James Baldwin on Education

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  • Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
  • Baldwin gives comments on the education system, public education, education as it pertains to Black children, and education within racist institutions.

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  • @tom11zz884
    @tom11zz884 12 лет назад +144

    James Baldwin was brilliant...boy, we could use him today in this crazy world.

    • @7102cc
      @7102cc 4 года назад +5

      tom11zz884 we have him today. Our leaders and teachers live on

    • @ZartanXL
      @ZartanXL 3 года назад

      Yeah, he wouldn't last long. They are way over free thinking. He would have had to join something and would be working against us.

    • @george4281
      @george4281 3 года назад

      @@7102cc Who is there? All I know in this modern society are the celebrities elected as spokemen of justice and misdeeds. Celebrities have taken the place of the intellectuals. The world has gotten simpler, more pocketable and dumber. I don't know who is there that genuinely speaks a truth or is educated to convey good points to the mass

    • @juelzsantanasbandana5938
      @juelzsantanasbandana5938 3 года назад +1

      @@ZartanXL damn foo. leave the meth alone.

    • @dirtandsilkk
      @dirtandsilkk 2 года назад +1

      Very true. But our people would focus more on his sexuality then anything

  • @adamfirst4550
    @adamfirst4550 4 года назад +86

    I have so much respect for this Great man

  • @sg639
    @sg639 4 года назад +33

    "Pick up the tools with your own intention."
    Amazing intuition.

  • @YahsLoveisEnough
    @YahsLoveisEnough 9 лет назад +195

    I'm glad James spoke to the dual consciousness Blacks in academia and in life in general have to balance. He called it schizophrenia. Him suggesting that the focus of Black intellectuals should be on gathering the tools necessary to educate themselves, because every American school is racist is the best advice Black people can learn from. We will never get an education about ourselves from the traditional education system. That is a task we must set fourth to do for ourselves. We must also not marginalize our history and it's importance when faced with criticism from Blacks and other forms of western criticism.

    • @wizwhit3795
      @wizwhit3795 6 лет назад

      Well some. The will of Black people who strive for higher learning must always be set on the highest bar in fear of societal persecution once a certain level of consciousness is obtained.

    • @laurenpresley8480
      @laurenpresley8480 4 года назад +6

      Individual education this is includes everyone ....we should NEVER just rely on leaning on one system especially provided and funded by the big G.

    • @ZartanXL
      @ZartanXL 3 года назад

      This is very true but blacks don't trust each other enough to collaborate. It would take one powerful man to make that move. With the boule, it's not likely to happen. Look what BET gave us. We have the soles of Jordans being made in prison and I'm to believe that its owned by a white man of the name Michael Jordan. Everything we start has been infiltrated one way or another. Too many sell outs.

  • @MultiSmartass1
    @MultiSmartass1 4 года назад +90

    "Cities in the hands of financiers,pirates"
    True then, true now

    • @arricammarques1955
      @arricammarques1955 4 года назад +8

      Its a plutocracy. The laws made for and by the rich.

    • @codyjones1098
      @codyjones1098 4 года назад +7

      Amen my brother!! The owners pit me against you and your neighbor against the other.

  • @youwhohear
    @youwhohear  13 лет назад +26

    Thanks for watching! i cut out this selection, along with another, from a longer Q&A with Baldwin at UC Berkeley in 1974. The full thing can be found on youtube in two parts, but i thought a few of these clips so important, prescient and relevant that i wanted them to be more accessible.

  • @ShanettaGrant
    @ShanettaGrant 4 года назад +51

    Shame this is still the truth for today's times. Such a profound man with a worth of knowledge, every time he speaks.

  • @nykballaz
    @nykballaz 7 лет назад +33

    Cornel west spoke on this in his book Race Matters, this nihilistic threat black peoples face due to horrific subjugation brought on by corporate interest turning people into objects of profit and consumption

  • @june19th85
    @june19th85 4 года назад +32

    Did anyone laugh? When he said that 24hrs a day line lol? I felt that. You know what I'm talking about.

  • @ajl2232
    @ajl2232 4 года назад +17

    I love this man. Deep respect for him. He is so intellectual, honest and charming.

  • @susiedean7432
    @susiedean7432 10 лет назад +32

    So much truth in this even today.

  • @stacysamms1216
    @stacysamms1216 5 лет назад +8

    calm cool collected and brilliantly intelligent. educate yourself outside of the school system

    • @ds5651
      @ds5651 3 года назад +1

      Become a educator !!!!

  • @Carmen-qx8ib
    @Carmen-qx8ib Год назад +1

    "Added to the list of Other Activist Blacks, he's Articulate, Intelligent & Real"!!! Blessings to the Baldwin Family 🧓🏿🙏🏾🧓🏽💖💋!!!

  • @lastcall4111
    @lastcall4111 5 лет назад +12

    OMG KING JAMES HAS SPOKEN...RIP TO A GREAT MAN

  • @katherandefy
    @katherandefy 11 лет назад +11

    That is prescient and what he said about schizophrenia, how true. It's crazy difficult.

  • @banzobeans
    @banzobeans 4 года назад +17

    1:27 „the least important part of the industry is the child“

  • @theotherjared9824
    @theotherjared9824 2 года назад +6

    His point about changing the education system costing more money for less profit rings true to this day. In a world where anyone can learn whatever they want whenever they want with the internet, the fact that schools are still designed around the industrial revolution where everyone worked at a factory is asinine. Children learning from home during the pandemic should be the wake up call to change something, but I doubt anything will happen for at least another 20 years.

  • @YoungDen
    @YoungDen 6 лет назад +4

    Wish it were a bit longer

  • @crystaldragonwoman
    @crystaldragonwoman 11 лет назад +7

    TRULY AN AMAZING BEING

  • @bettysmith5477
    @bettysmith5477 7 лет назад +1

    Thanks Tommy Lee! for this informative information!

  • @jamesponzo502
    @jamesponzo502 3 года назад +2

    Mr. Baldwin is still relevant and we need to make sure we go back and consider what he said. Anyone know what school they were at and year this was recorded?

  • @yerk3
    @yerk3 12 лет назад +1

    Where did I say that I, personally, would single-handedly fix the public education system in this country. I am just one citizen, change takes the action of millions, and takes many years to accomplish. There are many factors at play here, but my argument stands that getting rid of the system completely is not a viable solution.

  • @jewelminor5526
    @jewelminor5526 Год назад

    Wonderful and Truthful Insight !!!

  • @sapaspeech2412
    @sapaspeech2412 4 года назад

    So clever. Truth. And witty!

  • @grobby2
    @grobby2 12 лет назад

    Thanks for posting

  • @1awareness
    @1awareness 13 лет назад +1

    If only we had more people like James; willing to be the intermediate in the mist of darkness and conflicts within social justice system. His words open hearts, raises hope for a chance for possible solutions within in clear passionate discernment; He inspires progress vs indifference and ego centralism. "James" could bring light to any conflict.
    (If their was a roster for that job. I would t love to make that list!)
    shem

    • @topramennoodle21
      @topramennoodle21 4 года назад

      If you can see it you can be it! That being said Mister Baldwin was a stellar human being! ☀️💜🌻

  • @trudyrose3385
    @trudyrose3385 3 года назад +2

    He was a genius

  • @jensyveras8798
    @jensyveras8798 3 года назад +1

    Does anyone know about the three year experiment he mentioned ?

  • @Pablosky1968
    @Pablosky1968 Год назад

    Great Soul ❤

  • @zabrinatheteacher
    @zabrinatheteacher Год назад

    💖💖

  • @rednucleusbandchapelhillnc3064
    @rednucleusbandchapelhillnc3064 6 лет назад +1

    Would someone please provide the details of this clip...where, when, etc. THANK YOU.

    • @royjackson872
      @royjackson872 4 года назад

      All that I know is, that, it was at UC Berkeley, I think it was in 1964.

  • @AHPMB
    @AHPMB 4 года назад +1

    Wow, are we sure this speech wasn't given last week?

  • @MrLeonightis
    @MrLeonightis 3 года назад +1

    These are the type of men who should be making policy in America , I would bet money that President Trump or Biden for that matter would not be able to answer basic math questions ,or give a dissertation on Judicial law.

  • @kam3410
    @kam3410 Год назад

    Does anyone know what he is referring to at time stamp 2:00 when discussing self education of blacks.

  • @desire2HOPE1
    @desire2HOPE1 3 года назад

    When was this? I'm trying to find information to be able to cite it properly.

  • @hellokitty524
    @hellokitty524 4 года назад

    Black America was always quite successful at educating themselves, and the school board time and again would destroy that.

  • @leoniehaimson
    @leoniehaimson 13 лет назад

    great video; can you tell us the source and/or the year? thanks!

  • @patrickbernardin2546
    @patrickbernardin2546 Год назад

    What year was this?

  • @banzobeans
    @banzobeans 4 года назад

    What year was this recorded? Where? Who did the introduction?

  • @codyjones1098
    @codyjones1098 4 года назад

    Here we are 2020! Nothing not a god dam thing has changed. I am sick of this crap.

  • @benjaminfishkin4886
    @benjaminfishkin4886 4 года назад

    Can anyone tell me the date and location of this debate?

  • @Onkarr
    @Onkarr 3 года назад

    💥

  • @bomboclat_man
    @bomboclat_man 2 года назад

    still true to this day, especially in NYC...always will be, unfortunately

  • @MusicalAdrian
    @MusicalAdrian 11 лет назад +1

    Was this today?

  • @lamontebritt2210
    @lamontebritt2210 5 лет назад +1

    It's not the tool. It's the tool user.

  • @yerk3
    @yerk3 12 лет назад +4

    In the meantime, I would like you to point out one example, one country, just one, that removed their public education system and became a leader in education. Just one example will do. So far, the only country in the world to completely dismantle their public education system has been Cambodia under Pol Pot.

  • @alexanderf.6396
    @alexanderf.6396 2 года назад

    What about Alec?

  • @julianwoodcock4309
    @julianwoodcock4309 2 года назад

    Some of his comments such as the admiration of illiteracy are commonplace now. He'd already detected that then. Wow, was he quick off the mark!

  • @CanadaYo
    @CanadaYo 4 года назад

    This was taking in 1964 and nothing much has changed 2020 ....its time to change America 🇺🇸 you can get a University education in Canada 🇨🇦...its much cheaper and better quality.

  • @yerk3
    @yerk3 12 лет назад +1

    A better solution would be to make the school systems work, like in every other major industrialized country in the world. We are last in education, not because we have public education, the countries that are mopping the floor with us have public education, they have more public education than us, we are last because we place education last on our list of priorities.

  • @lamontmelrose7640
    @lamontmelrose7640 2 года назад

    This was the beginning of the end of Capitalism...I remember this meeting...we've gone from bad to worse...once people gained a conscience and reached for change, 1979 turned to 1980 and we woke up to crack that lasted until 1991...that was 30 years ago...look at us today > for profit, but not for mankind....

    • @supreme1572
      @supreme1572 Год назад

      Yup. It's called late stage capitalism.

  • @lloydwilliams523
    @lloydwilliams523 3 года назад

    It is a crying shame that we as black think we have come so far but watch men like Baldwin speak we have come no where.

  • @civilizeddiva
    @civilizeddiva Год назад +1

    2:39-2:46: AKA some, not all, rap videos further promoting African Americans as “dangerous” or “hyper-sexual”. Those are funded and promoted. Our school athletes are supported so long as they can contribute to a team and play. Can they own a national football team?

  • @SueLyons1
    @SueLyons1 2 года назад

    01:09 'our children, therefore, are victims of the principles on which the country is run' 👍 ... 'it is run for profit; to make money and education is a billion dollar industry and the least important part of it is the child' 😈 01:33
    03:28 'together an education under those circumstances is a tremendous act of the will' 👍
    03:48 'what you have to do is pick up the tools with your own intention' 👍 👏 👏 👏

  • @Michael-pl9lw
    @Michael-pl9lw 4 года назад

    What did he mean by 'schizophrenia'?

    • @george4281
      @george4281 3 года назад

      I think he meant that by going through the education system and enduring the many challenges of the journey both as a child of any race but more so children of colour, you risk going insane and having mental problems when in America illiteracy is praised to such a heavy degree.

  • @spooksnscreamswithsomerand70
    @spooksnscreamswithsomerand70 Год назад

    beetlejuice

  • @yerk3
    @yerk3 12 лет назад

    That's not an option for most people. You have a situation where both parents have full time jobs, you can't afford a one-income-per-household paradigm anymore, because many of the manufacturing jobs have been outsourced and people accept whatever wage they can get. Plus there are a lot of single parent households. Also, after a certain level, parents no longer have the resources necessary to teach their kids enough to be competitive in the modern world.

  • @desmondwilliams4068
    @desmondwilliams4068 3 года назад

    That Ronald Reagan quote aged really well...

  • @troyshealthtips35
    @troyshealthtips35 2 года назад

    Consider this a entry point to a pointless debated of fate..love the presentation but that in of itrself IS AN appeal
    To non-consentu/all\\\ reAllity that exists for 3 years on average × 10/^2

  • @yerk3
    @yerk3 12 лет назад

    There are flaws in a public system, of course, but there are flaws in every system. The fact that you choose not to acknowledge is that it is a hell of a lot better than nothing at all, and that if you look at the rest of the world, countries with better-funded public education systems excel academically over those that under-fund education.

    • @peaceshaheed3173
      @peaceshaheed3173 6 лет назад

      Alan Horton It was all design for a purpose not only was I fucked over you was to white people have it no better than anybody all lies 😎

  • @yerk3
    @yerk3 12 лет назад +1

    My view is no more "negative" than reality. Sometimes reality can be pretty negative though. It's better than viewing the situation through rose tinted glasses. You can't improve things unless you recognize the extent of the problem. I am a little disappointed that you couldn't argue with my points and had to resort to empty, childish ad-hominems.

  • @damagedone56
    @damagedone56 12 лет назад

    all of this still pertains in today's world no matter what color u are

  • @yerk3
    @yerk3 12 лет назад

    How many parents have the money to hire a private tutor? That's a lot of money. The same goes for the school books. Those can be insanely expensive. Also, most parents don't have the level of education themselves to teach their kids past a certain level. That's one of the problems that exist in inner city schools: the parents lack the education themselves. The schools need to be teaching kids things their parents are unable to teach them, that's the original purpose of public schools.

  • @yerk3
    @yerk3 12 лет назад

    What's with the two little "less than" signs that you always post after your non-sequiturs?

  • @brokecreole
    @brokecreole 12 лет назад

    His comment is 100% true. But really no one cares

  • @yerk3
    @yerk3 12 лет назад

    Prejudice? Where is the prejudice in my posts? I'm talking about reality, and the circumstances a lot of people have to deal with that make your home schooling solution unfeasible as a solution.

  • @yerk3
    @yerk3 12 лет назад

    It has nothing to do with "faith," it has everything to do with being realistic. How is a parent who dropped out of high school going to teach their kid advanced calculus?

  • @yerk3
    @yerk3 12 лет назад

    It is about saving a few cents, or at least the promise of such by conservative politicians. The Republican party has made a practice of promising to lower taxes by taking the axe to programs like public education, it is viewed as expendable, and not important, because after all, Abraham Lincoln didn't need any public school, just a law book, a coal oil lamp and a little spare time between splitting logs.

  • @yerk3
    @yerk3 12 лет назад

    Library books are chosen by the individual library, not by some shadowy government organization. My mom works at a library, she knows how thing are done there, they order new books on the basis of public demand, not the dictates of some sinister official in a black suit and shades. That has its own problems, but you can't call it "censorship" and look like someone who doesn't wear a tin foil hat.

  • @yerk3
    @yerk3 12 лет назад

    What have I said anything "hateful" about any non-Western nation? The only "non-Western nation" I mentioned was China, and as I recall, I didn't say anything "hateful" about China. I gave a realistic assessment of the class disparities during the Qing Dynasty, the memories of which are one of the reasons why the modern Chinese nation places a priority on education.

  • @yerk3
    @yerk3 12 лет назад +3

    I have facts. You have airheaded theories with no evidence to back them up. All you have is flaws in the American school system due to under-funding, but nothing to back up your theory that getting rid of it entirely and telling inner-city parents who are having a hard enough time making ends meet somehow hire a private tutor as if that was in any way economically feasible. Where do you propose they get the money to hire these tutors?

  • @yerk3
    @yerk3 12 лет назад

    How am I "talking ill" of anyone? How am I "looking down on" anyone? I was describing one of the reasons why China has a better public education system than ours. I think you completely misinterpreted my post. I have never "talked negative" of any race or nationality. I think you need to re-read my post. I was talking about how China is more honest about how things were before they had public education.

  • @yerk3
    @yerk3 12 лет назад

    I'm going by the data which is available. Other countries are miles ahead of us in education because they actually fund their public education, and our education standards are at rock bottom because we have de-funded ours. Accusing your opposition of being brainwashed or part of a conspiracy is not an argument, it is a pathetic cop-out.

  • @yerk3
    @yerk3 12 лет назад +1

    You seem to have this image of a world where parents are all educated themselves and are therefore able to educate their children to the same level, and have the free time to do so. In reality, you have parents who were themselves failed by a substandard and under-funded education system, some of whom dropped out of school, who are too busy putting food on their families' tables to spend multiple hours a day teaching their kids arithmetic that they themselves never learned.

  • @yerk3
    @yerk3 12 лет назад +4

    Your pie-eyed libertarian solution fails to take into account the fact that there are children in this country for whom school lunch is the only full meal they get, because their parents are simply too poor. Many don't have jobs, not because they don't want to work, but because the jobs are simply not there, they've been outsourced to China. Of the jobs that do exist here, many don't pay a living wage. How is someone who is too destitute to keep food on the table going to hire a private tutor?

  • @yerk3
    @yerk3 12 лет назад

    You have accused me of being brainwashed by mainstream media and "censored" library books. If that's not a conspiracy theory, what is? I have argued using logic, and you have resorted to petty insults, ad-hominems and insinuations. You accusing me of being a troll is particularly rich, seeing as you're the one who is using troll tactics here. Are you going to address the points I've made any time soon or are you just going to use more ad-hominems?

  • @yerk3
    @yerk3 12 лет назад

    I have used logic and examples, you have chosen to ignore this because it doesn't fit with your narrow worldview. Public systems ARE good, as every industrialized First World nation can attest. Look at the nations that are leading the world in education, they have public systems, they have very good, well-funded (yes, by the government!) well-maintained public systems that give every child in their country a fair chance at a successful life.

  • @yerk3
    @yerk3 12 лет назад

    And you are saying what your media is saying. Where do you get off with this self-righteous belief that your own media and culture are any less biased than mine? You accuse me of stereotyping while yourself subjecting me to a stereotype.

  • @yerk3
    @yerk3 12 лет назад

    The only reason that our system is failing is that it is under-funded and poorly maintained. It is under-funded because mostly Republican politicians have made a career out of imposing budget cuts so that they can promise lower taxes and get re-elected. Have you lived in this country? Have you paid attention to what is going on here? You are speaking from a position of great remove, about a subject about which you seem to be wholly unkowledgeable.

  • @yerk3
    @yerk3 12 лет назад

    What do you even know about this issue? You live in the Netherlands, a country whose history, infrastructure and public education system are as different from ours as night and day. What do you know of our system? Why are you talking about abandoning public education when you live in a country that is leading the U.S. in education precisely because your country actually finances its public education? Do you actually know what you're talking about?

  • @yerk3
    @yerk3 12 лет назад

    Yes you have. You lost the argument. You made a proposition that is unfeasible, then answered any criticism of it with straw men and ad-hominems. The one example you brought up, China, actually goes against your argument because they are leading us in education and put more money into public education than we do. You have not stopped, or else you would currently be posting meaningless non-sequiturs after the argument has been lost and won.

  • @yerk3
    @yerk3 12 лет назад

    Again, you have no argument. I'm not doing anything but addressing the flaws in your argument. If we're going in circles, it's because you're leading us that way. You have lost. If you really don't have anything else, then do yourself a favor and quit, for the sake of your own dignity.

  • @yerk3
    @yerk3 12 лет назад

    You're the only one posting nonsense here. You really have no reason to be here. You lost the argument days ago, and are just spinning your wheels at this point.

  • @yerk3
    @yerk3 12 лет назад

    When confronted with these facts, your response, again and again, has been to make straw-man arguments and non-sequiturs about "running in circles." You're the one who is running around in circles, going back to your glib, whimsically naive libertarian solution.

  • @Damnyouyoutub
    @Damnyouyoutub 2 года назад

    He's talking about black people educated themselves.
    Nowadays People would say hes blaming the victim
    Malcolm X talked about Brown people having their own schools. Nowadays people would say hes blaming the victim .
    Harriet Tubman took action to free herself and others.
    Nowadays people would say slavery is white people problem and its their responsibility to fix it
    SMH

  • @jesushateswood
    @jesushateswood 12 лет назад

    It's hard to talk about education where people take seriously such a creature as Kim Kardashian or ANY reality tv personality or series, sports celeb, tv/movie actor, FOX news personality,.....