I was waiting for a video like this. Not many people teach how to apply the electric, rather they just focus on just being to do it. Perfect video, Momo.
Hey Momo, wanted to say thanks for all your content in T8 so far, been helping a lot. This vid came up in my recommended at like 12am Aus time and what you said about having the confidence to go for EWGF whiff punishes in real matches resonated. Inspired me to jump on before bed and won my eternal ruler promo hitting 2 whiff punish electrics where I normally would’ve just b2 or 112. 😁 Love the content brother, Ty for the help
As a general note is if you're using electric for whiff punishment and they whiff during your forward dash you just need to input d,df+2. So technically the electric can almost come out in 11 frames. It's one of the reasons electric is so strong as a whiff punishment tool.
I definitely feel this. As someone who practices electrics almost daily on pad and can’t execute 10/10 but maybe 6-7/10 on a good day. Doing a dash makes it more of a 8-9/10
I remember you answering my questions in the comment section on how your whiff punishment with noctis against lowhighs steve was so on point. You gave me basically the same advice that you went over in this video (moving with purpose and being mentally aware of whiffs) and its really improved every aspect of my gameplay in tekken. Just the basic idea of "be more aware" gave me a really big push to push through blues in T7 while i was struggling ❤
"If you are getting them to duck with just electrics, this is a bigger win than you think." I love the theory talk, please do more like this. It doesn't have to be the ultimate definitive guide on etc etc, just hearing your thoughts on how things work, or should work, is very insightful. If possible, could you do more videos like this on the topic of neutral in general? Specifically about keepout and the timing of it. Yes, it is simple but I would appreciate a deeper dive into keepout like you did with whiff punishment.
I appreciate this. There are so many good in depth guides people are making for both new and vet players alike. And while theyre all great, alot of them tend to completely skip over the simple stuff, like buttons to use in neutral and how to use certain tools like EWGF, because they think its not important if you have any experience, and I just feel like you’re never too good to go over the basics.
You sir are the most valuable DVJ content creator on youtube. Thank you for what you do momo! I'd go as far to say as the best at the character, but qudans exists hahahaha.
I think you covered everything important. Great video. I will add that if you can get a really fast EWGF, you can start to squeeze into gaps in opponents offense and that will really fuck them up mentally. But that shit is hard. Also, EWGF loses a lot of value against very evasive characters IMO. Lastly, when it comes to whiff punishment, occasionally you need to use a mid because the opponent recovers crouching, or even just the animation will leave them in a position where highs are evaded.
This is true I’m a garyu kaz main I fought a Leo and sidestepped his move (it crushes highs idk the notation for it) and did electric it whiffed and he LAUNCHED me ngl I was irritated
Momo, i find, (i think) a pretty good combo, guarenteed due to the jab starter. The combo is : -1 Shoot the work (two jab, one kick) But you must stop at the first kick then Go into Samsara, holding for Fly and go for Infernal Annihilation. Dmg: 73 After that you can Ground Laser hit or any move that can hit when he is on ground if you qick enought All that move are guarenteed to hit without fail as long you get duck or block on the starter. Im a low rank and DVJ is so amazing (i get beat down but i wont give up on him despite his difficult match vs all the spammer) Hard to hit Hellsweep on controller without burning his finger, so i must came up with this idea. Ty for your guide and good luck on the ladder.
im not sure if its a skill issue on my end, but i find it hard to say deviljins fastest launcher is 14 frames. i know you said in theory, but even then that thought is SO hypothetical, when im in a good mood i get a reina electric in like 4 frames of input, my average is 6.
Ill say, the fact EWGF cant be buffered makes me not use the move in block at all and barely for frametraps, so i mainly use em for keep out and whiff punishing, might try to improve execution for more utility, such a cool move :)
Devil jin main here and I am always STRUGGLING against paul bro, any tips? A video about how to deal with certain characters will be quite helpful mate
hey momo, thanks for your nice DJ vid, its really helpful :D I play DJ by my pad(hori octa? maybe), usually i have a problem with CD at 2P i need some tips, could u give me some advise ?
Best to start very slow, focus on getting a crouchdash by inputting it VERY slowly and precise, become faster with it the more you start feeling comfortable with your speeds!
every single move that is -14 has its own unique blockstun, punishing -14 with EWGF is more about training a feel for that blockstun than just practicing electrics
Okay. This makes so much sense. I thought it was the case but I wasn’t sure. Because I can get certain moves almost every time in training mode and other like 1/50
I wonder if anyone has a chart with that info. Because I’d the moves that are all the same and just settle with that. The 14 frame punish is pretty damn good in heat.
Man hat richtig gesehen das knee einen sehr unoptimized dj hat aber er dich durch seine kranken fundamentals trotzdem auf dem mars geboxt hat . Aber trotzdem krank gespielt hast du gegen ihn
I'm so confused about this channel, I wanted to learn how to make music in clubs, instead i'm watching some emo edgar allen poe wannabe beating up rashid
I was waiting for a video like this. Not many people teach how to apply the electric, rather they just focus on just being to do it. Perfect video, Momo.
To get better with DJ in T8 I downloaded the of DAH VXF for the electric. Helps a lot.
What is that?
*SFX
@@uberstoof6819his old voice clip
I need that shit bro, where did you find it?
@@javiermnk4194 search up Tekken 8 mods devil Jin t7 sfx. When you find it, the page shows where to put the downloaded mod
Hey Momo, wanted to say thanks for all your content in T8 so far, been helping a lot.
This vid came up in my recommended at like 12am Aus time and what you said about having the confidence to go for EWGF whiff punishes in real matches resonated.
Inspired me to jump on before bed and won my eternal ruler promo hitting 2 whiff punish electrics where I normally would’ve just b2 or 112. 😁
Love the content brother, Ty for the help
Momodog your videos always help me so much. Im so thankful to have found your channel. Thanks again
As a general note is if you're using electric for whiff punishment and they whiff during your forward dash you just need to input d,df+2. So technically the electric can almost come out in 11 frames. It's one of the reasons electric is so strong as a whiff punishment tool.
this one feels %100 misinformation it would take at least 14 (13 if kazuya or reina) anyway but will try this out
@lordnegative3710 it's not, the additional frames come from the input.
I definitely feel this. As someone who practices electrics almost daily on pad and can’t execute 10/10 but maybe 6-7/10 on a good day. Doing a dash makes it more of a 8-9/10
I am not aware of other YT channels explaining DJ in such details.
I must say your DJ guides have been quite helpful. Thank you!
I remember you answering my questions in the comment section on how your whiff punishment with noctis against lowhighs steve was so on point. You gave me basically the same advice that you went over in this video (moving with purpose and being mentally aware of whiffs) and its really improved every aspect of my gameplay in tekken. Just the basic idea of "be more aware" gave me a really big push to push through blues in T7 while i was struggling ❤
"If you are getting them to duck with just electrics, this is a bigger win than you think."
I love the theory talk, please do more like this. It doesn't have to be the ultimate definitive guide on etc etc, just hearing your thoughts on how things work, or should work, is very insightful.
If possible, could you do more videos like this on the topic of neutral in general? Specifically about keepout and the timing of it. Yes, it is simple but I would appreciate a deeper dive into keepout like you did with whiff punishment.
Will keep the idea in mind!
been a Steve main for a while always wanted to get good with Djin but found it intimidating, these vids are really concise and clear thanks
Hearing your thoughts on stuff is really awesome. Not much stuff like this out there.
Thank you so much.
I’m new and you are my no1 source for Devil Jin tech
I appreciate this. There are so many good in depth guides people are making for both new and vet players alike. And while theyre all great, alot of them tend to completely skip over the simple stuff, like buttons to use in neutral and how to use certain tools like EWGF, because they think its not important if you have any experience, and I just feel like you’re never too good to go over the basics.
Please keep these videos coming! You’re an amazing devil Jin and content creator.
Thanks for providing a whiff punishment training example. Actionable and easy to replicate
Nice video! I enjoyed the guide too as I moonlight from Kazuya to Devil Jin from time to time!
You sir are the most valuable DVJ content creator on youtube. Thank you for what you do momo! I'd go as far to say as the best at the character, but qudans exists hahahaha.
I think you covered everything important. Great video.
I will add that if you can get a really fast EWGF, you can start to squeeze into gaps in opponents offense and that will really fuck them up mentally. But that shit is hard. Also, EWGF loses a lot of value against very evasive characters IMO. Lastly, when it comes to whiff punishment, occasionally you need to use a mid because the opponent recovers crouching, or even just the animation will leave them in a position where highs are evaded.
This is true I’m a garyu kaz main I fought a Leo and sidestepped his move (it crushes highs idk the notation for it) and did electric it whiffed and he LAUNCHED me ngl I was irritated
@@seanbrown7083 Shit is mega annoying hahaha. Especially with kaz as he has no mid launching whiff punisher without being in heat.
How to get that half white wing?
I am new to tekken, but why is devil jin morning crow into 2 2 (-9) punishable with a jab? What am I missing about this game.
Thats gonna be my new drill for breakfast, 10m wiff punnish training against the bot :D
Thanks man, great video!
these videos are amazing man, thanks alot
Thanks for the content. In the future will you be able to do a wavedash handcam guide with the razer
Thanks for the video!
Bro how did you color the wings ?
I never thought of using forward 2,3 for oki setup after sentai 1+2, interesting
For me not being able to buffer is what makes me forget about it when being to close and on the defense.
Momo, i find, (i think) a pretty good combo, guarenteed due to the jab starter.
The combo is :
-1 Shoot the work (two jab, one kick)
But you must stop at the first kick then
Go into Samsara, holding for Fly and go for Infernal Annihilation.
Dmg: 73
After that you can Ground Laser hit or any move that can hit when he is on ground if you qick enought
All that move are guarenteed to hit without fail as long you get duck or block on the starter.
Im a low rank and DVJ is so amazing (i get beat down but i wont give up on him despite his difficult match vs all the spammer)
Hard to hit Hellsweep on controller without burning his finger, so i must came up with this idea.
Ty for your guide and good luck on the ladder.
im not sure if its a skill issue on my end, but i find it hard to say deviljins fastest launcher is 14 frames.
i know you said in theory, but even then that thought is SO hypothetical, when im in a good mood i get
a reina electric in like 4 frames of input, my average is 6.
Loving your videos man
Ill say, the fact EWGF cant be buffered makes me not use the move in block at all and barely for frametraps, so i mainly use em for keep out and whiff punishing, might try to improve execution for more utility, such a cool move :)
Hey momo, any advice for the xiaoyu matchup?
How do you wave dash and do ewgf so easily on the right side?
You think devil jin will get nerfed next patch?
Devil jin main here and I am always STRUGGLING against paul bro, any tips?
A video about how to deal with certain characters will be quite helpful mate
Will start a project on "Devil Jin vs x characters" once I find the time to do so!
Uf3+4 to punish death fist or demo man
Tips on how to electric to punish a blocked rage art? I can’t get the timing right at all. Also, is normal wind god fist 14 frames, or slower?
Wind god 15
Are you playing on lever if so which lever
how did u change hp bar color?
Need a guide on your edit bro it’s lit
hey momo, thanks for your nice DJ vid, its really helpful :D
I play DJ by my pad(hori octa? maybe), usually i have a problem with CD at 2P
i need some tips, could u give me some advise ?
Best to start very slow, focus on getting a crouchdash by inputting it VERY slowly and precise, become faster with it the more you start feeling comfortable with your speeds!
Does Kazuya's EWGF share the same properties and framedata?
Yes , except kazuya also has the perfect electric which is 1f faster than electric
@@justhit6673 I see, thanks!
Can u do a commentary vid on your matches against knee
Momo, what controller do you use?
Do you have any tips on -14 ewgf punishes aside from practice??
every single move that is -14 has its own unique blockstun, punishing -14 with EWGF is more about training a feel for that blockstun than just practicing electrics
Okay. This makes so much sense. I thought it was the case but I wasn’t sure. Because I can get certain moves almost every time in training mode and other like 1/50
I wonder if anyone has a chart with that info. Because I’d the moves that are all the same and just settle with that. The 14 frame punish is pretty damn good in heat.
How do you have purple health bars
Great video, keep it up
Wtf so much knowledge and consistency on Devil Jin from Vanquisher!? Surerly you will reach Garyu soon! 😂
Do you play on pad momo?
what lever do you use?
pad
hello Momo, can you please tell me what lever you use?:)
I play on pad
@@Momo-Dog wow very nice thank you
I am in tekken emperor and I cannot deal with sidestep I feel like I have nothing to punish them just side stepping me the entire game.
Whats the best combo off of hellsweep?
run in ws1,1 into morning crow 4,2,1+2
you can just mash 1+2 after morning crow 4
I struggle with the inputs for cdl4
Hi, what your game pad name? Plz
Razer Raion!
@@Momo-Dog 난 너의 19살 팬이야 유튜브 영상 많이 올려줘 땡큐 🙏
Man hat richtig gesehen das knee einen sehr unoptimized dj hat aber er dich durch seine kranken fundamentals trotzdem auf dem mars geboxt hat . Aber trotzdem krank gespielt hast du gegen ihn
I'm so confused about this channel, I wanted to learn how to make music in clubs, instead i'm watching some emo edgar allen poe wannabe beating up rashid
enter the rabbit hole
I can do ewgf since tekken 3 comes out. Im dinosaur 😅
I beat your ghost online
Le Di un dislike, en todo el vídeo sólo hace backdash
Aprende inglés campeón, un saludo.