Taking Arcimoto FUV to In-N-Out Burger As One Does in SoCal
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While fun, I think ~$25k for this and not eligible for car EV incentives is pretty nuts as a value proposition, but what do you guys think? Would you buy one?
Aren't they currently selling for $18k, and targeting ~$12k base ($15k asp)? I think they'll do a lot better if they can hit that lower price range. Great "+1" city vehicle
@@Pluberus the one I drove was about $25k. Under $15k may have a market
@@brandenflasch Gotcha, makes sense!
When they get up to mass production they are targeting a $12,000 base price. Also, there are EV incentives/rebates depending on what state you. live in. I'll be putting in my Pre-Order in 2022. Who needs a large SUV to get a cup of coffee or a couple bags of groceries?
They can target whatever they want - I’ll believe it when it happens. With EVs, there’s not as much downside to a larger vehicle. There are only motorcycle incentives which are very small.
It’s a shame someone reviewed an Arcimoto who’s not open minded to a new kind of transportation and not comfortable with driving one.
Everyone else said it is a very stable vehicle and compared it with a motorcycle or a trike, not to an enclosed car. It’s open air, put a jacket on!!!
Wish you knew a little about Arcimoto so you could have added that they are now building a plant to start mass production and a price drop will follow.
Arcimoto is a fine little US company that is helping to change the big problem of a warming world. It’s great for running errands, short work commutes, golf cart communities, local business deliveries, or as rentals for cruising holiday resorts. Here’s to small carbon footprints!!!!
I would take an electric smart car or fiat 500e over this 100% of the time
@@brandenflasch You are clueless of the market value and many uses of this vehicle world wide..... Yes they will have plants all over the world.
In 3 yrs you'll be driving a car and I'll be laughing all the way to the bank and in 6 yrs I'll be a millionaire. Stock just has to hit $200.
Yet another shareholder cult… just like Tesla and Lucid.
@@brandenflasch Not a cult…. Just people making themselves millionaires. I own a little of Tesla but not Lucid. You do know Tesla was well over $3000 and split 4 for 1 and back up over $1000. When they get the plants in Germany and Texas up and running they will take market share from car companies world wide. No doubt put some out of business. This is just the beginning for Tesla.
That’s the difference…. You think of it as a cult, I think of it as an investment.
Well said. If I had a garage, I’d buy one as my second vehicle to lessen my carbon footprint.
In the ATV world they don't make 1 wheel in the front 2 in the back anymore. Arcimoto is the reverse and more stable.
That is a good point
The FUV is street legal. ATVs and Golf Carts are not. I own a FUV and would never take it on a rough dirt road as the center wheel will be riding the rough middle.
I rode it in San Diego a couple of months ago and got it up too 82 mph!!
Best experience ever!
I rented one in San Diego but it was capped at 56 mph and forbidden from the freeway. My wife had difficulty getting over the battery pack in the back seat. I gave up waiting for the FUV to be available and bought an off-lease Kia Soul EV in 2019 for $12,000 instead.
82mph is this contraption is a death wish. This thing is amateur hour at best. Better off getting a real 3 wheeled trike like a can am.
I.m not sure that you guys are insightful enough or articulate enough to do vehicle reviews.
What makes you say that? Also, this isn’t a review - I’m simply sharing my thoughts and first impressions.
Took the words right out of my mouth. So cringy.
There are some inconsistencies and incorrect statements. Although the version he drove was $25k, it starts at $17,900 without trunk or doors or highly specialized paint. The paint alone on that one is around $3000 alone. You can’t go fast off the throttle because idiots would go through tires (and likely gearbox) quickly, and that wouldn’t be environmentally friendly - which is why it exists. A 4 point harness would be terrible. All the ones I’ve seen have no “give” if you need to lean forward to enter in your pin on the dash or look behind you for certain turns. The regen is modulated. The harder you pull the trigger with your finger, the more retard on the motors. There are 5 buttons that will be utilized in the future but there are 7 that are in use (front seat heater, rear, handle bar grip heater, defrost, windshield wiper, parking brake, wiper fluid). The first few times you drive it you don’t want to go fast. But it doesn’t take long before you test out 80. The motor wine is audible because it isn’t really covered and near your feet. I could go on …
It’s still feels like it’s falling apart and for $17k+, that shouldn’t be the case. It’s overpriced and impractical.
@@brandenflasch I think you need to rethink what is “practical”. And that’s the whole point of the Arcimoto. Rethinking what is actually NEEDED. For a lot of city travel, cars are not needed. We have to get out of the automotive culture brainwashing and consider mobility for a wide variety of situations.
@@loriallen67 how are you supposed to carry more than a bag of groceries?
@@brandenflasch watch Kyle’s road trip on the Arcimoto. Two large backpacks and some other things fit there. It can haul Three bags of groceries easy. And for many people like myself who are empty nest or just no kids, taking a car isn’t always necessary. For most of my errands I am alone and I have my purse and maybe one or two other items. Three bags of groceries is a typical haul. The ONLY time this doesn’t work is cold weather. Not cool weather in fall and spring, but actual winter which I have in the Midwest. But for three seasons, this works fine for around town.
Americans have been brainwashed to buy the biggest vehicle possible for that one weekend a year when you might need to haul the visiting family around or you need to tow that boat that hasn’t been purchased yet. We’ve been led to believe that we should buy for the “what if” rather than the “what is.”
If you watch Arcimoto’s videos, you’ll see that their whole idea is to “right size” transportation. The point is to use the minimum necessary rather than the maximum possible because using the maximum when it isn’t needed is wasteful and not sustainable.
@@loriallen67 The Electra Meccanica Solo can be driven in the winter, and IMO would be the better option of the 2.
In my lifetime I have put 350k miles on a BMW K75 motorcycle. The time has come when for me three wheels are better than two. I loved my BMW and I love the FUV.
I’d love to know the dislike to like ratio of this video. I’m sure it’s pretty high.
Because I didn’t like it?
@@brandenflasch mostly because you were so smart ass and determined to compare it to a car…apparently a race car
What an entrance to In and Out! You guys were like movie stars! not.
Yes at this time since everything prices is high about 20 to 25k is pretty expensive for this type of vehicle. But we also got to remember this is their first generation product. Their second generation and third generations are going to be so much better and it's going to be closer to I think 15-17K once they get production correct and everything else corrected. Kind of how the Tesla Model S was back in 2012 2013. There's bugs that they have to figure out.
The $25K Signature series is over. They have been selling an $18K base price version which I bought and next year a simplified lighter better FUV platform will be cranked out by the thousands in their new factory. With inflation, a price that does not rise is actually a price drop but they can produce a cheaper model that may not hit the $12K price goal but come close.
Tesla is never a valid comarison. It is an over powered excessively heavy energy wasting blunder of a status symbol. Four FUVs can be made from the materials in one Tesla - now you understand what right sizing means.
I went without a car for 7 years to be able to pay cash for the FUV. I drove the car-bike trike as shown in my avatar. It weighs just 160 pounds and charges with its solar panel roof and has a shifting pedaling transmission. We all need exercise that no car offers. I still use my car-bike but man the FUV is fun and exciting to drive while being guilt free compared to burning gas.
I’m sorry to hear you missed out on driving for 7 years.
@@brandenflasch I didn't miss out you jerk. I was doing my duty as a planetary citizen to not indulge in damaging consumption. Before I wised up to the science I was like everybody else - stealing more than my fair share of resources from future generations. Now I know it is wrong to eat beef, fly, reproduce or burn gasoline needlessly. The next generation can't blame me, they have to blame all the selfish people who carried on after they got the news about what we were doing to the biome. You have made your stance clear and it is now a matter of record stored on servers as evidence for future reference.
Great review! I've been following Arcimoto since '14 and have watched just about every ride review I could find. Almost everyone else said they loved it, that it felt like a motorcycle. However, you're the first that I have seen give a real-life review. The FUV looks fun, but it's not perfect. The noises and the handling stood out the most. I agree that it's not worth $24k. A used i3 or Leaf would make more sense to me. Don't worry about the haters out there. Keep up the good work.
Thank you - I’m glad you appreciate my more objective take rather than just saying it’s fun (which it is).
This video is misrepresenting the vehicle. It has been selling for 18K all of 2021. A used Leaf weighs twice as much, needs twice as much power to drive and is barely sustainable. Insurance is far more for EV cars.
@@popeyegordon no.
@@brandenflasch Not a refutation. My comment still stands unchallenged. I'm an owner too.
@@popeyegordon the one I drove is $25,420 configured on Arcimoto’s website. This is a fact, not an opinion.
Planning to buy one.
What for?
@@brandenflasch because it's awesome
If I had a garage to put it in, I’d buy it for a town car.
It looks like a ton of fun. I’ve watching them for a few months. But I appreciate how you described the ride/drive. I used to have a three wheeler as a kid (yep, survived) and you described this very similarly.
I love your channel. You two seem to be having so much fun. Watching this made me smile .
@@loriallen67 I have just a car port for mine. There is a very nice fitting pattern for covers made by California Car Cover. They are good enough and easy enough to install that they could be used daily as you park next to an apartment.
@@popeyegordon I live in an urban area-I have off street parking but no room for a garage or car port. I have an electric car and have a 240 outlet on my house, but there’s just room for the car.
Kyle!! Still new to the EV world, but love your channel and all the Out of Spec stuff. Such fun.
Would have been nice to see a picture of what the Arcimoto FUV looks like.
That’s what the thumbnail is
Here are more photos: instagram.com/p/CXFYrhSFWrN/?
Here’s one without doors: instagram.com/p/CXJrDdVOJwt/?
@@brandenflasch - Thanks for the picture, looks like a pretty cool machine. I never saw the thumbnail, I just clicked on the notification of a new video. When I get new video notification my eyes look left to see what RUclips channel it is and did not realize until now that there is a thumbnail picture on the right!
@@EVTodd Arcimoto is building a plant for mass production and a much lower price will follow. There are a lot of videos on RUclips about them.
I like the products ( there is more than this one vehicle) and the CEO. I own a lot of stock because I think they have a future.
Check them out!!!
The trikes that got the bad reputation in the atv world are 1 wheel in the front type . The 2 wheel ones are just as stable as a car depending on the weight distribution. A giant battery right on top of the rear wheel is best , or a seat that slides way back with the bars extended too . For 1 person mode
If you’ve never ridden a motorcycle with a sidecar or at least an ATV, you would not appreciate the technology Arcimoto is giving.
I've done hundreds of miles on ATVs.
@@brandenflasch that’s cool, but can drive those ATVs to work wearing a suit with a kid passenger to drop off to school?
@@dempoy I wouldn’t want to.
You guys seemed like your minds were made up before you even left the parking lot, that it was a "ridiculous vehicle". Not very open minded if you ask me. This could be and should be the future of transportation.
What makes this the future of transportation?
@@brandenflasch If you have to ask you have no business posting videos about this.
Grow some balls, man
Most annoying review I have ever endured. Ridiculous! Ridiculous! Ridiculous! I live in San Diego and I’m going to rent one of these soon. I have been a motorcycle rider for most of my life and I own an electric car. Should be a hoot.
That thing’s got the price tag of a Ducati with the sex appeal of a Segway.
A compliment - Segways are extremely sexy. The $18K price is in 2022 when the average cost of a new car is $46,000. And no cost for gas or oil changes. Insurance is at the very low motorcycle rate, that alone saves me $800/yr
Love seeing Pas!
The 'SoyBoy' Test Pilot, is 'Ridiculous' _ ☝😆
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It's obvious to tell when someone has never driven a motorcycle before. Simple motorcycle controls I've been using since I was 8.
I don’t really get the point of this…is it for people who are afraid of getting on a scooter? I’d rather pay 4K for a Honda PCX with built in storage and far more maneuverability, plus the ability to split through traffic during rush hour (I can’t stress that bit enough) but that’s just me. I daily a motorcycle and rarely even drive my car so I’m also a bit biased towards the two-wheeled life.
Agreed. Has all of the downsides of a motorcycle (exterior exposure and lower safety - probably a bit better) and none of the positives (parking almost wherever, lane splitting)
80 mph street legal golf cart utilizing specific language in the motorcycle laws to get approved to be on the roads. If golf carts were legal on the roads, i think we would all be using them to do inter-city travel to the grocery store, coffee, gym type of travels. But more importantly used by business for Uber Eat type of last mile distribution.
@@dylanpeterson6449 Absolutely nothing in common with a golf cart. Trolls who want to anger people and distupt threads mention golf carts even though they know that is completely false. The FUV has as much in common with fighter jets as it does with golf carts. Fighter jet seating and harness. Fighter jet turbine noise from the twin motors. Fighter jet windshield and overhead. But this fighter jet is legal on the roads and safer than any motorcycle ever made. Jackass.
@@popeyegordon very well said, Popeye. I've just placed an order for a FUV. Can't wait. I'm also on the FB group. I'm also a pilot so what you said made me even more excited :D
@@minhtrietle Yea you will love it. I was in prime form with that guy, had to laugh when I read it again 2 months later!
Everywhere I look I see Kyle! 😂
That long of a line for In-and-Out Burger?
Yes
@@brandenflasch That ride looked so uncomfortable!
do you need a license to drvie a Arcimoto electric scooter
Right Now I Am Looking 4 A three-wheel electric scooter that doesn't need a driver license my friends
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What the hell in n out was selling or giving away 🤔😂
Just a normal day for them
We're you in San Bernardino?
Pasadena
Thanks for being honest way way to much money
While driving 60 mph, Branden says "this thing feels like it could roll at any moment if I turn the bars too much. There's a reason three-wheelers essentially became outlawed in the ATV world." Weren't those ATV's with the single wheel in the front? The Arcimoto has the single wheel in the back. I wonder if there's any difference? Also, weren't the three-wheel ATV's used for off-roading? Arcimoto is not designed for off-roading so doesn't seem to be a good comparison. Also, and probably most importantly, wouldn't [edit: typo would > wouldn't] any vehicle whether three or four wheels flip over if you turned hard enough while going 60mph? I appreciate the review because I think it's good to get all opinions and critiques. However, I could not let this statement go unchecked because it is speaking to the safety of the FUV. Yes, you can have an opinion about your own sense of safety or comfortability while driving the FUV. Branden's own sense of safety (or lack of safety) is completely valid, but I hope people will not think the FUV will flip over while driving it simply because of Branden's feeling about it.
I just read through some of the comments (after posting mine) and see at least one person already pointed out the difference between three-wheel ATV's single wheel in front vs Arcimoto single wheel in the back.
too much hasty judgements and nervousness. at least try to keep an open mind when doing a first impressions vid.
I had an open mind. The vehicle is poorly built.
You both are so dramatic. My goodness!!! Just enjoy yourselves!!
We did enjoy it
@@brandenflasch Arcimoto owners don't enjoy your snarky comments.
Ok?
Knew the passenger was going to freeze. Those things definitely need doors.
No. We have heated seats and grips and protection from the full wind chill. In all cases and in 100% of all weather the FUV is more protective than any motorcycle ever made. Doors add no safety, they are just dead weight and a security blanket for car drivers who never owned a motorcycle.
@@popeyegordon
Lol.
@@popeyegordon
You're dead weight trying to pose as this couple.
@@b_uppy Nothing in my reply implied I was trying to 'pose'. Not possible when my name is on each post. The 'We' means all of us owners of this vehicle. You are pathetic.
Come in Ethiopia shop
The one thing that was a deal breaker for me is safety.
Not clear what you are saying. Safety in the FUV is the same as in a small enclosed EV with air bags, but through different means. This is safer than any motorcycle in existence. Safety is actually a deal *maker* for this design. Lots of old seniors are buying it to get a little taste of the wild side without the high risk of a motorcycle. Harness and roll cage combine to offer great safety without doors. The door option for the FUV does not involve steel beams like you find in car doors.
@@popeyegordon What I meant was, it can’t be as safe as a Tesla Model 3. Which is a compact car. The way drivers are today. It’s a deal breaker for me to have anything below that standard.
@@ferniegutierrez5605 With just 500 sold there is almost no crash data but this is tested and the roll cage is certified. No air bags needed and only a few states are temporarily requiring helmets which actually increase the risk of neck injury. The 6 point harness and cage work together in a different way from passenger cars, resulting in an equally safe vehicle that weighs jyst 1300 pounds. The 4,065 pound Teslas are an abomination - each one has the materials to make three FUVs and the 'full size' could make four. There is no shortage of battery materials if we dump the old ways that cater to car addicted consumers who are more interested in a status symbol. The new fashion status is embodied in the FUV. It's a rock star. I've had two neighbors call me that already.
Lol so dramatic. These feel stable and strong over 70mph. I do regularly. Rain would be fine. Regen is easy to modulate unless you have zero motor control in your pointer finger 🤣 hope you guys had fun. The steering is definitely heavy and power reduced at low current to keep the wheels from spinning with dual motors. If you’re ever down in San Diego I’ll show ya how to really drive em 😜 some are getting to 20k miles.
Point on motor noise. Guys….. c’mon they’re exposed motors. Of course you’ll hear them. Teslas and such have sound deadening materials to cancel it out hahahaha. Think about loud motorcycle versus a car.
Are you scared to leave home? Worst review of anything I’ve ever watched.
Nope, leave the house everyday. I just know a poor quality product
You seem scared. I finally got mine, have 500 miles on it, quality is great and I’m not scared to go over 25mph! 😂
@@brandenflasch you seem to be alone in this "poor quality product" thought. Maybe it's time to adjust your perspective some 😉
@@nhodorek definitely not alone
Probably fun.. but 5 times too expensive for a toy
Not a toy, a car substitute for the typical abuse of 4 passenger cars with empty trunks hauling around one person.
The most beta vehicle on the market
Are these prototypes?
No
14 years of prototypes came up with this production model. 500 delivered as of Jan 2022. The new factory with 50,000 units per year capacity was just openened and is tooling up now.
For the person asking about the Moose Test. I can't find the request for the video - there is none and I get the feeling it wasn't supposed to be released. But see Sandy Munro talking about Arcimoto passing the Moose Test at 32:20 ish here ruclips.net/video/HZ19jzO3_Lo/видео.html
Not sure why they wouldn’t release it 🤷♂️
Are you and Kyle buddies?
Yes
battery is too small for long range have to have another battery for back up or bigger battery i use a solar panel better off for charging on the go .
Long range is wrong on many levels. We have to stop that abuse of personal vehicles. You'd need a 600 watt minimum system in ideal light to just get a third of a charge in one full day. My FUV's battery is too big. My average trip is 6 miles. I wish it had less power, a lower top speed and lighter battery but I bought one anyways. It blows away the e-bike I drove for the last 7 years. That one was solar powered.
Check out the Aptera.
@@artboymoy Aptera is only taking orders. FUV is shipping in 5 states. Apteras don't collect many miles of range in a day with their panels. Under perfect conditions about 20 miles but they love to hype "1000 mile range and solar charging" in the same sentence in their video titles. Getting in and out will be tough and you don't get the ventilation. Only comfortable in northern climates, if they ever do finally ship. Check what service arrangement there is - for Arcimoto they have a mobile service team in place before they take orders to any state. The FUV offers much more utility and fun, hence Fun Utility Vehicle.
17000 you have got to be kidding.I will take the chinese car with heat and AC.For 4000 to 10000 and goes twice as far or more on a charge
And you will spend 5 times as much each year for insurance, take twice as long to charge a bigger battery you don't need unless you always drive with 3 passengers. You get what you pay for. The FUV has heated seats, hand grips and defroster. It cuts the wind chill. You are such a lazy person you couldn't be bothered to post the actual price of $17,900 with a dollar sign. The $17,900 price is in 2022 when the average cost of a new car is $46,000. And no cost for gas or oil changes. Insurance is at the very low motorcycle rate, that alone saves me $800/yr
Americans who buy cheap imported vehicles are disloyal traitors who stab their neighbors in the back by denying us a job. Typical conservative behavior.
That's the longest in n out like I've ever seen. It's really not thatt worth it
Fairly typical in my experience
The exciting sound of the twin motors is my favorite part! I love the fact that I'm getting the joy of a motorcycle with the safety of a car, no emissions and super cheap insurance rates. I know my motor noise can barely be heard by drivers and not heard at all like obnoxious Harleys disturbing the peace. I can't and do not want to rev my motors at stop signs. I am not out to seek attention and try to convice others I am a badass because I am confident in my manhood. No clutch to wear out. No loss of traction on wet roads.
Annoying review.
If the goal here was to convince people to *not* consider any investment in arcimoto. Congrats you succeeded.
I had no goal but to tell viewers how the arcimoto really is.
@@brandenflasch Understood. Though I reccomend watching a few other review videos. Pick up some pointers before moving forward in the review business. Perhaps develop your vocabulary a bit while your at it. This said in the spirit of Constructive criticism.
That girl complains too much!!!
...OVER PRICED STREET-DUNE-BUGGY ..... WAIT TILL IT'S RAINING AND THE WIND FLOWS ALL OVER YOU ...WOW! ....YOU WILL LOOK AND FEEL JUST WONDERFUL WHEN YOU GET TO WERE YOU'RE GOING! ... NOPE! ..I'LL LEAVE THIS THING FOR THE NEWBIES!
...IGNORANT TOXIC TROLL.... WAIT TILL IT BECOMES THE BIGGEST SUCCESS SINCE THE MODEL T AND NOBODY GIVES A SHIT ABOUT GETTING THEIR ELBOWS DAMP IN RAIN.... YESE WE *DO* FEEL ELATED WHEN WE GET WHERE WE'RE GOING.... THANKS TO THE FRESH AIR AND HIGH LEVEL OF SAFETY.... THE EXCITING SOUND OF THE TWIN MOTORS THAT SOUND LIKE JET TURBINES... YEP!... WE'LL LEAVE THIS TO THOSE WHO WANT TO STOP STEALING MORE THAN THEIR FAIR SHARE FROM FUTURE GENERATIONS.... FOR NOW.... SOON PERSONAL CARS WILL BE TAXED SO HEAVILY THE FUV WILL BECOME THE STANDARD PRIMARY CAR FOR PEOPLE....
Could not find a grown up to do this ride review?! Have you seen a Can Am three wheeled motorcycle? Know how much it costs? Stick to cars scarredy cats!
First of all the reason why ATVs were outlawed three wills is because the turning sucked with the two rear wheels in the rear the two front wheels makes it incredibly stable why else would they do that to the Polaris slingshot or the $85,000 T-Rex is amazingly agile it will turn corners Like its nobody’s business it Also helps to lean into the turns
None of that applies to the FUV. It is extremely stable due to its low COG - battery and motors are down at axle level. It does NOT help to lean into turns with wide wheel base trikes, it just feels that way. The FUV harness keeps us stationary and that's fine. The crash cage means it is the safest trike ever made.
two wheels in front or back big diff preppy
1:45 a wild Kyle appears!
Kyle had a great video of a long trip he and his co worker took in one last summer or fall
That trip looked like hell
No one looking 👀 at your insecurities like a 7 yo
Like I said I would love it to be fully enclosed with heater and a.c.due to Michigan weather.🤔🌤🌦🌧🌨🌬🌩❄❄❄❄