Jesse vs. Guest with Preacher Wife: Debate! (Highlight)
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In this episode highlight of TheFallenState TV, host Jesse Lee Peterson interviews Dr. Adonjiah Ogbonnaya ("Dr. O"), CEO and founder of AACTEV8 International.
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"Minister" is an appropriated term today. My mom spent 15 bucks on a website and got her certificate. I told her I don't accept it.
ahhahahaha
Lmao!
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Oh no!!!!
I'm a minister, but I had to be interviewed and ordained with the laying of hands by the prelate.
@@withlovestephaniedenise7024 what in the oganization of magical negroes are you talking about?
That look he gave the guy at 2:02 when he told that lie lol
God told Mary to preach John 20.17
1 Timothy3: 1-5 and 1 Timothy 2: 11-15. A bishop or pastor is a man married to 1 woman. God did not call woman to teach or have authority over man but to learn in silence. Different roles in the church.
Yes
So simple; man here is suppressing truth.
Scripture says Women are not to teach Men.
They can teach women but not men. Like it or not.. these are GODS COMMANDS not Man’s.
Churches are filled with single mothers. Most men aren't going no matter whos preaching
atleast the guest wasnt offended and the convo seemed very light between these two. they must know each other
I love the “What chu talking about Willis” look Jesse give his guest in response to women leading. Classic Jesse!
What's the over/under that his wife is whyte?
Pray for Jesse
What do you mean by "you people" ??
Pray for Jesse because he is so stupid. Shame on any person who thinks he’s smart. He’s an embarrassment. This guy is really making him look stupid
If God says, "Women over children," then how can she serve the evil one if that is her role from God?
Thats only if they havent returned to the father and forgivin their mothers. If they have then that order is true and satan is no longer their daddy. Amazin huh ?
Minister is a servant! A woman is the first teacher to the children unto the instructions of the father!
*But I suffer 👉🏿not a woman to teach👈🏿, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. -2 Timothy 2:12* 🌹📖
*What about Junia in the NT? Junia was the wife of Adronicus of Pannonia, a Bishop. She was a writer, or a recorder of her husband’s sermons and ASSISTED Adronicus in taking down temples of the Occult during the time of Paul.*
*Shalawam* 💯✊🏿
So assisted. Notice you didn't say she taught or led.
Flee hebrew roots movement!!! Btw you re adding 613 laws on yourself or others.
God told Mary to preach to his brothers John 20.17
Corinthians 14, 34. Let your women keep silent in the Churches, for they are not permitted to speak;but they are to be submissive,as the law also says. 35. If they want to learn something, let them ask their husbands at home;for it is shameful for women to speak in Church.
bingo!
God told Mary to preach to his brothers John 20.17
@@bethvirginiaphillips4583God told Mary to preach John 20.17
I actually agree with Jesse in context, women naturally hate authority when it overthrows her decisions.
It's true woman naturally fall into a caregiver role its harsh but true and I wish it was more ok for them to feel like that , there's nothing wrong with taking care of people, if people don't fight their natural tendencies it's easier to accept yourself and find meaning but remember to derive meaning from yourself you don't need to have faith it's OK to be you
Should say most woman there's always outliers
You know his wife wears the pants lol 😆
BOOK OF TIMOTHY STATES THAT A WOMAN SHOULDN'T TEACH...... NOT UP FOR DISCUSSION
Ok so why do you think Paul wrote that letter to Timothy? I’m waiting I know the answer already, cause everybody twist this scripture take it out of context etc. so give me the reason why, and what place this took place. Waiting?
@@fallonbutler5111God told Mary to preach John 20.17
Why are man so afraid being Alpha. I love myself a real Alpha male ❤
First, a pastor or elder MUST be a man (read 1 Tim 3:1-7; Titus 1).
Amen! The Devil Is Deceiving The Whole World! Only GOD'S ELECT Can See The TRUTH!
Amazin
I'M STARTING TO BELIEVE WHAT U SAY ABOUT WOMEN IS TRUE THEY CAN NEVER ADMIT THAT THEY'RE WRONG N WANT TO B IN CHARGE N U LET THEM N EVERYTHING GOES TO HELL SO MANY OF MY RELATIONSHIPS ALWAYS TURNED TO SHXT BEEN ALONE FOR YEARS NOW!!!!!!!
Post modern disaster. Women's lib was of Satan.
The way I ran to the comments 😆😆😆
The minister doesn’t have to like or understand Gods commands but they are Gods commands.
Women are from Men. Of Man. Wo-Man. Women can teach women and children but not Men. If you get up there in defiance of Gods design your not a good leader.
I mean all religion is bullshit but ya you should practice what you preach at least
@@clay7182 You got your opinion from decades of nihilistic indoctrination. It's easy to say that it's BS if you've never even attempted to understand any of the doctrines.
This is the closest this guest will ever get to a superior being
Absolutely not true
God told Mary to preach. When they didn’t believe her words, God told them off
1 Dividing the races with lies,
2 Uniting the races with truth,
3 Dividing the races with truth..
You need to insert creating race ideology to devide people.
Bible says : men suppress truth". They truthfully do.
Race not in Bible. Groupings are 3 of them. This is about believing or non believing. Nothing to do w racism. Coined by commies.
so jessie says intellect of from devil. then this guy tries to use intellect to explain how he is wrong. amazin! i do agree all truth and wisdom is of the lord.
*I agree with Jesse about some things, but that's it.*
The woman cannot be a preacher over the men in the Church, she can be a teacher over the children and the other women in the church, with a man monitoring that
Jesse is right. Deborah was not a preacher. Junia was a KINGSMAN!
Not sure about k8ngsman? No such role.
@@jackiepowell7513Junia was Paul's Kingsman. Please read the scripture carefully. A kingsman is a fellow country man. A Kingswoman is a fellow country woman. That was my point. Many people say Junia was a woman apostle.
Julia was a woman
@@ShmaAdonaiEhadAre you the bride of Christ?
I love how this guy's example of how the intellect is not of the devil relies on studying translated etymologies. Lol.
Entymologies isn't it?
Thumbs Up for Jesse!
He's right. Bible clearly says ''No women Preachers/Teachers, and even keep silence and learn''.
And that's why Christianity is complete bullsh*+...
Jesse do need stay biblical and not make his narrative don’t just pick out what you want
You should research more. It says that but it’s not talking about all women.
That's Paul not God talking
@@my_keygaucho2257 you don’t make since, the majority of scripture is given by a man .
God told Mary to preach to his brothers John 20.17
13:00 wow, the whole point of the teachings is about the arrogance of the intellect. This guy is stunning
This is a good conversation
Jesse's guess sense of humor is great...it "suggests" by his snickering that "This nigga Jesse is out his mind."
Jesse you're 100% correct ....Father is the leader of the house hold....These women that divorce their husband just so they can be a child again and leave their children with her parents so she can party, terrible.
Everyone is called Deborah🤣
This World is "Out Of Order" It Is Written! KJV - Isaiah 3 : 12
“As for MY PEOPLE, CHILDREN are their OPPRESSORS, and WOMEN RULE OVER THEM. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and DESTROY the WAY of thy paths.”
Women are not to preach, but to listen in silence.
God told Mary to preach in John 20
Twisted Scripture
My mother is still trying to get me back under her thumb and im 32.
I have phone calls 2 a week max
I love in ankther province
She still tries to tell me what to do "On The Phone"
What the ohhhh
This guy was really cool
Jesse right.
@@jackiepowell7513Jesus told mary to preach John 20
God said not to eat the fruit to knowledge of all… devil said to eat it.. how is that not of the devil😂
Did Jesse ever read the book of Esther?
I read it a woman can share the word of God but not hold the title a pastor that title belong to the man who is the head.
@@rubenberrios6777God told mary to preach John 20
I love you Jesse. And the reason why I do, is because you are the realest human beings, besides my family, and mother that is the realest. Starting my channel soon, and am going to make sure I shout you you out, and you can shout me out. Blessings and for real soul talk back to you. -dc
It is a shame for women to speak in the Churches. -Apostle Paul
lol they also stoned women in the Bible as well
@@randomthoughtreviews3101 i say we stone danielle.. for heresy.
@@randomthoughtreviews3101 they did a lot in the bible, but christians follow jesus to honor the father, not everything that happened in the book. When the pharisees were about to stone a woman jesus said the one without sin shall throw the first stone. After they went away jesus told the woman to not sin anymore. You should read it, if you want to have an opinion on it.
@@svengangert2683 I don’t like fiction so I’ll still pass
@@randomthoughtreviews3101 If you think the teachings of christ are fictional then stay in the nihilistic world of satan. Your choice.
Clearly, Jesse hates women. Enough said.
he trying to keep face with someone in the audience , probably his wife lol
Who’s Jr?😂 who’s jr??😂😂
Junia is a woman apostle highly esteemed by Paul
We are jezebells
Doest his 'pastor wife" pay income tax and is she part of the 501C3 tax exempt?
Jesse looks like PlayStation 1 graphics lol
Lmao!!!
😂😂😂😂😂
1 Corinthians 11:1-34 ESV.helpful votes Helpful Not Helpful
Be imitators of me, as I am of Christ. Now I commend you because you remember me in everything and maintain the traditions even as I delivered them to you. But I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a wife is her husband, and the head of Christ is God. Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head, but every wife who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head, since it is the same as if her head were shaven. Yahweh have an arrangement and all who follow and respect this arrangement is blessed to preach or prophesy.
Your perspective on women is crazy town. Too bad, cuz your other perspectives are really good.
6:15 uum hmmm hmmm hmmm... not listening at all, just waiting to project his ideology so he change someone else's opinion not realizing he's not even willing to challenge his own convictions even though they're proven to be false judgment.
Philips daughters . And we are all equal galatians 3:26-29.
Man is and will always be head of the house. To many people go off what man has taught and not the whole Bible. Even write this comment doesn't go or could it deep enough in the scriptures to explain why he is mostly wrong
I am a woman and I totally agree with Jesse!!!!
You should probably change your name and profile "Cole" before trying to deceive people into thinking your a woman. Grow some braincells.
I love u. Any more of you out there????
Me too
Your insane
Yea some things women do need to work on
But to say women aren't leaders
In comparison with men is crazy lol
Just cause I was born a certain sex doesnt give me special abilities to lead in every single instance lol
Devil works through Eve, and women.
What genesis 2:24 said? Jesse Lee Peterson is not a real bible student. His sole purpose is to condemn people who are ignorant of the scriptures themselves.
What's Genesis 3:16 say?
As you are. Gen 2: 24 has nothing to do w this subject. Whose dense ? You.
Proves thesis of jesse
Marriage and cleaving ( knitting together) have no bearing on roles in the Church? No wonder you r lost in word salad. " learn from a pastor like rev gene kim or voddie bauchum"!
A pastor and a preacher (evangelist) aren't the same ministry.Anyone can be an evangelist- men, women and children. Neither is a judge the same ministry as a pastor. The ministry of judges is no longer available in the Church, the Body of Christ. Women should not be pastors with leadership over men, and Scripture has revealed this clearly in the Book of Timothy, with reasons going back to the Book of Genesis. People don't accept this either due to ignorance of Scripture or rebellion against Yahweh.
This host seems to hate women blaming them for all and giving men completely off the hook. He needs to encounter love
Eve was the origin of sin. The Bible also lays out the spiritual order of things. Jesse follows the Bible. It has nothing to do with hatred.
@@eduardopena5893God never said she was the devil because the devil approached her first.
@@tybiasbutler343 Eve was the origin of sin for humans. She committed the sin and got Adam to follow.
Has nothing to do w roles set by God. Love is God but He is just. Also has tough love.
Jesse
Sorry Jesse, but my mother was the most loving and humble person that I’ve ever known, she obeyed my father without ever questioning him, even when she knew he was wrong, she still never backtalked him.
Then there was order lmao that's how it's suppose to be and that's what Jesse is saying. You're just reacting to this because you're living in your head , just like momma. 😂
Your mother had a good father .
He s talking about the bulk. He s right. Bell curve.
Show me in the bible where it says wifes are to obey there husband..
Jessie is cutthroat but honest, understands scripture and calls out the liars frauds charlatans.
He doesnt understand sciptures well, he takes many things out of context and is misquoting a lot, he believes sinless perfection and that Jesus is not God for example, im not hating but this is fact.
@@jessepeeletersonamazin7952 Jesse would call you a Bible-Thumper
@@deed8978 amazin
Girl shut uuup, I can tell you don't have any knowledge of the scripture.🤦🏿♂️ I can respect his honesty though.
Women do have that spirit the thing I believe ones can't get past is good or bad and the image painted of the devil by people and not the bible
That's not necessarily true , read about saint Monica..and many other ssint women
God couldent make eve listen , what chance do we have
Is true. Did Jesus obeyed mumma? No. He followed the Father God Almighty.
If women have a spirit of the devil, cast it out.
Thank you Dr O for clearing this up and speaking Truth
That's all right, Jesse!!
Junia is noted among the Apostales, to be noted is the same as being known. Benjamin Franklin is noted among the Presidents but he was not a President. No where in scripture does it say Junia was an Apostale and there is no event of her calling, Paul and Matthias were the only exception because Matthias replaced Judas at the Hoy Spirit's direction and Paul was called by Jesus after his resurrection. She was not with Jesus during his earthly ministry nor saw him resurrected which are requirements of and Apostale and agian Paul and Matthias were the only exceptions with a common denominator, they were men.
this guy is very childish, giggling like a teen age girl
He has a Jew hat thing on.
I agree with women not being able to teach, but in regards to women having the Spirit of Satan you are way off.
If you say so, satan.
@@svengangert2683 That's the best you can do?
@@williamherring2349 What did you expect? Should I punch you through the screen or something? XD But seriously tho, look at what the world has become since women got into politics and the work place. You're in denial brother. Women need men to lead, cuse they're always tempted by satan.
Wow his belief system is jacked up. Has a very negative mindset concerning women. Conditioned to believe based on Bible another actually Gods Spirit
Deba 😂
I wonder if jessy ever had ah woman
I love watching two people argue about the rules of their imaginary friends.
This is about " women are not to preach". Women in a support role r taken out of context.
"You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free."
When a well packaged web of lies has been sold gradually through time to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.
It’s easier to fool people than it is to convince them that they have been fooled.
No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth.
This truth will free you to seek for the Living God in the Spirit and to truly KNOW GOD instead of just knowing ABOUT HIM.
The GOSPEL is NOT written with ink, nor on tablets of stone, but on our hearts by the Spirit of the Living God.
The gentiles who have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, then they are a law unto themselves.
Under the New Covenant we are to be led by the Holy Spirit, not the bible.
I was searching for truth when Jesus told me, "The bible is an idol" which completely changed my direction. After that I only sought for Him in the Spirit and He has taught me many things on life's journey.
The most important of which is that He died so we could be regenerated by the Holy Spirit into sons and daughters of God.
The gospel is simple, repent from living after the flesh, ask Jesus to fill you with the Holy Spirit and then be led and controlled by Him through the Spirit.
The bible is only history and has absolutely no authority from God to control us, the outward law was under the old covenant. Jesus died to redeem us from the curse of the written law because we were unable to keep it.
Have a great journey through life with the Living Christ guiding you.
When Jesus words are written down and Satan is using them, then the bible becomes the word of Satan.
Constantine (1st) beast compiled 50 bibles, legalized Christianity and set up the false prophet (pope).
King James (2nd) beast, born 6/1566, 6th of Scotland, authorized a bible in 1611 that now has 66 books to control people with, an image of God's word they make to speak (the bible says).
By having faith in the bible which has been made into an idol, they break the new covenant of having faith in the Living Christ through the Holy Spirit, who is the true word of God.
THE BIBLE IS THE MARK OF THE BEAST
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This guy is ultra Beta all the giggling and laughing 🙄
9:45 Jesse too stick to his point... lol a good silent prayer to reset the mind...
He black!!
Wow, hard to believe this “male superiority” way of thinking is still being taught and defended as if that is the heart of God. It would have been nice if the guest could have responded and dialogued with the host without the host cutting him off or speaking over him.
The guest is speaking truth and I pray the host and anyone else that cannot hear/understand it receives revelation about it. Take a step back, lay down your ego (and biases), and read scripture with Holy Spirit so you can obtain truth and understand all of what God wants you to get from it. God still speaks today… you might want to find out what He’s saying.
The letter by itself kills because you will interpret it through your own lens and biases. Let Holy Spirit tell you what scripture really means from the heart and mind of God.
This was almost a waste of the guest’s time except for the fact that there were seeds of truth planted.
Praying for revelation, deliverance from ignorance and error, truth, love, and unity between us all.
Yeah, people are definitely in denial that the stronger sex should lead, while the weaker one should be protected and watch out for the kids, right? If a woman would be attacked and every man comes to the rescue, no one would question it, because it is completely natural without even thinking about it, however saying out loud that for the exact same reasons men should be the head is somehow a bad thing. From the very beginning of genesis god is clear about adam and eve and their roles, so stop pretending to be a christian. Jesus wasn't a progressive hippie telling women they can do whatever men can do, because it isn't true.
That sounds great, though God created everything with a natural order, and it is becoming increasingly rare that people adhere to it.
IMO, the Biblical way is the best way though that doesn't mean one can pick and choose which parts to accept and which to reject.
The battle is spiritual and not of flesh and blood. The world wants to convince you it's the opposite.
The fruits (outcomes) of desicions are a way to judge their effects.
We now live in a world where some people don't even know what a man or a woman is.
Scripture SAYS not MEANS. Exegetical rule. Only Daniel Ezekial Revelation tie in w symbols.
GOD speaks via the Book. Heb 1. Not visions, dreams nor Interpretation
GOD IS THE SAME YESTERDAY TODAY AND TOMORROW That blows your outdated statement out of the water.
It doesn't matter who's preaching. More women in church than men.. no matter who's preaching. Lol 😂
WTF am I listening too. One guy is quoting the new testament smh. Is he a black jew or a Christian im confused and this other guy is just talking nonsense. He knows nothing of God.
Once again Jesse, you are preaching the loving truth of god. Women are beneath us men, and should stay in their place. Why, just the other day I had to slap my wife for her misbehavior. I sure put her back in her place as a follower. How dare she think she could be anything more than that? (Sarcasm, probably too dumb to understand that)
..Jesus preferred Mary Magdalen ...so much so as to provoke the other Apostles to ask. ”why are You always kissing her .?” Jesus replied. ...”better to ask, why am I not kissing you ? “.
....wait what scripture that
Jews daddy, is mommy.🤣
This man knows the Bible and putting poor Jesse to shame
The guy is clearly wrong? His wife a preacher? That's against God s precept/ command. First* Timothy spells our roles in the Book.
* may be 2nd Timothy.
Quite the opposite. Nice try in suppressing truth.
@@jackiepowell7513 😂 Take charge of your Mental Health
That Peterson is a very very ignorant man !!!
Jesse is sitting there, making up stuff as he goes. Almost nothing that he's says is biblical.
Yup.. lol 😂. All entertainment
That’s what is disturbing it’s not hard to stay biblical
Beta males
Everything Jesse saying, is infact BIBLICAL. EVERYTHING!
You d have to counter church roles set up by God. You re wrong. To post saying Hesse wrong?
Jessie I love you man but you have to forgive your mother. Honor thy father AND mother is the command from GOD. I pray you let that hate for females go, we’re not all from the evil one. GOD bless everyone in the mighty name of JESUS Christ!!!
He doesn't hate women. The devil got to man through the woman. The woman is more susceptible. That's only because she was made to follow, not lead. Adam was strong in resisting the devil, but he was weak in guiding Eve, so he succumbed to the devil through her. That's a very clear and demonstrable formulaic problem that happens every day all around the world. Only your own irritation will deny it, and diagnose the source of the irritant as another person's "hate." Jesse does not hate women at all. He sees that they're susceptible and need to be lead away from evil. Women hate admitting that about themselves, but it's also undeniable, because when they're not being lead by a man they're being lead by their conclusions that come from their emotional reactions to outside events. You're always being lead. Better your husband than the devil. But up to you.
I same the same sentiments. He's too harsh on women.
His supposed hate of females might be your own hate of men that you project. There is no preaching about equality in christianity cause people aren't equal, especially men and women aren't. God defined the roles in the very first pages of the book of genesis. You want a man that's able to protect you as a woman? Then accept him as your leader! I know it's hard to understand when satan is your daddy, but I pray for you.
It's honor your parents. Has zero to do w with in post modern era usurping the role of men. CONGRESS is a mess as is DA s and soros placed radical feminazis!!
Directly after the fall Woman were easily deceived, deceivers and base decisions on emotions. Men became persecutors. Galatians 3:28 has been interpreted as teaching that Paul is calling “only” for spiritual equality in Christ Jesus. “Neither male or female.
Quit proof texting!!! That's to members of family if God/ church. Not church roles!!! Hermeneutics vital. Seek a good pastor.teacher!!! Voddie Bauchum. Is good.
Peterson is a sick and twisted.
God loves everyone and has forgiven all, kingdom of heaven is for anyone who takes the path.
God loves everyone but not all are forgiven. We must seek God, repent, and allow for transformation within our souls.
We are saved by Gods Grace thru Jesus sacrifice to usher in the Holy Spirit. The focus is SIN. Not love
@@Mrs.CGraves Is there someone you love but you don't forgive??
@@teddycheong no. I forgive. And I sin, I’m a sinner although I’m saved. I know this. But daily I do my best to follow the instructions to life God gave me.
@@Mrs.CGraves "love even your enemy" is a measure of how much you agree with Christ, if you don't then you should be 100% honest about it so that you can figure out what's stopping you from loving your enemy like Christ said. Denial is not going to work.
@@coolhandlukas1984 so you agree with her about God loves everyone. Then all of us are on the same page on that one. Nice to know.
Jessie is a whole baby daddy trying to give relationship advice to married people
What did he say that's untrue?
He too made mistakes in his fallen state
@@praxite33 judging by his barbaric ideology he's still in a fallen state if anyone wants to do something that's not illegal or demeaning and have a passion for it let them
@@comencme1 what did he say that is untrue?
@@comencme1 your not answering the question
@@markcurry3083 it's you're and it does state that in the bible but it also says eating shrimp is an abomination and planting 2 different seeds in the same line is an abomination only God can judge that's my point telling a man his wife is out of pocket shouldn't be done
Intellect is of the devil :D Jesse went crazy lol. He knew it was bad so he disabled the dislikes lmfao
RUclips hid the dislikes a while ago. It’s like that in every channel. Nobody can actually disable the like button.
How on Earth did you just perceive that connection? Are you a wizard?!
RUclips did that not Jesse get, get your facts right.
@@jessepeeletersonamazin7952 jesus ... I have the chrome extension.
@@MelbourneMaster amazin
If you take after JLP you will be much, much better off in life and spirit.
Jesse is the literal embodiment of Samuel L Jackson’s character in Django
You re referencing the slave? I m thinking. Not factual or true. Jesse speaking truth. Truth hurts.
I would ask Jesse is the state of the world in decay at the moment, he should say yes, than ask who lead the world the past since the beginning of time women or men? It's a gotcha question but he'll probably blame everything on Eve lol.
@2:01 SAVAGE MOMENTS!