Dr. Adonijah Ogbonnaya ("Dr. O") Joins Jesse! (
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On this week's episode of TheFallenState TV, host Jesse Lee Peterson is joined by Dr. Adonijah Ogbonnaya, CEO, apostle, and founder of AACTEV8 International (aka "Dr. O"). Dr. O was born in Africa as a black Jew, and then became a Christian in addition to his Jewish heritage. Tune in as Jesse and Dr. O dissect what it means to be an African Jewish Christian, and debate everything from Adam and Eve, to women preaching, the state of black Americans today, America's current leadership, and of course, whether rac*sm exists. You don't want to miss it!
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Jesse!!! I emailed you show to suggest having Dr O on the Fallen State. Cant wait for this interview, I really hope you enjoyed it!!!
@@slimschadey7779 Hi David! This is the producer--I received the email. Thanks so much for the guest suggestion!
@@thefallenstateproducer3944 the fallen state producer is a pretty white chick, I believe. 🎶🌌🎄🖖🏻Merry Christmas Host Nation 🖖🏻🎄🌌🎶 Thanks for helping Jesse andnthenrest of us slow folk, we blaht🍉 😁
The old testament is very clear, if you are loyal to God you have eternal life.
He a Nigerianegro🤣🤣😂
Please bring him back..very intelligent Man
Dr. O has such a great sense of humor and calm spirit. He is wise and handled Jesse’s antics with grace
I just wonder why he abandoned his people and came to the white mans land who treats him so poorly and begged the white man to take him in, educate him, and give him and his family the white mans prosperity and privileges, all to get away from his land and his people. He is either a liar, hypocrite, or is detached from reality.
That's the truth
Antics?
@@emc_tv trolling
@@chrisjoseph6491 he wasn't trolling
Doctor O is truly amazing, may God continue to bless him.
Yes he is a very knowledgeable man. The entire debate was beneficial to all , especially non believers, I God working in certain ways..I am like more interviews please
Really great show, it becomes a superb conversation when the guest is above getting upset and angry. Although those conversations are also very fun.
That's the difference between black folks born and raised in america, and ones born and raised in Africa.
@@sarahdrum8274 iv been to Africa iv spoke to africans, ate dinner with them, been with them inside their homes. Yes they are different than black americans
Totally agree 💯
@@sarahdrum8274 well said... easy to understand your point from your first comment let alone the second....👏👏👏
Jesse sure do try to get them upset, he try very hard, I notice that he'll ask the same question over and over again trying to piss a victim off, they're not guess they're victims
BEST GUEST JESSE HAD THE KNOWLEDGE OF THIS MAN IS MUCH NEEDED ABOUT THE TRUTH OF THIS WORLD
Could you imagine if these guys were your in-laws and every thanksgiving you got this gem of conversation. God bless!
My thoughts exactly 💯
Seriously! I would love that too!
Garbage 😢😂
No I can’t imagine
😂
I am a Jewish believer and I am a woman. I lived in sin all my life until I was saved 11 years ago. I KNOW I’m saved. My entire life changed in that moment. Praise God and the Lord Jesus Christ. Amen
If you say you feel you are saved but you said praise God and the Lord Jesus Christ? Revelation has not yet come to you then? You should’ve said praise God the Lord Jesus Christ the Savior. Jesus Christ is God himself the Lord and Savior. I hope you don’t get upset at me for telling you this. Look up Pastor Gino Jennings, he’ll explain the one God to you and his preteens.
@@isaiasacuna8695 go back to being studios. That’s a fallacy.
Show me or anyone with scripture where it says Jesus is God.
@@gtparker2317 I’m not going to go back-and-forth on this, but I will recommend you to watch Pastor Gino Jennings on RUclips. I guarantee he will explain it way better than I could here. I hope you do really want to know the truth about Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior God Almighty himself? So do yourself a favor and watch Pastor Gino Jennings teachings on this question of yours. Thanks and may you find revelation on Who is Jesus Christ. God bless you.
@@isaiasacuna8695 I’m aware of Pastor Jennings.
He’s a reputable man of God.
I respect your opinion as well. Gods love is the ultimate source!
@@gtparker2317 Thanks for your peaceful response. So if you have heard pastor Gino Jennings Clear and understandable teachings on Jesus Christ being God Almighty himself, Then I Respect your opinion and Decision to not except The clear revelation that Jesus Christ is king Lord God Almighty savior and creator of the world himself. Jesus said, I come and knock on the door whosoever opens the door he shall enter and show him or her many things he or she doesn’t know. Jesus Christ doesn’t force himself on nobody, I Sure won’t try to force him On you either. God bless you and I wish you well in your path.
It's really Important to see that Dr. O clarified what he meant by Judaism. He said "Not Judaism in it's Practiced Modern But the Judaism explicated in the Context of the Old testament Hebrew scriptures." It's imperative that we know the difference between Following Torah/Tanakh and Following Talmudic interpretation of Torah/Tanakh. They are not the same.
I doubt Dr O follows the Talmud but I don't know
@@Whosoever. yea that's precisely the reason I made this comment. it's to distinguish the difference between Ancient and Modern Judaism. We need to understand that even Christianity Predates Modern Judaism. And more importantly, we must know that Judaism and Christianity in their True Forms are the same.
YeahNO, fool. You could do the same with any word. The true understanding of the misunderstood cow is it is Christianity. No, it is not. Judaism does not hold the New Testament is true. Judaism does not hold that Jesus was and is the Messiah.
@@leehensley5019 the Apostles who were JEWS disagree with you.
@@Whosoever. YeahNO, fool. What the next stupid human trick, mixing up ethnicity with religion? Were Jews is past tense, so try to put it in the past, not the present, fool.
I can’t help but love Dr. O. He was showing love, humility, and humor, throughout the interview.
Yes he is very likable.
I agree he was more open than hardly anyone. But Jesse is a genius, fearless, talking truth.
Unfortunately everytime he tried to make a point jesse talked over him and said we gotta move on cuz of time!
@@j2da please, out of a 70 minute interview it happened like 3 times by accident. There’s not a shred of ill-will or deliberate bulldozing here
Typical black religious leader who gives his mostly female parishioners a pass.
Great show! This guy's laugh cracks me up. He has great energy.
He had a very stoic spirit
Not for me, Britt. The more I listen to him, all I'm hearing is, 'I,I,I'. And I'm hearing him talk about God in a personal way. I pray for his mind to be opened, for the god of this world is blinding him from knowing the Truth..John 14:6. Bless you🙂
JLP: Black people can't think for themselves
Also JLP: You shouldn't think for yourself
The best interview on this channel. Dr O is a great soul.
It is one of the most greatest and interesting show by Jesse so far. The civility between these two 👍👌
Respect for both of them, Dr O did not take it personal like others do, agree to disagree, yet they have a civilised conversation 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
DR. Adonijah Ogbonnaya is the best lately. Good with the scriptures.
Best guest so far on the fallen state, respect funny and really smart guy.
Mr Lee thank you very much for bringing in 2 big Nigerians names from America to your show.to my opinion they both killed it,especially this man,as a nigerian i have never head of him or know about him but your show make me to know him,everything he has said they are all truth, his Igbo man from the easthern part of Nigeria.
Please who was the other Nigerian guest that you speak of?
This was pleasant to watch, usually his guest get so radical they get mad or walk off. This one is like watching two old friends just talking.
Jesse is also radical. Its just were used to him lol
This was enjoyable.
No such thing as Friends.
@@johnphillips781 could you please define an “uncle Ruckus” for me? I never heard that terminology before.
@@johnphillips781 gotcha
Yet another great conversation. AMAZIN'!!
Best comment! Well said💥✨🌟🎉💫⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Dr O walks with the Lord and operates in some real deal authority on so many other levels!! It is evident every time he speaks but also in his energy and composure. When you walk in love, spirit, and truth, you can stay as cool as a cucumber in every conversation and situation. Love it!!
What 'Lord'? The one he thought he saw in a vision? Back to the Bible: even satan himself appears as an angel of light, as do his servants/demons
@@lonelybro77 Thanks for the scripture but I’m referring to YHVH, the I Am that I Am, the One who the Living Word was with in the beginning, and who is the Word, whose Spirit helps us to walk in love, spirit, and truth… and can keep us from judging in error, if we allow.
We all have our own walk, experiences, and revelation. That’s enough to keep us busy working on ourselves to ensure we’re getting rid of all kinds of beams in our own eyes😂 The good thing is love, spirit, and truth is something in which we can all walk… and it keeps us unified even when we don’t quite understand someone else’s walk, experiences, or revelation☺️
That's a psychopath
He's a liar
This Dr O is very impressive!!!
Doctor O is soooo wonderful.. the way he giggles and is so kind-hearted. They both show so much respect. Wonderful interview! Thank you. 😍
I like Dr. O, he made some interesting points that were new to me.
Just found a dvd of him when he came to my church in Arkansas in 2014.....love his mind...
Dr. O has the genuine African laugh.
The maturity of Dr.O and Jesse’s lack of it is so evident in this video. I love how Dr.O was always trying to bring Jesse into truth not just tell him but help him see it… unfortunately Jesse’s lack of maturity didn’t allow him to receive. Respect to both men for what they do… this was great to watch
You're smoking crack. Dr. O is delusional.
@@JustinDAMusic hahahahahahahahahahahaha
Thx bro❤for saying that. Jessies Doktrin and knowege is supichous he is only Packung on the Whoman. Like only Eve was trowing out of Eden. 😂 you right this time jessie . Lee Peterson acted cind realy dummmmm😅
Your Jewish, your intelligent and a believer Dr O. fearing God is already being smart and the beginning of Wisdom
"Salvation is a coming to knowledge."
That has to be the most prolific and profound thing any of Jesse's guests have ever said.
Right, and profoundly stupid!
kinda meaningless but sounds cool tho 😂 ❤
The man has a point there. Why go to a God ordain pastor and let his words go out the other ear without thinking. The most common way God reaches to people is with men
god bless this guy. Chill dude
This was a great conversation. Thank you Jessie and Adonijah Ogbonnaya
I just noticed that I've had a grin on my face for the last hour straight. Great interview!!!
Jessie reminds me of the kings jesture, he's so entertaining 😆
@@icu4life240 If you had told me that a little black guy with a speech impediment, standing for things that I hated throughout my life (not anymore, though), would have provoked a change in me this profound and for the good, I would have called you a liar. Everything this guy says is actually coming to pass. ❤👍 AHHHHMAZZZZIN!!!👍❤
@@patientlywatching7775 Good luck to you and your cult following.
If the black community is still angry about the past, therefore they continue to fail, then tell me why the jewish community regarding the holocaust are forgiving and successful?
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I am 72 years old. I guess I can say I was born Hebrew also. I learned a prayer and the Shama as a child. My father was Catholic, so we went to Catholic school. I could write a book about my experience in that school as a Hebrew child.
When people ask me what religion I am I say I am the same religion as Yehoshuah or Jesus. I also had a few visitations of a strong person who was a shining light. I could not see the person at all.
I have been a genealogist since the 70s. When the digital age came I was able to map my DNA from East Africa to the Levant in high North Africa back to North Africa where there was a divide. My DNA is all along the East and West coast of Africa. I also discovered that I am Lemba on my paternal side. It looks like there was an Inquisition in the Kingdom of Kongo where crypto-hebrews were sold unto slavery by the Portuguese.
I am not sure about Nigeria because it appears that my Nigerian ancestry is pretty recent. On my mother's side I am Mandinka, Mende, Temne, and Fulan. This all shows that my family wandered a lot.
I wonder how are the Hebrew people treated in Nigeria? And do the Hebrews in Nigeria display the Indian Shatkona, this disturbs me? We were always taught to know the Lord's Prayer and the Apostles Creed because this was the test to prove we were Christians or at least friends of Christians.
To Dr. O, Have a good Passover,
Qelilah Solomon
Fascinating! You have such a sound and ciltured mind, as if your focus was refined by time in your 72 years of life.
Ordinary people have their focus fragment and scatter under the erosion of eros and other things that devour intent or "purpose."
Congratulations on knowing your genetic composition and retaining cognitive coherence. May your spirit remain firmly set within the fleshing emanation of being ensouled ass a whole individual 🖖🏼
In Nigeria, the people in Igboland call themselves Hebrews.
WRITE YOUR BOOK!
I am part Fulani as well. Greetings sister!
@@linyenchin6773 To da, Thank you 😊
At the end He was laughing so hard at Jesse's stupidity.
You missed the boat.
I love the guy from africa's laugh
I really enjoyed this , I could not stop laughing. Jesse is a comedian. I think he should interview more scholars.
He make sense though cuts through like double edge sword
@@antonyschwarz8749 Jesse is speaking from the words of the book. From the standard.
Very funny, his approach of questions is second to non. To use it comes across as jokes, but he ⚫. Lol and American, and truly only see it as the good grass on this side of Earth 🌎. Me too. Lol
Well this was one of the better dialogues. Dr. O is a leaned man and gave excellent rebuttal to Jesse.
Good show, only thing that gets me is when a guest makes a good point Jesse switches the subject, other than that great conversation
This was enjoyable to watch!
Ur profile picture is also very interesting to watch sister 🤗
@@reggiekaz4147 😆 thanks!
@@chantestephens what u think I'm funny?!! 🤗😁
@@reggiekaz4147 she's above average in looks, I.Q, character and class. She know's the internet is full of flagrant flavors looking to savor her favour. Alas; our class is too divergent, her determined strides will go far beyond our reach as she encapsulates profound substance of God's Grace.
@@reggiekaz4147 no, just kind. I appreciate the compliment.
Jesse always talks so bad about women, but he reminds me of one by not letting people finish what they're saying... trying to have a conversation with him is like trying to have a conversation with most women
Dr Ogbonnaya is hitting the nail right on the head and Jesse Lee is acting like a real joker.
Jesse looked a little bit disappointed when he was told that Jesus was not born in Europe but in ancient North-East Africa 😂
Jesus wasn’t born there either. He wasn’t flesh and blood. That’s why there is no description of Jesus.
Dr O is good!
As much as I like the Fallen State, this guest made better points than Jesse in this one.
This conversation was AMAZIN
This gentleman was a lot of fun!
She is intellectual = no gentleman but gentlema'am.
@@linyenchin6773 Come on, Lin. I'm just being nice 😂
@@bibby42 sorry, I blaht = no sense of mercy = "autistic" aka honest or direct.
@@linyenchin6773 lin Yen Chin you blocked me on my other channel.
@@gregdero2813 neat.
Always entertaining and enlightening.
What an Amazin conversation!
Jesus did not come from north east frica.
@@marrio882 Where did Jesus come from then?
Jesse Cracks me up....does he believe that scripture is the word of GOD or not?? He jumps in and out of scriptures , denounces some, and takes some out of context just to fit his own theories. Absolutely entertaining.
But he doesn’t understand them
The Bible is the word FROM God.
The word OF God is written upon your heart ❤
💯💯💯 only those who think clearly will see what you wrote. Jesse fits the scriptures to his own doctrines. But ignores the actual doctrines intended by the writers of the gospels.
@@mariagabrielle6383 The word of God is Spirit.
The bible is paper and ink.
The word of God is the living word.
A book is a dead object.
The world of God cannot be changed.
Bibles have changed a lot. Even some manuscripts have 40+ different variants.
The bible are called the scriptures, not the word of God
I see a lot of love flowing through this guess
Please, dont be deceived
If you have a good heart and love all people. Then you my friend have FAITH. God bless you all.
@@coolhandlukas1984 if you think Jesse has been telling people to “love all” like believe & obsess over all, you either haven’t been listening for long or haven’t been listening
Amen brother, 💯
@@coolhandlukas1984 Do you believe in the bible, or do you believe in God?
Christian's are beta's
@@Scarcrow84 there is only one God the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob all others are Idols
Dr O is giving Jesse some bars here "to put it mildly that's a terrible way of thinking because it doesn't follow logically" 😂😂😂😂
This man was hurt by a women and can clearly see that hate and the disdain for women.
Very enjoyably and respectful interview 👏
AMAZIN!
😊Good morning all of you out there, Praise God from whom all blessings flow
i really enjoy this show this beautiful Sunday
mornings
thanks and all praises to Our Father who art in Heaven amen❤
I love Doctor Ogobanana!!
Excuse me it's Obunganaynay
Not Ogococnut?
Do you guys feel better? "Christians" yeah right .
Dr O is a Smart man and has great energy and a sense of humor
Amazin' interview and conversation. Big love from Mami Afrika to JLP and the Fallen State! What Da! Love from 🇰🇪. Never miss an episode.
Jambo! 🇰🇪 😎
The best Jesse interview is brought to you by 🇳🇬 didn’t fall for the trolling, had his facts and maneuvered the humor
I can’t tell, does Jesse say these things to provoke the guests, or does he truly believe this? Like how conversations should go in one ear and out the other
@@dannytran1587 No it's the guests problem that can't handle truth and brutal honesty.
This is great, thanks
Jesse has mommy issues, he has a good debate with this man, he didn't try shock value on this man, this man was of a high intellect. Jesse didn't know where to go with thos one. Glad that he was respectful, he still tried do those statements
The mistake he is making is comparing men and women with the idea that one is better than the other. By doing so he creates a competition between us and that is terribly unhealthy. I can’t birth children and you can’t curl 100lb dumbbells. It is what it is, but that doesn’t make you better than me or me better than you. We are simply different and must accept that fact. The moment we try to outdo each other in our respective lanes we are doomed.
I TRULY ENJOYED THIS EXCHANGE THUMBS 👍 UP
WOW! I thoroughly enjoyed this show.
Jesse is amazin and Dr.O is amazin! I would love to see this guest again. Good job!
This guest Dr O and Pastor Gino Jennings is the best guests I've seen on this show they both held their composure dealing with this Grade A Mysoginistic C..n!!!
"they both held their composure dealing with this Grade A Misogynistic C**n"
Jesse and Dr.O were the only two on the show. What 'Misogynistic C**n' did they have to deal with?
The world needs alot more people like Dr. O
No it does not. It needs alot less He's spreading division and false teachings like its nobodies business all while hiding behind his skin colour.
If more Christians were like Dr O, our country would actually be a better place
Ummm lol he is very anti-white
Finally, the studio version of the GREATEST show on this side of HEAVEN! AMAZIN! I've been waiting in anticipation for so long. Keep up the amazing work Jesse and the EXPERTS, you're legends!
Awesome
This is dope! One of Jesse's top guest.
This was a phenomenal episode.
He’s a loveable Igbo guy, that’s how a lot of them are.
Jesse is a huge troll!🤣😄
I like him but he borders on pettiness and seems to be venting anger even if he seems calm while doing it. He rarely does this but he does do it.
This the best episode yet!! When. I was 16 I had the opportunity to go to Ghana west Africa. I was there for two weeks. It was not a mission trip, it was just a trip. In fact I had more africans witness and talk about the gospel to me than iv ever had in america!! That experience changed my view on Africa and the people there. They are people with big hearts, and God has a special plan for them! I'm now in my 30s and I think about the people I met and who accepted me into their home (cement shacks with no electricity) everyday, they would share what little food they had with me out of hospitality. We can learn alot from each other! The american view of Africa and the people there is way way off. I see black people in america speak about mother Africa but yet have never been there. I had many Africans tell me they wish their great great grandparents were slaves, because then they would be born in America. Americans in general don't know how good life is in america. Harrison, Narrison, Godwin, may we meet again in the next life!
The ones who wish they had slave ancestors dont know what they are saying,there is a reason why Barack Obama a blackman with no slave ancenstry (no offence) had the confidence to ran for office and win yet Jesse Jackson and many others couldnt.Slave mentality can be real...For example the Africans in South Africa behave different from Africans say in Kenya or Nigeria.Yes Africa plus Asia still suffer from stigmatization or colonization but they are overcoming.
@@liamkisa9862 I think it's you who doesn't understand. They said that, because then they would have been born in America, having more opportunities and a better way of life, being born in America and being american citizens!
Funny how people like to say how good black americans have it. But they have never had the black experience. Jesse's stupid for real. He has this negative view of blacks. When there are a lot of blacks doing well.
Best convo on this show. Two intelligent minds working together to understand and to learn and to teach. Jesse's best convos have been with those who are humble and wise in their understanding of our human and spiritual nature.
I won't say that. Jlp is too ignorant for this. I wise man will see where he is incorrect about certain issues. This man just believes he is right on all issues. Sad
Dr. O was AMAZIN !! 🤣🤣
I love ❤️ Dr O and the supernatural Christianity that he talks about and is involved in.
There is no such thing as “supernatural” FYI.
So that's what they're calling it..thank you!
I love this show Very pleasant ❤️😊
Jesse, this was one of your best interviews, and your guest , was very resourceful with his knowledge of God! Man this discussion was deep & intelligently challenging, learning both, sides, most not all , not all ..lol, I laughed I was thinking 🤔 very quiet, not to miss hearing back & forward debat, agree or disagree. Goodness 👍
Great interview.
I AM SHOCKED THAT DR.O WASTED HIS TIME WITH JESSE FALLEN MINDSET
Paul says that women can not be leaders or pastors in the church. We can not pastor or preach and I agree with that. A woman should never be in a position of leadership over men but Paul says woman can be teachers. I teach Sunday school and I love teaching children about The Bible and salvation only through Jesus Christ.
Best interview yet! 💯
This was great. Wonderful. Shows that two people can have a civil conversation and still disagree.
Love, peace, and chicken grease
Dang jesse don't know the bible at tall. What tha! Who lied to him.. lol
And he's leading the people of his so called church to damnation
Great interview jesse. Keep the good work going.
I love this interview
He knows where the bread is buttered!
Dr O is sharp, smart, intelligent
I’ve typed, deleted and re-typed; Jesse, thanks for providing perspective. Best guest ever.
Should be 2 hours this was AMAZIN!!!
When this interview started, he was a baritone...By the time it ended, he was a tenor 😆
😂😂
Giving jesse a run for his money. Lol..
Amazin' episode!
Great commentary. Excellent content.
"ooooh Lawd, not Deborah!"
LOL!!
Savage Moment
How can you put down and consider yourself superior to someone who gave BIRTH to you?
All this people that co.e from africa are so nice and has no hate in their hearts. What a difference!
Dr. O is a great man.
I loved this interview! Funny and enlightening!
JLP is a funny man. Albeit a bit dumb though
This outta be Amazin!
I'm loving this conversation ❤️