Whats the Best Street Tire for traction 600hp - 900hp TEST
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2018
- What's the best tire for the street and street racing or track. We test out 3 popular brand tires and put them to the test with Brians 650whp Pro Charged coyote and my 800whp gt500.
Tires Tested
Toyo R888R
NITTO NT555R
Mickey Thompson ET Street S/S
All tires were tested at 20psi on a 70 degree day
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This was my 3rd set of MT, I was a fan boy before this...If your NEW to the channel....welcome to the Joyride fam. Subscribe and I’ll see you in the next vlog. Thanks.
It's all in the size. You put 15" Mickey's that were bouncing all over (wheel hop) because your suspension can't handle the power. Try that with 18"-20" Mickey's. Your comparing apples & oranges.
We had been trying to find tires that will hook with a 700whp/800wtq twin turbo vette, tried NT05R ran that for a few years and they were ok but spun a lot, tried MT S/S similar experience to yours, then the Toyo R888R we just put on and it is a completely different level of grip. FINALLY the car it is supposed to be. Pricey but its 100% worth it for the unbelievable traction. Will now be using this for every high HP application we have. Definitely recommend anyone with high HP build trying these out. Thx for the video.
And how's it going? I've been watching your videos and I'm trying to make a decision right now between a Whipple supercharger and a VMP. I've seen your videos I was just like your personal opinion and experience if you don't mind?
You guys should have used the Nitto NT05R not the 555s . NTO5Rs are much better
I work for a Mickey Thompson distributor. The et street ss is a street tire that has good enough properties to compete at the strip for the novice. You the toyo is made for the track and not legal for street. The results were no surprise. Mickey ET street R would be a better comparison but still street legal
When a 650hp car owner rides in an 800hp car, his car will evolve into an 800hp+ car. Lol
itsjussjerry ahahahaha! You know it.. 2 weeks from now he’ll be making a video with 800whp
Thats why I wont ride in an 800rwhp car lol.
itsjussjerry also that 5.8 is gonna put down way more tq at lower rpm over those 5.0
haha i went from 300 to 700
@@skteboarder12 Wow! that's a huge jump lol
You wouldn’t piss me off if you were my neighbor... I could listen to you testing tires aaaaaallllll day. Yeeeeeeeeaah!!!!
Gay
As long as it wasn't at night. Well I still might be laying there smiling while listening to that supercharged coyote scream :D
I’d be chillin in my front yard watching the launches
My neighbors hate me, day or night
@@JAYDMGYM how is that gay
Always a good time watching your videos. Thanks keep them coming
Hell yeah thank you for this video !
My 03 makes 720 and good info to know !
JD- I remember speaking to a Mickey Thompson rep when I ran ET street radials on my stick car, he said you only need to do a small burnout and just scuff the tires, the burnout in the video was wayyy to much and would have caused the tires to be over heated and greasy. If the tires are old and heat tempered they will require a longer burnout to be sticky but he said thats the point to toss them.
ndinadis I did a small burn out at the track and about took out the light /tree ,had to do crazy burn out for them hook on my Mickey Thompson’s I have vide on my youtube channel let me know what you think
@@ricktrent4 whats your definition of a small burnout though? look at any drag racer running 315 or 275 M/T drag radials, they do small burnouts, not super smokey and barely take it pass the starting line but get their best 60ft times.
ndinadis they are new
JvRacingVids doing longer burnouts on a prepped surface is not the same as on asphalt.
@@anthonybillings6554 obviously. but when a M/T rep talks about burnouts and making tires sticky, hes speaking about at the track, thats my point.
I have a lightly modded gt500 with the stock F1’s and I can’t wait to replace them with some toyo’s. Thanks for posting this video! And keep up the good work!
What R888R tire/wheel size are you going to buy 305/35r20 on 20×11 ???
Martin Fregoso I run the R888 toyo on my cobra hands down best tire and last longer aswell and if you get caught in the rain don't be scared they do really well in rain
I couldn't believe it when I change them on my C5 Corvette.
I had the Michelin run-flats on my car and then I changed my tires to Toyo T1 Proxes Sports and I've had them for 20,000 miles and the traction is still unbelievable.
I personally like the Toyo T1 Proxes sport better than the Michelin Pilot super sport that come stock on the C7 Corvette
Synthetic Oil Protection how long is the tread? Just blew up one of my super sports they hook decent I got 480whp yo I think those toyos you have will hook good enough and daily?
I like this type of tests. Thanks a lot. Great content.
Thanks for sharing your testing and opinion! Great video!!!
Don't know about the tires just love watching and listening you go thru those gears !!!
Thanks for the video! Your 500 is badass man
Great video! Thanks for this! I had no idea what tire to run on my car. Now I do. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
This was a surprise haha but I really like the way you put this all together! Glad I could help spread some useful information!
Yeah I ran a set on some 15s before. Never thought they were bad but I did run them once after the car was boosted and they were okay but I broke them free relatively easy in first gear. 2nd they started to hook. They still had half tread at that point in time too.
Great video - I could be wrong but aren't those MT's brand new? They usually require a little break in, on top of that burn out being pretty damn long. I've watched those tires run on 1000 HP cars and hold up pretty well. Also have you tried the E/T Street R's?
Great video JD! I'm having the same dilemma as you in picking tires, for my GT500...
Excellent R&D Video!! Enjoyed that one and I'm sure it was some real fun too !
I agree. The Toyo R888's are very good. I had a pair.
Yelp
The heck, I thought Jarred Goff was walking up to the camera when I first so him lmao good video!
LOL he DO look like jared goff! LOL
Great comparison. I have the Toyo's on my Supra they hook great but don't do well in the rain as most drag radials don't.
Thanks man for the research great video!!!
I'm running a set of 555R's on my Terminator making 650rwhp and they have been fantastic. Definitely some of the best bang for you buck tires I've personally tested. Great video.
What have you done to your terminator?
Do u believe nt555r2s will hook from a dig with 480 whp ?
@@shelbyhaiketic4212 Yes obviously will grip very well hook up but your tire always must be WARM UP ALWAYS.
Drive for 45 minutes at 80 mph then stop then burn out for 20 seconds then try in 2nd gear.
Remember depend on tire width size for power. If 650 rwhp. Will very dead hook with 305 tire size at 30 mph.
My c7 z06 705 rwhp is dead hook up at 30 mph on 2 gear with 335 tire size of NT 555R and I use other 555R2 and NT 05, and R888R
All hook up very well after I done cruise at high speed for 45 min to make tire warm and at 80 degrees weather. Grip REALLY GOOD.
@@RobertPope-RAZ that what are some tires I can get where I don’t have to do a burnout out or drive hella long to warm up? Will falcon azenis rt660 be better for that ?
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Mickeys are for strip racing. Try running all 3 on a track and see which one hooks better. I run Nittos on the street and Mickeys on the strip. I totally agree with you on the price. Nittos are definitely priced better, especially when you get into a 305/20-20 tire
Awesome video! You’ve got me wanting the Toyos now.
Great video! Love all the stangs
I had a pair of copper zeon rs3-a tires that honestly really impressed me. They came on the car when I bought it and they held life incredibly well and hooked way better then I ever thought a cooper could
Just wanted to let you know it’s been 2 years and no one liked or commented on your comment haha
@@sancasmiadas1 man wtf 😂😂😂😂
That's a badass ride bro! Love the way the exhaust sounds.
Thanks for the video! Good info, and honest opinions
Awesome video man and very helpful! I'm running the nittos now and they do pretty well... but I dont have 800hp lol
9:28.. oh gods be praised.. that sweet sound made my day!! Loved the video!!!
This is a great video for fellow enthusiasts to find good tires.
, I have been running Toyo T1 Proxes Sports on my C5 Corvette for 2 years and I am amazed with the traction that still Remains. My Toyotas have 20,000 miles on them and they still have good tread and lots of traction. I personally like the Toyota T1 Proxes sport better than the Michelin Pilot Super Sport.
I had toyo t1 and swapped to R888R-s, it is day and night. Much better traction with the latter, more pricey of course but wear is not an issue because it is on a lightweight hobby car. I wouldn't recommend R888R-s on heavier cars especially if you don't run it on track and if you don't have serious horsepower.
Great vid! This is very useful real world info.
I’m glad the nittos hook! I haven’t gotten my foxbody finished yet but that’s what I have on it! Can’t wait for spring 😀
555R’s will also get you home in the rain every time. Once the surface temp of the 555R’s gets to 110°F, they hook just as good as any other DR. The tread actually is beneficial when digging into street asphalt.
They don't do well with stadning water though
@@hackdeez1075 They do better than most other DR’s, and I’ve run them all.
Has R888R or 555R worked better as of today?
What size tires did you test
Super cool video! Thanks for posting.
That’s dope man. Thanks for the review
So glad the proof is out there now . Nitto has always been better for me .
@A Fera Agree that NT05R is garbage. Have them on my 800whp s550 6r80, they need to go.
TOYO R888's FTW! That's what I've got on my GT500 (with about 725whp) and they hook better than any other tires I've had as well!
even nt05r bro
thegreatwhite75 are they a good duly tire ? I’m thinking about getting a set of r888s
@@cheyenneobregon184 Not sure, I don't daily my GT500. And I don't drive it in the rain either. I would imagine they'd be great when it's dry out, but might not be that good in the rain. Also, (because they're a softer compound) I'm sure they would probably wear out a little faster than others too.
thegreatwhite75 which ones did you get and what website? I’m thinking of ordering them 😂
@@cheyenneobregon184 they're the TOYO PROXES R888. Can't remember where I ordered them from though. (Always ordering stuff) lol
Awesome video man.the sound of your supercharger is so sexy lol keep up the great work
I look forward to your videos man just a bunch of chill people and a bad ass Shelby
nycthreye So glad you enjoy the Vlogs.
I run 315 R888r's on my Camaro... 906/800 and these tires even in cooler weather hook well for me. I prefer handling over just straight line grip with a DR. These for me are the ideal mix of traction from a dig or slow roll, while still being able to attack curves on the road course, off ramp or back roads. Its a preference but they hold power, that's no a if. I also ran them a 775/690 C5Z with the same amazing results.
Sledgehammer how many miles do you get out of a set
Do they spin a tiny bit on street?
@@the_batmobile0.4 All tires spin on the street or track??? The question is how much wheel spin before it hooks up
@@gruppegee ok how much they spin on street before hook?
All you guys asking if they spin, yes they do spin when not fully warmed up. I make over 850whp / 785tq and they spin 1st thru 3rd but they go straight. No surprises.
You should try M&H racemasters drag radials. Amazing tires hooks on my 800whp gtr
Ryan j dude that’s nasty, I’d love to ride in your GTR
It amazing that those are the three tires im looking at rn thanks for the tests
This is a good video thank you, I subscribed
I always have been a big fan Mickey Thompson, now, NITTO & TOYO Thanks 🙏
Well why the John Force burnout. Mickey's only need a quick spin. You over heated the tires.
He also showed a comparison later on in the video in his car and the difference is night and day still
The mickeys are completely bald
Non of these tires truly compare to the Mickeys. You don’t bake ANY tire like that and expect traction on asphalt aside from a slick.
That's the kind of burnout you do with someone else's tires.
I thought this to. Fucking tards probably had them at 30 psi or more as well. Never used the Toyo's, but out of mickeys, nittos, and bfg dr's mickeys are so much better than the other 2 that its not even a comparison. Dear mustang nerds learn to use a tire before you compare it.
Now that's having fun.. let's keep in mind that this test was for street use . Good comparison overall. That 2nd Stang sounds sick
Brilliant video I know what my next tyres are going to be well done.
This is Doctor Gunther Zoloft!
Got r888r for my 600hp camaro 408. It hooks in first. Its a really good street tire. Only down side is they don’t last long. So if it’s not your daily then I get them. A lot better then the r888.
Matt Callaway yeah the MT only lasted 3-4K miles
R888r's are my go to as well. Compared to Nitto NT01 and Federal RSRR. Also Toyota feel the best when your sideway for side bite.
I ran the street SS's all last summer and at the track they dead hooked. they did well from a 40 roll. This year I swapped to the NT555R because of the price and they're great from a roll but could not get them to hook on track. 1st pass smoked, 2nd pass had terrible wheel hop then smoked. Next up Hoosier QTP's! Everyone love the R888'rs
I run nitro 555rs on my nova and love them!
Would love to see you do a drag strip track test
You would have to build a Texas Roadhouse on it to get him there.
😂😂✌️
Yea I run the nittos 555r g2 and they hook which I’m at 440 hp supercharged 07 gt . Glad you did the video I was wondering about those toyo 888
Such an important video JD!!!! I love your R&D. I've heard the Toyos are awesome and you just kind of proved it. I'm using the Kuhmo Ecsta ACR 355s and they hook pretty well. But I might switch to the Toyos next Summer. Great video! Keep up the JD R&D!
Cars&Life yeah I was surprised on how much traction I got with them.
@@JD_JoyrideTV And they're great in the corners!
M&H Racemasters. Try those.
I’m getting Toyo Tires for my Stang👍
Thanks JD
This video was much needed
I haven't used the R888's on my camaro but I do use the 555R's. I chose them because from research they seem to do better in wet conditions.
I like how most of these comments have mustangs as profile pics 😂
Adam Shook That’s not true.. 😅
Yes it is very very odd that people with Mustangs like/comment on a video featuring a mustang.
wtf true
Hmmmmmm,I wonder why🤔 don't think too hard,your brain may burst😂🤣
I wonder why
What's goin' on, JD? This video was a little different, but very cool as always. Nothing like some real world testing and the results speak for themselves. Brian's car sounds good too, but I love that Shelby.👍😎 I recently went for a ride in a good friend's 2010 GT500 (784whp) and that shit feels good!💪 He did a few quick pulls and couldn't stay in it long, but I got a dose of what that power level is like. BTW, I read where you mentioned that you've been slacking a bit lately. It's really none of my business, but I will say this... you know I'm a big fan, but as long as you're spending that time with your family, that's not slacking. No shame in that whatsoever, JD!👍 Keep doin' what you do, brother! Hope y'all have a great weekend!✌
TheMick26 that’s awesome you got to ride in your buddy’s GT500. Same power level as mine on 93oct...what TQ?
And yes I’ve been spending more time with the fam.
@@JD_JoyrideTV Hey JD. He's selling everything to move out west and take up the RV lifestyle. What is it with GT500s and RVs?😉 He wanted to re-dyno the car before selling it to verify his tune. I took him to pick it up 2 weeks ago and we went for a ride. I will try to find out the particulars on his setup. Pretty sure it's a 3.6 Kenne Bell. I don't believe it was on 93 (I'll verify), but I think it was a mix of 93 and 110. I'll try to check. It'll be up for sale very soon though. Have a nice weekend, bud.
@@JD_JoyrideTV Was the Toyo R888R tire size 305/35r20? Do you have 20×11 wheels?
JD JoyrideTV those micks were bald. How about you use new ones
If the 93 and the 110 octane were mixed in equal parts, that would be 101.5 octane..
@@TheMick26
I ran ET street R 305s on a S550 with around 600 wheel they hooked up really well for me with about 14psi in them. As far as warming them, soon as you see smoke let off brakes and roll a little to just haze them and they will be grippy not greasy.
Glad I seen this. I was considering going to Mickey Thompson ET's from NT555r's. Guess I'm sticking with the nittos.
How are you going to compare old tires with new tires. Lol
@@SaltyDogPerformance it's bald lol
Exactly
Or fucking balloons to 40s
Yep...kids playing but hop hop on burnout....not good chassis.
He clearly said he could never hook with the mt when he first got them
1st of alll...before i watch the rest...why arent you comparing the nitto nto5r?? The 555 are no bueno in the comparison
Stephen Brumm I would have if I had a set, I’ve heard they were even better than the 555r’s
@@JD_JoyrideTV much much much better....
Yes, the NT05R would of been a better comparison.
I have the NT05Rs and they hook nasty.
GoFuckYaSelf _Cobra what’s your tq and hp?
As someone with a modest ~380 hp at the wheels, the Nittos rock! Best street drag radial I've used.
What car?
I just purchased my first 2013 GT 500. Great video BTW. I have a question. What’s the widest tire I can put on this car.
Put the M/T at 10psi and you see the different also you over heat the M/T with that burn out J/F ,👍
its a radial not a slick, you don't go that low in psi on a DR...
As far as performance goes, a DOT bias ply is hard to beat. It's going to give you the best traction and, due to the tires ability to wrinkle and absorb the initial shock, it'll soften the blow to your drive train. It's as close as you're going to get to a slick and still be street legal
You dont want to go fast on a bias ply on the street
@@PressurePlayerStudioYou must be to young. Bias tires have been around since 1920s. Drag slicks are bias. They are on funny cars and rails . they hook up way better on launch but kids like roll racing!
I knpw what they are, but you don't want to go over 180 on them for extended periods of time like on the highway@@vhp454
You don't want to drive around on bias tires, not fun!
650 rwhp, 508 ft. pounds of torque. 3.73 gear. Replaced my 555G2 with Nitto NT05. Major improvement! Staggered 305/30/20 R, 275/35/20 F. Hooks in 3rd solid. 2nd gear still a little spinning
Just the video I needed.
5:23 when Mustang drivers see a crowd 😭😭
Nice vid, but at least test some Mickeys with some tread on them that arent wore out.
Leonard Riddick I got the Mickeys new and traction hasn’t changed...I’ve never been able to get them to hook 2nd gear ever.
Thanks for the video, I've been floating between these 3 exact tires and wondering which would be the best. I just bought the 555r but have yet to use them I'll have to try the r888r after I wear these out. Keep it up man
Did you do any suspension adjustment with the tires or just a simple wheel/tire swap and go. Drag radials are extremely picky with suspension setup.
Hey JD, I heard you only get about 10 heat Cycles out of a set of R888R's, do you know anything about that?
I heard toyos are heat cycle proof
@@MrDerekRobinson no sticky tire is heat cycle proof.
@@Twobarpsi just saying it's what I heard. I don't have any proof lol
@@MrDerekRobinson yeah, they lose their stickiness real fast like 30 or so heat cycles aka burnouts. That's what I heard.
@@Twobarpsi yeah I've heard 3 things now. 1 is they have no heat cycles, 2 you can only get 7 cycles and 3 30 cycles/burnouts
Lower tire pressure on the Mickey thompsons to around 18 to 20 psi.
Jonathan B thats exactly where I had them.
I guess go with whatever works. Lol
18 to 20 is 2 high drop it down to 14 and watch the gap in difference
Mine are at 14 🤷🏼♂️😂
Lower them to 10 -12 psi n try the mickeys again
Great video man.
Love the video!
I believe nt555r & r888r are close if not the same rubber composition, with different sidewall structure. The 8's are a road course tire of course and work really well on the street. I've run both also, currently the 5r
Nitto is a sister company of toyo. I have been selling toyos for years now, cracks me up when people say they hate toyo but love the nitto tire. Then I tell them they are basically the same. Funny to watch there reaction.
I always felt the 888's were better than 555's
I run r888 up in the California canyons it’s superior 👍🏽
@@guitaristwagner Both are good when new but i think the 555r weighs a little less and def works better on the drag strip
The mickey Thompsons work great at the track but i cant get them to hook on the street either
Mike Norton yeah I think that’s where they might put shine the others.
My experience between nittos and mickeys are night and day. Nittos out the box, no spin. 100 miles later, they started spinning in 1st gear pulls. More miles, the worse it gets. Around 1k miles, 2nd became useless.
Mickeys, over 3k miles and exactly the same as day one. Just a sec of spin the top of first at about 6200. Never heated the tires other then normal driving. The mickeys just seem more violent but i do not trust them in a turn due to lack of sidewall sizes.
My cousin has an 03 cobra. Tried many tires and sizes to get all 600 down with an 11 inch ccw. A 315 toyo, allows 2nd gear to hook. We've been through many tires between us both. Recommend toyo over all others anyday for the street.
got an important question because I also have those r888r's on a chevy ss. What pressure would you recommend for the dragstrip?
Helpful video thank you! I know what my next tires are...
I just bought the 555r extreme drag. They dead hook on the street. I’ll test them on the track Saturday...Maple Grove...RUclips callout...BE THERE!
370H55V O773H well how did they do?
@@slomango7927 hooked really hard on the track. The track was tight that day too. But I actually destroyed my differential from it hooking so hard.
My 900whp hellcat has proven (to me) that the MT absolutely de-fuckin-stroys the nittos. The 555rs felt like street tires in comparison. Haven't tried the Toto so can't comment on that. I can say that burnout was waaaayyy to long
I love the R888 on my Mach. Great tires and Ill definitely be trying the R888R when mine are done.
What tire pressure would you recommend on the Nitto or the Toyo at the track for Drag Racing?
#teamlaura
Get a micky et street radicals. You’ll have no problem not the same bull crap. 700hp Honda Civic FWD HOOKS very well with those lol r888’s spin. I hate r888’s got maybe 5000 miles out of them from spinning.
What was the size on those Toyo's ? I was looking at trying the new R series on my GT500. The old one's do pretty well on my Sn95, but kind of blow at the track for launching because the sidewall.
I’m a Chevy guy through n through but absolutely love that rip and whine you had going.
I recently swapped out my MT ET street ss 305's for the r888r. For normal and wet weather the r888r is excellent. But unfortunately I can't launch at all without spinning like a stripper on a greased up pole.
R888 are garbage for dig racing.
@@maximusvonce1381 I agree even on my crx my Mt et St will grip and rip. My r888r are my daily wheel I can play with for road course and roll. For digs and strip it's the Et St all day
Nitto is made by Toyo, Toyo is japan and Nitto is essentially Toyo America. The 555R would be more comparable to the R888, where as the NT05 or NT01 would be closer to the R888R.
So, which is better for street hooning... NOT5R or R888R?
Bhajan Singh they would be very similar in compound, but I would go for the Nitto as they will be cheaper.
That's pretty informative. Lots of guys I know run the MT ET S/S. I saw in the video they were the 275 in a 15". What were the Toyo R888R's? I can't remember how wide that Shelby wheel is and I'm trying to guess....9.5" so 285/30/19?
Thank you now I know what tires I’m using on my 2jz rx8
1:33 Damn this makes me want a v8
Guy looks like Jared Goff
I'm a ls guy but this channel is keeping it real!!
This is good Datas, well done