Yeap, pretty much the non sense to which all this stereotyping leads. Everyone is a unique person, no one is a no-personality no-identity robot that can be classified into simplistic categories of the pop culture.
@@davideassis87 Notice how the examples they use in the video: Ben & Leslie from Parks and Recreation Dawson and Jen from Dawson’s Creek Jim & Pam from The Office Ross & Rachel from Friends All the women only started to show interest when the men stopped simping, showed some dignity, and walked away.
I personally don’t like the word simp, mainly cause some people will call someone simp just cause a guy or your own bf is nice to you and acts like a gentleman.
@@eduardopantoja9115 techinically yes. But nowadays it's being thrown around to anyone who is just being nice to women. That term, and "white knight" have become super overused, and no longer used in the appropriate context. I've noticed anytime someone calls out misogyny, they are either called a simp or a white knight. (the comments section of a lot of 2 and a half men clips, especially the ones that feature judith, are full of this)
@@ellybean7354 Yes, of course. That's how it happens in real life. If you like somebody and they like you back you'll gravitate towards each other without saying anything. Confessions work in movies only.
@@viharsarok My own experience can counter this. I spent a year in heartbreak because I believed if a man was interested, he'd probably confess first. Turns out we were both interested in each other, but past relationships discouraged him from seeking any more, and I didn't want to pursue him out of fear of making him uncomfortable (as people had done that to me in the past) nor lose the chances I had to talk to him without things becoming awkward (which I realize now to be a very unhealthy mentality). Thanks to a mutual friend who talked to both of us privately about it, we managed to get our feelings out in the open and make things work. Perhaps that's how it's been with some, but definitely not all. Making assumptions about how others feel, even those we consider close to us, can hurt them. There are a scary number of people who've believed others were in love with them, or could fall in love with them if they used the right tactics, and have instead harassed them unknowingly.
@@ElectricZoeEel What you're talking about does happen but as a general rule, if somebody is interested in you they will either approach you or make it particularly easy for you to approach them. It's that simple.
Unfortunately I was the female simp back in college but after being used and taken advantage of multiple times I finally learned my lesson. I will never beg a man to value me again.
I don't like these absolutely meaningless labels, but yeah, most often for most normal people "simp" is not a trait of character but a label that is limited to a precise context. I see such "simpy" behavior as a credit undeservedly gifted to the other as a positive basis for a potential relationship. We all have different personalities in different situations. You are not the same person at your job than you are at home or in some other place. Giving someone a very positive place from the get go in your interaction, gives them a positive role to instinctively adapt their personality to and with time to grow into making it their normal, thus becoming a better happier person in a long run. In other terms a positive perspective on you and a positive role given to you will not only validate and encourage you in the immediate but also stimulate your growth and happiness as a person in the long run. By contrast someone demanding, who has a critical and judgmental attitude and makes you feel on a constant toxic trial of either achieve this, be pretty, be this or that or become worthless to me and lose everything, will put your spirit down, will in a long run simply depress you, lower your self esteem and push you down into stagnation or decadence. It is wrong to think that someone has low self esteem just because he gifts you high credit. Neither does it mean that he doesn't see your other reality, hence the term "gift". In overall, I'd say that any simplistic label such as "simp", is solely based on a simplistic superficial external analysis of the situation that can cover many deeply different realities that in essence can go from crazy psycho stalker to smart relationship building. "“In the end, it is impossible not to become what others believe you are.” so let's believe in the best in each other :)
Dude...this one guy in highschool resubmitted my essay I sent him cuz he said it would ‘help him figure out the assignment’... and another in college was mooching notes ... The cringe behaviour ... the daddy issuessssss 😬
Simp has gotten thrown around so haphazardly. Like just being nice to a woman is not simp behavior it should be the norm Edit: thanks for the likes, mad incels before you comment let me clarify I'm an egalitarian and I think women, men, and other gender identities should all be nice to each other in general. Would lead to a society filled with more positive vibes, anyway hope anyone reading this is doing well!
Guys who use the slang vocabulary are so insecure that they can never comprehend the importance of a relationship as their only desire is to own and dominate the girl as a trophy or possession.
I don't use social media much but the only times I've seen the term being used is for guys who literally hand out hundreds of dollars at a moment's notice, and I don't mean to real friends going through difficult times needing economic assistance, I'm talking about women who just want nice things for free
There’s a difference between “having secret feelings for someone” and “doing literally anything for someone, putting them on a pedestal and coming on WAY too strong” I feel like Ben Wyatt can’t rly be seen as a simp, bc it’s normal for someone to dote on their partner. It’d be weird if he was going too far when they weren’t dating yet
Exactly, Ben and Leslie both liked each other and he was never going to ridiculous lengths for her before they got together. They both have a very equal and balanced relationship. He isn't a simp at ALL
I think he represents more the kind of men that are unfairly called simps by randos on the Internet that what simps were supposed to be in the first place.
@@filiaaut yeah but I don't think if you dote on your partner after you're together and their feelings are completely reciprocated for you it's really called simping.
@@Red_Hood514 haha, dude... you're the one being all weird about it. In my first coment, I was talking about the video... not the simp himself. I like their analysis. Then you come here like a fustrated, white, single cis gender male talking about dates and whatnot when we were clearly comenting on the quality of the video xD man just get a girl already, you almost look jalouse of a simp ^^"
I'm not entirely sure that quote highlights the whole idea of a simp though. Many times a simp is just a 'nice guy' who wants sex or a relationship and expects it because he is nice. So that quote works as long as you consider that the guy saying it is trying to say that he's not getting what he wants and therefore will stop caring about her.
@@haley5735 Morty is definitely a simp, totally and unwisely devoted to Jessica, but I wouldn't say he's the Nice Guy (tm) because he never gets angry at her for not meeting his expectations. However in the episode I quoted, Morty has a temporary bout of extreme clarity and self-awareness (brought about by some brain tech). He realizes suddenly what he's been doing and quits doing it. When the effects pass, he reverts to being pretty much the same simp as before. But yeah, the quote reflects the awareness that the typical simp lacks, and he says it in response to Jessica saying she misses him.
@@haley5735 I think the problem is that the line is kind of blurry in the nice guy/honest guy fenomena, IMO telling a girl you are not getting what you seek out of a relationship and opting out is mature behavior as long as you don't berate her or call her names. You present your feelings, wait for an answer and react accordingly, there is a lot of people, as the nice guy is not entitled to a relationship, the woman is not entitled to a friendship.
@@haley5735 ok , i think we need to define the term : a simp doesn't lowers guilt on the woman he simps for , he endures and endures a lot ending up in emberassing situations ... a nice guy on the other hand will call a woman a bitch and guilt her for not sleeping with him afther "courting" ... in short : the simp is locking itself in the room with you , while you get locked in the same room with the nice guy ...
@@davidegaruti2582 That definition is very well-thought out and it makes sense. However, there are many definitions of a what it means to be a simp on the Internet, and I follow a different definition than that. Many times, a simp is ostracized by their (usually male) friends and not by the girl, so yes, there would be no need for them to make her feel guilty for their own actions and the action of their friends. So generally, when the simp says 'please do this, please notice me' or whatever embarrassing thing they choose to do, it is going out of his way to bother the woman for something. That is the intersection, I believe, because simps can sometime harass women in the name of affection.
@@stellurwill7883 Er, here in case you missed it. v “Self-esteem is what we think and feel and believe about ourselves. Self-worth is recognizing ‘I am greater than all of those things.’ It is a deep knowing that I am of value, that I am loveable, necessary to this life, and of incomprehensible worth.”
The fact simp ended up being used against men who are just supporting women to defer them from doing so really says something about how society thinks women should and shouldn’t be treated...
The guys who say this only view male-female relations through a sexual lens. So if you support a woman, you must be trying to fuck her. A few years ago the term was "white knight", but I guess society has moved on.
@David Van Siclen it’s one thing to give without expectation because you are sincerely wanting to make a person happy. It’s another thing to “give” with a hidden agenda and hidden intention of wanting something to exchange for it. Because then in the end you’re only going to blame yourself and the other for not satisfy your own selfish expectation.
@@summerhoang What would you say if the person who receives said help is better off than the people supporting her, doesn't work, specifically targets emotionally weak men and deceives them by faking a personal connection and gratitude with her followers? Just for the record, I'm not the incel type, I'm a man and I've been in a happy relationship with another man for five years, but I do see a recent trend where influencers (I'm using a very loose definition) adopt the same business model as content creators , but instead of giving things like early access or even mentioning their names, they commoddify the very celebrity/fan relation, feeding their affection-starved fans with false hope.
@@Toshimi1043 There are slight variations to the terms. Especially literally 😂. But yes, recently they have all become conflated by bozos who wan to show how "alpha" they are. There ARE simps, cucks and white knights in the world, no denying that. But there are as many wannabe "alphas" who think any act of decency is a sign of inferiority.
I've literally heard men call each other "Simp" over just saying Hi to a woman, or complimenting them for.... anything really! It's disgusting, it's sexist, and it's stupid. It's like these men expect that the only way to NOT be a "Simp" is to be Abusive! ... like... WHAT IS THAT?!
that's the problem with buzzwords. in the rush to use them and be cool for doing so, many don't take the time to use them correctly. it's like a toddler showing off what they heard on the playground.
my husband was carrying groceries into our apartment and one Woman hater neighbor called him a "simp" I mean SMH! He is my husband, we been married for over 20 years. Really?
Exactly, not all nice guys are cut from the same cloth, and are friendly simply because they like the girl's company, and not because of some hopeless crush. 🥰❣️
It depends on how you define "confidence". For most people "confidence" is to act as you're not insecure about anything and such behavior can be followed by arrogance and even toxicity most of the time. For me "confidence" is to accept yourself while doing your best despite your insecurities. This can even lead you to self-improvement, because you're being honest with yourself. This is what I love the most on someone, waaay more than the popular definition.
I think one reason why the word simp has made such a comeback is the increasing importance of parasocial relationships created through social media and employed for financial gain. While acting 'simplike' for a women you really know is not ideal, it is not totally bad and might actually lead somewhere sometimes. 'Simping' about an online persona, however, that is created specifically to benefit financialy from this, is more kin to a dangerous pathology or addiction and can be damaging to a person.
In fact, I am now self aware that I have spent most of my life as one! Crazy stuff. Luckily I've grown past it on my own...but man having seen this video 10 years ago would have saved me so much money! I concur it is almost exactly like a fetish as the one sided affection somehow eventually becomes a turn on. Even KNOWING the persona is only looking for money doesn't help.....because at its psychological worst. THAT becomes a turn on! How do I know......been there. And had no Idea the term SIMP even existed until I watched this video.
For me, simp means someone who is completely and unreasonably infatuated with someone that doesn't reciprocate their feelings- (the way people are in love with K-pop or Harry styles for example - yes their great artists, but they don't even know you exist) not when a man does the bare minimum to show respect for a woman. It's ridiculous how people misuse this term. Edit: Some people are pointing out how the examples I mentioned are a depiction of parasocial relationships and they’re right. It’s just the first example that came to mind but yall get my meaning. This whole video did a really good job of providing other examples and dissecting the trope.
I think that the K-pop and Harry styles examples you gave are considered as parasocial relationships... when I think about it, parasocial relationships are a form of simping, so yeah.
My GF lives hairy style so much. She even started a harry styles fan club in high school (Japanese always have school clubs they are forced to join or make) When harry rumours of him and Olivia Wilde dating started happening she was depressed for a week. Not even a joke. Lmao
As you get older you learn to not idolise women upon superficial beauty. Having a cute partner won't make your life happier. Knowing yourself better and making sure you are on the right path it will. Embrace who you are and you will appear more interesting to the right target.
90% of women’s attractiveness can be gone with a wet wipe! That’s why I never subscribed to “ out of your league” bs, unless she is a model in prime early / 20s, 8s become 4s and 5s...
Agreed. From what I have seen, it is predominantly used by little insecure boys who believe any form of kindness(support, a compliment, defending) a man shows towards women is wrong/beta behaviour and therefore he must be a simp. I roll my eyes so hard whenever I see this happening and its immediately a turn off.🤢
@@msgirly6827 I know, right? It's men policing each other to make sure that other men treat women just as badly as they do. I think that's why guys can be hesitant to admit to being feminists; because the moment they do, a dozen other guys pounce on them and declare them to be a 'simp' or a 'beta'. There's a real competitiveness between guys, a constant jostling for status, and it sucks. You end up with guys who are ashamed to express emotions or vulnerability, and who treat women like trash. Feminism focuses heavily on women's issues, and that's a good thing, because the patriarchy hurts women far more than it hurts men (though nobody escapes unharmed, really). But I think there should also be more of a push to get guys interested, tell them that listening to and respecting women doesn't make them weak, because there's a lot of pressure from other guys to treat women as badly as they do or they'll get shamed and ridiculed. Also, dismissing the 'alpha'/'beta' myth would be good too (which is really just a distinction used to champion toxic masculinity), and explaining that emotional vulnerability is acceptable, etcetera.
The Evil Girlfriend/Boyfriend trope pls! At the end the guy/girl will end up with the main character and dump their idk 5 years partner bcs of this new girl who suddenly change their life. Wow.
Also, how the girl is always with some guy who treats her like crap so we, as the audience, are set up to be perfectly ok with her cheating or entertaining the other love interest.
@@moonlitebrite9317 Yeah there are and it's great if someone is being supportive and encourages the MC to stand up for themselves when this happens but in TV/movies/books that's not what they do. The "good spouse /girlfriend" doesn't leave their partner because they are bad people, even if they are, but rather because someone else shows interest in them. It's almost implied that they would've left their partner for the other person no matter what but it's ok bc the partner is mean
My husband was called a simp by his customers when he mentioned that I had dropped him off at work so I could go see a movie only I wanted to see and was going to pick him up when he got off of work. Lol it really confused us when he was called that because literally we just thought that we were being independent individuals but considerate of each other's plans that day
this movie was not very well put together, i dont like how they put laurie from little women on here either, a simp is a dude who is a literal SLAVE to a girl, gatsby is the perfect example, he uprooted his whole entire life and became a slave to daisy who in the end didnt love him. Laurie, tom (from 500 days) romeo... these guys arent simps, simply being a male w an unrequited love DOES NOT make a simp. Laurie confessed to jo, she said no and he was forced to move on, tom DID misread his relationship w summer, HOWEVR they WERE IN FACT IN A RELATIONSHIP! At the very least a sexual relationship or FWB he wasnt simping for her. ppl throw the term simp around so tonedeaf
As a dude, I've never been a fan of the phrase simply because people use it in such an overarching way. The other day my buddy said we couldn't hangout cuz he's having movie night with his gf and joked that he was a "simp" for doing so. I just rolled my eyes.🙄 EDIT: Just to be clear, I'm not mad at him spending time with his gf. I'm just annoyed that people think something like that is considered "simping."
@@mrtyrant1680 Absolutely. The terms are mutually exclusive. A simp is defined by desperately trying to get into a relationship. A person already in a relationship can never be a simp.
@@matunusdonnerhammer3423 IKR I was watching a clip of Up the other day, and somebody in the comment section was saying something about how Carl was doing something great to honor his wife Ellie, and of course somebody called Carl a simp.
@@kittykittybangbang9367 Than that person doesn't know the meaning of the word simp. A married simp makes about as much sense as an adult baby, a vegan carnivore, chaste porn or an intelligent Trump supporter.
I don't consider Laurie from Little Women a simp. Jo never likes Laurie romantically but Laurie's love extends to Jo's family as well. He isn't nice to the March sisters just because of Jo, he is friends with all of them. More importantly, he is willing to move on when he is rejected.
@Ciara Milne true, but he didn't keep trying to convince her to marry him. He didn't take her rejection well though, not because he's a 'simp', but because he's heart broken.
@Ciara Milne That isn't simping. People can be depressed after rejection without being a simp. He'd have been a simp if he continued to hang around her hoping she would change her mind.
@semi I seen it so much in ‘fake engagement’ or ‘contract marriage’. They get together, for whatever reason, state not to fall in love and be professional, but low and behold they both end up falling in love (after some denial or tempting first).
A simp who isn't a sycophant isn't a simp. Please don't conflate the nerdy "good man" with the simp "nice guy". Being a simp is not a character trait to be aspired to because at it's core it involves a lack of self respect. Characters who have self respect or eventually learn it are not simps.
So surprised to see Ben Wyatt included here, he is one of the best representations of a supportive and loving partner on TV, and it’s completely reciprocated. He and Leslie are a power couple. Also, Ben stands his ground with her many times, including the introduction of his character as one of the state auditors, Leslie calls him “mean Ben” for just doing his job. Then after they split up to avoid a scandal during Leslie’s campaign, he stands his ground about not being able to spend time with Leslie while she keeps trying to find new projects for the two of the them (Chris’s ‘dynamic duo’) to keep working on just to spend more time with him even though they’ve broken up. Ben is so far from a simp.
So well said!! Ben isn't a simp because firstly his feelings are 100% reciprocated and also he makes all those big gestures for her after they start dating, he's not doing that stuff to woo her or win her over, but because he genuinely wants to. It might have been considered simp-like if he'd been making big gestures for her before they were together. Also he's one of the most adorable characters I've ever seen.🥰
@@obsessivefangirl5055 Very key point about him doing that stuff *after* they start dating. It stops when they break up for the campaign, which he sticks to despite Leslie trying to find ways to prolong their involvement in parks department projects, and then starts up again when they’re back together and eventually married. And he gets all the same back from Leslie who is a huge giver. He also doesn’t go easy on Leslie when they’re back together and he takes over as her campaign manager - e.g. running a negative campaign ad against Bobby Newport which they clash over before reaching a compromise. Also agreed, he’s just super adorable all around!
@@withinwithout6263 yesss! That negative ad example is spot on. Also there was an episode in s6 as well where they disagree about something and have a hilarious fight which ends with them both standing in a freezing fountain🤣. Either way Ben holds his ground against Leslie many times and doesn't always go along with what she says.
reminds me of the ending in Tangled "And after years of asking and asking...I finally said yes." "Eugene..." "Alright. I asked her. :))" not only did he propose to her multiple times but they're one of the healthiest, supportive relationships in their tvshow 👍
He never explicitly said he asked her several times, that years and years bit could have just been part of his joke...I mean otherwise he'd just have been settled for eventually, and woman couldn't respect a guy who'd been orbiting her for that long right?
“What’s a simp?” *Intellectual Brain:* A man who defends a woman regardless if they are correct or not for the sake of her approval or affection. *Meme Brain:* SQUIRRELS IN MY PANTS!
It doesn’t mean the same thing. Simp was a slang word before, but the way Phoebe used means a general sucker or gullible idiot. This SIMP used in the video is from a misappropriated slang term from AAVE that has been around for over 30 years.
@@luisalejandro2335 Google it. Like everyone was not using simp for a guy kissing up to a girl until Black folks on Twitter started using it like a lot of the Internet slang you know.
@@yvannab.1260 It was used by blk people long before the hip-hop group added it into their song, which was how it made it into the song. On the streets it meant "Sucker for mediocre pu**y." It was actually used since the 1920s.
I know, poor Gunther. The Take explained in their "Gunther analysis" from a few years back that he could have just spared himself from A LOT of pain and heartache by confessing his crush on Rachel earlier, and move on with someone else, and not waste his time on a hopeless crush. 💔😿
@@kingdomhreats23 Er, what is wrong with that it's their money, they can do whatever they want with it. I'm sorry, but this just comes across as an insidious way to stigmatize sex work and/or cam girl profession.
The feminine men are not seen desirable, unless they are at peak of Financial or artistic success. This has nothing to do with how society sees women, it simply a projection of what's deemed desirable in popular culture and it's always a hyper masculine guy.
@Ru paul it's not that she needs to "deal with it".. She's just taking offense to something that has nothing to do with her being a woman or how they are seen.
Unpopular Opinion: I actually never really shipped Duckie with Andie in "Pretty in Pink". He acts EXTREMELY petty and condescending, even going as far as stalking her, which DEFINITELY would not fly in a "Me Too" era. At one point, he refers to Andie's boyfriend Blaine as "An electrical appliance", and acts as though he "deserves" Andie, as though she's a possession, and not a human being. 🙄🤦🏻♀️
I heard that the original ending was Andie and Duckie getting together, but audiences HATED that, so she got with Blaine, so I don't think it's an unpopular opinion in the slightest. Lol Edit: Added Blaine's name.
Duckie is just a boy in conflict with himself, he really loves Andie, but he's childish and doesn't know how to demonstrate, don't blame he so much, it's normal
@@brendon1441 stalking is not normal. Edit: He also acts like he knows Andie's feelings and intentions better than herself. That should not be encouraged or overlooked.
Exactly what I was gonna say!! Like duh find me a guy in real life who's as supportive of his gf/wife the way Ben is towards Leslie, I'll happily marry him! Plus Simps are people whose love isn't reciprocated. In Ben's case, Leslie felt the same about him too!
The simp problem is often the opposite of entitlement- they don't see their needs as equal, they don't see themselves as entitled to the same level of commitment they are offering. They do these grand things for women, but never expect the same in return. The real tragedy of this behaviour is women find it incredibly unattractive. The only women you'll succeed with, offering this behaviour, are narcissists. Women often do this too, but, as the video says, it's seen as more socially acceptable. People will tell you entitlement is a terrible thing, but you are entitled to respect, and (within a relationship) commitment and affection.
Yes, so shocked to see Ben Wyatt used here. He is just a great partner to Leslie, supporting her when she’s going up against challenges, and Leslie does the same for him. They certainly clash a lot when Ben’s character is introduced with the gov auditing storyline and Ben stands his ground when Leslie keeps trying to spend time with him after they breakup for her campaign. The use of him in this video is completely out of place.
@@withinwithout6263 I'd consider Morty Smith from Rick and Morty a Simp but I guess they chosed Ben Wyatt to make simps look good. (Ben Wyatt is not a Simp)
Ben totally is not a simp lol, he and Leslie were into eachother, and he realized that they needed to break up because of her running for city council. They had a great relationship, loved them.
Moral of the story: If you like someone tell them! If they reciprocate yeah!!! If not move on. It's might be harsh but it will save you time and heartache in the long run!
There’s a guy who simps over me and the main reason it annoys me is because I know he’ll never see me as a person. He wants me to be the empty vessel that he can project fantasies onto. That’s it.
But that is what you are. And so is he. You think that you know the truth of this person as you described. You never considered that is just your imagined version of him, just as he imagined you, and neither of you know the others true self.
@kaylaNoelle1 I used to think the same way when I was younger too. Big mistake. The guy sees you as a person, our society has taught a lot of these men they have to "earn" their chance with you. Especially if they aren't popular or have a certain look. I wish I could go back & have some of those guys from my youth who were "simps" for me. A much better deal than I got from the bad boys. Hell, at least they cared about me.
@@cinemathequerouge317 Life isn't that black and white where a man is either a bad boy or a nice guy. Just because I don't like being reduced to some guy's fantasy doll with no soul or personality of my own doesn't mean I like bad boys. Bad boys are entirely too much work lol, I'd be exhausted. My boyfriend does a lot of things that many other men would consider to be "simping" the difference is that he values my REAL personality instead of projecting fantasies of who he wants me to be onto me. The guy who simps over me doesn't want to actually get to know me very well because it could shatter this fake perfect version of me that he's created in his mind. I'm not a human being to him. That's a fact. He hears me swear and he says "you don't swear??" yes I do but apparently that doesn't fit his fantasy version of me. He sees me try out a new trend and he says "You don't wear things like that??" YES, I DO but he doesn't care what I actually do or how I actually feel. Meanwhile, my boyfriend sees me try a new trend and he says "Oh that's not something you'd usually wear, but I like it! How do you feel in it?" He expects me to grow and change and surprise him because he sees me as a person and not some static fake character he's concocted in his head. That's why people don't like simps, they reduce living breathing human beings into poetic concepts and mannequins and dolls.
Ben Wyatt is an example of a guy you want to grow up to be like lol. He's comfortable with who he is, and he isn't threatened or frustrated by Leslie's accomplishments. A simp is someone who is in love with an idea, not a person.
Its good that people learn this terms. Teenagers generally imitate what's shown in movies in relationship. But in reality that's what simp is all about. Be yourself, enjoy your life and the right girl will find you. That's all it takes for a good relationship.
"The Simp" can fall hand in hand with the "Dogged Nice Guy." They are persistent in trying to woo the girl of their dreams, even if they're not really romantically interested in them. It's best to just move on, and find someone who DOES like them. 💞
But sometimes i think that the "simp" try to do something good for the people around him , but the "Nice guy" only is selfish and never thinks about the others , even though the "simps" do somethings bads
I think simps don't necessarily even believe they can get the girl. To me it sounds more like the simps just have the dream of "oh but what if..." but never act on it more than being kind, which just ends up hurting themselves more than anyone else. Gunther is a good example. And Ross was like that too at first. Nice Guys are inconsiderate and persistent, like Ted, that believe their crush should be with them because they love the girl and would "treat them right", so why is the girl being stubborn for not being with them.
I feel like the reason by people recoil at the simp isn’t because his a bad guy but because his love feels like puppy affection than real genuine attraction. (OMG-Thanks guys this is the most likes I ever received thanks you so much 😅🙏🏿 👍🏻 I hope everyone has a good day)
@@iamV10010 But most people who are in that state of mind see the fantasy version rather than the reality version. When you first fall in love or in crush you don't immediately see the "real" person, you instantly see the more romanticized version of a person.
@smartass 012. Nobody said generally being nice is bad. Being decent and nice is good. Its when the niceness comes with hidden expectations that theres an issue. Like, the guys who'll be a friend, and be kind - right up to the point a girl isnt romantically or sexually interested. And who then claims to have been badly treated because a girl being friendly and a guy being nice OBVIOUSLY means shes obliged to sleep with him...... that's what's meant by the Nice Guy trope. Nobody has any issues with people who are genuinely nice, and don't assume that niceness and friendship entitles them to sexual favours. Stay nice and decent, my friend. We respect you for it.
Speaking of 'simp,' when I was growing up, my mother was telling me how we should not be overly cruel to men who are 'simps.' Because she said if you kept being overtly mean, you may end up with the 'simp.' And this actually came true. In HS, there was this boy who's thoroughly a 'simp' for my friend. He would just follow her around like a puppy and be super-duper accomodating/nice toward her, and she didn't like him that way, very openly refused him. She told everyone how she thought he was not attractive to her and she was very clear that she didn't like him. But he didn't give up. He was that person who just latched on and wouldn't let go. He even applied and got accepted to the same university as she did (which was a tad odd because her parents sent her to study abroad and he got so many options but he chose her university choice). Guess what, to everyone's shock, she actually got married to him, around ten years after we all graduated HS. They're still married now, they have 2 kids. Now they kind of rewrote their story, she would tell people (who don't know) that they were best friends from HS, which was totally so far from the truth.
I feel like taking issue with that use of the shot from Kick-Ass, especially paired with the phrase "he deserves love." That change from the book to the movie really angered me because I felt he didn't deserve that kiss. The violence he took part in to earn the kiss in the movie was horrific. In the book, the third act is quite different and I felt the shift to a Hollywood-style story made the story seem reprehensible to me.
I was reading a manhwa about a guy protecting a girl from a serial killer and the comments were always just from boys calling him a simp.... like okayyy
Ben is not a simp, just because he's not the most masculine guy ever doesn't make him automathically a simp. Also, it's really funny that you said 'Women who don't feel the same way even if they wanted to' and decided to show Daisy from the Great Gatsby. She never tried to love anyone, she just did what she found the most profitable for her.
Also Ben is not a simp because Simps don't have their feelings reciprocated by the person they like. This was not the case with Ben. Either way, he's one of the healthiest male characters ever written on tv.
Though I'm a female, I too had simped hard for men in the past only to realize that I was completely wrapped in a fantasy that I knew was never going to reflect reality. It went so deep I didn't even end up confessing my feelings for fear of brekaing the fantasy from being rejected
@@nagisa0931 It's short for "involuntarily celibate." It's a term used by (typically straight) men who self-identify as such and blame their situation on the women who spurned them because they feel entitled to romance and sex. The stereotype of self-proclaimed incels, though, is that they are often dorky and unattractive, and that is why women spurn them.
@@inkwisitive That's the worry though, the simp will experience so many failures and decide women are to blame- after all, he's done everything for them and only been rejected.
@@teacoffee42 That's fair. I remember a BBC program that interviewed a number of self-identified incels and, while one was pretty awful and enjoyed catfishing women and videoing it, another was very thoughtful and simply drew solace from being part of an online community
@@ruchimeghwal910 He’s the most insulted character in the squad just because he is not as physically attractive as Amy and Rosa, charming as Jake, strong as Terry, charismatic as Holt, overtly comical as Hitchcock and Scully or completely unique like Gina. He’s mediocre at best but that’s why he’s my most favorite because he is so relatable.
@@nont18411 i think he has his unique charm! he's also my second favourite character because he's genuinely so sweet. my first is amy, mainly because i totally relate to her nerdy studious side and i have a crush on her. i generally like characters who go out of their way to be kind, which is why amy and charles are my favourites! i feel like the fact that charles is genuinely such a heartwarming kind person gets overlooked a lot because he comes across as a bit intense, but i think that's what makes him stand out. i love all his quirks even though they can be a bit weird!
@@ruchimeghwal910 I understand why two most favorite characters of the whole fanbase are Amy and Rosa. Both of them represent inspirational strong Latina ladies in the male-centric society. Not to mention that both Melissa and Stephanie are very beautiful and sexy. That’s why a lot of male audience like them. Boyle, on the other hand, looks exactly like an average Joe (and somehow his actor is a guy name Joe) you can find on the street or in office everyday. But that’s what makes him special, at least for me. Terry said in the Pilot that Boyle is the grinder, the hardest worker of them all. He is also very compassionate to the people he cares about like Jake or most importantly, Nikolaj. Which makes him a great role model in a realistic way for us common people.
Boyle is actually pathetic, he is kind but that's not what we mean by pathetic. He was a simp for Rosa, for his ex wife, and he is still simping for Jake, he is indeed pathetic.
A simp doesn't retain the nice qualities of being a simp, but rather he transforms into what's know as being a "gentleman" who knows how to treat women nicely and with respect. A good example of what this video could have used of what a simp could aspire to would be a character like Marshal from HIMYM. On the surface you could see some of his behaviour as simping for Lilly, but it's not true. Sure he loves brunch, making sappy love songs for his wife, going to musicals and likes being romantic, but he's so secure in his manhood that he never get's bothered by anyone who would make fun of him about it. Marshal is able to achieve this because he's such a multifaceted man which is what gives him self confidence and self respect. He can play piano, he's athletic (was a slam dunk champion in high school), he's a lawyer and he cares about the environment. He's also in every respect of the word a Gentleman when it comes to women. Sure he high fives his buddies when they get laid, but deep down he's a relationship guy who cares deeply for his wife. Put this all together and he's a guy who actually has something to offer women, unlike his simp counterpart in Ted who, while being an architect (which is interesting) doesn't have much else going for him aside from being a hopeless romantic. Most of the simps in this video don't have much going for them aside for their love to whichever women they pine after.
My problem with this term. Is the simp only treat women with kindness. Making women look like special little kinds. Why don't these men show this same exact kindness to other men? The simp opens the door for that pretty girl because you just wanna smash or be in a relationship I don't know. But the simp wouldn't the door for men or unattractive women. The problem I have with these men is their kindness is usually one-sided and usually has an agenda behind it. They would be indifferent or mean towards men and unattractive women. But automatically change to a super simp once a pretty woman walks into the room. Who is a complete stranger they don't know? Any treat her like a princess. You shouldn't give the bare minimum of kindness or more to just one particular hot woman stranger. You give the bare minimum of kindness to everybody. Open the door everybody. Don't have a fake nice guy motive for opening the door. Be nice to everybody, not just attractive women.
@@markstriker925 Agreed with all of this, especially the part about how they become super simps when an attractive woman walks in and treating her like a princess. I'd say they're nice to hot women mostly because they want to smash and not because they want to be in a relationship. They pine after these women and put them on a pedestal because they think it's the only way to get that kind of woman to like them. Also because those kinds of woman aren't usually attracted to simps.
Whenever I have a friend acting like a SIMP I would do my joker impression and say: "if you're going to put someone on a pedestal... they're going to naturally look DOWN AT YOU"... I'm not crazy I'm just ahead of the curve
Simp is an Internet slang term, used pejoratively for someone (usually male who is seen as using excessive sympathy and attention toward another person (usually female) in order to win their affection, sometimes in pursuit of a sexual relationship. Urban Dictionary defines a simp as "someone who does way too much for a person they like".Simp can also be used as behaviors being referred to as simping
Not sure if the simp is a separated trope from the nice guy , besides there is a diference between a guy who goes after a girl that intentionaly leads them on (because there are girls who do that, i know some) with a guy who feels entitled to a woman or is a creppy stalker.Edit: I hate how Game of Thores adapted Ser Jorah, someone read his character in the books ,who is a creppy old man kissing a 14 year old without consent and being completely entitled, not even apologizing for lying to her and they though "AWW POOR JORAH, HE IS SO NICE" and made him a simp so the audience would hate Dany (keep in mind: maybe the only woman in Westeros who has a say about her consort)
Jesus, the women who intentionaly lead is so true. Years ago I had to deal with a girl who scold me for "not trying hard enough to win her", even though she literally told me she was not interested in me from the get-go, but apparently I needed to ignore that and just keep trying. People be crazy I swear, lol.
I don't think Ross was a simp. His desire to be with Rachel wasn't unrequited, Rachel just didn't know how he felt. But when Chandler let it slip that Ross was in love with her, she wanted to be with him. If Chandler had told Rachel that Ross was in love with her, and Rachel was disinterested, I think Ross would have moved on with his life like he always does. He only kept the pursuit because he knew that she loved him as much as he loved her. Also Ross didn't keep pining for Rachel when he couldn't be with her. He's always moved on from her and dated other women and even got married again after her.
@@signalfire15 i agree with some points , like he always tried move on for her and date women , she didn't do the same thing and she keeps him around a lot of times , but he is a simp for always try to do anything for women ( especially Rachel ) and a lot of these women ( especially Rachel ) are not worth it , so he stiil a simp
@@jennerick92jm no , he actually is "in a toxic relationship" with Rachel during 10 seasons and 236 episodes , when he is far from her he actually did nothing , even not being a simp
Yeah, I really don’t think Jorah Mormont qualifies as a simp. His “relationship” with Daenerys always struck me as more emblematic of the courtly love tradition, where a man knows from the outset that a woman is unattainable yet still holds her in high regard and strives to be worthy of her affections.
In the books, Jorah is way more foward and even harassed her at times. (In the books he's a descontruction of the courtly love.) In the show, it's played straight.
I used to be a simp. Then I stopped taking SRI’s. I’m very embarrassed about my “less desirable years.” But now I don’t feel sorry for myself anymore and look forward to the future. Now I want to be someone desirable instead of aimlessly desiring others.
@@Dauerglotzer123 it’s so much more complicated than that. By the second reaping Katniss had already fallen in love with him, the trauma that they had gone through made them become closer to each other. Haymitch couldn’t have protected her in the games, plus, who wouldn’t volunteer to save a loved one? In the books his family was abusive to him, and practically abandoned him after his first games, his family was Katniss, Haymitch and maybe Delly.
I think the biggest female simps have to be Sakura and Hinata from Naruto. It's surprising and sad that these two characters are from the same series, but I think it speaks volumes about how female characters are perceived in shonen manga/anime. The idea that women should pine over a guy without asking anything in return or lose any ounce of self-respect even after that the male characters tried to killed and any interaction she has had with them was deeming and humiliating . Even though Naruto was never malicious in ignoring Hinata's feelings the fact that she pines for him for a year, she should realized he looks at as a friend and nothing and being okay with that (the fact that their "romance" had to happen in a movie long after the series ended really just effort cash in on the popularity of the manga and the fact that Naruto needed to be hallucinating to realized Hinata's feelings and reciprocating, is laughable). And to portrayed said relationships between these characters as healthy even as they became married couples are unrealistic and dangerous (Sasu/Saku and Naru/Hina are terrible parents in their respective way that hasn't change even if they have confronted about it by their own kids)
Dude shonen male characters are almost always oblivious to the feelings of female friends around them. It annoys me af, so much so that I wish there wouldn't be any romance in whatever shonen manga I pick up.
@@aenirrinea523 right, like if you are not going to do it correctly, then do not do it. I think it hurts the impressionable reader's perception of what romance should look like
@@93abc123 yeah and people act like it's was a great anime romance, I was like, "They interact maybe five times in 700+ chapters and every time he says anything to her she blushes and then faints." I really think there was one good relationship in that whole show.
Simp is definitely real but overused. I am glad you all said that the word "simp" is also being thrown at men who simply respect women. I am black and in our community, if a man says he respects and is faithful to his wife or girlfriend, and even supports his daughters, its not uncommon to see men call him a simp. For not being a harsh "alpha male".
There’s another factor: even if the simp develops confidence and shows a stronger persona, if the girl isn’t attracted to him physically, it really doesn’t matter. Some simps can go with it without changing because they’re attractive (which rarely happens). It’s just men in love with toxic relationships were they need someone “superior” they can look up to. They don’t want equals they want idols. Maybe it’s an unsolved mom-son issue there.
I agree with this. Attraction is a too way street. Some men don't realize this because we're so taught from the young age and gaslighted that with 'confidence' a man can become more attractive. When a guy is insecure about his attractiveness like him being skinny, fat, short etc. people will tell him 'just be more confident' as if it's the be-all-end-all solution to everything and that their insecurities don't matter at all. It helps, but in the end there needs to be some physical attraction. Some men take this to heart and becomes a simp. Funny thing is that a lot of 'simp' I know is pretty average looking and some have the potential to be good looking, but they just don't put effort into appearance maybe besides lifting a couple of times a week or at least have shit taste in fashion. Us men don't really have the crutch of make up so yeah that kinda sucks. Also I wouldn't say they're looking or someone 'superior'. Most of the simps are genuinely infatuated by the girl but he doesn't respect himself enough or not socially competent enough to know when to back up and when to stop tolerating disrespect.
@semi IKR. Its like, "Gay people create problems for themselves, we are absolutely innocent!" However, Gay Bullies do exist. But not every homophobic Bully is secretly gay. That's the point.
Yes, I completely concur! The whole "Homophobic Bully who picks on Openly Gay Kid because they're secretly gay themselves, and have a crush on them" is getting very overplayed now. This doesn't happen AS much in real life, and some key examples of it in fiction would be Karofsky and Kurt from "Glee", or Adam and Eric from "Sex Education."
Wish you’d used Frasier content a bit more. It goes into how Niles’ idolisation of Daphne starts to harm their relationship once they become an item. How she puts on weight and he has to realise how she’s not able to match up.
IMO seeing how simp is the go to insult that incels and MRAs use on other men just takes them venom from the word. It takes a very sad man to be a incel or MRA, so if they insult you for not being like them, take it as a complement.
The thing is: Ben from Parks and Rec isn't a simp at all. He is exactly how someone in a healthy relationship and marriage should act. He never pursued an uninterested Leslie relentlessly. From the start the two were into each other but never acted on anything. They both liked each other and from then on began a very balanced, healthy, equal relationship which is how it should work! I absolutely love Ben, he is always so kind, loving, respectful, and supportive which is how a relationship should be.
I don't know you, but I just love a man that doesn't behave like the stereotypical man: he can be sweet, believes in equality, and it's not afraid to push away his proud to be honest and accept his flaws.
@@ashleightompkins3200 They don’t self identify as virgins so there’s no way to know that they are incels. Virginity is literally the main characteristic of an incel. They’re very toxic obviously but I don’t feel like it fits
@@Andyatl2002 And that's what incels believe they are but their behaviour is tainted with the idea of being so nice that any woman they set eyes on should fall at their feet from the first hello.
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i didn’t realize that simp was a term that’s been around for so long
IRunWithVampires101 Ikr? Lol
Yeah. I only know about it for three months or so.
Yeah I know right
Well, the term "Simp" has only been popularised in recent years, but I've mainly heard it referred to as "The Dogged Nice Guy Gimmick".
Me neither
I complimented a woman’s smile on a video and got called out as being a simp. I’m a married woman lol
Its literally so dumb💀
Lol that's really sad
Simp has basically just replaced white knight on the internet. Casual sexism at it's finest.
Yeap, pretty much the non sense to which all this stereotyping leads. Everyone is a unique person, no one is a no-personality no-identity robot that can be classified into simplistic categories of the pop culture.
What a simp
The difference between a simp and success is self respect and the willingness to walk away. It’s that simple.
But, if the simp has self repect and is willing to walk away. They wouldn't be a simp. They would be a man or woman with a strong center.
Amen, brother! Be willing to accept a "no" and move on is key to almost everything in life.
It's that SIMPle I'll just see myself out 😉
@@rosshenderson2940 uhh yes... hence the “difference” between a simp and someone successful lol
@@davideassis87 Notice how the examples they use in the video:
Ben & Leslie
from Parks and Recreation
Dawson and Jen
from Dawson’s Creek
Jim & Pam
from The Office
Ross & Rachel
from Friends
All the women only started to show interest when the men stopped simping, showed some dignity, and walked away.
I personally don’t like the word simp, mainly cause some people will call someone simp just cause a guy or your own bf is nice to you and acts like a gentleman.
Yeah it needs to be retired. Nobody likes being called one and it just promotes misogyny.
I thought a simp was someone who acts like a "nice guy"
@@haley5735 with that additude you can convince more people to use the word. I didn't want to use it but now you convinced me
@@eduardopantoja9115 techinically yes. But nowadays it's being thrown around to anyone who is just being nice to women. That term, and "white knight" have become super overused, and no longer used in the appropriate context. I've noticed anytime someone calls out misogyny, they are either called a simp or a white knight. (the comments section of a lot of 2 and a half men clips, especially the ones that feature judith, are full of this)
Me neither. I got called a simp just for talking to someone.
Always risk rejection. The sooner they say no the sooner you can move on.
If you have to confess you already know the answer. Why bother?
@@viharsarok What? Are you saying people just "know" they love each other and can get together without ever actually saying it?
@@ellybean7354 Yes, of course. That's how it happens in real life. If you like somebody and they like you back you'll gravitate towards each other without saying anything. Confessions work in movies only.
@@viharsarok My own experience can counter this. I spent a year in heartbreak because I believed if a man was interested, he'd probably confess first. Turns out we were both interested in each other, but past relationships discouraged him from seeking any more, and I didn't want to pursue him out of fear of making him uncomfortable (as people had done that to me in the past) nor lose the chances I had to talk to him without things becoming awkward (which I realize now to be a very unhealthy mentality). Thanks to a mutual friend who talked to both of us privately about it, we managed to get our feelings out in the open and make things work.
Perhaps that's how it's been with some, but definitely not all. Making assumptions about how others feel, even those we consider close to us, can hurt them. There are a scary number of people who've believed others were in love with them, or could fall in love with them if they used the right tactics, and have instead harassed them unknowingly.
@@ElectricZoeEel What you're talking about does happen but as a general rule, if somebody is interested in you they will either approach you or make it particularly easy for you to approach them. It's that simple.
Twitch is having a heart attack watching this video
Pog
Lol. They wouldnt watch it
XD
twitch was a mistake
Not everyone on twitch is a simp for ladies showing barely TOS breaking content. Some twitch users are respectable
Gatsby is one of the most famous Simps in literary history
Thank you, F Scott Fitzgerald.
@Akshay 786 As in don't be an insecure man that made his fortune through stocks and bootlegging while pining for a married woman?
What the....? Did he succeed in alcohol stocks at least??
Him and Cyrano De Bergerac. I'm surprised that they didn't mention him.
@@juanmanuelpenaloza9264 hey, what did Scott Fitzgerald do???
Unfortunately I was the female simp back in college but after being used and taken advantage of multiple times I finally learned my lesson. I will never beg a man to value me again.
I don't like these absolutely meaningless labels, but yeah, most often for most normal people "simp" is not a trait of character but a label that is limited to a precise context. I see such "simpy" behavior as a credit undeservedly gifted to the other as a positive basis for a potential relationship. We all have different personalities in different situations. You are not the same person at your job than you are at home or in some other place. Giving someone a very positive place from the get go in your interaction, gives them a positive role to instinctively adapt their personality to and with time to grow into making it their normal, thus becoming a better happier person in a long run. In other terms a positive perspective on you and a positive role given to you will not only validate and encourage you in the immediate but also stimulate your growth and happiness as a person in the long run. By contrast someone demanding, who has a critical and judgmental attitude and makes you feel on a constant toxic trial of either achieve this, be pretty, be this or that or become worthless to me and lose everything, will put your spirit down, will in a long run simply depress you, lower your self esteem and push you down into stagnation or decadence. It is wrong to think that someone has low self esteem just because he gifts you high credit. Neither does it mean that he doesn't see your other reality, hence the term "gift". In overall, I'd say that any simplistic label such as "simp", is solely based on a simplistic superficial external analysis of the situation that can cover many deeply different realities that in essence can go from crazy psycho stalker to smart relationship building. "“In the end, it is impossible not to become what others believe you are.” so let's believe in the best in each other :)
I’m so I’m not alone😭 this was me at the beginning of college... it was a dark time😂😅
I didn't realize I was until I watched this video. 😳
Me in High School and College. I just never say my feelings and definitely give way more than I get in return. I'm glad I'm noticing that.
Dude...this one guy in highschool resubmitted my essay I sent him cuz he said it would ‘help him figure out the assignment’... and another in college was mooching notes ... The cringe behaviour ... the daddy issuessssss 😬
Simp has gotten thrown around so haphazardly. Like just being nice to a woman is not simp behavior it should be the norm
Edit: thanks for the likes, mad incels before you comment let me clarify I'm an egalitarian and I think women, men, and other gender identities should all be nice to each other in general. Would lead to a society filled with more positive vibes, anyway hope anyone reading this is doing well!
Yeah, guys who spend time on women they like are often called SIMP by guys who strictly do one-night stands and booty calls.
Guys who use the slang vocabulary are so insecure that they can never comprehend the importance of a relationship as their only desire is to own and dominate the girl as a trophy or possession.
@@OwenRona You realize this entire video used the slang vocabulary, right? Sometimes people are just using common terms.
Yessss! Ive been called one before by a guy
I don't use social media much but the only times I've seen the term being used is for guys who literally hand out hundreds of dollars at a moment's notice, and I don't mean to real friends going through difficult times needing economic assistance, I'm talking about women who just want nice things for free
There’s a difference between “having secret feelings for someone” and “doing literally anything for someone, putting them on a pedestal and coming on WAY too strong”
I feel like Ben Wyatt can’t rly be seen as a simp, bc it’s normal for someone to dote on their partner. It’d be weird if he was going too far when they weren’t dating yet
Exactly, Ben and Leslie both liked each other and he was never going to ridiculous lengths for her before they got together. They both have a very equal and balanced relationship. He isn't a simp at ALL
@@lana5201 also one of the healthiest and cutest relationships too!
@@obsessivefangirl5055 yes! 100% !
I think he represents more the kind of men that are unfairly called simps by randos on the Internet that what simps were supposed to be in the first place.
@@filiaaut yeah but I don't think if you dote on your partner after you're together and their feelings are completely reciprocated for you it's really called simping.
What a sweet and gentle and positive take on this "simp caracter". I loved it and suscribed.
Yeah, very sensitive, nuanced and insightful
You'd never date him unless you're ast your prime
@@Red_Hood514 idk. But I would rather date him than you ;)
@@maiavanwaes7590You definitely not my type based on your comment... and you wouldn’t be able to handle me sweetheart
@@Red_Hood514 haha, dude... you're the one being all weird about it. In my first coment, I was talking about the video... not the simp himself. I like their analysis. Then you come here like a fustrated, white, single cis gender male talking about dates and whatnot when we were clearly comenting on the quality of the video xD man just get a girl already, you almost look jalouse of a simp ^^"
Best simp summary ever, from Morty to Jessica: “You don't miss me, you just miss the me that loved you so much you didn't have to love me back”
I'm not entirely sure that quote highlights the whole idea of a simp though. Many times a simp is just a 'nice guy' who wants sex or a relationship and expects it because he is nice. So that quote works as long as you consider that the guy saying it is trying to say that he's not getting what he wants and therefore will stop caring about her.
@@haley5735 Morty is definitely a simp, totally and unwisely devoted to Jessica, but I wouldn't say he's the Nice Guy (tm) because he never gets angry at her for not meeting his expectations. However in the episode I quoted, Morty has a temporary bout of extreme clarity and self-awareness (brought about by some brain tech). He realizes suddenly what he's been doing and quits doing it. When the effects pass, he reverts to being pretty much the same simp as before. But yeah, the quote reflects the awareness that the typical simp lacks, and he says it in response to Jessica saying she misses him.
@@haley5735 I think the problem is that the line is kind of blurry in the nice guy/honest guy fenomena, IMO telling a girl you are not getting what you seek out of a relationship and opting out is mature behavior as long as you don't berate her or call her names. You present your feelings, wait for an answer and react accordingly, there is a lot of people, as the nice guy is not entitled to a relationship, the woman is not entitled to a friendship.
@@haley5735 ok , i think we need to define the term :
a simp doesn't lowers guilt on the woman he simps for , he endures and endures a lot ending up in emberassing situations ...
a nice guy on the other hand will call a woman a bitch and guilt her for not sleeping with him afther "courting" ...
in short : the simp is locking itself in the room with you , while you get locked in the same room with the nice guy ...
@@davidegaruti2582 That definition is very well-thought out and it makes sense. However, there are many definitions of a what it means to be a simp on the Internet, and I follow a different definition than that. Many times, a simp is ostracized by their (usually male) friends and not by the girl, so yes, there would be no need for them to make her feel guilty for their own actions and the action of their friends. So generally, when the simp says 'please do this, please notice me' or whatever embarrassing thing they choose to do, it is going out of his way to bother the woman for something. That is the intersection, I believe, because simps can sometime harass women in the name of affection.
"Sometimes the simp's path to better self-esteem starts with SIMPly standing up for himself." 🤯
Unpopular opinion: Self-esteem is overrated, it's better to have self-worth than self-esteem.
@@moonlitebrite9317 isn't it the same thing?
@@stellurwill7883 Hmmm, no it's not. Did you not read the passage I provided.
@@moonlitebrite9317 I don't see any passage.
@@stellurwill7883 Er, here in case you missed it. v
“Self-esteem is what we think and feel and believe about ourselves. Self-worth is recognizing ‘I am greater than all of those things.’ It is a deep knowing that I am of value, that I am loveable, necessary to this life, and of incomprehensible worth.”
The fact simp ended up being used against men who are just supporting women to defer them from doing so really says something about how society thinks women should and shouldn’t be treated...
The guys who say this only view male-female relations through a sexual lens. So if you support a woman, you must be trying to fuck her. A few years ago the term was "white knight", but I guess society has moved on.
@@mankytoes In between white knight and simp there was also the word "cuck." Always the same idea, just renamed every few years.
@David Van Siclen it’s one thing to give without expectation because you are sincerely wanting to make a person happy. It’s another thing to “give” with a hidden agenda and hidden intention of wanting something to exchange for it. Because then in the end you’re only going to blame yourself and the other for not satisfy your own selfish expectation.
@@summerhoang What would you say if the person who receives said help is better off than the people supporting her, doesn't work, specifically targets emotionally weak men and deceives them by faking a personal connection and gratitude with her followers?
Just for the record, I'm not the incel type, I'm a man and I've been in a happy relationship with another man for five years, but I do see a recent trend where influencers (I'm using a very loose definition) adopt the same business model as content creators , but instead of giving things like early access or even mentioning their names, they commoddify the very celebrity/fan relation, feeding their affection-starved fans with false hope.
@@Toshimi1043 There are slight variations to the terms. Especially literally 😂. But yes, recently they have all become conflated by bozos who wan to show how "alpha" they are.
There ARE simps, cucks and white knights in the world, no denying that. But there are as many wannabe "alphas" who think any act of decency is a sign of inferiority.
I've literally heard men call each other "Simp" over just saying Hi to a woman, or complimenting them for.... anything really!
It's disgusting, it's sexist, and it's stupid. It's like these men expect that the only way to NOT be a "Simp" is to be Abusive! ... like... WHAT IS THAT?!
Toxic masculinity
yep, this is true. Poor souls with their fragile masculinities.
that's the problem with buzzwords. in the rush to use them and be cool for doing so, many don't take the time to use them correctly. it's like a toddler showing off what they heard on the playground.
And same men will sweet talk their partners behind closed doors. Toxic masculinity is so stupid.
my husband was carrying groceries into our apartment and one Woman hater neighbor called him a "simp" I mean SMH! He is my husband, we been married for over 20 years. Really?
Guy: Respects women
14 year old boys: sImP
*20 year old boys. Speaking from experience
Exactly, not all nice guys are cut from the same cloth, and are friendly simply because they like the girl's company, and not because of some hopeless crush. 🥰❣️
Exactly. Its the dumbest thing ever.
Man: I love my wife
Incels: sIMp
It's not only the fourteen year old ones, THAT'S the sad part...
Confidence is the thing that people love no matter what.
Nah
Eh it depends
It depends on how you define "confidence". For most people "confidence" is to act as you're not insecure about anything and such behavior can be followed by arrogance and even toxicity most of the time.
For me "confidence" is to accept yourself while doing your best despite your insecurities. This can even lead you to self-improvement, because you're being honest with yourself. This is what I love the most on someone, waaay more than the popular definition.
Yes, people don't need to do grand gestures to impress someone. Have some confidence and start a conversation.
@@renatamarques8610 nah. Plenty of people appreciate a gesture
I think one reason why the word simp has made such a comeback is the increasing importance of parasocial relationships created through social media and employed for financial gain. While acting 'simplike' for a women you really know is not ideal, it is not totally bad and might actually lead somewhere sometimes. 'Simping' about an online persona, however, that is created specifically to benefit financialy from this, is more kin to a dangerous pathology or addiction and can be damaging to a person.
In fact, I am now self aware that I have spent most of my life as one! Crazy stuff. Luckily I've grown past it on my own...but man having seen this video 10 years ago would have saved me so much money! I concur it is almost exactly like a fetish as the one sided affection somehow eventually becomes a turn on. Even KNOWING the persona is only looking for money doesn't help.....because at its psychological worst. THAT becomes a turn on! How do I know......been there. And had no Idea the term SIMP even existed until I watched this video.
So Kpop? Lol
@@dreamyanon5151 I love kpop but yes! Just... some fans are insane
So you want people to act like obsess fans, okay I guess so
I thought Otaku culture, and to an extent Weaboos were the biggest promoter and popularisers, of Simps.
For me, simp means someone who is completely and unreasonably infatuated with someone that doesn't reciprocate their feelings- (the way people are in love with K-pop or Harry styles for example - yes their great artists, but they don't even know you exist) not when a man does the bare minimum to show respect for a woman. It's ridiculous how people misuse this term.
Edit: Some people are pointing out how the examples I mentioned are a depiction of parasocial relationships and they’re right.
It’s just the first example that came to mind but yall get my meaning. This whole video did a really good job of providing other examples and dissecting the trope.
I think that the K-pop and Harry styles examples you gave are considered as parasocial relationships... when I think about it, parasocial relationships are a form of simping, so yeah.
I agree , I hate it when people call men simps just cause they act like gentlemen to their women.
i think those are parasocial relationships
My GF lives hairy style so much. She even started a harry styles fan club in high school (Japanese always have school clubs they are forced to join or make)
When harry rumours of him and Olivia Wilde dating started happening she was depressed for a week. Not even a joke. Lmao
@x x I lived in Japan for 2 years haha. I've heard of it. This is also a thing in South Korea. It's pretty crazy.
As you get older you learn to not idolise women upon superficial beauty. Having a cute partner won't make your life happier. Knowing yourself better and making sure you are on the right path it will. Embrace who you are and you will appear more interesting to the right target.
90% of women’s attractiveness can be gone with a wet wipe! That’s why I never subscribed to “ out of your league” bs, unless she is a model in prime early / 20s, 8s become 4s and 5s...
Actually study shows that having an attractive partner makes you more satisfied and fulfilled in life.
@@abdulazizhawsah9884source?
the term Simp is so overused and misused online. it's annoying.
Agreed. From what I have seen, it is predominantly used by little insecure boys who believe any form of kindness(support, a compliment, defending) a man shows towards women is wrong/beta behaviour and therefore he must be a simp. I roll my eyes so hard whenever I see this happening and its immediately a turn off.🤢
@@msgirly6827 ) this.
@@msgirly6827 I know, right? It's men policing each other to make sure that other men treat women just as badly as they do. I think that's why guys can be hesitant to admit to being feminists; because the moment they do, a dozen other guys pounce on them and declare them to be a 'simp' or a 'beta'. There's a real competitiveness between guys, a constant jostling for status, and it sucks. You end up with guys who are ashamed to express emotions or vulnerability, and who treat women like trash.
Feminism focuses heavily on women's issues, and that's a good thing, because the patriarchy hurts women far more than it hurts men (though nobody escapes unharmed, really). But I think there should also be more of a push to get guys interested, tell them that listening to and respecting women doesn't make them weak, because there's a lot of pressure from other guys to treat women as badly as they do or they'll get shamed and ridiculed. Also, dismissing the 'alpha'/'beta' myth would be good too (which is really just a distinction used to champion toxic masculinity), and explaining that emotional vulnerability is acceptable, etcetera.
Recently i havent seen anything that isnt an ironic use so it think its sorta dying out
@@msgirly6827
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The Evil Girlfriend/Boyfriend trope pls! At the end the guy/girl will end up with the main character and dump their idk 5 years partner bcs of this new girl who suddenly change their life. Wow.
Also, how the girl is always with some guy who treats her like crap so we, as the audience, are set up to be perfectly ok with her cheating or entertaining the other love interest.
Yes
@@iamV10010 Er, but you do realize there are bad boy/girlfriends who do treat their spouses like crap right?
@@moonlitebrite9317 amen
@@moonlitebrite9317 Yeah there are and it's great if someone is being supportive and encourages the MC to stand up for themselves when this happens but in TV/movies/books that's not what they do. The "good spouse /girlfriend" doesn't leave their partner because they are bad people, even if they are, but rather because someone else shows interest in them. It's almost implied that they would've left their partner for the other person no matter what but it's ok bc the partner is mean
Ben Wyatt isn't a simp. Leslie goes hard for him too. They're both very into each other and do a lot for each other.
Yes I like their relationship because they both pursue each other and want to be together. It’s not Ben convincing her to like him.
What I hate is when men call simp another man who basically just treats women like respect worthy human beings.
He a simp.
My husband was called a simp by his customers when he mentioned that I had dropped him off at work so I could go see a movie only I wanted to see and was going to pick him up when he got off of work. Lol it really confused us when he was called that because literally we just thought that we were being independent individuals but considerate of each other's plans that day
@@hambone4984 that sucks, sorry. What a bunch of jerks honestly.
It's another way to encourage abusive treatment to women in society
I smell simpage
"Unrequited love"
[Shows Romeo and Juliet, who famously requited each other's love so much they died for each other]
Seriously!!
this movie was not very well put together, i dont like how they put laurie from little women on here either, a simp is a dude who is a literal SLAVE to a girl, gatsby is the perfect example, he uprooted his whole entire life and became a slave to daisy who in the end didnt love him. Laurie, tom (from 500 days) romeo... these guys arent simps, simply being a male w an unrequited love DOES NOT make a simp. Laurie confessed to jo, she said no and he was forced to move on, tom DID misread his relationship w summer, HOWEVR they WERE IN FACT IN A RELATIONSHIP! At the very least a sexual relationship or FWB he wasnt simping for her. ppl throw the term simp around so tonedeaf
Maybe Romeo with Rosaline at the start
As a dude, I've never been a fan of the phrase simply because people use it in such an overarching way. The other day my buddy said we couldn't hangout cuz he's having movie night with his gf and joked that he was a "simp" for doing so. I just rolled my eyes.🙄
EDIT: Just to be clear, I'm not mad at him spending time with his gf. I'm just annoyed that people think something like that is considered "simping."
The bitch ? You mean women right? Please stop calling women bitches
@semi ) Thank You! I wanted to say something like this.
@Ru paul You sound jealous and bitter.
OKAY WHAT HAPPENED IN YOUR REPLIES? THERE'S SO MUCH GOING ON BUT ONLY 4 OF THEM-
@@alizeica519 ) Ru paul deleted his comment wich was rather misognoystic....
*The Spoiled Brat Trope*
Yessss do it
Why do I feel like Cher from clueless would be that
these girls wont ever do a negative take on female roles
@@MmentoMori They aren't even willing to do on for Becky which ignores the fact of how racist they are and trys to find sympathy for them.
@@MmentoMori they've done them on plenty of girl orientated tropes. They even did Karen's.
There's a difference between a Simp and a gentleman unfortunately the two get conflated too often.
The simp is weak and not masculine
@@adamcraig1468 ) what?
@@steamboatwill3.367 that's the difference between them
@@adamcraig1468 ) obviously, but I have no idea what they mean...
@@steamboatwill3.367 you dont know what weak or masculine mean? Lol
Something some people don't understand is that the "I love my wife" guy and the "simp" guy are not the same.
and when I say some people I mean men 🤦
The fact that he's married already makes him an non-simp.
@@mrtyrant1680 Absolutely. The terms are mutually exclusive. A simp is defined by desperately trying to get into a relationship. A person already in a relationship can never be a simp.
@@matunusdonnerhammer3423 IKR I was watching a clip of Up the other day, and somebody in the comment section was saying something about how Carl was doing something great to honor his wife Ellie, and of course somebody called Carl a simp.
@@kittykittybangbang9367 Than that person doesn't know the meaning of the word simp. A married simp makes about as much sense as an adult baby, a vegan carnivore, chaste porn or an intelligent Trump supporter.
I don't consider Laurie from Little Women a simp. Jo never likes Laurie romantically but Laurie's love extends to Jo's family as well. He isn't nice to the March sisters just because of Jo, he is friends with all of them. More importantly, he is willing to move on when he is rejected.
facts, he doesn't repeatedly pine after her and one passionate declaration of love from him doth not maketh a simp
@Ciara Milne true, but he didn't keep trying to convince her to marry him. He didn't take her rejection well though, not because he's a 'simp', but because he's heart broken.
@Ciara Milne That isn't simping. People can be depressed after rejection without being a simp. He'd have been a simp if he continued to hang around her hoping she would change her mind.
Please do the "fake couple" trope 🙏🙏🙏
Yes I love this trope!
yes!!! up
Yes! I'd love to see you do that. It's so overused
@semi I seen it so much in ‘fake engagement’ or ‘contract marriage’. They get together, for whatever reason, state not to fall in love and be professional, but low and behold they both end up falling in love (after some denial or tempting first).
chuck and sarah
A simp who isn't a sycophant isn't a simp. Please don't conflate the nerdy "good man" with the simp "nice guy". Being a simp is not a character trait to be aspired to because at it's core it involves a lack of self respect. Characters who have self respect or eventually learn it are not simps.
So surprised to see Ben Wyatt included here, he is one of the best representations of a supportive and loving partner on TV, and it’s completely reciprocated. He and Leslie are a power couple. Also, Ben stands his ground with her many times, including the introduction of his character as one of the state auditors, Leslie calls him “mean Ben” for just doing his job. Then after they split up to avoid a scandal during Leslie’s campaign, he stands his ground about not being able to spend time with Leslie while she keeps trying to find new projects for the two of the them (Chris’s ‘dynamic duo’) to keep working on just to spend more time with him even though they’ve broken up. Ben is so far from a simp.
So well said!! Ben isn't a simp because firstly his feelings are 100% reciprocated and also he makes all those big gestures for her after they start dating, he's not doing that stuff to woo her or win her over, but because he genuinely wants to. It might have been considered simp-like if he'd been making big gestures for her before they were together.
Also he's one of the most adorable characters I've ever seen.🥰
@@obsessivefangirl5055 Very key point about him doing that stuff *after* they start dating. It stops when they break up for the campaign, which he sticks to despite Leslie trying to find ways to prolong their involvement in parks department projects, and then starts up again when they’re back together and eventually married. And he gets all the same back from Leslie who is a huge giver. He also doesn’t go easy on Leslie when they’re back together and he takes over as her campaign manager - e.g. running a negative campaign ad against Bobby Newport which they clash over before reaching a compromise. Also agreed, he’s just super adorable all around!
@@withinwithout6263 yesss! That negative ad example is spot on. Also there was an episode in s6 as well where they disagree about something and have a hilarious fight which ends with them both standing in a freezing fountain🤣.
Either way Ben holds his ground against Leslie many times and doesn't always go along with what she says.
Some men have called the character a SIMP for being willing to set aside his own feelings and work for his wife.
@@GenerationNextNextNext ikr! Their misogyny shows clearly. If more men were like Ben Wyatt, this world would be a much better place.
reminds me of the ending in Tangled
"And after years of asking and asking...I finally said yes."
"Eugene..."
"Alright. I asked her. :))"
not only did he propose to her multiple times but they're one of the healthiest, supportive relationships in their tvshow 👍
But people would call him a simp
Tangled is a movie before it had it's own TV show.
But she's the monarch, she would literally have to ask him.
He never explicitly said he asked her several times, that years and years bit could have just been part of his joke...I mean otherwise he'd just have been settled for eventually, and woman couldn't respect a guy who'd been orbiting her for that long right?
@@docthefaust4519 Women can get complimented by his determination
“What’s a simp?”
*Intellectual Brain:* A man who defends a woman regardless if they are correct or not for the sake of her approval or affection.
*Meme Brain:* SQUIRRELS IN MY PANTS!
Wtf I don’t remember anyone using the term “simp” before 2020! Phoebe dropped it on Friends???
Shook. 💀
Same ! Lol I had no idea ! now I’m questioning my existence hahah 😂😂😂😂😂😂
It doesn’t mean the same thing. Simp was a slang word before, but the way Phoebe used means a general sucker or gullible idiot. This SIMP used in the video is from a misappropriated slang term from AAVE that has been around for over 30 years.
@@crownofeunoia1907 citation needed
@@luisalejandro2335 Google it. Like everyone was not using simp for a guy kissing up to a girl until Black folks on Twitter started using it like a lot of the Internet slang you know.
Mandela Effect?
The word “simp” comes from AAVE (African American Vernacular English)
Why was it created?
@@eduardopantoja9115 The hip-hop group Three 6 Mafia used it as an antonym to “pimp” in their song Sippin’ on Some Syrup.
@@yvannab.1260 It was used by blk people long before the hip-hop group added it into their song, which was how it made it into the song. On the streets it meant "Sucker for mediocre pu**y." It was actually used since the 1920s.
it was def popularized by black ppl.....to a detrment to all maledom
@@yvannab.1260
Hahaha that just blew my mind.
Gunther is the 7° friend , poor guy , fell in love with Rachel
I know, poor Gunther. The Take explained in their "Gunther analysis" from a few years back that he could have just spared himself from A LOT of pain and heartache by confessing his crush on Rachel earlier, and move on with someone else, and not waste his time on a hopeless crush. 💔😿
Janice is the 8th friend.
That poor closeted gay guy pretending to be in love with a girl he knows is gonna reject him.
The simp can never be healthy simp is only defined by the fact he doesn’t get the same feeling
Nowadays if you open the door for a woman your called a simp
@@monicacreator3168 some people but a true simp my first answer or giving money to online girls thinking you have a shot at them
@@kingdomhreats23 true a healthy simp is a oxymoron
Exactly. A simp can't be "enlightened", because then he wouldn't be a simp.
@@kingdomhreats23 Er, what is wrong with that it's their money, they can do whatever they want with it. I'm sorry, but this just comes across as an insidious way to stigmatize sex work and/or cam girl profession.
Smh Ben is not a simp. He's simply a functional, well adjusted adult.
EXACTLY
This right here ^^^
" All good is hard. All evil is easy. Dying, losing, cheating, and mediocrity is easy. Stay away from easy."
Scott Alexander
I continue to love your quotes, life can be hard AND easy simultaneously!
Not all evil is easy... Serial killing seems like a LOT of work. But point taken ;-)
@@Snowshowslow Conquering the world is evil.
@@trinaq thank you
@@The482075 Yes and I'd be way too lazy for that too 😁
The fact that being more of a "femenine" man is an insult tells us a lot about how society sees women
Nope, not "how society sees women" ...
@@smartass0124 yes, because apparently in order to be strong you have to be a man in a hot female body 🙄🙄🙄
The feminine men are not seen desirable, unless they are at peak of Financial or artistic success.
This has nothing to do with how society sees women, it simply a projection of what's deemed desirable in popular culture and it's always a hyper masculine guy.
@Ru paul it's not that she needs to "deal with it".. She's just taking offense to something that has nothing to do with her being a woman or how they are seen.
What does it tell us about that?
Unpopular Opinion: I actually never really shipped Duckie with Andie in "Pretty in Pink". He acts EXTREMELY petty and condescending, even going as far as stalking her, which DEFINITELY would not fly in a "Me Too" era. At one point, he refers to Andie's boyfriend Blaine as "An electrical appliance", and acts as though he "deserves" Andie, as though she's a possession, and not a human being. 🙄🤦🏻♀️
I thought that was the point? He acts so intense that no one wants him to end up with Andie.
I heard that the original ending was Andie and Duckie getting together, but audiences HATED that, so she got with Blaine, so I don't think it's an unpopular opinion in the slightest. Lol
Edit: Added Blaine's name.
Duckie is just a boy in conflict with himself, he really loves Andie, but he's childish and doesn't know how to demonstrate, don't blame he so much, it's normal
@@brendon1441 stalking is not normal.
Edit: He also acts like he knows Andie's feelings and intentions better than herself. That should not be encouraged or overlooked.
Blaine, was a brand name for refrigerators I believe.
I can't believe you called Ben Wyatt a Simp! He's one of the healthiest male characters ever written on tv!
Exactly what I was gonna say!! Like duh find me a guy in real life who's as supportive of his gf/wife the way Ben is towards Leslie, I'll happily marry him! Plus Simps are people whose love isn't reciprocated. In Ben's case, Leslie felt the same about him too!
He's not a simp at all. It was ridiculous to include that bit because some morons might call any man who is polite a simp. That's not what a simp is.
I agree
ofc girls will like a guy who becomes a carpet for you
Entitlement is a problem. The problem. Ask. Talk. Miscommunication is the root.
there we go
The simp problem is often the opposite of entitlement- they don't see their needs as equal, they don't see themselves as entitled to the same level of commitment they are offering. They do these grand things for women, but never expect the same in return. The real tragedy of this behaviour is women find it incredibly unattractive. The only women you'll succeed with, offering this behaviour, are narcissists.
Women often do this too, but, as the video says, it's seen as more socially acceptable.
People will tell you entitlement is a terrible thing, but you are entitled to respect, and (within a relationship) commitment and affection.
And the root is the miscommunication....
I never viewed Ben Wyatt’s character as a simp, just a very great partner. They both support each others passions, and work as a team
Yes, so shocked to see Ben Wyatt used here. He is just a great partner to Leslie, supporting her when she’s going up against challenges, and Leslie does the same for him. They certainly clash a lot when Ben’s character is introduced with the gov auditing storyline and Ben stands his ground when Leslie keeps trying to spend time with him after they breakup for her campaign. The use of him in this video is completely out of place.
@@withinwithout6263 I'd consider Morty Smith from Rick and Morty a Simp but I guess they chosed Ben Wyatt to make simps look good. (Ben Wyatt is not a Simp)
Exactly! Plus his affections are completely reciprocated by Leslie
Ben totally is not a simp lol, he and Leslie were into eachother, and he realized that they needed to break up because of her running for city council. They had a great relationship, loved them.
Moral of the story: If you like someone tell them! If they reciprocate yeah!!! If not move on. It's might be harsh but it will save you time and heartache in the long run!
Moving on is often not a option for them.
There’s a guy who simps over me and the main reason it annoys me is because I know he’ll never see me as a person. He wants me to be the empty vessel that he can project fantasies onto. That’s it.
But that is what you are. And so is he. You think that you know the truth of this person as you described. You never considered that is just your imagined version of him, just as he imagined you, and neither of you know the others true self.
Fuck that sounds really suffocating. I'm glad you see through it
@@JebeckyGranjola exactly lol
@kaylaNoelle1
I used to think the same way when I was younger too. Big mistake.
The guy sees you as a person, our society has taught a lot of these men they have to "earn" their chance with you. Especially if they aren't popular or have a certain look.
I wish I could go back & have some of those guys from my youth who were "simps" for me. A much better deal than I got from the bad boys.
Hell, at least they cared about me.
@@cinemathequerouge317 Life isn't that black and white where a man is either a bad boy or a nice guy. Just because I don't like being reduced to some guy's fantasy doll with no soul or personality of my own doesn't mean I like bad boys. Bad boys are entirely too much work lol, I'd be exhausted. My boyfriend does a lot of things that many other men would consider to be "simping" the difference is that he values my REAL personality instead of projecting fantasies of who he wants me to be onto me. The guy who simps over me doesn't want to actually get to know me very well because it could shatter this fake perfect version of me that he's created in his mind. I'm not a human being to him. That's a fact. He hears me swear and he says "you don't swear??" yes I do but apparently that doesn't fit his fantasy version of me. He sees me try out a new trend and he says "You don't wear things like that??" YES, I DO but he doesn't care what I actually do or how I actually feel. Meanwhile, my boyfriend sees me try a new trend and he says "Oh that's not something you'd usually wear, but I like it! How do you feel in it?" He expects me to grow and change and surprise him because he sees me as a person and not some static fake character he's concocted in his head. That's why people don't like simps, they reduce living breathing human beings into poetic concepts and mannequins and dolls.
I’m a simple person.
I hear compliments about Ben Wyatt- I cry and like.
Ben Wyatt is the cutest, more adorable simp to ever exist🥰
Ben Wyatt is an example of a guy you want to grow up to be like lol. He's comfortable with who he is, and he isn't threatened or frustrated by Leslie's accomplishments.
A simp is someone who is in love with an idea, not a person.
Its good that people learn this terms. Teenagers generally imitate what's shown in movies in relationship. But in reality that's what simp is all about. Be yourself, enjoy your life and the right girl will find you. That's all it takes for a good relationship.
I’ve never clicked on a video so fast
"The Simp" can fall hand in hand with the "Dogged Nice Guy." They are persistent in trying to woo the girl of their dreams, even if they're not really romantically interested in them. It's best to just move on, and find someone who DOES like them. 💞
Hah!
You say like it's something simple.
Moving on is often not an option.
This channel has to give you a VIP membership because I see you everywhere!!
But sometimes i think that the "simp" try to do something good for the people around him , but the "Nice guy" only is selfish and never thinks about the others , even though the "simps" do somethings bads
Simp and nice guy are the same
I think simps don't necessarily even believe they can get the girl. To me it sounds more like the simps just have the dream of "oh but what if..." but never act on it more than being kind, which just ends up hurting themselves more than anyone else. Gunther is a good example. And Ross was like that too at first. Nice Guys are inconsiderate and persistent, like Ted, that believe their crush should be with them because they love the girl and would "treat them right", so why is the girl being stubborn for not being with them.
What a good time to be aromantic
lol absolutely
I love that Joseph Gordon Levitt is the championship simp in a couple of his movies
It comes natural for him.
Josimp
The way Ive loved him because of these roles.... I need him to know that if he ever wanted to simp for me it would absolutely be reciprocated
I feel like the reason by people recoil at the simp isn’t because his a bad guy but because his love feels like puppy affection than real genuine attraction.
(OMG-Thanks guys this is the most likes I ever received thanks you so much 😅🙏🏿 👍🏻 I hope everyone has a good day)
Yeah.. like he's only seeing the fantasy version of her and not the reality of what it would actually be like.
Yes it seems like attachment and mommy issues.
@@iamV10010 But most people who are in that state of mind see the fantasy version rather than the reality version. When you first fall in love or in crush you don't immediately see the "real" person, you instantly see the more romanticized version of a person.
Supporting women is ok but the term "simp" refers to the men who cross the line. It's a man who humiliates himself for his love interest.
But when the opposite happens, it's fine to you people. -_-
@Ru paul ) you apparentley...
FR: no one "says" it but that's the implication.
@smartass 012. Nobody said generally being nice is bad. Being decent and nice is good. Its when the niceness comes with hidden expectations that theres an issue. Like, the guys who'll be a friend, and be kind - right up to the point a girl isnt romantically or sexually interested. And who then claims to have been badly treated because a girl being friendly and a guy being nice OBVIOUSLY means shes obliged to sleep with him...... that's what's meant by the Nice Guy trope. Nobody has any issues with people who are genuinely nice, and don't assume that niceness and friendship entitles them to sexual favours. Stay nice and decent, my friend. We respect you for it.
Writing my Tinder profile: "Looking for an Enlightened Simp..."
Lolll not teens in 2020 thinking that they created the term “simp” 😗😂✌🏽
Speaking of 'simp,' when I was growing up, my mother was telling me how we should not be overly cruel to men who are 'simps.' Because she said if you kept being overtly mean, you may end up with the 'simp.' And this actually came true. In HS, there was this boy who's thoroughly a 'simp' for my friend. He would just follow her around like a puppy and be super-duper accomodating/nice toward her, and she didn't like him that way, very openly refused him. She told everyone how she thought he was not attractive to her and she was very clear that she didn't like him. But he didn't give up. He was that person who just latched on and wouldn't let go. He even applied and got accepted to the same university as she did (which was a tad odd because her parents sent her to study abroad and he got so many options but he chose her university choice). Guess what, to everyone's shock, she actually got married to him, around ten years after we all graduated HS. They're still married now, they have 2 kids. Now they kind of rewrote their story, she would tell people (who don't know) that they were best friends from HS, which was totally so far from the truth.
Okay yoo this story kinda spooky, I hope she’s alright though….
I had never heard of the word simp, which I'm now realising is probably a hopeful sign :-)
I’ll forever remember this video as the “99.9% of males in Twitch” Video.
They banned the word simp lol. Seriously.
I feel like taking issue with that use of the shot from Kick-Ass, especially paired with the phrase "he deserves love." That change from the book to the movie really angered me because I felt he didn't deserve that kiss. The violence he took part in to earn the kiss in the movie was horrific. In the book, the third act is quite different and I felt the shift to a Hollywood-style story made the story seem reprehensible to me.
I was reading a manhwa about a guy protecting a girl from a serial killer and the comments were always just from boys calling him a simp.... like okayyy
In Japan it's considered a good virtue to protect those you care about.
Ben is not a simp, just because he's not the most masculine guy ever doesn't make him automathically a simp. Also, it's really funny that you said 'Women who don't feel the same way even if they wanted to' and decided to show Daisy from the Great Gatsby. She never tried to love anyone, she just did what she found the most profitable for her.
Also Ben is not a simp because Simps don't have their feelings reciprocated by the person they like. This was not the case with Ben. Either way, he's one of the healthiest male characters ever written on tv.
Yeah Ben is not a simp haha
LOL the Take actually went there!
"Simply put"
I see what you did there.
Though I'm a female, I too had simped hard for men in the past only to realize that I was completely wrapped in a fantasy that I knew was never going to reflect reality. It went so deep I didn't even end up confessing my feelings for fear of brekaing the fantasy from being rejected
Throwing simp at everyone being slightly nice to women made it loose that sting to me.
Be careful that a simp doesn’t turn into an incel.
Nah, you have to start hating/blaming the women to become an incel
What’s an incel?
@@nagisa0931 It's short for "involuntarily celibate." It's a term used by (typically straight) men who self-identify as such and blame their situation on the women who spurned them because they feel entitled to romance and sex. The stereotype of self-proclaimed incels, though, is that they are often dorky and unattractive, and that is why women spurn them.
@@inkwisitive That's the worry though, the simp will experience so many failures and decide women are to blame- after all, he's done everything for them and only been rejected.
@@teacoffee42 That's fair. I remember a BBC program that interviewed a number of self-identified incels and, while one was pretty awful and enjoyed catfishing women and videoing it, another was very thoughtful and simply drew solace from being part of an online community
1:19 “Historically, the simp has been viewed as slightly *pathetic*.” (Show footage of Charles Boyle)
Me: Look how they massacred my boy
IKR? I LOVE BOYLE, HE'S SO KIND AND HE'S THR BEST FRIEND EVER!
@@ruchimeghwal910 He’s the most insulted character in the squad just because he is not as physically attractive as Amy and Rosa, charming as Jake, strong as Terry, charismatic as Holt, overtly comical as Hitchcock and Scully or completely unique like Gina. He’s mediocre at best but that’s why he’s my most favorite because he is so relatable.
@@nont18411 i think he has his unique charm! he's also my second favourite character because he's genuinely so sweet. my first is amy, mainly because i totally relate to her nerdy studious side and i have a crush on her. i generally like characters who go out of their way to be kind, which is why amy and charles are my favourites! i feel like the fact that charles is genuinely such a heartwarming kind person gets overlooked a lot because he comes across as a bit intense, but i think that's what makes him stand out. i love all his quirks even though they can be a bit weird!
@@ruchimeghwal910 I understand why two most favorite characters of the whole fanbase are Amy and Rosa. Both of them represent inspirational strong Latina ladies in the male-centric society. Not to mention that both Melissa and Stephanie are very beautiful and sexy. That’s why a lot of male audience like them. Boyle, on the other hand, looks exactly like an average Joe (and somehow his actor is a guy name Joe) you can find on the street or in office everyday. But that’s what makes him special, at least for me. Terry said in the Pilot that Boyle is the grinder, the hardest worker of them all. He is also very compassionate to the people he cares about like Jake or most importantly, Nikolaj. Which makes him a great role model in a realistic way for us common people.
Boyle is actually pathetic, he is kind but that's not what we mean by pathetic. He was a simp for Rosa, for his ex wife, and he is still simping for Jake, he is indeed pathetic.
A simp doesn't retain the nice qualities of being a simp, but rather he transforms into what's know as being a "gentleman" who knows how to treat women nicely and with respect. A good example of what this video could have used of what a simp could aspire to would be a character like Marshal from HIMYM. On the surface you could see some of his behaviour as simping for Lilly, but it's not true. Sure he loves brunch, making sappy love songs for his wife, going to musicals and likes being romantic, but he's so secure in his manhood that he never get's bothered by anyone who would make fun of him about it. Marshal is able to achieve this because he's such a multifaceted man which is what gives him self confidence and self respect. He can play piano, he's athletic (was a slam dunk champion in high school), he's a lawyer and he cares about the environment. He's also in every respect of the word a Gentleman when it comes to women. Sure he high fives his buddies when they get laid, but deep down he's a relationship guy who cares deeply for his wife. Put this all together and he's a guy who actually has something to offer women, unlike his simp counterpart in Ted who, while being an architect (which is interesting) doesn't have much else going for him aside from being a hopeless romantic.
Most of the simps in this video don't have much going for them aside for their love to whichever women they pine after.
I love Marshall
My problem with this term. Is the simp only treat women with kindness. Making women look like special little kinds. Why don't these men show this same exact kindness to other men? The simp opens the door for that pretty girl because you just wanna smash or be in a relationship I don't know. But the simp wouldn't the door for men or unattractive women. The problem I have with these men is their kindness is usually one-sided and usually has an agenda behind it. They would be indifferent or mean towards men and unattractive women. But automatically change to a super simp once a pretty woman walks into the room. Who is a complete stranger they don't know? Any treat her like a princess. You shouldn't give the bare minimum of kindness or more to just one particular hot woman stranger. You give the bare minimum of kindness to everybody. Open the door everybody. Don't have a fake nice guy motive for opening the door. Be nice to everybody, not just attractive women.
@@markstriker925 Agreed with all of this, especially the part about how they become super simps when an attractive woman walks in and treating her like a princess. I'd say they're nice to hot women mostly because they want to smash and not because they want to be in a relationship. They pine after these women and put them on a pedestal because they think it's the only way to get that kind of woman to like them. Also because those kinds of woman aren't usually attracted to simps.
Whenever I have a friend acting like a SIMP I would do my joker impression and say: "if you're going to put someone on a pedestal... they're going to naturally look DOWN AT YOU"... I'm not crazy I'm just ahead of the curve
sure edgelord
... no one thinks your crazy
Let me guess your friend an obsessive Otaku and possibly a KPop Stan?
@@magnuscritikaleak5045 no just people in general pining over the idea of being in love > the reality
Simp is an Internet slang term, used pejoratively for someone (usually male who is seen as using excessive sympathy and attention toward another person (usually female) in order to win their affection, sometimes in pursuit of a sexual relationship. Urban Dictionary defines a simp as "someone who does way too much for a person they like".Simp can also be used as behaviors being referred to as simping
I love that Charles was able to evolve past being obsessed with Rosa to being a close friend of hers
Not sure if the simp is a separated trope from the nice guy , besides there is a diference between a guy who goes after a girl that intentionaly leads them on (because there are girls who do that, i know some) with a guy who feels entitled to a woman or is a creppy stalker.Edit: I hate how Game of Thores adapted Ser Jorah, someone read his character in the books ,who is a creppy old man kissing a 14 year old without consent and being completely entitled, not even apologizing for lying to her and they though "AWW POOR JORAH, HE IS SO NICE" and made him a simp so the audience would hate Dany (keep in mind: maybe the only woman in Westeros who has a say about her consort)
@semi alright, thats a good distinction
Simp and a nice guy Are the same. Calling them a nice guy is a nicer way of putting it
There's definitely an overlap between them
Jesus, the women who intentionaly lead is so true. Years ago I had to deal with a girl who scold me for "not trying hard enough to win her", even though she literally told me she was not interested in me from the get-go, but apparently I needed to ignore that and just keep trying. People be crazy I swear, lol.
@semi sometimes its both.
Ross is probably the most simp character of all the time 😂😂
I don't think Ross was a simp. His desire to be with Rachel wasn't unrequited, Rachel just didn't know how he felt. But when Chandler let it slip that Ross was in love with her, she wanted to be with him. If Chandler had told Rachel that Ross was in love with her, and Rachel was disinterested, I think Ross would have moved on with his life like he always does. He only kept the pursuit because he knew that she loved him as much as he loved her. Also Ross didn't keep pining for Rachel when he couldn't be with her. He's always moved on from her and dated other women and even got married again after her.
Nah Ross is toxic nice guy
@@signalfire15 i agree with some points , like he always tried move on for her and date women , she didn't do the same thing and she keeps him around a lot of times , but he is a simp for always try to do anything for women ( especially Rachel ) and a lot of these women ( especially Rachel ) are not worth it , so he stiil a simp
@@jennerick92jm no , he actually is "in a toxic relationship" with Rachel during 10 seasons and 236 episodes , when he is far from her he actually did nothing , even not being a simp
Mordecai is the biggest simp
Yeah, I really don’t think Jorah Mormont qualifies as a simp. His “relationship” with Daenerys always struck me as more emblematic of the courtly love tradition, where a man knows from the outset that a woman is unattainable yet still holds her in high regard and strives to be worthy of her affections.
He’s also her employee so they’re conflating things he does out of subordinate duty to his queen with romantic devotion
In the books, Jorah is way more foward and even harassed her at times. (In the books he's a descontruction of the courtly love.)
In the show, it's played straight.
@@mrtyrant1680 Either way, calling him a simp is clearly off the mark.
I used to be a simp. Then I stopped taking SRI’s. I’m very embarrassed about my “less desirable years.” But now I don’t feel sorry for myself anymore and look forward to the future. Now I want to be someone desirable instead of aimlessly desiring others.
the term "simp" is just a meme now tbh, I wouldn't take people who use it too seriously
Agreed
I can't believe you all used the word "Simp". Give a raise to the writer and contributer.
Simp is a it's core an insult to women that some men deemed not worthy of attention.
True.
Agreed
Its a bit late in the "SIMP!1!1" trend, but this is still appreciated!!
Is lowkey offended that Peeta was included here, Peeta is not a simp, y’all. Read the damn books.
I have and I agree with the Take.
He literally volunteered ib the second film/book because of his unrequited feelings.
@@Dauerglotzer123 it’s so much more complicated than that. By the second reaping Katniss had already fallen in love with him, the trauma that they had gone through made them become closer to each other. Haymitch couldn’t have protected her in the games, plus, who wouldn’t volunteer to save a loved one? In the books his family was abusive to him, and practically abandoned him after his first games, his family was Katniss, Haymitch and maybe Delly.
Ugh videos like these are SO good, but also painful because they illustrate the dark underside of one’s thought process incredibly well
I think the biggest female simps have to be Sakura and Hinata from Naruto. It's surprising and sad that these two characters are from the same series, but I think it speaks volumes about how female characters are perceived in shonen manga/anime. The idea that women should pine over a guy without asking anything in return or lose any ounce of self-respect even after that the male characters tried to killed and any interaction she has had with them was deeming and humiliating . Even though Naruto was never malicious in ignoring Hinata's feelings the fact that she pines for him for a year, she should realized he looks at as a friend and nothing and being okay with that (the fact that their "romance" had to happen in a movie long after the series ended really just effort cash in on the popularity of the manga and the fact that Naruto needed to be hallucinating to realized Hinata's feelings and reciprocating, is laughable). And to portrayed said relationships between these characters as healthy even as they became married couples are unrealistic and dangerous (Sasu/Saku and Naru/Hina are terrible parents in their respective way that hasn't change even if they have confronted about it by their own kids)
Dude shonen male characters are almost always oblivious to the feelings of female friends around them. It annoys me af, so much so that I wish there wouldn't be any romance in whatever shonen manga I pick up.
@@aenirrinea523 right, like if you are not going to do it correctly, then do not do it. I think it hurts the impressionable reader's perception of what romance should look like
@@93abc123 yeah and people act like it's was a great anime romance, I was like, "They interact maybe five times in 700+ chapters and every time he says anything to her she blushes and then faints." I really think there was one good relationship in that whole show.
Simp is definitely real but overused. I am glad you all said that the word "simp" is also being thrown at men who simply respect women. I am black and in our community, if a man says he respects and is faithful to his wife or girlfriend, and even supports his daughters, its not uncommon to see men call him a simp. For not being a harsh "alpha male".
This.
There’s another factor: even if the simp develops confidence and shows a stronger persona, if the girl isn’t attracted to him physically, it really doesn’t matter. Some simps can go with it without changing because they’re attractive (which rarely happens). It’s just men in love with toxic relationships were they need someone “superior” they can look up to. They don’t want equals they want idols. Maybe it’s an unsolved mom-son issue there.
I agree with this. Attraction is a too way street. Some men don't realize this because we're so taught from the young age and gaslighted that with 'confidence' a man can become more attractive. When a guy is insecure about his attractiveness like him being skinny, fat, short etc. people will tell him 'just be more confident' as if it's the be-all-end-all solution to everything and that their insecurities don't matter at all. It helps, but in the end there needs to be some physical attraction. Some men take this to heart and becomes a simp. Funny thing is that a lot of 'simp' I know is pretty average looking and some have the potential to be good looking, but they just don't put effort into appearance maybe besides lifting a couple of times a week or at least have shit taste in fashion. Us men don't really have the crutch of make up so yeah that kinda sucks.
Also I wouldn't say they're looking or someone 'superior'. Most of the simps are genuinely infatuated by the girl but he doesn't respect himself enough or not socially competent enough to know when to back up and when to stop tolerating disrespect.
This is probably one of the best trope videos The Take have done so far.
"If u don't want crappy thing to happen to u then stop excepting crap" this is my new favorite quote! Really rings my bell
you should make a video on the "Gay Best Friend" and "Gay Bully" Trope!
@semi IKR. Its like, "Gay people create problems for themselves, we are absolutely innocent!"
However, Gay Bullies do exist. But not every homophobic Bully is secretly gay. That's the point.
@@ways.of.unseeing kurt hummel likes this
@@ways.of.unseeing oh I thought the “gay bully” trope was the snarky stylish gay man
@@brib6046 oh no lol 😂.
Its the secretly gay homophobic Bully
Yes, I completely concur! The whole "Homophobic Bully who picks on Openly Gay Kid because they're secretly gay themselves, and have a crush on them" is getting very overplayed now. This doesn't happen AS much in real life, and some key examples of it in fiction would be Karofsky and Kurt from "Glee", or Adam and Eric from "Sex Education."
Wish you’d used Frasier content a bit more. It goes into how Niles’ idolisation of Daphne starts to harm their relationship once they become an item. How she puts on weight and he has to realise how she’s not able to match up.
IMO seeing how simp is the go to insult that incels and MRAs use on other men just takes them venom from the word. It takes a very sad man to be a incel or MRA, so if they insult you for not being like them, take it as a complement.
This page is legit a violence prevention site. I tip my hat 🎩
The thing is: Ben from Parks and Rec isn't a simp at all. He is exactly how someone in a healthy relationship and marriage should act. He never pursued an uninterested Leslie relentlessly. From the start the two were into each other but never acted on anything. They both liked each other and from then on began a very balanced, healthy, equal relationship which is how it should work! I absolutely love Ben, he is always so kind, loving, respectful, and supportive which is how a relationship should be.
I don't know you, but I just love a man that doesn't behave like the stereotypical man: he can be sweet, believes in equality, and it's not afraid to push away his proud to be honest and accept his flaws.
Is the Phantom a simp or just a controlling stalker? And where does the simp end and the nice guy begin?
We've had simps and nice guys, let's get a video on incels, the extreme of these tropes
Incel isn’t a trope I think I’ve seen much in media. Do you have examples?
@@Ergoperidot Hal from Megamind
Sugou from SAO
Gaston
Frollo
Zoller from Inglorious Basterds
@@ashleightompkins3200 They don’t self identify as virgins so there’s no way to know that they are incels. Virginity is literally the main characteristic of an incel. They’re very toxic obviously but I don’t feel like it fits
@@ashleightompkins3200, the majority of them act like nice guys though
@@Andyatl2002 And that's what incels believe they are but their behaviour is tainted with the idea of being so nice that any woman they set eyes on should fall at their feet from the first hello.
The narrator’s sincerity and passion can only come from lived experience!
After watching videos on this channel, i am just overwhelmed, by how many factors someone can judge a person..or character
I really do love this “trope” series you guys are doing, excellent 😊👏🏻keep up the good work