.
8. The Valyrians were known to mix species, resulting in hybrid forms, using blood magic, which is supposedly similar to today's genetic engineering. In order to create dragons, they mixed the naturally occurring wythers and wyrms (not sure if those two are spelled correctly), using said blood magic. They then proceeded to bind the valerian houses to the dragons using blood magic, resulting in them actually having dragon blood. This is also the reason why the Targaryans try to keep their bloodline as "pure" as possible, as intermarriage with non-valerian houses would "dilute" their blood, and weaken their bond to the dragons.
9. I don't think that the situation with the gods is ever entirely explained, but each of the ancient "races" has a connection to a certain type of magic, which they, later on, refer to as their gods. The Targaryans have their fire magic, and the lord of light, the north, descending from the first men have their animal possession and the old gods etc.
@@Genastor your reply to point no 8 is somewhat correct and reply to point no 9 is 30% correct. For rest you know nothing. Nobody does. GRRM himself has not given any answers to these burning questions yet and I want them in upcoming books. The show was perfect in each aspect except that they also failed to give reply to these questions and not their fault too as they had no clue about them since everything came out of mind of GRRM and at a certain stage the show crossed the books.
Also let me be clear no RUclips video is there to explain first few questions.
@@tarunshukla00 we got some insight into Kinvara in the show, and many of the other questions were discussed in previous books
@@Genastor Discussed but not answered.
Aren't all the gods real?
"Harrenhall isn't cursed at all"
Harrenhall in season 2: "Hold my beer......Daemon"
Vhagar counts as three dragons by herself.
all that for arya to jump out of nowhere and danerys to go bat shit crazy 💀💀
What I want to know is why they got rid of all the extra sword carpets around the iron throne!
hard to move and sit on...
I love this! Definitely didn't notice the facts about the knife, Wow
As a book reader I still have two big questions. One is why do the seasons last so long and my second one is not what happened at Summerhall but why did it happen? We know it burnt down because of Egg and dragon eggs but how were they trying to hatch dragons and how did it get out of control?
Egg apparently tried to use wildfire and Essosi magic, but as with all things fire related it went out of control.
The seasons seem to reflect a planet that has a slow orbit, with calendars determined by artificial rather than natural measures. People have regular namedays despite the seasons.
@@SantomPh thank you George Martin for answering my questions. Now I don't have to read your books.
Seasons of TV used to be in the 20s lol.
Very informative content. Thanks 👍😊
The *Greens* have *6* Dragons ( *_Dreamfyre, Vhagar, Sunfyre, Tessarion, Morghul and Shrykos_* ) not 4 and the *Blacks* have 9, now *8* dragons ( *_Caraxes, Syrax, Meleys, Vermax, Tyraxes, Moondancer, Morning (a baby) and Stormcloud (baby) // Arrax but is dead_* ). From these, ready to fight, the Greens have 4 and the Blacks 5 or 6. The unclaimed ones and wild ones do not count yet as being on Rhaenyra's side ( _Vermithor, Silverwing, Seasmoke; Sheepstealer, Grey Ghost, Cannibal_ ) since they have no rider and the riders can choose which side they want to be on.....
Technically a Targaryen did unite the divided groups of men to defeat the others.
I’ve been rewatching GoT for the first time in a while and I had totally forgot about the MASSIVE spoiler Joffrey says in season 3 about what happens in HotD…I was so pissed!!! 😂 I mean I would have found out eventually because I have Fire and Blood but now the show AND the book have been slightly spoiled. I am excited to see how it all u folds though….
GOT is better then House of the Dragon in my opinion think it's mainly due to the characters and different locations used in the series.And the writing is a bit better not to say HOD isn't any good just a bigger fan of GOT I just finished watching it for the 4th time lol
@@superunknown2812 that's not really a fair comparison to make at this point in time. Game of thrones has 8 seasons of content to assess whereas house of the dragon has only one. Instead you should compare the first season of each series - in which house of the dragon really gives GOT a run for its money. While i wouldn't say its better than S1 of game of thrones, it comes extremely close, and is much better the the shit show that is season 6, 7, and 8 of GOT. The writing in HOTD is amazing and each character is very well written (just as GOT 1-4 was). If HOTD keeps this standard up through its whole duration it will be a really good comparison to make between the two shows.
@Marcus Lee fair enough yes just wondering what the plan is to take it so far in terms of storylines
@@marcuslee698 it’s not close bro, sorry but recency bias is clouding you.
@@deedstaar7520 Not at all... I generally dont see what they couldve done better in season 1 - which is why I said if they keep up the quality in the seasons coming, it can definitely reach he highs of GOT
I love this! Answering or clarifying the confusion and questions.
I can't wait to hear everyone complain about Rhaenyra's fate in House of the Dragon, when Game of Thrones has already told us what happened to her years ago. Unless, of course, they change it from the book or GOT.
It would be a bad decision to change the story. The ending of game of thrones is proof of that. They showed that jon or Dany can be the prince that was promised, on several occasions they hyped a sword fight between night king and Jon just to end with Arya jumping out of nowhere and killing the night king.
An epic duel between John and night-king was the major missing part of GOT. The build up of sequel & evolution of the characters was that perfect be since the start of show
Literally nothing in this show proved that Harrenhal wasn't cursed.
House Velarion and house Celtigar are both from Valyria as well. With the difference that they survive after Robert rebellion
... WatchMojo acting like most A Song of Ice and Fire fans didn't know that Celtigar and Velaryon escaped the Doom too. That was never an unanswered question.
My guy literally specified she was only referring to the TV shows and not the books.
True but not the GOT series fans who just watched the show and never explored the lore. I have a few friends like that whose knowledge of that universe comes strictly from the GOT series.
How many people watching the show do you think have read the books?
I feel like control of the dragons depends on the rider's control of themselves. Drogon and Dany synced up after riding because it's more of an empathic bond. When she looses control, her dragon does as well because it is her strongest bidding. We see this with Aemond Vhagar. He may have not really meant to kill him, he may have, but in that moment he absolutely meant harm, even if to terrify and injure. Vhagar does not distinguish the subtleties and knows what her rider's actions hope to achieve and does so at the basest level she knew how. To kill.
We also see it with Luke's dragon when he yells "Serve me!" Luke may want to command the dragon but overall he wanted out of the situation; which is what the dragon acted on.
Hope we will see The Mad King saga someday.
BURN THEM ALL!!!!
@@mvader7188 I actually wonder after watching HoD... maybe Mad King last words was reffering to the white walkers ?
@@paulstokowski1466 which one are you referring to since in the books he never says burn them all
House Celtigar is the third Valyrian Houses to have escaped the Doom. They're sort of the poor cousin compared to the Targaryens and Velaryons, but they kept faith with Rhaenyra.
Turns out Harrenhal is cursed.
One member of House Kipagon survived as well. Aurion Kipagon was in Quohor I believe (or maybe that’s just where he raised his army to reclaim Valyria) when he heard of it. He left for Valyria with this army never to be seen again. But it’s believed his dragon survived, and is the reason that Baelerion came back injured when visiting Valyria with Aerea Targeryan.
Now can you all see that Daenerys can be the princess that was promised, Viserys said it and the prophecy too besides Jon Snow is not a Targaryen in the books.
Then why Aegon specified the gender in his prophecy "Prince - male"
@@princenirmal4197 no, Viserys was talking about the vision Aegon I have had when he was alive not about Jon Snow, you people don’t put attention and he said to Rhaenyra that she’s the one that had to seat in the iron throne in case the walkers attacks and that means that a woman can be the prince or Princess that was promised also Jon Snow till the 5 book is not mention that he is a Targaryen.
@@MrDavidSosa Actually i think Jon was revived for the sole reason...and also the showrunners confirmed it that he was the prince who was promised
@@princenirmal4197 the show does not follow the event that happens in the books and after season 5 everything is invented by the two people who ruined GOT and like I said before, the prophecy clearly said that can be a woman too.
Well yes the show often doesn't follow the books or change things but it was confirmed years ago that GRRM asked the showrunners who the thought Jon's parents were and they apparently gave the right answer or they wouldn't have gotten the rights to the show. So that particular aspect is confirmed to be true
I'd like to see a series about the origins of the children of the forest
As per AWOIAF there were 18 living dragons that participated in the dance of the dragon.
Also, the idea that the dragons can't be controlled is basically just a bs way of absolving the idiocities committed by Targaryen elite..
Idk it’s not like Aemond is blameless for the death of Luke. Also it’s clear they can control the dragons to an extent, but they’re also wild animals and will act accordingly when they feel threatened.
@@seancarterx It's a metaphor for the nuclear weapons that overshadowed GRRM's youth. The Cuban Missile Crisis was just one of a few close calls.
The dragons are bonded to the rider in battle the riders are tense scared & angered. They are protecting the rider. The riders where also panicked and not speaking valerian commands
Making Aegon and the dagger connected to "the long night" was a horrible decision
I agree but I Think that was more for the fans of the show who are just that and dont read the books etc. and gave them a way to “connect” GoT to this.
Either way I can’t wait for season 2
This highlights one of the biggest issues I have with HoD, I already know who dies, who lives, who kills who, which dragons will die and when and to who. I mean it is still entertaining but what is really the point
Daenerys couldn't controll her dragons too, she put two of them in chains and Drogon take her from the fighting peats and didn't bring her back
the dragons were starting to kill children and random people to feed, so the people of Meereen demanded she chain them.
@@SantomPh I just said she couldn't control them, I didn't criticize her for chaining them
Ngl 8 wish they would show all 21 dragons but unfortunately dragons like Shrykos, Morghul, Grey Ghost and Morning may never be shown due to the fact that they don’t play a major role
What did the white walkers do with the babies once they turned? They never went into detail about it on game of thrones. Did they grow up to be adult walkers? Did they eat them? What were their purposes? Seems a strategic error to keep babies around that can’t fend for themselves. I need answers!
Harrenhal is cursed and Daemon is losing it 😂
Drogon is what Dany is on the inside.