Remember to do your surveys when they come out, people. The only reason we got such good changes in Wuwa is because of the discourse between the community and developers.
why are we now realising hoyo games are more predatory, this is not the first time that genshin has done this, if you wanna see this game fixed you have to convince these addicts who will throw money even if the game is doing anything bad.
4:26 no, that is not drama, that's trash talking, or baiting. PGR is harder than Wuwa and Rex has never been baised against west there. Drama is calling someone a pdf cause of "😭😭😭" Drama is calling someone r*cist cause of a bait tweet. Everyone seems to conveniently forget that Rex was accused of being a PDF just cause he did a meme, then you say he has predujice against west
We all know how much gachasmack, pokke and tectone in particular have farmed drama in the past (and others) so i totally see why rexlent or anyone could criticize this "meta" from the CCs but the idea to generalize and create groups of western vs eastern is just cringe (I remember not too long ago for like a whole month gacha smack and Pokke exchanged video reacts so much the both communities in the comments were just like stfu we don't care lol)
It wasn't even rexlent that started eastern vs West. All he did was throw play ful trash talk that west (referring to drama CCs) wouldn't clear. But everyone got butthurt by that
@@Kuro-sensei Not to say no one cared that Rex also said that these holo6 are really easy for a full team and there is no difficulty left to see in these games.
Connor has never been into drama, he just provides guides and great commentaries on gacha. Drama cc's don't even play for enjoying the game, they're just here to farm subs, spend money and attention by wasting our precious time. I really appreciate ccs like connor who aren't into this drama non sense. Before the release of these new gachas we didn't even had any drama non sense, people were just here to enjoy the game. Now I know criticism is necessary for making devs like Hoyo do justice to their games but at some point it has converted from healthy criticism to toxic barrage of unwanted videos. I don't even care how much subs these guys have, they're wasting our time at this point, that's all I can say, it is your life choose carefully on who to follow or give your time to
I kinda wish Wuwu didnt get as big as it is.. wanted it to stay under the radar, so it could avoid all this drama. And I wish Tectone would go back to genshin whee he belongs. Hes part of the reason.
yeah, I'm glad he's leaving arknights, but wuwa already get too big for him to notice, it's basically a farm land, on the other hand I'm glad wuwa get so much love from many people
I am a Tectone fan, but even I can't deny the pattern anymore. I feel like Tectone hinself is not the propagator of the drama, it is those who want to copy him due to his success. Look at Saintontas. Dude was an amazing cc before who made great essay videos. Now he just does livestream and post slop reactions everyday. He even managed to suddenly create drama vs 3 ccs (Vars, Braxophone and Ryuuku Sensei) in just a week. He seem to idolize Tectone's style.
all that being said, it is nice that this discussion is happening more now bc i remember subbing to you for pgr advice and haven’t been getting recommended your videos until all the wuwa 2.0 v genshin 5.3 discussion brought your vids back into my algo. i’ve been re-discovering a lot of cc’s that ive been ghost subbed to, so i get a backlog of content to watch lmao
Ah yes, that whole drama started from lolshinya who never directly have a talk with rexlent and decided to accuse him a pdf base on some words from CapCabinet who has no context about the individual because she also never directly have a talk with him, this sow the seed of prejudice for the "western cc" thing later
I saw the 1 hour video from e-thin (only listened to about 10 mins of it) the guy calls out Rexlent as a PDF multiple times saying he's wanking it to kids. All these CC part of the tectone circle jerk really planned out an all out attack trying to label Rex as a PDF. All because of a little remark about them. E-Thin truly thin skinned.
@@Dee-jd8vc He chatted it with his viewers during the wuwa livestream, around 4:00;00. His thoughts on lolis are just self-deprecation joke similar to the "FBI Open up" meme. He was just shit posting, loli culture was also been in jp otaku culture before it got into the west in which he state that those throwing stones at him should go to a local doujin store in Tokyo then go to the loli section and call for the police to arrest the storekeeper.
It's really funny that Shinya claimed that Rex is an EDP when someone on twitter discovered that Shinya admitted to having a little sister kink on reddit. When that tweet gained attention, Shinya deleted his reddit post. Lmao.
The thing that bothers me about the criticism Genshin gets is that I find it unfounded a lot of times, the recent double banner controversy has been the only legitimate complain I've seen in a while, but most of the time that's not the case, and it's been a constant thing ever since they said they weren't gonna focus on endgame, I mean for an example, extra exploration features have been locked behind characters since the beginning, with Venti, and even tho Natlan Characters have very strong movement options, there always a Saurian near you can poses to have pretty much the same abilities as the characters, and they're situated where you would most likely need or want to use them.
Bro…I recently discovered you and have been enjoying your content. This vid was great…up until the end. I get that it’s kind of a meme or just joking (sometimes) but why throw in the “we play gacha games. How are we morally gonna grand stand when we play these games?”…sighhh smh. I don’t know what it is but why do all (yeah I’m gonna say all because I’m trying but I just can’t find an exception) the CC’s I watch or follow dislike/hate these same gacha games they play and cover.why play these games then? Is it all fake just for likes/views? Of course, it’s 100% fine to criticize the monetization and leave feedback (point of the video, actually) but saying “lol gacha games stupid” is not the feedback/criticism that’s gonna get any changes in motion. Just feels like pointless name calling (even if you say “we”, it still sucks even if you include yourself). Gotta be fair here, this was on line as opposed to other gacha CC’s that drill it into your head that these gacha games we play are bad in general and just stupid little mobile games etc etc. I appreaciate that this is the first time I’ve heard that from this channel (maybe I don’t listen enough, idk) but still like why play these games and make a whole channel mostly focused on these types of games if “lol GaChA gAmEs”?? It’s getting annoying as hell at this point. Hey, anyone that reads this in the comments, can you point me in the direction of some gacha content creators that, you know, LIKE gacha games? Lol. They can say the monetization needs change, but also admit that some of these games are dope as hell and they’re not “lol gacha games, we dumb”
I find Marcomeatball's sentiments about the space in general rather align with mine. To quote his stream: "I wonder to myself why am I not more critical about things, and I think the reality is that I just love video games. To see something like this where I so badly believed in the vision of the creators and wanted it to be the vision that _they_ wanted it to be is a huge win. It's very easy for gacha games to be in their own little corner [in the industry] and to be an ugly stepchild of the AAA gaming experience. There are implicit biases against them obviously for their predatory aspects, but when we talk about the artistic merit, having played many gacha games a lot of these have true artistic value, with stories that are compelling and characters that we are attached to. And people may be jaded or overly critical and say that the reason we get attached to characters is because of the gacha system and that's a ridiculous thought process in my opinion But I find that 2.0 WuWa has established itself as a piece of artistic media that transcends the gacha gaming label. Genshin impact has also done that as well, if we consider the cultural ramifications of the reach that genshin has had. I think the reason why we see burnout in the content creation space, especially among younger creators, is because most people attach themselves to the high and lows so if public opinion isn't good well then you feel like you're a piece of shit. It's an interesting conversation around the philosophical ideas of a job and identity and how we attach ourselves to the work we do. In regards to the opinions of others it really doesn't matter if you're having a good time. Terms like toxic positivity are just traps to make it so that you can't have an opinion. People do it to content creators all the time, they'll try to get you so that you can't say anything because either you respond and you're an asshole or you don't respond and you're an asshole. Your job is to enjoy the video game that you play, and if people are that petty you don't need to involve yourself in that. It's just not worth it. Don't make a game your identity and allow yourself to be put in a position of weakness like that, just don't engage it's just not worth it. I have my preferences, do I really need to sit here and debate which one is better? Why must I? It's such easy bait to get people to have this infighting about nothing. For example you'll never see me shit on Genshin even if I enjoy WuWa. If we treat these games as works of art rather than things to be consumed I think ultimately we'll be happier. We're very much in a consumption culture and we need to separate ourselves from that if possible."
Frankly drama content itself isnt the issue its when someone is being overly vile and disrespectful in their criticism of a game or dev or even the people who love the game. Also if they do it while sprading misinformation that can also be that. Also if the thumbnails , titles, or even content it self is made specifically to anger people to get hate clicks or be clickbait thats an issue. Like its mainly the difference between actual criticism and civil discussion vs making content just to dunk/hate on the competition or farm for hate clicks. Like i often see the gatcha community slowly becoming more and more like console fanboys and honestly its mostly on the western cc side.
So, western CCs complain that, for e.g. WuWa doesn't have fan content, doesn't have content made for fun, and complain that WuWa mostly have DRAMA, comparacing to GI, misinfo wars, etc. content, while this is 90% of the content said CCs are doing for more then 8 month. With all this in mind, when their content, about which western CCs had complains, is called trash, the same CCs are offended. Isn't it idiotic?
A very fair and valid point While I believe some CCs cover these topics with ill intentions I do agree that most times people are overreacting to these things
everything can become content now huh.. as a matter of fact drama farmer is drama farmer.. react video is just nice way of saying it whether you start it or not it indeed a controversial topic being reacted and you rely on it for farming views and making easy content.. that's just fact justification included.. as a matter of fact if you truly did want to just react purely and honestly than do pray tell.. why CC tend to use misleading headline title? why try baiting people? let's be honest here lmao again justification like so people will watch it.. and yes that's one method of drama farming saying ow EOS soon.. or making sarcasm remark or snide or whatever.. people can make all justification but i'm sure deep in their heart they know it so i can't blame when they call western CC being called drama farming because they partially responsible on making the community these way..
than again.. for CC this is work.. it's for their livelihood so i understand they drama farm.. i mean we all prioritize ourselves right.. but let's stop with justification act.. not that i'm saying you all did.. (fyi i didn't watch all these) i mean all western cc made similar react vid like these anyway and i'm not into repeating things all over again for their profit
It's definitely disingenuous to paint all western ccs in a negative light, as if the east wouldn't have people who do the same when they do. However, you have to acknowledge some of the biggest western ccs farm drama(and will openly admit to it too) is a problem by itself. Na, en, jn, cn, they will all have toxic players and ccs. I do think it's fair to point out the difference in where one side clearly farm drama and is always getting themselves in drama more than others. The problem with that being all sides will have people who start and farm drama and it's not like you can say the east doesn't have no drama farmers when you know they would. Culturally speaking, SOME Americans in particular will get triggered over the slightest thing. America has alot of mental illness and stupidity and that will reflect in their gacha ccs. When you have someone like tectone as one of the biggest gacha cc, who will openly admit and farm drama video after video for money, it's not hard to see who may do it more. Again though, the problem being if the west does it more doesn't take away that the east would also have people who would do the same and you can't plead some innocents and say only the west has ignorant people like tectone.
Drama is just something to hit the younger audience, that clearly can't form their own opinion, and need streamers so they can make their mind. The majority of "drama" that happens are not even close to be drama per say, the proof of that is how easily and quick those topics die and they don't add absolutely nothing for any sides. But honestly, who cares. Streamers take advantage of stupid people who often believes they are the most smart people alive, and these same people feed on the stupidity that streamers can deliver to them. It's a vicious cycle that will take years, maybe decades, to change a little bit, like twitch switched from a gaming platform to brain dead people asking streamers about their political opinions. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I just hate how literally any form of discussion in this community has to be some kind of drama or war. People can’t just talk about issues in the games
After watching the Video, I agree with much of your saying. But then in your own word why take the Western CC things so seriously when near the end you said it's okay to joke around. It has the same vibe as an Asian girl cannot drive type of jokes. Kinda confused why this things is so blown out of proportion with everyone wants to get their own commentary in that boils up to what we are doing is not drama and many Hologram clear. As for the attack of Wuwa, I just have feeling from 1.0 to 2.0 that everytime I wanted to celebrate something I just got barraged with write feedback about things to improve. Man, sometimes I just want to thank the dev for implementing changes I need, but the community made it seems like it is nothing and there are bigger Issue and so my thanks was invalid. Like experiencing Asian parent that never said thanks and just demand more each time.
The only reason I brought up the western CC thing is because I was using it as an example of drama farming. I don’t really care personally, I’m not gunna cry about it, but that IS an example of drama farming vs a peice of commentary on the game itself.
@@ConnorsThoughts Thanks for Clarifying Connor, I maybe just thought it is bigger than it is cause that's the only example you brought up. Would like to see more example to compare.
Drama is essentially fighting between communities with no actual discussion Very often Mr Pokke and Tectone get involved in the most nonsense drama with other creators Mr pokke has discussions sometimes but his snide comments leave his audience polarized and people just want old pokke back That's just one example The only other drama and I mean the only one that matters is covering news about the game and what others are saying outside of wuthering waves, however it's too many loud voices with the most terrible takes which often get heated, we seen that with saintontas defending the game from morons Of all the gacha games so far on the market people see much more in wuthering waves as it's not hoyoverse and have that passion and defend it and it's paid off for them considering the devs are competent All the infighting between people over differing opinions or outright bad faith misinterpretations should just stop People need to grow some skin and learn how to make content instead of just putting out slop as well
Ah Genshin, always have drama from several specific demographics. Amidst that drama and subpar QoL, it still a cashcow for mihoyo. In my opinion, You are not true hoyo shill or kurobot if you are not play and like all their game. No one can be true hoyoshill unless you also play GGZ, it peak otaku game from mihoyo.
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Remember to do your surveys when they come out, people. The only reason we got such good changes in Wuwa is because of the discourse between the community and developers.
why are we now realising hoyo games are more predatory, this is not the first time that genshin has done this, if you wanna see this game fixed you have to convince these addicts who will throw money even if the game is doing anything bad.
introducing the Klee incident...
@@RavFromYetti Clueless....
4:26 no, that is not drama, that's trash talking, or baiting. PGR is harder than Wuwa and Rex has never been baised against west there.
Drama is calling someone a pdf cause of "😭😭😭" Drama is calling someone r*cist cause of a bait tweet.
Everyone seems to conveniently forget that Rex was accused of being a PDF just cause he did a meme, then you say he has predujice against west
We all know how much gachasmack, pokke and tectone in particular have farmed drama in the past (and others) so i totally see why rexlent or anyone could criticize this "meta" from the CCs but the idea to generalize and create groups of western vs eastern is just cringe
(I remember not too long ago for like a whole month gacha smack and Pokke exchanged video reacts so much the both communities in the comments were just like stfu we don't care lol)
It wasn't even rexlent that started eastern vs West. All he did was throw play ful trash talk that west (referring to drama CCs) wouldn't clear. But everyone got butthurt by that
@@Kuro-sensei
Not to say no one cared that Rex also said that these holo6 are really easy for a full team and there is no difficulty left to see in these games.
@@Kuro-sensei Rex was not even referring to western but EN CC's in general
Connor has never been into drama, he just provides guides and great commentaries on gacha. Drama cc's don't even play for enjoying the game, they're just here to farm subs, spend money and attention by wasting our precious time. I really appreciate ccs like connor who aren't into this drama non sense. Before the release of these new gachas we didn't even had any drama non sense, people were just here to enjoy the game. Now I know criticism is necessary for making devs like Hoyo do justice to their games but at some point it has converted from healthy criticism to toxic barrage of unwanted videos. I don't even care how much subs these guys have, they're wasting our time at this point, that's all I can say, it is your life choose carefully on who to follow or give your time to
Love this video Connor. Your content has only gotten better over time. :)
this guy is such a drama farmer, he farming drama off a drama discussion
Can we just get back to the days when we played games because we love playing games. I mean I play most of the popular Gacha titles.
I kinda wish Wuwu didnt get as big as it is.. wanted it to stay under the radar, so it could avoid all this drama. And I wish Tectone would go back to genshin whee he belongs. Hes part of the reason.
yeah, I'm glad he's leaving arknights, but wuwa already get too big for him to notice, it's basically a farm land, on the other hand I'm glad wuwa get so much love from many people
@@doubleoz1 Im actually scared those genshin lunatics will bully the devs when they complain unreasonable things in the future.
@@neegamind they already did, The wuwa live chat are infested with genshin vermins
@@doubleoz1Sad to say, Tectone announced that he's returning to Arknights community to play Endfield.
I am a Tectone fan, but even I can't deny the pattern anymore. I feel like Tectone hinself is not the propagator of the drama, it is those who want to copy him due to his success.
Look at Saintontas. Dude was an amazing cc before who made great essay videos. Now he just does livestream and post slop reactions everyday. He even managed to suddenly create drama vs 3 ccs (Vars, Braxophone and Ryuuku Sensei) in just a week. He seem to idolize Tectone's style.
they fight with viewers and farming them by raging them 😭 and talk shit
all that being said, it is nice that this discussion is happening more now bc i remember subbing to you for pgr advice and haven’t been getting recommended your videos until all the wuwa 2.0 v genshin 5.3 discussion brought your vids back into my algo. i’ve been re-discovering a lot of cc’s that ive been ghost subbed to, so i get a backlog of content to watch lmao
Ah yes, that whole drama started from lolshinya who never directly have a talk with rexlent and decided to accuse him a pdf base on some words from CapCabinet who has no context about the individual because she also never directly have a talk with him, this sow the seed of prejudice for the "western cc" thing later
I see this is so much needed context
Iirc, rexlent also not making any content about it while some other made videos or stream it. Cmiiw.
I saw the 1 hour video from e-thin (only listened to about 10 mins of it) the guy calls out Rexlent as a PDF multiple times saying he's wanking it to kids. All these CC part of the tectone circle jerk really planned out an all out attack trying to label Rex as a PDF. All because of a little remark about them. E-Thin truly thin skinned.
@@Dee-jd8vc He chatted it with his viewers during the wuwa livestream, around 4:00;00. His thoughts on lolis are just self-deprecation joke similar to the "FBI Open up" meme. He was just shit posting, loli culture was also been in jp otaku culture before it got into the west in which he state that those throwing stones at him should go to a local doujin store in Tokyo then go to the loli section and call for the police to arrest the storekeeper.
It's really funny that Shinya claimed that Rex is an EDP when someone on twitter discovered that Shinya admitted to having a little sister kink on reddit. When that tweet gained attention, Shinya deleted his reddit post. Lmao.
The thing that bothers me about the criticism Genshin gets is that I find it unfounded a lot of times, the recent double banner controversy has been the only legitimate complain I've seen in a while, but most of the time that's not the case, and it's been a constant thing ever since they said they weren't gonna focus on endgame, I mean for an example, extra exploration features have been locked behind characters since the beginning, with Venti, and even tho Natlan Characters have very strong movement options, there always a Saurian near you can poses to have pretty much the same abilities as the characters, and they're situated where you would most likely need or want to use them.
Bro…I recently discovered you and have been enjoying your content. This vid was great…up until the end. I get that it’s kind of a meme or just joking (sometimes) but why throw in the “we play gacha games. How are we morally gonna grand stand when we play these games?”…sighhh smh.
I don’t know what it is but why do all (yeah I’m gonna say all because I’m trying but I just can’t find an exception) the CC’s I watch or follow dislike/hate these same gacha games they play and cover.why play these games then? Is it all fake just for likes/views? Of course, it’s 100% fine to criticize the monetization and leave feedback (point of the video, actually) but saying “lol gacha games stupid” is not the feedback/criticism that’s gonna get any changes in motion. Just feels like pointless name calling (even if you say “we”, it still sucks even if you include yourself).
Gotta be fair here, this was on line as opposed to other gacha CC’s that drill it into your head that these gacha games we play are bad in general and just stupid little mobile games etc etc. I appreaciate that this is the first time I’ve heard that from this channel (maybe I don’t listen enough, idk) but still like why play these games and make a whole channel mostly focused on these types of games if “lol GaChA gAmEs”??
It’s getting annoying as hell at this point. Hey, anyone that reads this in the comments, can you point me in the direction of some gacha content creators that, you know, LIKE gacha games? Lol. They can say the monetization needs change, but also admit that some of these games are dope as hell and they’re not “lol gacha games, we dumb”
You know you raise some good points here that I think could be addressed well in a video thanks for the idea and watching!
@@ConnorsThoughts Sure, I look forward to it. Whether you destroy me in the video or not, i will def keep an eye out for it lol
I would recommend @agekkcrow, @AzrialVanity, and @TheWayCafe. Just wholesome people who just like playing gacha and interacting with the community :)
I find Marcomeatball's sentiments about the space in general rather align with mine. To quote his stream:
"I wonder to myself why am I not more critical about things, and I think the reality is that I just love video games. To see something like this where I so badly believed in the vision
of the creators and wanted it to be the vision that _they_ wanted it to be is a huge win. It's very easy for gacha games to be in their own little corner [in the industry] and to be an ugly stepchild of the AAA gaming experience. There are implicit biases against them obviously for their predatory aspects, but when we talk about the artistic merit, having played many gacha games a lot of these have true artistic value, with stories that are compelling and characters that we are attached to.
And people may be jaded or overly critical and say that the reason we get attached to characters is because of the gacha system and that's a ridiculous thought process in my opinion
But I find that 2.0 WuWa has established itself as a piece of artistic media that transcends the gacha gaming label. Genshin impact has also done that as well, if we consider the cultural
ramifications of the reach that genshin has had.
I think the reason why we see burnout in the content creation space, especially among younger creators, is because most people attach themselves to the high and lows so if public opinion isn't good well then you feel like you're a piece of shit. It's an interesting conversation around the philosophical ideas of a job and identity and how we attach ourselves to the work we do. In regards to the opinions of others it really doesn't matter if you're having a good time. Terms like toxic positivity are just traps to make it so that you can't have an opinion.
People do it to content creators all the time, they'll try to get you so that you can't say anything because either you respond and you're an asshole or you don't respond and you're an asshole. Your job is to enjoy the video game that you play, and if people are that petty you don't need to involve yourself in that. It's just not worth it. Don't make a game your identity and allow yourself to be put in a position of weakness like that, just don't engage it's just not worth it. I have my preferences, do I really need to sit here and debate which one is better? Why must I?
It's such easy bait to get people to have this infighting about nothing. For example you'll never see me shit on Genshin even if I enjoy WuWa. If we treat these games as works of art rather than things to be consumed I think ultimately we'll be happier. We're very much in a consumption culture and we need to separate ourselves from that if possible."
Frankly drama content itself isnt the issue its when someone is being overly vile and disrespectful in their criticism of a game or dev or even the people who love the game. Also if they do it while sprading misinformation that can also be that. Also if the thumbnails , titles, or even content it self is made specifically to anger people to get hate clicks or be clickbait thats an issue. Like its mainly the difference between actual criticism and civil discussion vs making content just to dunk/hate on the competition or farm for hate clicks. Like i often see the gatcha community slowly becoming more and more like console fanboys and honestly its mostly on the western cc side.
When the world (RUclips) needed him the Most HE'S BACK.
So, western CCs complain that, for e.g. WuWa doesn't have fan content, doesn't have content made for fun, and complain that WuWa mostly have DRAMA, comparacing to GI, misinfo wars, etc. content, while this is 90% of the content said CCs are doing for more then 8 month.
With all this in mind, when their content, about which western CCs had complains, is called trash, the same CCs are offended. Isn't it idiotic?
A very fair and valid point
While I believe some CCs cover these topics with ill intentions I do agree that most times people are overreacting to these things
Your whole take won’t make any sort of dent to only to those that are more convinced.
everything can become content now huh.. as a matter of fact drama farmer is drama farmer.. react video is just nice way of saying it
whether you start it or not it indeed a controversial topic being reacted and you rely on it for farming views and making easy content.. that's just fact
justification included.. as a matter of fact if you truly did want to just react purely and honestly than do pray tell.. why CC tend to use misleading headline title? why try baiting people? let's be honest here lmao
again justification like so people will watch it.. and yes that's one method of drama farming
saying ow EOS soon.. or making sarcasm remark or snide or whatever.. people can make all justification but i'm sure deep in their heart they know it
so i can't blame when they call western CC being called drama farming because they partially responsible on making the community these way..
than again.. for CC this is work.. it's for their livelihood so i understand they drama farm.. i mean we all prioritize ourselves right.. but let's stop with justification act.. not that i'm saying you all did.. (fyi i didn't watch all these) i mean all western cc made similar react vid like these anyway and i'm not into repeating things all over again for their profit
It's definitely disingenuous to paint all western ccs in a negative light, as if the east wouldn't have people who do the same when they do. However, you have to acknowledge some of the biggest western ccs farm drama(and will openly admit to it too) is a problem by itself.
Na, en, jn, cn, they will all have toxic players and ccs. I do think it's fair to point out the difference in where one side clearly farm drama and is always getting themselves in drama more than others. The problem with that being all sides will have people who start and farm drama and it's not like you can say the east doesn't have no drama farmers when you know they would.
Culturally speaking, SOME Americans in particular will get triggered over the slightest thing. America has alot of mental illness and stupidity and that will reflect in their gacha ccs. When you have someone like tectone as one of the biggest gacha cc, who will openly admit and farm drama video after video for money, it's not hard to see who may do it more. Again though, the problem being if the west does it more doesn't take away that the east would also have people who would do the same and you can't plead some innocents and say only the west has ignorant people like tectone.
Drama is just something to hit the younger audience, that clearly can't form their own opinion, and need streamers so they can make their mind.
The majority of "drama" that happens are not even close to be drama per say, the proof of that is how easily and quick those topics die and they don't add absolutely nothing for any sides.
But honestly, who cares. Streamers take advantage of stupid people who often believes they are the most smart people alive, and these same people feed on the stupidity that streamers can deliver to them. It's a vicious cycle that will take years, maybe decades, to change a little bit, like twitch switched from a gaming platform to brain dead people asking streamers about their political opinions. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I just hate how literally any form of discussion in this community has to be some kind of drama or war. People can’t just talk about issues in the games
After watching the Video, I agree with much of your saying. But then in your own word why take the Western CC things so seriously when near the end you said it's okay to joke around. It has the same vibe as an Asian girl cannot drive type of jokes. Kinda confused why this things is so blown out of proportion with everyone wants to get their own commentary in that boils up to what we are doing is not drama and many Hologram clear. As for the attack of Wuwa, I just have feeling from 1.0 to 2.0 that everytime I wanted to celebrate something I just got barraged with write feedback about things to improve. Man, sometimes I just want to thank the dev for implementing changes I need, but the community made it seems like it is nothing and there are bigger Issue and so my thanks was invalid. Like experiencing Asian parent that never said thanks and just demand more each time.
The only reason I brought up the western CC thing is because I was using it as an example of drama farming. I don’t really care personally, I’m not gunna cry about it, but that IS an example of drama farming vs a peice of commentary on the game itself.
@@ConnorsThoughts Thanks for Clarifying Connor, I maybe just thought it is bigger than it is cause that's the only example you brought up. Would like to see more example to compare.
players are so stupid to understand that this kind of constructive feedbacks will help them in the long run if the devs decide to listen to it
Drama is essentially fighting between communities with no actual discussion
Very often Mr Pokke and Tectone get involved in the most nonsense drama with other creators Mr pokke has discussions sometimes but his snide comments leave his audience polarized and people just want old pokke back
That's just one example
The only other drama and I mean the only one that matters is covering news about the game and what others are saying outside of wuthering waves, however it's too many loud voices with the most terrible takes which often get heated, we seen that with saintontas defending the game from morons
Of all the gacha games so far on the market people see much more in wuthering waves as it's not hoyoverse and have that passion and defend it and it's paid off for them considering the devs are competent
All the infighting between people over differing opinions or outright bad faith misinterpretations should just stop
People need to grow some skin and learn how to make content instead of just putting out slop as well
fk the drama, I want Luna under pity pls.
Ah Genshin, always have drama from several specific demographics. Amidst that drama and subpar QoL, it still a cashcow for mihoyo.
In my opinion, You are not true hoyo shill or kurobot if you are not play and like all their game. No one can be true hoyoshill unless you also play GGZ, it peak otaku game from mihoyo.
yea this is all just stupid thanks for reminding me lmao
Ayo that intro
wisconsin mug? based
I got lots of US state mugs! The only thing I really get from Starbucks these days
@ i have almost all 50 “i ❤️ state” shirts
Drama is when I see anyone liking genshin. There'll be drama and there'll be a funeral. They don't call me a d1 crashout for nothing.
I don't care .... I play em all for different reasons non is perfect each has its perks