I don't understand.😮 You are talking about if/when your EQ adjust lower frequencies than the system can't reproduce. But if your speakers and system can reproduce the EQ frequency then there is not that issue any longer.🤔 The smiley curve is perfectly "normal" and support our human hearing and it is not a coincidence that it is used or popular.🎉(it is how normal hearing works!) As we have learned and doing hearing tests, by conducting those tests in young healthy adults in their peek years and since the 30-ties and onward! And today we even have a ISO standard for it😅 Study the "equal-loudness contour curve" and its implications. You will see that it is smiley shaped frequency response...🎉 That means that your hearing SENSITIVITY is lower the lower we go in frequency and also on the other end, the higher up in frequency we go. Or in short we can put it like that our hearing us the most sensitive in the midrange.🎉 So we see clearly why a smiley curve is most likely supporting our hearing and its sensitivity ALONG the whole frequency band.❤ So no need for trashing smiley curve when if we were perfectly honest is more appropriate (for humans that don't have linearly sensitivity across all frequencies as a calibrated measuring microphone.) Than a "flat" curve. 😂 Consider flat then you will not hear as well the bass and highs as you hear the midrange.😢 Yes everything should be addressed with moderation. A pro tip is that look at the graphs online when you Google "equal-loudness contour". You see that each individual line is less smiley as the loudness (volume) goes up..😊 That means that adjust the EQ at the loudness that you usually are listening to.🎉 (If you adjust EQ while playing at lower loudness then it will be to much bass and highs when you turn up the volume.)❤ In short we need to learn how our hearing works that it is not as I call it "microphone flat".😅❤
I agree with everything you said. Take what this kid says with a grain of salt. He is young and still learning and often gives wrong information. He has a basic understanding of some audio fundamentals but I think he regurgitates stuff he hears or reads without a complete understanding of it just to keep those RUclips videos coming out. He tries ,but usually you gotta double check his info and don’t take it as gospel.
The issue I'm referring to in this video is when people crank up their equalizer on 2 or 3 frequencies, completely kill all the mid range and then crank the last few higher frequencies. I see it more so in car audio on speakers that can't reproduce the frequencies they're blasting. Sure, yes if you have speakers that can replicate those frequencies it's a different story. But tons of people boost things just to boost and that's what this video is all about. Not the science of things.
@Kpaceguy great video, I need your opinion on subs. I'm looking to buy the Xv3 12, is the difference worth purchasing the Zv6 12 for $1k? I can't fit a 15 due to truck space.
@@Pete.across.the.street my Q50S is fully Dynamat Xtreme, I have perfect highs and Mids I just need thumbing bass for my Rap/Hip-hop. EQ has 3 settings, Jazz Blues, R&B and Hip-hop basically.
@@Vr30Boostlyfe if you you just want thump, it doesn't really matter which sub you go with. Just get something decent, and there's plenty of decent quality subs well under$1000 that will get you plenty of spl. No need to spend big in my opinion if you don't care about sound stage.
Speaker always are far from flat. They may have some 1-2 band knobs to tune but it is accidental choice in ranges of harmonics aimed to "cover" design and make problems -it cannot be enough.
@@Mikexception good speakers have a flat response. It won't be flat in your listening position in car though. You have to eq each one flat then add your global eq.
Hey kpace guy whats up bro so is it wise to do time alignment for car audio it seems that only when u are sitting in the car you will get the right phase and levels just like a home theater but if u are outside the car and all the doors open will the sound be weird not sure if I'm saying it right let me know
If you do time alignment right, it is totally worth it. It will sound like the band is on a stage on your dashboard and there is separation between all of the instruments. You can pinpoint each instrument in the sound stage and the speakers will disappear. It won't sound weird outside, you only delay by a few milliseconds. Hearing it from the outside is going to be unaligned already, it won't really matter. If you just want thump and aren't going to blend your sub properly with your speakers, it is not worth it. The bass should sound like it is coming from the front of your car and you shouldn't be able to tell it is coming from the sub, when seated in your listening position if you have everything set up properly. It sounds magical when you get it right. But if you just want super loud hard-hitting bass that is overpowering your other speakers, your sound stage will be destroyed by it, so it won't be worth the money to add a dsp to time align.
You can't really Time align unless you have an aftermarket setup. Either a dsp or an aftermarket headunit however, premium audio in cars will let you move the sound stage to the driver seat, which is what you want anyway
When listeners know all what they should stop doing they can complete top perfect audio setup with ease. In reality it is very complicated - as we know audiophiles pay for gear tens thousands and stiil plan to buy new. . Unfortunately the list of "not to do" is infinite and there is interaction between " what to do" and "what not to do" - means they are make cross jumping. What in one system may be bad in other may be good and opposite No any system has flat response - it is theoretical idea.
This is a great video. I’m going to check my EQ today.
I’m guilty of that, I definitely need to install my audiocontrol dsp
@@antariusb I love mine
I don't understand.😮
You are talking about if/when your EQ adjust lower frequencies than the system can't reproduce.
But if your speakers and system can reproduce the EQ frequency then there is not that issue any longer.🤔
The smiley curve is perfectly "normal" and support our human hearing and it is not a coincidence that it is used or popular.🎉(it is how normal hearing works!)
As we have learned and doing hearing tests, by conducting those tests in young healthy adults in their peek years and since the 30-ties and onward!
And today we even have a ISO standard for it😅
Study the "equal-loudness contour curve" and its implications.
You will see that it is smiley shaped frequency response...🎉
That means that your hearing SENSITIVITY is lower the lower we go in frequency and also on the other end, the higher up in frequency we go.
Or in short we can put it like that our hearing us the most sensitive in the midrange.🎉
So we see clearly why a smiley curve is most likely supporting our hearing and its sensitivity ALONG the whole frequency band.❤
So no need for trashing smiley curve when if we were perfectly honest is more appropriate (for humans that don't have linearly sensitivity across all frequencies as a calibrated measuring microphone.) Than a "flat" curve. 😂
Consider flat then you will not hear as well the bass and highs as you hear the midrange.😢
Yes everything should be addressed with moderation.
A pro tip is that look at the graphs online when you Google "equal-loudness contour".
You see that each individual line is less smiley as the loudness (volume) goes up..😊
That means that adjust the EQ at the loudness that you usually are listening to.🎉
(If you adjust EQ while playing at lower loudness then it will be to much bass and highs when you turn up the volume.)❤
In short we need to learn how our hearing works that it is not as I call it "microphone flat".😅❤
I agree with everything you said. Take what this kid says with a grain of salt. He is young and still learning and often gives wrong information. He has a basic understanding of some audio fundamentals but I think he regurgitates stuff he hears or reads without a complete understanding of it just to keep those RUclips videos coming out. He tries ,but usually you gotta double check his info and don’t take it as gospel.
The issue I'm referring to in this video is when people crank up their equalizer on 2 or 3 frequencies, completely kill all the mid range and then crank the last few higher frequencies. I see it more so in car audio on speakers that can't reproduce the frequencies they're blasting. Sure, yes if you have speakers that can replicate those frequencies it's a different story. But tons of people boost things just to boost and that's what this video is all about. Not the science of things.
But i love smiles 😊😊😊😊😊
@Kpaceguy great video, I need your opinion on subs. I'm looking to buy the Xv3 12, is the difference worth purchasing the Zv6 12 for $1k? I can't fit a 15 due to truck space.
Those are going to ruin your sound stage and give you bloated bass. Get a Morel
@@Pete.across.the.street my Q50S is fully Dynamat Xtreme, I have perfect highs and Mids I just need thumbing bass for my Rap/Hip-hop. EQ has 3 settings, Jazz Blues, R&B and Hip-hop basically.
@@Pete.across.the.street honestly If there isn't a big difference I'd use the rest on a R/C car😂
@@Vr30Boostlyfe if you you just want thump, it doesn't really matter which sub you go with. Just get something decent, and there's plenty of decent quality subs well under$1000 that will get you plenty of spl. No need to spend big in my opinion if you don't care about sound stage.
@Vr30Boostlyfe I went from the X to the Z and it was 100% worth it. It doesn't sound any worse or better just is louder at everything
Smiley face curve makes you smile more tho
Until you turn the music on
I tune all my speakers flat and then use the audio frog curve for the universal EQ curve.
Speaker always are far from flat. They may have some 1-2 band knobs to tune but it is accidental choice in ranges of harmonics aimed to "cover" design and make problems -it cannot be enough.
@@Mikexception good speakers have a flat response. It won't be flat in your listening position in car though. You have to eq each one flat then add your global eq.
Hey kpace guy whats up bro so is it wise to do time alignment for car audio it seems that only when u are sitting in the car you will get the right phase and levels just like a home theater but if u are outside the car and all the doors open will the sound be weird not sure if I'm saying it right let me know
If you do time alignment right, it is totally worth it. It will sound like the band is on a stage on your dashboard and there is separation between all of the instruments. You can pinpoint each instrument in the sound stage and the speakers will disappear. It won't sound weird outside, you only delay by a few milliseconds. Hearing it from the outside is going to be unaligned already, it won't really matter. If you just want thump and aren't going to blend your sub properly with your speakers, it is not worth it. The bass should sound like it is coming from the front of your car and you shouldn't be able to tell it is coming from the sub, when seated in your listening position if you have everything set up properly. It sounds magical when you get it right. But if you just want super loud hard-hitting bass that is overpowering your other speakers, your sound stage will be destroyed by it, so it won't be worth the money to add a dsp to time align.
Thanks kpace guy so what's the best way to time align
You can't really Time align unless you have an aftermarket setup. Either a dsp or an aftermarket headunit however, premium audio in cars will let you move the sound stage to the driver seat, which is what you want anyway
Ok no problem thanks man
No equalizer 😮 DAC Direct 😊
Attenuate 60" true ribbon tweeter
Adjust sub frequency on crossover
When listeners know all what they should stop doing they can complete top perfect audio setup with ease. In reality it is very complicated - as we know audiophiles pay for gear tens thousands and stiil plan to buy new. . Unfortunately the list of "not to do" is infinite and there is interaction between " what to do" and "what not to do" - means they are make cross jumping. What in one system may be bad in other may be good and opposite No any system has flat response - it is theoretical idea.