I thought that Amy from Little Women was immature, shallow, and selfish but Greta Gerwig's adaptation made me see her in a new light. Amy's speech on marriage and money as a woman is my favorite part of the movie.
Please do a overprotective dad trope Edit: and i mean dad and daughter relationship, how he wants his female kid/kids to stay pure and untouched by other men, but is cool with his male kids being literal predators to other females Edit 2: overprotective mom would be cool too, she worships her son and bullies his girlfriend or wife (there is no woman good enough for her perfect son)
@@dsmyify Wealth isn't usually earned by that person, either. The system is built to keep the wealthy people wealthy, through enheritances, for generations. And keep the poor people poor.
This reminds me of how many Americans viewed bank robbers as something like heroes during the Great Depression. They were striking against the guys who crashed the economy.
I used to really dislike this trope. I despised the stereotype that always assumed women were extremely shameless and manipulative monsters who intend to exploit other people’s money, more often in regard to men. However, in retrospect, knowing how for a long time women couldn’t get a job or even open a bank account in their own name without the written permission of their husband, I feel more sympathetic and sometimes even proud when I see women earn their coin. It’s interesting to see how we’re more understanding and supportive of this trope currently compared to previous generations before.
There's no excuse now. Hasn't been for decades. In Hustlers they're literally just in league with Cardi B and Bill Cosby. This channel is pretty gross for that heroic line.
She was and still is so sadly misunderstood. The persona we judge her for was for the movies only; IRL she was quiet and contemplative with simple tastes, and even her former husband Arthur Miller said she read as many books as he did, that she was anything but vapid. I found a book called "Fragments" years ago that had some of her poetry and scribbled thoughts and she had a whole other talent that could have blossomed with the right help and support.
Her marilyn monroe persona was so much different than her real personality. She was shy, smart, and she even had a stutter. She cared about fame,but she didn't care about money
We live in a society that doesn't really rewards poor people for working hard, while rich people exploit them, so, yeah, f*cking get that bag, specially using all of those stereotypes that have been used to ridicule women
@@JuanWonton its a reaction to you're comment get that bag (as in the woman get that bag not the men) and woman choose to be gold diggers, if they didn't shower the rich men with atention and sexual favours those men would stop the explotation
@@jennerick92jm there's still women being with poor men though, so it's not like poor men aren't in relationships. And it's not like rich men don't know about gold diggers, and sugar babies. Idk if I see it as exploitation, but I do get your point.
@@jennerick92jm the only part of my comment that was gender specific was the last part and even then nothing is stopping poor men from getting the bag, they're also victims of capitalism
When men ask me out by telling me "I'm rich", and that's not their name, I'm like "Ugh. If that's all you've got to recommend yourself, you need to develop your character more."
It's just misogyny, it's fine for men like Leo and Hugh Hefner to date young and beautiful women only for their looks but the moment a woman dates a man for his assets she's a gold digger. People act like those relationships aren't mutually beneficial or that the woman is conning the man, he 100% knows you think Hefner thought he was a catch at his age?
He knew exactly what he was. But a relationship based on "This is a temporary, mutual gross deal" is very different from one based on "I hope he/she dies while we're together, the sooner the better".
@@davestevens6283 Gold diggers don't "hope" someone dies at all that has nothing to do with gold digging. That tends to happen if a gold digger is with a significantly older man like a 65+ year old however the man in that case isn't delusional and many of them purposely seek a relationship because they want to find someone to give their inheritance too, they know they're old and that they'll die soon.
@@abilea4081 You brought up Hefner as an example - so I followed. But in general - a gold digger is pretty much defined as someone for whom their partners' almost sole value is in the monetary advantages they bring Meaning if the partner is worth the same or even more dead - it's better, since they also regain their freedom.
Yeah it’s always “why are these hot young women dating old men” and never “why are these old men dating these hot young women.” I would argue the relationship of gold digging-sugar daddying doesn’t just go both ways, I would argue the men benefit more and ultimately hold more power still. Bc for the men it’s always a choice, and the Wall Street type of money to spare anyways, but for the women, if you have little economic opportunity and you’re constantly disadvantaged in the workplace, are you really “choosing” to enter into these relationships?
It's less of a choice for the men. Most men only get a choice later in life when they get richer. That's the key difference. It's like a man dying in a desert coming across some dirty water. Why do you think they call it being "thirsty"?
@@TributesAndUnique well that type of inequality still exist, I know a few cases of middle age to old men that purposely search very young, beautiful and almost always very poor, whit little or no opportunity for education or anything else, or in a desperate situation. For those girls marring an old man is pure survival, and the thing is as time past, this has I see it evolve normally ends in an abusive relationship, where the men know he has all the power and is not afraid to use it or abuse it. This is not always the case obviously, sometimes both parties understand the situation and is more of a pracmatic situation, but still is not always a stupid girl that wants easy money and doesn't care about anything else.
Also, reputationally, it's always the women that are affected far more significantly than the men. For men, it's just the norm; of course,he's going to date someone younger and hotter but for women, it's considered "immoral" when they also benefit from the arrangement.
Ex👏🏻act👏🏻tly. Besides a woman’s youth is seeing as a commodity. Once is gone is gone. But a guy can be 90 and still be an eligible bachelor. So he always buys young women. So why do people feel sorry for this nasty men???
Debbie from "Addams Family Values" is the definitive, most entertaining example. She's unapologetic about what she does, and Joan Cusack plays her so hammily, that's it's easy to feel bad for her. She also fits in well with the kooky clan, so much so that they simply don't care that she's a serial killer! 😂🖤
Why are gold diggers seen as worse than the people they exploit. The people who get to such a position (a majority of the time) exploit thousands if not millions to get to where they are now so its simply somebody mooching off of the exploiters of exploiters.
@Clever name If "Honestly" means you exploited workers for the sole purpose of making yourself more money, then, yeah they did earn their money honestly. But how do you think you get to the "1%" where do you get the money to invest if you can barely even afford your rent. How do you afford to become a lawyer if you can't afford law school and the monthly loans you are going to accrue, or a doctor with daily tests averaging $100-$300 each, certifications or finding the time to work to attend lectures, do homework , have clinic hours etc. I feel like you don't understand that a majority of people who are going to become lawyers or doctors usually have extremely close relations with their parents allowing them to have access to more living and monetary resources. I myself wanted to become a doctor but I realized I wouldn't be able to financially support myself throughout that time and my mom wouldn't either. It's not that black and white and if you make "your" money from the exploitation of overseas workers and underpay your workers for the value THEY make you then you didn't "honestly" make your money in my opinion and I don't really see the difference between them and a gold digger ethically
@@bannedmann4469 I didn't say they were all cons I said they exploit people (not paying them for their value) and accrue the amount of money THEY make and instead of investing that into their workers (raising wages, adding benefits) a majority of the time, to make more money, they lay people off who are experienced because they cost more and leave just enough of them to train those who are new who they get to pay less and overwork. It's not communist propaganda it's the reality of capitalism, it just sounds unappealing when it's not coming from a right-wing zealot.
Debbie in ‘Addams Family: Family Values’ is a very underrated darkly comic character. Joan Cusack was too good! “Don’t I deserve love...amd jewellery?”
@Erwin Lii she matched the Addams family and 5hey liked her hut she didn't jold the most important Addams Family Value: Family First She didn't want to be in a crowd, she was a loner
First! Do you all think you can do a video on the homemaker and how she's depicted as either very chipper or stressed out or very discontented with the limitations placed on her or reduced to her looks?
Congratulations on being first! 🎊👏🏾 I agree, the housewife is usually depicted as being bored, and wanting a life beyond tending to her husband and children's needs, which tends to lead to an affair with a dashing stranger.
@@trinaq And some period pieces show whether you are married to Ward Cleaver or Don Draper or worse Kevin Whalen from Mrs America factors into your feelings about being a Housewife and your cheeriness too.
I thought the Umbrella Academy plays on this trope very well where the mother, Grace, is actually a robot designed to be the perfect house wife and mother.
I think it’s because the homemaker sort of does depend on a good husband to mother. The husband has to have the same goal of parenting and being a good husband and father, which society no longer champions in men. It’s not exactly a balanced approach since society really doesn’t get that keeping a home, being a wife and managing a child is a lot of work. Especially since the women that do this seldom have less than two kids, they usually have more. It also makes it really difficult depending on the industry for a man to take time off to recover and rest or most men seldom do more than just work. Trust me I grew up in this system. Most housewives end up extremely unhappy as more often than not, the husband eventually gets bored and wants a different vibe. The housewives end up in trouble since they don’t have career experience or connections since they put all their eggs in one basket.
The men who often really hate gold diggers are the ones who don't have enough money to exploit them. Men love gold diggers when they are well off enough to exploit women. I have never seen most "gold digging" women in the real world as villainous. Me. I prefer just to get my own instead of have to fake interest in someone I can't stand. I am way to honest and assertive to pull it off.
@@Acidfunkish Femcles exist. Their subreddit constantly whined about how easy life is for attractive women. They hated men for being seduced by Stacies.
I still think a modern interpretation of a gold digger isn't necessarily heroic; not as villainous as her husband, but ultimately her way of life depends on maintaining her husband's status. unless the gold-digger gives back to the affected community, or works to take away her husband's power, she is just another grifter who benefits from the subjugation of the masses. Note, that I am not saying she is automatically a villain; just that she shouldn't be praised for being self-interested.
You should have also used Reese Witherspoon's character in Vanity Fair, & how she was judged for marrying into a wealthy family instead of staying within her class.
A wise woman once said, " If you are scared of gold digging women, then just date women with their own gold. Stop dating 18 year olds that need a Kickstarter campaign just for dinner. "
I love her i mean she was actually good with the children and was a good teacher to them maybe she was careless at the begining but never mean or evil but eventually during the film she her self learned new lessons and changed and grew out of her toxic behaviours i love her she unlike many gold diggers has redemeing qualities when her ex fiance and his mother kicked her out she just didnt care and made a living for herself you see there was good in her or atleast an ability to depend on herself unlike other gold diggers thats my opinion
Two things I've seen an awful lot of IRL: Men who flaunt their money to attract women, then are insecure that the women they attracted are only after their money. Women who flaunt their sexuality, then are hurt or angry the men they attracted are just after the sex. What they have in common is a willful obliviousness to the connection between HOW they attract and WHAT they attract.
I liked your comment and agree that this happens. But I must cite Marilyn's monologue at the end of Gentlemen Prefer Blondes here for a second. It's just as easy to fall in love with a pooran as a rich man. And just like a man wouldn't marry a girl just because she's pretty, gee, it sure does help. But riddle me this: why aren't gorgeous hit ripped hung pretty boys on your comparison? Hmmmmm? How come men that attract using their sexuality aren't in your example of in real life exploitation anxiety? Probably because when a gorgeous man is wanted by a woman, she wants to LOVE him and marry him and make him happy and satisfy him sexually and emotionally. So a want attracting with her beauty and sexuality and then being seen as only that has every right to feel dehumanized. Why do women adore what they are attracted to while men loathe and exploit and despise women the more attracted they are to them? It would be cool if one could wear a sandwich board over a burqa with our IQ scores and how many languages we speak and how many instruments we play and are EQ level and Big 5 personality traits and psychological assssments to attract a mate. But it doesn't work like that, for one thing. For another even if this hypothetical setting would take place, men would absolutely choose the objectify less intelligent women to lie readily control and to feel superior. But also? Both financial security and sexual attraction are incredibly important facets of romantic partnerships! Just like I love cooking and wining and dining a new partner, I would be legitimately hurt if I found out they ONLY got with me for my meals. So a person has every right to be upset for being so dehumanized as to be appreciated ONLY for one attractive trait instead of as a human that contains multitudes. But even when a woman wants a man JUST FOR MONEY... She wants to give him marriage. Sex. Companionship. Arm candy. A wife. Children. Housework. Emotional labor, etc for that money. That's more than anyone gets from anyone ever. When men use women for sex, they literally just use them as an object and don't even give the woman any sexual pleasure. So it's a false equivalency to suggest both types of exploitations are the same. But I agree with you that the willful ignorance exists. But if a man attracts a woman with money, he gets to control exactly what they do. He has plenty of time to show his personality. Or even his sexual prowess! It SHOULD be the same when a woman attracts with her looks or sexuality.... But somehow we are trained to despise what arouses us.
When I re-watched The Parent Trap as an adult, I was way less inclined to see Meredith as a villain, and much more impressed that she was so independently successful at the age of 26!! Wasn't her fault that she hates camping and the dad (whose name I can't even remember, clearly not as memorable) had way more baggage than she anticipated!! Maybe she dodged a bullet ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@ninjanibba4259 not defending the bad behavior, she was rude af to the kids and that's obviously not okay. I'm just pondering the character in light of this analysis, and in light of seeing the movie again as an adult, much more similar to Meredith than the twins!
@@margaretcummings4146 I kind of feel bad for her because maybe she could of had a nice friendship with the twins had she of been willing. Plus the your ex will always win thing really is super annoying
Show me an old rich man being with an avarege looking woman and is closer to his age and then I'm gonna believe he is there for the love and mutual connection without knowing the woman is there for his money lmao. Gold diggers are always the only ones portrayed as these evil people as if men didn't exploit them in a way too.
This is what I have been saying. These men know! They know! Even with wealthy older men who were previously married, the new woman they are with are much younger and beautiful. They themselves go seek these women.
Why should an old rich man be with an average instead of an young beautiful lively funny woman ? If you could attract Brad Pitt, Leonardo Di Caprio, Dwayne The Rock Johnson, Jason Momoa, Elon Musk, etc you would. No puns intended. This video total comment section is literally women being upset that the most desirable men do not pick them. And simply reading the 50 first comments shows that scientifically proven hypergamy is real because you know even most seek excuses for gold diggers. And this comment section is also proof that ageism is real.
Hustlers: it would've been heroic only if the women gave the money they stole from these Wall street guys to those same firefighters they've been using as an excuse.
Don't a lot of these trophy wives actually spend money in charity to fit in ?? Btw , Hustlers actually refer to the people who cheat and rob in gambling.
The gold digger and the stereotype of the woman who demands jewels came about when women owned very little or no property and this marrying a rich man and getting jewels off him was often the only type of security we had.
@@Phos67 picture this- 1700s your only options are to inherit the family capital (if you're the only child) or marry someone rich enough to secure your well being and rise your family's status. Would you marry someone who benefits both you and your family and the family wants to marry you off to the rich guy (even if you would want to marry for love- no one cares) or to marry a poor lad with no penny in his pocket- the love will dissapear after years of poverty don't ya think?
When Jenny said “this game is rigged, and doesn’t reward people who play by the rules” I felt that so deeply. I have always admired women who full-on go in demanding what they want, and being willing to stop at nothing. Not easily getting tricked up by love. I have been worn out by trying be loving and understanding, and deep down, I wish I would have took these men for whatever their current value was, and simply dipped. Bc when you love a man, you automatically have put yourself at risk. So. Idk... Is it so wrong? 🤷🏾♀️
I have seen so many black cop/father characters in popular culture. Like from B99, Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs or Spiderman Spiderverse. Maybe you guys can make a trope video about it? It would be really great to watch
Nah. The girls in Hustlers were absolutely criminals. 😂 But I get the gist of what y’all are saying. However, this trope is definitely not “liberating”. The so-called gold-digger is no more free than she was before because she’s still dependent on that uneven dynamic. She is just being compensated for it, so she’s a lot more stable (even if she’s no less disposable). That system has brought women stability and survival since forever. We only engaged in it because of our limited options. It’s an old way, but it’s not ideal. The fact that it still persists in modern times only speaks to an ugly reality. It’s nothing to feel positively about. Nobody should *have* to use sexual politics to climb the socioeconomic ladder in 2021. At the end of the day, I think women- and men- should get it how they live it as long as both sides know what’s up. 🤷🏽♀️ But let’s not glamorize these choices. We can empathize with this lifestyle and put into historical context without spinning it.
What men and women look for in the opposite sex is, as the Take pointed out, is instinctual and biological and such shouldn’t be turned into politics anymore than your mouth watering when you smell food should.
@@Vickiluv Yet isn't the ability to move beyond ones primal instincts and urges what makes humans so special? Shouldn't people strife to use their mind, instead of just their instincts?
4:31 "Oh, it's so hard to be good under the capitalist system." Not a thing has changed. I say that to myself every time I attempt to avoid making an amazon purchase but don't want to pay the exorbitant shipping fees on another website.
HERE IS AN IDEA FOR A VIDEO: The Plastic Trope or any other name that refers to women in movies who are obsessed with staying young and beautiful. We see them in movies all the time. A movie that stands out to me the most is Death Becomes Her (Merly Steep and Goldie Hawn). Both women take a mysterious tonic that makes them look young and gorgeous but they pay a hefty price!
Now a days woman are expected to pay half the bills... and most end up doing the majority of the household tasks and childbearing, period tax, and lower wages... so my advice is get a rich man or stay single
@Madama Belladonna true! Just because we have basic standards which these men can’t meet! If they don’t meet then... we don’t need to keep them lol.. pathetic fragile male egos
If both, woman and man agree on this exchange (money/status x tender/sex/attention) then it's OK, It's as clear as traditional marriage. The problem starts when one of them is looking for something else or fooling the other...
There's an excellent Brazilian movie called "The Man Who Copied", which a character says "having a poor father is destiny, having a poor husband is stupidity"
This reminds me of that Whitney Cummings joke that men were the original gold diggers, as in they dug up all the gold and left none for the women so of course we had to use our feminine wiles XD
All I just have to say is that we need to let woman choose what they want we shouldn't shame them for choosing a path we already have a society that shames women horribly
@Me We how does a gold digger harm because last time I checked men can go around looking for a beautiful women they can usually go hit it and quit it which and they can go around with their promiscuous behavior and they are patted on the back but when a women does something that requires her natural needs that benifit her and most likely her children she's now getting shamed
@Me We well all I'm just saying is girls need to invest immediately because us as females kind of have limited time. Because when we leave our prime years things go downhill so if you learn now and play the game we will most likely succeed because evan female animals know to pick the best mate with the best resources birds will mate with a female birds will be big nested bird who can protect. Also look at most female species most resources mean most protect as woman we hold the children and we just we need to keep them in a stable environment sure love is love but love doesn't pay the bills
@Me We lol don't be silly most young girls that runaway from home are not as sheltered and naive they usually had bad childhood or some kind of trauma and matured much faster than their average teenage counterparts and for your information it way better for her to engage in a mutually beneficial relationship based on her own terms than to be taken by some pimp on the streets who will stuff drugs in her to sleep with multiple men and take all the money for himself
@@Acidfunkish yeah that's what I'm saying invest now so later doesn't lead to regret which is why if kids excercise now and keep invested than as adults we are less likely to have joint pains and other bad stuff because we need to take advantage of our youth because sooner or later it will disappear it's the harsh bitter truth
See and i respect that you are calling both bad if thats your opinion. Its just weird to me when people want to pretend that like a golddigger is worse than a beauty/youthdigger.
I think the part of the video taking about sugarbabies and sugardaddies addressed that. Both people are consensually using each other. The old rich men want young beautiful women, and the women want money. I personally think these arrangements are bad because it requires the woman to exploit herself and her body, and the man holds power over her because he knows she is young, dependent, and probably not that financially stable. It's all a mess. I don't think there's anything wrong with guys wanting a beautiful girlfriend or women wanting a boyfriend/husband with lots of money. The problem comes when that's the ONLY reason for the relationship. If he doesn't like anything about the girl except the fact that she's "hot" and eye candy to parade around, he's shallow. And if she can't stand the guy, but is hanging around to get his money and material possessions, she's equally shallow. Yet there are people who are perfectly happy in these kinds of relationships, so what do I know 🤷♀️
I would not characterize Ginger from the movie "Casino" as a gold digger. She was supremely greedy and materialistic (just like the male characters), but she was also entirely up front about who she was in her relationship with Ace Rothstein. HE had to convince HER to get married...! Unlike the typical character type, she wasn't trying to trick anybody into getting what she wanted.
Still, the lie remains: gold diggers and sugar daddies do not really love the person they claim they do. No matter how inspirational or refreshing we may see it.
Can you make a video on any of the following tropes: 1) the wallflower 2) the Eastern European 'villain'? I'd love to see your take on either one of them :)
I'm surprised Daisy from The Great Gatsby wasn't brought up as an example of a gold digger, in high school everyone hated her character for seeming selfish and exploitative
Was she a gold digger, though? In the book she certainly didn't come from a poor family, and she and Gatsby couldn't marry because he had no prospects at the time. Also, she and Tom had known each other since their teens and there was admittedly a toxic love between the two that made her stick with him. Daisy always struck me as just being a lazy, shallow woman who bent to the will of the strongest man, with no real inner compass of her own.
People dare to look down on golddiggers, like looking for rich men to fall in love with is a LESS dignified life than doing menial labor for trust fund rich boy CEOs. Hahahaha
@Christopher Reynolds my comment was about the fake pretend dignity people give to drudgery and the pretend disdain they claim to feel towards golddiggers, when it is obviously much more dignified to find someone to love you and take care of you than it is to be exploited for labor to make billions of dollars for the boss. People call gold diggers whores, meanwhile are performing back breaking labor to line the pockets of the boss who is paying for the gold diggers wonderful lifestyle. So dumb.
Also the ‘Fairy tale princess” who marries a rich prince because she doesn’t seem to want his money...men are happy to bring women up as long as he doesn’t see her as exploitative.
Our narratives are always misogynistic at heart. A woman who goes after a younger guy is called cougar - clearly an insult but a man is called "sugar daddy" and even in this case the woman is the "gold digger " and a negative predatory word.
You forgot the best gold-digger of them all: Daphne from 1959's "Some Like It Hot". She is relentlessly pursued by the millionaire Osgood Fielding III. At first she tries to escape him, but when he proposes, she decides to marry him and then divorce him and take half of his money. She says she will cite the fact that she is actually a man masquerading as a woman in order to hide from the mob as the grounds for the divorce. Shenanigans ensue (if you haven't seen it, watch it, it's a great movie, Marilyn Monroe's in it, but SPOILERS!) and finally, as Daphne and her friends are sailing off in Osgood's boat, she starts to lists reason why he can't marry her. He replies calmly to all her responses. When she finally reveals that she's a man, Osgood simply says, "Well, nobody's perfect." And you're left with the feeling the marriage may go ahead. How's that for subverting the gold digger trope?!
gold diggers and femme fatales are really close, they may be considered evil but they are just smart enough to play the game and get some benefit from it. You know, man want beauty, youth, service, submission but if a woman asks for financial secutiry OMG, how she dare to be so shallow!!! no hate but some man love having double standards
Strange if you claim people to be smart when they go into relationships because of money instead of love. Those women will never be happy for long. A sad life.
You know what I have learned the most from The Take? That the &%*$&! Hayes Code shaped and destroyed so much for women in the US over the 20th century.
More power to the woman who hustles to get her coins. However I smh at the woman who chooses to be the "gold digging" mistress to a married men. The wife & kids didn't agree to have their pockets emptied, the husband did. It's unfair that they should get screwed over because the husband wants his ego stroked
I don't know how to tell you, but pursuing an unhealthy relationship purely for material gain without any love and possibly forcing your children to grow up in a loveless marriage is... bad.
Hey have you considered turning your videos into podcasts and uploading them to Spotify? I'd love to listen to them on the go and I'm sure others will enjoy them as well. Your videos are all brilliant btw
Is there a trope about the status obsessed upper class person who only wants to be with someone who makes them look better, like Warner in Legally Blonde wanting a Jackie instead of Marilyn so he looks more presentable for a political career?? I feel like I've seen that kind of character in different pieces of media.
That would be interesting, if somewhat similar to the gold digger trope. I always see the relationships you described as definitely being more political, like those "power couples" you see in Washington who probably hate each other but know how influential they are as a unit.
@@studiostyx7075 That is exactly what I was thinking. Though the trope also appears with the mean popular (typically) girl wanting to date the popular guy because they look good together, even if they have nothing in common. I've also seen the reverse - perhaps it's less a character trope and more of a narrative trope instead.
I mostly just wanted the movies, but here's a list of all the IPs referenced in this video. If I missed anything, please reply and I'll update the list. Movies: Gentlemen Prefer Blondes (1953) Casino (1995) The Big Lebowski (1998) Gold Diggers of 1933 (1933) Gold Diggers of 1935 (1935) Gold Diggers of 1937 (1936) Gold Diggers of Broadway (1929) Three Broadway Girls Adams Family Values The Parent Trap (1998) The Hustle HeartBreakers(2001) Hustlers Intolerable Cruelty Braveheart Pride and Prejudice (1995) Ocean's 8 (2018) Robin Hood (2018) Tommy Boy (1995) The Producers (2005) Dirty Rotten Scoundrels (1988) Bad Teacher (2011) A Cinderella Story (2004) It takes 2 (1995) Red Headed Woman (1932) How to Marry a Millionaire (1953) The Adventures of Ichabod and Mr. Toad (1949) 42nd Street (1933) Little Women (2019) The Public Enemy (1931) Scarface (1932) Little Caesar (1931) The Girl From Missouri (1934) The Lady Eve (1941) Borrowed Wives (1930) The Women (1939) Black Widow (1987) Woman Haters (1934) Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Rick Bobby (2006) TV: Veronica Mars The Mrs Merton Show A Series of Unfortunate Events (Netflix) Bridgerton The Dave Ramsey Show 30 Rock Modern Family Bloomberg Quicktake Robin Leach The Girls Next Door Million Dollar Matchmaker Megan wants a Millionaire Music: Gold Digger - Kanye West News: How Black and Latina Women Suffer More From the Pay gap - CBS US Officially in Recession - CBS Rihanna - Fenty Beauty Anna Nicole Smith - ABC News The Secret World of Sugar Babies and Sugar Daddies - 60 Minutes Australia How a sugar daddy dates a sugar baby - New York Post Novel: The Neer-Do-Well - Rex Beach Play: The Gold Digger (1919) Hamilton (2020)
I think there is also aspect of people being like "thats not romantic" or "that isn't true love! Marriage and relationships should be about love!". Though honestly, people can be very hypocritical regarding what they believe to be love or romantic :p Plus people have different ideas about love or romance anyway. For some reason most people don't seem to consider having conversation about your mutual future goals, plans and expectations for relationship before you start dating so you can avoid misunderstandings and disagreements down the line that could have been avoided in first place with good communication to be "romantic". (on sidenote, also getting annoyed of romantic comedies where one in pair is suddenly like "we have been dating for years but we never discussed before that one of us is uncomfortable with idea of marriage or having children". Why does all romance media have to be about drama and communication issues?)
Can you do the 'asexual villain' trope? It is a very harmful stereotype that makes it seem like asexuals are evil because of their lack of sexuality. Edit: spelling
Since Valentines is coming up can y’all do a video on unconventional romance and couples in media (like Morticia and Gomez Addams for example). Especially the ones that you’d normally think wouldn’t work, but are actually perfect together
The thing is, there are so many guys who complain that they have to pay on dates all the time. But I’ve offered to pay several times and they always decline, I’ve even had guys show off their money to me. I mean I’m not poor, I could pay, I would pay! But if they’re so insistent on showing me that they’re oh so rich, then sure, be my guest. They do be hypocrites though.
Who wants to see the Take do a video focusing on the Hayes Code? It’s shown up in multiple trope videos and I think merits a closer look in terms of how it broadly shaped how people were portrayed in cinema, as a compliment to the various specific impacts on individual tropes.
Ah, yes, tips. The extra money only pretty women get if they work in the service industry and not any other. There’s still going to be a pay gap, since being a woman affects the trajectory of your career, not just the day to day.
@@lindenshepherd6085 I've seen receptionists take tips too. It's women wherever they are, and it's people like you that ignore all of that illegally unclaimed income that are part of the problem, and also your chauvinistic assumption that only pretty women make tips. At the end of the day, we just don't know how much of the gap will close when tips are claimed, but my money is that it will be quite substantial.
@@lindenshepherd6085 also, you do realize how vastly huge the service industry IS, right? There are more Macdonald's, Jimmy Johns, and Arby's, than warehouses and hair salons. When a woman becomes a waitress, she automatically makes half the wage, as a requirement for tip-taking jobs. That affects the pay gap. Even jobs that don't allow tips, the qomen still take them. Every service job I worked when I was young, Dunkin' Donuts, Jimmy Johns, etc., women werr constantly reprimanded for getting caught using tip cups, but it was never a write-up, just a light scolding. Guys would try, but guys don't make tips, just a general fact. If you're too blind to see that tips are likely the balancing factor in the wage gap, then you really need to step outside of your shelter more often.
Oh, yea, my step uncle and his wife are both plumbers, his wife makes ranfom tips too, and without being mean, she looks like she's a plumber, so your whole "only pretty girls make tips, and only in the service industry," assumption just betrays your ignorance. Unless, you count trades as part of the service industry, which you should stop doing.
I remember someone (who did not like me at all) said to me : "You're a fucking blonde, you will only be a stupid and vapid gold digger." I swear I was thinking 'damn she loves cliché don't she?"
I always loved gold diggers in old films, I understand better why. Great video as always. Is there a way you could include a list of the films and series you refer to, please?
It's weird how it's okay for a rich and powerful man to choose a wife based only on youth, attractiveness and sexuality, like it's the only valuable traits a woman can have. I guess it's good to have stories where women take advantage of men undermining them. Still, the fact that it works this way says something about society.
The old man trope. your typical man's man that knows practically everything there is to know about life. usually does activities like golfing, drinking, smoking, gambling, fishing and hunting once in a while, and sometimes knows how to fix problems.
The Parent Trap was pretty good imho, because I felt like Meredith was so... human! Because she was a fleshed out character with a motive, a story, showed her emotion, what she thought and felt, and had an actual personality. You learned what she likes and hates yadda yadda. And she dared to be vulnerable at times around the kids. And even though she had some shitty motives (selfish), she wasn't inherently evil, she didn't hurt anyone and wasn't abuse as far as I could remember. I wouldn't like her as a person myself, but I do see her as a person. It was pretty good!! Really well acted and well written.
Maybe it's because I was already an adult when I watched Parent Trap for the first time, but I've always struggled with the narrative of Meridith being this villainous gold digger. Like Elaine Hendrix said, she already had her own money and career, and when we meet her for the first time she is actually nice to the child. It's the twins that decide she's got to go - and even then Meridith only really snaps after the kids put a lizard in her hair and pushed her onto a lake while she was asleep lmao. She obviously wasn't a kids person but I do think that they could've made it work if it wasn't for the twin's shenanigans.
Please do the Psycho crush/lover please. Like the characters that either have a crush on one of the main or secondary characters and they’re like obsessed over them. Like they go to their parents house or plan their wedding early. And the secondary or main character is totally creeped out by this and tries to avoid them. Or how they take a good character of a series and they turn her into a psycho lover to the main character (For example: Tonya from One-on-One during the last few episodes of season 1) And how it’s different for a girl’s crush than a boy’s who have a crush on the main or secondary character. (Like if the girl has a crush on the secondary or main character, she’s obsessed over him. But when it’s a boy, he just repeatedly flirts with the girl even though she rejected him. She show this by rolling her eye, ignores him or just let it happens and not care. And when the boy flirt with the girl while everyone ignores it.) (Example is Brady with Michaela during season 1 and 2 of pair of kings)
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I thought that Amy from Little Women was immature, shallow, and selfish but Greta Gerwig's adaptation made me see her in a new light. Amy's speech on marriage and money as a woman is my favorite part of the movie.
Yes!!! God, I love that speech so much. There are so many people who deride women for making a choiceless choice in a system.
Please do a overprotective dad trope
Edit: and i mean dad and daughter relationship, how he wants his female kid/kids to stay pure and untouched by other men, but is cool with his male kids being literal predators to other females
Edit 2: overprotective mom would be cool too, she worships her son and bullies his girlfriend or wife (there is no woman good enough for her perfect son)
They only do female tropes
@@rimcrackerz7726 They do Male Tropes as well, such as "Angry Young Man", "Bad Boy" or "Ladies Man." 💙
Sending Oedipal signals through the roof... or whatever the reverse is
Ughhh i hate that trope
@@trinaq himbo trope, not to mention the countless non gender based ones.
Many men only date women for their beauty and many women only date men for their money but only one group is criticized 🤨
I know it has nothing to do with it, but I effing love your name xD
Not only. Some of us date for love, and stay even when we should leave, because we can't give up on love. Until we finally do...
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That's because beauty isn't earned. Taking something that someone else has earned should be criticised.
@@dsmyify Problem?
@@dsmyify Wealth isn't usually earned by that person, either. The system is built to keep the wealthy people wealthy, through enheritances, for generations. And keep the poor people poor.
This reminds me of how many Americans viewed bank robbers as something like heroes during the Great Depression. They were striking against the guys who crashed the economy.
And the hoboes who hopped the rails.
Interesting!
I used to really dislike this trope. I despised the stereotype that always assumed women were extremely shameless and manipulative monsters who intend to exploit other people’s money, more often in regard to men. However, in retrospect, knowing how for a long time women couldn’t get a job or even open a bank account in their own name without the written permission of their husband, I feel more sympathetic and sometimes even proud when I see women earn their coin. It’s interesting to see how we’re more understanding and supportive of this trope currently compared to previous generations before.
Nah that's just cause you grew up and became a man hating feminist.
So... you're saying the men of today must be judged for the actions of their forefathers?
There's no excuse now. Hasn't been for decades. In Hustlers they're literally just in league with Cardi B and Bill Cosby. This channel is pretty gross for that heroic line.
I feel bad for the amount of misogynistic comments you're gonna get, hon.
Get prepared for the ❄️❄️ comments you’re about to get from people who hate gold diggers
Marilyn Monroe wasn’t much fan of diamonds and jewelry lry, she was down to earth, her most money went to orphanages and foundation
That and the extra she had to pay the housekeepers for her nightmare mess homes.
@@bannedmann4469 Really? I've never heard of this.
She was and still is so sadly misunderstood. The persona we judge her for was for the movies only; IRL she was quiet and contemplative with simple tastes, and even her former husband Arthur Miller said she read as many books as he did, that she was anything but vapid. I found a book called "Fragments" years ago that had some of her poetry and scribbled thoughts and she had a whole other talent that could have blossomed with the right help and support.
Her marilyn monroe persona was so much different than her real personality. She was shy, smart, and she even had a stutter. She cared about fame,but she didn't care about money
@@bannedmann4469 A lot of those claims were likely exaggerated, but by most accounts, her untidiness was a result of her intensifying depression.
We live in a society that doesn't really rewards poor people for working hard, while rich people exploit them, so, yeah, f*cking get that bag, specially using all of those stereotypes that have been used to ridicule women
Soo to hell with poor men right?
@@jennerick92jm they literally said nothing negative about poor men at all, lmao
@@JuanWonton its a reaction to you're comment get that bag (as in the woman get that bag not the men) and woman choose to be gold diggers, if they didn't shower the rich men with atention and sexual favours those men would stop the explotation
@@jennerick92jm there's still women being with poor men though, so it's not like poor men aren't in relationships. And it's not like rich men don't know about gold diggers, and sugar babies. Idk if I see it as exploitation, but I do get your point.
@@jennerick92jm the only part of my comment that was gender specific was the last part and even then nothing is stopping poor men from getting the bag, they're also victims of capitalism
When men ask me out by telling me "I'm rich", and that's not their name, I'm like "Ugh. If that's all you've got to recommend yourself, you need to develop your character more."
Funny how they complain about only gold diggers wanting them.
It's just misogyny, it's fine for men like Leo and Hugh Hefner to date young and beautiful women only for their looks but the moment a woman dates a man for his assets she's a gold digger. People act like those relationships aren't mutually beneficial or that the woman is conning the man, he 100% knows you think Hefner thought he was a catch at his age?
He knew exactly what he was.
But a relationship based on "This is a temporary, mutual gross deal" is very different from one based on "I hope he/she dies while we're together, the sooner the better".
@@davestevens6283 Gold diggers don't "hope" someone dies at all that has nothing to do with gold digging. That tends to happen if a gold digger is with a significantly older man like a 65+ year old however the man in that case isn't delusional and many of them purposely seek a relationship because they want to find someone to give their inheritance too, they know they're old and that they'll die soon.
@@abilea4081 You brought up Hefner as an example - so I followed.
But in general - a gold digger is pretty much defined as someone for whom their partners' almost sole value is in the monetary advantages they bring
Meaning if the partner is worth the same or even more dead - it's better, since they also regain their freedom.
@@davestevens6283 That's strawman logic you can't just change the definition of gold digger because you assume that's what they all want
@@abilea4081 What's your definition then?
Yeah it’s always “why are these hot young women dating old men” and never “why are these old men dating these hot young women.” I would argue the relationship of gold digging-sugar daddying doesn’t just go both ways, I would argue the men benefit more and ultimately hold more power still. Bc for the men it’s always a choice, and the Wall Street type of money to spare anyways, but for the women, if you have little economic opportunity and you’re constantly disadvantaged in the workplace, are you really “choosing” to enter into these relationships?
It's less of a choice for the men. Most men only get a choice later in life when they get richer. That's the key difference. It's like a man dying in a desert coming across some dirty water. Why do you think they call it being "thirsty"?
@@TributesAndUnique well that type of inequality still exist, I know a few cases of middle age to old men that purposely search very young, beautiful and almost always very poor, whit little or no opportunity for education or anything else, or in a desperate situation. For those girls marring an old man is pure survival, and the thing is as time past, this has I see it evolve normally ends in an abusive relationship, where the men know he has all the power and is not afraid to use it or abuse it. This is not always the case obviously, sometimes both parties understand the situation and is more of a pracmatic situation, but still is not always a stupid girl that wants easy money and doesn't care about anything else.
Also, reputationally, it's always the women that are affected far more significantly than the men. For men, it's just the norm; of course,he's going to date someone younger and hotter but for women, it's considered "immoral" when they also benefit from the arrangement.
@@ananunez1245 YES 90 day fiancé has a couple that exemplifies this. He literally told her she was a “poor Brazilian girl” and he rescued her
Ex👏🏻act👏🏻tly. Besides a woman’s youth is seeing as a commodity. Once is gone is gone. But a guy can be 90 and still be an eligible bachelor. So he always buys young women. So why do people feel sorry for this nasty men???
Debbie from "Addams Family Values" is the definitive, most entertaining example. She's unapologetic about what she does, and Joan Cusack plays her so hammily, that's it's easy to feel bad for her. She also fits in well with the kooky clan, so much so that they simply don't care that she's a serial killer! 😂🖤
If anything, I think they like her better for it
Don't I deserve love... And jewelry?
@@taylor_green_9 If only she didn’t wear pastels, she would’ve been fully embraced by Morticia
I mean....
They gave her a Malibu Barbie. Of course it's easy to feel bad for her. Even Morticia agrees.
@@gabrielle6415 Cousin It's wife wore pink to Debbie's wedding shower. I don't know why pastels were a problem.
Why are gold diggers seen as worse than the people they exploit. The people who get to such a position (a majority of the time) exploit thousands if not millions to get to where they are now so its simply somebody mooching off of the exploiters of exploiters.
Please know they’re exploiting for the women’s beauty. It’s a trade off. People just don’t discuss it.
@@tionak Exactly
@Clever name If "Honestly" means you exploited workers for the sole purpose of making yourself more money, then, yeah they did earn their money honestly. But how do you think you get to the "1%" where do you get the money to invest if you can barely even afford your rent. How do you afford to become a lawyer if you can't afford law school and the monthly loans you are going to accrue, or a doctor with daily tests averaging $100-$300 each, certifications or finding the time to work to attend lectures, do homework , have clinic hours etc. I feel like you don't understand that a majority of people who are going to become lawyers or doctors usually have extremely close relations with their parents allowing them to have access to more living and monetary resources. I myself wanted to become a doctor but I realized I wouldn't be able to financially support myself throughout that time and my mom wouldn't either. It's not that black and white and if you make "your" money from the exploitation of overseas workers and underpay your workers for the value THEY make you then you didn't "honestly" make your money in my opinion and I don't really see the difference between them and a gold digger ethically
Most rich people aren't cons. Get that Communist propaganda put of your heads.
@@bannedmann4469 I didn't say they were all cons I said they exploit people (not paying them for their value) and accrue the amount of money THEY make and instead of investing that into their workers (raising wages, adding benefits) a majority of the time, to make more money, they lay people off who are experienced because they cost more and leave just enough of them to train those who are new who they get to pay less and overwork. It's not communist propaganda it's the reality of capitalism, it just sounds unappealing when it's not coming from a right-wing zealot.
Debbie in ‘Addams Family: Family Values’ is a very underrated darkly comic character. Joan Cusack was too good! “Don’t I deserve love...amd jewellery?”
Morticia completely understood her viewpoint... aside from the pastels of course 😂
@@tionak Iconic Moment.
@Erwin Lii I think they did accept her in the end. She was buried in the Adam's graveyard.
@Erwin Lii she matched the Addams family and 5hey liked her hut she didn't jold the most important Addams Family Value: Family First
She didn't want to be in a crowd, she was a loner
@@stahppls2293 They're not a crowd, they're outcasts. They're the other, always have been. You really missed a key element there.
First!
Do you all think you can do a video on the homemaker and how she's depicted as either very chipper or stressed out or very discontented with the limitations placed on her or reduced to her looks?
it says 5 mins ago but this comment says 22 hours ago yt is drunkk
Congratulations on being first! 🎊👏🏾 I agree, the housewife is usually depicted as being bored, and wanting a life beyond tending to her husband and children's needs, which tends to lead to an affair with a dashing stranger.
@@trinaq And some period pieces show whether you are married to Ward Cleaver or Don Draper or worse Kevin Whalen from Mrs America factors into your feelings about being a Housewife and your cheeriness too.
I thought the Umbrella Academy plays on this trope very well where the mother, Grace, is actually a robot designed to be the perfect house wife and mother.
I think it’s because the homemaker sort of does depend on a good husband to mother. The husband has to have the same goal of parenting and being a good husband and father, which society no longer champions in men. It’s not exactly a balanced approach since society really doesn’t get that keeping a home, being a wife and managing a child is a lot of work. Especially since the women that do this seldom have less than two kids, they usually have more. It also makes it really difficult depending on the industry for a man to take time off to recover and rest or most men seldom do more than just work. Trust me I grew up in this system. Most housewives end up extremely unhappy as more often than not, the husband eventually gets bored and wants a different vibe. The housewives end up in trouble since they don’t have career experience or connections since they put all their eggs in one basket.
The men who often really hate gold diggers are the ones who don't have enough money to exploit them. Men love gold diggers when they are well off enough to exploit women. I have never seen most "gold digging" women in the real world as villainous.
Me. I prefer just to get my own instead of have to fake interest in someone I can't stand. I am way to honest and assertive to pull it off.
I couldn't personally do it, but I don't blame others for it.
Similar to how unattractive women tend to hate Gold Diggers and Stacies. They know they can’t use their looks to secure a wealthy man.
@@timothyo718 Yeah, no.
@Ru paul Yeah, some crappy HUMANS get butthurt. Not women, in general.
Oblivious misogynists.
@@Acidfunkish
Femcles exist. Their subreddit constantly whined about how easy life is for attractive women. They hated men for being seduced by Stacies.
I'm pretty disappointed because this video didn't feature Lola from Shark Tale. I thought she was interesting take on gold digger.
Yeah, she was a fish.
She's dangereous~ super bad~ you better watch out she'll take the cash~ she is a gold digger~
@@despinasgarden.4100
That song was fun.
@@mirandastewart3544 yep, when i was a kid didn't understand inglish (spanish is my first lenguaje) so i never catched what it means
I still think a modern interpretation of a gold digger isn't necessarily heroic; not as villainous as her husband, but ultimately her way of life depends on maintaining her husband's status. unless the gold-digger gives back to the affected community, or works to take away her husband's power, she is just another grifter who benefits from the subjugation of the masses. Note, that I am not saying she is automatically a villain; just that she shouldn't be praised for being self-interested.
*The Spoiled Brat Trope*
Yes, please, I'd love to see them analyse what happens when a parent overinduldges their child. The best example would be Veruca Salt! 😊
Yes. And how it leads to Karen and Becky behavior and about how parents punish the kids they coddled in the first place
Angelica Pickles.
@@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254 lol! Becky behavior 😂
@@coreysmith733 facts.
You should have also used Reese Witherspoon's character in Vanity Fair, & how she was judged for marrying into a wealthy family instead of staying within her class.
It's just a way to control the population, making sure they know their place
A wise woman once said, " If you are scared of gold digging women, then just date women with their own gold. Stop dating 18 year olds that need a Kickstarter campaign just for dinner. "
problem is they still want the grateful eighteen year olds.
Whitney Cummings!
‘Bad Teacher’ was quite interesting. You never know whether to hate her or love her. In my opinion, I thought Cameron Diaz was fabulous!
I agree!
And she made a great money deal for it! Such a queen
I love her i mean she was actually good with the children and was a good teacher to them maybe she was careless at the begining but never mean or evil but eventually during the film she her self learned new lessons and changed and grew out of her toxic behaviours i love her she unlike many gold diggers has redemeing qualities when her ex fiance and his mother kicked her out she just didnt care and made a living for herself you see there was good in her or atleast an ability to depend on herself unlike other gold diggers thats my opinion
I love that movie so much
Two things I've seen an awful lot of IRL:
Men who flaunt their money to attract women, then are insecure that the women they attracted are only after their money.
Women who flaunt their sexuality, then are hurt or angry the men they attracted are just after the sex.
What they have in common is a willful obliviousness to the connection between HOW they attract and WHAT they attract.
🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🥰🙌🙌
Pretty much.
Well... this is actually the best comment on the whole video.
This is IT!
I liked your comment and agree that this happens.
But I must cite Marilyn's monologue at the end of Gentlemen Prefer Blondes here for a second.
It's just as easy to fall in love with a pooran as a rich man. And just like a man wouldn't marry a girl just because she's pretty, gee, it sure does help.
But riddle me this: why aren't gorgeous hit ripped hung pretty boys on your comparison? Hmmmmm?
How come men that attract using their sexuality aren't in your example of in real life exploitation anxiety?
Probably because when a gorgeous man is wanted by a woman, she wants to LOVE him and marry him and make him happy and satisfy him sexually and emotionally.
So a want attracting with her beauty and sexuality and then being seen as only that has every right to feel dehumanized.
Why do women adore what they are attracted to while men loathe and exploit and despise women the more attracted they are to them?
It would be cool if one could wear a sandwich board over a burqa with our IQ scores and how many languages we speak and how many instruments we play and are EQ level and Big 5 personality traits and psychological assssments to attract a mate.
But it doesn't work like that, for one thing. For another even if this hypothetical setting would take place, men would absolutely choose the objectify less intelligent women to lie readily control and to feel superior.
But also? Both financial security and sexual attraction are incredibly important facets of romantic partnerships!
Just like I love cooking and wining and dining a new partner, I would be legitimately hurt if I found out they ONLY got with me for my meals.
So a person has every right to be upset for being so dehumanized as to be appreciated ONLY for one attractive trait instead of as a human that contains multitudes.
But even when a woman wants a man JUST FOR MONEY...
She wants to give him marriage. Sex. Companionship. Arm candy. A wife. Children. Housework. Emotional labor, etc for that money. That's more than anyone gets from anyone ever.
When men use women for sex, they literally just use them as an object and don't even give the woman any sexual pleasure.
So it's a false equivalency to suggest both types of exploitations are the same.
But I agree with you that the willful ignorance exists.
But if a man attracts a woman with money, he gets to control exactly what they do. He has plenty of time to show his personality. Or even his sexual prowess!
It SHOULD be the same when a woman attracts with her looks or sexuality....
But somehow we are trained to despise what arouses us.
When I re-watched The Parent Trap as an adult, I was way less inclined to see Meredith as a villain, and much more impressed that she was so independently successful at the age of 26!! Wasn't her fault that she hates camping and the dad (whose name I can't even remember, clearly not as memorable) had way more baggage than she anticipated!! Maybe she dodged a bullet ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You actually sound like you defend her for being clearly manipulative towards the dad and the girls
@@ninjanibba4259 not defending the bad behavior, she was rude af to the kids and that's obviously not okay. I'm just pondering the character in light of this analysis, and in light of seeing the movie again as an adult, much more similar to Meredith than the twins!
@@margaretcummings4146 I kind of feel bad for her because maybe she could of had a nice friendship with the twins had she of been willing. Plus the your ex will always win thing really is super annoying
Right!
Show me an old rich man being with an avarege looking woman and is closer to his age and then I'm gonna believe he is there for the love and mutual connection without knowing the woman is there for his money lmao. Gold diggers are always the only ones portrayed as these evil people as if men didn't exploit them in a way too.
Bingo. Men exploit the women that do the exploiting. It's men's fault.
@@dsmyify yeah that's exactly what I wrote and you read that absolutely correctly, good job for understanding my point! 👏👌
This is what I have been saying. These men know! They know! Even with wealthy older men who were previously married, the new woman they are with are much younger and beautiful. They themselves go seek these women.
Take away all reason and accountability.
Why should an old rich man be with an average instead of an young beautiful lively funny woman ? If you could attract Brad Pitt, Leonardo Di Caprio, Dwayne The Rock Johnson, Jason Momoa, Elon Musk, etc you would. No puns intended.
This video total comment section is literally women being upset that the most desirable men do not pick them.
And simply reading the 50 first comments shows that scientifically proven hypergamy is real because you know even most seek excuses for gold diggers.
And this comment section is also proof that ageism is real.
Hustlers: it would've been heroic only if the women gave the money they stole from these Wall street guys to those same firefighters they've been using as an excuse.
If men drugged & steal from women, would that be righteous.
Yeah it's pretty funny to compare people to Robin Hood when they steal from the rich and... buy luxury goods.
Yup. Excuses.
Hustlers was a trash movie
Don't a lot of these trophy wives actually spend money in charity to fit in ?? Btw , Hustlers actually refer to the people who cheat and rob in gambling.
Inserting Rihanna’s clip when you mention self made billionaire, I really like that. She is in fact a self made billionaire
...and that accountant who stole money from her is a hero according to this video.
@@bannedmann4469 did the account have a romantic relationship with her
@Erwin Lii and how is that....
The gold digger and the stereotype of the woman who demands jewels came about when women owned very little or no property and this marrying a rich man and getting jewels off him was often the only type of security we had.
Why not just marry for love?
@@Phos67 picture this- 1700s your only options are to inherit the family capital (if you're the only child) or marry someone rich enough to secure your well being and rise your family's status. Would you marry someone who benefits both you and your family and the family wants to marry you off to the rich guy (even if you would want to marry for love- no one cares) or to marry a poor lad with no penny in his pocket- the love will dissapear after years of poverty don't ya think?
When Jenny said “this game is rigged, and doesn’t reward people who play by the rules” I felt that so deeply. I have always admired women who full-on go in demanding what they want, and being willing to stop at nothing. Not easily getting tricked up by love. I have been worn out by trying be loving and understanding, and deep down, I wish I would have took these men for whatever their current value was, and simply dipped. Bc when you love a man, you automatically have put yourself at risk. So. Idk... Is it so wrong? 🤷🏾♀️
I feel the exact same
Not at all. I wish I was more like them frankly. I've erred towards what you said, to no avail.
Yes. Two wrongs don't make a right. Using people is wrong.
This just speaks volumes about your bad taste in men.
Nah girl, its very valid feeling. Very understandable.
I have seen so many black cop/father characters in popular culture. Like from B99, Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs or Spiderman Spiderverse. Maybe you guys can make a trope video about it? It would be really great to watch
Include Family matters and Lincoln Heights too
Nah. The girls in Hustlers were absolutely criminals. 😂 But I get the gist of what y’all are saying. However, this trope is definitely not “liberating”. The so-called gold-digger is no more free than she was before because she’s still dependent on that uneven dynamic. She is just being compensated for it, so she’s a lot more stable (even if she’s no less disposable). That system has brought women stability and survival since forever. We only engaged in it because of our limited options. It’s an old way, but it’s not ideal. The fact that it still persists in modern times only speaks to an ugly reality. It’s nothing to feel positively about. Nobody should *have* to use sexual politics to climb the socioeconomic ladder in 2021.
At the end of the day, I think women- and men- should get it how they live it as long as both sides know what’s up. 🤷🏽♀️ But let’s not glamorize these choices. We can empathize with this lifestyle and put into historical context without spinning it.
I couldn’t have said it better. Kudos
This a a more nuanced take. Based.
What men and women look for in the opposite sex is, as the Take pointed out, is instinctual and biological and such shouldn’t be turned into politics anymore than your mouth watering when you smell food should.
@@Vickiluv Yet isn't the ability to move beyond ones primal instincts and urges what makes humans so special?
Shouldn't people strife to use their mind, instead of just their instincts?
Yes they were thieves. Not Hero's in any sense.
4:31 "Oh, it's so hard to be good under the capitalist system." Not a thing has changed. I say that to myself every time I attempt to avoid making an amazon purchase but don't want to pay the exorbitant shipping fees on another website.
I always root for gold diggers lmao
Same.
Because you are one of them.
@@ivoamari2438 no shame in that💅😏
Secure that bag sis!
@@lostinthestorywithjeremymi9385 Yes, usually they're FAR more entertaining and showy than the bland heroes! 🖤
HERE IS AN IDEA FOR A VIDEO:
The Plastic Trope or any other name that refers to women in movies who are obsessed with staying young and beautiful. We see them in movies all the time. A movie that stands out to me the most is Death Becomes Her (Merly Steep and Goldie Hawn). Both women take a mysterious tonic that makes them look young and gorgeous but they pay a hefty price!
Cool and enjoyable movie with both great actresses.
Now a days woman are expected to pay half the bills... and most end up doing the majority of the household tasks and childbearing, period tax, and lower wages... so my advice is get a rich man or stay single
@@Chris-rg6nm ?
A lot of assumptions here, how about find a man that you love *and* someone who is financially stable huh?
Side note: Is it wrong to expect a woman to pay half the bills in a relationship? Not trying to sound rude or mean!
@@GameChanger-xi4iy what 2 men?! One you love and one who is successful?!
@Madama Belladonna true! Just because we have basic standards which these men can’t meet! If they don’t meet then... we don’t need to keep them lol.. pathetic fragile male egos
If both, woman and man agree on this exchange (money/status x tender/sex/attention) then it's OK, It's as clear as traditional marriage. The problem starts when one of them is looking for something else or fooling the other...
LMAO, "by shamelessly pretending to be attracted to older men" 🤣😂
I am glad that Meredith Blake got the attention she deserves in this video. That character was iconic, perfectly portrayed, and unforgettable.
She was the best part of that movie
There's an excellent Brazilian movie called "The Man Who Copied", which a character says "having a poor father is destiny, having a poor husband is stupidity"
And hypergamy is nature
If you are not a gold digger you're living your life backwards Ladies . men are not seeking average women so why should you seek average men
R.I.P common logic 😂😂😂.
No, don‘t ever make yourself financially dependent on a man. That doesn‘t work and please don’t glamorize it.
@@wutanglza1235 it's dumb to spend it on expensive bags and shoes . stack it. Invest it
I LOVE THIS ENERGY HAHAHA 💀💀💀
@Personal Jesus You know you can do both right?
This reminds me of that Whitney Cummings joke that men were the original gold diggers, as in they dug up all the gold and left none for the women so of course we had to use our feminine wiles XD
All I just have to say is that we need to let woman choose what they want we shouldn't shame them for choosing a path we already have a society that shames women horribly
@Me We how does a gold digger harm because last time I checked men can go around looking for a beautiful women they can usually go hit it and quit it which and they can go around with their promiscuous behavior and they are patted on the back but when a women does something that requires her natural needs that benifit her and most likely her children she's now getting shamed
@Me We well all I'm just saying is girls need to invest immediately because us as females kind of have limited time. Because when we leave our prime years things go downhill so if you learn now and play the game we will most likely succeed because evan female animals know to pick the best mate with the best resources birds will mate with a female birds will be big nested bird who can protect. Also look at most female species most resources mean most protect as woman we hold the children and we just we need to keep them in a stable environment sure love is love but love doesn't pay the bills
@Me We lol don't be silly most young girls that runaway from home are not as sheltered and naive they usually had bad childhood or some kind of trauma and matured much faster than their average teenage counterparts and for your information it way better for her to engage in a mutually beneficial relationship based on her own terms than to be taken by some pimp on the streets who will stuff drugs in her to sleep with multiple men and take all the money for himself
@az_koala 30+ women aren't what wealthy trophy-wife seekers are looking for.
@@Acidfunkish yeah that's what I'm saying invest now so later doesn't lead to regret which is why if kids excercise now and keep invested than as adults we are less likely to have joint pains and other bad stuff because we need to take advantage of our youth because sooner or later it will disappear it's the harsh bitter truth
Wanting men only for their money is just as bad as wanting women only for their body. Call it what you want, but that's true.
See and i respect that you are calling both bad if thats your opinion. Its just weird to me when people want to pretend that like a golddigger is worse than a beauty/youthdigger.
I think the part of the video taking about sugarbabies and sugardaddies addressed that. Both people are consensually using each other. The old rich men want young beautiful women, and the women want money. I personally think these arrangements are bad because it requires the woman to exploit herself and her body, and the man holds power over her because he knows she is young, dependent, and probably not that financially stable.
It's all a mess. I don't think there's anything wrong with guys wanting a beautiful girlfriend or women wanting a boyfriend/husband with lots of money. The problem comes when that's the ONLY reason for the relationship. If he doesn't like anything about the girl except the fact that she's "hot" and eye candy to parade around, he's shallow. And if she can't stand the guy, but is hanging around to get his money and material possessions, she's equally shallow. Yet there are people who are perfectly happy in these kinds of relationships, so what do I know 🤷♀️
I would not characterize Ginger from the movie "Casino" as a gold digger. She was supremely greedy and materialistic (just like the male characters), but she was also entirely up front about who she was in her relationship with Ace Rothstein. HE had to convince HER to get married...! Unlike the typical character type, she wasn't trying to trick anybody into getting what she wanted.
Could you do the "fiery redhead girl with freckles" trope? Examples: Anne Shirley, Annie, Pippi Longstocking.
Also: Ygritte, Mystique, Sansa Stark (Kind of) Black Widow, Merida, Jessie from Toy Story, Donna Pinciotti, Jean Grey
@@christinlucia1469 Yes, I just didn't want the example list to go on forever, lol
This is actually a really common trope I've seen in a lot of movies, I wonder why I didn't pick up on it
Also Pepper Pots in Iron Man
Those old movies look gorgeous, way better than almost anything after the 80s.
Before the 1980s even.
I like the 90s movies too. The film has a softness to it
Ain’t no thing wrong with wanting money
But it's wrong when you're after someone just got his/her money.
Long as you dont exploit people for it
@@beastcarleeto707 Everyone is exploited
There‘s something wrong with wanting anything if it means you cause harm to someone else
@@wutanglza1235 A golddigger isn't as harmful as other ways of making money. If a guy is that dumb to go broke supporting someone then he deserved it.
Still, the lie remains: gold diggers and sugar daddies do not really love the person they claim they do.
No matter how inspirational or refreshing we may see it.
ahh yes, a video about my future
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omgggg sameeeeeeee
lmao for real🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 you go girl/boy!
Yes ma'am
Same
Can you make a video on any of the following tropes:
1) the wallflower
2) the Eastern European 'villain'?
I'd love to see your take on either one of them :)
I'm surprised Daisy from The Great Gatsby wasn't brought up as an example of a gold digger, in high school everyone hated her character for seeming selfish and exploitative
Was she a gold digger, though? In the book she certainly didn't come from a poor family, and she and Gatsby couldn't marry because he had no prospects at the time. Also, she and Tom had known each other since their teens and there was admittedly a toxic love between the two that made her stick with him. Daisy always struck me as just being a lazy, shallow woman who bent to the will of the strongest man, with no real inner compass of her own.
People dare to look down on golddiggers, like looking for rich men to fall in love with is a LESS dignified life than doing menial labor for trust fund rich boy CEOs. Hahahaha
@Christopher Reynolds my comment was about the fake pretend dignity people give to drudgery and the pretend disdain they claim to feel towards golddiggers, when it is obviously much more dignified to find someone to love you and take care of you than it is to be exploited for labor to make billions of dollars for the boss.
People call gold diggers whores, meanwhile are performing back breaking labor to line the pockets of the boss who is paying for the gold diggers wonderful lifestyle.
So dumb.
Also the ‘Fairy tale princess” who marries a rich prince because she doesn’t seem to want his money...men are happy to bring women up as long as he doesn’t see her as exploitative.
Melania, we see you!
Amber Heard, we see you :-)
It's a transaction her youth and beauty for his money.
Our narratives are always misogynistic at heart. A woman who goes after a younger guy is called cougar - clearly an insult but a man is called "sugar daddy" and even in this case the woman is the "gold digger " and a negative predatory word.
The word cougar is an insult?
Hey now, I like cougars 😀
Where I am from an older man that dates a much younger women is called a cradle snatcher. So... there's that.
@Ru paul I can give a list boy. Stop the bs.
How is "cougar" an insult?
The Pre Code Hollywood talkies are my favorite era of film. So much was lost that we are only recently getting back.
U know I’d love to see a breakdown of the idea of “wealth” and “freedom” often being equated
You forgot the best gold-digger of them all: Daphne from 1959's "Some Like It Hot". She is relentlessly pursued by the millionaire Osgood Fielding III. At first she tries to escape him, but when he proposes, she decides to marry him and then divorce him and take half of his money. She says she will cite the fact that she is actually a man masquerading as a woman in order to hide from the mob as the grounds for the divorce. Shenanigans ensue (if you haven't seen it, watch it, it's a great movie, Marilyn Monroe's in it, but SPOILERS!) and finally, as Daphne and her friends are sailing off in Osgood's boat, she starts to lists reason why he can't marry her. He replies calmly to all her responses. When she finally reveals that she's a man, Osgood simply says, "Well, nobody's perfect." And you're left with the feeling the marriage may go ahead. How's that for subverting the gold digger trope?!
Daphne is definitely one of the best gold diggers.
gold diggers and femme fatales are really close, they may be considered evil but they are just smart enough to play the game and get some benefit from it. You know, man want beauty, youth, service, submission but if a woman asks for financial secutiry OMG, how she dare to be so shallow!!! no hate but some man love having double standards
Asking for financial security is something and exploiting their partners is something else
Strange if you claim people to be smart when they go into relationships because of money instead of love. Those women will never be happy for long. A sad life.
You know what I have learned the most from The Take? That the &%*$&! Hayes Code shaped and destroyed so much for women in the US over the 20th century.
More power to the woman who hustles to get her coins. However I smh at the woman who chooses to be the "gold digging" mistress to a married men. The wife & kids didn't agree to have their pockets emptied, the husband did. It's unfair that they should get screwed over because the husband wants his ego stroked
The mistress knows that the husband has a wife and kids.
I don't know how to tell you, but pursuing an unhealthy relationship purely for material gain without any love and possibly forcing your children to grow up in a loveless marriage is... bad.
That is a ho,not a gold digger
It’s called a hussle, sweetheart
No it's called stealing sweetheart
It’s called being lazy
@@ninjanibba4259 it’s a reference to zootopia
Do a video on disabled characters!
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Do older men really think younger women are attracted to them outside of money?? We want to have a family with people who are in our age range.
Say that about yourself, darling. I can't stand Millennials males.
Make a video about the “rags-to-riches” trope.
Debbie in addams family is still iconic
Hey have you considered turning your videos into podcasts and uploading them to Spotify? I'd love to listen to them on the go and I'm sure others will enjoy them as well. Your videos are all brilliant btw
The obviously bad photoshop of the merch on celebrities made me laugh so hard I want one 😂
Is there a trope about the status obsessed upper class person who only wants to be with someone who makes them look better, like Warner in Legally Blonde wanting a Jackie instead of Marilyn so he looks more presentable for a political career?? I feel like I've seen that kind of character in different pieces of media.
That would be interesting, if somewhat similar to the gold digger trope. I always see the relationships you described as definitely being more political, like those "power couples" you see in Washington who probably hate each other but know how influential they are as a unit.
@@studiostyx7075 That is exactly what I was thinking. Though the trope also appears with the mean popular (typically) girl wanting to date the popular guy because they look good together, even if they have nothing in common. I've also seen the reverse - perhaps it's less a character trope and more of a narrative trope instead.
The Take dropping a Gold Digger vid while Venus is in Capricorn 👀
Well, the ending just makes it sound like marriage is an outdated social construct.
@Milena Shvedova Probably
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Great video can you do the Native American stereotype in movies and shows thank you 😊.
Very good 'TAKE' as usual lol. Please do the middle child trope?
I mostly just wanted the movies, but here's a list of all the IPs referenced in this video. If I missed anything, please reply and I'll update the list.
Movies:
Gentlemen Prefer Blondes (1953)
Casino (1995)
The Big Lebowski (1998)
Gold Diggers of 1933 (1933)
Gold Diggers of 1935 (1935)
Gold Diggers of 1937 (1936)
Gold Diggers of Broadway (1929)
Three Broadway Girls
Adams Family Values
The Parent Trap (1998)
The Hustle
HeartBreakers(2001)
Hustlers
Intolerable Cruelty
Braveheart
Pride and Prejudice (1995)
Ocean's 8 (2018)
Robin Hood (2018)
Tommy Boy (1995)
The Producers (2005)
Dirty Rotten Scoundrels (1988)
Bad Teacher (2011)
A Cinderella Story (2004)
It takes 2 (1995)
Red Headed Woman (1932)
How to Marry a Millionaire (1953)
The Adventures of Ichabod and Mr. Toad (1949)
42nd Street (1933)
Little Women (2019)
The Public Enemy (1931)
Scarface (1932)
Little Caesar (1931)
The Girl From Missouri (1934)
The Lady Eve (1941)
Borrowed Wives (1930)
The Women (1939)
Black Widow (1987)
Woman Haters (1934)
Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Rick Bobby (2006)
TV:
Veronica Mars
The Mrs Merton Show
A Series of Unfortunate Events (Netflix)
Bridgerton
The Dave Ramsey Show
30 Rock
Modern Family
Bloomberg Quicktake
Robin Leach
The Girls Next Door
Million Dollar Matchmaker
Megan wants a Millionaire
Music:
Gold Digger - Kanye West
News:
How Black and Latina Women Suffer More From the Pay gap - CBS
US Officially in Recession - CBS
Rihanna - Fenty Beauty
Anna Nicole Smith - ABC News
The Secret World of Sugar Babies and Sugar Daddies - 60 Minutes Australia
How a sugar daddy dates a sugar baby - New York Post
Novel:
The Neer-Do-Well - Rex Beach
Play:
The Gold Digger (1919)
Hamilton (2020)
I think there is also aspect of people being like "thats not romantic" or "that isn't true love! Marriage and relationships should be about love!". Though honestly, people can be very hypocritical regarding what they believe to be love or romantic :p Plus people have different ideas about love or romance anyway. For some reason most people don't seem to consider having conversation about your mutual future goals, plans and expectations for relationship before you start dating so you can avoid misunderstandings and disagreements down the line that could have been avoided in first place with good communication to be "romantic".
(on sidenote, also getting annoyed of romantic comedies where one in pair is suddenly like "we have been dating for years but we never discussed before that one of us is uncomfortable with idea of marriage or having children". Why does all romance media have to be about drama and communication issues?)
I really appreciate when you put what film/series a clip is from.
"Vicki" From the OG parent trap is my fave Gold digger. She was so stinkin gorgeous, I might be a little gay for her.
I love that she plays Meredith's mom in the remake. That's a fun little cameo.
You should do a video on the bad teacher trope (AP Bio, Teachers, Bad Teacher, Community, Bad Education)
Can you do the 'asexual villain' trope? It is a very harmful stereotype that makes it seem like asexuals are evil because of their lack of sexuality.
Edit: spelling
Wait that’s a thing?? Which villains are asexual, I must’ve missed the subtext
Where that trope from? I've never seen a asexual villiain before.
That exists???
You mean like Buffalo Bill from "Silence of the Lambs"?
Voldemort
Since Valentines is coming up can y’all do a video on unconventional romance and couples in media (like Morticia and Gomez Addams for example). Especially the ones that you’d normally think wouldn’t work, but are actually perfect together
The thing is, there are so many guys who complain that they have to pay on dates all the time. But I’ve offered to pay several times and they always decline, I’ve even had guys show off their money to me. I mean I’m not poor, I could pay, I would pay! But if they’re so insistent on showing me that they’re oh so rich, then sure, be my guest. They do be hypocrites though.
Tbh it's kinda easy to avoid gold diggers. The problem is when kids get brought up in this "arrangement".
Can you guys please do some Parks and Recreation videos? Like one on Ben and Leslie's relationship or maybe Ron?
The song literally explains it all
What is the clip around 4:30 "Oh, it's so hard to be good under the capitalist system" from?
I figured it out. It's from golddiggers of 1937, about an hour and ten minutes in.
Who wants to see the Take do a video focusing on the Hayes Code? It’s shown up in multiple trope videos and I think merits a closer look in terms of how it broadly shaped how people were portrayed in cinema, as a compliment to the various specific impacts on individual tropes.
I'd like to see how fast that pay gap closes once women start claiming their tips.
Ah, yes, tips. The extra money only pretty women get if they work in the service industry and not any other. There’s still going to be a pay gap, since being a woman affects the trajectory of your career, not just the day to day.
@@lindenshepherd6085 I've seen receptionists take tips too. It's women wherever they are, and it's people like you that ignore all of that illegally unclaimed income that are part of the problem, and also your chauvinistic assumption that only pretty women make tips. At the end of the day, we just don't know how much of the gap will close when tips are claimed, but my money is that it will be quite substantial.
@@lindenshepherd6085 also, you do realize how vastly huge the service industry IS, right? There are more Macdonald's, Jimmy Johns, and Arby's, than warehouses and hair salons. When a woman becomes a waitress, she automatically makes half the wage, as a requirement for tip-taking jobs. That affects the pay gap. Even jobs that don't allow tips, the qomen still take them. Every service job I worked when I was young, Dunkin' Donuts, Jimmy Johns, etc., women werr constantly reprimanded for getting caught using tip cups, but it was never a write-up, just a light scolding. Guys would try, but guys don't make tips, just a general fact. If you're too blind to see that tips are likely the balancing factor in the wage gap, then you really need to step outside of your shelter more often.
Oh, yea, my step uncle and his wife are both plumbers, his wife makes ranfom tips too, and without being mean, she looks like she's a plumber, so your whole "only pretty girls make tips, and only in the service industry," assumption just betrays your ignorance. Unless, you count trades as part of the service industry, which you should stop doing.
I love this episode- I have always been in awe of gold-diggers
I remember someone (who did not like me at all) said to me : "You're a fucking blonde, you will only be a stupid and vapid gold digger." I swear I was thinking 'damn she loves cliché don't she?"
I always loved gold diggers in old films, I understand better why.
Great video as always. Is there a way you could include a list of the films and series you refer to, please?
It's weird how it's okay for a rich and powerful man to choose a wife based only on youth, attractiveness and sexuality, like it's the only valuable traits a woman can have. I guess it's good to have stories where women take advantage of men undermining them. Still, the fact that it works this way says something about society.
A modern gold digger as the protagonist is Audrey Tautou in Hors de Prix (Priceless). The French have a much more romantic take on gold digging.
The old man trope. your typical man's man that knows practically everything there is to know about life. usually does activities like golfing, drinking, smoking, gambling, fishing and hunting once in a while, and sometimes knows how to fix problems.
The Parent Trap was pretty good imho, because I felt like Meredith was so... human! Because she was a fleshed out character with a motive, a story, showed her emotion, what she thought and felt, and had an actual personality. You learned what she likes and hates yadda yadda. And she dared to be vulnerable at times around the kids. And even though she had some shitty motives (selfish), she wasn't inherently evil, she didn't hurt anyone and wasn't abuse as far as I could remember. I wouldn't like her as a person myself, but I do see her as a person. It was pretty good!! Really well acted and well written.
Maybe it's because I was already an adult when I watched Parent Trap for the first time, but I've always struggled with the narrative of Meridith being this villainous gold digger.
Like Elaine Hendrix said, she already had her own money and career, and when we meet her for the first time she is actually nice to the child. It's the twins that decide she's got to go - and even then Meridith only really snaps after the kids put a lizard in her hair and pushed her onto a lake while she was asleep lmao. She obviously wasn't a kids person but I do think that they could've made it work if it wasn't for the twin's shenanigans.
Please do the Psycho crush/lover please.
Like the characters that either have a crush on one of the main or secondary characters and they’re like obsessed over them. Like they go to their parents house or plan their wedding early. And the secondary or main character is totally creeped out by this and tries to avoid them.
Or how they take a good character of a series and they turn her into a psycho lover to the main character
(For example: Tonya from One-on-One during the last few episodes of season 1)
And how it’s different for a girl’s crush than a boy’s who have a crush on the main or secondary character.
(Like if the girl has a crush on the secondary or main character, she’s obsessed over him. But when it’s a boy, he just repeatedly flirts with the girl even though she rejected him. She show this by rolling her eye, ignores him or just let it happens and not care.
And when the boy flirt with the girl while everyone ignores it.)
(Example is Brady with Michaela during season 1 and 2 of pair of kings)
Please do a healthy relationship trope
LOVE this video! I really enjoy the exploration of the trope through time and its relevance to different time periods/eras
The Hayes Code has a fucking lot to answer for
It’s also worth mentioning that in Hustlers they went too far and hurt people who didn’t deserve it