MINIMUM 'SUCCESS' TARGETS! | England, Ireland, South Africa, New Zealand, Scotland, Wales & Aus
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- MINIMUM 'SUCCESS' TARGETS! | England, Ireland, South Africa (Springboks), New Zealand (All Blacks), Scotland, Wales & Australia (Wallabies) | Autumn Rugby Internationals 2024
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I think you have it spot on, if our Boks lose 1 its okay, they will probably be experimenting. I hope the Wallabies have a good run, their backline is dangerous when it fires on all cylinders.
lol all teams are experimenting lol. If you lose it is because you lost!
I reckon you've forgotten NZ play Japan this weekend followed by England, Ireland, France and finish with Italy ; that's a hell of an itinerary.
Cheers, Ross
Indeed, 5 fixtures!!
Great video as always. Really looking forward to this Autumn series. A lot of teams playing great rugby, with other teams really upping their standards. Should be an exciting few weeks of rugby
I think that you're spot on about the Northern Hemisphere. I think that the Southern Hemisphere carry the same pressure to win more than they lose at least. It's going to be an epic series.
Thanks for a great show. Its a good opportunity for the southern hemisphere teams to gain points for world rankings . Boks won most of their games but didn't get much points because they played at home alot. Saying that I think we can only get points from England. Holding thumbs...
Wales are coming for ya.
The loss to Argentina cost them big time
A lot of sense in that analysis, thanks. Curious to see how Scotland fare against tougher opposition than the summer. No mention of the Ireland match when analysing NZ targets??
It's a trap, NZ are pretending they are not playing Ireland to lull us into a false sense of not playing them.
Then..... SURPRISE!
I think with the strength of the Springbok squad and the lack of new faces, the expectation should be to get 3/3. Off to watch them in Cardiff, should be a great game!
Good stuff. Yeah, as an Irish fan we have to win all 4 for it to be considered a success, no pressure! It's a tough set of games though.
After seeing who Rassie chose for the Bok touring team it seems clear that he is going for three out of three, with the team that beat Argentina in the 2nd test going up against England while rotating for both Scotland and Wales. The Boks are also taking three front rows that is going to steamroller anything in front of them. Australia could just be the surprise package of these tours, providing they get decent weather and manage to keep their heads for the full 80 minutes.
NZ also play against Ireland (as well as England, France and Italy) which makes it an extremely challenging tour.
Australia 2/3???? They are playing four games!
England need to either win all 4, or win 3 and beat NZ by more then a 1 score game for it to be successful series scraping 3 isnt improving from this time last year
Excited to see England, feels like a settled squad and system despite the coach changes and the Chessum injury. Ted Hill in the squad, maybe he'll play against Japan.
Nice analysis, agree with most of it. I think rassie may play an experimental team against Wales, especially if they have two wins under the belt at that point. They’d still expect to win though 😊
Agree with all your assessment on all the teams
For me, England, over time, is still the "big rival in the North", for the Boks to measure us against - then followed by Ireland and France. England just went through a bad patch with bad / rotating coaches - and I expect them to be good at end 2024 and in 2025
I expect Argentina and All Blacks from the South - and Scotland and England - to surprise some of their opponents at end 2024
you always prepare well bokke wants win all
Australia is also playing Ireland, but agree with 2/4
Last time England played South Africa South Africa won by one single point. They South Africa are not under so much pressure like then but I think England are capable of beating South Africa.
it wouldnt surprise me.
There will be a few shocks.....anybody can beat anybody on their day
agree!
3/4 for England would be a great Autumn. 2/4 is more likely. I see us as tier 1.5 at the minute - good but behind the top 4 (France, Ireland, NZ, SA) by a step. I'd swap a loss to NZ for a win over SA all day. Ireland need to win all their games. Scotland and Wales - who knows? Both can produce great results. Will France pick a fully-loaded team?
Australia has a grandslam tour of the UK, you missed the fact that they are also playing Ireland
I think the autofocus issue is because of all the faces on the wall behind you. They do look cool though.
For England: Good wins against Japan and Australia, a win against NZ and being competitive against SA is what’s required imo.
This !
England aint beating NZ 😂.
Did you forget NZ's game against Ireland?
When England toured NZ Scott Robinson had just taken over and the All Blacks hadn't played a test match for a while. Since then they have played a lot of games and we have played none so they now have that advantage. I feel we will be outclassed.
Against S.A. we have a decent chance as that will be a slugfest and we are not bad at that.
You’re giving NZ more respect at this stage , that they haven’t shown yet , believe England would win, but NZ played a lot of rugby recently, should give them the advantage, but it’s Twicks 😂😂😂
I think if NZ wins one Razor will take that and say “gives us a firm platform going forward” just not sure which one it will be hopefully Italy as we are building momentum
I think most bok fans will only accept 3 out of 3. Most feel we should not have dropped the two we did this year so a loss will not be handled well. Unless, it’s a loss with an experiential side and from the squad they are taking…there are now cpirments there. All class.
As a saffa win all games is success
You won’t beat Wales.
NZ are playing 5... Japan, England, Ireland, France and Italy...... not 3....
‚No rest for the wicked‘ certainly applies to international rugby today - and especially for southern hemisphere players. Too much is as bad as too little. The Boks and ABs must be a bit more fatigued than Eng, Sco, etc.
I dont agree. The abs just had 5 weeks off. Anyone can be fresh after 5 weeks off. Against Japan they looked like they were lucky to get a hit out.
Why do you still make this excuse when its the exact same when we tour the South in the summer?
Agree that nothing less than 4 from 4 for Ireland is acceptable. If we lose to ABs we will be disgusted.
The Australian side have forgotten about the lineout and how it can win games in Rugby. Until they get the forward balanced I think Ireland England thrash them and Scotland will beat them. The balance side we had this year was against wales and we had three good jumpers in that lineout. Valentini, Wilson and Skelton are good players but onething they cannot do and is jump.
Why would you leave Argentina out? Not only have they been a tier 1 nation for a long time but they also are better than half the teams you talked about
Good point.
He mentioned them around 2:00
Yeah it takes a long time for mind sets to shift. Argentina have come on a lot since joining the rugby championship with some great wins. One thing I would say is that they need more consistency. Everyone they have had a big win they’ve been thrashed the next week which is one thing for them to work on.
But Argentina are too up down not consistent enough.
2 out of 3 for South Africa would have been fine if a) we were not playing so well and b) we were playing an Ireland or France. With all respect to England and Scotland, we should not be losing to them the way recent form has gone. We have a couple of injuries but none are game changing, mainly due to the extreme depth we have and we actually have some good players in good form returning to the squad (RG, Damian , Franco, etc).
Never mind the fans, but I don't think Rassie would be happy with any losses on this tour.
New Zealand have four games my bro! England Ireland France and Italy. Will we get 4/4, I doubt it.
That Italy game could be very interesting, considering Italy have a different squad/coach to their last encounter.
I think about spot Rich.
France and Argentina ?
England just need to compete against SA and NZ this time around. Wins against the other two are a must.
Ahh, Australia for the grand slam, so success for you is to count to 4.
Thanks for the video, but New Zealand are playing 4 tests not 3 England, France, Ireland and Italy
Personally I think England can win 3 out of the 4 tests.....BUT NOT THE SPRINGBOKS!!🤗🙏
We haven't introduced RSA to some of our new players :) our new wingers are highball wizards
NZ will beat them dont know about SA only beat them by 1 the last time.
NZL are playing 5 games on their tour.
For the nz end of year tour they play England, France, Ireland and Italy. You left out the Ireland game which will be massive after there quarter final world cup clash .
I'm feeling a bit pessimist over England's chances. I'll be at the all backs game, first time seeing them in the flesh. Given how the AB's went in the RC it really highlights for me how much of a missed opportunity it was winning at least one game down there against a rusty team under new management.
Feels like we need to beat one of NZ/SA. Its been a month or so since the RC, but they won't be as rusty. I find the schedule a bit odd, as historically I thing Eng would usually play the tier 2 nation fixture first up, and would feel a bit more confident if England had a hit out before playing NZ.
I hope my pessimism is proven wrong! There's the change in key personnel to consider too.
The two matches the Boks lost this year were two too many. Anything less than 3/3 will be a failure.
As a Welsh supporter it has to be 2 wins v Fiji and oz then run SA close! For me that has to be the aim! I know were in a bit of a trough atm but I feel this is realistic
Thats very optimistic, Fiji and South Africa are playing very good rugby at the moment, I cant remember when Wales played good rugby, genuinely, maybe 4 years ago? No disrespect.
Given the strength of the squad selected by the Boks, nothing less than 3/3 is acceptable. Maybe if Rassie brought in a bunch of youngsters we would take 2/3, but I don't see this team (at full strength) losing to Scotland or England. That would be a failure.
I would also be surprised if NZ got more than 3/5 from their tour. They should probably beat England, but unsure of Ireland and France.
Excuse me, but aren't we playing England, Ireland, France and the Italy?
I'd have thought the game against Ireland would be pretty important, too
I think successful would be 3/4 for us
I feel Australia just need to be consistent and make it close games not to win
England need 4 wins. Argentina have beaten all the big 3 with a newer coach and less resources.
South Africa are untouchable
Didn't the Argies and Irish touch the SA up,
Don't be arrogant, anyone's touchable,
Overrated and boring 😂.
For me they missed a massive opportunity in NZ BUT you could clearly see they were spent after 60mins after a long season.
Minimum of 3 wins required for me or Borthwick has run out of road.
Like most the country, like a lot of what he's doing but just don't think he has the charisma needed to inspire the team
I rather agree with this but think it a pity you did not make statements on France, Argentina and Italy. Pressure is on Ireland to win all four to keep their number one spot with tough matches against NZ and ARG. ARG have deaden both SA and NZ and if they could scalp IRE and FRA, it would mean beating each of the top four in one season. FRA will EP want to beat NZ and ARG to stay in the top 4 Great for ENG to test themselves against both SA and NZ. Italy have big challenges with ARG and NZ and it would be huge if they could win either. NZ will have just played England, Ireland and France and could conceivably be looking either to complete a four out of four or win for the first time.
Ireland probably the only team who can't afford to drop a single match, Boks I think won't be a disaster if they drop one match but I'm sure they'll be all guns blazing.
Irland is not seen as a rival to SA. Eng and France has big history.
No latitude. 3 out of 3 is expected as boks fans. This isn't an experimental team going on tour. Must win all of them.
3/3, nothing less will be acceptable to Bok fans
England getting 2 wins would be OK, depending on the nature of the losses. The only reason we could expect to beat ABs is because they've been underperforming but form can change especially with New zealand. Beating the boks would be amazing but they're clear favourites. We have to be realistic our front row is not world class, our 2nd is, our back row isn't, earl is but south has a lot to learn at international level and curry isn't back to his best yet. We don't have our first choice 9, smith is world class but still makes mistakes, the centres aren't great, good individually but not together, wabosos looked good, so far. Freeman's bang average on the wing. Furbanks world class. It's a team with strengths for sure, but there's a lot there to be exploited, both the ABs and the boks are more than capable of doing so! The wallabies game is no shoe in, neither.
ABs play five games. Success would be beating Japan, Italy and England. Then we need to win one of Ireland or France. I think that would be considered a success. Losing to both Ireland and France would be considered a failure. Losing more than that would be an absolute disaster.
Italy are going to be well up for this, with their new squad and coach, dont forget they should have beaten France this year.
@@thereader6667And ABs will play the B team against them.
Anyone who thinks losing to Australia at home could be successful for Wales, has to be an Englishman
Off Course 🏴 Want to Win everything! Imo missing the bigger Picture which is WORLD CUP .
Should have taken more Players to bed in for experience.
A TEAM would blast Aussies.
Can only see us Beating Australia Japan,close v Kiwis,smashed by BOKS .
England need to beat NZ, SA probably too big an ask Ireland should win all theirs. Wales to win one, Scotland to win three.
Ireland wont win all theirs 😂.
New Zealand... 3 out of 3... So not playing Ireland huh 😂
Any more jokes kid😂😂😂
Wales are coming for SA.
England have got to win 3/4 at a minimum. Otherwise they’re going to go the way of Scotland under Townsend. Some good performances but never quite able to beat any top teams.
If England lose to NZ and SA they have gone backwards. Ireland need to win all games but NZ will be tough because it’s Irelands first game in a long time
When was the last time England beat either of those teams?
@@spottersworld3135SA 2021 NZ 2019 so its a bit rough to say youve gone backwards if you dont beat them
NZ have the toughest draw if they win them all watch out.
Boks are on a mission to crush the North looking at team selection, pity they not playing Ireland as well. Going to be fun to listeb to the English Pundits moaning and whining.
Point of a slightly odd correction, but New Zealand are playing Japan, England, Ireland, France and Italy. That isn’t three matches, that is five!
Obviously, success will be winning all of them! No excuses.
Ireland vs NZ is the biggest game of these internationals, 50/50 but home advantage might be enough to tip the scale for Ireland 🤞🍀
Ireland lost to England and SA.
SA lost to Ireland and Argentina.
So don't get your logic here that success is SA can drop a game and Ireland can't. 🤷
If Ireland loses one it’s not considered a success but if the world Champions lose one it is considered a success funny that 😅
Agree with your stretch targets, likely results
2/4 for England is all they can expect.
3/4 for Ireland, unless the right Argentina arrives
0/3 for Wales
1/4 for Scotland
3/3 for NZ
3/3 for SA
2/3 for Aus
1st
Ireland will loose against NZ and Argentina.
Pumas no way😂😂😂😂 willymoon boys are finished. Stay off the mushrooms kid.😂😂😂😂😂