I have this board that I bought back in the day for the same price as some medium tier B650e, because of a flash sale. It's an awesome board and very good for VFIO. I run a 6800XT passthrough without any issues. My only downside is the lack of debug display on the board, but I can live with it.
i just borked a 7950x+x670e hero with 4x32gb ddr5 somehow - was testing stability at 4400mt/s, which went fine, then i moved on to 4600mt/s and it stopped being able to train the memory, showing q-code 15 on the debug display for hours even after cmos resetting, bios flashbacks and parts reseating; eventually it managed to post with only one stick at the b2 slot at normal speeds, then died in the same way after a few days... was considering this board as a replacement but no q-code would be an even greater nightmare if something similar was to happen again, asus should really provide this on hardware in this category and price tag
Is why I disnt move to ddr5. We both got 13900k and z790 rigs. We returned both rigs for a refund. Went back to 5950x and 32 gig bdie. Not a single issue. So.....waiting for something better.
I have a 2x48gb kit. Since it's a dual rank, I tried once raising the memory speed but encountered instability, so I only tightened a bit the timings with 6000mhz. Since I mainly use it for productivity work, I wouldn't see benefit in doing, even in games the gains would be pretty minor in my opinion. Maybe in the future if I upgrade the 7950x CPU to Zen 5 or 6, they probably having a better memory controller, I'll try it again
@@realiesOne That sucks, I preferred the 2x48gb kit instead of using 4 because I saw a lot of reviewers saying to don't use 4 sticks of memory with ddr5, now I understand why
i was just very unlucky, not seen a single similar report for am5, instead, i was following guides from people who managed to do 4x32 and 4x48 at 6000 and beyond...
I love this board, it was the first AM5 platform I got and it was pretty much perfect for VFIO passing through a GPU and a USB controller to make a Windows guest for those few (Solidworks) things that just won’t run on Linux, with easy plug and play for flash drives and Bluetooth. Especially nice is that a DP-HDMI cable plugged into rhe USB-C connectors will let my TV do 4k120Hz on the iGPU without dropping to chroma 4:2:2 like the HDMI port does. It doesn’t sound like much, but getting 4k120Hz iGPU is very nice for single dGPU passthrough. The host can use the GPU unhindered when the VM is off, and you can turn the VM on without a reboot, or even needing to log out of your DE. Perfect for LookingGlass.
I got one, for the 10gbe and thunderbolt 4, got an 7800X3D on it. My monitor is connected with usb-c from my 7900xtx. The PCI-E connector next to the 24 pins is for the USB-C 65w
I've had this board since release paired with a 7900X + 64GB RAM + 6750XT Nitro+, on the whole I have zero complaints, it has been a rock solid mobo for me. The thing I have benefitted most from surprisingly is all the USB4 and USB-C connectivity, with the PD/QC4+ support on the USB3.2g2/USB-C header for the front USB-C port and the three dual-port USB2.0 headers its a great all rounder when it comes to USB support, I can fast charge my phone and plug in a USB-C NVME caddy [via USB4 extension cable from rear ports] and max out the transfer speeds of the drive inside it. My one gripe about this board is the onboard WiFi6E which is a needless addition imo, ASUS should have offered a non-WiFi version of this board [which would have shaved off some cost & possibly supported additional SATA ports instead] as the board comes with Intel 2.5GbE & Marvel AQtion 10GbE most people buying this board aint gonna be using half-duplex inferior WiFi over the full-duplex wired ethernet options available, I have mine sitting on a 10GbE LAN with other 10GbE enabled PCs/NAS and there's no way I'd go back to using slower ethernet.
Frankly I was bullied into buying a ProArt board for the 8x/8x pcie split since that's so non-standard now. I'm happy with what I got tho. That power delivery port on the front USB is the most convenient thing in my life.
Big fan of Gigabyte Aero and Asus Creator boards in recent generations for including all the bells and whistles. Thunderbolt, 10g RJ45, DP in, great aesthetics, etc Pricey but you really can’t ask for me on the desktop platforms
I will not buy a board that costs more than $150USD without one. I am done with this nonsense. I know how much the piece of hardware costs, $2 retail so I know ASUS could get them in bulk for way less.
@@jttech44 That's like saying "I get why Debug LEDs are handy, but, in reality, good oscilloscopes and troubleshooting work just fine. I'll take a specific POST Code over "Something went wrong." any flipping day of the week. I'm sorry, but if you engineer a motherboard with multiple RGB headers and don't include a 7-segment display you're dead to me.
I was thinking of upgrading to this mobo for a while when I was thinking of building an AM5 build. Ended up shelving the upgrade for later down the road but still love this mobo.
As I recall, that feature from Asus regarding DP in-USBc out (pseudo Thunderbolt) was integrated in the Asus Prime X299 Edition30 that you reviewed some years ago. In fact that video prompted me to find/search and buy the Edition30, and I’m so impressed with the stability and features of that board still rocking my 10980xe. Great video as usually.
I’ve been looking at this board for some time for the multiple M.2 options that let your GPU cache things on unused lanes while you’re working. Probably gonna get it now with the Wendell endorsement
I would humbly suggest the Asrock X670E PG Lightning as a lower cost alternative. It has a Thunderbolt 4 AIC option and the main board headers for this as well as some other PCIe slots! 😲
*Thanks for that great tip.* I'm considering this board but now that you mention it Asrocks additional PCIe slots at lower cost does sound inviting, though I'm just presuming at this point on face value alone that the two different boards mirror identical specs for the other I|O ports, *if so* I'll probably grab that Asrock for a Lian Li 011 Dynamic XL case I just got... *[ EDIT | Udate ] ::* Ah, have to pass on it after all.... I see that the Asrock X670E PG Lightning has niether bluetooth nor WIFI & has far fewer USB 3.2 Gen 2 ports. _It's still an okayyy value at its' price,_ yet I'll shell out for features it lacks. I think the Asrock X670E PG Lightning is aimed so much at gamers it stripped off things it feels most gamers rarely prefer or dont use at all, and I understand that. Fine. For that particular type of person, at nearly half the price of the ASUS board, yea sure go for the Asrock... but my expectations are more diverse than gaming-centric. In fact I rarely game, but I like the specs and i|o ports the ASUS has for the diversity of video editing rapid configs & connects it empowers one with. that's just my personal case. to each their own.
I’m worried about ASUS removing the mentioning of ECC memory support from the specifications page, it was definitely there in the past. Hope that some middle management suit at AMD isn’t planning to cut away ECC from regular CPUs similar to their non-PRO APUs.
Have run both the Z690 and Z790 versions of this board, with i9 K’s and dual nvidia quadro GPUs. Easy to config, fast and stable (even with 4 sticks DDR5 once I figured out the right stick arrangement for unmatched pairs) under both Win and Linux. And love the design aesthetics of ProArt. Really rate it. Interesting review on AM5 version, thnx
Any recommendations on 128gb ram configurations for this board? They say don’t use all 4 slots for stability purposes. I know that’s more of an am5 thing than a mobo thing but they have 4x32gb Kingston xmp enabled Intel kits listed as supported for this amd board are there even any 128gb kits with expo? (Tho some forums tell me don’t enable any overlocking on ram on am5 at this time either). Any insights would be greatly appreciated thank you
Just bought an Asus Pro WS W680-Ace for a 12900k proxmox server. seems to work well with linux so far besides one MFD error I keep getting, which I haven't figured out the issue for yet. Wish I knew about the pro creator series having linux support, otherwise I would've bought one of those instead.
No solid side panel kind of kills that case for me. Id rather a sound dampened solid side panel any day. And it's unfortunate how bad Asus support can be, I ended up going with the gigabyte aero board even though the asus is better specced. When everything works that does look like a pretty nice setup though.
This mobo is kind of cool because it has the DP in port, which means you could have this sitting in a closet with a single usb-c optical cable running to a dock. Expensive, yes. Cool , yes. The only bad thing about this board is the long memory training times , so it can take a while to boot, but that seems like an AM5 problem in general.
*I love this video !* And I'm getting this board. I was surprised though at near end of video hearing that if traditional 2.5 vs. 10GB-Ethernet is only needed then opt instead for a B650 board, which I personally disagree. If you take the time and actually look physically in a side-by-side direct comparison of the backplate i|o ports between this X760E and a B650-Plus it's NO CONTEST _IMHO_ . This X760E is far superior, for connectivity advantages, as per the significantly higher volume of ports, at top specs. Yes, you pay more, easily double, hands down no doubt about that, but keep in mind you do get more in return than only higher ethernet.
Nice board but at this point might be worth waiting a few months to see if new AM5 boards come out? I know the 600 series will support the new processors, just might be annoying to spend £450 odd and then find there’s a ‘shiny’ new x770e or similar by end of summer
@Dr_b_ indeed, and to be honest I’ve been really disappointed with the overall design and aesthetics of so many AM5 boards. I own an X670E Hero and I’ve never been fully happy with it. I don’t understand why but Intel versions of the same board often look better and have more features (wtf ASUS). Hoping the next range of boards will look better.
And it's an ASUS board. You know, the company which fixed BIOS issues they created by releasing a beta BIOS which would void your warranty if you installed it.
@@BrunodeSouzaLino I don’t have a problem with ASUS. That whole thing was hugely overblown. Similar text had appeared alongside beta BIOS releases for years, it was probably a copy and paste job. It was right that they removed it eventually.
i build a couple of systems with this board for my company. And it love it. Only thing would be to get on PCIe5 M.2 Port from the CPU as a connector. I would love to use other SSDs with a cable. And get rid of RGB and onboard Sound 🙂
I have this motherboard with a 7950x and 128GB of ram but im still using the first bios version. I had a lot of issues eventually getting 4800cl30 stable (documented on the level1 forum). Any of the newer bios versions i couldnt get more stable than 0405 or whatever the original bios was.
I have the full ProArt 'stack' build (PA602 case, X670E-Creator mb, LC420 AIO, RTX 4080Super OC) with a 7950x3d and 192GB of Corsair Vengeance DDR5 running at 5200cl38 using the 1905 BIOS (2024/02/07). It's on the support listed, part number for the kit is CMK192GX5M4B5200C38.
@FormalPluto I saw 48GB ddr5 dimms were much better than 32GB so I'm not surprised but I will try again to go for a newer bios because it has some mitigation for cpus cooking themselves with whatever that limit of 1.2 vsoc did
The website says that it supports ECC UDIMMS and lists a few in the QVL list. Side note about cases: I feel like this channel would love a Silverstone RM52
Please test regular pleb things like sleep compatibility under Linux with this board! It is still an overlooked issue that a lot of systems don't implement sleep under Linux properly.
As someone who works in the audio industry, optical for consumers is obsolete since modern formats like Atmos are too large for Toslink. HDMI is used for audio pass through these days
How’s Gigabyte nowadays? Still pretty happy with my X570 system but I’ll probably upgrade within 1-2 generations, if I remember correctly Gigabyte was one of the better ones for X570, still true with the newer platforms?
I’ve been using it since release and haven’t had any issues on Linux. I did need to reboot windows a few times due to the network dying, but that’s an issue I’ve had with other NICs too so it might just be windows.
Love seeing fantastic Linux support like this from manufacturers. Thanks Wendell for bringing this board and (sweet) case to our attention. What are the other motherboards you mentioned at the start of this video with full Linux support? @Level1Techs
Never going back to asus. Their anti-consumer policies and the way they handle their customer service is atrocious. You can keep kissing their butt if you want to, but many of us will never go back there.
@@LackofFaithify as networks move more and more to fiber (it seems Enterprise has completely given up on rj45 copper, and I think that's starting to make sense) I expect that we'll all end up going that route. Fiber has roughly the same cost as copper while allowing you to use ever faster connection methods with the same glass, and it's Waaaaaay more energy efficient than 10g base t. I'm currently running a 24 port 10g base t switch that knocks back well over 100w and gets hit and loud (I swapped out the fans to make it quieter and temps are in spec but that's not something most are willing to do). There are already many cheap 1g switches with 10g sfp+ uplink for the crossover times. And sfp+ switches are now actually pretty cheap.
@@joshhardin666 What? Really? Yeah, no shit. There are no normies that are buying switches with 10g be it fiber or rj45. Most don't have anything beyond what their ISP puts in their house. Normies use wifi. So the answer to your question is the same, where are those faster connections? Not on anything consumer. People even somewhat involved in the tech world vastly overestimate their population size vs that of the people that still see computers as magic boxes. No one is going to cater to the home lab population as there are not enough of them.
the thing that bugs me on my x670e-creator is that pre-boot thunderbolt is only working for the network interface not for any USB device - so i can do ipxe but can't use a keyboard to configure the thng
Just managed to snag this for $200 open box. Only thing is, I didn't plan on actually finishing my new build until late this year so I've got no parts to use in it. Deal was too good to pass up. Is there any way for me to test if this board actually works or is the risk too great and I should just return it? I can't really afford to do a full pc build up front rn.
If you don't peel the plastic on that pro art motherboard after a month or 2 they won't come off cleanly and they will start to bond with the plastic they are supposed to be protecting.
Huh. I'm wondering if this means that Asus Threadripper boards are more compatible with Linux? I'm looking at building a lower end Threadripper TrueNAS Scale system this fall. Lower end as I don't need a bagillion cores. I'm more interested in the PCI Lanes as I'm going to have a butt ton of storage + multiple HBA controllers for internal and external storage + GPU transcoding. Anyways I'm trying to from the most compatible TR boards. I haven't found a whole heck of a lot of info on Asus's Sage TR board when it comes to if it plays well with *nix.
Hello, I’m a fan of your channel. I have built ~10 CPUs over my lifetime. I still consider myself a novice when building a new PC. These PC systems typically last 5-7 years before I must upgrade due to needing enhanced or additional performance. I am a big AMD fan except for the AMD mobile CPUs. I am researching a new PC build. I need some help with CPU selection. I want to go with a AMD Ryzen™ Threadripper™ PRO 7975WX 32-Core, 64-Thread Processor which is at the very top of my budget. My wife is a creator and I also do some CAD work on PCs we share. I am a windows user and would like recommendation on new build. Can you provide some advice? I understand it is my responsibility to vet all parts before I purchase. Thanks,
Interesting that Asus actually has that feature in my 2020 Asus X299 Prime Edition30 with Smart Control Console and Armoury Crate software. Has Sleep, Wake and voice activated Hot Keys for any app/program of your choosing. Plus it is voice recognition activated, only recognizing the administrators voice. Also has infrared facial recognition. At the time it was only available on the Edition30 motherboard. Haven’t seen it marketed on any subsequent boards since. Cheers.
You probably can. Turn on Hybrid Graphics in BIOS and you should be able to use it like laptops, with the iGPU driving the display and the dGPU spinning up for those things that require it.
@@kopasz777 Are you sure about that? It should have DP on both USB-C ports, and an HDMI out. If you don’t connect your dGPU to the DP in, the USB-C ports will output from the iGPU.
@@СусаннаСергеевна The type-C DP is only passthrough. I even got bought special cables and it didn't work. I was also wrong though, I forgot it has a single hdmi port, I used that for a short while before switching to an x670 prime. Using both monitors was more important for me.
Hi Steve!!! Saw your video with the z790 livemixer, I had to have it. Currently using it with a 13500 and a 6700xt from xfx. The performance is crazy and runs cool. Thanks for the tip. I saw the the Proart board but it's ugly compared to the livemixer.
I have this board. I THINK it's been giving me hell since November. I've had to clear CMOS once every ten days. Unsure what the real problem is, but everyone seems to think it's my mobo. Anyone have thoughts?
Got this one since day1, IMHO the only AM5 motherboard worth its price, along with AsRock X670E Taichi. The rest is some goddamn joke... Still, the lack of 7-segment display at this price range and marketing it as some gaming feature is abhorrent from ASUS.
If you're on AM5, its the CPUs that are designed at stock to boost up to the limit of your cooler. The simplest way to negate noise is setup the fan curves in the UEFI. I tend to set the max RPM to 70-85%.
He’s using a large liquid cooler. It will take some time for that water to heat up, and even then thanks to the large surface area and three large fans, not that high RPM is required to dissipate the heat. It might not be perfectly silent the way a thick custom loop can be, but it’ll probably be a lot quieter than with an air cooler, thanks to the water taking time to heat up. What you notice more than fan noise itself, is fan noise coming and going. Water cooling doesn’t do that (as long as the fan speed is controlled by the water temperature, this motherboard has a thermistor header which makes this easy to set up).
@@blkspade23 Yeah, first thing i did when i got the system running was to set fan curves in the UEFI, what i'm pondering about is that Wendell makes it sound like it was silent out of the box.
@@СусаннаСергеевна It's not so much all that i meant, i was thinking more in the lines of the CPU actively trying to boost until it hits 90c or something thus having the cooler making noise. Wendell in my mind makes it sound like it's just silent out of the box like it doesn't boost like that or maybe theres a trick i missed because it took some tinkering (even with the 420mm cooler i use) to actually make it silent. Could of cause also just be that we have different definitions of silence and/or i just want silence at full load as well. it's absolutely not anything against Wendell in case anyone thinks that. :)
Great video and motherboard but... WiFI! Who is using such a mobo with WiFi. The WiFi component should be separate like it used to be. WiFi... "Awe Come on!" in my GOB voice.
You can do cool things with Wifi, such as using the 6 GHz band to do wireless VR with the Meta Quest, or setting up a relay point for an internet connection to allow your devices to connect to your PC’s internet.
5:13 has three 12V connectors and that board will only supply 60watts not 75watts if that extra 6 pin is connected. Screams poorly designed board to me TBH, not a feature.
If only high end desktop still existed. It's just consumer desktop, overpriced consumer desktop and then (overpriced to be considered HEDT) light workstation. I don't think $1500 is unreasonable to get 64GB of memory, a 12 or 16 core CPU and 48 lane quad channel board. It is unreasonable for consumer socket tho and that's what we have today. Yet everyone cheers it on and tells me that I should have to overpay because they don't need the PCIE lanes even though the consumer socket is already so expensive that they're already freaking paying like they're getting them too.
![BEST Creator Motherboard for Ryzen 7000! - Asus X670E ProArt Creator WiFi Motherboard [Deep-dive]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/tPzN4QmeYqw/mqdefault.jpg)
Hey... I have this board, with a 7950X and a 7900XTX with 64GB of 6000Mhz, CL30 RAM, and running Ubuntu 24.04. Stable as heck. Runs awesomely.
I'm looking at a similar build right now! What case did you end up going with?
@@MusicalWhiskey Fractal Torrent.
Nice build!
I got with 4 sticks of kingston fury beast DDR5 6000MHz together give 128gb but God trouble to start pc with it..
I have this board that I bought back in the day for the same price as some medium tier B650e, because of a flash sale. It's an awesome board and very good for VFIO. I run a 6800XT passthrough without any issues. My only downside is the lack of debug display on the board, but I can live with it.
i just borked a 7950x+x670e hero with 4x32gb ddr5 somehow - was testing stability at 4400mt/s, which went fine, then i moved on to 4600mt/s and it stopped being able to train the memory, showing q-code 15 on the debug display for hours even after cmos resetting, bios flashbacks and parts reseating; eventually it managed to post with only one stick at the b2 slot at normal speeds, then died in the same way after a few days... was considering this board as a replacement but no q-code would be an even greater nightmare if something similar was to happen again, asus should really provide this on hardware in this category and price tag
Is why I disnt move to ddr5. We both got 13900k and z790 rigs. We returned both rigs for a refund. Went back to 5950x and 32 gig bdie. Not a single issue. So.....waiting for something better.
I have a 2x48gb kit. Since it's a dual rank, I tried once raising the memory speed but encountered instability, so I only tightened a bit the timings with 6000mhz. Since I mainly use it for productivity work, I wouldn't see benefit in doing, even in games the gains would be pretty minor in my opinion. Maybe in the future if I upgrade the 7950x CPU to Zen 5 or 6, they probably having a better memory controller, I'll try it again
@@realiesOne That sucks, I preferred the 2x48gb kit instead of using 4 because I saw a lot of reviewers saying to don't use 4 sticks of memory with ddr5, now I understand why
i was just very unlucky, not seen a single similar report for am5, instead, i was following guides from people who managed to do 4x32 and 4x48 at 6000 and beyond...
I love this board, it was the first AM5 platform I got and it was pretty much perfect for VFIO passing through a GPU and a USB controller to make a Windows guest for those few (Solidworks) things that just won’t run on Linux, with easy plug and play for flash drives and Bluetooth.
Especially nice is that a DP-HDMI cable plugged into rhe USB-C connectors will let my TV do 4k120Hz on the iGPU without dropping to chroma 4:2:2 like the HDMI port does. It doesn’t sound like much, but getting 4k120Hz iGPU is very nice for single dGPU passthrough. The host can use the GPU unhindered when the VM is off, and you can turn the VM on without a reboot, or even needing to log out of your DE. Perfect for LookingGlass.
I got one, for the 10gbe and thunderbolt 4, got an 7800X3D on it.
My monitor is connected with usb-c from my 7900xtx.
The PCI-E connector next to the 24 pins is for the USB-C 65w
Yeah which I dun have a extra 8pin cable to connect to it so no 65W charging for me.. which is fine as I dun really use PC for charging.
I've had this board since release paired with a 7900X + 64GB RAM + 6750XT Nitro+, on the whole I have zero complaints, it has been a rock solid mobo for me.
The thing I have benefitted most from surprisingly is all the USB4 and USB-C connectivity, with the PD/QC4+ support on the USB3.2g2/USB-C header for the front USB-C port and the three dual-port USB2.0 headers its a great all rounder when it comes to USB support, I can fast charge my phone and plug in a USB-C NVME caddy [via USB4 extension cable from rear ports] and max out the transfer speeds of the drive inside it.
My one gripe about this board is the onboard WiFi6E which is a needless addition imo, ASUS should have offered a non-WiFi version of this board [which would have shaved off some cost & possibly supported additional SATA ports instead] as the board comes with Intel 2.5GbE & Marvel AQtion 10GbE most people buying this board aint gonna be using half-duplex inferior WiFi over the full-duplex wired ethernet options available, I have mine sitting on a 10GbE LAN with other 10GbE enabled PCs/NAS and there's no way I'd go back to using slower ethernet.
Frankly I was bullied into buying a ProArt board for the 8x/8x pcie split since that's so non-standard now.
I'm happy with what I got tho. That power delivery port on the front USB is the most convenient thing in my life.
Big fan of Gigabyte Aero and Asus Creator boards in recent generations for including all the bells and whistles. Thunderbolt, 10g RJ45, DP in, great aesthetics, etc
Pricey but you really can’t ask for me on the desktop platforms
I bought this Mobo for my truenas build. Overkill but loving the feature set.
I got a awesome deal on this board and a 7950x when it launched. This board hit every one of my boxes especially aesthetics. I love it.
I bought this board when AM5 first came out and it is absolutely excellent. It had more features than the ROG boards for way less!
I can watch you build pc's all day, keep em coming sir!
Ah yes, a "high-end" mobo lacking seven segment display.
This is a plague
I will not buy a board that costs more than $150USD without one. I am done with this nonsense. I know how much the piece of hardware costs, $2 retail so I know ASUS could get them in bulk for way less.
And a decent warranty service.
I get why that's handy, but, in reality, good debug LEDs and patterns work just fine
@@jttech44 That's like saying "I get why Debug LEDs are handy, but, in reality, good oscilloscopes and troubleshooting work just fine. I'll take a specific POST Code over "Something went wrong." any flipping day of the week. I'm sorry, but if you engineer a motherboard with multiple RGB headers and don't include a 7-segment display you're dead to me.
My experience with the ProArt B650 version of this board has also been pretty good with VFIO.
Thank you ❤
I was thinking of upgrading to this mobo for a while when I was thinking of building an AM5 build. Ended up shelving the upgrade for later down the road but still love this mobo.
While i dont work with high end tech as this , His enthusiasm in doing so makes me happy in a way . I live m dreams thrue these vids ina way
One more thing to mention about the B650 version of the board is that the x16 slots in it are PCIe 4.0. While the X670E has two PCIe 5.0 slots.
As I recall, that feature from Asus regarding DP in-USBc out (pseudo Thunderbolt) was integrated in the Asus Prime X299 Edition30 that you reviewed some years ago. In fact that video prompted me to find/search and buy the Edition30, and I’m so impressed with the stability and features of that board still rocking my 10980xe. Great video as usually.
My 2016 Gigabyte z170 Designare has that feature. Wish it was more common.
I’ve been looking at this board for some time for the multiple M.2 options that let your GPU cache things on unused lanes while you’re working. Probably gonna get it now with the Wendell endorsement
Next video see this in action on the Level1Linux channel?
I would humbly suggest the Asrock X670E PG Lightning as a lower cost alternative. It has a Thunderbolt 4 AIC option and the main board headers for this as well as some other PCIe slots! 😲
*Thanks for that great tip.* I'm considering this board but now that you mention it Asrocks additional PCIe slots at lower cost does sound inviting, though I'm just presuming at this point on face value alone that the two different boards mirror identical specs for the other I|O ports, *if so* I'll probably grab that Asrock for a Lian Li 011 Dynamic XL case I just got...
*[ EDIT | Udate ] ::* Ah, have to pass on it after all.... I see that the Asrock X670E PG Lightning has niether bluetooth nor WIFI & has far fewer USB 3.2 Gen 2 ports. _It's still an okayyy value at its' price,_ yet I'll shell out for features it lacks. I think the Asrock X670E PG Lightning is aimed so much at gamers it stripped off things it feels most gamers rarely prefer or dont use at all, and I understand that. Fine. For that particular type of person, at nearly half the price of the ASUS board, yea sure go for the Asrock... but my expectations are more diverse than gaming-centric. In fact I rarely game, but I like the specs and i|o ports the ASUS has for the diversity of video editing rapid configs & connects it empowers one with. that's just my personal case. to each their own.
I’m worried about ASUS removing the mentioning of ECC memory support from the specifications page, it was definitely there in the past. Hope that some middle management suit at AMD isn’t planning to cut away ECC from regular CPUs similar to their non-PRO APUs.
Yeah, this is the board I would want for my next build. Or whatever comes after it.
Have run both the Z690 and Z790 versions of this board, with i9 K’s and dual nvidia quadro GPUs. Easy to config, fast and stable (even with 4 sticks DDR5 once I figured out the right stick arrangement for unmatched pairs) under both Win and Linux. And love the design aesthetics of ProArt. Really rate it. Interesting review on AM5 version, thnx
Any recommendations on 128gb ram configurations for this board? They say don’t use all 4 slots for stability purposes. I know that’s more of an am5 thing than a mobo thing but they have 4x32gb Kingston xmp enabled Intel kits listed as supported for this amd board are there even any 128gb kits with expo? (Tho some forums tell me don’t enable any overlocking on ram on am5 at this time either). Any insights would be greatly appreciated thank you
Just bought an Asus Pro WS W680-Ace for a 12900k proxmox server. seems to work well with linux so far besides one MFD error I keep getting, which I haven't figured out the issue for yet. Wish I knew about the pro creator series having linux support, otherwise I would've bought one of those instead.
The Pro B650M-CT-CSM from asus was the single b650 that supports x16 and a x4 from the cpu slots avaible for ML is a beast for the price
No solid side panel kind of kills that case for me. Id rather a sound dampened solid side panel any day. And it's unfortunate how bad Asus support can be, I ended up going with the gigabyte aero board even though the asus is better specced. When everything works that does look like a pretty nice setup though.
As cool as that case is, I would love to see that board in a rackmount workstation build
This mobo is kind of cool because it has the DP in port, which means you could have this sitting in a closet with a single usb-c optical cable running to a dock. Expensive, yes. Cool , yes. The only bad thing about this board is the long memory training times , so it can take a while to boot, but that seems like an AM5 problem in general.
The 6 pin extra power connector is for the onboard USB-C charging
i would instantly buy that case if it had a solid side-panel option
I think it is the least expensive board with 10gb for linux
*I love this video !* And I'm getting this board. I was surprised though at near end of video hearing that if traditional 2.5 vs. 10GB-Ethernet is only needed then opt instead for a B650 board, which I personally disagree. If you take the time and actually look physically in a side-by-side direct comparison of the backplate i|o ports between this X760E and a B650-Plus it's NO CONTEST _IMHO_ . This X760E is far superior, for connectivity advantages, as per the significantly higher volume of ports, at top specs. Yes, you pay more, easily double, hands down no doubt about that, but keep in mind you do get more in return than only higher ethernet.
Oh, whoa Nocuas on an AIO?? And that's actually a fantastic case
10:05 OMG, Wendell dwarfed by a computer!
Nice board but at this point might be worth waiting a few months to see if new AM5 boards come out? I know the 600 series will support the new processors, just might be annoying to spend £450 odd and then find there’s a ‘shiny’ new x770e or similar by end of summer
@Dr_b_ indeed, and to be honest I’ve been really disappointed with the overall design and aesthetics of so many AM5 boards. I own an X670E Hero and I’ve never been fully happy with it. I don’t understand why but Intel versions of the same board often look better and have more features (wtf ASUS). Hoping the next range of boards will look better.
And it's an ASUS board. You know, the company which fixed BIOS issues they created by releasing a beta BIOS which would void your warranty if you installed it.
@@BrunodeSouzaLino I don’t have a problem with ASUS. That whole thing was hugely overblown. Similar text had appeared alongside beta BIOS releases for years, it was probably a copy and paste job. It was right that they removed it eventually.
i build a couple of systems with this board for my company. And it love it. Only thing would be to get on PCIe5 M.2 Port from the CPU as a connector. I would love to use other SSDs with a cable. And get rid of RGB and onboard Sound 🙂
x8 x4 x4 is great when you want to have asitload of nvmes. AM5 had a real drought of such boards in comparison to am4
Not on Linux but thing has been rock solid with Win 10 LTSC IoT Enterprise. I needed TB for my Studio Display
It‘s also the board to get to connect up to 9 NVMe SSDs to without active PCIe switches :)
hope we get to see the next set of boards soon
I have this motherboard with a 7950x and 128GB of ram but im still using the first bios version. I had a lot of issues eventually getting 4800cl30 stable (documented on the level1 forum). Any of the newer bios versions i couldnt get more stable than 0405 or whatever the original bios was.
I have the full ProArt 'stack' build (PA602 case, X670E-Creator mb, LC420 AIO, RTX 4080Super OC) with a 7950x3d and 192GB of Corsair Vengeance DDR5 running at 5200cl38 using the 1905 BIOS (2024/02/07). It's on the support listed, part number for the kit is CMK192GX5M4B5200C38.
@FormalPluto I saw 48GB ddr5 dimms were much better than 32GB so I'm not surprised but I will try again to go for a newer bios because it has some mitigation for cpus cooking themselves with whatever that limit of 1.2 vsoc did
case looks like premium redesign of Fractal Design Torrent :))
Now considering swapping out my X670E Taichi for this hmmm.
Great detailed video.
The website says that it supports ECC UDIMMS and lists a few in the QVL list.
Side note about cases: I feel like this channel would love a Silverstone RM52
I feel like it would be cheaper to add 10GbE to a B650 board and not loose much functionality.
Please test regular pleb things like sleep compatibility under Linux with this board! It is still an overlooked issue that a lot of systems don't implement sleep under Linux properly.
Damn, they really hit RUclips hard with having every big tech channel do this build at the same time
Really? For us it's legit totally random
I have seen reports that the 10GbE does not actually reach the rated speed. Could you test that?
I thought the additional 6-Pin near the 24-Pin is for the PD functionality of the front USB-C Port
I may build a server with this board or the supermicro 12H ssli. Not sure yet...
Are the 2 PCIe 5.0 Expension Slots BOTH x16? I would like to think that the ProArt line would allow us to use 2 ProArt GPUs to their full bandwidth
No optical audio out on a board this expensive?
You can afford an adapter the apple way 😎
thats my only problem with it, just disabled the on board and got a creative card with optical
Getting external dac amps is the way to go
@@get2choppa well, yeah. That's why I want an optical audio output but it seems that very few mb include it nowadays.
As someone who works in the audio industry, optical for consumers is obsolete since modern formats like Atmos are too large for Toslink. HDMI is used for audio pass through these days
Does that display port in also work for cameras? Seems like a missed opportunity if it doesn’t.
How’s Gigabyte nowadays? Still pretty happy with my X570 system but I’ll probably upgrade within 1-2 generations, if I remember correctly Gigabyte was one of the better ones for X570, still true with the newer platforms?
Are you telling me I can almost have just a whole ass ProArt PC?
Is this the board I should grab for my 9950x, or should I wait for a new chipset for reasons?
Can you test the stability of the 10gbit port? I heard it is unstable and the chip heats up quite a bit.
News to me. I know Intel 2.5Gbps NICs and iNICs have had all sorts of reliability problems, though.
I’ve been using it since release and haven’t had any issues on Linux. I did need to reboot windows a few times due to the network dying, but that’s an issue I’ve had with other NICs too so it might just be windows.
Love seeing fantastic Linux support like this from manufacturers. Thanks Wendell for bringing this board and (sweet) case to our attention. What are the other motherboards you mentioned at the start of this video with full Linux support? @Level1Techs
How’s the idle power consumption of this board? I heard issue about it not going into deep C states
i was contemplating getting this board, but since it has no SPIDIF output (which i use for my hifi, to not have humming) i had to go a different route
Something was said about the Pro-Art Mobo being one of the three most compatible boards for Linux systems. What are the other two Mobos?
Never going back to asus. Their anti-consumer policies and the way they handle their customer service is atrocious. You can keep kissing their butt if you want to, but many of us will never go back there.
I mean you can have this opinion and be largely right, but tell me another AM5 board with ECC and a 10gbe connector.
@BeefIngot 4 months later and I'm looking for that rn
But the proart might just be it
So annoyed this case came out RIGHT after I put together my pro-art build!
And where are all the boards with onboard 10/50/100g sfp+/qsfp+?
not in the consumer section.
@@LackofFaithify as networks move more and more to fiber (it seems Enterprise has completely given up on rj45 copper, and I think that's starting to make sense) I expect that we'll all end up going that route. Fiber has roughly the same cost as copper while allowing you to use ever faster connection methods with the same glass, and it's Waaaaaay more energy efficient than 10g base t. I'm currently running a 24 port 10g base t switch that knocks back well over 100w and gets hit and loud (I swapped out the fans to make it quieter and temps are in spec but that's not something most are willing to do). There are already many cheap 1g switches with 10g sfp+ uplink for the crossover times. And sfp+ switches are now actually pretty cheap.
@@joshhardin666 What? Really? Yeah, no shit. There are no normies that are buying switches with 10g be it fiber or rj45. Most don't have anything beyond what their ISP puts in their house. Normies use wifi. So the answer to your question is the same, where are those faster connections? Not on anything consumer. People even somewhat involved in the tech world vastly overestimate their population size vs that of the people that still see computers as magic boxes. No one is going to cater to the home lab population as there are not enough of them.
the thing that bugs me on my x670e-creator is that pre-boot thunderbolt is only working for the network interface not for any USB device - so i can do ipxe but can't use a keyboard to configure the thng
Just managed to snag this for $200 open box. Only thing is, I didn't plan on actually finishing my new build until late this year so I've got no parts to use in it. Deal was too good to pass up.
Is there any way for me to test if this board actually works or is the risk too great and I should just return it? I can't really afford to do a full pc build up front rn.
If you don't peel the plastic on that pro art motherboard after a month or 2 they won't come off cleanly and they will start to bond with the plastic they are supposed to be protecting.
Can I use two rx 7900 xtx in a pro art b650 motherboard?
Huh. I'm wondering if this means that Asus Threadripper boards are more compatible with Linux? I'm looking at building a lower end Threadripper TrueNAS Scale system this fall. Lower end as I don't need a bagillion cores. I'm more interested in the PCI Lanes as I'm going to have a butt ton of storage + multiple HBA controllers for internal and external storage + GPU transcoding. Anyways I'm trying to from the most compatible TR boards. I haven't found a whole heck of a lot of info on Asus's Sage TR board when it comes to if it plays well with *nix.
How's the 10G Ethernet port working for you? I've built both this and the z690 version and both had trouble holding a 10G link with my switch. :(
Hello, I’m a fan of your channel. I have built ~10 CPUs over my lifetime. I still consider myself a novice when building a new PC. These PC systems typically last 5-7 years before I must upgrade due to needing enhanced or additional performance. I am a big AMD fan except for the AMD mobile CPUs. I am researching a new PC build. I need some help with CPU selection. I want to go with a AMD Ryzen™ Threadripper™ PRO 7975WX 32-Core, 64-Thread Processor which is at the very top of my budget. My wife is a creator and I also do some CAD work on PCs we share. I am a windows user and would like recommendation on new build. Can you provide some advice? I understand it is my responsibility to vet all parts before I purchase. Thanks,
Hey friend! I highly suggest going over to the Level 1 Techs forum to get some answers to your question. ~Editor Autumn
forum.level1techs.com/
amazon link is dead.
Power lock = ordering case while watching the rest of the video
Your Amazon link doesn't currently work for me.
even on the latest bios i still have issues with corsair 96GB 5600MHz CL40 kit, takes like 100 seconds to boot, really annoying
You need to enable the 2 Memory Context Restore options in the BIOS.
Does anyone know if the 10gb onboard NIC support SR-IOV?
Is it currently possible to use voice commands from the main computer to open subsystems with different functions like in Star Trek?
Interesting that Asus actually has that feature in my 2020 Asus X299 Prime Edition30 with Smart Control Console and Armoury Crate software. Has Sleep, Wake and voice activated Hot Keys for any app/program of your choosing. Plus it is voice recognition activated, only recognizing the administrators voice. Also has infrared facial recognition. At the time it was only available on the Edition30 motherboard. Haven’t seen it marketed on any subsequent boards since. Cheers.
@@julianfiacconi709 You bad guy wants to trick me into installing ASUS Armory Crate, I won’t fall for it.
Amazon link is broken
So that video in is like a Toaster?
Cool bananas
Why not review the newer z790 proArt instead of this older one?
Z790 is Intel. This is amd. Intel not great for iommu passthrough
Went with B650 for pcie bifurcation. Missed the DP passthrough feature. So I couldn't use my headless GPU with iGPU.
You probably can. Turn on Hybrid Graphics in BIOS and you should be able to use it like laptops, with the iGPU driving the display and the dGPU spinning up for those things that require it.
@@СусаннаСергеевна Not the case sadly. That was my intention, but the iGPU has no outputs on this MOBO.
@@kopasz777 Are you sure about that? It should have DP on both USB-C ports, and an HDMI out. If you don’t connect your dGPU to the DP in, the USB-C ports will output from the iGPU.
@@СусаннаСергеевна The type-C DP is only passthrough. I even got bought special cables and it didn't work. I was also wrong though, I forgot it has a single hdmi port, I used that for a short while before switching to an x670 prime. Using both monitors was more important for me.
Cat proof power button? Ok, Asus can now take all the money.
Hi Steve!!! Saw your video with the z790 livemixer, I had to have it. Currently using it with a 13500 and a 6700xt from xfx. The performance is crazy and runs cool. Thanks for the tip.
I saw the the Proart board but it's ugly compared to the livemixer.
Steve? 🙃
But the ProArt is way prettier than the LiveMixer.
I'm here because somehow the X870 version of this board had less features that I needed. 🤔
Anyone used this board with proxmox?
I have this board. I THINK it's been giving me hell since November. I've had to clear CMOS once every ten days. Unsure what the real problem is, but everyone seems to think it's my mobo. Anyone have thoughts?
Try a new cr2032 cos battery
Got this one since day1, IMHO the only AM5 motherboard worth its price, along with AsRock X670E Taichi. The rest is some goddamn joke... Still, the lack of 7-segment display at this price range and marketing it as some gaming feature is abhorrent from ASUS.
Near silent, so running without PBO or?
Asking because my motherboard out of the box was set to just boost until thermal, was annoying as h...
If you're on AM5, its the CPUs that are designed at stock to boost up to the limit of your cooler. The simplest way to negate noise is setup the fan curves in the UEFI. I tend to set the max RPM to 70-85%.
He’s using a large liquid cooler. It will take some time for that water to heat up, and even then thanks to the large surface area and three large fans, not that high RPM is required to dissipate the heat.
It might not be perfectly silent the way a thick custom loop can be, but it’ll probably be a lot quieter than with an air cooler, thanks to the water taking time to heat up. What you notice more than fan noise itself, is fan noise coming and going. Water cooling doesn’t do that (as long as the fan speed is controlled by the water temperature, this motherboard has a thermistor header which makes this easy to set up).
@@blkspade23 Yeah, first thing i did when i got the system running was to set fan curves in the UEFI, what i'm pondering about is that Wendell makes it sound like it was silent out of the box.
@@СусаннаСергеевна It's not so much all that i meant, i was thinking more in the lines of the CPU actively trying to boost until it hits 90c or something thus having the cooler making noise.
Wendell in my mind makes it sound like it's just silent out of the box like it doesn't boost like that or maybe theres a trick i missed because it took some tinkering (even with the 420mm cooler i use) to actually make it silent.
Could of cause also just be that we have different definitions of silence and/or i just want silence at full load as well. it's absolutely not anything against Wendell in case anyone thinks that. :)
12:34 - Ubuntu is pronounced OO BOON TOO.. BOON not BUN
Great video and motherboard but... WiFI! Who is using such a mobo with WiFi. The WiFi component should be separate like it used to be. WiFi... "Awe Come on!" in my GOB voice.
You can do cool things with Wifi, such as using the 6 GHz band to do wireless VR with the Meta Quest, or setting up a relay point for an internet connection to allow your devices to connect to your PC’s internet.
5:13 has three 12V connectors and that board will only supply 60watts not 75watts if that extra 6 pin is connected. Screams poorly designed board to me TBH, not a feature.
How linux works?
If only high end desktop still existed. It's just consumer desktop, overpriced consumer desktop and then (overpriced to be considered HEDT) light workstation. I don't think $1500 is unreasonable to get 64GB of memory, a 12 or 16 core CPU and 48 lane quad channel board. It is unreasonable for consumer socket tho and that's what we have today. Yet everyone cheers it on and tells me that I should have to overpay because they don't need the PCIE lanes even though the consumer socket is already so expensive that they're already freaking paying like they're getting them too.
WWhats the case ??
asus pro art case
I like my Thermaltake V71 tower better
10GB without sriov support? It is useless for vfio build. Just get the proart b650 version instead.
10gb lan, 2.5gb lan and wifi... what a stupid setup