Nitto NT05r or Mickey Thompson ET Street
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- Nitto NT05r Street/Drag Radial or Mickey Thomson ET Street R Street/Drag radial - Which is better for the Street and drag strip? Both street drag radial have great reviews & solid options if you need more traction for straight line racing. The Nitto NT05r or MT ET Street R which is the better option for street & strip? If you're interested in Charger, Challenger, R/T, Hemi, Scatpack, SRT, Hellcat or any Mopar content make sure to subscribe.
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What's your favorite Street/Strip tire? Both of these are pretty damn solid options
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Having run the NT05R at 315/35r20 and the MT ET Street S/S at 305/35r20 at the drag strip I can say the MTs are definitely better in my opinion. I'm assuming that would translate to the street as well but my street use was limited to driving from the house to the drag strip and back. I would say from one of my experiences on the way to the strip if the road has any bit of gravel or debris on it if you don't do a burnout to clean the tires off they are practically like being on skates. I made the mistake of assuming since they were DRs I could just stab it at a light and everything would be golden but no I ended up almost sideways.
I like M&H Racemasters drag radials over the Nitto NT05s and the Mickey Thompson ET Street R. The M&H Racemasters provide good grip. In addition, the M&H Racemasters are better in the rain if you get caught in it on the way home from the dragstrip. Mickey Thompsons are good at the dragstrip. However, the compound is very soft and they wear out quickly even for a drag radial. If I had to pick between the Nittos and Mickey Thompsons, I would take the former.
R/T Life I’m running the Mickey Thompson Street SS and they hook!
Hoosier bias ply.
I always enjoy informative videos!
Helps me when in a valley Of decision.
And who are these people that give you the thumbs down?? They probably go around putting dislikes on everyone. What a miserable life they must have.
I always get a thumbs down - it doesn't bother me at all. A vote is a vote - helps the video. Thank you for the support! Glad this was somewhat helpful.
I have a 2016 Hellcat, on the street on 10.5 inch Hellcat Wheels I run 315/35/20 nto5 nittoes for street driving. Although I have run a 1.61 60ft in the qtr mile. I also run 305/45/17 MT ET sreet r tires on 17in wheels. Best 60ft 1.47. These are drag only, however they are completely legal to drive on the street. The nto5r nittoes work well on the street. I think both are a great combo. For street and strip.
yah when you have that kind of power, that is a solid 1/2 combo. On the streets you need those nittos for any kind of traction
NTO5R is fine for 650whp or less. If you're making more than that, don't waste money on anything other than the Mickey. 305 45 18 NTO5R would spin at any speed under 70mph in my modded hellcat. Same size mickey I can dead hook a 40 roll. HUGE difference
Gotcha - the ET streets def have that super soft compound. I’m not at the power level yet to run into any issues with either. Maybe one day
@@RTLife once you go forced air, you'll be there! If you go turbo, the nto5r still might be ok since they don't usually hit as hard and boost can be ramped in. If you go supercharged, you'll want the mickey since it will hit like a ton of bricks
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What’s your thought on the NT555R2
@@youtubewatchmen8318 about the same as the NTO5R probably. A little better that the OG 555R
I agree with your assessment, weather permitting, I'm going to try the NT555rs on the Scat Pack on the strip next Saturday.
I hear they're solid tires - let me know how that 392 does with them on
Sounds like the SS would be a better match up with the Nittos and ironically, just got a set for the Challenger last weekend. Went 305x17s, and am just waiting for the new rims to show so that I can get them mounted. These types of reviews are informatie and very helpful, so I'm glad that you did it and keep up the good work buddy. Your channel rocks 💪🏼😎
Thank you - glad this was helpful in some light. Let me know what you of the new rim/tire setup when it's all on the SRT.
@@RTLife Hey man, I finally got them on a couple of months ago and love em. I went with racestar darkstars and are perfect together with the Mickey's, they also 17s reduced the wt close to 100 lbs. I got one of those z-automotive electronic line lock burnboxes for it, and is great for heating up those 305s and are awesome tires
Best rt life video I've seen in a while. Thanks for the insight.
Im running a 245/45/20 on my cammed 5.7 and they are worthless. Only a 9" rim though so not sure if i wanna go just with a 275 or a whole new wheel tire setup
hahaha I bet every acceleration turns into a burnout! I would get 315's on that beast
@@RTLife its got a 3.73 LSD so in short, yes. Lol
It's always nice to know the difference before you pull the trigger on one. Good stuff Bro!
yah these seem to be popular options - hope it helps some down the road
I ran both on a Hellcat. MT’s hands down.
yah at your power level the MT is def the way to go
I rocked ET Street R's for the last two years. Then I moved to a full bias ply setup for the track.
Never used full bia ply - big difference from the ET Streets?
@@RTLife So real bias ply tires have no side walls or steel radial belts. They are by definition squishy. When I run them I run at 15.00 PSI and on launch with the Hellcat they take the hit and act like a spring instead of spinning. Totally recommend with forced induction.
I have both of these tires. I got a 1.47 60’ with the ET street R on a full weight Charger Hellcat. I run the NT05R on the street and the ET Street R at the strip.
yah that seems like the best combo - both great tires.
Nitto design looks sharp imo
they are nice looking tires
Great video. I was looking into the nto5 for my car when the time comes. Heard good things
The NT05r is a solid option - esp if you're going Street/Strip. I liked having them on the street
@@RTLife our strip is still closed so im all street for the time being unfortunately.
Thank you sir 👍🏾 I appreciate the R & D 😎
Learning as I go. I appreciate the support!
I bought the mt radials since I will be using them for the drag strip. I will more than likely go with toyo r888r for the street someday since there pricey lol. For now I’m just on regular street tires
dude those prices are so high! I was checking them out - great reviews though
R888R are an awesome tire. No worries when the occasional corner comes up either.
Super Stock is going to enter my life.... I just hope the Nittos will be good in the street... If not, I will change them out...
I'm still laughing at the thought of you going to a track and swapping drag packs.
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Thanks for your time and honest input! I’m tire shopping for my Challenger Because my local track doesn’t allow street tires on test n tune nights, i’m gonna give those ET street R’s a shot👍
You will really enjoy the extra traction the ET Street R provides - it's a solid option
A 17” or 18” ET STREET R is hard to beat
exactly - I don't believe my RT will ever overpower the rim/tire setup
I run 28x13.5-15ET streets on my dodge Dakota rt on 10” wheels, but I just picked up some of these 275/60-15 ET street R for $200 for the pair, brand new still with stickers, I’ll have to try them next summer
That's a great price - let me know how you like them
I have an 04 mach1 i run 315s in the rear and nto5rs got destroyed very quickly with street only use, tiny bit of gravel caused a burnout took the sidewall out down to the wires, 3k miles on em, my older 555r would handle street pretty well , trying the ss next or maybe toyo dr
My 392 almost dead hooks with the nitto nt05r 315s 😀
Yup! They're a solid tire option - I really enjoyed having them in back
My 305/35 r19 nto5r don't hook for shit on my 500whp c6 corvette
Michelin pilot pro all season is the best all season tire available
I have to give them a try. After the G2 wears out I'm going to give another all season performance tire a try
Seeing how we live in the Northeast I pretty much like a tired I could do a little bit of everything. Just had a massive blow out from a tire that was different from the rest I had on my car didn't into well lost a very good wheel now I have to replace all four I like a tired as more like a run-flat with some grip Tire you have chosen as the best I've had something like that in the past with a very aggressive tread it was a very good all season Tire they don't make them anymore I tire of choice on my car is Arturo's very strong sidewall good balance Tire not for application you were looking for but I don't get too much will spend either🤔😷👍
Yah I've heard a lot of positive reviews on those tires. The price is a solid to
thanks for a great review!
Both are pretty solid options
Good review! If I ever get serious about the drag strip, I think I'll definitely go with the mickey's.
I think that is a wise choice - the ET Street R will be able to handle your power a little better
I need to hit the lottery. Of course, I would need to play as well to win. LOL
hahaha that makes 2 of us! Would make all of this so much easier
I'm running some Nitto NT 555 G2 on the rear. I went with 275/40-20 because of price. I only paid about $200/tire for these Nittos. I am reasonably happy with them so far. The true test will come once the autumn rains start. Still have the craptastic Badyears on the front.
Next summer, I figure some M/T ET Street SS 305/35r20 part number 3402 for the rear, or just the same tires, but in 305 or 315, the 10.5 wheels can fit either just fine. ($400 on summit, kinda pricey, and only about $75 less per tire than the Toyo r888r tires) I'm not sure on the fronts yet.
Wheels are the Factory Reproductions FR73 (Dodge Demon replicas) in satin black 10.5 for the rear, and I'll be getting the 9.5 ones for the front when finances allow within the next three paychecks.
When all is said and done though, I don't really need drag tires on the 392 Charger. The Barracuda with the little (naturally aspirated) 360 being built and only three speed a727 Torqflite will walk all over the Charger at the track.
That cuda sounds like a beast man - what kind of 1/4 mile time?
@@RTLife I know I'll get pretty deep into the 11's with my simple build. I may make it into the 10's if I'm willing to sacrifice driveability on the street, check out Simpsons Speed Shop, he has a nice build.
Solid Flat Tappet cam Lunati 30200740, Advertised Duration (Int/Exh): 264/272 ;Duration @ .050 (Int/Exh): 235/243 ;Gross Valve Lift (Int/Exh): .525/.546 ;LSA/ICL: 110/106 ;Valve Lash (Int/Exh): .016/.016 ;RPM Range: 2400-6600. With this cam, I could probably get away with a torque converter in the neighborhood of 3,000.
Plans call for some really light weight valve train components, The tool steel (reusable) lifters weigh in at 90 grams, but there are some significantly lighter 78 gram lifters which I am leaning towards. 1.5:1 adjustable ductile iron rockers instead of roller tip rockers. I am looking at reducing the number of moving parts, and the idea of a roller tip rocker losing its bearings is most unappealing.
I have the new internal balanced SCAT crank sitting next to me as I type. (the Chrysler LA 360 was built as an external balance engine ) Forged I-beam connecting rods, rather than H beam (H-beams generally weigh a bit more and as a *general rule* are a tad bit better for strokers like your build). Pistons KB-107 Hypereutectics, going with them over forged because well, the solid cam will make enough noise, don't need the piston slap when the engine's cold on top of that.
Heads are either the TrickFlow 190's, or the ProMAXX Shocker 185's. I have heard good things about both sets of heads over on forabodiesonly.com and the above cam is not pushing the ProMAXX to it's limit, so right now, the TrickFlows are just more than I need, and significantly more expensive.
Intakes are going to be tested, Offenhauser single plane dual quad, Edelbrock dual plane dual quad, and there's the RPM AirGap, which I suspect will probably outperform both of the dual quads, but I do need to stick with some old school stuff for the eye candy. Fuel delivered by a pair of Eddy AVS2 500cfm carbs.
Exhaust is a set of Doug's D453 going through a 2.5 Summit cheapy exhaust and an H-pipe. I have read from various sources that H-pipes will deliver a fraction of a percent more torque, and the X-pipes a fraction more horsepower, the difference is negligible. I've been thinking on electric cutouts, although I doubt that I will get any performance increase. My math (if I got it right) on my scavenging is about as good as I can get, whether it goes out the tailpipes or the cutouts is kinda immaterial
Trans is a standard a727 with a Transgo TF2 shift kit and the rear end is a Strange S-60 with 4.10 and Eaton tru-trac, since I do drive this on the road.
Biggest tires I can fit without cutting the car are 255's. I suppose if I were to give it the classic muscle car stinkbug stance I might be able to fit some 275's. But, that would screw up the geometry.
Rear seats weigh about 80 lbs, they get to stay in the shed.
I can drop about 100 lbs off the front of the car with a fiberglass front clip.
I could personally afford to lose 30 lbs.
And, as long as I stay in the 11's, I don't need a cage.
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Oh yeah I forgot to mention, Sears Point/Infineon/Sonoma Raceway is about 15 minutes from my work. heh
(The nitto nt 555 G2) are they doing good on snow ?
To be honest, I haven't had any MT tires and use Hoosier 28x10.5 (or 10 depending on availability) slicks for the strip and have Atturo AZ800 for the street. Unlike you, I don't do much content on the street with most of mine at the strip. But agree, I don't think you can go wrong with either radial as they are very similar.
I don't have any experience with Hoosier but it seems like a solid option. Many high hp drag racers choose them. I saw your last N/A drag strip day, 12 sec 1/4 mile times - looks like the gearing helped
I'd be curious if you have heard anything on the new Nitto NT 555 R2 tires? The R2 is supposed to compare to the sticky mickeys.
I have heard reviews - many that have them, love them. Would be cool to review NT555r
Im not a drag racer, but i’ve always gone with Toyo for my cars. Great tires, based on what i’ve seen online, Nitto does a good job on both street and drag. So it can be a safe choice to rely on.
I might try the toyo drag tires - they’re $440 a radial but I hear it’s well worth it.
The new NT555RII is better for us in straight line, they directly claim faster than a NT05r...doesn't have the noise of R888R or expensive and they are available in the sizes we use like 305 45 17s...$246
Too much rain where I live for either of them. I prefer the mickies at the track. That 18 inch rim makes a big difference
Agreed - the extra side wall def makes a difference
Great advice I am looking for tires before the RUclipsr Callout 2 in TX
ET Streets on that 1320 & you will be gripping/ripping
So, although you did a comparison nothing about tire size was the same. Do you have any videos where tire size is the exact same across the board? I'd love to watch!
What’s best for rain lol I’m going to use either for daily but not sure which
The Toyo R888R. Check out the reviews & videos. The Mickeys are a solid choice though.
I might have to give those a chance once the Mickeys are done. The reviews are great
I just finished my 2017 Hellcat Challenger build. Ended up with 858 HP and mid 780's for torque at the tire. This is a street car, so Nitto 'R's for me.
Here Kitty Kitty, lol
I bet this comment didn’t age well 🤔
How long did it take you to finally get a set of Mickeys?! lol
I've been 12 2 at drag strip atturo Z 850s cheapest Tire in the world hooks great and drives great and rain
Damn - not bad at all! I’ve heard solid reviews for those Atturos
R/T Life Go with the Toyo R888R tires and never look back, they hook like no others on the street or the strip. R888R is the way to go if you are under 1000hp, proven to be the best sticking tire. There is a video that shows a comparison between the tires you are lokking and Toyo R888R on the supercharged Mustang and Toyo wins all the way, don't make a mistake buying the wrong tire.
I've heard great things - Almost $450 a tire, damn! hahaha. I should give them a shot
@@RTLife if you spinning you ain't winning buddy, these tires have been proven to be the best sticking tires out there, if you want to be the best you have to pick the right upgrades, when it comes to tires, there is no match to R888Rs on the car with less than 1000hp. Let me tell you this, all the 720s running them and killing 1/4 mile times on the street or the strip. Toyo R888R is the way to go if you want to see your car to go from good to great when it comes to putting power down
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When you UGR Lambo is running these tires on their Lambo and R8s with 2000hp to the wheels, you got to realize that this tires has the right compound to handle what you are looking for to do.
They're fine for awd cars, turbo cars where power comes on more gradually and for cars that have good traction management. When I got my hellcat modded, I tried the nto5r, r888r with ZERO success. Got the Mickey's and I'll never look back. I cringe at the money wasted on the nitto and the Toyo. Sold both sets and recouped some money but still..
Very well said! You nailed it💯
Good vid. I have 20 inch SRT alloys for the street and will use the 18 inch alloy just for the strip. Have you been the strip since the bored engine was put in?
I haven't but there is possibly a day coming up. Private track rental
needed some tires for OEM rims 275/35-19. GR supra will be pumping out 600-700hp. you think i can save some cash and try to fit aftermarket tires on 19in and at that power level?
I'm thinking about staggered set up with 315 on mine, but will be waiting at least one month to delivery of my car. Plenty time to think about it.
I went staggered - love it! Let me know how it turns out for you
For true street strip i prefer the new NT555RII tires they make them in around 28 inches from 15 to 20 inch wheels, and priced much better than. R888R which doesn't make a 305 45 17....
So I basically run a hybrid drag pack daily...18x5 with 27.5 tire 17x10 with 28 tire...trans went out but they have rain channels and I got 1.6x out of the first pass....
I've bought 50 pairs of MT SS tires since they come out and about 1 out of every 3 pairs simply never balance properly...these needed almost no weight to balance
$246 for 305 45 17 and qualify for most hard radial classes with active rain channels, first truly New Street strip tire since the SS
most of the store do not have available 4 nitto nt555 or nitto nt05 i guest the tire was discontinued i m looking for good tire now
How are the NITTOS in the rain? Wet roads?
I could imagine these in the rain
On a rt ?
I know you say nt5r is better for street daily, but what about street racing?
if you're only concern is racing with the Mickey ET Street R
Whats the best tire pressure for the Nitto at the Strip?
Bigger side wall always gives a better grip it’s why everyone always goes down to a smaller rim..on the street cornering a bigger sidewall may not give a benefit..
Nice but ........................ how about a sticky tire we can drive in the rain ? Years ago I got caught in the rain with 2 grove cheater slicks. Hydroplaned , headed for the front window of a dry cleaners store. But hit the cement filled 12" pipe protecting the front widow. Soooo strip tires belong on the strip, keep them there ! Getting street tires, real street tires that really hook is the BIG problem !
I would imagine the NT555r would be the best option in your case.
www.nittotire.com/competition-tires/nt555r-dot-compliant-competition-drag-radial-tire/
@@RTLife : Thank you ! I'll look into these. Here in south FL we get about 58" of rain per year so that is an big issue when you get caught in a rain storm. My Scat Pack is dangerous enough as it it is traction wise. New wheels and tires coming soon.If it hadn't been for that cement filled post I would have gone thru that dry cleaners front window !
Well seeing I have the nitto nto5r in 315/35/20s for the street and they suck but for the track I have Mickey street r’s 305/45/17 zero issues for traction street or track just not good in rain lol .
damn you must be making some nice power! The Mickey's are the way to go for drag racing - they provided great traction (at least with my power levels).
R/T Life last time on the Dyno I was 620whp , car has gone 10.86 at 125mph and still on stock untouched 392 , 2021 shooting for a 10.00 pass out the gate
@@widebody_moparmike that trap speed its pretty low for 620 rwhp my c6 put down 512 rwhp and traps around 129 but can hook for shit
@@mattd19902010 A8 with a 3.09 gear and running those 17s made the affective ratio 3.14 , compared to your vette it’s apples to oranges
What about sway I have Mickey Thompson’s and high speeds I could fill the back of the car sway a little bit everyone says the Narrows don’t do that so my question is driving over 60 dose the nittos sway ..?
I have a 19 scat with stock 275 pireliis. I don’t go to the go to the track but would like more traction on the street. No rubbing on the wheel well and maybe keep my 275s on the front. I have the 9.5 inch rims. Any suggestions for better rear tires? Thanks
This insane 🔥🔥🤔👍
Try to lose weight more to get better
def some nice tires
My street r by far is the best. But it won’t last on the street. Most grip hands down
What was your 1/4 mile ET?
At this point super low 12's - maybe with the right D/A & prep high 11's
Nt555r2 are another good option.
yah I've heard really good reviews on them - radial compound but can handle poor weather
Depending on how much HP. I had the Nitto NT05R and loved them but still spun even with 16psi. Just bought the Mackey only because NT05R are super back order. Well see how mickey tires perform
Very dumb question are the Dodge Magnums before they made the hemis welcome
The Magnum was brought back at the same time as the Hemi & had them under the hood.
I'm looking for a winter tires ( nitto motivo 275/40/20 ) I'm wondering if this tires are good for wet and snow
I have to look into them
Thanks
The DR are on a back order, you can't get any, Mickey Thompson drag radials, no where in the country, it sucks, and this the best time to race because of the cool weather.
Everyone keeps talking about the Toyo R88R - they're expensive but the reviews are impressive
Great video, I'm debating on what tire to go with on my Terminator Cobra. I'm at 700 at the wheels and the R888R's are past their usefulness on the street.
Check out the street r
@@simplybuilt_1708 It’s an option
Just wondering which tires for street and autocross ?
Check out this link
blog.tirerack.com/blog/choose-the-best-tires-with-zig/looking-for-the-best-autocross-tires
What do you guys think of R888Rs for drag use if I’m making 560+rwhp in a 7klb truck?
they're expensive but the reviews are awesome
Those are not drag tires they are more corner carving type tires and may not do that good on a 7k lbs truck. They can hook big power pretty good for what they are if you wanna hook from a roll and still have good handling I would suggest just going with a drag radial.
If you love traction for drag racing; stay away from the Nitto NT555 G2 rides lol
Agreed. I learned that after giving them a try
The g2’s are ass! I have them in a 295 40 and I spin on 40 rolls
@@2141mario i could spin 275 20s in those tires on a bolt on 07 gt500 (550 rwhp 4.10 gear) into 3rd gear. I don't mean turning them over i mean spinning 2nd and short shifting 3rd and drifting sideways up the street through 3rd. Now with 305/45/17 et street r it will dead hook 2nd from 40 and when they were newer and it was warm outside they would dead hook 1st and only spin em over a little on a hard 1 to 2 powershift. I have 6500+ street miles on them majority of the tread they had is gone but they still hook pretty damn good. Very solid tires im def getting them again I love being able to do 1st gear pulls and really break peoples necks lol. Going with a larger 315/50 this time
Great video, does the 315 rub on a charger hellcat at all?
it shouldn't
@@RTLife i contacted factory reproductions who makes a 20 X 11" wheel for the rear and they say it holds 315 tire no rubbing.
@@Therealhomeinspectionauthority demon runs 315s 18 inch rim but same width
Whats the tread life like? Curious which would last longer!
I wish less burnouts happened hahaha - probably could have answered that better
You will be lucky to get 5k miles on them
Lol long as you don’t make the mistake of letting discount tire order and mount the wrong NITTO 555R ‘s. You’ll be good. Don’t be like me and get stuck with the 555 R’s G2 (SUMMER TIRES!)
hahaha - man that sucks! The G2's are terrible for straight line
R/T Life o yeah man! 🤦🏻♂️ 🤦🏻♂️ 🤬🤯 after paying $1,100 bucks and leaving. And then looking at the tires couple days later. I realized WTF. Why do my 555 tires look different. Did some google research and found out that they sold me and installed some dam ALL summer season Nittos. I said MFER. Never again never again
Where would Toyo’s compare?
I have them - going to test them out soon
my guess is they're similar to NT05r but we will see.
Do you use a diff brace?
No not yet - will grab one once my RT has a forced air setup in place
@@RTLife Look at the Per4mance DIRS setup. I use that one and its very well made.
What times are you running now? I have been away a good while dealing with the cancer
Likely 11.8 to 12.2 range at this point
Cool
Street SS are more for the street than ET street r
I heard the r888 are pretty dam good. Then mickey Thompson
yah I've heard the Toyo Proxes are a solid option
Yeah they great for mid to high whp
@@vondrelleraven4380 they do good at hooking rolls and handling but they are NOT drag tires they are more for corners and have stiffer sidewalls. Idk why everyone groups them in with mickeys when talking tires. Like I said they can hook some power decent on rolls and do good at handling but they are not an ideal tire for drag racing.
MT's will always be better. Nitto is only a name people know because they're popular for no good reason. They do not compare to MT's, not even close.
Is a 11 or 12 second car even worth going to the track for? I would be embarrassed at anything 10 or higher. It would be like what's the point, I would be like the slowest car there.
not05 are the most overrated tire ive seen, not that sticky and last about 5k miles. not worth it
The nto5r is trash and even more on a stick shift car