The more I watch feminists and their ideas, the more I become convinced that feminism is literally a product of a severe case of brain cancer, or severe loss of brain cells due to some kind of injury or something What's the matter with you!!!!!!
So in the George of the Jungle live action movie with Brendan Fraser, there's that scene (that someone graciously uploaded to youtube) with him playing with horses while all of Ursula's friends just ogle him. Anyway, Ursula's trying to explain that despite being pretty dumb, he's not entirely stupid, and her best friend chimes in, describing him as having "Sensual Intelligence."
Ross dated Rachel for years over the corse of 236 episodes and was a barely decent. Joey only dated Rachel for 2 episodes and still managed to be a better boyfriend.
@@TheKchar rewatch the episodes where they were roommates and tell me again they had no chemistry. They pulled pranks on each other, Joey broke her out of the fear that Monica instilled in her to never get the carpet dirty. They were fun and wholesome.
@@MadameTamma I think the commenter meant ROMANTIC chemistry. Because obviously friends have platonic chemistry, but that it’s not the same as romantic chemistry.
i like the himbo until it goes too far, joey tribbiani for example. at the start of friends he was a bit dumb but was self sufficient and street smart as well. by the end of the series he was just a dumb hot guy with no other personality, the best example being the episode when phoebe teaches him french
Yes, these are my thoughts EXACTLY! I liked Joey more when he was moderately dumb, but still competent. According to Matt Leblanc, he thought it might be funnier if Joey was the "Idiot Friend", but he became TOO unrealistically stupid. It's also ironic that Matt is actually fluent in French in real life. 😅
I agree completely. Through time they dumbed him down significantly, to ridiculous proportions. he was never my favorite character but the way the showrunners treated him was one of the main reasons I couldn’t watch past season 6-7
That's is actually brought up in the Flandering trope, it is basically when a characteristic gets exaggerated over time like Kevin's lack of intelligence from the office or flander from the simsons
@@Hedge_witch just like you can have toxic femininity as well. Women who use the inherent cuteness of femininity to manipulate and get what they want, and also are excessively moody and neurotic. I feel that one, although more common, often goes unmentioned. I also feel that often, women will use the term "toxic male" to just shit on men who don't aggressively pander to them and agree with them.
Hmm I think that its more like both the Chad and the himbo are evolutions of the jock archetype, only one of them demonizes him while the other develops him and lets him be a more complicated person
@@VictoriaMeira7 True enough. What I meant is that in the context of the olden Nerd vs. Chad dichotomy, as used by incels to justify hating women for being "shallow", understanding Chad not as a disrespectful macho man (the harmful jock stereotype, or rather the Gaston type), but as a himbo, can be essential to clarify why this false dichotomy is so disputed among everybody else. That is, women are, in fact, more attracted to the idea of a well-meaning, respectful Chad than to a self-pitying "Nerd", who is as harmful to them as the Gaston version of Chad would be.
I'm pretty sure incels don't hate chads. It's just general jealousy. Like how there are women who act like any desirable woman is a slut. It happens just as much on both sides. The only difference is women are lauded for doing it while men are told to suck it up lmao. It's usually okay though because most men usually want to measure up to the best, instead of making the best measure down to them lol.
I love that you guys used Chris Hemsworth on the thumbnail; whenever I hear the word himbo I immediately think of him and his character in Thor: ragnarok
Preach, I love how dumb characters tend to be the most accepting and least prejudiced, as there's genuinely not a mean bone in their bodies, especially in Joey's case. 😍
The himbo doesn't need to be dumb, just innocent and funny. I'm dating one who is actually really smart, and let me tell you: I don't want to try any other type after this. He's just an amazing person, and so kind
@@kimifw58I have seen a vine, it is in a video of this channel, commenting that the word bimbo is changing its meaning, so it is not necessary to be dumb to be a himbo/bimbo.
Honestly that isn’t a himbo. I’m more attracted to the smart ones who are unique like what you mentioned. This guy could have Aspergers that’s all. They are respectful and don’t degrade women but also super smart and funny but lack social skills. Search up JJ from the skins. He’s my ideal typeeee
I think almost everyone is attracted to people who respect them. A lot of perpetually single people (nothing wrong with being single) don't respect others.
@@kenster8270 Forrest is already himbo. He's cute (duh, he's Tom Hanks) and was shown to be physically fit and strong, as well as unintentionally talented.
I'm not conviced about Geralt. He's not an idiot. Given the fact he's managed to survive in a world where everyone around him wants to kill him, and he does one of the most dangerous jobs in the universe, he clearly has a decent amount of intelligence. Jaskier would fit the trope more. I'm sure someone who read the books more would have better examples, but I dont get a himbo vibe from Geralt.
@@Ray03595 agreed, I was just thinking how he is actually pretty clever, just based on how he has to fight monsters. He just doesn’t take peoples crap and doesn’t care for peoples politics. But he’s not “dumb”.
@@Ray03595 I read the books and played the game. Geralt is the farthest thing from stupid I hate how they keep using him as an example. It’s obvious they didn’t watch the show or bother looking into the franchise as a whole.
Let me correct you. "A man but make it good and gentle." Harmless doesn't mean useless or unable. A himbo does have the capacity to harm, he just doesn't want to. And that's what's attractive.
An ATTRACTIVE man... But make him have emotional intelligence, respect and tenderness. I have no issues being the partner Emotional intelligence is incredibly important in the building of a solid and long-term romantic relationship, and I would like at least an equal if not someone who's better than me at stuff like communicating our feelings, expectations and needs, supporting each other and showing love and respect. I'm not the most socially skilled person, and I'd feel more comfortable in a relationship with someone who's more competent than me in that area. Viceversa, I really don't see how useful would be having a partner with my same high QI score and low social skills. I can work with that if there's love of course, but I don't see how 'logical intelligence' should be higher than 'emotional intelligence' and 'being sexually attractive' in my imaginary Ideal Partner's Requirements List. If 'being a man' means 'making your partner feel loved and secure within your relationship', then different people need different men in their lives, and for many a himbo could be the best manly men they could ever need to feel loved and safe.
There is a downside of this trope, a lot of times the women in the cast are taking avantage of the guy´s dumb nature by making him take of his shirt or caresing his abs like creeps, so it´s incredibly unconfortable for me to see , specially since modern TV would think twice if the genders were reversed (it does happen but most of the time is rigthfully called out by critics).Edit: great you DID bring that up
Mhm. Like you're saying, it's kind of an exchange for the bimbo trope from the late 90s early 00's. They can be fun characters if the writers take the time to cultivate the character well.
i mean, i dont see the problem with either. Let hot people be hot. We're visual creatures, and we naturally objectify people we find attractive. I dont see why there is this big push to have every single character be some deep thinker, or every tv show be masterful works of art. Sometimes you just wanna watch Two Broke Girls, because they have cheap laughs and you wanna watch trash.
that happened recently in that liza koshy netflix movie, she was reduced to the POC best friend sidekick that was really creepy with a mattress salesman smh
What it shows is that intellect and attractiveness can be two very different things. Interestingly, attractiveness and good looks cannot be two very different things, 'cause they are the exact same thing, aren't they?
I dated one, and it was annoying. We couldn't have normal conversations because I had to explain every little thing to him, and I was always the one helping with his problems because he didn't know how to help with mine. I wasn't his girlfriend. I was his mother and therapist.
Gotta say the rise of this trope is one of the best responses to both an arguably outdated trope such as the bimbo and just the current state of gender and gender relations. Everybody needs a himbo.
@@Veronikafenriz Curio did a "Ballad of Himbo Geralt" video that explained why the miniseries version of Geralt is...not as, uh, cynical or savvy as the book version or video game versions. When he gets captured by Torque the Sylvan, miniseries Geralt asks the elf why not live with the humans, and the elf has to basically explain, "We can't live with humans. Because of racism." And miniseries Geralt's response is basically, "Oh noes...you're right...There's racism... :( " which is more of a himbo-level conversation than Geralt would have in other media.
@@Veronikafenriz Also miniseries Geralt's decision to evoke the Law of Surprise. In the books, he does this on purpose because the Witchers recruit infants to make more Witchers, and the babies are more likely to survive training if they are protected by Destiny. In the miniseries, Himbo Geralt seems to think that it's a fun thing to ask for, and doesn't expect that it would give him guardianship over an actual human being. He was expecting a dog, or part of a good harvest.
As much as I love this take on himbos and the future of masculinity, it does bother me that intelligence is looked down upon in romantic relationships. Both himbos and bimbos are, at their core, sexist. A role reversal of gender roles can serve as a way to highlight the issue, but using it as a solution won't solve anything. In fact, it will probably just create a perpetual cycle of "action" and "reaction". In my eyes, the himbo is the 21st century take on prince charming, and the bimbo is the 21st century take on the damsel in distress. After all, two of the defining traits of a prince charming is ... that he looks good and respects women in a societally acceptable way. And one of the defining traits of a damsel in distress is that she's just a price with no critical thinking skills. So instead of looking down upon smart people for being "cynical" or "bossy", it might be time to allow them to find a way to actually move on from the sexist idea that gender defines anything besides your biological features. (Admittedly, I stole this idea from a genderless society from Angela Carter.)
@Quartz I'm guessing there are probably also plenty of intelligent people who are absolute abusive jerks to their partners and plenty of unintelligent people who've a heart of gold
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And he's kinda right. Many people considered by others as "pretty" are treated just like objects, like if people said "you're pretty, shut up and just be pretty"
Wha....? He's not adorable or cute. He grade A attractive. Save the adorable and cute for the men/women that are average, which would be insulting now that I thin k about it as they are not even that. Adorable/cute should stay with what you call the naïve kids.
@@trinaq both words mean kid, probably they derive from the same latin word Edit after looking in the dictionary I found out in latin kid traslated: infans (when the kid doesn't know how to talk) and puer Thx to the comment that said I was wrong to make me notice I've made a mistake
Well, kids (at least young ones) tend to be optimistic and trusting, innocent (ignorant), and striking many adults as stupid (no matter how intelligent).
It’s actually even a bit more primal than that: a guy who wouldn’t murder us (kind, optimistic, sensitive, respectful) who can keep other guys from murdering us (strong, protective)
The Country vs City trope: -Career-person from the city has to go to the country/small-town, initially dislikes it but is charmed by their folksy-wisdom and tractors. -Country/small-town person goes to the city, initially likes it, but dislikes how rampant and chaotic the setting is. It's a frustrating trope because they almost always go, "city life sucks, country/small-town life's better".
Pretty divorced from reality. What a coincidence that in the only episode where the non-city cast goes into the city, every stereotypical bad thing happens to them in the same day. They can be tourists in a foreign place just fine, but when it comes to cities, they're disaster magnets.
I grew up in a rural area and moved to an urban area as soon as I was an adult. Anyone who says rural life is better is either a liar or a heterosexual white person.
You should do a twist on the "Himbo"--the "Manic Pixie Dream Boy." Jack from "Titanic," Steve from "Sex and the City" and Buddy from "Elf" immediately come to mind. I bet there are a bunch of other Manic Pixie Dream Boys in other movies and TV shows I cannot think of right now.
@@minerva4275 He rescues Miranda from her cynicism, workaholism and materialism. Steve softens Miranda up by just doing his thing. He's the most unconventional of the men the SATC women date--sometimes he's unemployed, at other times just a mere bartender. He's soft and cuddly and cute and totally himself. He fits the definition of the "Manic Pixie Dream Girl" to a T, though he's a boy who rescues the girl.
@@Luboman411 I think Miranda rescued herself from workaholism and her old ways. She didn't need him to help her grow, she was managing everything fine on her own, but she wanted him to be by her side anyway, as her equal partner. As for his character, it's funny, I thought he was a boring annoying manchild, at least at first. You have a point though, maybe he seems so boring because his personality was not well fleshed out.
Critically speaking, it says something when the Himbo who always respects women, is often a simpleton. It's as if a man has to be dumb in order to explain why they respect women...
@E N Fitz It's worse than that -- The implication is that a man is only safe if he *lacks the capacity* to harm women. That's analogous to assuming that a woman's desire for autonomy stems from amoral rebelliousness!!!
@@viharsarok they’re just nice? That’s the Himbos’ whole thing. Women shouldn’t get special treatment just for it to count as being respected. Someone just being nice without ulterior motives is good enough. And himbos can harm women, they choose not to. That choice not to hurt and instead to be kind to us is what is attractive, not them being dumb itself. Someone put it in the comments best, someone who chooses to do the kind choice instead of the smart choice is a himbo, which means that himbos can often look dumb even if they’re pretty clever, because they still make dumb choices. That’s why I love All Might as a himbo, even if canonically he’s an intelligent hero who uses stratagems on the daily to fight baddies and teaches a hero class lol. He just fumbles a lot due to his choices, like needing to read a teaching for dummies novel because he’s never done it before but still wants to be a good teacher or choosing a reckless quirkless kid as a successor because he’s got a kind heart. So yeah, dumbness as a requirement by itself looks bad, but it’s not a fair reading to say that a hot, easy to manipulate idiot is the ideal we’re talking about when most comments stress that it’s the respect we desire.
You could've included more Terry Crews and The Rock Johnson clips. I feel like they've taken on himbo type characters. Masculine but not hyper focused on sex or trying to be the smartest person in the room.
“Himbology” 😂 You know, I himbo, you himbo, he/she/me himbo, himbo, himboing. We’ll have thee himbo, himborama, himbology the study of himbo?? IT’S FIRST GRADE
@@pn7134 he kept trying to make nudity a rule of the apartment when living with Rachel, he was really creepy all the Time although very loyal. And yeah, treated women like trash :)
growing up I respected the smart guy characters for their intellect but, as you rightly pointed out, I found their demeaning, misogynistic, and incel like qualities distasteful. Then I found the himbo and I admired the character trope ever since. While I still value intellect, the qualities of genuine kindness and optimism exemplified in the himbo are just as important to me. Watching this video showed me exactly why my favorite character in almost ever show, or movie I watch is the himbo. Also I found that Steve Urkel was the perfect exemplification of a balance between the smart guy intelligence and the himbo personality.
I just like how the himbo never tries to pretend to be someone else. They are aware they aren’t the brightest but make up for that in many other ways such as being caring, funny, protective, and respectful. Himbos also almost never cause drama because there around just to have a good time.
Omg this is the explanation of why I love Chris Hemsworth and Chris Pratt 🤯 you cracked the code girls! Also Kronk...he is just the best, is funny because I'm asexual so I don't really care of the abs and "hot" aspect of the himbos, for me they are just Lovable handsome dorks too good for this world :'3
One of the reasons I adore Himbos as a trope is because the term Bimbo is often used to make fun of women, while Himbos are often used in a positive way, also because I love the lesbian and her emotional support Himbo trope, they're best friends and supportive of eachother
no, he is not, people threat him horrible for saving their lives, and yet he still do that, so he hide that he is smart and play little dumb. besides if you would read books you would see that most of the times he was used by people, in their games and quest, all he do is being a witcher, thats a whole different trope
No he isn't. I don't even really get why they say it about him based on the show, much less based on the books. He doesn't talk much, but he's good at reading people and thinks very strategically about solving complex problems. Usually, he's the smartest person in the room having to deal with the village idiot of the week who thinks himself smarter than everyone. He's basically a clever inversion of the 'big, bulky warrior guy' trope and everyone automatically assumes because of his looks that he is a brute, while in actuality he's far away from it.
I don't know the video games or books but I would never consider him like that in the tv show. I think it's because Henry Cavill is SO handsome that he could literally play Louis Pasteur or Adolf Hitler, his character would be automatically seen through the himbo trope lmao.
For the record, I just asked my Russian partner if Geralt was a himbo or not a himbo - based on having read the books - and he said, without hesitation, "himbo." There's a great trilogy of analyses on him by, I believe, Quinn Curio. You can find one of the first under "Ballad of Geralt the Himbo"
You guys should do a vid about the flanderisation of characters, where they essentially dumb down a character to one main personality trait, like joey from friends or britta in community
@@kimifw58I think the "Scrooge" trope can also be called "bitter old man who's rude to everyone because he had a terrible past but has a good heart and embraces it after receives the help of someone who's often much younger"
We need a Bombshell trope. Also "Relatable White Girl" in how the everygirl is often always white and has pretty privilege, the "Ice Queen", "Nagging Parents", "Overprotective Parents", "The Bitchy Counterpart to Rom Com Heroines", "Wallflower", Ethnicity and Parenthood, and the Mother In Law EDIT: If they have done both "Independent Woman" and "Strong Female Character", they can do my suggestions. Also wanna add Makeovers, the Housewife, and The Man's Man, the "Lovable" Bigot
I'm glad they also adressed the "dumb" part of the himbo representing the pressure we have on being smarter and smarter. Because this is really good represented in Jason from The Good Place. He took his time showing expressive smart thoughts, but it was increasingly noticeable how he made pretty good use of his capacities to notice stuff that others didn't notice because each one of the main cast had their different patterns of thinking. We learned to appreciate his character because he showed their was a wisdom to his way of living even if that wisdom was limited. But that was fitting because each character was limited in their own way and it came so well together. Except Janet. She actually did know everything...in her way.
I think the "perfect mix of masculinity" is the kind gentleness of a himbo combined with intelligence. Being good at your job is important, but it's also important to be modest and caring.
I remember my sister and I were on a walk and these two dudes were crossing our paths. As we were walking pass each other we heard one of the guys be like "you know what I just realized, bro?" "what, bro?" "any little act of kindness you do for someone can really make someone's day" "oh totally bro!"
So glad that Sam got a shout-out! He was definitely one of my favorite Glee characters. Really layered (body dysmorphia, dyslexia, money problems) and yet got so little love by the writers. He was definitely the best guy in that show. So funny to watch this, because I was just like "Oh, I love that character!" "Oh, that one too!" "...oh, I guess that's the point..." Himbos are apparently one of my favorite tropes.
We've had 'nice guys' and himbos so I would love to see a video on incels. You touched on it in the nice guy video and here but I'd love to see something go in depth. Also I love how the himbo is like a Labrador puppy
They probably gonna say a bunch of shit about male entitlement and toxic masculinity or some other shit like that. The incel is basically a shy guy or girl with absolutely no luck with the opposite sex but then term was turned into a group of guys blaming woman and society for not wanting them.
Conversation between a Simp, a Nice guy and a Incel. J: What exactly are you talking about? R: She's the one, my dream girl. M: What are you talking about? She just smiled, you idiot. R: It's a signal, I'm sure of it. J: Oh yeah, you have such a talent in noticing signals. I mean, it just fails you 99% of the time. M: Wait, 99? When was there ever a 1%? J: Lucy. M: Lucy was drunk, do you actually think she would have kissed him otherwise. R: Man, fuck you two! J: Alright, alright. Just watch out for the horns. R: Are you fucking crazy, I'll kill her! J: LOL R: I'll cover her feet with cement and toss her on the river. M: How are you still single, we'll never know. (LOL) J: I'm single because I'm ugly. You, because you still thinking about that bitch. M: Don't call her that. J: She cheated on you several times before she finally dumped you for a scumbag with a nice car. That's my definition of a bitch. R: Yeah, he's not wrong. You should move on, since you have way more options than us. M: Is because I actually talk to girls. I mean, you only chase after smoking hot chicks, which is why it never works out for you. R: I chase after girls that I want to be with and you don't see me complaining when I get turned down. J: If you did complain on our ears about it, we would beat the shit out of you for it. R: That's rich coming from you. You don't even approach girls. J: I don't have much motivation to do that anymore, considering that every time I tried, it failed. M: You let rejection bother you too much man. J: Because I really liked the girls that rejected me. You pretty much do the same but with an ex that doesn't deserves it. R: He got you there. J: Can we please go back to the game now? My winning streak could use a few more flawless victories. M: Nah, I'm going to sleep. She agreed to meet me tomorrow. J: Jesus fucking christ, why the fuck are you meeting her for? M: None of you business. Good night. R: Yeah, I'm going to sleep too. I think she goes to work early. J: Are you seriously gonna stalk her? R: It's not stalking, I'm just creating opportunities for a conversation. J: A conversation about why she shouldn't call the police on your ass? R: See, that's why you never get the girl you like, you're too negative. J: Whatever, don't use your phone call to call me to bust you out of jail when that shit backfires. R: We'll see who's gonna be joking after I have that sexy ass on my arms and you still stuck on video games. J: Whatever you say buddy.
Basically an phisically attractive guy that gets away with being a dumbass and girls want to be with him without having to do anything because of his looks.
The most attractive aspect of the himbo for women is undoubtedly the lack of predatory maliciousness they have to worry about with every other man. Change my mind.
@@heinoustentacles5719 I don't think its that dumb men respect women, I think it's more that cynical screen writers often show the himbos natural kindness as being linked with naivete and therefore dumb. Basically, cynics think you'd have to be an idiot to be nice to others, and especially women, so they make the ine who is nice a naive idiot to fit their preconceptions
I don't think the himbo has to necessarily be dumb in order to be likeable. In my graphic novel, I have a character who is kind of a himbo. He is pure brawn, the muscle of the group, he is emotionally intelligent, but he is hopelessly naive, innocent, and unassuming. He is incredibly wide-eyed , gentle, and shy. But he is most certainly not dumb, he is actually pretty competent.
@@Hedge_witch I'm saying in support of femininity with no other relevant characteristics, like empty headed arm candy Would a man be toxic if he preferred not to interact with women? Let's say he had an abusive mother or a bad breakup or somesuch
Impressive how this trope mirrors the Cool Girl trope, they're everything they want the other gender to be except that if you take away the hotness, it falls apart.
I would love to see the story of a super smart man and a super smart woman who fall in love and turn into complete himbo/bimbo when they’re around each other.
I usually like your analysis, but on this one I would have to disagree. Praising the lack of intelligence portrait on characters because it makes them down to earth, more relatable or less arrogant than intelligent character should be more critical. Imagine if this was done on the other way around. Which of course, has been done already, the difference is we find those characters less "revolutionary". My take is, being dumb does not equal being cute.
Jason Momoa has Uber-Himboed: he is both Khal Drogo and Aquaman, both himbo incarnations for men and women that still in both forms appeal to the other genders, kind of like Jason Momoa.
Yeah, the shared idea with both himbos and manix pixie dream girls is to have a fulfilling, engaging person who shatters disillusionment. It's why they directly talk about how him being cynical would ruin it. The himbo's dopey loyalty makes him safe and his strength non-threatening. It's infantilizing and insulting for men to have their intelligence or critical thinking be a "downside", but for women their personalities have taken a backseat to their looks for centuries in media and discourse. The himbo is the rare modern case where the man's critical thinking isn't welcome, he is wish fulfilment instead of a person. The himbo absolutely is a manic pixie dream boy, and has the same inherent toxicity. Wish fulfilment isn't wrong, so long as you don't reject independent thoughts or disagreements from your actual potential partners. The himbo is about as easy to get along with as a dog, real people come with real problems and conflict, which is why the himbo is such an endearing distraction.
No wonder I like Joey. Although he can be a man child sometimes, he's a really sweet guy who respects his friends, tries to be their for them, and can make a true emotional connection. Himbo and true nice guys are the future 👌
Love this video!! My only gripe would be classifying Geralt from the Witcher as a himbo. Though brawny and respectful towards women, Geralt’s cynical outlook and partiality towards violence makes him fit outside of the trope. I think Geralt fits better into the “huge gruff violent man with a heart of gold” trope, especially when he interacts with Jaskier and hopefully Ciri. On that note, i would LOVE a whole video about angry dads who have their hearts won over by a powerful child they have to protect
The Himbo is the idealized male personality as Manic Pixie Girl is to females. All of us can learn positive things from them. Can you imagine a Himbo and a Manic Pixie Girl as a pair, either romantic or platonic, it'll just be positivity every time you are with them.
OH MY GOD. I JUST REALIZED THAT LINK FROM GREYS ANATOMY IS A HIMBO. HE IS A HIMBO. NO WONDER I LIKE HIM SO MUCH. NO WONDER I LIKE HIM WITH AMELIA SO MUCH. 😱😱😱
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Nice video, do you think you could do one about hipster and indie characters. 🤓
We need the cynic trobe video.
I'm surprised I haven't seen The Take do ANYTHING with Scrubs. I recently started watching it again and I really want it reviewed here.
@@smartass0124 Yeah it does. It's pretty pathetic.
The more I watch feminists and their ideas, the more I become convinced that feminism is literally a product of a severe case of brain cancer, or severe loss of brain cells due to some kind of injury or something
What's the matter with you!!!!!!
Kronk out here trying to heal society and we never gave him credit for it.
that's why Disney gave him a sequel, even though it was a TV movie/direct to DVD.
Kronk 😭
I’d give that award to Brendan Fraser, he played so many himbos in his career. Encino Man, Blast from the Past, George of the Jungle etc
Literally
"Lesbians and their Emotional Support Himbos have a legendary bond" -that's probably my favourite thing ever
SAME! I just realized how prevalent that trope/friendship is on film and tv
We do
@@HelloHello-tm7uc It's a pretty common pairing in real life too. They're called lesbros.
All I can think of is Korra & Asami with Bolin.
Can this be a coffee mug?
Kronk is the best himbo, can't change my mind.
Clark Kent is the best. Amiable, Naive, Overly optimistic, handsome, and virtually all power.
I like him too.
He is. I've liked him a lot since childhood
Favorite part of emperors new groove
I'm partial to George of the Jungle myself, but Kronk really is a LEGENDARY Himbo.
The himbo is like the human version of a golden retriever: big, cute, happy and loving
And protective
Omg, that is a perfect analogy
This is the best thing I’ve ever read 😂
This!
But there's literally "golden retriever boys" that are also cute, happy, loving but not dumb
"An aquarium is a submarine for fish."
Hes not wrong realy.
lol he would know!!
ohh honey.. no
The himbo has emotional intelligence.
That shit is so hot
Ngl that's the best part, he's not afraid of showing or feeling emotions
So in the George of the Jungle live action movie with Brendan Fraser, there's that scene (that someone graciously uploaded to youtube) with him playing with horses while all of Ursula's friends just ogle him. Anyway, Ursula's trying to explain that despite being pretty dumb, he's not entirely stupid, and her best friend chimes in, describing him as having "Sensual Intelligence."
Thats just sad
@@ithielpitt7525 How?
Ross dated Rachel for years over the corse of 236 episodes and was a barely decent. Joey only dated Rachel for 2 episodes and still managed to be a better boyfriend.
I never watched friends, but just knowing that Rachel doesn't end up with Joey makes me mad. Lol
@@thetwilightzone2403 it shouldn’t! They had no chemistry at all. It was cute but not lasting in any way!
@@TheKchar rewatch the episodes where they were roommates and tell me again they had no chemistry. They pulled pranks on each other, Joey broke her out of the fear that Monica instilled in her to never get the carpet dirty. They were fun and wholesome.
@@TheKchar Ross and Rachel don’t have much chemistry either, plus they’re toxic together.
@@MadameTamma I think the commenter meant ROMANTIC chemistry. Because obviously friends have platonic chemistry, but that it’s not the same as romantic chemistry.
i like the himbo until it goes too far, joey tribbiani for example. at the start of friends he was a bit dumb but was self sufficient and street smart as well. by the end of the series he was just a dumb hot guy with no other personality, the best example being the episode when phoebe teaches him french
Yeah, I always hated how they took his stupidity too far. But it didn’t make me dislike the character :))
Yes, these are my thoughts EXACTLY! I liked Joey more when he was moderately dumb, but still competent. According to Matt Leblanc, he thought it might be funnier if Joey was the "Idiot Friend", but he became TOO unrealistically stupid. It's also ironic that Matt is actually fluent in French in real life. 😅
Yeah, that's when they "jump the shark" and everyone turns into a caricature of their original character.
I agree completely. Through time they dumbed him down significantly, to ridiculous proportions. he was never my favorite character but the way the showrunners treated him was one of the main reasons I couldn’t watch past season 6-7
That's is actually brought up in the Flandering trope, it is basically when a characteristic gets exaggerated over time like Kevin's lack of intelligence from the office or flander from the simsons
I love this.
"It proves that masculinity itself is not inherently toxic."
Exactly! Being a toxic male or a misogynist is indeed a choice! You can always use your powers for good if you want to :)
@@Hedge_witch just like you can have toxic femininity as well. Women who use the inherent cuteness of femininity to manipulate and get what they want, and also are excessively moody and neurotic. I feel that one, although more common, often goes unmentioned. I also feel that often, women will use the term "toxic male" to just shit on men who don't aggressively pander to them and agree with them.
anyone who thinks masculinity is inherently toxic is just a bad human being.
nobody ever thought this besides feminists though. so nothing needed to be disproved.
@@Ray03595 *misandrist
Okay but Kronk IS uniquely talented: he can talk to squirrels and he's a great cook
Dream guy!
And he's good with kids.
LESBIANS AND THEIR EMOTIONAL SUPPORT HIMBOS
It's a pretty common pairing in real life. They're called lesbros.
My emotional support himbo must have gotten lost in the mail... I eagerly await his arrival
WAIT this makes so much sense
I HAVE FINALLY REALISED THIS ASPECT OF MY LIFE!!! IM THERE FOR YOU LESBIANS 🤟🏽🤟🏽✨
Nope they're gays
the requirements to be a himbo
1. be hot
2. be dumb
3. respect women
@@trinaq What ?
@@trinaq why does this sound like something a bot would write
Like JFK from clone high
So what if he's not dumb but respects women, or is that not possible?
time for women to dominate i guess
If there's a himbo in any type of show you already know they're gonna be a fan favorite
"What women find most attractive is, Respect"
That hit hard.
it's actually intelligence & hygiene!
It's not true though
@@radhiadeedou8286 it is true. women find respect attractive not being treated as sex object
i didnt realize respect and consent could be a huge turn on until i got it
Well, a lot of the video talks about how a himbo needs to be conventionally attractive, so yes, but not just that.
My god, I never knew I need himbo would live on to the point of being the the take, that is really something lol
HIIIII CHI-CHI, LUV UR COVERS 😍😍
I had never realized that the himbo might be the "Chad" incels hate so much. Boy does that put things into perpective
THIS.
Those are real "nice guys".
Hmm I think that its more like both the Chad and the himbo are evolutions of the jock archetype, only one of them demonizes him while the other develops him and lets him be a more complicated person
@@VictoriaMeira7 True enough. What I meant is that in the context of the olden Nerd vs. Chad dichotomy, as used by incels to justify hating women for being "shallow", understanding Chad not as a disrespectful macho man (the harmful jock stereotype, or rather the Gaston type), but as a himbo, can be essential to clarify why this false dichotomy is so disputed among everybody else. That is, women are, in fact, more attracted to the idea of a well-meaning, respectful Chad than to a self-pitying "Nerd", who is as harmful to them as the Gaston version of Chad would be.
I'm pretty sure incels don't hate chads. It's just general jealousy. Like how there are women who act like any desirable woman is a slut. It happens just as much on both sides. The only difference is women are lauded for doing it while men are told to suck it up lmao.
It's usually okay though because most men usually want to measure up to the best, instead of making the best measure down to them lol.
Holy shit...thats a fucking insight
I love that you guys used Chris Hemsworth on the thumbnail; whenever I hear the word himbo I immediately think of him and his character in Thor: ragnarok
Likewise, Chris plays SO MANY Himbos, that he could be the unofficial image for the Trope! 😉
@@trinaq I was just thinking about that. In the last few years he's played at least three of them.
And we all KNOW the best Thor is the 'Thor: Ragnarok' Thor
Chris Hemsworth is for the himbo what Zoey Deschanel was for the quirky ethereal love interest.
@Ru paul .... Um... What?
Society has surpassed the need of making fun of bimbos/himbos. Let us all be dumb, happy and kind ❤️
Preach, I love how dumb characters tend to be the most accepting and least prejudiced, as there's genuinely not a mean bone in their bodies, especially in Joey's case. 😍
I wish we saw more characters like Matilda: smart and humble
There the opposite of the people who want to be Rick.
Indeed ❤️❤️❤️
Hahaha I love this! Let's do it
"A man stands up for himself, a strong man stands up for others." - Otis' dad from Barnyard
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the source hit me like a goddamn truck oh my god
The himbo doesn't need to be dumb, just innocent and funny. I'm dating one who is actually really smart, and let me tell you: I don't want to try any other type after this. He's just an amazing person, and so kind
If he's not dumb, he's not a himbo.
@@kimifw58I have seen a vine, it is in a video of this channel, commenting that the word bimbo is changing its meaning, so it is not necessary to be dumb to be a himbo/bimbo.
Relative inability to follow an abstract conversation
Honestly that isn’t a himbo. I’m more attracted to the smart ones who are unique like what you mentioned. This guy could have Aspergers that’s all. They are respectful and don’t degrade women but also super smart and funny but lack social skills. Search up JJ from the skins. He’s my ideal typeeee
then thats not a himbo but a whole package from heaven 👌🏼
"What women find more attractive is respect"
I'm not a woman and I like himbos for their big muscles and big smiles.
@@vins1979 as you should
@@Ray03595 right?
I think almost everyone is attracted to people who respect them. A lot of perpetually single people (nothing wrong with being single) don't respect others.
Because men and women aren’t so different: we both need admiration in our lives!
The Himbo is my favorite wholesome trope, in all honesty. They usually always mean well.
If Forrest Gump worked out for 3 months, would he transform into a himbo?
@@kenster8270 wasn’t he in the army?
@@kenster8270 Forrest is already himbo. He's cute (duh, he's Tom Hanks) and was shown to be physically fit and strong, as well as unintentionally talented.
I love how the Himbo is so broad. One second The Take is showing us Jason from The Good Place; the next it's Geralt from The Witcher. I love it
Is and he cancels character in The Witcher done now? I haven't seen the show. The actor himself is disarmingly clever...
@@judeannethecandorchannel2153 I don't understand what you are asking
I'm not conviced about Geralt. He's not an idiot. Given the fact he's managed to survive in a world where everyone around him wants to kill him, and he does one of the most dangerous jobs in the universe, he clearly has a decent amount of intelligence. Jaskier would fit the trope more. I'm sure someone who read the books more would have better examples, but I dont get a himbo vibe from Geralt.
@@Ray03595 agreed, I was just thinking how he is actually pretty clever, just based on how he has to fight monsters. He just doesn’t take peoples crap and doesn’t care for peoples politics. But he’s not “dumb”.
@@Ray03595 I read the books and played the game. Geralt is the farthest thing from stupid I hate how they keep using him as an example. It’s obvious they didn’t watch the show or bother looking into the franchise as a whole.
I think himbos are like young labrador retrievers--always supportive, optimistic, helpful, and really nice to look at.
Mr PB from Bojack Horseman 😂
You know the bar is on the floor when a woman’s heartthrob is “a man… but make it harmless” 😭 😭 😭
Lmao
Let me correct you. "A man but make it good and gentle." Harmless doesn't mean useless or unable. A himbo does have the capacity to harm, he just doesn't want to. And that's what's attractive.
this is so funny and true 😂😂
(And also really conventionally attractive)
An ATTRACTIVE man... But make him have emotional intelligence, respect and tenderness.
I have no issues being the partner Emotional intelligence is incredibly important in the building of a solid and long-term romantic relationship, and I would like at least an equal if not someone who's better than me at stuff like communicating our feelings, expectations and needs, supporting each other and showing love and respect. I'm not the most socially skilled person, and I'd feel more comfortable in a relationship with someone who's more competent than me in that area. Viceversa, I really don't see how useful would be having a partner with my same high QI score and low social skills. I can work with that if there's love of course, but I don't see how 'logical intelligence' should be higher than 'emotional intelligence' and 'being sexually attractive' in my imaginary Ideal Partner's Requirements List.
If 'being a man' means 'making your partner feel loved and secure within your relationship', then different people need different men in their lives, and for many a himbo could be the best manly men they could ever need to feel loved and safe.
Stranger Things is literally just the himbofication of Steve Harrington
OMG i didn’t know how much i did needed him in this video
the accuracy tho😭
@@emmagsfa I was like, wait... I feel like someone's missing here and then they showed the clip of him and I just died laughing
@@alfiar.2079 he got them maybelline lashes, the highlights in his hair, pretty pink lips; he's truly pure of heart and dumb of ass kinda guy 🙏🏽😂
When I saw the Becky video, I thought Steve was the male Becky
There is a downside of this trope, a lot of times the women in the cast are taking avantage of the guy´s dumb nature by making him take of his shirt or caresing his abs like creeps, so it´s incredibly unconfortable for me to see , specially since modern TV would think twice if the genders were reversed (it does happen but most of the time is rigthfully called out by critics).Edit: great you DID bring that up
Mhm. Like you're saying, it's kind of an exchange for the bimbo trope from the late 90s early 00's. They can be fun characters if the writers take the time to cultivate the character well.
i mean, i dont see the problem with either. Let hot people be hot. We're visual creatures, and we naturally objectify people we find attractive. I dont see why there is this big push to have every single character be some deep thinker, or every tv show be masterful works of art. Sometimes you just wanna watch Two Broke Girls, because they have cheap laughs and you wanna watch trash.
that happened recently in that liza koshy netflix movie, she was reduced to the POC best friend sidekick that was really creepy with a mattress salesman smh
@@Ray03595 Let people be hot is really not the same as objectifying ,lots of times the "natural objetify" grows into sexual harrasment
@@Sweethearts4969 thats exactly the movie i was thinking about
The himbo trope shows that maturity and intellect can be two very different things
@Ru paul what do you mean by female emptiness?
Edit: forget it I read your other comments I got all the context I need lmao
@@KassandraQuiseng what are they even saying?
@@nadineehab8834 all his other comments use words like “beta cucks” and give off incel vibes so it’s probably something misogynistic
What it shows is that intellect and attractiveness can be two very different things. Interestingly, attractiveness and good looks cannot be two very different things, 'cause they are the exact same thing, aren't they?
@Ru paul this guy is under every comment 😭😭
Basically, the himbo is the male version of Karen Smith from Mean Girls.
I dated one and he was the most respectful and genuine guy I met
So what happened?
@@Jimmykarnage she got bored
@@TheTillmanSneakerReview LMAO what do you know of their situation you don't know anything
@@kashboywonder3364 where did you get it LMAO ?? you pulled it out of your mind
I dated one, and it was annoying. We couldn't have normal conversations because I had to explain every little thing to him, and I was always the one helping with his problems because he didn't know how to help with mine. I wasn't his girlfriend. I was his mother and therapist.
Gotta say the rise of this trope is one of the best responses to both an arguably outdated trope such as the bimbo and just the current state of gender and gender relations. Everybody needs a himbo.
@@Chris-rg6nm yup. which is why I said "the rise of this trope". I guess I just didn't phrase it right, I meant it's increasingly more popular
@Ru paul there are already many characters like that?? What makes you an incel is your ridiculously bitter and negative comments aimed at women
@@Chris-rg6nm OK and?
"He is optimistic because he thinks the world is nice"
*insert Geralt of Rivia in the video*
Bruh
😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
yeah came here looking for this comment, why is the Witcher here? he doesn't fit the trope
@@Veronikafenriz Curio did a "Ballad of Himbo Geralt" video that explained why the miniseries version of Geralt is...not as, uh, cynical or savvy as the book version or video game versions. When he gets captured by Torque the Sylvan, miniseries Geralt asks the elf why not live with the humans, and the elf has to basically explain, "We can't live with humans. Because of racism." And miniseries Geralt's response is basically, "Oh noes...you're right...There's racism... :( " which is more of a himbo-level conversation than Geralt would have in other media.
@@Veronikafenriz Also miniseries Geralt's decision to evoke the Law of Surprise. In the books, he does this on purpose because the Witchers recruit infants to make more Witchers, and the babies are more likely to survive training if they are protected by Destiny. In the miniseries, Himbo Geralt seems to think that it's a fun thing to ask for, and doesn't expect that it would give him guardianship over an actual human being. He was expecting a dog, or part of a good harvest.
@@ellymarks6833 oh interesting, gotta go do more research, l only watched the show and read like one book as a kid
I just realized, most Shonen Anime Protagonists are Himbos.
Goku is definitely a himbo.
@@11FBA11 And so are Naruto and Luffy
Omg I was thinking the same 😂
To be fair a lot of Shoujo protagonists are too haha
Shounen is afterall there to inspire young male audiences
"Excuse me, that is my Emotional Support Himbo."
As much as I love this take on himbos and the future of masculinity, it does bother me that intelligence is looked down upon in romantic relationships. Both himbos and bimbos are, at their core, sexist. A role reversal of gender roles can serve as a way to highlight the issue, but using it as a solution won't solve anything. In fact, it will probably just create a perpetual cycle of "action" and "reaction". In my eyes, the himbo is the 21st century take on prince charming, and the bimbo is the 21st century take on the damsel in distress. After all, two of the defining traits of a prince charming is ... that he looks good and respects women in a societally acceptable way. And one of the defining traits of a damsel in distress is that she's just a price with no critical thinking skills. So instead of looking down upon smart people for being "cynical" or "bossy", it might be time to allow them to find a way to actually move on from the sexist idea that gender defines anything besides your biological features. (Admittedly, I stole this idea from a genderless society from Angela Carter.)
I have been looking for this comment. Liking himbos is just as sexist as liking bimbos.
@@fecomate2542 oh yeah ikr how DARE people like somebody who's nice and respectful
@Quartz
I'm guessing there are probably also plenty of intelligent people who are absolute abusive jerks to their partners and plenty of unintelligent people who've a heart of gold
@Quartz
maybe some of you people have
misunderstood/misinterpreted
the take
@@monabohamad2242 and dumb to the point that they can barely function have you missed that part?
"When the package is this pretty, no one cares what's inside." - Joey Tribbiani 🎁😉
You dislike my v*deos? Are you just a h8er boi? I say see you l8er boi. Don't watch my stuff anymore. Your dislikes are damaging my good reputation. I am a superstar, dear trina
Joey is the Himbo King 👑😄
Kylie Cosmetics ;)
I see ur comments everywhere!!! How????
And he's kinda right.
Many people considered by others as "pretty" are treated just like objects, like if people said "you're pretty, shut up and just be pretty"
Can we just take a moment to thank the Universe, Genetics and Mr. and Mrs. Jacinto for Manny Jacinto? He is so adorable and cute.
Wha....? He's not adorable or cute. He grade A attractive. Save the adorable and cute for the men/women that are average, which would be insulting now that I thin k about it as they are not even that. Adorable/cute should stay with what you call the naïve kids.
@@artemicionkupo4367 Have you seen his ‘Thirst Tweets’ video?
Nice to see you here, DildarBegum 🌻
@@nimrat17 Thank you!
He’s such a cutie pie!
Fun fact: the word bimbo means kid in italian.
Oh like the bread brand? 😃
That's interesting, it's likely derived from the Italian word "Bambino", meaning baby. 👶
@@trinaq both words mean kid, probably they derive from the same latin word
Edit after looking in the dictionary I found out in latin kid traslated: infans (when the kid doesn't know how to talk) and puer
Thx to the comment that said I was wrong to make me notice I've made a mistake
Well, kids (at least young ones) tend to be optimistic and trusting, innocent (ignorant), and striking many adults as stupid (no matter how intelligent).
*bambino.
It’s actually even a bit more primal than that: a guy who wouldn’t murder us (kind, optimistic, sensitive, respectful) who can keep other guys from murdering us (strong, protective)
The Country vs City trope:
-Career-person from the city has to go to the country/small-town, initially dislikes it but is charmed by their folksy-wisdom and tractors.
-Country/small-town person goes to the city, initially likes it, but dislikes how rampant and chaotic the setting is.
It's a frustrating trope because they almost always go, "city life sucks, country/small-town life's better".
Pretty divorced from reality. What a coincidence that in the only episode where the non-city cast goes into the city, every stereotypical bad thing happens to them in the same day. They can be tourists in a foreign place just fine, but when it comes to cities, they're disaster magnets.
I grew up in a rural area and moved to an urban area as soon as I was an adult. Anyone who says rural life is better is either a liar or a heterosexual white person.
Clear overlap with the male airhead and gentle giant here, though also frequently used as eye-candy for the audience the same way the Bimbo is.
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The Take & Overly Sarcastic Productions are the best at explaining tropes.
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Exactly, they are my favourite analysis channels for precisely that reason! ❤️👏🏾
I wholeheartedly agree. OSP videos are a highlight every month.
I follow them both, too!
YOU ARE A PERSON OF CULTURE!
You should do a twist on the "Himbo"--the "Manic Pixie Dream Boy." Jack from "Titanic," Steve from "Sex and the City" and Buddy from "Elf" immediately come to mind. I bet there are a bunch of other Manic Pixie Dream Boys in other movies and TV shows I cannot think of right now.
Augustus in 'The Fault In Our Stars' might count as well.
@@Eris_Norregard Came here to say that
I agree about Jack but why is Steve from SATC a manic pixie dream boy?
@@minerva4275 He rescues Miranda from her cynicism, workaholism and materialism. Steve softens Miranda up by just doing his thing. He's the most unconventional of the men the SATC women date--sometimes he's unemployed, at other times just a mere bartender. He's soft and cuddly and cute and totally himself. He fits the definition of the "Manic Pixie Dream Girl" to a T, though he's a boy who rescues the girl.
@@Luboman411 I think Miranda rescued herself from workaholism and her old ways. She didn't need him to help her grow, she was managing everything fine on her own, but she wanted him to be by her side anyway, as her equal partner. As for his character, it's funny, I thought he was a boring annoying manchild, at least at first. You have a point though, maybe he seems so boring because his personality was not well fleshed out.
Critically speaking, it says something when the Himbo who always respects women, is often a simpleton. It's as if a man has to be dumb in order to explain why they respect women...
I don't get how himbos "respect" women. They lowkey objectify them. I guess it's more like women respect them for their looks.
Yup
@E N Fitz It's worse than that -- The implication is that a man is only safe if he *lacks the capacity* to harm women. That's analogous to assuming that a woman's desire for autonomy stems from amoral rebelliousness!!!
@@viharsarok they’re just nice? That’s the Himbos’ whole thing. Women shouldn’t get special treatment just for it to count as being respected. Someone just being nice without ulterior motives is good enough. And himbos can harm women, they choose not to. That choice not to hurt and instead to be kind to us is what is attractive, not them being dumb itself.
Someone put it in the comments best, someone who chooses to do the kind choice instead of the smart choice is a himbo, which means that himbos can often look dumb even if they’re pretty clever, because they still make dumb choices.
That’s why I love All Might as a himbo, even if canonically he’s an intelligent hero who uses stratagems on the daily to fight baddies and teaches a hero class lol. He just fumbles a lot due to his choices, like needing to read a teaching for dummies novel because he’s never done it before but still wants to be a good teacher or choosing a reckless quirkless kid as a successor because he’s got a kind heart.
So yeah, dumbness as a requirement by itself looks bad, but it’s not a fair reading to say that a hot, easy to manipulate idiot is the ideal we’re talking about when most comments stress that it’s the respect we desire.
@@viharsarok YOU are high key doing the objectification here so it's more like women respect them because THEY are respectful too
You could've included more Terry Crews and The Rock Johnson clips. I feel like they've taken on himbo type characters. Masculine but not hyper focused on sex or trying to be the smartest person in the room.
“Himbology” 😂
You know, I himbo, you himbo, he/she/me himbo, himbo, himboing. We’ll have thee himbo, himborama, himbology the study of himbo??
IT’S FIRST GRADE
😂😂😂😂Thank you for your reference!
Joey Tribbiani is the best "friend" ever , he is the best character on the show with Chandler
Exactly my thoughts, Ms Mojo even has a list of why Joey was the Best Friend, not that we'd think otherwise! 😉🥰
Joey was always my favorite.
The Himbo and the Cynic are my favorite paired tropes. Joey and Chandler centered episodes were so great
While Joey was lovely to his friends, he treated women horribly!
@@pn7134 he kept trying to make nudity a rule of the apartment when living with Rachel, he was really creepy all the Time although very loyal. And yeah, treated women like trash :)
Talking about Joey Tribbiani, Sam Evans, Andy Dwyer and The Rocky Horror Picture show in one video? Am I dreaming?
growing up I respected the smart guy characters for their intellect but, as you rightly pointed out, I found their demeaning, misogynistic, and incel like qualities distasteful. Then I found the himbo and I admired the character trope ever since. While I still value intellect, the qualities of genuine kindness and optimism exemplified in the himbo are just as important to me. Watching this video showed me exactly why my favorite character in almost ever show, or movie I watch is the himbo.
Also I found that Steve Urkel was the perfect exemplification of a balance between the smart guy intelligence and the himbo personality.
Yup.
I just like how the himbo never tries to pretend to be someone else. They are aware they aren’t the brightest but make up for that in many other ways such as being caring, funny, protective, and respectful. Himbos also almost never cause drama because there around just to have a good time.
Cant talk about Himbos without mentioning animes favorite himbo himself Naruto Uzumaki
YES!! MAH BOI!
Omg this is the explanation of why I love Chris Hemsworth and Chris Pratt 🤯 you cracked the code girls! Also Kronk...he is just the best, is funny because I'm asexual so I don't really care of the abs and "hot" aspect of the himbos, for me they are just Lovable handsome dorks too good for this world :'3
Kelso from that's 70 show is also a Himbo.
Except not by much, he kept cheating on Jackie so thats not very "respectful to women" imo :/
I don't think so I guess Fez was the himbo, but I am not sure
@@craziestcat5767 i meant that he is a Himbo because he was dumb, a womanizer and he was the most attractive male of the gang, kinda like Joey.
Fez fits the description better. Kelso was not nice of respectful to Jackie
@@cynthiaedwards3128 Neither Fez, he was a creep to Donna and Jackie. At least Kelso didn't do things out of malice.
One of the reasons I adore Himbos as a trope is because the term Bimbo is often used to make fun of women, while Himbos are often used in a positive way, also because I love the lesbian and her emotional support Himbo trope, they're best friends and supportive of eachother
Literally just here to make sure that Jason Mendoza was represented. And I love how he destroys the two most common stereotypes about Asian men.
chris hemsworth pioneered the himbo
Joey Tribbiani engineered the Himbo 😋
George of the Jungle entered the chat
I think for this generation he is, but like the comment above says, Joey from FRIENDS and Keanu Reeves precede him
I thought his countryman Crocodile Dundee did?
Cary Grant? The ultimate himbo from b&w film era?
"He's lucky he's good looking" ... Okay, The Take 👀
That was so funny 😭😭
I know, what he lacks in smarts, he makes up for in brawn and charm! 😉❤️
Me after playing Witcher games: wait, Geralt is intelligent and smart
Me after reading books: yeah, he is a himbo
no, he is not, people threat him horrible for saving their lives, and yet he still do that, so he hide that he is smart and play little dumb. besides if you would read books you would see that most of the times he was used by people, in their games and quest, all he do is being a witcher, thats a whole different trope
@@beatamalecka4876 I was wondering why he was here. He’s intelligent, has looks, and not misogynistic.
No he isn't. I don't even really get why they say it about him based on the show, much less based on the books. He doesn't talk much, but he's good at reading people and thinks very strategically about solving complex problems. Usually, he's the smartest person in the room having to deal with the village idiot of the week who thinks himself smarter than everyone. He's basically a clever inversion of the 'big, bulky warrior guy' trope and everyone automatically assumes because of his looks that he is a brute, while in actuality he's far away from it.
I don't know the video games or books but I would never consider him like that in the tv show. I think it's because Henry Cavill is SO handsome that he could literally play Louis Pasteur or Adolf Hitler, his character would be automatically seen through the himbo trope lmao.
For the record, I just asked my Russian partner if Geralt was a himbo or not a himbo - based on having read the books - and he said, without hesitation, "himbo." There's a great trilogy of analyses on him by, I believe, Quinn Curio. You can find one of the first under "Ballad of Geralt the Himbo"
You guys should do a vid about the flanderisation of characters, where they essentially dumb down a character to one main personality trait, like joey from friends or britta in community
Oh that'd be a good one.
They did! They focus on The Office's Kevin Malone and it's super interesting
@@hannah8williams thanks I’ll check it out!
For Christmas, you should do the “Scrooge” trope.
According to TV Tropes, the "Scrooge" is just a greedy person. More relevant to Christmas would be the "Grinch."
@@kimifw58 Okay
Yes!!!!
@@kimifw58I think the "Scrooge" trope can also be called "bitter old man who's rude to everyone because he had a terrible past but has a good heart and embraces it after receives the help of someone who's often much younger"
5:49 "I didnt make him.. fa youu!" lmao i love Tim Curry soo much
We need a Bombshell trope.
Also "Relatable White Girl" in how the everygirl is often always white and has pretty privilege, the "Ice Queen", "Nagging Parents", "Overprotective Parents", "The Bitchy Counterpart to Rom Com Heroines", "Wallflower", Ethnicity and Parenthood, and the Mother In Law
EDIT: If they have done both "Independent Woman" and "Strong Female Character", they can do my suggestions. Also wanna add Makeovers, the Housewife, and The Man's Man, the "Lovable" Bigot
You should check "The best friend trope" and "The Betty" then !
Isn't the Bombshell the same thing as the Femme Fatale? If so, there's a video for that! :)
I second those suggestions, particularly the "Overprotective Parent" trope, as it crops up in almost EVERY teen work.
Tag yourself. I’m ice queen
@@pretzellina Not at all. Though they have done a dumb blonde one which is very close.
I'm kind of angry that you didn't put Bolin in here
They never put any avatar stuff in their videos :( despite having a whole ass video on avatar
NUKTUK the Hero of the South
Yes!
I was looking for this comment thank you
I'm glad they also adressed the "dumb" part of the himbo representing the pressure we have on being smarter and smarter. Because this is really good represented in Jason from The Good Place. He took his time showing expressive smart thoughts, but it was increasingly noticeable how he made pretty good use of his capacities to notice stuff that others didn't notice because each one of the main cast had their different patterns of thinking. We learned to appreciate his character because he showed their was a wisdom to his way of living even if that wisdom was limited. But that was fitting because each character was limited in their own way and it came so well together.
Except Janet. She actually did know everything...in her way.
Bimbo actually means "male child" in Italian. The female equivalent is "bimba". Thought y'all might wanna know
It's a shorter version of the word for "baby", "bambino."
How about the silent but deadly type. Mysterious, silent smart guys
That won't fit the narrative mate, it's not anti-patriarchy.
@@therev2100 Wha...
@@therev2100 lmao the take has made a lot of videos with tropes that do not fit the anti-patriarchy narrative before
My type 😊
@@therev2100 Call this fella a waaaahbulance stat! His fragile ego has taken a severe tumble!
If the antidote to "toxic" masculinity is being dumb, that's kind of depressing.
Always change the genders in the statement and see how fucked up it sounds.
Jason is the ultimate himbo. Just the cutest soul. Too pure. His looks could've made him a playboy yet this sweetheart just gets married.
I think the "perfect mix of masculinity" is the kind gentleness of a himbo combined with intelligence. Being good at your job is important, but it's also important to be modest and caring.
I remember my sister and I were on a walk and these two dudes were crossing our paths. As we were walking pass each other we heard one of the guys be like
"you know what I just realized, bro?"
"what, bro?"
"any little act of kindness you do for someone can really make someone's day"
"oh totally bro!"
So glad that Sam got a shout-out! He was definitely one of my favorite Glee characters. Really layered (body dysmorphia, dyslexia, money problems) and yet got so little love by the writers. He was definitely the best guy in that show.
So funny to watch this, because I was just like "Oh, I love that character!" "Oh, that one too!" "...oh, I guess that's the point..." Himbos are apparently one of my favorite tropes.
I hated how everyone treated him especially Will and girls :/
We've had 'nice guys' and himbos so I would love to see a video on incels. You touched on it in the nice guy video and here but I'd love to see something go in depth.
Also I love how the himbo is like a Labrador puppy
They probably gonna say a bunch of shit about male entitlement and toxic masculinity or some other shit like that.
The incel is basically a shy guy or girl with absolutely no luck with the opposite sex but then term was turned into a group of guys blaming woman and society for not wanting them.
@@mrtyrant1680 ahahah no luck with the opposite sex, good joke.
Are we ready for a toxic comment section? Seen it whenever a channel touches on the subject, even just a little.
Conversation between a Simp, a Nice guy and a Incel.
J: What exactly are you talking about?
R: She's the one, my dream girl.
M: What are you talking about? She just smiled, you idiot.
R: It's a signal, I'm sure of it.
J: Oh yeah, you have such a talent in noticing signals. I mean, it just fails you 99% of the time.
M: Wait, 99? When was there ever a 1%?
J: Lucy.
M: Lucy was drunk, do you actually think she would have kissed him otherwise.
R: Man, fuck you two!
J: Alright, alright. Just watch out for the horns.
R: Are you fucking crazy, I'll kill her!
J: LOL
R: I'll cover her feet with cement and toss her on the river.
M: How are you still single, we'll never know. (LOL)
J: I'm single because I'm ugly. You, because you still thinking about that bitch.
M: Don't call her that.
J: She cheated on you several times before she finally dumped you for a scumbag with a nice car. That's my definition of a bitch.
R: Yeah, he's not wrong. You should move on, since you have way more options than us.
M: Is because I actually talk to girls. I mean, you only chase after smoking hot chicks, which is why it never works out for you.
R: I chase after girls that I want to be with and you don't see me complaining when I get turned down.
J: If you did complain on our ears about it, we would beat the shit out of you for it.
R: That's rich coming from you. You don't even approach girls.
J: I don't have much motivation to do that anymore, considering that every time I tried, it failed.
M: You let rejection bother you too much man.
J: Because I really liked the girls that rejected me. You pretty much do the same but with an ex that doesn't deserves it.
R: He got you there.
J: Can we please go back to the game now? My winning streak could use a few more flawless victories.
M: Nah, I'm going to sleep. She agreed to meet me tomorrow.
J: Jesus fucking christ, why the fuck are you meeting her for?
M: None of you business. Good night.
R: Yeah, I'm going to sleep too. I think she goes to work early.
J: Are you seriously gonna stalk her?
R: It's not stalking, I'm just creating opportunities for a conversation.
J: A conversation about why she shouldn't call the police on your ass?
R: See, that's why you never get the girl you like, you're too negative.
J: Whatever, don't use your phone call to call me to bust you out of jail when that shit backfires.
R: We'll see who's gonna be joking after I have that sexy ass on my arms and you still stuck on video games.
J: Whatever you say buddy.
@@mrtyrant1680 Incels named themself. It didn't just turn into what it did.
Finally himbo representation
Basically an phisically attractive guy that gets away with being a dumbass and girls want to be with him without having to do anything because of his looks.
The most attractive aspect of the himbo for women is undoubtedly the lack of predatory maliciousness they have to worry about with every other man.
Change my mind.
why would a man have to be dumb or naive to be nice to women. kind of a laugh... like saying only the dumber men respect women. quite sad...
@@heinoustentacles5719 it is sad. We live in a fucked up world and I wish it weren't so common.
@@heinoustentacles5719 yeah YOU are quite sad
@@heinoustentacles5719 I don't think its that dumb men respect women, I think it's more that cynical screen writers often show the himbos natural kindness as being linked with naivete and therefore dumb.
Basically, cynics think you'd have to be an idiot to be nice to others, and especially women, so they make the ine who is nice a naive idiot to fit their preconceptions
I don't think the himbo has to necessarily be dumb in order to be likeable. In my graphic novel, I have a character who is kind of a himbo. He is pure brawn, the muscle of the group, he is emotionally intelligent, but he is hopelessly naive, innocent, and unassuming. He is incredibly wide-eyed , gentle, and shy. But he is most certainly not dumb, he is actually pretty competent.
I don’t think himbos are necessarily dumb, just sort of naive and innocent plus respectful.
I really hope that the himbo trope isn't the only one you consider an example of positive masculinity.
Eddie Redmayne as Newt Scamander is a good one too
I'm not sure they really consider there to be any positive masculinity unless it exists in support of femininity
@@Cunnysmythe Er... the phrase "well duh" springs to mind?
If you don't support women as human beings then how can you be a positive anything?
@@Hedge_witch I'm saying in support of femininity with no other relevant characteristics, like empty headed arm candy
Would a man be toxic if he preferred not to interact with women? Let's say he had an abusive mother or a bad breakup or somesuch
@@Cunnysmythe U SAID IT👍👍👍
There were a lot of Himbos at my high school! They did not know they were hot and they were extremely nice !
lucky
Impressive how this trope mirrors the Cool Girl trope, they're everything they want the other gender to be except that if you take away the hotness, it falls apart.
and also the respectfulness
and niceness
This video helped me realize that I really like these kind of characters. I didn't even know the trope had a name.
I would love to see the story of a super smart man and a super smart woman who fall in love and turn into complete himbo/bimbo when they’re around each other.
6:05 I didnt realise that that was where that meme came from lol
12:42
"Pull the lever, Krunk."
Why does she have that lever? LOL
The himbo representation is everything I need
He's the equivalent of a puppy and I love that.
@Ru paul incel
@@hMusic-tb8hl that you can control because he's harmless haha
“I NEED A HIMBO
I’M HOLDING OUT FOR A HIMBO TILL THE END OF THE NIGHT
he’s gotta be strong
and he’s gotta be fast
and he’s gotta be dumb and polite”
I usually like your analysis, but on this one I would have to disagree. Praising the lack of intelligence portrait on characters because it makes them down to earth, more relatable or less arrogant than intelligent character should be more critical. Imagine if this was done on the other way around. Which of course, has been done already, the difference is we find those characters less "revolutionary". My take is, being dumb does not equal being cute.
MY take is being dumb does not equal NOT being cute
Jason Momoa has Uber-Himboed: he is both Khal Drogo and Aquaman, both himbo incarnations for men and women that still in both forms appeal to the other genders, kind of like Jason Momoa.
Me reading the title: da who?
**me clicking anyways because it's from The Take and it must be glorious**
Sounds like the Himbo has a lot in common with the Manic Pixie Dream Girl 🤔
I mean he does also fall into the category of wish fullfillment characters, just for women this time.
Yeah, the shared idea with both himbos and manix pixie dream girls is to have a fulfilling, engaging person who shatters disillusionment. It's why they directly talk about how him being cynical would ruin it. The himbo's dopey loyalty makes him safe and his strength non-threatening. It's infantilizing and insulting for men to have their intelligence or critical thinking be a "downside", but for women their personalities have taken a backseat to their looks for centuries in media and discourse. The himbo is the rare modern case where the man's critical thinking isn't welcome, he is wish fulfilment instead of a person. The himbo absolutely is a manic pixie dream boy, and has the same inherent toxicity. Wish fulfilment isn't wrong, so long as you don't reject independent thoughts or disagreements from your actual potential partners. The himbo is about as easy to get along with as a dog, real people come with real problems and conflict, which is why the himbo is such an endearing distraction.
@@kieranomahony7343 I love the Take. I would like to see their movie pitch for a rom-com or drama.
"Emotional Support Himbo" must be the best phrase I've learned today
No wonder I like Joey. Although he can be a man child sometimes, he's a really sweet guy who respects his friends, tries to be their for them, and can make a true emotional connection.
Himbo and true nice guys are the future 👌
"If you argue for your limitations they are yours"Richard Bach
Love this quote, once again, it links back to the theme of the video! 😍
@@trinaq thank you
ok but the herbo is a novel concept i need more of those characters in my life
Love this video!! My only gripe would be classifying Geralt from the Witcher as a himbo. Though brawny and respectful towards women, Geralt’s cynical outlook and partiality towards violence makes him fit outside of the trope. I think Geralt fits better into the “huge gruff violent man with a heart of gold” trope, especially when he interacts with Jaskier and hopefully Ciri. On that note, i would LOVE a whole video about angry dads who have their hearts won over by a powerful child they have to protect
The Himbo is the idealized male personality as Manic Pixie Girl is to females. All of us can learn positive things from them. Can you imagine a Himbo and a Manic Pixie Girl as a pair, either romantic or platonic, it'll just be positivity every time you are with them.
The Witcher is definitely not a himbo. He’s basically a detective who solves monster related incidents
I never thought of Geralt as a himbo but oh god he really is one lol
Right 🤣🤣
he's actually intelligent tho, just prefers being monosyllabic
Yup 😂😂😂😂
OH MY GOD. I JUST REALIZED THAT LINK FROM GREYS ANATOMY IS A HIMBO. HE IS A HIMBO. NO WONDER I LIKE HIM SO MUCH. NO WONDER I LIKE HIM WITH AMELIA SO MUCH. 😱😱😱
He’s a himbo who has enough smarts to become a doctor but not enough to become a douche!
I'm laughing my ass off at Geralt being in this video
I think he doesn't fit the "not very bright" criteria
Geralt is actually quite smart IMO
Indd!
Yeah, when he first popped up I was dying lool
Yeah but he's very emotionally stupid and most of the time he has dumb ideas and stupid decisions. He's very philosophical tho.
"You may be listened to for once."
Holy crap that can happen :o I need to find a himbo