Building A Hot New System With The ASUS ProArt X670E-Creator WiFi
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Ah yes, a "high-end" mobo lacking seven segment display.
This is a plague
I will not buy a board that costs more than $150USD without one. I am done with this nonsense. I know how much the piece of hardware costs, $2 retail so I know ASUS could get them in bulk for way less.
And a decent warranty service.
I get why that's handy, but, in reality, good debug LEDs and patterns work just fine
@@jttech44 That's like saying "I get why Debug LEDs are handy, but, in reality, good oscilloscopes and troubleshooting work just fine. I'll take a specific POST Code over "Something went wrong." any flipping day of the week. I'm sorry, but if you engineer a motherboard with multiple RGB headers and don't include a 7-segment display you're dead to me.
Hey... I have this board, with a 7950X and a 7900XTX with 64GB of 6000Mhz, CL30 RAM, and running Ubuntu 24.04. Stable as heck. Runs awesomely.
I have this board that I bought back in the day for the same price as some medium tier B650e, because of a flash sale. It's an awesome board and very good for VFIO. I run a 6800XT passthrough without any issues. My only downside is the lack of debug display on the board, but I can live with it.
i just borked a 7950x+x670e hero with 4x32gb ddr5 somehow - was testing stability at 4400mt/s, which went fine, then i moved on to 4600mt/s and it stopped being able to train the memory, showing q-code 15 on the debug display for hours even after cmos resetting, bios flashbacks and parts reseating; eventually it managed to post with only one stick at the b2 slot at normal speeds, then died in the same way after a few days... was considering this board as a replacement but no q-code would be an even greater nightmare if something similar was to happen again, asus should really provide this on hardware in this category and price tag
Is why I disnt move to ddr5. We both got 13900k and z790 rigs. We returned both rigs for a refund. Went back to 5950x and 32 gig bdie. Not a single issue. So.....waiting for something better.
I have a 2x48gb kit. Since it's a dual rank, I tried once raising the memory speed but encountered instability, so I only tightened a bit the timings with 6000mhz. Since I mainly use it for productivity work, I wouldn't see benefit in doing, even in games the gains would be pretty minor in my opinion. Maybe in the future if I upgrade the 7950x CPU to Zen 5 or 6, they probably having a better memory controller, I'll try it again
@@realiesOne That sucks, I preferred the 2x48gb kit instead of using 4 because I saw a lot of reviewers saying to don't use 4 sticks of memory with ddr5, now I understand why
i was just very unlucky, not seen a single similar report for am5, instead, i was following guides from people who managed to do 4x32 and 4x48 at 6000 and beyond...
I love this board, it was the first AM5 platform I got and it was pretty much perfect for VFIO passing through a GPU and a USB controller to make a Windows guest for those few (Solidworks) things that just won’t run on Linux, with easy plug and play for flash drives and Bluetooth.
Especially nice is that a DP-HDMI cable plugged into rhe USB-C connectors will let my TV do 4k120Hz on the iGPU without dropping to chroma 4:2:2 like the HDMI port does. It doesn’t sound like much, but getting 4k120Hz iGPU is very nice for single dGPU passthrough. The host can use the GPU unhindered when the VM is off, and you can turn the VM on without a reboot, or even needing to log out of your DE. Perfect for LookingGlass.
Never going back to asus. Their anti-consumer policies and the way they handle their customer service is atrocious. You can keep kissing their butt if you want to, but many of us will never go back there.
I’m worried about ASUS removing the mentioning of ECC memory support from the specifications page, it was definitely there in the past. Hope that some middle management suit at AMD isn’t planning to cut away ECC from regular CPUs similar to their non-PRO APUs.
I can watch you build pc's all day, keep em coming sir!
Next video see this in action on the Level1Linux channel?
I bought this Mobo for my truenas build. Overkill but loving the feature set.
I would humbly suggest the Asrock X670E PG Lightning as a lower cost alternative. It has a Thunderbolt 4 AIC option and the main board headers for this as well as some other PCIe slots! 😲
Frankly I was bullied into buying a ProArt board for the 8x/8x pcie split since that's so non-standard now.
I'm happy with what I got tho. That power delivery port on the front USB is the most convenient thing in my life.
I've had this board since release paired with a 7900X + 64GB RAM + 6750XT Nitro+, on the whole I have zero complaints, it has been a rock solid mobo for me.
The thing I have benefitted most from surprisingly is all the USB4 and USB-C connectivity, with the PD/QC4+ support on the USB3.2g2/USB-C header for the front USB-C port and the three dual-port USB2.0 headers its a great all rounder when it comes to USB support, I can fast charge my phone and plug in a USB-C NVME caddy [via USB4 extension cable from rear ports] and max out the transfer speeds of the drive inside it.
My one gripe about this board is the onboard WiFi6E which is a needless addition imo, ASUS should have offered a non-WiFi version of this board [which would have shaved off some cost & possibly supported additional SATA ports instead] as the board comes with Intel 2.5GbE & Marvel AQtion 10GbE most people buying this board aint gonna be using half-duplex inferior WiFi over the full-duplex wired ethernet options available, I have mine sitting on a 10GbE LAN with other 10GbE enabled PCs/NAS and there's no way I'd go back to using slower ethernet.
Big fan of Gigabyte Aero and Asus Creator boards in recent generations for including all the bells and whistles. Thunderbolt, 10g RJ45, DP in, great aesthetics, etc
Pricey but you really can’t ask for me on the desktop platforms
I got one, for the 10gbe and thunderbolt 4, got an 7800X3D on it.
My monitor is connected with usb-c from my 7900xtx.
The PCI-E connector next to the 24 pins is for the USB-C 65w
Yeah which I dun have a extra 8pin cable to connect to it so no 65W charging for me.. which is fine as I dun really use PC for charging.
I’ve been looking at this board for some time for the multiple M.2 options that let your GPU cache things on unused lanes while you’re working. Probably gonna get it now with the Wendell endorsement
As I recall, that feature from Asus regarding DP in-USBc out (pseudo Thunderbolt) was integrated in the Asus Prime X299 Edition30 that you reviewed some years ago. In fact that video prompted me to find/search and buy the Edition30, and I’m so impressed with the stability and features of that board still rocking my 10980xe. Great video as usually.
One more thing to mention about the B650 version of the board is that the x16 slots in it are PCIe 4.0. While the X670E has two PCIe 5.0 slots.
I got a awesome deal on this board and a 7950x when it launched. This board hit every one of my boxes especially aesthetics. I love it.
While i dont work with high end tech as this , His enthusiasm in doing so makes me happy in a way . I live m dreams thrue these vids ina way
Yeah, this is the board I would want for my next build. Or whatever comes after it.
Have run both the Z690 and Z790 versions of this board, with i9 K’s and dual nvidia quadro GPUs. Easy to config, fast and stable (even with 4 sticks DDR5 once I figured out the right stick arrangement for unmatched pairs) under both Win and Linux. And love the design aesthetics of ProArt. Really rate it. Interesting review on AM5 version, thnx
I think it is the least expensive board with 10gb for linux
The Pro B650M-CT-CSM from asus was the single b650 that supports x16 and a x4 from the cpu slots avaible for ML is a beast for the price
My experience with the ProArt B650 version of this board has also been pretty good with VFIO.
Thank you ❤
Just bought an Asus Pro WS W680-Ace for a 12900k proxmox server. seems to work well with linux so far besides one MFD error I keep getting, which I haven't figured out the issue for yet. Wish I knew about the pro creator series having linux support, otherwise I would've bought one of those instead.
Not on Linux but thing has been rock solid with Win 10 LTSC IoT Enterprise. I needed TB for my Studio Display
i build a couple of systems with this board for my company. And it love it. Only thing would be to get on PCIe5 M.2 Port from the CPU as a connector. I would love to use other SSDs with a cable. And get rid of RGB and onboard Sound 🙂
hope we get to see the next set of boards soon
I bought this board when AM5 first came out and it is absolutely excellent. It had more features than the ROG boards for way less!
No solid side panel kind of kills that case for me. Id rather a sound dampened solid side panel any day. And it's unfortunate how bad Asus support can be, I ended up going with the gigabyte aero board even though the asus is better specced. When everything works that does look like a pretty nice setup though.
The 6 pin extra power connector is for the onboard USB-C charging
As cool as that case is, I would love to see that board in a rackmount workstation build
I'm thinking about upgrading to AMD 9000 series. Tempted to get this mobo because I'm a hedonist, but I do use Ubuntu as my daily on my workstation. That case is gorgeous, and the power button lock has me whipping out my wallet!
Oh, whoa Nocuas on an AIO?? And that's actually a fantastic case
x8 x4 x4 is great when you want to have asitload of nvmes. AM5 had a real drought of such boards in comparison to am4
i would instantly buy that case if it had a solid side-panel option
It‘s also the board to get to connect up to 9 NVMe SSDs to without active PCIe switches :)
This mobo is kind of cool because it has the DP in port, which means you could have this sitting in a closet with a single usb-c optical cable running to a dock. Expensive, yes. Cool , yes. The only bad thing about this board is the long memory training times , so it can take a while to boot, but that seems like an AM5 problem in general.
Huh. I'm wondering if this means that Asus Threadripper boards are more compatible with Linux? I'm looking at building a lower end Threadripper TrueNAS Scale system this fall. Lower end as I don't need a bagillion cores. I'm more interested in the PCI Lanes as I'm going to have a butt ton of storage + multiple HBA controllers for internal and external storage + GPU transcoding. Anyways I'm trying to from the most compatible TR boards. I haven't found a whole heck of a lot of info on Asus's Sage TR board when it comes to if it plays well with *nix.
Does that display port in also work for cameras? Seems like a missed opportunity if it doesn’t.
I have this motherboard with a 7950x and 128GB of ram but im still using the first bios version. I had a lot of issues eventually getting 4800cl30 stable (documented on the level1 forum). Any of the newer bios versions i couldnt get more stable than 0405 or whatever the original bios was.
I have the full ProArt 'stack' build (PA602 case, X670E-Creator mb, LC420 AIO, RTX 4080Super OC) with a 7950x3d and 192GB of Corsair Vengeance DDR5 running at 5200cl38 using the 1905 BIOS (2024/02/07). It's on the support listed, part number for the kit is CMK192GX5M4B5200C38.
@FormalPluto I saw 48GB ddr5 dimms were much better than 32GB so I'm not surprised but I will try again to go for a newer bios because it has some mitigation for cpus cooking themselves with whatever that limit of 1.2 vsoc did
10:05 OMG, Wendell dwarfed by a computer!
Nice board but at this point might be worth waiting a few months to see if new AM5 boards come out? I know the 600 series will support the new processors, just might be annoying to spend £450 odd and then find there’s a ‘shiny’ new x770e or similar by end of summer
definitely want to wait, since there will be a huge AM5 motherboard refresh to coincide with the release of Zen 5
@@Dr_b_ indeed, and to be honest I’ve been really disappointed with the overall design and aesthetics of so many AM5 boards. I own an X670E Hero and I’ve never been fully happy with it. I don’t understand why but Intel versions of the same board often look better and have more features (wtf ASUS). Hoping the next range of boards will look better.
And it's an ASUS board. You know, the company which fixed BIOS issues they created by releasing a beta BIOS which would void your warranty if you installed it.
@@BrunodeSouzaLino I don’t have a problem with ASUS. That whole thing was hugely overblown. Similar text had appeared alongside beta BIOS releases for years, it was probably a copy and paste job. It was right that they removed it eventually.
How’s Gigabyte nowadays? Still pretty happy with my X570 system but I’ll probably upgrade within 1-2 generations, if I remember correctly Gigabyte was one of the better ones for X570, still true with the newer platforms?
Is this the board I should grab for my 9950x, or should I wait for a new chipset for reasons?
How's the 10G Ethernet port working for you? I've built both this and the z690 version and both had trouble holding a 10G link with my switch. :(
case looks like premium redesign of Fractal Design Torrent :))
Something was said about the Pro-Art Mobo being one of the three most compatible boards for Linux systems. What are the other two Mobos?
Now considering swapping out my X670E Taichi for this hmmm.
Just managed to snag this for $200 open box. Only thing is, I didn't plan on actually finishing my new build until late this year so I've got no parts to use in it. Deal was too good to pass up.
Is there any way for me to test if this board actually works or is the risk too great and I should just return it? I can't really afford to do a full pc build up front rn.
i was contemplating getting this board, but since it has no SPIDIF output (which i use for my hifi, to not have humming) i had to go a different route
Please test regular pleb things like sleep compatibility under Linux with this board! It is still an overlooked issue that a lot of systems don't implement sleep under Linux properly.
the thing that bugs me on my x670e-creator is that pre-boot thunderbolt is only working for the network interface not for any USB device - so i can do ipxe but can't use a keyboard to configure the thng
I have seen reports that the 10GbE does not actually reach the rated speed. Could you test that?
Does anyone know if the 10gb onboard NIC support SR-IOV?
Is it currently possible to use voice commands from the main computer to open subsystems with different functions like in Star Trek?
Interesting that Asus actually has that feature in my 2020 Asus X299 Prime Edition30 with Smart Control Console and Armoury Crate software. Has Sleep, Wake and voice activated Hot Keys for any app/program of your choosing. Plus it is voice recognition activated, only recognizing the administrators voice. Also has infrared facial recognition. At the time it was only available on the Edition30 motherboard. Haven’t seen it marketed on any subsequent boards since. Cheers.
@@julianfiacconi709 You bad guy wants to trick me into installing ASUS Armory Crate, I won’t fall for it.
I feel like it would be cheaper to add 10GbE to a B650 board and not loose much functionality.
amazon link is dead.
Your Amazon link doesn't currently work for me.
No optical audio out on a board this expensive?
You can afford an adapter the apple way 😎
thats my only problem with it, just disabled the on board and got a creative card with optical
Getting external dac amps is the way to go
@@get2choppa429 well, yeah. That's why I want an optical audio output but it seems that very few mb include it nowadays.
As someone who works in the audio industry, optical for consumers is obsolete since modern formats like Atmos are too large for Toslink. HDMI is used for audio pass through these days
Amazon link is broken
Can you test the stability of the 10gbit port? I heard it is unstable and the chip heats up quite a bit.
News to me. I know Intel 2.5Gbps NICs and iNICs have had all sorts of reliability problems, though.
I’ve been using it since release and haven’t had any issues on Linux. I did need to reboot windows a few times due to the network dying, but that’s an issue I’ve had with other NICs too so it might just be windows.
even on the latest bios i still have issues with corsair 96GB 5600MHz CL40 kit, takes like 100 seconds to boot, really annoying
You need to enable the 2 Memory Context Restore options in the BIOS.
Damn, they really hit RUclips hard with having every big tech channel do this build at the same time
Really? For us it's legit totally random
And where are all the boards with onboard 10/50/100g sfp+/qsfp+?
not in the consumer section.
@@LackofFaithify as networks move more and more to fiber (it seems Enterprise has completely given up on rj45 copper, and I think that's starting to make sense) I expect that we'll all end up going that route. Fiber has roughly the same cost as copper while allowing you to use ever faster connection methods with the same glass, and it's Waaaaaay more energy efficient than 10g base t. I'm currently running a 24 port 10g base t switch that knocks back well over 100w and gets hit and loud (I swapped out the fans to make it quieter and temps are in spec but that's not something most are willing to do). There are already many cheap 1g switches with 10g sfp+ uplink for the crossover times. And sfp+ switches are now actually pretty cheap.
@@joshhardin666 What? Really? Yeah, no shit. There are no normies that are buying switches with 10g be it fiber or rj45. Most don't have anything beyond what their ISP puts in their house. Normies use wifi. So the answer to your question is the same, where are those faster connections? Not on anything consumer. People even somewhat involved in the tech world vastly overestimate their population size vs that of the people that still see computers as magic boxes. No one is going to cater to the home lab population as there are not enough of them.
So annoyed this case came out RIGHT after I put together my pro-art build!
Why not review the newer z790 proArt instead of this older one?
Z790 is Intel. This is amd. Intel not great for iommu passthrough
So that video in is like a Toaster?
Went with B650 for pcie bifurcation. Missed the DP passthrough feature. So I couldn't use my headless GPU with iGPU.
You probably can. Turn on Hybrid Graphics in BIOS and you should be able to use it like laptops, with the iGPU driving the display and the dGPU spinning up for those things that require it.
@@CycahhaCepreebha Not the case sadly. That was my intention, but the iGPU has no outputs on this MOBO.
@@kopasz777 Are you sure about that? It should have DP on both USB-C ports, and an HDMI out. If you don’t connect your dGPU to the DP in, the USB-C ports will output from the iGPU.
@@CycahhaCepreebha The type-C DP is only passthrough. I even got bought special cables and it didn't work. I was also wrong though, I forgot it has a single hdmi port, I used that for a short while before switching to an x670 prime. Using both monitors was more important for me.
Hi Steve!!! Saw your video with the z790 livemixer, I had to have it. Currently using it with a 13500 and a 6700xt from xfx. The performance is crazy and runs cool. Thanks for the tip.
I saw the the Proart board but it's ugly compared to the livemixer.
Steve? 🙃
But the ProArt is way prettier than the LiveMixer.
If you don't peel the plastic on that pro art motherboard after a month or 2 they won't come off cleanly and they will start to bond with the plastic they are supposed to be protecting.
Cool bananas
Power lock = ordering case while watching the rest of the video
Near silent, so running without PBO or?
Asking because my motherboard out of the box was set to just boost until thermal, was annoying as h...
If you're on AM5, its the CPUs that are designed at stock to boost up to the limit of your cooler. The simplest way to negate noise is setup the fan curves in the UEFI. I tend to set the max RPM to 70-85%.
He’s using a large liquid cooler. It will take some time for that water to heat up, and even then thanks to the large surface area and three large fans, not that high RPM is required to dissipate the heat.
It might not be perfectly silent the way a thick custom loop can be, but it’ll probably be a lot quieter than with an air cooler, thanks to the water taking time to heat up. What you notice more than fan noise itself, is fan noise coming and going. Water cooling doesn’t do that (as long as the fan speed is controlled by the water temperature, this motherboard has a thermistor header which makes this easy to set up).
@@blkspade23 Yeah, first thing i did when i got the system running was to set fan curves in the UEFI, what i'm pondering about is that Wendell makes it sound like it was silent out of the box.
@@CycahhaCepreebha It's not so much all that i meant, i was thinking more in the lines of the CPU actively trying to boost until it hits 90c or something thus having the cooler making noise.
Wendell in my mind makes it sound like it's just silent out of the box like it doesn't boost like that or maybe theres a trick i missed because it took some tinkering (even with the 420mm cooler i use) to actually make it silent.
Could of cause also just be that we have different definitions of silence and/or i just want silence at full load as well. it's absolutely not anything against Wendell in case anyone thinks that. :)
I have this board. I THINK it's been giving me hell since November. I've had to clear CMOS once every ten days. Unsure what the real problem is, but everyone seems to think it's my mobo. Anyone have thoughts?
Try a new cr2032 cos battery
WWhats the case ??
12:34 - Ubuntu is pronounced OO BOON TOO.. BOON not BUN
Cat proof power button? Ok, Asus can now take all the money.
Got this one since day1, IMHO the only AM5 motherboard worth its price, along with AsRock X670E Taichi. The rest is some goddamn joke... Still, the lack of 7-segment display at this price range and marketing it as some gaming feature is abhorrent from ASUS.
5:13 has three 12V connectors and that board will only supply 60watts not 75watts if that extra 6 pin is connected. Screams poorly designed board to me TBH, not a feature.
Great video and motherboard but... WiFI! Who is using such a mobo with WiFi. The WiFi component should be separate like it used to be. WiFi... "Awe Come on!" in my GOB voice.
You can do cool things with Wifi, such as using the 6 GHz band to do wireless VR with the Meta Quest, or setting up a relay point for an internet connection to allow your devices to connect to your PC’s internet.
If only high end desktop still existed. It's just consumer desktop, overpriced consumer desktop and then (overpriced to be considered HEDT) light workstation. I don't think $1500 is unreasonable to get 64GB of memory, a 12 or 16 core CPU and 48 lane quad channel board. It is unreasonable for consumer socket tho and that's what we have today. Yet everyone cheers it on and tells me that I should have to overpay because they don't need the PCIE lanes even though the consumer socket is already so expensive that they're already freaking paying like they're getting them too.
10GB without sriov support? It is useless for vfio build. Just get the proart b650 version instead.
I don't know why I didn't notice this before, but, Wendell, you have very thick and luxurious hair. 😅. Just joking around but, awesome video
I like my Thermaltake V71 tower better
Dang, people still have money for that stuff, i thought the 1 % stole everything. Whats it called? The great taking.......
Oh no, man Asus motherboards sucks especially for AM5. Good luck and be honest with us and share the issues please. Instability is the worst I have ever seen on Asus X670E and 7900X3D. And I have had hundreds of systems since Sinclair with OS on a cassette tape back in the 80s
I don't know. What if I get this board, it has issues and the only way to solve those is by installing a BIOS version which voids my warranty?
No Wifi 7 ! Snif...
This was released before Wifi 7 was even a thing, but it would be nice if they rereleased this board with Wifi 7, or (I really hope) an M.2 E-key slot that allows us to add our own Wifi cards instead of relying on the soldered ones.
Only four sata ports for a "Pro" motherboard is unacceptable. My ZFS array uses 8 disks
Use one of the M.2 slots for an 8x SATA card then.
I think most people who want large ZFS pools with this board would prefer to plug in their own SAS controller card and using NAS or refurb enterprise drives over using the onboard SATA controller.
God I know he is right, but jesus 5 different boards from asus and they have all been trash
10gb lan, 2.5gb lan and wifi... what a stupid setup
Asus customer support is garbage which makes Asus garbage, You should pick another vendor to show off new tech.
I returned a motherboard for them in 2004 or so... was returned a broken refurbed of the same model, not mine. Psh.
I don't know about their support because I haven't had to contact them but I have been using their monitors for 15 years with no issues.
I have no experience with their mobos though.
bad take
I'm fairness all of them are pretty bad
@@chiyapet I wouldn't call it a bad take considering ASUS is the same company which would clock Intel CPUs higher in the BIOS on purpose to claim more performance then when they were caught out doing that, they "solved" the issue by releasing a beta BIOS which would void your warranty if you installed it. Now that's class act customer support.
Why are all the tech channels becoming infomercials for one product? It unwatchable past 3 minutes.
Minor gripe I have with this motherboard and the CREATOR aspect of it - That second PCIe Gen 5 slot. Helped someone diagnose an issue with their PC where OBS downscaling a 4K canvas to 1080p was hitching. System was a 5900X on a B450 Strix, with a GPU, and 2 capture cards in the PC. B450 is limited to PCIe Gen 3, so we removed the capture card that was splitting the lane allocation away from the primary slot. Running at Gen 3 x16 (same bandwidth as Gen 4 x8), and most of the hitching had been resolved, but not all of it. Built a new PC for this person, but had I chosen a board that shared bandwidth on the first 2 PCIe slots, we'd be back in the same boat with only Gen 4 x8 (because the GPU is limited to Gen 4 and you can't magically make PCIe 5 x8 PCIe 4 x16).
OBS kinda came in and fixed the issue as a whole by enabling GPU scaling. Moot point now, and I'd prefer the ProArt in this case/future cases, but it'd be nice to have both chipset and CPU options for x16 slots there in the middle.
So to prevent the PCIe slots from sharing bandwidth, you think they should hang a x16 or a x8 off the chipset with all the other peripherals and 10g, etc... that all share the x4 pipeline back to the cpu? Checks out.
The best designs will offer a vhipset based slot (like this board does) wherever capture card can linne
I was thinking of upgrading to this mobo for a while when I was thinking of building an AM5 build. Ended up shelving the upgrade for later down the road but still love this mobo.