Thanks for your good tip. ❤ I just got Daniel Smith's secondary set and it has the Quinn burnt orange in it. It's been on sale for less than $30, so I figured I couldn't go wrong. I have the basic colors and wanted something a little more exciting. I'll try this combo on my 'grey page'.
For those in love with the M. Graham PB60 and wanting to try it but for some reason don't have the option to, a Very(!) affordable and similar option is the Rosa Gallery PB60. It doesn't have the same texture in masstone and isn't as matte, but they are close in both intensity and hue. Plus, the RG one is Ukrainian. It's my second favourite! ☺️ Also love the QoR one, it's intense and smooth, but expensive.
Oh, thanks. I just picked up some Rosa Gallery... it's been on super sale for a while clearing out their stock. The 24 piece in a paper box was less than $15! So I picked up a couple of those and two of their modern 21 colors in a tin. It's still on sale for $23! The tin is really lovely, and it has cobalt turquoise and indanthrene blue, which the first set does not have. I also have been looking at some tubes and comparing Daniel Smith to M Graham. I chose the M Graham for pb60... your comment reassures me that I made the right choice.
I just swatched my W&N indanthrone next to the M Graham dot that I have and wow they are very different. MG is more like a moody navy and probably what this pigment is more meant to look like. WN is definitely brighter, like a pthalo as you said. The WN is like a non-granulating ultramarine, which is what I've been using it as, but I definitely need the MG to get the deep stormy blues that my soul craves sometimes :)
YES!! oh my goodness! that's what i was searching for~ "DEEP STORMY BLUES" i love how you put those into words. honestly, most of the time i have feelings about colours that i can't accurately express but thank you for reading my mind! XD
These are fine, but M. Graham has the most beautiful PB60 I have tried, especially in the mass tone. It is more vibrant than either of these paints. My advice is to splurge on the M. Graham, you won’t regret it.
interesting! someone also mentioned M. Graham! although i doubt i'll be buying M Graham anytime soon. apparently they don't cure well in palettes and i've heard of some people getting mold with MGraham.
@@PaintinHiding it really depends on your climate. Even if you couldn’t use it in pans in your specific climate, using it out of the tube is such a pleasure, you might want to try it in your studio, or at your desk. Keep your eye out for a deal, I promise you won’t regret it!
The Rosa Gallery one is very close to the M. Graham one in intensity. It doesn't really have the same texture in masstone, and I am in LOVE with the M. Graham PB60, but the Rosa Gallery is a close second! And the QoR is great if you want an intense one that's very smooth (though costly). ☺️
It seems Daniel Smith is looking a bit richer and more muted here, I like that. I am currently using Schmincke PB60 (Delft Blue) and it looks darker and more muted than the White Nights. When I use White Nights I find myself wanting to adjust it with a bit of Indigo so that it becomes deeper XD
Interesting. The White Nights version looks more transparent to me than the other two, which makes it quite pretty. But the Daniel Smith one is simply a beautiful color, as is the W&N, and I think you're right - the DS looks warmer than the other two, and the W&N looks brighter, more like a Phthalo. I guess the long and short of it is that I like all three, but if I didn't watch them go down on paper and I was only looking at the dried swatches, I would probably choose White Nights, lol.
haha, i completely know what you mean! they're all beautiful in their own way. it just depends which hue and characteristics one would prefer. if i had a fullpan of white nights, i think i might've enjoyed it more than tube.
Oh wow, nice Tintoretto brush. I have the ridiculously long liners. I want to get their travel quill :-) PB 60 is one of my favorite colors. It seems there are several variants, some smokier and some more vibrant, and some redder.I have DS (well, I actually used it up... it's super red and very smoky), M. Graham (a particularly beautiful and dark one), Sennelier (nothing special) and Qor (very saturated blue like the W&N you show here). I would buy more of the Qor and the M. Graham but they are quite different! Oh I want to try Mission Gold someday, theirs also gets super dark.
i want their travel sword. jackson's doesn't have it but it's on the tintoretto site. your long liner also comes in a travel brush form as well. i wish jackson's would stock them. they're so unique. oohh i love your use of the word smoky here, very fitting! yeah, i've tried mission gold's dot card and their PB60 is definitely very pigmented. edit: haul vid with travel quill coming later this week ;P
nice swatches! I fell in love with PB60 when I tried it in Schmincke and it has a place in every of my palettes as my cool blue. It's pretty versatile and nice deep blue. The White Nights and W&N looked so much like Prussian Blue in your swatches, almost weird. Do you know if it was the camera or are the colours indeed that different? Last year there was a shortage of PB60 and QoR and White Nights had problems with their suppliers. QoR mentioned, that they've solved the issue and have found a replacement, so they can keep the quality. While White Nights have added another PB60 to their range to replace the hue they could not get anymore. So the differences in the colours could be due to the different suppliers and quality of the pigment maybe?
ohh i recently got the schmincke dot card, i'll keep an eye out for that PB60 :D hmmm i think it's the camera to screen problem where it just doesn't capture it very well. OOHH now that you mention it, i think i remember white nights adding a new PB60. i think you're spot on in that assessment, most likely diff supplier.
@@LanaGoesArt that's a good question! i think they probably do. i have an older rembrandt cerulean blue hue that looks like PB36 cerulean blue but the recent one i tried looks more like a PB35.
White nights travels comparatively lesser. Which one would you say is the most unpredictable and free flowing on paper? Daniel Smith, Winsor and Newton or Schmincke?
each individual paint is different from each brand so i cant really pick a certain one because i haven’t painted with all. schmincke does contain ox gall though so should flow more
seems like other people agree with you too! :D although i doubt i'll be buying M Graham anytime soon. apparently they don't cure well in palettes and i've heard of some people getting mold with MGraham. thank you for the suggestion though, seems promising!
@@PaintinHiding my favorite thing to paint is water and skies. So yes I use it often and I mix my own greens too. You really don't need much and I try not to waste paint so only occasionally wipe my pallet clean.😉🥰
There’s 2 version of this pigment: Indanthrone Blue, the warmer, more bluer version of PB60: Indanthrone Blue by every brand (excluding DS and WhNts. Indanthrone Blue Light (the current version) by White Nights Indanthrone Blue Deep, the cooler, more violetier version of PB60: Indanthrone Blue by Daniel Smith Indanthrone Blue (old, discontinued version) by White Nights Both Delft Blue and Dark Blue by Schmincke (Dark Blue is more muted than Delft Blue)
Here, even in the painting, you can see that the White Nights have formed into some kind of clumps... I never understood why people in Europe admire them so much? The only thing interesting about them is the price. This is where the advantages end.
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Thank you for always give us different options.
glad you're enjoying other colour swatching vids :)
I love the Daniel Smith Indanthrone Blue! It makes a beautiful neutral brown to grey if mixed with their Quin Burnt Orange 💙🧡
ooooh i have quin burnt orange! i'll need to try that combo, thank you for the suggestion! :D
Thanks for your good tip. ❤ I just got Daniel Smith's secondary set and it has the Quinn burnt orange in it. It's been on sale for less than $30, so I figured I couldn't go wrong. I have the basic colors and wanted something a little more exciting. I'll try this combo on my 'grey page'.
For those in love with the M. Graham PB60 and wanting to try it but for some reason don't have the option to, a Very(!) affordable and similar option is the Rosa Gallery PB60. It doesn't have the same texture in masstone and isn't as matte, but they are close in both intensity and hue. Plus, the RG one is Ukrainian. It's my second favourite! ☺️ Also love the QoR one, it's intense and smooth, but expensive.
Oh, thanks. I just picked up some Rosa Gallery... it's been on super sale for a while clearing out their stock. The 24 piece in a paper box was less than $15! So I picked up a couple of those and two of their modern 21 colors in a tin. It's still on sale for $23! The tin is really lovely, and it has cobalt turquoise and indanthrene blue, which the first set does not have. I also have been looking at some tubes and comparing Daniel Smith to M Graham. I chose the M Graham for pb60... your comment reassures me that I made the right choice.
@@windywednesday4166 I'm glad it helped! ☺️
I just swatched my W&N indanthrone next to the M Graham dot that I have and wow they are very different. MG is more like a moody navy and probably what this pigment is more meant to look like. WN is definitely brighter, like a pthalo as you said. The WN is like a non-granulating ultramarine, which is what I've been using it as, but I definitely need the MG to get the deep stormy blues that my soul craves sometimes :)
YES!! oh my goodness! that's what i was searching for~ "DEEP STORMY BLUES" i love how you put those into words. honestly, most of the time i have feelings about colours that i can't accurately express but thank you for reading my mind! XD
These are fine, but M. Graham has the most beautiful PB60 I have tried, especially in the mass tone. It is more vibrant than either of these paints. My advice is to splurge on the M. Graham, you won’t regret it.
interesting! someone also mentioned M. Graham! although i doubt i'll be buying M Graham anytime soon. apparently they don't cure well in palettes and i've heard of some people getting mold with MGraham.
@@PaintinHiding They do stay a little tacky but not runny, at least here. Though it may be more humid where you live which can make a difference.
@@PaintinHiding it really depends on your climate. Even if you couldn’t use it in pans in your specific climate, using it out of the tube is such a pleasure, you might want to try it in your studio, or at your desk. Keep your eye out for a deal, I promise you won’t regret it!
@@ms.rocketscience4924 i'll keep that in mind, thank you! i definitely love looking for deals so i'll keep my eyes opened :D
The Rosa Gallery one is very close to the M. Graham one in intensity. It doesn't really have the same texture in masstone, and I am in LOVE with the M. Graham PB60, but the Rosa Gallery is a close second! And the QoR is great if you want an intense one that's very smooth (though costly). ☺️
It seems Daniel Smith is looking a bit richer and more muted here, I like that. I am currently using Schmincke PB60 (Delft Blue) and it looks darker and more muted than the White Nights. When I use White Nights I find myself wanting to adjust it with a bit of Indigo so that it becomes deeper XD
Thanks for another great comparison video ☺️
thank you!
Interesting. The White Nights version looks more transparent to me than the other two, which makes it quite pretty. But the Daniel Smith one is simply a beautiful color, as is the W&N, and I think you're right - the DS looks warmer than the other two, and the W&N looks brighter, more like a Phthalo. I guess the long and short of it is that I like all three, but if I didn't watch them go down on paper and I was only looking at the dried swatches, I would probably choose White Nights, lol.
haha, i completely know what you mean! they're all beautiful in their own way. it just depends which hue and characteristics one would prefer. if i had a fullpan of white nights, i think i might've enjoyed it more than tube.
I prefer daniel smith one for it is more violet in hue and a bit more moody. Mix with daniel smith perylene maroon to get dramatic black and indigo.
oh, i'll need to try that mix~ thanks for the rec!
Oh wow, nice Tintoretto brush. I have the ridiculously long liners. I want to get their travel quill :-)
PB 60 is one of my favorite colors. It seems there are several variants, some smokier and some more vibrant, and some redder.I have DS (well, I actually used it up... it's super red and very smoky), M. Graham (a particularly beautiful and dark one), Sennelier (nothing special) and Qor (very saturated blue like the W&N you show here). I would buy more of the Qor and the M. Graham but they are quite different! Oh I want to try Mission Gold someday, theirs also gets super dark.
i want their travel sword. jackson's doesn't have it but it's on the tintoretto site. your long liner also comes in a travel brush form as well. i wish jackson's would stock them. they're so unique.
oohh i love your use of the word smoky here, very fitting! yeah, i've tried mission gold's dot card and their PB60 is definitely very pigmented. edit: haul vid with travel quill coming later this week ;P
nice swatches! I fell in love with PB60 when I tried it in Schmincke and it has a place in every of my palettes as my cool blue. It's pretty versatile and nice deep blue. The White Nights and W&N looked so much like Prussian Blue in your swatches, almost weird. Do you know if it was the camera or are the colours indeed that different?
Last year there was a shortage of PB60 and QoR and White Nights had problems with their suppliers. QoR mentioned, that they've solved the issue and have found a replacement, so they can keep the quality. While White Nights have added another PB60 to their range to replace the hue they could not get anymore. So the differences in the colours could be due to the different suppliers and quality of the pigment maybe?
ohh i recently got the schmincke dot card, i'll keep an eye out for that PB60 :D hmmm i think it's the camera to screen problem where it just doesn't capture it very well.
OOHH now that you mention it, i think i remember white nights adding a new PB60. i think you're spot on in that assessment, most likely diff supplier.
@@PaintinHiding I wonder now if the hue changes from batch to batch too sometimes?
@@LanaGoesArt that's a good question! i think they probably do. i have an older rembrandt cerulean blue hue that looks like PB36 cerulean blue but the recent one i tried looks more like a PB35.
White nights travels comparatively lesser. Which one would you say is the most unpredictable and free flowing on paper? Daniel Smith, Winsor and Newton or Schmincke?
each individual paint is different from each brand so i cant really pick a certain one because i haven’t painted with all. schmincke does contain ox gall though so should flow more
If you get the chance to try M Graham Anthraquinone blue (pb60) you should! It’s so beautiful!
seems like other people agree with you too! :D although i doubt i'll be buying M Graham anytime soon. apparently they don't cure well in palettes and i've heard of some people getting mold with MGraham. thank you for the suggestion though, seems promising!
I have the M Graham. It is so pigmented I've had the same tube for 4 years and still have a third of the tube left!
wahh~ everyone seems to be raving about mgraham's version! woahhh i guess you don't paint with it all that often?
@@PaintinHiding my favorite thing to paint is water and skies. So yes I use it often and I mix my own greens too. You really don't need much and I try not to waste paint so only occasionally wipe my pallet clean.😉🥰
@@annettefournier9655 that’s amazing it’s lasted so long!! everyone seems to agree with you on m.graham as well!
There’s 2 version of this pigment:
Indanthrone Blue, the warmer, more bluer version of PB60:
Indanthrone Blue by every brand (excluding DS and WhNts.
Indanthrone Blue Light (the current version) by White Nights
Indanthrone Blue Deep, the cooler, more violetier version of PB60:
Indanthrone Blue by Daniel Smith
Indanthrone Blue (old, discontinued version) by White Nights
Both Delft Blue and Dark Blue by Schmincke (Dark Blue is more muted than Delft Blue)
ohhh thanks for the info V!
The W&N one looks more saturated and green-leaning. Maybe it could be used both as phthalo blue and a prussian blue.
What watercolor sketchbook do you use for your swatches?
seikai sketchbook. i talked about it in my most used supplies video here ruclips.net/video/Tv331r6hLlM/видео.htmlsi=AwhXs-I60igPIIIv
Here, even in the painting, you can see that the White Nights have formed into some kind of clumps... I never understood why people in Europe admire them so much? The only thing interesting about them is the price. This is where the advantages end.
the price is probably the enticing factor as u said.
@@PaintinHiding As we say in Russia, “the miser pays twice.” It's better to add money and buy normal paint.
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I'm pretty sure being first is your job now :-)
@@jennw6809 Just on RUclips. Everything else, I’m lagging behind. One must have balance in one’s life 😂😂😂😂
wait, i'm on the computer, where did the emoji button go? awww i can't give u a medal without an emoji button! did youtube take it away? D:
@@PaintinHiding I still see emoji button 😘
@@jennw6809 noooo~ i don't have it anymore D: under every video, the description box is also different now. i don't like change~ T.T