If you have a NAS, that have 10GbE, you for sure want to go with the X670E instead! - I have gone even further, going 2x10GbE SFP+ instead, one for my own PC, and one for my "server" WOW so happy to transfer files between them with that awesome speed :) (No need for switch btw, just put in SFP+ cables from PC1 to PC2 and your up and running, just remember to use another range then your Ethernet to the WLAN) About Wi-Fi, that is 100% NO GO here at my place. To insecure! USB4 is SO GREAT! I use it for my external NVMe disk! I always need more and more space, and with USB4 that is no longer an issue).
Dr Pain, love the name ;) Yes! I completely agree. My current NAS (QNAP TS-451) only supports 2x 1gb NICs, which I'm using both but I would LOVE to upgrade my network to 10gb. I do like your idea of going directly from an SFP+ card in my system to one on the NAS while still keeping your 10gb NIC port available for everything else. As for Wi-Fi, do you mean inconsistent vs insecure? I have an enterprise cyber security background and from what I know, WEP3 is pretty darn secure. I'll have to try using USB4 for an external NVMe drive. You have some great points in your post, so I'm going to pin it. Thanks for the suggestions!
USB4 is based on the Thunderbolt protocol so it is compatible with Thunderbolt, one thing that can distinguish them is the cables because Thunderbolt 4 must reach 40Gbps and the minimum for USB 4 is 20Gbps, but if the manufacturer wants it, maybe 40Gbps Asus Proart's previous AM4 B550 and X570 boards had Thunderbolt I am surprised that the B650 has been deprived of USB4 and has only 10Gbps USB
@Daniel, thank you for clarifying this information! I'm going to pin this comment for others to see. I thought Thunderbolt was only available on Intel platforms. #learning
@@JohnLCharette Thunderbolt on AMD boards is a rarity with AM4, only Asus Proart B550 and X570, Gigabyte B550 VISION D and ASRock X570 PHANTOM GAMING-ITX and only Asus had thunderbolt 4 where the rest had 3
Absolutely correct. I hope I didn't give off that impression. Fastest fiber Internet I've seen is 3gb, no need for 10gb just yet. I could use it to transfer my video files to my NAS. I average 30-50gb of 4K footage per video I record. My NAS doesn't have 10gb support though either.. hah
20GB?! They'd probably have to have two 10GB ports, I imagine.. which you could use port aggregation to add them up to 20GB. I currently have my NAS in the basement, near my router, but if I really wanted to use it for video editing.. I'd buy one with Thunderbolt and SSD drives. Plug it directly into my PC versus sending traffic across the network.
You failed to mention that x670e has 4 X m.2 slots which supports RAID 0/1/10 which is kind of important to me having two arrays on my SSDs (one OS and one footage work drive) which is there just in case one of the SSDs fail which would leave me unproductive until a new SSD arrives and I get my backup restored.
Ohhh, that's a really good point! Thank you for sharing. I used to use on-board RAID (usually RAID 1) a lot before I got my 4-bay NAS (now using RAID 5). I'm going to pin this comment so others know this information.
@@JohnLCharette got another sas raid controller for footage/photo archive on 6 X SAS 2.3 gb drives in a raid 5 in my Fractal design 7 so my setup is almost the same albeit my drives are internal in my cabinet and shared on the network 😀
Ohhh, that's really good to know. I was just reading through a thread on Reddit. Thank you. I'm going to pin this comment so people are aware. Much appreciated!
I'm pretty deep into the Thunderbolt ecosystem, so I went with the X670E. Worth noting it has a big flaw: The port is not hot-pluggable. If you connect a hub, then those ports are, but don't expect to not turn off the computer before you plug a macbook or whatever into your hub instead. It'll crash.
I just picked up a 7950x3d and a msi mpg x670e carbon wifi and am really happy. Youre right its more expensive than the b650 equivalents but cda computer had the msi on sale for 598 and felt i could justify the price difference.
Very nice board! I'll probably try an X670E motherboard on my next AM5 build. Depending how things go with this Asus drama, I may try out an MSI board. I have been team Asus for years. Any reason you chose MSI over Asus?
@John Charette I had trust issues with asus and the choices they made on the boards with pcie bandwidth sharing on expansion slots was a no go. (X670e-e in particular). I actually started with a x670e aorus master from gigabyte but it died in 2 days so decided to give msi a try. (CC was great honoring their return policy btw they just checked the board to confirm it was dead and I was on my way). A lot of the reviewers are saying the msi mpg carbon x670e is one of the best bang for buck boards without any odd bandwidth sharing and great pcie expansion slot location. The only downside of the msi is it doesn't have usb4 or tb built in which I didn't particularly care about. Hope that answers your question.
USB4 is basically Thunderbolt 3 with an different Name and some additional Features = If you have an TB3 capable Laptop it should work with USB4 at high speed . To my NAS i have a direct 40 Gbit SFP+ connection , you can get used 40 Gbit Server cards for 30-50 Dollar each . The biggest advantage of RDNA4 Cards will be that they will be PCIe5.0 , you dont need 16 Lanes PCIe5.0 for the GPU = 8 Lanes are enough and you can use the other 8 Lanes for other stuff like high speed NICs
I don't use PC wifi as my entire building/office is wired for 5GB ethernet as well as network printer connections. For security/ComSec reasons I dont use Wifi. I also have a Me Built NAS on site so that 5GB is going to outperform the 1 or 2.5. Right now the 5 is doing me good so I'll leave it alone right now. I haven't looked at the schematic of these two boards but usually the X boards have a better chipset and your 2nd M.2 slot isn't halfed down (and as long as your CPU has the threads to feed extra PCI lanes) and tend to run better if you lean on that 2nd and 3rd M.2 slot.
You're absolutely right. The X670E motherboard is far superior in every way. My goal with this video was to show that you could use their lower-end board with a bit of creativity ;) I have since upgraded to using an Intel CPU and selected ProArt's higher-end Z790 motherboard with 10 GB, and I love it.
Hi John, thanks a lot for your great review! I couldn't decide which mobo to get but since I pay for 10 GB fiber Internet at home.. I think the choice is obvious. It's funny because we gonna end up with the same PC : ) I also bought the North Case when it came out ! Great combo for sure !
That's awesome! I'm glad I could help. You'll love the Fractal North case. Have you decided on a GPU yet? Are you going to get a ProArt like this one I reviewed? ruclips.net/video/XVB718HgEHM/видео.html
I built 3 computers in the last year and I don't want to build another one for a long while so I am getting this x670xe it'll probably take 7 years before devices are regularly saturating these connections, if ever.
upgrading to pro art board next week and I was considering adding a NAS within 6 months of my next build and along with future proofing, I was wondering if that was reason enough for 10 gig connectivity, or would 2.5 be enough for a single user environment... mainly NAS editing considerations for Sony fx3 footage. (unsure if current router supports 10gig, assuming probably not as of yet. jump off that bridge when i get to it)
If you can afford the X670E, it's a much better board and you'll future proof yourself with the 10gb. My network is still 1gb, so that's why I stayed with the B650. And yes, you'll need to upgrade ALL of your network to support 10gb, which isn't popular in consumer products yet. You will find routers/switches with 2.5gb ports though pretty easily. Totally your call. Let me know what you end up deciding and why. I'm very curious.
I wanted to see an all pro art set up.. like with a pro art motherboard and a proart gpu 4000 series on a wooden fractal case 😅😂 I thought you're going to build it 😂😂
I'm working on it! I have that ProArt motherboard, a 7950X CPU, a Fractal North wooden case.. I'm just missing the ProArt 4070 Ti or 4080. They aren't available for purchase yet :( I have since picked up an Asus Strix 4070 Ti and 4090 that I'll use for that build. I keep refreshing all websites but no one has the ProArt GPUs in stock yet.
@@JohnLCharette awsome! yeah the proart GPU is hard to get and the version of the motherboard also is even harder B650 unit. But the good thing is it can handle the dimensions of the red devil 7900 XTX.. was looking at specs and i thought it wouldn't fit at all. hope to see you build it and looking forward to it. thank you for the videos! ☺
Great video, Sadly no post code on this motherboard, btw would you recommend Asrock taichi or Gigabyte Aorus x670e for 3d render and design for people who need USB4 and are scared of anything asus after those bios scandals and frying already expensivr components?
Thanks! I haven't used an ASRock board in years, but I did use a Gigabyte Aorus Master last year and it was beautiful. The main difference between those boards is that the ASRock supports USB4 natively, where as, I couldn't find any boards with USB4 yet. Have you found one? I know Asus had their issue, but given everything they've gone through, I trust their products/BIOS' even more because they don't want another PR nightmare. I have a feeling they have tested their new boards/BIOS' more than most companies since.
@@JohnLCharette thanks, btw lots people like to bash asrock as cheap brand, but that Asrock x670e taichi seems to be quaility board, would you say Gigabyte has better build quality and components than Asrock ?
That's a bit of a loaded question - only because I think every manufacturer has their lower and higher end products. I can't speak first hand to the build quality of either, but try and at least compare two products of the same price range when you do your research. Interestingly enough, I just got off a call with my technical Asus rep and he spent an hour helping me understand all of the differences that Asus goes up and above with their products. It was a really neat conversation.
For me the difference is most of my work is 3d and a smaller amount of Motion graphics and editing. The B650 is hobbeled by not being able to stick in a second gpu at x8 but it looks like there are not dual x8 gen 4 pcie motherboards only gen 5. I also have 10gig into my NAS but I only use my NAS for backup. With Asus's recent issues I am looking at the MSI carbon as 10 gig card can just be added. for a Cheaper option MSI's tomahawk x670e is also attractive but again with only 2 graphics slot.
Yeah, Asus is taking it pretty hard right now. I would also consider an MSI board for my next build. That's good to know about 10gb on the carbon line. Did you NAS come with 10gb or did you install an add-in card? I have a QNAP TS-451 and it doesn't have a PCI slot for expandability. It only comes with 2x1gb ports, which I've aggregated.
@@JohnLCharette I got a tvs-473 loaded with max ram and 16 gig drives from a doctors office used for $900 US the add in card was like $100. The question I have as all early adopters do is, are pci5 and Nvme gen5 going to pan out before the platform is over? I have a feeling the next graphic series will be still gen 4 pcie and the gen5 drives while sequentially fast are not much of a random read write improvement and that is where the improvements for me of an ssd are felt.
Beautiful NAS. Mine acts up on me every month or so where one drive will simply disconnect. Rebooting the device finds the drive again and rebuilds the array. It's weird. As for PCIe5 and NVMe 5? Who knows. That's why, at this moment in time, I opt'd for the cheaper motherboard. Maybe in a couple of years, but as you say.. when the next gen CPUs come up, will these chipsets even matter.
Not sure where you got this from, even ASUS’ official website says you can use two GPUs on the B650, and it has the PCIe support for it if you look at the specs. You can use two GPUs on PCIe 4.0 x8/x8 on the B650, which is fast enough for any current gen GPU.
Absolutely. I used it for six months with lots of gaming. The differences are mainly the features (10gb network, built in wifi and more power phases). So, if you're overclocking a lot, then you'll want to go with the X670-E.. but for every day use and gaming, the B650 is great.
@@JohnLCharette Thank you for the answer. I've seen some people were complaining about very slow boot on Windows OS, do you experience any issue like this with this MB?
YES! I forgot about that. It definitely took 20-30 seconds for the initial post. From what I read, it's related to the DDR5 RAM and doing a memory check. I think it's something you can skip, in the BIOS settings. I never turn off my computer, so it didn't really bother me. I also have no idea if the X670-E does the same or not.
meh, I'd rather get the B550 that's not only cheaper, but has the two thunderbolt 4 ports.. that and a 5800x3d and you're set . Don't know why you'd want to swap platforms, get ddr5 ram, and all that
This might be a little too old, but I have a quick question since I recently bought a B650 creatorboard. Will a m.2 gen 3X4 (Ediloca EN600 PRO SSD 256GB PCle 3.0x4, NVMe M.2 2280) be detected by the motherboard as my storage or is this specifically Gen 4 and above? The reason I'm asking is that it didn't detect my spare 256 gb m.2 sata ssd and I have to buy a new storage. Appreciate it thanks :)
Yes, it absolutely should work. M.2 slots are backwards compatible. If you put a Gen3 SSD into a Gen4 slot, it will be limited to Gen3 speeds, but work fine. Similarly, if you put a Gen4 SSD into a Gen3 slot, it will be limited to Gen3 speeds, but works.
@@JohnLCharette Yeah I can confirm that the gen 3 does work, but the m.2 sata ssd doesn't and it didn't matter what settings I had in the bios, it did not detect it at all, but my other motherboard (am4) did
@@JohnLCharette Yeah I tried all m.2 slots and the m.2 nvme ssd works in every slot meanwhile the m.2 sata ssd doesnt in any slot. There might be a setting(s) I need to change to be able to detect the older and cheaper m.2 sata ssd
i buyed it but i dont see it has only one Audio connector. no toslink nothing. thats a BIG - ... i send it back. cannot use my logitech z906 on this. i pay 60€ more for ROG Crosshair Hero Board. this has all what i need.
@@JohnLCharette you can make 5.1 with this board. The owner manual says. 3 wires. Grey to front speakers, black to mid/sub and front connector pink to rear speaker. Totally weird
Hi Bro, I am looking to buy/build a good budget-friendly PC My current budget amount is- 600-700$ Can you please suggest which build would be better? I am confused about Intel or Ryzen. I am also looking for the latest motherboard & components that would support future upgrades for RAM, etc., and if I can install a good GPU on this same budget, that would be great. Please suggest some configurations for both Intel & AMD. It's a request and please reply. PC would be used for gaming & work Thanks & Regards
@4:00 it does if you’re going to make a small render farm pc and you’re putting in two pcie 4.0 gpus in the 5.0 pcie slots running them both at 8x because pcie5 8x = pcie4 16x.
That’s not how it works, putting a PCIe 4.0 GPU into a PCIe 5.0 slot will not magically make it run 5.0, it will run 4.0. In other words, if you out a 4.0 GPU into a 5.0 x8 slot, it will run 4.0 at x8. The number of lanes doesn’t change.
You are absolutely correct. I just re-watched my video and I don't think I mentioned 10gb for Internet. Did I miss speak and say Internet? That being said, you can get 3gb Internet where live, which by using 2.5gb, you wouldn't get full speeds. But I agree, in most cases, it's for data transfer to a NAS or server.
@@levraichris3321 you can plug it, but your pc will never ever be able to use al that bandwidth because there is nothing in the world u can download at 10000GB per second the purpose of the 10gbit ethernet plug on a motherboard is to daisy chain with other machines so u can run multiple nodes eg for rendering, or connect ur local machine to your own server cluster. 1 Gyga is way massive already, where then hell do you think you can download 1000GB per second from?.... if u want fast internet you need your ping to be super low eg below 3 millseconds... having even a trillion GBN internet doesnt make u have faster internet. not sure why u got 10Gygainternet for... unless u have 100 computers all simultaneously connected to the internet in ur place. all going through one single line.
The motherboard itself doesn't have any RGB lighting, so you can't change anything. You can absolutely still use the software to control any Corsair products, you just won't be able to change any RGB on the motherboard, as their are none.
@@JohnLCharette it's a solid state drive (SSD). Hard (disk) drives (HDD) have a spinning disk inside. It's older technology and no HDD with an Nvme interfaces are being made
Interesting. When looking at SSDs these days, a lot of them still mention NVMe in their title. Example: www.crucial.com/products/ssd/crucial-t700-ssd "Feel the rush of extreme performance with the Crucial T700 Gen5 NVMe® SSD."
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If you have a NAS, that have 10GbE, you for sure want to go with the X670E instead! - I have gone even further, going 2x10GbE SFP+ instead, one for my own PC, and one for my "server" WOW so happy to transfer files between them with that awesome speed :) (No need for switch btw, just put in SFP+ cables from PC1 to PC2 and your up and running, just remember to use another range then your Ethernet to the WLAN)
About Wi-Fi, that is 100% NO GO here at my place. To insecure!
USB4 is SO GREAT! I use it for my external NVMe disk! I always need more and more space, and with USB4 that is no longer an issue).
Dr Pain, love the name ;) Yes! I completely agree. My current NAS (QNAP TS-451) only supports 2x 1gb NICs, which I'm using both but I would LOVE to upgrade my network to 10gb. I do like your idea of going directly from an SFP+ card in my system to one on the NAS while still keeping your 10gb NIC port available for everything else.
As for Wi-Fi, do you mean inconsistent vs insecure? I have an enterprise cyber security background and from what I know, WEP3 is pretty darn secure.
I'll have to try using USB4 for an external NVMe drive. You have some great points in your post, so I'm going to pin it. Thanks for the suggestions!
USB4 is based on the Thunderbolt protocol so it is compatible with Thunderbolt, one thing that can distinguish them is the cables because Thunderbolt 4 must reach 40Gbps and the minimum for USB 4 is 20Gbps, but if the manufacturer wants it, maybe 40Gbps
Asus Proart's previous AM4 B550 and X570 boards had Thunderbolt
I am surprised that the B650 has been deprived of USB4 and has only 10Gbps USB
@Daniel, thank you for clarifying this information! I'm going to pin this comment for others to see. I thought Thunderbolt was only available on Intel platforms. #learning
@@JohnLCharette Thunderbolt on AMD boards is a rarity with AM4, only Asus Proart B550 and X570, Gigabyte B550 VISION D and ASRock X570 PHANTOM GAMING-ITX and only Asus had thunderbolt 4 where the rest had 3
10GB ports are not for internet it's for transferring data to a NAS.
Absolutely correct. I hope I didn't give off that impression. Fastest fiber Internet I've seen is 3gb, no need for 10gb just yet. I could use it to transfer my video files to my NAS. I average 30-50gb of 4K footage per video I record. My NAS doesn't have 10gb support though either.. hah
@@JohnLCharette I know of some motherboards that have 20GB ethernet. Not sure of any NAS that has 20GB though.
20GB?! They'd probably have to have two 10GB ports, I imagine.. which you could use port aggregation to add them up to 20GB.
I currently have my NAS in the basement, near my router, but if I really wanted to use it for video editing.. I'd buy one with Thunderbolt and SSD drives. Plug it directly into my PC versus sending traffic across the network.
@@JohnLCharette Probably. Network ports usually go 1/2.5/5/10/25/50/100/etc... gig, so if 20G is the link speed it's probably 2x 10G ports.
@@smashed_penguin It might be link aggregation, 2 x10gb sounds about right
You failed to mention that x670e has 4 X m.2 slots which supports RAID 0/1/10 which is kind of important to me having two arrays on my SSDs (one OS and one footage work drive) which is there just in case one of the SSDs fail which would leave me unproductive until a new SSD arrives and I get my backup restored.
Ohhh, that's a really good point! Thank you for sharing. I used to use on-board RAID (usually RAID 1) a lot before I got my 4-bay NAS (now using RAID 5). I'm going to pin this comment so others know this information.
@@JohnLCharette got another sas raid controller for footage/photo archive on 6 X SAS 2.3 gb drives in a raid 5 in my Fractal design 7 so my setup is almost the same albeit my drives are internal in my cabinet and shared on the network 😀
@yaruuvva Raid 1
Except the USB4 ports on the X670E are Thunderbolt compatible, and they use an Intel chipset.
Ohhh, that's really good to know. I was just reading through a thread on Reddit. Thank you. I'm going to pin this comment so people are aware. Much appreciated!
I'm pretty deep into the Thunderbolt ecosystem, so I went with the X670E. Worth noting it has a big flaw: The port is not hot-pluggable. If you connect a hub, then those ports are, but don't expect to not turn off the computer before you plug a macbook or whatever into your hub instead. It'll crash.
Ohhh, that’s very interesting. I did not know that about it not being hot swappable. I haven’t used Thunderbolt much. Is it usually hot swappable?
thanks for the clear comparison, just saved me a lot of time!
No problem! Glad I could help. Which motherboard are you leaning toward?
Nice. I was waiting for this review.
I just picked up a 7950x3d and a msi mpg x670e carbon wifi and am really happy. Youre right its more expensive than the b650 equivalents but cda computer had the msi on sale for 598 and felt i could justify the price difference.
Very nice board! I'll probably try an X670E motherboard on my next AM5 build. Depending how things go with this Asus drama, I may try out an MSI board. I have been team Asus for years. Any reason you chose MSI over Asus?
@John Charette I had trust issues with asus and the choices they made on the boards with pcie bandwidth sharing on expansion slots was a no go. (X670e-e in particular). I actually started with a x670e aorus master from gigabyte but it died in 2 days so decided to give msi a try. (CC was great honoring their return policy btw they just checked the board to confirm it was dead and I was on my way). A lot of the reviewers are saying the msi mpg carbon x670e is one of the best bang for buck boards without any odd bandwidth sharing and great pcie expansion slot location. The only downside of the msi is it doesn't have usb4 or tb built in which I didn't particularly care about.
Hope that answers your question.
That's great to hear about Canada Computers honoring the return. Lovely to hear from another Canadian 🇨🇦 Thanks for watching!
USB4 is basically Thunderbolt 3 with an different Name and some additional Features = If you have an TB3 capable Laptop it should work with USB4 at high speed .
To my NAS i have a direct 40 Gbit SFP+ connection , you can get used 40 Gbit Server cards for 30-50 Dollar each . The biggest advantage of RDNA4 Cards will be that they will be PCIe5.0 , you dont need 16 Lanes PCIe5.0 for the GPU = 8 Lanes are enough and you can use the other 8 Lanes for other stuff like high speed NICs
This is great information. Considering AMD released their new CPUs yesterday, I'm sure we'll hear something about GPUs soon enough!
I don't use PC wifi as my entire building/office is wired for 5GB ethernet as well as network printer connections. For security/ComSec reasons I dont use Wifi. I also have a Me Built NAS on site so that 5GB is going to outperform the 1 or 2.5. Right now the 5 is doing me good so I'll leave it alone right now. I haven't looked at the schematic of these two boards but usually the X boards have a better chipset and your 2nd M.2 slot isn't halfed down (and as long as your CPU has the threads to feed extra PCI lanes) and tend to run better if you lean on that 2nd and 3rd M.2 slot.
You're absolutely right. The X670E motherboard is far superior in every way. My goal with this video was to show that you could use their lower-end board with a bit of creativity ;) I have since upgraded to using an Intel CPU and selected ProArt's higher-end Z790 motherboard with 10 GB, and I love it.
@@JohnLCharette Nice!
Hi John, thanks a lot for your great review! I couldn't decide which mobo to get but since I pay for 10 GB fiber Internet at home.. I think the choice is obvious. It's funny because we gonna end up with the same PC : ) I also bought the North Case when it came out ! Great combo for sure !
That's awesome! I'm glad I could help. You'll love the Fractal North case. Have you decided on a GPU yet? Are you going to get a ProArt like this one I reviewed? ruclips.net/video/XVB718HgEHM/видео.html
You don't strictly need a 10GB port on the motherboard, you can get any board and a 10Gb networking card also, which would give you more options.
Absolutely that's an option. Do you recommend any particular 10gb NIC brand?
I built 3 computers in the last year and I don't want to build another one for a long while so I am getting this x670xe it'll probably take 7 years before devices are regularly saturating these connections, if ever.
That's a great reason to go with the higher end board. Good choice!
Thanks for this nicely presented video.
Thank you so much for watching and the lovely comment
upgrading to pro art board next week and I was considering adding a NAS within 6 months of my next build and along with future proofing, I was wondering if that was reason enough for 10 gig connectivity, or would 2.5 be enough for a single user environment... mainly NAS editing considerations for Sony fx3 footage. (unsure if current router supports 10gig, assuming probably not as of yet. jump off that bridge when i get to it)
If you can afford the X670E, it's a much better board and you'll future proof yourself with the 10gb. My network is still 1gb, so that's why I stayed with the B650. And yes, you'll need to upgrade ALL of your network to support 10gb, which isn't popular in consumer products yet. You will find routers/switches with 2.5gb ports though pretty easily. Totally your call. Let me know what you end up deciding and why. I'm very curious.
Shame that the B650 variant doesn't come with Wi-Fi out of the box. So we have to buy a separate Wi-Fi card
I agree! After using the B650 board for 6 months. I’d probably opt for the X670E version if I was going to keep the system for a long time.
I wanted to see an all pro art set up.. like with a pro art motherboard and a proart gpu 4000 series on a wooden fractal case 😅😂 I thought you're going to build it 😂😂
I'm working on it! I have that ProArt motherboard, a 7950X CPU, a Fractal North wooden case.. I'm just missing the ProArt 4070 Ti or 4080. They aren't available for purchase yet :( I have since picked up an Asus Strix 4070 Ti and 4090 that I'll use for that build. I keep refreshing all websites but no one has the ProArt GPUs in stock yet.
@@JohnLCharette awsome! yeah the proart GPU is hard to get and the version of the motherboard also is even harder B650 unit. But the good thing is it can handle the dimensions of the red devil 7900 XTX.. was looking at specs and i thought it wouldn't fit at all. hope to see you build it and looking forward to it. thank you for the videos! ☺
Great video, Sadly no post code on this motherboard, btw would you recommend Asrock taichi or Gigabyte Aorus x670e for 3d render and design for people who need USB4 and are scared of anything asus after those bios scandals and frying already expensivr components?
Thanks! I haven't used an ASRock board in years, but I did use a Gigabyte Aorus Master last year and it was beautiful. The main difference between those boards is that the ASRock supports USB4 natively, where as, I couldn't find any boards with USB4 yet. Have you found one?
I know Asus had their issue, but given everything they've gone through, I trust their products/BIOS' even more because they don't want another PR nightmare. I have a feeling they have tested their new boards/BIOS' more than most companies since.
@@JohnLCharette thanks, btw lots people like to bash asrock as cheap brand, but that Asrock x670e taichi seems to be quaility board, would you say Gigabyte has better build quality and components than Asrock ?
That's a bit of a loaded question - only because I think every manufacturer has their lower and higher end products. I can't speak first hand to the build quality of either, but try and at least compare two products of the same price range when you do your research.
Interestingly enough, I just got off a call with my technical Asus rep and he spent an hour helping me understand all of the differences that Asus goes up and above with their products. It was a really neat conversation.
For me the difference is most of my work is 3d and a smaller amount of Motion graphics and editing. The B650 is hobbeled by not being able to stick in a second gpu at x8 but it looks like there are not dual x8 gen 4 pcie motherboards only gen 5. I also have 10gig into my NAS but I only use my NAS for backup. With Asus's recent issues I am looking at the MSI carbon as 10 gig card can just be added. for a Cheaper option MSI's tomahawk x670e is also attractive but again with only 2 graphics slot.
Yeah, Asus is taking it pretty hard right now. I would also consider an MSI board for my next build. That's good to know about 10gb on the carbon line. Did you NAS come with 10gb or did you install an add-in card? I have a QNAP TS-451 and it doesn't have a PCI slot for expandability. It only comes with 2x1gb ports, which I've aggregated.
@@JohnLCharette I got a tvs-473 loaded with max ram and 16 gig drives from a doctors office used for $900 US the add in card was like $100. The question I have as all early adopters do is, are pci5 and Nvme gen5 going to pan out before the platform is over? I have a feeling the next graphic series will be still gen 4 pcie and the gen5 drives while sequentially fast are not much of a random read write improvement and that is where the improvements for me of an ssd are felt.
Beautiful NAS. Mine acts up on me every month or so where one drive will simply disconnect. Rebooting the device finds the drive again and rebuilds the array. It's weird.
As for PCIe5 and NVMe 5? Who knows. That's why, at this moment in time, I opt'd for the cheaper motherboard. Maybe in a couple of years, but as you say.. when the next gen CPUs come up, will these chipsets even matter.
Not sure where you got this from, even ASUS’ official website says you can use two GPUs on the B650, and it has the PCIe support for it if you look at the specs.
You can use two GPUs on PCIe 4.0 x8/x8 on the B650, which is fast enough for any current gen GPU.
The biggest question for me: Is this MB good for gaming like other Asus X670-E MBs or it's not recommended?
Absolutely. I used it for six months with lots of gaming. The differences are mainly the features (10gb network, built in wifi and more power phases). So, if you're overclocking a lot, then you'll want to go with the X670-E.. but for every day use and gaming, the B650 is great.
@@JohnLCharette Thank you for the answer. I've seen some people were complaining about very slow boot on Windows OS, do you experience any issue like this with this MB?
YES! I forgot about that. It definitely took 20-30 seconds for the initial post. From what I read, it's related to the DDR5 RAM and doing a memory check. I think it's something you can skip, in the BIOS settings. I never turn off my computer, so it didn't really bother me. I also have no idea if the X670-E does the same or not.
For Wifi just use a USB dongle- you can be sure to be disconnected from the network very easily!
Hahah yeah, they aren’t the best.
meh, I'd rather get the B550 that's not only cheaper, but has the two thunderbolt 4 ports.. that and a 5800x3d and you're set . Don't know why you'd want to swap platforms, get ddr5 ram, and all that
This might be a little too old, but I have a quick question since I recently bought a B650 creatorboard. Will a m.2 gen 3X4 (Ediloca EN600 PRO SSD 256GB PCle 3.0x4, NVMe M.2 2280) be detected by the motherboard as my storage or is this specifically Gen 4 and above? The reason I'm asking is that it didn't detect my spare 256 gb m.2 sata ssd and I have to buy a new storage. Appreciate it thanks :)
Yes, it absolutely should work. M.2 slots are backwards compatible. If you put a Gen3 SSD into a Gen4 slot, it will be limited to Gen3 speeds, but work fine. Similarly, if you put a Gen4 SSD into a Gen3 slot, it will be limited to Gen3 speeds, but works.
@@JohnLCharette Yeah I can confirm that the gen 3 does work, but the m.2 sata ssd doesn't and it didn't matter what settings I had in the bios, it did not detect it at all, but my other motherboard (am4) did
That's really weird. Did it work in any of the other m.2 slots? I wonder if that slot is broken.
@@JohnLCharette Yeah I tried all m.2 slots and the m.2 nvme ssd works in every slot meanwhile the m.2 sata ssd doesnt in any slot. There might be a setting(s) I need to change to be able to detect the older and cheaper m.2 sata ssd
Yeah, I'm guessing it may not support them.. but I can't confirm. If you find out, please comment below so others know as well.
i buyed it but i dont see it has only one Audio connector. no toslink nothing. thats a BIG - ... i send it back. cannot use my logitech z906 on this. i pay 60€ more for ROG Crosshair Hero Board. this has all what i need.
Ahh, good to know about the single audio connector. I’m glad you found a board that works.
@@JohnLCharette you can make 5.1 with this board. The owner manual says. 3 wires. Grey to front speakers, black to mid/sub and front connector pink to rear speaker. Totally weird
Hi Bro,
I am looking to buy/build a good budget-friendly PC
My current budget amount is- 600-700$
Can you please suggest which build would be better? I am confused about Intel or Ryzen.
I am also looking for the latest motherboard & components that would support future upgrades for RAM, etc., and if I can install a good GPU on this same budget, that would be great.
Please suggest some configurations for both Intel & AMD. It's a request and please reply.
PC would be used for gaming & work
Thanks & Regards
Hey bro. My buddy Scotty would be happy to help you. Check him out @sdicomputers on Instagram.
Hai sir. Can ASUS ProArt B650-CREATOR for gaming?
Yes! Absolutely. I used it for a few months playing many games. No issues there.
@4:00 it does if you’re going to make a small render farm pc and you’re putting in two pcie 4.0 gpus in the 5.0 pcie slots running them both at 8x because pcie5 8x = pcie4 16x.
Aha! Yes, that's a very good use case for it helping out. Thanks for commenting.
That’s not how it works, putting a PCIe 4.0 GPU into a PCIe 5.0 slot will not magically make it run 5.0, it will run 4.0.
In other words, if you out a 4.0 GPU into a 5.0 x8 slot, it will run 4.0 at x8. The number of lanes doesn’t change.
How much MHZ DDR5 Does the x670e Allow? I cant find informations :(
4 x DIMM, Max. 128GB, DDR5 6400+(OC)/ 6200(OC)/ 6000(OC)/ 5800(OC)/ 5600(OC)/ 5400(OC)/ 5200/ 5000/ 4800 ECC & Non-ECC, Un-buffered Memory* according to their website here: www.asus.com/ca-en/motherboards-components/motherboards/proart/proart-x670e-creator-wifi/techspec/
dude you dont use 10 gbit ports for internet you use it to connect computers in s called daisy chain...eg for distributed rendering
You are absolutely correct. I just re-watched my video and I don't think I mentioned 10gb for Internet. Did I miss speak and say Internet? That being said, you can get 3gb Internet where live, which by using 2.5gb, you wouldn't get full speeds. But I agree, in most cases, it's for data transfer to a NAS or server.
Well I have a 10Gb internet connection here so don't know why it shouldn't be used for that matter
@@levraichris3321 you can plug it, but your pc will never ever be able to use al that bandwidth because there is nothing in the world u can download at 10000GB per second
the purpose of the 10gbit ethernet plug on a motherboard is to daisy chain with other machines so u can run multiple nodes eg for rendering, or connect ur local machine to your own server cluster.
1 Gyga is way massive already, where then hell do you think you can download 1000GB per second from?.... if u want fast internet you need your ping to be super low eg below 3 millseconds... having even a trillion GBN internet doesnt make u have faster internet.
not sure why u got 10Gygainternet for... unless u have 100 computers all simultaneously connected to the internet in ur place. all going through one single line.
Is does support corsair icue link?
The motherboard itself doesn't have any RGB lighting, so you can't change anything. You can absolutely still use the software to control any Corsair products, you just won't be able to change any RGB on the motherboard, as their are none.
Where does one get an nvme hard drive? 😅
www.kingston.com/en/ssd/what-is-nvme-ssd-technology
@@JohnLCharette it's a solid state drive (SSD). Hard (disk) drives (HDD) have a spinning disk inside. It's older technology and no HDD with an Nvme interfaces are being made
Interesting. When looking at SSDs these days, a lot of them still mention NVMe in their title. Example: www.crucial.com/products/ssd/crucial-t700-ssd "Feel the rush of extreme performance with the Crucial T700 Gen5 NVMe® SSD."
Or, are you just trolling because I call both SSD and HDD hard drives because I'm old school?
@@JohnLCharette Sorry, trolling was not the intention. HDD's are HDD's, they're not SSD's
is this a joke..?
The X670E is obviously the better board, but given my needs, I picked the B650. What's your concern?
ProArt looks so ugly!!!
I think they are very elegant and sexy.