Sony 85mm f1.4 GMII vs Nikon 85mm f1.2 for Portraits
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Hey everyone! Today we are comparing 2 flagship 85mm lenses to find out if you really need an f1.2 lens or if f1.4 is enough? I am using the 46 megapixel Nikon Z8 with the Nikkor Z 85mm f1.2 S and the 33 megapixel Sony A7IV with the new Sony 85mm f1.4 GMII. Throughout this portrait session, I take a variety of comparisons and share the unedited and edited photos side by side so you can see the similarities and differences. Let me know what you think in the comments!
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The 85mm F1.2 is so so good. Thanks for the comparison, Julia.
still prefer to have 1.2 . That amazing bokeh is much more appealing to my eyes.
Since I own the Nikkor Z 85mm f/1.2 S, it's my go-to lens when it comes to shootings. It's working so great with my Z8. I don't really mind the weight of the lens. The pictures are so dreamy. Great video btw.
Honestly, your skills as a photographer and editing are superb. You can make any camera/lens combo look incredible.
I do like the Nikon more! It looks better in every way in my opinion:)
Great video, I was surprised on some of these at how much a difference the 1.2 had for bokeh
Look at the difference in size of the face in the image and you'll understand there's subject distance or focal length differences at play.
I’ll take the Nikkor 85mm 1.2 S. A lovely comparison along with a lovely model.
Great video! 👌🏼 I decided on the Z 85 1.2 and bought it recently. May I ask which camera shoulder strap you are using in this video? I really like this one. Best regards 🙋🏻♂️
Lovely shots. I don't own any of these systems although judging from these pictures the Nikon one just feels more pleasant, but only because they are presented side by side.
Awesome video!!! What focus mode do you use on the Z8?
Fantastic model!
The nikon 1.2 is better in almost every way important to portrait photography .
Is there a reason why your WB is so cool in the screen recording and also somewhat in the unedited raw? Is it just a matter of 'I will jsut fix that in post' or is there a reasoning behind it?
Guessing it's probably auto white balancing over the entire frame and since most of it is in shadow the white balance is coming out very cold. Probably just photography brain not remembering to adjust it to be 'correct' for video since it's a non issue shooting raw stills.
Oh man, nikon f.1.2 have beautiful bokeh and make image pop
I was waiting for this....yassssss thank you!!!❤
I didn't see much difference
only sometimes the bokeh on the 1.2
a little smoother, but that is minimal for the lighting conditions. Beautiful photos as always, and I would also like to see some portraits of you “you have the look too 👀”🤷♂️
Thank you Julia for making this video!
Nice work Julia! I prefer Nikon😍
Hey Julia!! Great video!! I was wondering, what kind of camera strap do you use? I didn't see it in your description. Thanks againnnn! Beautiful photos!
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The reason the bokeh looks that much smoother on the Nikon on comparison at 3.03 is that you are considerably closer to the model (which makes background smoother) and to the flowers in the background (which makes the flowers much smoother)
I hope that we get a refreshed 85 1.8 and an 85 1.2 soon. Such a great focal length!
Great video as always Julia! I can't wait to see what you capture with the Canon R5 Mark II if you ever plan on making a video using that! I hope you have a great day!
Been a long time since I shot anything portrait at low f-stop. This was inspiring! Thanks :)
Very helpful video. How good is the flare resistance for these lenses? Many shots with light behind seem to have been taken without lens hood.
Thank you for this great video Mrs. Trotti!
beautiful shots Julia!
Okay , eso fue increíble, realmente increíble 👏
Great video. At this level of premium lens and low aperture, the only question is what is best for you
Both of these cameras and lens are excellent. You asked about size which is a good thing to ask. One thing that could have also helped to determine which one is for you is the price. Those 1.2 lens are usually very expensive
nice comparison, but what if you shoot Fuji's ie how about a comparison between the 56 and 90 fuji lenses, which one you would use for portraiture, and why, any preference between the two.
I would be interested you to compare the Bokeh of "old" GM and the newer one. Lots of reviews show that the "Old" GM has a bigger and "dream-look" bokeh. Perhaps keeping the old one is the best option.
Love this comparrison! How are you recording the video from the cameras?
I need to know the answer as well. But it seems like no one really knows.
Hello greetings from México!!!! I love your videos!!!! ONE question.... as you do not use FLASH..... why don´t you use the electronic shutter on both cameras???? you can save some clicks there don´t you??? Thanks for sharing!!!! 🙏🙏🙏
So nice! You remember me using the canon 85 1.2? The depth of field it's siiii minimal. So I have swap for a sigma 105mm 1.4 even bigger and heavier for this close ups and less dof. heheh obsessed great vid as always
They both are great lenses, it’s hard to pick between them.
I would bet the drunk person was a canon shooter that felt leftouy
Can you do a review on the Canon R5 Mark II because that's the new camera that Canon release.
There is too much difference in size and weight between lenses. The difference in the picture is felt in the full-length portrait, but for me personally this is not enough. By the way, there is a significant difference between the Z8 and A7 IV - the Z8 sensor is noticeably better, which adds points to it in some aspects.
I don't recall you mentioning the price difference which is considerable
Nikon is killing it. You also fall in love with the 106 1.4E and 28 1.4E
Thanks for the video. I would like a video regarding focusing. I have a Sony and I have the hardest time with focusing on subjects. Thank you.
The question for me is how postproduction with the Z6iii would compare
Great stuff!👍🏾
Honestly haven’t been the biggest fan of the GMii bokeh. It’s super sharp, optically clean and blazing fast af, and a nice size and weight but bokeh is a let down compared to original GM and even the sigma 85. In this comparison the 85 1.2 really shines, even with both at F2 the 1.2 lens looked better having softer bokeh and more circular to edge. I’d bet Sony will make a 85 1.2
Great comparison and I'm a bit shocked with the difference between 1.2 and 1.4 lol. I was wondering, have you noticed that the Sony 85 f1.4 gmii seems slightly zoomed out compared to other 85s? I just picked up the Sony as my first 85, so I have no real frame of reference (other than having the 70-200gmii that I can simulate an 85 with). Do you feel this affects the look images at all (other than just being slightly less zoomed in)...e.g. shape of the face, compression, etc? I know it's pretty minor but sort of bugging me... 😅
Sometimes 85mm lenses are not true 85mm. One of sigma 85mm lenses is actually 83mm instead of 85mm, but the lens still labelled as 85mm.
I prefer Sony GM primes but Nikon bodies, so Im stuck between the two systems .. I do find the Nikon 50 and 85 1.2 lenses offensively big and heavy, not carrying those around. Couple of your shots the 1.2 cant keep both eyes sharp but the 1.4 manages it
The Nikon can be switched to 1.4 for the eyes...
So why not use SONY lenses on Nikon bodies?
@@adamadamis you can use almost any lenses on the Z mount . That’s the beauty of having the largest flange mount of all the companies .
@@michaelmalodrums9674 but it also means if you're buying a Z lens and then you switch, you're a bit stuck
I like how she stood in front of the bench in the background. 😂
Omg the 1.2! But it’s expensive!
did you use aperty to edit these photos?
@JuliaTrotti I completely agree with you. I liked the look of the 1.2 better than that of the 1.4 when both were wide open. My back would certainly prefer the 1.4, but I still wish that Sony would release a 1.2...
What is that camera holster that you are using? Is it comfortable to carry two cameras on it all day? Is it still comfortable with just one camera on it?
Sony can’t make a 85 1.2 due to the 46.1mm size of E-Mount
@@hikertrashfilms Why does that prevent making an 85 1.2?
@@michaelcliffordphotos it’s not enough space to allow light to hit the edges of the sensor on a super fast telephoto. Nikon had a 44mm F-Mount since 1959, and could never make an effective 1.2 lens beyond the 58mm focal length. Canon had a 54mm EF mount that debuted in the 80s and they came with their first 85 1.2 in the 80s. It took Nikon over 3 decades to match Canon at 85, and it was when they abandoned the 44mm mount and moved to a 55mm mount.
@@hikertrashfilmsnot true. Nikons F mount limitation was due to mount size AND flange distance. Sony’s short flange distance makes their mount size less of an issue. They can certainly make a 85 1.2. In fact there is already one for e mount made by mitakon
Thank you for the great comparison. I also compared an adapted Sigma 85mm f1.4 DG DN e-mount lens with the Nikon 85mm f1.2 S on my Z8 and can confirm that it also beats the Sigma when it comes to optical quality. However the Sigma is of course much smaller and lighter.
you can also add the Sigma 85 1.4 lens because it works on Sony and with the magadap ring on Nikon :D we would have seen if the Sigma 85mm 1.4 is how vs the two mastodons and 1000/2000 € difference depending on the brand :D
Hi Julia, please how do you record your camera view?
1.2 ❤❤❤ so better
how do you record screen? thank you!
Could you tell
me with information about your camera strap
1.2 for the win. So beautiful.
The bokeh from the Nikon 85mm 1.2s is bigger and smooth than the Sony 85 1.4, the green and pink tone so beautiful than sony
Hi, I'm very new to photography. May I know what kind of device she uses to record what she shoots?
Hi julia plz tell me best ND filter for sony
plz help me
I bought a Sony A7III and am looking for a lens to shoot bridal, wedding and portrait sessions so that they create stunning images with a special character that competes with other photographers. In your opinion, is tamron 35-150 e mount lens suitable?
Or choose one of these options
1_ sigma 85 1.4 dg dn with sigma 24-70 g2
2_ sony 50mm 1.2
3- sigma 28-105. f 2.8
By and large I do not think most people can actually tell the difference between lenses which are above a certain quality, all of the lenses you mentioned meet that standard. For portraits what people notice more is the depth of field, and that's the advantage of having one of those primes. Beyond that, stunning photos happen in your skill with the camera and editing.
I'd worry more about getting something you're comfortable with. People get the zooms because they do not want to switch lenses which is a huge advantage in a wedding situation, and the lens with the most versatility would be the tamron or samyang (which is cheaper) 35-150. If this is specific to portrait sessions where you have basically full control over lighting and composition, of this list I'd go with the 85 sigma because its going to have the thinnest depth of field. If you really want to buy the lens with the highest optical performance, a lens I never used but based off what I've seen online, I'd go with the sony 50 1.2.
Do you use UV filters?
love this!
Let's wait for the Sony 85 f0.95 GM 😤😤
I think Sony's product strategy is to offer smaller lenses and cameras, so we probably won't see an 85mm f0.95 from Sony anytime soon.
Will never happen the mount is too small @@stefan_becker
@airjaff that's proven wrong many times. It can go to f/0.67 if they want. But that'd be pointless.
@@airtyme Funny cos Nikon F mount was even smaller. So is Leica M mount. That's an extremely old myth that came about from bias. Not fact.
Never happening. They couldn't even follow the industry trend and make an 85 1.2. Then it also turns into whether they want to make a high end manual focus lens because no .95 lens in existence has auto focus.
I did not get why you kept the same ISO. The main point of 1.2 is to allow a lower ISO and hence a cleaner image
the point is shallow depth of field not low iso.
Depends on user but why waste the ISO space. Would you keep the same ISO if you set it up to f2.8? If the answer is no, then iso is best left in auto.
@@HikingWithMartinlet me rephrase you can have both. Shallow and low ISO. Why she choose to sacrifice one is mind boggling to me. She out the Nikon on an unfair disadvantage
@@DanielRodriguez-fg5ll No it just makes no real world difference, you are fussing about nothing. I dont think you can percieve what is just over a third of a stop difference in iso. in aperture yes, iso you cant, shutter speed you cant. Youd be more correct to look at the camera to subject changes from shot to shot having an impact.
@@HikingWithMartin maybe. but if that is going to be the approach and the model is stationary, I would argue then that the real comparison is to use minim ISO, ISO64 in the Z8, Z9. I mean, if we are going to use an arbitrary ISO (deviating from the one that completes the "triangle"), we might as well pick the lowest to offer the cleanest images.
Hi Julia, how can we get best colors on Sony camera ? which profile to use or post processing?
@@jaipalreddy4894 the very reason I went back fully to nikon. I can't fix sony colors regardless of what I do.
Maybe nikon best lens overall?
It's only one third of a stop difference between 1.4 and 1.2, so it only shows when comparing side to side. The difference in lens bulk, heft and price are much more noticeable. For those who are ok with that, i assume SONY will release a 1.2 version as well, like they did with 50mm.
Merci pour cette vidéo !
Nikon nailed it.. amazing results..❤❤🎉
Could it be that the Nikkor 85mm F1.2 is a bit longer in focal range, as the Sony? As it is just 1/2 of a stop difference this would answer, why the bokeh seems to be that much bigger. The comparison at F2, the Sony bokeh is round, with the Nikkors bokeh you can see the blades and it has some color fringing around the bokeh balls.
The Sony has cut off bokeh ball circles at f2, top of frame. 7:27
What about canon 85mm?
Great Video
The contrast is simply a camera profile. Set it to vivid and you'll get darker contrast
nikon 1.2 lens looks definitly more dreamy, but the size and weight really matters, not to mention the price🤣
The Nikon is an impressive lens, despite being the size of a human skull and literally twice as heavy and $800 more. The results look so close, but since the difference is very subtle, I prefer the lighter, smaller Sony. Of course, none of this matters if you don’t shoot the mount of the lens you prefer. I’m glad Sony went with f1.4 on this update because it kept the size manageable, but I suspect an f1.2 version may be coming for those that don’t mind all the extra weight.
Those differences will never be noticed by the client, its really for our satisfaction, which is fine. Shame Nikon released a 1.4 range that might not be pro as I hate the weight of the 1.2's.
You think those same clients will notice the difference between a budget 1.4 and expensive “pro“ 1.4?
@@livejames9374 They might if the lens can’t deal with issues like sun flare or other shooting conditions. But hopefully you’re right 😊
Nice
I would be interested in comparing Sony and Panasonic with the same lenses. But in this case, the Nikon lens looks better in terms of color rendering and the picture is somehow more alive and airy.
colour rendering is down to the editing unless you deliver unedited photos
@@nickwilliams7867 not always
okay. I just wanna buy the camera which shot the footage next✌🏼😅
1.4 is sooo good enough for me. The 1.2 comes with a price that will be crazy.
Now get yourself the amazing Z 135 1.8 S Plena
Julia doesn’t like the 135 focal length that much.
These were so pretty very dreamy. This is why I love the 85!! I was really surprised how both raw images looked so similar! I was watching on an uncalibrated monitor though. Do the files look almost identical to you Julia? How do skin tones compare? The model is absolutely stunning!!!
F1.4❤
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At the end of the video, where you talk about "bigger/bulkier/heavier" lenses -- I want to point out something that really only gets mentioned sporadically (if at all), the MOUNT SIZE (& function).
Nikon Z has the largest mount compared to Sony/Canon/Fuji etc. I guess on the "con" side, this makes Nikon make larger/bulkier/heavier lenses bc the mount lends itself to it.
But it has a whole bunch of "pros" that don't get enough attention/mentions/love: the big one being it DOESN'T "bend light" as much, if it all, due to the larger mount & it sitting closer to the sensor. This also allows more light to get to the sensor too, even when shooting higher apertures.
As things have shifted to Mirrorless, one of the big complaints has been about "Nikon Z bodies/lenses 'being heavy/bulky'" -- particularly, Sony shooters lol NO HATE, just an observation -- but there is a reason for it & design/functionality involved.
Nikon is innovating & pushing gear to the next level, I just don't think it gets talked about in a way that gets as much hype as new Eye-AF tech or something 😅 which is a shame.
Don’t you like to use artificial lights?
Seems like some photos leave something to be desired w.r.t. lighting
Im shocked how big the difference from 1.4 to 1.2 tourns out to be…? I was expecting them to be basically the same, but man. ..the 1.2 Images have that „extra factor“… also the skintones on the nikon have so much dephth…huge fan….
sony 135mm 1.8 gm vs nikon 135mm f 1.8 plena . 언제 필요하시려나?
Plena destroys the GM.
for my the best SONY 85MM 1.4 II , Thanks for this video Julia
Love you Julia ❤
The Nikon lens is also more flattering on the model’s skin. The Sony really does just have too much detail and reveals more than you’d want to see.
The Nikon 85mm never leaves my Z9… of course if you have noodle arms pick the Sony.
omg the nikon lens is like holding a rocket launcher lol. i feel like the nikon is more of a luxury lens cause i bet its super expensive. and to your point, i cant imagine carrying that around for long events like weddings.
Lens sony 85 mm f1.4 c’est mieux que Nikon ???
woww
The weight difference between both setups is probably pretty noticeable lol :)
There is a tad bit of more bokeh with the Nikon but its nothing big to do crazy over. You really have to look at the bokeh to even notice it when the background is far away. When the background is close you can notice it more.
@@bigrobotnewstoday1436 that’s not the only difference . The types of lens coatings , how much ghosting do you get in heavy backlit situations which in this video the Nikon did better . Better in the flaring too .
@@michaelmalodrums9674 True.
Wear the hood, reduce the flare
Nikon len
Wow Nikon z8❤