I've received multiple critiques from Saintontas and his chat so I made a video demonstrating how I play this team. ruclips.net/video/Uk9XWa-82mo/видео.html
"Guys(png blink 3x)........It doesn't matter if I missplayed a little, look at the clear time this team is suck and what he is saying is wrong. " "So this guy is saying its a skill issue huh....okey lets see what we have here -> checking yt videos for confirmation bias -> not that many Wuwa videos -> " Okey so he says its a skill issue while he doesn't even have clears on his channel to show it.. and ooooh boi what is this ( He will see the HSR and ZZZ vids ) who would have thought another hoyoverse enjoyer(png blinks)....guys, isn't this interesting"
zhezhi is used mostly as a sub-dps coordinated attack unit, reso skill buff on her outro (also gives glacio damage buff) mainly paired with Jinshi since she needs coordinated attack and that huge reso skill buff on her nuke using Zhezhi with Changli while it can work it is not exactly optimal. its not the best but far from the worst comp out there.
@@Sirr304she increase skill dmg and ice dmg with he outro and dose alot of dmg she is better mortefi changli most of her dmg is considered skill dmg so
Thats not that bad, but not optimal at least. I would never use such team imho. the reason is knowing that you have 3 intros in rotation. Than lets count: chanli needs 2 intros to fill forte fast enough and not use basics, shorekeeper needs intro in the end to deal damage, zhezhi needs intro to fill the concerto. thats 4 out of 3. removing ine intro from any character will make the rotation slower and less efficient. verdict: swap shorekeeper for verina to improve the team. she doesn't need intro at all for fast concerto. hame no concerns parring zhezhi-chanli tho. chanli's rotation is faster and zhezhis coordinated attacks will be all over the place, but thats not bad
I use that team and I don't need to do basic attacks for her forte stacks, I start with her two E's, then I do the team rotation, intro with Changli and E for the final stack
I mean he's right this team suck balls, yeah it work but what? Would u like ur zhezhi to buff res skill on changli who's damage mainly rely on forte and liberation
Bruh you can't comment on someone else's pronunciation of ZheZhi and then still pronounce it wrongly. It's Mandarin Chinese so if you aren't a speaker I think neither of you should correct the other.
@@EvacGachaGaming This is definitely the correct pronunciation. Thank you for actually bothering to look it up. The EN pronunciation just makes it easier for non-Chinese speakers. Personally, I don't see any issue, since there are lots of games where the character names are localized for different audiences. One I can think of is the Ace Attorney game.
The team isn't "that" bad, it has some decent synergies if you really wanna play changli as a hypercarry. Shorekeeper support, Zhezhi offering off-field damage and skill amplification to Changli. But the team just kinda crumbles apart at other parts, like Changli really not wanting to be played as a hypercarry in the first place, but rather in quickswap. She also can't really make any use of her outro in this team either.
@@Jofator10thats interesting. I never thought of buffing shorekeeper with changli. This proves we never know everything, perspective of others matters especially when they are civil about it, and especially when its about complex things like wuwa's combat
@@an1sXD It's not bad. The dude doesn't know how to play Changli or Zhezhi. Zhezhi (or Shore) is the one you want Basic Attacking and Changli quickswapping all the time. He is doing the opposite. Also... with Zhezhi, you should burst at the beginning of her rotation. And never waste Changli Stacks (Forte), you need those with full buffs for maximum DMG (She is the Carry).
@@navalhabr "it's not bad, you just have to do A,B,C and then make sure D is happening, you also have to do E and then Do F at This specific time, while keeping The factor G in mind, don't do H, I, J and then perform L and then M, then finally finish it off with S and K(haha get it? S and K shorekeeper..? I'm sorry)" after doing all this, the team that's taking up 3 meta characters with 2 characters having 5star/sig weapons can finally function at the same level as f2p calcharo and rover teams. clap clap 👏. Edit: Not just 3 META characters but 3 LIMITED 5STAR META characters... let that sink in.
I have both of them and I will say it is bad... 1) Zezhi works as supporter yes but her buff doesn't exactly work well for Changli. 2) You can't switch a lot too when Changli's meta is consistent swapping or you can't get the highest Changli damage. So Saintone is trying to play Changli correctly but that doesn't work for Zeshi since when you switch Zeshi outro buff will be gone. So he's both good and bad in this case. He's doing well as Changli DPS but horrible as Zeshi doing buff. But that's also just how bad the team is too. The team that would work is Changli x Yinlin. Both will build up outro really fast and consistently switch all the time. Hope RUclips doesn't auto deleted this.
i caught only 2 streams of him thus far and each stream he is flaming hard on someone, either his community, someone vid or both, hes a very very angry man, but based on what he said how he explains it, it sounds legit lol, but his head boils hard when someone gets it wrong.
He did the same with XLY-Changli. In general, he's just bad at Changli, mismanaging stacks on her is criminal and he seems to do it every rotation and still expect good clears. Changli ain't for him but he refuses to acknowledge her strength even tho/bc he cant play her. And somehow it only when it comes to Changli. Then again, the other characters are far easier to play as well. This alongside his confirmation bias and constant crashing out made it unbearable for me to watch
His first rotation on changli is really you could have been able to do 2 forte and 1 ult. So the rotation I do to changli is like this Intro - buffATK - buffATK - rider - skill - buffatk - skill - buffATK - forte - ult - forte - outro Thast basically it triple boom is what I call it (lame right? 🤣) (The buffATK is the passive she does when doing Intro, skill or after her full attack sequence. You know I mean right?)
how do you do second buffAtk? you have only one after intro. full basics combo? thats kind of slow. you shoud try intro from healer to changli for first true sight, swap to sub-dd, then intro again into changli. then two skills and you have fool forte with no basics at all. i also do those two skills at the start instead
I wanted to test out this so called worse team myself because the takes didn't make any sense to me. Even with my Changli Taoqi Baizhi team the timer wasn't going that off i give it a shot to that team myself too. I think Saintontas overreacting to this team for no reason and if you guys need to see this team actually good but not best there is my take: ruclips.net/video/0GAh0pYDOB8/видео.html
just some background on that live someone in the chat wanted Saint to play Changli as a hypercarry (It doesn't work bc of how Cangli's kit is fundamentally designed (Shes only good and useful in quickswap teams))
@@iflgames3245 like I said Changli’s kit is fundamentally designed to not work in hypercarry teams and she is designed specifically for quick swap teams. Like sure you can clear ToA with Changli hypercarry but it’s not fun or efficient
@Crispymantis123 ur opinion is that it's not fun , there's lots ov ppl who would disagree and say otherwise... if it can 3* clear then it's gud/viable, only ppl who want sub 60sec clears cry about "its not optimal" like who cares u don't getting anything more for doing a sub 60sec clear smh yall mf are dented
Everyone hating on Saint right now, just realize this. He is living rent free in your heads. Every single Wuwa video has dozens of comments relating to Saint(even when hes not mentioned). He won and is laughing all the way to the bank with the anount of engagement hes farmed.
I guess they are both farming, forgive both as they plow. It's still a bad look on his side though. Everyone can theorize this team comp is pretty mid. Even so a good guidemaker presents how much it sucks in comparison. Or displays their fullest potential just as he said on the podcasts. Hell any of the "competitive" wuwa player channels would take it as a challenge and maximize out where he can.
Watched this whole video. Conclusion: That team indeed succ ballz. Got it. fr tho, If you have to put THAT much effort on a team That's taking THREE limited 5star meta characters just to BARELY function at the same level as my f2p calcharo/rover teams(with 4star weapons btw) then the team just succ doesn't it? Can it clear ToA? Yea obviously, it's 3 limited 5star meta characters... duh. Is the team good tho? hell no. You can still use the team if you want tho, use whatever you want, no one cares. It may not be that bad but don't say its good either cuz it's just not.
Not directed at you specifically but I don't get why anyone would delay shorekeepers ult. She gets max concerto gauge in 4 seconds. And if you are using Sanhua that's another 3 seconds. Your hyper carry will have 23 seconds to do thier damage. Most hyper carries arent even onfield for that long in one rotation. Jiyan ult lasts 10 seconds for example. I think people are not reading that ult gives a shit ton of concerto and skill and echo gives back a shit ton of energy. Like, that's fundamentals lol. If your team comp can clear ToA then it's not a bad team. There is no other harder gamemode so there really is no point in sweating over it any further. I think Saint watching that one no-life bilibili quickswap player RUINED him. Since his changli-ZZ-SK team is very strong, that really means it's even more of a skill issue lmao
confused mine i are not build as well as his and i dont sweat even remotely as much as he did there still clear it tho i have to admit its pretty close.
Just gonna say one thing, if the roles were reversed and he was reacting to your gameplay, he'd show you how it's done as well with video proof, not just yapping
Just use encore or Xiangli Yao with support character or Any character that benefits from Quickswaps in general. Ffs everyone wanna create unnecessary drama for views.
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I've received multiple critiques from Saintontas and his chat so I made a video demonstrating how I play this team.
ruclips.net/video/Uk9XWa-82mo/видео.html
Oh boi if Saintontas find this he will react to it for 8 hours straight. You are not allowed to correct him he is always right, remember that 🤣
"Guys(png blink 3x)........It doesn't matter if I missplayed a little, look at the clear time this team is suck and what he is saying is wrong. "
"So this guy is saying its a skill issue huh....okey lets see what we have here -> checking yt videos for confirmation bias -> not that many Wuwa videos -> " Okey so he says its a skill issue while he doesn't even have clears on his channel to show it.. and ooooh boi what is this ( He will see the HSR and ZZZ vids ) who would have thought another hoyoverse enjoyer(png blinks)....guys, isn't this interesting"
@@fm09723sir no cooking allowed here
@@fm09723 XDDDDDDDD
@@fm09723bruh that's Totally opposite of what he did tho 😭, he appreciated this guy for proving him wrong
@@fm09723 I can fucking hear his voice saying this shit
Let's be real, this team is not as good as the other teams
Yup but it is not that bad
True, but Saintontas reacted like you’re committing a war crime if you play that team.
It really sucks balls
But with those stats it's very very doable. I have worst stats and can clear just fine. Litterally skill issue.
Decent/playable and suck balls is not the same
Lets be real you are saint subscriber 😂
I had to hide saintontas from my recommendations, he changed not for the better, that or he was hiding his toxicity well.
I feel like I learned about a comp I'll never play... (I don't plan on getting Zhezhi)
Before making this video, I've never played this comp (Changli, Zhezhi, and Shorekeeper).
Have people said tht comp is good? I feel like tht team doesnt make sense. tho i dont have tht ice girl so idk what she does.@EvacGachaGaming
zhezhi is used mostly as a sub-dps coordinated attack unit, reso skill buff on her outro (also gives glacio damage buff) mainly paired with Jinshi since she needs coordinated attack and that huge reso skill buff on her nuke
using Zhezhi with Changli while it can work it is not exactly optimal. its not the best but far from the worst comp out there.
@@Sirr304she increase skill dmg and ice dmg with he outro and dose alot of dmg she is better mortefi
changli most of her dmg is considered skill dmg so
Thats not that bad, but not optimal at least. I would never use such team imho.
the reason is knowing that you have 3 intros in rotation. Than lets count: chanli needs 2 intros to fill forte fast enough and not use basics, shorekeeper needs intro in the end to deal damage, zhezhi needs intro to fill the concerto. thats 4 out of 3.
removing ine intro from any character will make the rotation slower and less efficient.
verdict: swap shorekeeper for verina to improve the team. she doesn't need intro at all for fast concerto.
hame no concerns parring zhezhi-chanli tho. chanli's rotation is faster and zhezhis coordinated attacks will be all over the place, but thats not bad
I use that team and I don't need to do basic attacks for her forte stacks, I start with her two E's, then I do the team rotation, intro with Changli and E for the final stack
I am gonna try this TOA, great suggestion
I mean he's right this team suck balls, yeah it work but what? Would u like ur zhezhi to buff res skill on changli who's damage mainly rely on forte and liberation
No offense on anyone tho, just pointing out
Majority of her damage is skill damage. Her Forte is Skill DMG, so the only thing that's not is her non-Forte Basic Attacks and her Liberation.
There’s no “forte” damage, her forte is considered skill so most of her damage is skill then Liberation is 2nd
Changli's main damage type for the most part is considered "skill damage"
@@Zer0Perplexityso u mean forte is also skill type, my apologies, for mistaken it for individual type
Bruh you can't comment on someone else's pronunciation of ZheZhi and then still pronounce it wrongly. It's Mandarin Chinese so if you aren't a speaker I think neither of you should correct the other.
ruclips.net/video/MQ_MRAPst4U/видео.html&ab_channel=HowToSay
@@EvacGachaGaming This is definitely the correct pronunciation. Thank you for actually bothering to look it up. The EN pronunciation just makes it easier for non-Chinese speakers. Personally, I don't see any issue, since there are lots of games where the character names are localized for different audiences. One I can think of is the Ace Attorney game.
The team isn't "that" bad, it has some decent synergies if you really wanna play changli as a hypercarry. Shorekeeper support, Zhezhi offering off-field damage and skill amplification to Changli.
But the team just kinda crumbles apart at other parts, like Changli really not wanting to be played as a hypercarry in the first place, but rather in quickswap. She also can't really make any use of her outro in this team either.
Technically in that team you buff Shorekeeper's special intro with Changli's outro and it deals decent dmg... In my case she deals 18k per hit
@@Jofator10thats interesting. I never thought of buffing shorekeeper with changli. This proves we never know everything, perspective of others matters especially when they are civil about it, and especially when its about complex things like wuwa's combat
No matter how bad the guy played, changli zhezhi shorekeper is a doghsit comp lmao
how is it bad genuinely asking
is changli not enough as a hyper carry? cus i saw some people soloing towers with her
@@an1sXD It's not bad. The dude doesn't know how to play Changli or Zhezhi.
Zhezhi (or Shore) is the one you want Basic Attacking and Changli quickswapping all the time.
He is doing the opposite.
Also... with Zhezhi, you should burst at the beginning of her rotation.
And never waste Changli Stacks (Forte), you need those with full buffs for maximum DMG (She is the Carry).
I'll test this comp and then I'll come back to say if its dogshit or not.
@@navalhabr "it's not bad, you just have to do A,B,C and then make sure D is happening, you also have to do E and then Do F at This specific time, while keeping The factor G in mind, don't do H, I, J and then perform L and then M, then finally finish it off with S and K(haha get it? S and K shorekeeper..? I'm sorry)" after doing all this, the team that's taking up 3 meta characters with 2 characters having 5star/sig weapons can finally function at the same level as f2p calcharo and rover teams. clap clap 👏.
Edit: Not just 3 META characters but 3 LIMITED 5STAR META characters... let that sink in.
@@avi8183 Your joke is exposing how bad you are at this game. This is actually very funny.
I can say for sure, that you never cleared ToA.
I have both of them and I will say it is bad...
1) Zezhi works as supporter yes but her buff doesn't exactly work well for Changli.
2) You can't switch a lot too when Changli's meta is consistent swapping or you can't get the highest Changli damage.
So Saintone is trying to play Changli correctly but that doesn't work for Zeshi since when you switch Zeshi outro buff will be gone.
So he's both good and bad in this case. He's doing well as Changli DPS but horrible as Zeshi doing buff.
But that's also just how bad the team is too.
The team that would work is Changli x Yinlin.
Both will build up outro really fast and consistently switch all the time.
Hope RUclips doesn't auto deleted this.
i caught only 2 streams of him thus far and each stream he is flaming hard on someone, either his community, someone vid or both, hes a very very angry man, but based on what he said how he explains it, it sounds legit lol, but his head boils hard when someone gets it wrong.
Lmao man was stressed and I can understand how this can throw off someone from his vids, but it seems like he is controling himself more now
Nahh bro you are OBJECTIVELY wrong
Thats diabolical
He did the same with XLY-Changli. In general, he's just bad at Changli, mismanaging stacks on her is criminal and he seems to do it every rotation and still expect good clears. Changli ain't for him but he refuses to acknowledge her strength even tho/bc he cant play her. And somehow it only when it comes to Changli. Then again, the other characters are far easier to play as well.
This alongside his confirmation bias and constant crashing out made it unbearable for me to watch
Woah I learnt some new stuffs tonight, i always used the fallacy before storekeeper ult lol, learnt something
I love wuwa beef lord 😂
His first rotation on changli is really you could have been able to do 2 forte and 1 ult.
So the rotation I do to changli is like this
Intro - buffATK - buffATK - rider - skill - buffatk - skill - buffATK - forte - ult - forte - outro
Thast basically it triple boom is what I call it (lame right? 🤣)
(The buffATK is the passive she does when doing Intro, skill or after her full attack sequence. You know I mean right?)
how do you do second buffAtk? you have only one after intro.
full basics combo? thats kind of slow.
you shoud try intro from healer to changli for first true sight, swap to sub-dd, then intro again into changli. then two skills and you have fool forte with no basics at all.
i also do those two skills at the start instead
Changli expose people with skill issue cuz hand multiplier lol
I wanted to test out this so called worse team myself because the takes didn't make any sense to me. Even with my Changli Taoqi Baizhi team the timer wasn't going that off i give it a shot to that team myself too. I think Saintontas overreacting to this team for no reason and if you guys need to see this team actually good but not best there is my take: ruclips.net/video/0GAh0pYDOB8/видео.html
i think he said Zhezhi the right way
Is that Jack in the box in the thumbnail?
Yes
just some background on that live someone in the chat wanted Saint to play Changli as a hypercarry (It doesn't work bc of how Cangli's kit is fundamentally designed (Shes only good and useful in quickswap teams))
But you can clear ToA with her regardless Saint is just mechanically bad and is whinning.
@@iflgames3245 like I said Changli’s kit is fundamentally designed to not work in hypercarry teams and she is designed specifically for quick swap teams. Like sure you can clear ToA with Changli hypercarry but it’s not fun or efficient
@@Crispymantis123 it is fun to clear with no hypercarry as WuWa content is easy especially
ToA.
@Crispymantis123 ur opinion is that it's not fun , there's lots ov ppl who would disagree and say otherwise... if it can 3* clear then it's gud/viable, only ppl who want sub 60sec clears cry about "its not optimal" like who cares u don't getting anything more for doing a sub 60sec clear smh yall mf are dented
@@Crispymantis123 I think it can be fun for some people but you're right about the efficiency part
Changli plays with Reso Skill but not necessarily the most optimal for her main damage output if you're on S0.
Everyone hating on Saint right now, just realize this. He is living rent free in your heads.
Every single Wuwa video has dozens of comments relating to Saint(even when hes not mentioned). He won and is laughing all the way to the bank with the anount of engagement hes farmed.
I guess they are both farming, forgive both as they plow.
It's still a bad look on his side though. Everyone can theorize this team comp is pretty mid. Even so a good guidemaker presents how much it sucks in comparison. Or displays their fullest potential just as he said on the podcasts. Hell any of the "competitive" wuwa player channels would take it as a challenge and maximize out where he can.
Is it hate or valid criticism for his sudden change towards the toxicity? Not all PR is good PR.
@@dailykappa5959 I mean, its valid for you if you don't like the content, but literally no one is forcing you to watch it.
The way this is my 2nd accounts’ team comp
Watched this whole video.
Conclusion: That team indeed succ ballz. Got it.
fr tho, If you have to put THAT much effort on a team That's taking THREE limited 5star meta characters just to BARELY function at the same level as my f2p calcharo/rover teams(with 4star weapons btw) then the team just succ doesn't it? Can it clear ToA? Yea obviously, it's 3 limited 5star meta characters... duh. Is the team good tho? hell no. You can still use the team if you want tho, use whatever you want, no one cares. It may not be that bad but don't say its good either cuz it's just not.
Not directed at you specifically but I don't get why anyone would delay shorekeepers ult. She gets max concerto gauge in 4 seconds. And if you are using Sanhua that's another 3 seconds. Your hyper carry will have 23 seconds to do thier damage. Most hyper carries arent even onfield for that long in one rotation. Jiyan ult lasts 10 seconds for example.
I think people are not reading that ult gives a shit ton of concerto and skill and echo gives back a shit ton of energy. Like, that's fundamentals lol.
If your team comp can clear ToA then it's not a bad team. There is no other harder gamemode so there really is no point in sweating over it any further.
I think Saint watching that one no-life bilibili quickswap player RUINED him. Since his changli-ZZ-SK team is very strong, that really means it's even more of a skill issue lmao
confused mine i are not build as well as his and i dont sweat even remotely as much as he did there still clear it tho i have to admit its pretty close.
WANT NUKER TEAM?JINSHI,CAMELLYA and CHANGLI or XIANGLI YAO
Just gonna say one thing, if the roles were reversed and he was reacting to your gameplay, he'd show you how it's done as well with video proof, not just yapping
ruclips.net/video/Uk9XWa-82mo/видео.html
Here you go.
I mean, besides like the glaring issues you mentioned, I think his gameplay in general is just so scuffed, borderline button mashing…
Just use encore or Xiangli Yao with support character or Any character that benefits from Quickswaps in general.
Ffs everyone wanna create unnecessary drama for views.
Hide this vid from saint or he will make a separate video correcting his rotation 😅
holy backseating 😭
this is a joke dont attack me
Saint just tilts easily lol. His stuff is unbearable nowadays. His chat is awful too
he has a point, do you use that team though?be honest
Like you use the team 😂
@codednan7632 I don't own zhezi, but I am correct that he had a tier 0 crash out over basically nothing lmao
17:55 Lmao
I've been dropping in on his stream every now and then lately, and I've yet to see him actually playing. He is jsut a drama youtuber
He plays at the end of the stream
He clears ToA pretty regularly on stream. Hes also a huge jiyan simp and hates Jinshi with a passion.
It’s bad