I would love to see Logitech come out with a new HOTAS or even just a standalone throttle to be paired up with the Logitech 3D. Great video, keep up the great work! :D
I'm planning to buy thrustmaster T-16000M, however i dont really like anykind of RGB lighting that it has on the stick...does it has turn off switch or RGB lighting control in the software?
i've cut the wires on leds or just covered them with paint or whatever before, to get rid of that kind of "feature," a lot of the times that junk just hurts my eyes
I Have both sticks Logitech Extreme 3d pro and Thrustmasters T-16000m. I fly sim in WarThunder mostly. Need to get into DCS I Filed that seam off of my E3d pro. One of the first things I noticed and hated about it. The E3dPro is a great lap stick because it's sloped forward. The t16000 sucks as a lap stick being straight up and down straining ur wrist when u pull a loop. The E3dpro Deadzone Sucks. It is super loose and clunky. I had to turn the sensitivity way down in War Thunder and could not in an older flight sim il2 Sturmovik. Lots of movement in the sensors before u even feel the spring resistance. The t16 deadzone is Awesome. There basically is no deadzone. The E3dPro's Hat is a million times better for looking around in the cockpit cause its rubber. The t16's hat is smaller and plastic and Super slippery when ur about to die and need to look around but cant... lol. E3dPro's hat is so good in War thunder With Max sensitivity I think would prefer it to TrackIR The E3dPro Hat buttons feel good to press except for the 2 lower button protrude out at a sharp angle and wear a blister into ur thumb when using them to fire weapons often. i filed them down. The t16 hat buttons are a slicker plastic and feel cheap compared to the E3dPro The E3dPro Base buttons and Slider are comfortable to use. The t16 slider doesn't adjust as finely quickly and the buttons feel like complete garbage. They don't press evenly, the plastic feels cheap and they are too closely placed with cracks between each other That is my take on it since... e3dpro 23$ refurbished eBay 2014-2018 sensors worn out. (Looking at a Force3Dpro now) t16000m 50$ new eBay 2016 rarely used
I believe it but also, that 20% you find floating around are literally bullet proof. I found mine at goodwill and have already run it through hundreds of hours. Lord knows why it refuses to die. So I'd take the 5 dollar gamble again.
Thrustmaster aggressively promotes their contactless sensors, but they never tell you the T16000M uses a cheap pot for the Z-axis, just like the Logitech 3D Extreme Pro.
I actually find the T16000m to be way to hard back to center for micro precision movements. Aiming in games like Star Citizen is very difficult not to overshoot your targets.
Interesting watchinb the review. I gavd the later version of the thrust master with orange lights . Its supported directly in ED but you have to be wary that the z axis on these looses calibration and drifts randomly after a while. Calibration software may help but usually not and repair attempts seem to be temporary fixes. Itsa pitty as its a nice cintroller other than that. I had a saitek one (x52 i think) before that, nice controller but really poor mini din connector between throttle and stick. *edit* Finally fixed the z drift. Openend it ip and gave it a feww good old blasts of contact cleaner. Left it to evaporate and re assembled. All good now, no drift at all.
"thrustmaster is mercedes" Dude, STFU. You have no idea what you're talking about. The only durable product Thrustmaster makes is the Warthog throttle. If you want premium quality, you have to get Virpil or VKB (with metal cams, not the plastic ones like the Gladiator NXT).
the voice of an angel and only 25 subs wtf?!?!
@Jordy Toby na, I'll stick to my fmovies, movies123, and pirate bay to get my flix
Can you tell me if you had problems in the z axis on both joysticks??
I would love to see Logitech come out with a new HOTAS or even just a standalone throttle to be paired up with the Logitech 3D.
Great video, keep up the great work! :D
just need to move the throttle over there with the buttons imo and change the yaw to a spring-loaded slider on the front of it
I'm planning to buy thrustmaster T-16000M, however i dont really like anykind of RGB lighting that it has on the stick...does it has turn off switch or RGB lighting control in the software?
sorry i dont think you can turn it off :(
@@DedPixels what about Thrustmaster TCA sidestick airbus editon? Do you know if this joystick also have RGB lighting like T-16000M?
i've cut the wires on leds or just covered them with paint or whatever before, to get rid of that kind of "feature," a lot of the times that junk just hurts my eyes
my 3d extreme still going strong after 2 weeks of play time on it in elite dangerous. was interested in trying the T16000m as well.
im very disappointed with it. Did U buy?
Anyone else wanting to buy a T16000M But they're $200 right now
I Have both sticks Logitech Extreme 3d pro and Thrustmasters T-16000m. I fly sim in WarThunder mostly. Need to get into DCS
I Filed that seam off of my E3d pro. One of the first things I noticed and hated about it.
The E3dPro is a great lap stick because it's sloped forward. The t16000 sucks as a lap stick being straight up and down straining ur wrist when u pull a loop.
The E3dpro Deadzone Sucks. It is super loose and clunky. I had to turn the sensitivity way down in War Thunder and could not in an older flight sim il2 Sturmovik. Lots of movement in the sensors before u even feel the spring resistance. The t16 deadzone is Awesome. There basically is no deadzone.
The E3dPro's Hat is a million times better for looking around in the cockpit cause its rubber. The t16's hat is smaller and plastic and Super slippery when ur about to die and need to look around but cant... lol. E3dPro's hat is so good in War thunder With Max sensitivity I think would prefer it to TrackIR
The E3dPro Hat buttons feel good to press except for the 2 lower button protrude out at a sharp angle and wear a blister into ur thumb when using them to fire weapons often. i filed them down. The t16 hat buttons are a slicker plastic and feel cheap compared to the E3dPro
The E3dPro Base buttons and Slider are comfortable to use. The t16 slider doesn't adjust as finely quickly and the buttons feel like complete garbage. They don't press evenly, the plastic feels cheap and they are too closely placed with cracks between each other
That is my take on it since...
e3dpro 23$ refurbished eBay 2014-2018 sensors worn out. (Looking at a Force3Dpro now)
t16000m 50$ new eBay 2016 rarely used
i think narrow work space for logitech is a plus, at least for me personally. i tire my and slower and don't push the stick too hard because of that
How flimsy and accurate is the rudder vs the Logitech (which is the worst Ive used. I hade to set a bread specrum for deadzone)
the "Logitech Extreme 3D Pro" yaw potentiometer will break in 80% of cases within the first year
I believe it but also, that 20% you find floating around are literally bullet proof. I found mine at goodwill and have already run it through hundreds of hours. Lord knows why it refuses to die. So I'd take the 5 dollar gamble again.
same with the t16000m mine broke in 6 months, then i ordered 2 more and they both had drift.
Thrustmaster aggressively promotes their contactless sensors, but they never tell you the T16000M uses a cheap pot for the Z-axis, just like the Logitech 3D Extreme Pro.
Thanks for this review man! Keep it up, you can go far.
I actually find the T16000m to be way to hard back to center for micro precision movements. Aiming in games like Star Citizen is very difficult not to overshoot your targets.
i noticed this too coming from the E3dPro
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Interesting watchinb the review. I gavd the later version of the thrust master with orange lights . Its supported directly in ED but you have to be wary that the z axis on these looses calibration and drifts randomly after a while. Calibration software may help but usually not and repair attempts seem to be temporary fixes. Itsa pitty as its a nice cintroller other than that. I had a saitek one (x52 i think) before that, nice controller but really poor mini din connector between throttle and stick.
*edit*
Finally fixed the z drift. Openend it ip and gave it a feww good old blasts of contact cleaner. Left it to evaporate and re assembled. All good now, no drift at all.
Does it work in Windows 10?
Yes they both do. I tested them both in windows 10 on my PC.
Is there a tutorial for setting up Logitech Extreme 3D Pro Joystick???
Its plug and play, you have to bind the buttons in game.
If you want to play precision games like war thunder then definitely don't go for the logitech. The stick travel is too narrow and it's just horrible
Thrustmaster T Flight Stick X? Pretty good stick too...
The Logitech has a small dead zone. Not good.
Как жаль что нет субтитров, моих знаний не хватает чтобы полностью понять
Anyone have a t16000m throttle and want to fix the friction problems? Look no further: ruclips.net/video/uXqHUsm0cho/видео.html
thrustmaster is mercedes logitech is opel this is not equal comparision.. logitech is good performance according to the price
"thrustmaster is mercedes"
Dude, STFU. You have no idea what you're talking about. The only durable product Thrustmaster makes is the Warthog throttle.
If you want premium quality, you have to get Virpil or VKB (with metal cams, not the plastic ones like the Gladiator NXT).
logitech seems much more stiff tho
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