The Building Piece You're Ignoring That Is A GAMECHANGER!!! Advanced Structural Integrity Guide
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- Опубликовано: 2 июл 2024
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For any builders in Valheim that have not made their way to using iron beams, they are absolutely insane in what they offer versus the other building pieces. In today's vid, we stretch the limits of what's possible with the beams as well as how they work in conjunction with stone building pieces. Hope it helps! Thanks for watching 🧡
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Thanks for the video, you showed me some stuff I didn't know. Now I'll help you! If you plant Iron beams into the ground and then place stone so that they touch half of the iron beams you can go much higher with your stone walls. This also work for your stone floors, enabling you to make ceilings that doesn't appear to have any support pillars (as the iron beams are hidden inside the stone floor beams). Just remember you go up with your iron beams and then 90` out with iron beams. Then put stone tiles so 50% of the beam is inside the stone tiles. Hope I explained that right, good luck!
This is awesome!
You can also put iron gates inside stone walls to increase height. Although I don't know which is better yet, Iron polls or iron gates.
@xpatches13, This information you provided is Absolutely Platinum in value! I just last night built a Pyramid which is 20x20 Stone Square at base foundation completely in normal game survival mode. It has 5 sets of floors that are for now wooden but later hope to possibly convert to stone or as best high up as can. Structural Stability was very important from beginning so I added in a very center Stone pillar base support at 3x3 square Stone Pillars purport with raised ground underneath but reinforced with the iron wooden beams.
The main reason I didn’t currently try to do the upper floors as overhead stone floors was the massive amount of iron needed. I put off going onward to the Plains to build the pyramid and just not ready to head back to he swamp. However, thanks a billion for this vital information with 50% of Stone touching or the air on beam embedded inside the Stone Floor. This will be massively helpful to me and I spent about three hours at least today watching some RUclips videos of testers I know have done structural videos to figure how best to do the stone flooring. Your the first person in all the comments I’ve read that actually explained how it really works with the 50% issue.
So what I’m thinking I’ll have to do and with some tests of my own too is maybe for the floors above the first floor is to build a mesh network of Iron Reinforced Beams across the floor connecting to all the other stone pillars for support in a square design pattern mesh in order to make a proper stone floor. Regardless, the information was very vital.
I for one enjoyed being taught Valheim building by Ned Flanders
Since you're already flying around,set the time of day. "tod 0.5" so sun don't set.
You can extend stone integrity by putting iron gates inside the stone.
The piece you're really ignoring is the iron gate. It takes 4 iron, but it counts as one 2 high 2 wide entity (kinda like corewood pillar vd reg wood pillar) and you can hide them in stone wall for improved stability
I kinda feel like you didn’t see the real strength of the iron beams. The Horizontal beam strength. Also horizontal iron beams allow for stone to be placed on top and stone counts as shelter so you could make a stone base with internal iron beams and be in shelter. Try place stone foundations on horizontal iron beams
Yeah agree, he needs to do a video on that.
The building piece I've ignored? You mean the piece I use the MOST.
Thank you so much for the vid. Very informative and I love how you made your dockyard. That is a great idea.
Well this is game changing. Thank you!
I've been missing around with iron beams and found they are stronger then stone. I needed to change some stone from the base of a build and was able to use iron wood beams to hold up the stone while I replaced it.
I haven't tried it yet but I'd wager you could also use iron wood beams to get even more height out of your stone.
I haven't unlocked iron beams yet, but I really need to. 3-4 stories is the best I can figure with stone/wood structures, and even there the roof starts to get seriously wonky and unstable without creative structural integrity strategies.
This is a great breakdown
Thank you
"tod 0.5" will make it a bright day. thanks for the tutorial.
A cool thing if you want to try out is that with the iron beams you can effectively make square shape holes and then plant Stone floors on them making a stone roof. I have made one about 6x12
This is extremely helpful to me. I’m building a 20x20 stone foundation pyramid on a natural island in the sea. That just about says it all with needing good knowledge for Iron reinforced flooring overhead. I’ve just finished building it with all the other floors being wooden with wooden beam frame. I hope soon to convert some the floors as I can to stone and your info is extremely helpful.
Super informative ty!
You can get more Iron in the swamps by using the 'Wishbone' to find underground veins :)
One other thing to consider is if you build up the ground on one side of the stone walls or dig down and place the stone against the ground wall it will act as I'f the stone is at ground lvl allowing you to build higher with the stone walls.
Great info, thank you
something I've found with iron poles, it just take forever to actually break, so sometimes it looks like it's super strong, but it just hasn't broken yet.
This 100%! Thank you
I think the best looking is a 3 high floor supported on the outside with stone pillars with stone arches going between the pillars along the side walls and towards the middle of the room. Then either do a second floor or a balcony overlooking the main room (or a loft or some combination). With the arches I think you could do a floor 10 across with no support pillars in the middle, but if you go say one wall up and then across the roof will likely collapse. You could though put a been (possibly fine wood) on the edge of the stone arch and likely still get the roof to cover. This would let you do a large room with 10x10 with only 4 stone pillars on each side with stone arches on each side of the pillars.
Thank you very much sir :)
I’m just gonna say that I’m building a 20x20 at stone base foundation pyramid that’s completely open air and wooden beamed all the way to the apex of the Pyramid. The debug mode flying part you explained at the beginning OMG 😳 would have been immensely helpful to me. I had to build scaffolding and ladders everywhere to build the pyramid with I just finished framing and flooring and wooden patterned the all wooden side beam support. However, what it will help in is for some roofing at strategic locations. Damn helpful!
pressing B lets you free build with no cost also. as well as repair and craft from inventory regardless of stations present.
Also recently discovered iron beams changed my life. You should try them for stone reinforcing as well
wait tell you figure out the iron gate trick
On the second set of test that you made with the stone walls+wood beams, can you try reinforcing the stone walls with iron beams? Maybe it'll increase the build height.
It does. Quite a bit.
@Gaming It Out. Along with having done this video you should do a followup video where you test the Iron Reinforced Beams in a horizontal 90 Deg setting and also incorporate how it’s stability affects floors and stone flooring build overhead from foundation stone piece. I think many Valheim players will find that result interesting helpful. I’m building a pyramid, that kind of structural stability is massively important to understanding how to build a stone floor overhead.
When I am building with stone I use iron wood as supports inside the stone. You get the stone aesthetic with the iron wood structure. However, there is still a limit on how high stone goes.
1. Iron beams can improve height of stone wall
2. Stone floor can support each other from sides much more then if there are no support from sides
Man, please tell me you gathered all the resources for that. That’s crazy.
Awesome, you just saved me so much time to figure this out. I kept falling. I just started on swamp and have wolves doing it solo and I spend most my time hunting to feed wolves and still have not finished my base because I was waiting for these walls and the iron I needed. THANK YOU !!! :D What do you mean by main world for resources is there another way to get resources from other worlds? O.o
happy to hear it helped!
And i think i just meant the things i had in my inventory from my other world... You can carry things with you from game to game with your character.
Good stuff would be great to see the highest possible level with a combination of all the columns
There is 1 more way to increase this. Raise ground first. Hide the raised ground with stone but then place the iron beam on the raised ground and then do whatever you'd like to hide that it's like that. The raised ground height mechanics are definitely odd sometimes, usually if near water, you're limited. But on a hill near but not on a mountain.... You can go VERY high. Skyscraper high. Or if you really want to, you can use one of the huge stone structures in the plains and just cover it completely with stone and then just build a super high beam structure above that if you want to touch the sky.
That is a great idea! Super helpful, thank you!
I built a pyramid on a natural island. You can only raise the land so much on an island in middle of sea. When I built the center support stone column on the pyramid I raised the ground after underneath the 3x3 pillar support was in place. Dug out remove the center pillar and dropped down in middle of it to raise the land underneath. It was a weird trick to do, but the land could only be raised so much and with the weird after recent patch pointy tip to the raise terrain vs the previously flat terrain on raise land.
Thought you were also going to test and mention using poles to support the floor horizontal. Also you can use the same debug to change time of day : tod 0.4
Oh also metal bar doors put inside the stone acts as kind of rebar
I learned about flying kinda the reverse of you. I learned it first, and spend many (many) hours using it & the no-cost-building feature (B key after 'debugmode') to build cool stuff. But then I started a server with a friend, and we're not running cheats (don't think you can, actually). I've had to learn how to build complicated things WITHOUT flying, and over time, I feel like my actual build skills have improved dramatically. It's definitely a pain in the a$$ when you have to figure out scaffolding and structural integrity schemes, but it adds to the "flavor" of the game, and, in my case at least, more realistic builds.
I saw another video where a guy placed iron gates inside of his stone blocks to reinforce them. Unfortunately I don't remember who so I can't credit them.
So You don’t stream? I’d like to see your gameplay.
The codes i use to be in creative are:
imaacheater : to start
debugmode : z to fly, b to build, k to kill everything
tod 0.5 : sets time to midday
env Clear : sets weather to sunny
removedrops : improves fps when there's alot of clutter
Exploremap : reveals the entire map
god : to not get hurt
Happy building :)
Well the good news is I now know I can use iron beams for my building project but the bad news is I HAVE to use Iron beams. For context, I'm building a bridge with arched supports in order to make space for ships to sail under, problem is I've only used basic wood beams so far, I'm like 70% done but I cant go any farther because the bridge just cant take anymore stress without more support, these Iron beams are what I need. I haven't tried core wood beams but I'm afraid of placing them, then taking the scaffolding out from under the bridge and have the middle completely far apart. I really need this to work because the river that flows underneath is an important highway for me being able to get around.
Saw a vid of someone saying they used an iron door within their rocks to increase their height please test
your also missing if you have iron beams going up from the ground through the stone, or iron beams inside log beams. if you have iron/log beams on either side of the stone it'll go higher. as well as using a tree as an anchor point. from the top of a tree you can go 19 height with iron beams.
at any point on a tree it counts as a ground point.
what about Stone+Iron : Iron from the ground Touching a Stone Pillar
and beyond that Iron, supported by wood beams also touching Stone
One thing you didn't try is reinforcing the stone walls with the iron beams it actually adds a little more height. I believe its because it will connect the iron beams to the ground. I was able to get 13 stone walls high before needing to switch to wood .. the iron beams really have some weird properties.... I still don't fully understand them to be honest.
Time to build the RED KEEP!!
We need a new video with all the mist lands parts
damn that's crazy
I've watched quite a few build videos but I haven't seen anyone using the iron banded beams. I don't know if it's for the aesthetics or if they just don't know how useful they are.
You can "hide" iron beams inside the poles, logs, and stone. That way you can get the structural support without the having to see them.
Even back then, who said people were "ignoring" wood iron poles...
Is it wrong that I had the song "A Whole New World" Playing in my head while watching your informative vid?
Would be cool if they added steel beams. Not in the theme though. Also you can use the tod command for a specific time of day. Tod 0.5 is noon. Cheers
Iron beam are always best if connected to the ground. Raise the ground then put iron beams on it. Works great!
use iron gates imbedded in stone wall, you can go 28 high
So with this knowledge and stuff i have learned the highest you can build is using a pinetree on raised earth 16 times.
Or just use those big Stone pillars in The plains
A few of my friends were sleeping on Wood Iron beams, and then I should them my Citadel on the mountain. One question, how high can you go with 4 Iron gates built around a floor tile?
I've been told that iron gates basically work the same as wood iron beams but you can get more height with them, but i haven't gotten in to play around with it just yet.
Press “B” to toggle free building (no workbench/resources needed).
Press “Z” to toggle flying. Press spacebar to fly up, Ctrl to fly down.
Press “K” to kill all nearby enemies.
Interesting information thanks... but for the sake of the video for viewers you can type tod 0.5... so it will not go dark...cheers!
To change time of day type "Tod .5" in f5, incase you didnt know
How many floors high can they go on the poles that are are the stone?
Im still in my first playthru trying to use zero console but the flying for building would save me a lot of time lol
Build scaffolding!
meh where's the fun in that lol
what about foundation slab under the stone wall?
need the dock build
Iron beams not counting stone as a foundations seems like a bug?
if the sun starts going down on you, and you're using the cheats anyway, just type "tod 0.5" in the F5 cursor. That'll make it high noon for the rest of that game session. I still haven't figured out how to stop the rainstorms, but you can stop events that threaten your "creative mode" creations by typing "stopevent" in F5 after one has started. Otherwise trolls might wreck your artwork.
Stop the rainstorms with 'env Clear'. You can also set other weather patterns this way, but I only go for 'clear'
tod 0.5 will set ur day to noon for good
i finally figured this out a couple of days ago and it's been life changing hahaha, thanks for the tip!
I would like to see a defense base against blue shrek.
what
Easy. Make a moat as deep as blue shrek is tall, or raise the ground above their height. Done.
The actual calculation can be found in this Reddit post, where the code has been reverse engineered.
www.reddit.com/r/valheim/comments/ly3cgu/correct_building_stability_calculation_from_code/?context=3
However, good Vid, simple enough for most folks, great job.
iron beams inside stone walls?
Seems like you are reaching the limit of the building height with the beams and stone walls
But Iron Gates into stonewalls to massivly increase the stability
You’re doing the Allfather’s work my dude. Thank you for your contribution
They NEED to make iron farmable in the world for end game players in the plains or somewhere else, cause farming iron in those dark crypts that have no music gets reaaaly boring.
the mother blob can drop scrap iron but it's too luck based
Only way around this is to start a fresh seed that has a huge swamp biome and when you farm it all up just delete the seed and start over.
Use the wishbone in the swamp, there are mud piles hidden underground all over the swamp biome, no need to go into the crypts.
heard this voice in a raid shadow legends shard pull video before....
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@@GamingItOut ahah! Jgigs (call me gigs reminded me)
Nice Ark cube you're working on lol you know you don't have to build giant cubes in this game right? Brother has Ark syndrome, he's building everything for a rex to walk into lol
Yeah that definitely couldn't just be a general outline that's going to change as the build progresses 🙄
tod .4 (Time of day)
thats nice and all, but those beams look realy bad so i'm not gonna use them. my stave churche worked perfectly fine with core wood pillars ;)
I agree. They are super functional, but ugly. Unless I am trying to hide support for a cathedral ceiling, they are not in my build :(
Tell this man about IRON GATES.
You're the 2nd person that's said this!! I NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THE IRON GATES TELL ME!!
@@GamingItOut It's nothing all that special. It's just that the Iron gates act the same as the iron beams, but are taller, and can be embedded in the construction to hide them if you wanted. Allowing for that little bit extra if you wanna stretch your vertical height.
You can put iron gates inside of stone walls to build even higher from videos I've seen
@@GamingItOut Dude iron gates are significantly better than the beams. IIRC they can be stacked like 25 times and they are easy to clip inside of stone walls. Even two or three high greatly increases the build height for pure stone walls, which is great for chimneys. They also make a nice extra layer of security if you're building in the plains and don't want a moat, since once the wall piece is destroyed there's still iron gates blocking entry. So Fulings can't enter your build by breaking one stone wall piece. I was actually really surprised to see that you WEREN'T talking about gates in this video. :D
Build on trees 🌲
I'm triggered by watching all your wood rot uncovered under the rain that comes. That's a lot of repair clicks, rofl.
hahahaha yeah i gotta get the mod that prevents that
What about alternating stone and wood?
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not a bad idea! i know stone on wood will crumble pretty quick, but im not sure about stone on the iron beams... i'll have to check that out